Just bought pic related. What am I in for?

An actually decent game

better than d3

>>382334548
lol

>>382333642
Runs like trash, looks like ten year old garbage but is mechanically very deep if you have fun with that sort of thing.

Diablo 3: Autism Edition

>>382333642
Boredom: The Game

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>>382334789
every HnS is basically better than d3

>>382333642
A surprisingly fun game.

>>382335024
D3 is the best HnS, but the worst loot grinder.

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>>382335147
>best HnS
>but loot grind isn't good

>HnS
I thought they were called ARPGs?
Both terms are shit desu, can't we just call them Diablovanias?

>>382335270
D3 is literally just HnS, there isn't much to the gear and you just grind paragon levels for power.

needs a season mode

>>382335709
>games as a service cancer
No thanks.
I'll stick with my static single player content, at least that way I know I can get the same experience even if I play it 10 years from now.

One of my biggest purchase regrets. It's so god damned boring and the classes are ass. I'll be glad when someone actually introduces something new and good to this genre.

>>382335908
what?
I meant a seasonal mode like diablo/PoE with unique legendaries and new items

>>382336403
the further away an ARPG is from PoE, the better.

>>382336512
that's true but it'd give people a reason to replay GD

>>382336681
Yea, I can agree with that. I hope the GD expansion helps with replay value.

Grim Dawn is a fun game.

If I want to run a phantasmal blades setup with the conversion to vitality damage, do I max piercing and then vitality so the 75% converted to vitality means more, or do I just focus on boosting vitality only?

Also, what weapons are best for vitality builds? Scepter ands and daggers? Are guns viable?

>>382336019
this
you can't even tell what some abilities do because the descriptions are so fucking terrible

A boring ugly shit coded game that has no purpose and offers nothi v new or interesring.

>>382337113
I think one of the biggest issues is that the multi-classing gimmick doesn't actually produce interesting results. It's just, "Neat, now I've got a red AoE ability and a blue AoE abilitiy". Ontop of that the actual gameplay is the isometric equivalent of "Left-trigger, right-trigger, repeat".

>>382334860
>looks like ten year old garbage
Literally What? Game looks great for an arpg. Stop trying to whine about shit you stupid nigger.

>>382338004
Yeah, I guess something cooler would've been if you could combine abilities for interesting results, similar to how Div:OS allows you to ignite oil, or electrify that steam cloud, etc

>>382333642
It's the only game in its genre to surpass Diablo 2.

Grim Dawn is Path of Exile except single player and with a shittier skill system and just slightly better 'gamefeel'

>>382333642
>What am I in for?
Rerolling.

A lot.

>>382338181
This is literally what devotions do.

>>382335427
Diablo 3 is the worst mid/high budget APRG/HnS ever.

>>382333642
I dropped this as soon as I noticed you could rotate camera. Knowing I'd have to be spinning that shit every second to look under every last thing made me realize the devs had no idea what they were doing.

>>382338310
except that's not true at all
I like devotion skills, but

>add devotion skill to other skill
>both effects still happen and are independent of one another

vs

>two skills combine to produce unique effect that each piece can't do on its own

its not the same man

>>382338510
>Knowing I'd have to be spinning that shit every second

what? You don't have to touch the camera at all

there are plenty of valid criticisms, but this isn't one of them

>>382335416
their been called hns since d2 at least. Some anon claims it was adopted from dnd where a hns campaign is one with a large focus on fighting

>>382338510
What? You barely need to move the camera. Sometimes I even forget you can move it.

How long do steam refunds take on average? I can't believe I bought this garbage, I wonder if I'll be able to buy a real non shit RPG before the sale ends.

>>382338578
It doesn't produce a completely new spell, but considering all factors like trigger conditions, damage types and amplification, and how spell cooldowns influence crits you can actually create some pretty wild synergies.

Fun for the first run but I can't bother to play it again, leveling is so goddamn slow and the loot drops aren't really interesting, for me it's just a one character/class game.

Got it on this sale and only yersterday I played this game for 7 hours straight. I'm having a blast with it. It's totally worth it if you like games like Diablo.

>>382336019
>>382335005
>>382337113
How about you faggots turn the "Veteran" difficult mode on? I did that and the game became far more challenging and intense.

>>382338510
I never knew you could rotate it.

>>382338192
bait

>>382338875
just because a game is more challenging does not make it more intense, it's LITERALLY just "more health and damage mode" like every other difficulty slider in every other game

>>382338875
what the fuck does ability description text have to do with veteran mode, you knobhead?
I do run veteran mode by the way

>>382338206
have you fucking played video games before? its just a better titan quest.

>>382333642
A good romp. Got 300+ hours in it. Love the devotion system, character building is pretty good too. Can be pretty unforgiving in the viable build department, but modding can fix that.

>>382338864
This, and you can't respec your class on your already leveled character, which for a game like this, is insanely stupid.

Wut? What does HnS mean? Also Diablo 3 is best just because couch multiplayer on xbone with my girlfriend

>>382339046
Titan Quest had better enemies

>>382339092
You can respec every skill and devotion point. The only thing you can't respec are mastery points. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>382339224
I literally said you can't respec your classes, which means exactly what it means. If you pick a shit combo you're stuck with it. Not that it matters really, since every build in this boring game plays more or less the same way with boring combat.

>>382334860
>Runs like trash
Maybe on your potato "gaming" laptop

a meme game /v/ likes to pretend is good just because they can't admit Diablo 3 is better

>>382339341
What game allows you to reselect your class?

And there are no shit classes unless you're talking purely about ultimate, which requires min maxing far beyond class selection.

>>382339185
>don't know the meaning of HnS
>plays a HnS on a console
>has a girlfriend (probably a trap)

This is neo-/v/

should I play this, D3 or PoE?

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>>382339185
Hack n slash you fucking child

>>382339046
Titan Quest was way better because it had more interesting environments. Grim Dawn plays a bit better but every single level is just brown and grey.

The only good build is a pet build because the rest requires to much clicking.

>>382339570
Except that the way Grim Yawn is designed, you need to be lvl 50 at the very minimum to start "enjoying" your class, which getting to and above is so mind numbingly boring.

In D3 you can get rushed, in D2 you can get rushed, or alternatively play the game, because it's a great and fun game, in PoE you can do speedruns or get help or whatever.

In this game you're stuck doing the same exact shit boring quest line over and over and over and over and over again on all difficulties.

>>382339650
I liked this one the most
D3 is fun on the couch with a friend, but so is everything else you do on couches with friends
PoE is garbage

>>382339759
Grim Dawn is just the best Diablo clone. Great atmosphere and the best HnS soundtrack right after Diablo 2.

>>382339895
Except it plays nothing like Diablo and the itemization especially is utter trash.

>>382339834
I agree, classes suck before 50. First time was enjoyable and new, but after that I hust downloades a blank level 50 character

>>382339834
Actually leveling in Grim Dawn is faster than all of those because you can heavily spec into early game skills for cheap or just rely on component abilities like fireball to plow through normal difficulty. You can believe whatever you want though.

>>382339995
Yeah, this game is only worth a pirate and a playthrough on the first difficulty, and if you're that into it somehow, you can download characters to fuck around with for a couple of days before getting bored and moving onto a real game.

