Please tell me his palace is the worst in the game. Annoying

It is.

It actually is. The airlock puzzles were a pain in the ass too and the "boss" isn't fun or hard just super tedious

>>382322514
It is ,without a doubt

Futabas has the most annoying enemies, but his' is the most boring

>>382323896
I fucking steamrolled Futaba's palace with Ryuji's and Yusuke's physicals and high luck Morgana Lucky Punch.

Needless to say this strategy didn't work out so well in Okamura's.

Personafaggots should all be banned on sight.

>>382324620
Sorry I promise I'll make a Twitter screencap thread next time.

Indeed, worst palace.

>>382324620
Fuck off back to your dogshit and irrelevant SMT

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Worst palace is Futaba for being super short and uninspired enemy design. It's nothing but Anubis and Isis, the variety is breathtaking. Need I also remind you all there are 3 save rooms in the SAME hallway for that dungeon?

I'm trying to figure out why people complain about the timed puzzles, it's pretty straightforward so I wouldn't even call them puzzles. Do you guys just not function without Persona 4 linear dungeons?

Even DSPGaming the braindead moron got through the September dungeon without bitching. Puts it into perspective really. Burning through SP a complaint? You have roughly 8 party members by that time WTF are you all doing? Jerking each other off?

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>Best palace
>Best girl

Coincidence? I think not.

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>>382324754

>>382326593
>I'm trying to figure out why people complain about the timed puzzles, it's pretty straightforward so I wouldn't even call them puzzles.

Exactly, they're not puzzles. They're simply boring and tedious gimmicks. Which sums up the whole palace.

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>>382326781
>best girl

yes

Good thing for you that the next palace is one of the best in the game and has the best dungeon theme in P5

>>382326781
It's not Sae on pic.

>>382327202
SMELLY

Last one is worse mate.

>>382322514

The ship is the worst palace. Enjoy doing 30-minute long mazes with respawning enemies 5 times in a row.

>>382322514
Casino>Cruise>Pyramid>Castle>Prison>Museum>Bank>>>>>>Space Station

>>382328328
>Mazes in an SMT game is somehow a bad thing

The aesthetic and the two boss rush make up for it anyway.

>>382328467
>Pyramid>Castle>Prison>Museum>Bank

Pyramid that high.
Bank that low.

Please my dude just stop posting. You probably like Futaba given your taste for low hanging fruit map design.

>>382328564

oh boy this shitty maze where you have to play as a mouse 50% of the time while fighting inescapable enemies in tiny corridors for 3 hours is fantastic

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>>382328681
A RIVER IN A DRY LAND

Casino > Bank > Museum > Tomb > Castle > Ship > Space Station

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>>382329096
now thats good taste

>>382328030
NEET

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>finally get rid of randomised dungeons
>railroad them from start to finish

Futaba's palace made me wish they had gone with the original backpacker premise.

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>>382329096
correct

>>382329791
Level design wasn't great but the sheer fact that dungeons finally stopped being randomized made a world of difference.

>>382329791
>>382330443
It's clear Atlus isn't very experienced with static dungeons yet. The lead developer admitted that much of the team struggled with the dungeon designs.

I expect substantial improvement in the future.

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>>382330687
kinda weird coming from a company that specialises in dungeon crawling RPGs

>>382322514
this game was easy and fun af desu, you should kill yourself op

>>382329093

A LOST ACE IN A LOST HAND

>>382329096

Casino > Castle > Bank > Museum > Tomb > Ship > Space Station >>> Memento Depths

>>382330443
>>382330687

I thought Tokyo Mirage Sessions had better designs, and hoped this was the base for P5 to blow out of the water.

I stopped playing the game after I hit mid way into the space station because it felt stale as fuck, maybe I'll pick it up again soon.

>>382330998
Last ace in a lost hand.

>>382331043
>>382330849

Doesn't seem like they mix their teams all that much.

>>382322514
yes it's the worst

>Want to replay the game from scratch so my final time isn't 135 hours
>Remember the dungeons, sleep gating, hand-holding/lack of decisions, and confident grind
Feels bad man. They clearly added a bunch of unnecessary things to sell a different version in the future, but they need to release it.