>>382340079
Actually you're just plain wrong, and have clearly never ever played D2 or D3 to know how fast leveling is. I don't know about PoE, but I'm 100% sure you can get mad help, especially considering Shit Yawn basically has no multiplayer.

This GD shill samefagging is so pathetic.

>>382340206
I've played all four of these games and I'm absolutely correct.

a diablo clone that for whatever reason goes for contradictory design decisions inspired by cRPGs like quests with fuck ton of dialogue and no quest markers in giant ass maps that are annoying at best to explore.

>>382340385
Clearly you haven't, because leveling to 70 in D3 for example takes 10 minutes. Nice try desperate shill.

>>382333642
If you played and enjoyed D2, you'll feel quite familiar with the game right away. If you come from D3 you may feel overwhelemd by the skill system. It's worth getting into imo, especially for it's price and no free2pay bullshit.

>What am I in for.

Well jeez you dolt, did you ever think before asking such a question? Why would you go to the bother of getting the fucking game, downloading it, setting it up, taking a picture of the screen, making a thread on /v/, without even knowing just a smidge of information about the fucking game? Did it ever occur to you, during any of those steps, to either google it, go on wikipedia, go on youtube, go on gamefaqs, or even something like /v/ BEFORE YOU MADE THIS THREAD and seeing people talking about the game? Surely you must have had a thought akin to this at least once during this entire fucking process, and, if so, why the fuck did you make this useless fucking thread in the first place if that's what you were wondering? This information is already fucking available without you making another retarded fucking thread on this dumpster of a board, adding to the disgusting shitheap, you stupid mongoloid. Do some fucking basic research in the future about the fucking game you already have before making another stupid, earth shatteringly stupid fucking topic.

>>382340502
Except the game is f2p, because it's not worth buying and you can just pirate it.

>>382340620
Why is it not worth buying? I enjoyed it and I don't mind giving the developer some money.

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I played a bit of torchlight II and didn't really "get" it. I thought it felt kinda boring. My first experience to this kind of game.

Would I like Grim Dawn, or is the genre just not for me?

Yes I know i've posted this before but I closed the thread and couldn't find it

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>>382336019
As it stands now Titan Quest was the last genuinely good game to hit the genre.

>>382340763
Well to be fair I bought it on sale last year, and I technically don't regret the 30 or so hours I put into it, but the game overall is really boring and dull, and doesn't offer anything new, also multiplayer doesn't exist basically.

Unless you don't care about money, you shouldn't be buying this at all. Pirating it is way more than enough to experience what little the game offers.

>>382340889
GD is more boring than TL, so there's your answer. You should play D2, and maybe PoE for the real arpg experience.

>>382340889
Grim dawn is a complex but fun game, it takes some time to get used to it. But it is very fun if you enjoy making different builds and the whole grinding concept. I wasn't that much into the genre and got around 80 hours of solid use out of it.

>>382341116
How exactly is that game more boring or dull than similar games tho? I've played D1-3, path of exile and torch light and GD is my second favorite so far right after D2.

>>382340938
What aspect of Titan Quest does Grim Dawn not improve on?

>>382341401
Pretty much everything. Setting was better, builds were better, art was better, level design was better.

I won't say Grim Dawn is a bad game but its just another game in the genre it's not a particular high point. Same with Path of Exile

>>382340889
I think Torchlight 2 is the worst game of the genre.

>>382333642
Fun

>>382341186
There's nothing complex about the game, except the constellation system to some extent, but everyone just googles a guide for that anyways and copies it, vast majority of builds also play exactly the same, the questing is extremely boring, and the game world is brown and shitty.

>>382341321
>shit quest line that you're forced to do over and over again
>shit itemization system, nothing feels rewarding at all
>ugly and boring brown and grey world
>most classes and builds play exactly the same, nothing is really cool and unique like in D2
>game is coded and runs like ass

Hipsters just can't admit that PoE, and D3, no matter how shit of a diablo game is, are still both way better games than this.

>>382341565
I can agree with a lot of those points but I found Titan Quest's builds to be incredibly restrictive due to how many skills were just borderline useless or required too much investment to actually be useful. There were also a handful of class combinations that also just didn't function very well due to how their skills interacted.

GD has those problems too, but I feel Titan Quest had a lot more of them.

>people still replying to the OP with "new" good opinions about the game
>poster count not going up

This alone makes me not want to play the game.

>>382341683
come on dude
PoE is complete trash
dont fucking go there.

>>382341852

PoE is by far the best game in the genre

>>382341683
>ugly brown and grey world
>tells people to go play Path of Exile

>>382341828
As opposed to Grim Yawn, where all you do is pump points into passives, and your playstyle consists of one on hit proc ability, one single target, one aoe, and one defensive ability, and possibly pets if you opted to get them.

How fun.

>>382341852
>>382341978
The reason I don't play PoE is because of the ugly brown and grey world, but you know what? It's still miles better than GD, that looks like utter fucking vomit. PoE also gets a lot of patches and updates all the damn time, and as far as I know you can unlock cosmetics and shit to make your dude not look like a caveman, whereas in GD the best sets and weapons look like fucking asshole.

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>>382341905

>>382341986
Why would you use on hit and a single target spell?

>>382342149
>unlock
pay*

>>382338510
You don't need to rotate the camera at any moment in the game

>>382342260
Because that's how builds in this game work? Are you saying the good builds have even less options?

>>382339834
>spend everything on mastery
>have high-tier skills just before reaching Burrwich
You're just retarded.

>>382342456
>the game gets boring as soon as you reach Burrwich

Good argument.

>>382342269
You can unlock free cosmetics from legaue achievements or whatever they're called. Also I jsut checked, and PoE has 4 times the players of GD, while keeping their core, while GD isn't able to keep even half of their core.

>>382342418
You wouldn't create a character invested in both weapon attacks and an offensive spell in any game. Do you know how this genre works or do you just follow guides.

>>382342771
Except that's the main thing GD advertises, being able to do builds that combine two completely different archetypes. And don't lump GD with the genre, because it does a lot of things differently that ruin the whole thing.

>>382342771
PoEfags don't have imagination. All they can do is follow guides.

>>382342952
It's okay to admit you're retarded, we're anonymous no one will judge you.

>>382333642
You're in for a worse version of Titan Quest.

>>382343038
>All they can do is follow guides.

This is pure cancer.

>>382333642
A disappointing game but enjoyable time if you're into HnS a lot.
The game got boring after a while for me and the aesthetic was buttugly. Not to mention character models were Neverwinter Nights tier

>>382343038
>tfw like PoE more than GD
>tfw never used a guide

>>382333642
You got meme'd by /v/. It's not so great as made out to be.

It's by no means bad but it feels clunky and the abilities are pretty boring.

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>>382333642
>have an idea for a cool build
>spend hours on calculators optimizing everything
>finally have a fully fleshed build
>create a character and start levelling
>around level 10, have an idea for another build
>spend hours on calculators...
I have 30 low level characters and I don't even remember what most of them are supposed to be. Please send help.

>>382343038
You're retarded, there's so much variation between builds in PoE. You say they don't have imagination, well then how is it there's hundreds upon hundreds of different build guides there in the first place?

>>382343165
TQ is slow as fuck and boring as can be

I'd rather fuck than play that stupid game. https://youtu.be/SaxFyrw5JhM

>>382343561
>TQ is slow as fuck
The aniversary edition has additional speed settings. The fastest is arguably even too fast.

>>382333642
Pointless Grinding: The (not rpg) Game

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>>382343561
>stack life
>spam FotM skill
>alt-f4 .ahk macro
hurr so imaginative

>>382343474
>Working on a build
>Get a legendary
>"Oh. This could make for a nice build"
>Start new one, find another legendary
>Repeat

It never ends, out of like 12 characters I only have 2 that beat ultimate

So many people in this thread downright hate this game, lol
it's good as fuck op, and the multiplayer is fun too. You will get bored of it and eventually comeback

>>382343561
There's only so many guides because they keep constantly rebalancing shit. The problem with PoE is that rather than even classes, there's usually only a handful of skills at any given time that are clearly better than any other option. It makes the game feel very shallow and completely homogenized.

You can make a lot of valid criticisms of Grim Dawn but all the classes have wildly different abilities, which is what I enjoy most about it.

>>382343127
Not an argument.

>>382341683
PoE is a lot more guide based than GD, in GD you can pretty much run whatever you want as long as you stick to a certain theme.
im with>>382341978
PoE is one hell of a lot uglier, and it lacks more personality than any other hack/slash i have ever played.
>nothing rewarding at all
like in PoE and D3 right?

How about you make some points that aren't also an issue in the games you are praising

>>382343952
>>382343474
>making calculations and "elaborate" builds for a game that has no end game, isn't competitive, or have any sort of leaderboards or anything, that would require you to minmax

I guess it's fun to see if you'll kill an elite mob in 3 swings, or 4 swings.

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>>382341905
if you like looking up guides and following a nerf/buff meta that should only be in competitive gaming and spending 7 dollars on a skill skin ye

>>382344547
First of all, I'm not praising neither PoE nor D3, illiterate GDbaby. It's just funny how both of those games no matter what are 10 times better than Grim Yawn.

>PoE is one hell of a lot uglier, and it lacks more personality than any other hack/slash i have ever played

For you to say this while playing the single most ugliest RPG game ever made is mind boggling.

>PoE is a lot more guide based than GD, in GD you can pretty much run whatever you want as long as you stick to a certain theme.

PoE has a reason to be more guide based, simply because it's way more complicated and has some competitive aspects to it. Yes in GD you can pretty much fuck around doing whatever, because the game is casual and boring, and lacks depth. Thanks for agreeing.

>>382344632
>stop liking what I don't like

it's an ok game to keep you busy until Diablo 2 HD comes out and everyone flocks to that

>>382344897
I didn't tell you to stop, you're free to eat shit as much as you want. I'm just expressing my right to free speech.

>>382344879
Whatever grim dawn may be, casual does not even begin to describe it. I dont think you know what that word means anymore.

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>>382344879
>PoE is "competitive and for hardcore gamers, like myself"
ok i still think GD is more fun
>GD is uglier u are wrong reeeee
ok master as long as you dont get any more upset
>you simply dont understand poe's bad mechanics that change every month! y-you just don't know enuff about it!
ever heard of over complicating things sissyboy?

>>382344879
So you do follow guides.

>>382333642
What content does this game even have for 2 other difficulties

Decent D2 clone. I did Witch Hunter bleed stacking and put Huntress Renr on Curse of Frailty. Hilarious! I like stacking two dozen effects that are going off simultaneously from passives, it's fun.

Do one playthrough normally to explore and listen to dialogue and shit.

Then look at guides and practice speed running, mass quests give the best exp.

>>382345087
>running the same thing over and over again
>itemization so boring, shitty and dull, you use whatever that has 1-2 stats you need, the rest being useless
>game so easy it doesn't really matter what build you use, because all you do is pump points into passives

It's the epitome of casual.

>>382345157
>ever heard of over complicating things

Even the GD shills admit it's casual and simple.

>>382345160
I never said I didn't, and I also don't play PoE.

>>382345360
Except it plays nothing like D2, and calling it a D2 clone is an insult to the franchise.

>>382345362
>uses guides
>calls other people casual

>>382344879
hey ladies, ever date a competitive Path of Exile player? :)
I'm truly hardcore, I even wrote a few guides myself. (;

>>382345362
So you talk shit about games you don't even play, gotcha, ignored

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>>382345362
damn, is calling people casuals an actual insult for you?
you probably look something like this

btw how many pounds are you overweight?

>>382345481
Nothing wrong with using guides for complicated games that have a lot of depth to them, and you're curious to what's been created already, since obviously you're not autistic and don't have the time to learn everything about the game by playing yourself.

Which doesn't apply to GD sadly.

>>382345634
The only shit talking I've done about PoE is that it's ugly, which you don't need to play to see. Also I have played the game before, just don't play it currently.

>>382345717
>get called out
>have no arguments
>u-u-u-r f-fat

Stay mad grim yawn baby.

>>382345748
Yes that might be the case for games like Diablo 3 and Path of Exile with set, per-definined, best builds.

I prefer Grim Dawn's approach of fluid character building, but I suppose if you enjoy following a bullet point list one of those other games might but up your alley.

>>382346015
What do you mean by fluid character building? Because whatever it is, end result barely matters in a game like GD, that revolves around clearing the game once and being left with nothing to do.

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I need the expansion already.

>>382346114
What? Normal mode clear is basically a tutorial level. Legendaries don't even drop.

>>382346260
Bad design, because the game is so boring, most people quit midway through the second difficulty.

>>382346390
You just said no one played past the first clear.

What attribute should I focus on when leveling up? Just my "main" one? (I'm a Shaman/Arcanist)

>>382346540
I didn't say that, but that also wouldn't be a wrong statement, considering the game has 12k reviews, and 2k currently playing, out of 4k monthly players.

>>382337109
Conversion doesn't carry the pre conversion stats over, it converts first. So if you boost pierce it will literally do nothing

>>382346556
Usually you want to put most of your points into Physique for HP and armor requirements and either then Cunning or Spirit. Arcanist gives you a lot of bonus Spirit though so you probably don't have to invest too heavily into it unless you're very spell focused.

Does anybody play this shit online?

>>382346709
So does Daiblo 2. Your point?

>>382333642
Best fucking ARPG on the market.

>tfw newfags always respond to the shitposter in each and every one of these threads

The fanbase of this genre is the most cancerous shit there is.
>ree you are not allowed to enjoy anything ever except THIS game (insert preferred game)!!!!!

>>382346862
Literally nobody, unless you have specific friends to play with. I've also tried playing with people from 4chan multiple times before, to no success. Game is just too casual without any depth, there's no incentive to do multiplayer at all. I've also never found anyone to trade with.

You are in for holding the left mouse button for a very long time while watching something on your other monitor.

>>382346902
Diablo 2 is a 17 year old game. Your point?

>>382346910
>Best fucking ARPG on the market.

Nice b8 shitposter.