>>382331110

a lost ace in a last hand

Casino > Museum > Castle > Ship >> Bank >> Depths > Tomb > Space Station

>>382331043
I actually shelved P5 after the museum and came back a month later and had a great time.

It's defintitely a game that benefits from breaks I think.

>>382331043
>maybe I'll pick it up again soon
EVERYTHING picks up after the 5th Palace. Given the plot events that occur during/after that palace, I sometimes think they made the gameplay side of it suck on purpose in some twisted desire for gameplay/story cohesion.

Nah, the boat was by far the worst.

>Entire palace consists of mini-bosses and mouse "puzzles"
>Mini-bosses all play out the same story-wise with the party trying to trick them, then inevitably getting mad and fighting them
>Mini-bosses range from piss easy to just kinda tedious, with some just spamming the same move while others bring out annoying status ailments
>Mouse puzzles are brain dead and the biggest challenge comes from finding the mouse hole that's always there
>Cover in the hallways is terrible, with the corners sometimes being finicky
>Actually the only palace where I found clipping textures, which is unheard of in the series known for a decent amount of polish
>Fucking King Frost and Baphomet clusterfucks
>Takes forever even when you know the puzzles/encounters, whereas other palaces can be sped through on NG+

The actual main boss fight and the reveal of Loki were neat, but otherwise it's just an unpolished slog. At least with the space station, once you know the "puzzles" it can be sped through pretty easily. The boat even on NG+ is the one I dread going through because the constant mini-bosses and mouse puzzles slow you down no matter what. Don't forget the amount of backtracking required.

It's the only palace that I actually felt was rushed. You've just got piled on mini-bosses, a single type of puzzle, and dull hallways to trek through. Add to it some texture issues and it feels like it was rushed.

>>382331282
>lack of decisions
I'm up to the Museum on NG+. I'm already noticing scenes where your dialogues don't matter at all; the other characters have the same response regardless of what you pick.
I also forgot how early they introduce Makoto to the story (she's in cutscenes before they show Yusuke), and how antagonistic she is before her awakening.

I thought Shido was way worse.

Aside from the first section and the uninspired boss fight, the Space Station was pretty cool I thought.

>>382331617
dialogue options NEVER mattered outside of social links and even in those, they only affect the amount of points you get

>>382331341
it was bloated as fuck.

mouse mazes were atrocious and long narrow corridors made for tedious ambushes because you have to wait for the enemy to get in the right position

>>382329378
WIFE

>>382331913
Yeah, but at least in past games the other characters would note what you said (especially if you said something funny or stupid), even if the scene would always play out the same way. In 5, they just ignore what MC says if it's not what they want to hear. That, or both 'choices' essentially say the same thing with different words.

>>382331282
I agree, I thought P5 was great but it had a lot of annoying stupid shit I could have done without. Which is a shame because I think the highs of P5 are the best in the series.

>>382330443
>>382329791
The mid-size and large-size random floors in Tartarus shit all over every dungeon of Persona 4. Persona 4 was half random and half "It's symbolic" man made designs.

>>382332815
I actually like Tartarus better than the P4 dungeons, simply because on NG+ in P3 I could give my team their endgame equipment, then tell them to split up and find the exit. Maybe it's because I played Portable, but they rarely got into fights if you tell them to avoid them.

>>382331296
>Tomb
>Second worst

Bad post

>>382331913
>dialogue options NEVER mattered outside of social links and even in those, they only affect the amount of points you get
There are some exceptions like Sun and Strenght SL with different people and the two routes of Ai's SL.

>>382326781
Ew

>>382322514
it absolutely is
airlock puzles were one thing, I can handle that. But this avoiding enemies bullshit, listening to the bots so you don't have to fight the same ridiculously hard boss few times.

It was absolutely shit and a gigantic letdown

Can I ask something? Why so many here consider the Casino the best? I remember that It wasn't that special and that it was quite short and filled with boring events like the arena.

>>382336417
it has a akechi and cool theme

>>382336417
The ruse.
Akechi being temporarily playable.
Actually feels like a location that stylish thieves would break into, compared to the Pyramid and Space Station.
The music, even though it has the worst Engrish vocals of all the songs in the game.

>>382324620
wanna talk about jontron

>>382328564
>SMT game
But it's not.

>>382336841
yes it is

>>382322514
The boat palace's fucking mice puzzles are what's keeping me from finishing up NG+. It's not even hard, just tedious as hell

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>>382336920
MegaTen. By phasing out the name SMT in the localizations, AtlUSA is acknowledging that they're two different things.

>>382336690
Pyramid is 100% a thief local, of all the stages it most gave me the feeling of Lupin the 3rd. Space Station is trash though

>>382329096
>bank that high
The fuck? It was really bland and repetetive, almost space station tier. No way it's second best.

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>>382332074

>>382322514
If you think space is garbage
Wait till you get to the ship

>>382337865
Well you can't deny it had the most dope ass ost though

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>>382332815
None of the shitty """dungeons""" in P3 or 4 are good.

P2 had actual dungeons.

Tartarus is garbage.


Pic related

Nocturne dungeons shit on Tartarus and P4 dungeons and it came out years before.

What did Atlus mean by this.

Ship is the worst imo. The puzzles there are much more tedious than the Space station's. Like they aren't even difficult just obnoxious.

>>382326781
>autistic child
>doesn't know how to act in public
>doesn't know to to socialize with older people
Like what nigga lmao you only like this character because you can't talk to people outside the internet.

>>382326781
Kaneshiro's bank is the best palace with the best music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbwljew1UbE

>Persona 5 - 2
>Set several years later.
>A social revolution has happened in Japan. However it is not all positive, with citizens becoming blood thirtsy for the lives of their former rulers not unlike the French revolution.
>This has resulted in a new mementos being born.
>Unable to access the metaverse for several years the Phantom Thieves lost the power of persona.
>With a new metaverse springing into life they have each developed a palace.
>A new team of phantom thieves ends up stealing the distorted desires of one of the old thieves, and then is directly asked by that thief to help by stealing the desires of their friends.
>Ryuji is now a high school gym teacher. After his experiences with Kamoshida he has become completely adverse to discipline and basically lets everyone walk all over him. The new phantom thieves have to teach him being a bit strict is fine and that it's okay to stand up for himself.
>Ann has become sex negative because of Kamoshida. Also because of Shiho she's pro life to the extreme, taking part in rallies against both abortion and euthanasia. Basically she's a hard conservative. The PT's have to teach her sex is okay and that sometimes death is the right decision.
>Morgana is so obsessed with being human his life is miserable. PT's have to teach him to love himself no matter the form he's in.
>Yusuke is so focused on his art he doesn't have a normal job and is poor as fuck. PT's have to remind him making money isn't wrong and that he needs to find a work/life balance.
>Futaba picks up her mother's research and becomes so obsessed with proving her mother right and that she didn't commit suicide that she's become a shut in again. PT's have to help her out of this.

>>382339170
>Makoto has become a cruel and merciless champion of justice. She holds people to unreasonable standards and ignores circumstances around crimes, such as being as harsh on someone who steals bread to live as she would be on someone who steals for fun. PT's have to teach her mercy.
>Haru has become a hard socialist and green terrorist. She commits crimes against corporations because they hurt the enviroment and exploit people and what have you. PT's have to teach her capitilism isn't inherently evil and to calm the fuck down.
>Joker is a bum living on the street. He was so focused on helping others he never took care of himself and ended up losing everything. PT's have to teach him it's okay to be selfish sometimes.

>>382337368
>gave me the feeling of Lupin the 3rd
I'm glad I wasn't the only one.

>>382338621
What did you expect? A NEET is attracted to another because it can relate to it, the sad backstory also adds the feels factor and her also being petite makes her look non-threatening and thus more attractive. It's pretty good waifu bait

>>382339790
Well, I mean, it was completely intentional.

>>382339170
>>382339332
This is great. Giving the Phantom Thieves more of an Antifa theme would be a good idea too.

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>>382322514

you're right, it's easily the worst in the game. the amount of phys/gun resist/reflect is infuriating, especially when you've just gotten Haru.

at least the bossfight is simple enough through baton pass abuse.

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>>382341418
This better be fucking ironic

Everyone seems to agree it is. I don't know why. It never bothered me.