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rate my paper canon
i'm going to use two stormhearts when i get to 75 my dps should spike to 40k at that point

>>382347194
Are you playing on an n64, or is the game just this fugly?

>>382346910
sssh
they are keeping the thread alive

>>382346991
so like every fanbase

>>382347063
so like every PC game

>>382347123
Hardcore games tend to attract a smaller and more niche audience.

>>382347297
everything is on medium for me because the amount of lighting shooting out of my ass drops my fps

>>382347123
Anyone know what form of autism this guy has?

>>382347194
What mobile game is this?

>>382347194
The I'm level 75 and have 46k dps and 11k health, so unless you just do a dickload of dps with procs that dps doesn't track I'm not sure what's wrong with your build lol

>>382347361
Shit games tend to attract a smaller and more niche audience too.

>>382347381
>no arguments
>resort to ad hominem

Why even start shit if you know you can't win? Now that's what I call autism.

It is fun for like 1 playthrough all the way through. I played shaman + occultist and went savage strike.as my main hit. I put about 80 hours in and got to third difficulty act III. I wonder what the endgame is like for that game. Anyone have any examples of the endgame of that?

>>382347504
I just read the thread there's nothing to argue with you about you're here to post "I'm right you're wrong" until your fingers bleed you stupid fucking faggot

Kill yourself

>>382347026
>I've also never found anyone to trade with.
I think this is a fruitless post to respond to but have you never visited the actual GD forums? Granted, the people I have traded with seem to be foreign, and most importantly, underage--so no different than /v/-- but with a higher population of players.

>>382347504
Shit games also tend to die off in less than a year, but here you are shit posting a thread in 2017.

>>382338510
>blaming the developers for your OCD

>>382347514
There is no end game, unless you consider the crucible dlc end game, which is just endless levels of monster waves that test how many you can clear.

>>382346991
Yeah I agree with this. You literally cannot bring up one without autistic children that play another ARPG screaming about how their favorite game is better. Most current ARPGs, even D3 to some extent, have their own merits but fanatic fanboys don't really get that.

>>382347336
I can't agree with the reasoning. Enabling shitposting has permanently destroyed 4chan. All underageb& responding to underageb& in a filthy cesspool of judgment and projection. I wish I knew of an adult community to discuss literally anything with.

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why are GD threads always 30% discussion, 70% enraged shitposters telling us how much they hate the game

Am I supposed to sell the gear I find?
Dynamite for dismantling shit seems to be incredibly rare

>>382347702
Beating the 3 rogue like dungeons, mog, log, mad queen / hidden path is very fucking difficult on ultimate

Nemesis bosses are hard on ultimate
So the end gsme is a loot grind like all of them but there's not a map system, just the dungeons that exist or crucible.

>>382347786
Fate of all threads. Look at what happened with Hollow Knight--shitposters purposely making shit threads about it all the time. We don't have that problems but they swarm our threads en masse because god forbid civility ever exist.

>>382347623
Except that I'm posting with arguments, whereas you're getting so mad you're losing, you need to insult people and tell them to kill themselves.

>>382347648
Not true, just open twitch and look at how many shit games are in the top 10 viewed. It's also funny how GD babies get mad all the time when someone has a different opinion, and instantly call shitposting, because they have nothing left to say.

>>382347842
Pretty much. Save blues and other high-quality pieces for builds on alternate characters.

>>382347747
Maybe go back to neogaf or reddit.

>>382347786
I like to think ARPG fanboyism is much like console war bullshit in the sense of you have so much invested in your choice that your choice has to be the best and all others are shit. But instead of investing
$400 on a console it's 1000 hours in a game.

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>>382347489
i have 5 damage procs and 2 saving procs
>>382347297
>>382347414
yea i guess it doesn't look that good even on highest

>>382347894
Yes people tend to call you a shit poster when you resort to calling everyone else babies and the extent of your argument is "every game I don't like is shit."

>>382347786
Except that you're contradiction yourself, and nobody is discussing the game itself, including you. Just look at how many people posted about builds, characters, and other shit, and got no more than 1 reply.

Also, just because someone has a differing opinion than yours, doesn't mean they're shitposting. The one shitposting is you, by getting angry at them, and replying with insults. Either don't reply. or reply with actual discussion.

The bosses where pretty underwhelming, the last boss was some fat fuck that just keep spawning other monsters.

>>382348153
>responding to it
I hope you don't think you're any better than that kid. The two of you should forge a suicide pact

>>382348153
Thanks for proving you ignored all my posts and resorted to name calling, just because you don't agree, hence why you getting called a baby, because that's what babies do exactly. Good job shitposting at me, I fell for it.

>>382347894
I just joined the thread to call you autistic you brain dead monkey

>>382348346
Typical Grim Dawn fangay.

>>382348086
Your health is a bit low for your level. Do you have many points in Heart of the Wild? Also if survivability is something you're having a hard time with you could consider Wendigo Totem for the heal, though you need to be near it for it to work.

>>382348227
You realize how esoterically, ironically backwards it is to be responding to someone trying to convince them not to respond to off topic shit posting. It's 4chan lighten up man.

Also, This shit is hilarious so no I'm not going to stop.

>>382348265
Go back to D3 faggot.

Have any of you played Chronicon

>>382348564
I will once the new seasons starts. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy myself watching you shitposting while fuming at the mouth.

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>>382348164
but why are you in this thread constantly posting if you don't like the game? i don't get it

what's the appeal?

>>382348540
11 in heart of the wild
so far i'm doing fine in ultimate with storm totem procing twin fangs but i will go wendigo totem for bum rushing bosses

>>382348714
There's this thing called freedom of speech. Then there's people starting arguments with me, that I wont back down from. Mostly because the GD samefag shilling.

>>382348670
New season? D3 seasons don't even fucking add anything. It's just free hand me out legendary sets. I was wrong, you should try Path of Exile man, it's way better than Diablo 3.

>>382348757
Fair enough, twin fangs does help a lot for sustain. Trickster's a bit of an odd class with niche setups, but if it's working for you then that's good.

>>382348564
I sage any time I respond to a shitposter, in some effort to render my post as worthless as it already is. One day I'll learn that no underage will ever accept any opinion other than their own ignorance

>>382348932
>D3 seasons don't even fucking add anything

Thanks for confirming you haven't played the game. Also I shouldn't play PoE, because I don't want to.

>>382347786
I feel like every game that shares a genre with a blizz games gets shit on instantly by blizzdrones. Have you seen the Gwent threads?

>>382348572
Never heard of it. Looks cool tho, have you tried it ?

>>382349049
>One day I'll learn that no underage will ever accept any opinion

Then there's you, refusing to accept that people don't like your game. How ironic.

>>382348867
freedom of speech has nothing to do with image boards, and if it did it'd only explain why you can do it, not why you choose to do it

>>382349075
Oh right, sorry I forgot. They added a $15 character pack. My bad.

>>382349014
i'll probably just get ultos gear to top off me being super squishy

>>382349357
>tfw only have two pieces of Ultos

>>382349216
The 15 dollar character pack has nothing to do with seasons, and you're not forced to buy it. Yes, your bad again.

>>382349213
>reedom of speech has nothing to do with image boards

What does this even mean? Also yes it does, especially in the case of 4chan.

Also note how OP literally asked "What am I in for?", I answered, then a few assmad GD shills started shitposting at me.

>>382336512

Path of Exile is objectively better than every other ARPG currently available.

>>382335147
>>382335427
>instant respawns where you died
D3 is the most casual HnS to ever be made.
Half its shit is just lifted right from WoW

>>382349575
>most casual
but anon, how will blizz earn enough shekels to give us more content?

>>382349575
Give me examples of shit in D3 that's lifted from WoW, because WoW, especially with Legion, lifted shit from D3.

>>382349503
Oh then I must have forgotten all the other amazing gameplay changes. I heard they were adding two entirely new skills trees that open up dozens of possibilities for character builds. Aren't they adding on a new act too?

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>>382349743
The entire crafting system is straight from WoW, right down to the UI.

>>382349503
freedom of speech means protection from government persecution for what you say

the government is not trying to persecute you for shitposting, freedom of speech is irrelevant

>>382349756
They're adding class and set changes, a new type of rifts, a new zone, and maybe other shit I haven't been paying attention to. Last season added a lot of QoL changes too. And adding a new act in D3 would make no sense, since the game revolves around adventure mode, and not the meaningless story mode, where they raped the lore.

>>382349075
Seasons don't add anything.
>M-muh rewards
And that's it. You play through the story, the same story you've already beaten, get a reward. You grind rifts, the same rifts that you can grind right now, get a reward. Hell the new challenge mode they added does more to D3 than seasons do, and you can do those right now.

>>382349950
Oh you're right, I was thinking of Grim Dawn. I forgot Blizz stopped supporting D3 years ago outside of pity patches and milking the few saps still playing it with overcharging for glorified DLC.

>>382349164
It's pretty fun, but there are set bonuses on loot so endgame you sorta have to gravitate to a few builds. Without set bonuses, I found most active abilities weren't very good. It was over a year ago though, maybe it's better now

Also endgame is basically just survival mode, so it's a lot of fun for a couple playthroughs, but didn't keep me hooked

>>382349895
Except that I'm expressing my opinion here freely, and the 4chan government wont do anything about it, no matter how much you cry and how much your feelings are hurt.

>>382349875
Crafting in WoW isn't really anything special or unique though.

>>382350079
Yes they do add anything, I just explained what, and no, you don't play through the story, unless you're retarded.

>>382350160
>they added a new act to this already boring shit game

Oh boy, how interesting. Any changes worth coming back to the game for, except the new class, which doesn't bring anything new or unique?

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>>382350218
>the 4chan government

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>>382350218
>>382349743
Here's a side by side.

D3s such a waste

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>high level multiplayer
>literally cannot tell what the fuck is going on during any fight
>the entire screen is constantly exploding with mountains of shit as everyone spams every ability they have all the time

every time

>>382350304
How can you say the classes aren't new and unique when Diablo 3 doesn't even have classes? Each character is a glorified skill list locked behind level caps.

>>382350350
>wow invented categorized lists

>>382350350
Ok, I see this, but the crafting system in WoW isn't anything special. It's what any game would do if they had to put a basic crafting system in. An example of stealing would be WoW and the legendary system, that's a copy from D3. Random legendary drops with unique effects that would change your play style and build.

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>>382350437
>tfw multiplayer with 4 warders all equipped with ultos

>>382350465
First of all, you're the one bringing D3, not me, I never wanted to compare the games in the first place. Second of all, explain what's cool and unique about the new GD class, because I don't see anything interesting. Third, saying each character is a glorified skill lost locked behind level caps can be said about any game with classes, I don't understand this argument in particular.

D3 classes and builds at least play a lot differently from each other, unlike GD, where it's almost the same shit every time.

>>382350171
Ok and one thing actually annoyed me but most people just respond "git gud"
There are kill combos. You get xp and mf bonuses with higher combos. That's cool
But combos persist after teleporting for about two seconds, so getting a decent combo is dependent on entering a door/portal immediately after killing something, and then having 1-2 seconds to find another mob to kill immediately after loading in. I only managed to carry a combo through a door like once or twice

>>382350171
I have been looking into it in the meantime and really like the classes and skills. I will give it a pirate, maybe buy it before summer sale ends.
Thanks a lot for bringing it up.

>>382350218
>Yes they do add anything
Let's look at Season 10 shall we.

>Season arrive on consoles
>New Cosmetic Rewards
>Four total stash upgrades by
>Complete a Torment XIII Rift in under 5 minutes
>Complete Greater Rift 60 solo
>Kill Greed on Torment XIII
>Kill Maghda on Torment XIII in under 15 seconds Etc
>Rotating seasonal conquest
>All of which can be found outside of seasons
>Haedrig’s Gift
>It's just a complete set by betting chapters 2,3 and 4
>So playing the story

Yeah dud, seasons totally change D3

>>382350651
Okay. Just for starters the Necromancer can summon an unlimited number of temporary skeletons that all scale with pet and aura bonuses in addition to benefiting from vitality damage. GD has had a ton of normal pets, but this is the first class with a dedicated temporary pet that can be spammed.

That;s one ability of one class. The Inquisitor is introducing dedicated support for dual wielded ranged builds, so that will completely change the game as well.

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>>382350437
>titan quest ae multiplayer with 4+ dream/mage players
shits unreal

>>382333642
shit early, amazing endgame. better than d3/tl/that f2p rmb shit

but not as good as median (if you dont mind DII grafx

also shit online, not so interesting monsters but a GREAT expansion coming up!

also fashion souls, and amazing builds/items

>>382350792
Except that seasons in D3 add changes that don't apply to non seasonal characters, which are usually set changes, class ability changes, and other shit. I'm not saying they go on big patches and completely change the game, but there are changes and seasons are the only time the game is alive. If that wasn't true, the game would be just as alive after the seasonal hype ends, which it isn't.

>>382350876
Cool, too bad I'm not interested in pet builds. And how would dual wielded ranged builds completely change the game?

>>382350731
Good call, I think you will enjoy it

>>382351257
We're not talking about if seasons keep D3 alive anon, we're talking about seasons adding content. And they don't. You can beat a greater rift solo right now, the only difference is you won't get reward for it other than the first time achievement, and the loot drops, which aren't affected by seasons. You can kill Maghda on torment 13 right now, and not get a season reward for it. I just beat acts 2,3, and 4 yesterday with my necro, and just got first time achievements, and generic legendarily. Season don't change this game, it changes what rewards you get, which is why seasons keeps this game alive.

>>382351169
>expansion isnt out
>IT'S GREAT
shill much?

>>382351257
Because it opens up a completely new weapon type that was only half supported before?

Also the Necro isn't purely pet oriented. It's also going to introduce a ton of new options for cold and vitality builds.

>>382339895
The atmosphere of Grim Dawn doesn't even come close to Diablo 2 and it's even below PoE. Everything past the beginning is boring as fuck, no charismatic NPC, monsters or bosses or story

It's a snooze fest

>>382352173
Nothing comes close to D2 that's a fair comparison but not a valuable one.

>>382351849
Now you moved the goalposts. You were talking about changes, and seasons do bring changes, content is a whole different word, not to mention that yes they are adding some content with the new season.

>>382351957
Ok but would that change how boring the combat is, how most builds play exactly the same, and how ugly all skills look?

>watching diablo-clone elitists argue each other calling each others games shit
fucking lmaoing at you

meanwhile I am open to any game of the genre except d3 and torchlight of course

>>382352640
>I have 3 and a half options, but I'm not open to two of them

Uhh, ok.

>>382352753
those are shit even from a non-elitist's perspective. How does it feel lel. Enjoy your game that I don't like.

>>382352847
All I'm saying is that it's funny how you're limiting your options in a genre that barely has any. It feels bad. Maybe Wolcen will save us, maybe.

>>382353004
It's a really nice kind of game.

>>382352603
Cute anon, I'm moving the goalpost? How is doing sprinter, an achievement that can be gotten without playing season something new that seasons added? How is beat act 2,3, and 4, and being gifted a set piece that's already in the game something new that was added in seasons?

>not to mention that yes they are adding some content with the new season.
Like what? Because even Blizzard doesn't have anything on season 11 on their web sight

>>382353004
I hope Wolcen eventually gets finished because it looks pretty cool, but goddamn is their progress slow. It's been on Steam for a year and there isn't a whole lot to show for it.

>>382346794
thanks anon thats exactly what I needed to know

>>382341565

>builds were better

But it's hard to point at any one ability in Grim Dawn and not be able to trace it back to a move in Titan Quest. Some are basically the exact same.

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>>382350437
>join a multiplayer game
>have to play with 3 cold spellbreakers

Expansion when.
They're adding what are probably going to be my 2 favourite classes and I can't wait any longer.

>>382335416
>vania

They're called diablo-clones.
Where does the Castlevania even come into it?

>>382353423
Have you even played the game? Historically seasons have done skill, set, and legendary item changes, that aren't available to non season characters, as well as other shit like obtainable cosmetics, and QoL changes.

>beat act 2,3, and 4, and being gifted a set piece that's already in the game

Also I've never heard about this.

>>382354376
August/September

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>Trying to be super clever about things and just pull the hero so I don't have to fight a buttload of skeletons

>Fucker runs backwards into the ghosts and skeletons

>>382354473
>Historically seasons have done skill, set, and legendary item changes,
Those can be done with patch note that have nothing to do with seasons, like with loot 2.0.

>that aren't available to non season characters,
Funny, because my non season necro got the same legendary items that my season WD had in the stash.

>Also I've never heard about this.
So you don't even read the seasonal patch notes? How the fuck can you argue that seasons change thing, and not know about one of the seasonal rewards?
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20631435/first-look-season-10-3-17-2017 skip to Haedrig's Gift.

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>>382341986
I love how people keep repeating that same excuse when most players stopped using auto attack builds a few months after release.
What you're talking about is TQ, not GD where using more skills means you're proccing more devotions and applying more resist reduction.

>>382355379
He spouts the same shit ad nauseum in every GD thread. Lurk more and stop giving it attention.

>>382355118
>So you don't even read the seasonal patch notes?

Neither did you, retard, because acts aren't chapters, and you said acts.

About your other points, first of all, new season isn't out, and I don't know what changes that one will have, and the previous season already ended, and once the season ends, the changes get rolled over to non seasonsal.

>Those can be done with patch note that have nothing to do with seasons, like with loot 2.0.

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean, because if you played any other season, season 6 especially, that had the most changes, and maybe the post players, you'd know how many different abilities, legendaries, and sets were from non seasonal.

One thing I really wish existed in Grim Dawn was being able to break down items into components. Because goddamn do I ever spend a lot of time right clicking junk to the merchants.

>>382355379
It's not funny, because it's true. Just because you show one build that happens to have more abilities, which aren't even that useful, doesn't mean most of the builds aren't boring and uninspired.

>>382355764
You can break them with that tight whore you save in the first act.

>>382355764
thats literally the entire purpose of saving the guys apprentice in burrwich in the first act

>>382355617
>Victory and Sacrifice
>Complete all quest in Act IV
I have D3 up right now, and the game list this achievement under campaign. There are no chapter achievements.

>>382355617
>About your other points, first of all, new season isn't out, and I don't know what changes that one will have
So why did you say that there will be new stuff added to the new season when you don't know what the new season holds?

>I don't even know what this is supposed to mean
It means that patch notes can change the game, and have nothing to do with seasons, you brought up season 6, I brought up loot 2.0, both changed items, only one change with a season.

>>382356839
Except that you're moving the goal posts agian, and you said something completely different, which was, and I quote "beat act 2,3, and 4, and being gifted a set piece that's already in the game", after which you link me to an article that proves you yourself wrong.

>So why did you say that there will be new stuff added to the new season when you don't know what the new season holds?

I didn't, I said typically seasons have changes in them, that don't apply do non seasonal, which historically has been the case.

>It means that patch notes can change the game, and have nothing to do with seasons

If they have nothing to do with seasons, why do you bring them up in a conversation about seasons?

>>382356196
>>382356698
I took the normal guy and never spoke to him again. Shit.

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>>382354971
Always assume the crypt areas are just full of skellingtons waiting for you to get close.

>>382355765
The best builds make use of a ton of abilities, it's that simple. Auto attack builds are subpar and boring, a few of my builds were actually single attack ones from around release that I repurposed recently into better ones because they were just getting weaker the further I got into Ultimate. Not having fun and gimping yourself really isn't worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRRY2eC2X90

>>382334789
he`s right

>>382357341
Thanks a lot for linking a video that shows how boring the combat is, and how the player uses two abilities on cooldown, and the others occasionally.

>>382357471
lol

>>382357471
actually, i was trolling

>>382357570
so you didn't watch the video then, good to know

>>382357161
You are really bad at missing that goalpost anon. The link says chapters, the game calls them act, if you played D3, you would know that the game calls the chapters acts, so I'm not moving shit.

>I didn't
>not to mention that yes they are adding some content with the new season.
>>382352603
Yes you did.

>If they have nothing to do with seasons, why do you bring them up in a conversation about seasons?
To prove to you that item, and skill changes aren't exclusive to seasonal patch notes.

>>382357570
If it was anything more involving, you'd complain that the combat is just "mash all the buttons lmao"

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What if you were to give this game to, say, twenty... intelligent people I mean, what would that do? Let's face it, what would it do?

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>>382349575
>respawn

Wait don't tell me. You play softcore on these games? What a fucking loser. Who cares where you spawn, you could spawn at the beginning of the game and it would still be for babies. Fuck off faggot.

HAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHA

>>382357317
>normal guy

what are you talking about

this isn't a quest you can fail

>>382357870
why do i keep seeing this post??

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>>382357317
Are you thinking of the Blacksmiths?

>>382357768
>The link says chapters, the game calls them act, if you played D3, you would know that the game calls the chapters acts

First of all, this is plain wrong, second of all the link you yourself linked shows seasonal only rewards that can be obtained from seasonal achievements, that are separated in different chapters, which aren't acts.

>Yes you did

I meant to talk about the new zones, and challenge rifts, and whatever else there is.

>To prove to you that item, and skill changes aren't exclusive to seasonal patch notes.

Which you didn't prove, because, again, historically this hasn't been the case, the prime example being s6, which had the most changes, which were only applied to non season, only after the season ended.

>>382358167
yeah hes confused

ITS CALLED GOOGLE JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE

>>382357830
Now you're just being desperate, with your random implications.

>>382357317
TALK TO THE GUY IN THE BUILDING NEXT TO THE PORTAL AT THE PRISON

DG is alright at first, then it quickly turns to shit when you realize you're forced to focus on just one or two abilities to keep progressing.

You don't get to combo 3-5. You have to throw all your points and all of your damage boosts onto ONE key damage ability and maybe one or two secondary ability.

It's annoying as fuck. I beat the game once then uninstalled it because D3 is unironically better. 7 abilities, all with runes and synergy and passives and the sets and shit is infinitely more replayable than spending 10 points to add 5% damage to one generic skill per level.

>>382358392
/thread

>>382358392
:-)

>>382358196
>second of all the link you yourself linked shows seasonal only rewards that can be obtained from seasonal achievements, that are separated in different chapters, which aren't acts.
The Legacy of Raekor can be earned by playing the game normally, that isn't a seasonal reward.

>I meant to talk about the new zones, and challenge rifts, and whatever else there is.
Which was added in 2.6

>Which you didn't prove, because, again, historically this hasn't been the case, the prime example being s6, which had the most changes, which were only applied to non season, only after the season ended.

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20099645/first-look-season-6-rewards-4-25-2016

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/patch-notes/2-4-0

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/patch-notes/2-4-1

Yeah so many changes with s6

>>382360139
>The Legacy of Raekor can be earned by playing the game normally, that isn't a seasonal reward.

It literally says in the link it's a seasonal achievement, the achievements itself are different between seasonal and non seasonal, because non seasonal is always one season behind.

>Yeah so many changes with s6

Yes, a lot of changes that changed the meta and how builds work in the new season, as opposed to non seasonal, that don't get the changes, until the new season ends.

>>382358137
What post, anon?

>>382360681
the one I replied to it's everywhere

>>382360385
The set can be gained without playing the season, it's not a seasonal reward. You are gifted it by playing the season, but don't need to if you already have it. This shit can be gotten on a non seasonal character.

>Yes, a lot of changes that changed the meta
If you read when s6 started, you would see that it started in patch 2.4.1. The reason I put patch 2.4.0 you would see that it changed just as much as the patch s6 went live in. Meaning your historical bullshit isn't true.

>>382333642
bad optimization because the engine is 10 years old

>people defending d3 with a straight face

>>382360880
>You are gifted it by playing the season, but don't need to if you already have it

How are you going to already have it, if you're starting a new seasonal character to get it?

>This shit can be gotten on a non seasonal character.

Because that was the case in the season prior to that, which rolled over to non seasonal, but the achievements are different.

>Meaning your historical bullshit isn't true

So you're saying 2.4.0 isn't a patch that happened in the history of D3 patches? What kind of log is that, I literally said that historically seasons got a bunch of changes, that didn't roll over to no seasonal, until the season ended, and you literally link me a patch that's one season earlier that the one from the season I used as an example. When did you start playing, to not know new season changes never used to apply to non seasonal characters? Do you even play the game?

What are you even arguing about? Are you trying to imply that non seasonal is worth playing or what?

>>382360949
Didn't lagged on my old PC on high/med , doesn't lag now on new PC on maxed. Get new PC - or min/max in Configurations - that's why your playing on PC not on console - use it.

>>382361382
>didn't lagged
>your playing

Learn English, GD baby.

>>382338175
Maybe if you turn off Bloom and other shitty effects. It's and old engine wich isn't properly updated

>>382348867
> Freedom of Speech
> Freedom to post in a thread about a game you hate
> Freedom to be autistic
2017 current year

>>382362145
Yes, and most importantly, free to answer the question that OP asked.

Stay mad neogaf loser. Literally nothing you can do about it.

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>>382362252

>>382362252
The OP asked about what to expect from Grim Dawn, not from some salty spectrum shitter with objectively bad taste. I'm not so much mad as I am sympathetic of your mental illness, though.

>>382362407
You are literally fuming at the mouth at someone with a different opinion than you. Go back to neogaf, 4chan clearly isn't for you.

>>382362145
CAREFUL, ANON
DON'T ABUSE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR THE 4CHAN GOVERNMENT WILL GET YOU

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GIVE ME ULTOS AND WARBORN GEAR RIGHT NOW

>>382362479
> ctrl + f
> "neogaf"
> 3 posts all from the same guy
You're embarrassing yourself, you know, but you're welcomed to keep trying.

>>382362687
I'm not the one sperging out that others, because they don't like my game.

>>382362720
No, you're the one sperging out at others because they like games that aren't yours which is marginally more autistic.

>>382362885
Except that I'm not, I gave an answer to the question asked in the OP, which resulted at angry babies screeching at me, and being so mad, they reply to 3 hour old posts to cry about it.

Stay mad.

>>382333642
it's a good diablo clone, but not the best optimized game in the world. it's the way to go if you're looking for a more diablo 2 like game instead of the simplified diablo 3, doesn't quite run as well as it should though.

>>382363059
> Making idle observations
> Screeching
You seem to have some serious delusions, but that actually explains a bit. I'm sorry for activating your autism card.

>>382361382
>works for me :) -the post

cancer.

>>382363343
>replying to a 3 hour old post with insults because it hurt your feelings
>idle observations

Talking about delusions lmao.

>>382363308
I've seen seeing this a lot, what's up with it? Does it hate ATI or something? I've got a mid-range and I run it perfectly on maxed settings.

>>382363504
I don't know, but borderless windowed for one fucks up my calibration settings and everything, and no other game does that.

>>382363470
> staying in the same thread for three hours just waiting for someone to hurt your feelings
wew

>>382335005
Doesn't this describe the entire genre?
When are we going to get a sci-fi arpg that plays like a twin stick shooter with the customization and builds of an arpg?

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>>382363504
I'm running a nvidia GPU and it chugged along when there was too much happening on screen. I heard the recent update optimized the game a bit, so maybe it'll be sorted out. probably going to get back into the game to see how well it runs now, so I can see if I want to buy the expansion.

>>382363809
No, I was discussing the game with others, unlike your angry redditor ass, that came in here specifically to sperg out, embarrass himself, and get btfo.

>>382361349
>How are you going to already have it, if you're starting a new seasonal character to get it?
You won't have it on a new season character, but that still isn't something new when the fucking set is already in the game, and can be gotten without playing a seasonal character.

>So you're saying 2.4.0 isn't a patch that happened in the history of D3 patches?
How in hell's name did you even come to that conclusion?

>What kind of log is that, I literally said that historically seasons got a bunch of changes, that didn't roll over to no seasonal, until the season ended,
Then explain every single update that the consoles got if seasons didn't start for them until s10

>to not know new season changes never used to apply to non seasonal characters?
They always applied to none seasonal characters retard, because they're part of the patch notes, not the seasons rewards.

>Are you trying to imply that non seasonal is worth playing or what?
No, this whole shit fling is over wither or not seasons add things to the game, and they don't. You're for some reason confusing seasons with patch notes. The Legacy of Raekor could've been gotten since it first doped in RoS in patch 2.1.0, the same time s1 started, but it isn't part of the seasonal rewards, so you could've always get this set, without playing seasons, and it never rolled over from seasons.

>>382364124
> btfo
You Summerfags make it painfully obvious you're not here very often, especially when you keep projecting your frequent Reddit visits onto others. At least we know what you look forward to every time you come to /v/.

I recently got Grim Dawn and the only ARPG I've played before it was Diablo 2 was a child, which I played very casually being, y'know, a child.

I'm loving the game but I'm kind of confused on something. How is this genre meant to be enjoyed in the long term? My playthrough feels great but I can tell that this is a game you're intended to replay, and it doesn't look like there's much variance in the progression at all even if build variety might be huge. How the fuck do people drag themselves into making second and third and fiftieth runs? Is it easier on subsequent files or do the build options really carry hunting down shrines and shit that much?

Also the fuck are we getting in this expansion and when is it coming out.

>>382333642
extremely poorly optimized fun.

>>382364275
>but that still isn't something new when the fucking set is already in the game

Yes it is something new, because you'll want to play a seasonal character, and need the set to progress.

>How in hell's name did you even come to that conclusion?

You literally said "Meaning your historical bullshit isn't true", trying to prove it with a patch from the patch history.

>Then explain every single update that the consoles got if seasons didn't start for them until s10

Moving the goal posts again? How are consoles relevant? I don't play on console, how would I know?

>They always applied to none seasonal characters retard, because they're part of the patch notes, not the seasons rewards.


No, actual braindead retard, they didn't. Literally why people play seasons. Are you a stupid consolebaby? Should have said that from the first post. I've explained literally 10 times already that seasonal changes only applied to non season after that season ended.

>No, this whole shit fling is over wither or not seasons add things to the game, and they don't.

No, you're moving the goal posts yet again. You said changes, and IN FACT, HISTORICALLY (we've been over this already, retard), they have had many class and item changes, that were exclusive to the season only until it ended. You

>You're for some reason confusing seasons with patch notes.

You literally confused acts with chapters, and on top of that are unable to comprehend that in the past, for a fact, historically, some patch notes were exclusive to the season they were added with.

>>382364552
http://grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51499
August/September

Yes, build variety carries the game.

>>382363504
it has terrible CPU optimization
as soon as 20+ monsters + effects are on the screen FPS tanks hardcore no matter your settings

>>382364368
>someone that puts a space after he starts greentexting calls others sumemrfags
>someone so mad, that had to reply to a 3 hour post for no reason, literally calling anyone else a summerfag
>using we to try and force your opinion

You are trying so damn hard to fit in, but it's really not working.

>>382364865
> sumemrfags
You're trying so hard you can't focus those chubby little sausage fingers to hit the right keys.

>>382365053
>being so btfo the only thing you have to cling to is a spelling mistake

>>382365171
> being so contrarian that you're defending your shitty try hard attitude by deflecting embarrassing mistakes

>>382365268
>being so desperate that you seriously believe a typo is more embarrassing than being as mad as you are currently

>>382365447
> not realizing that defending yourself from a three hour long post belies just how mad, and autistic, you actually are

How do I duel wield melee weapons as a pyromancer?

>>382365548
>laughing at some kid fuming at the mouth and embarrassing himself somehow means I'm mad

>>382365559
There's are 4 relics that enable it. One can be bought as a recipe from the Devil's Crossing faction vendor IIRC, but the other 3 are random drops. Alternatively Direwolf Crest is a legendary medal that enables it.

>>382365638
> Switching verbs like "laughing" and "fuming" then using them in my own sentence
You must be a special kind of little snowflake.

>>382365842
Not as special as someone that feels the need to angrily reply to 3 hour old posts that aren't even related to him.

>>382364740
>Yes it is something new, because you'll want to play a seasonal character, and need the set to progress.
You don't need anything, you can beat the game without it, so no it isn't new.

>You literally said "Meaning your historical bullshit isn't true", trying to prove it with a patch from the patch history.
Because patch notes changes how the game plays you idiot, seasons are part of the patch note, but if you read any seasonal rewards page, they will never mention anything about changes to the game.

>How are consoles relevant?
Because RoS is on consoles, just because you don't play it, doesn't make it irrelevant.

>No, actual braindead retard, they didn't. Literally why people play seasons.
No you fucking idiot, they play for seasonal rewards, that's it. Any changes to the meta comes, from the fucking patch notes, not seasons. The Legacy of Raekor was changed in 2.4.0, not 2.4.1 which is when s6 went live like you said.

>No, you're moving the goal posts yet again. You said changes,
Which doesn't happen in any season page at all. It happens in the patch note, which 2.6 completely kills your argument, because s11 hasn't started yet, and new zones are already in.

>historically, some patch notes were exclusive to the season they were added with.
Every season comes with a patch note, but not every season has to be with a new season.

>>382365972
You seem to have this misconception I'm angry when this whole time I've actually been amused by your fragile temperament.

>>382366073
If you weren't angry, you would have replied with insults to a 3 hour old post.

>>382366142
They were more so facts than insults.

>>382366002
>You don't need anything, you can beat the game without it, so no it isn't new

Great logic, let's all go the pacifist way when playing D2, because you can beat the game that way.

>but if you read any seasonal rewards page, they will never mention anything about changes to the game

Clearly, retard, because seasonal rewards pages include information about the SEASONAL REWARDS. That doesn't mean historically seasons didn't get changes that don't apply to non seasonal.

>Because RoS is on consoles, just because you don't play it, doesn't make it irrelevant.

Yes it is irrelevant, because the game is very different on consoles, and generally when talking about it, people always assume you talk about PC, because that's the main way people play it, and where changes get implemented first. Consoles gets a lot of shit from the PC version literally yeas later.

>No you fucking idiot, they play for seasonal rewards, that's it

And because the whole community plays seasons, and because seasonal leaderboards are what matters, and because historically seasons got the new changes, and non seasonal didn't.

>Any changes to the meta comes, from the fucking patch notes, not seasons

The patch that has historically applied to the season, and not non season, which get the patch only after the season ends.

>because s11 hasn't started yet, and new zones are already in

Ok, enjoy them, this has nothing to do with changes to sets and abilities, which is what we've been talking about.

>but not every season has to be with a new season.

This isn't even English.

Notice how all of this could have been avoided, if you just mentioned you play on console. The console version to PC is how non seasonal has been to seasonal. PC gets the changes first, then they get implemented on consoles. Thanks for wasting my time arguing over nothing, stupid console peasant.

>>382366389
>being this delusional

You didn't even post a statement, all you shouted was autism this, autism that, only because someone expressed their freedom to express their opinion, and you're used to neogaf, where that isn't allowed.

>>382366840
You seem to know a lot more about Neogaf than I do, which kind of hints that you're probably from there. I'm simply exercising my right to free speech, so don't go having a sissy fit because of it.