Metal Gear Solid V

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Should I? This is without any DLC.

>>382319458
GZ had DLC?

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>>382319508
I assumed that some of this shit is for GZ.

>>382319292
2 achievments.
Illusion that actual people are blocking us from chapter 3 and not Konami cheaters.

>>382319458
That's Ground Zeroes not The Phantom Pain if that's what you're looking for

>>382319631
That's it? Should I just get them on a second file? Do I need them for anything?

>>382319292
You do it for the trophy, or to gain some PF points. It will be stolen fairly quickly. The only way to seriously amass nukes was by duping them. That's patched now, apparently. I used to have 16 nukes.

>>382319626
No. GZ is just GZ. TPP is what all the DLC is for.

>>382319821
Fuck it. I'll just do it on a second playthrough then.

>>382319458
>>382319626
Just watch this and you'll have your money's worth out of GZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UxP_8eFU8

>>382319813
No. If the total nuke count on your server is zero, a special cutscene plays where you see the world achieve peace and quotes from Obama about nukes show up on the screen. That's about it. The cutscene was datamined and posted on youtube a day after the game released.

>>382319974
Fuck no. GZ is a much better gameplay experience than TPP.

>>382320107
I disagree. The bigger bases in TPP basically play like GZ. It's the same gameplay and you get more levels.

>>382320064
Thats retarded though, mutually assured destruction has eliminated war between major powers. It's no longer within rational interest. The only fears are false alarms and irrational actors getting access.

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>>382319292
PF points, giving cunts an excuse to your FOB and cheevos. DPs aren't that hard to amass though since all you need to do is just kill people non-stop for most of the game. I did and now I got a permanent bloody Venom. Not that it even matter tho since I spend most of my time playing as my DD wife desu.

>>382320438
I'm trying not to get DPs is the thing. I'm playing the game stealthy and it just seems like that's a ridiculous amount of DPs to get for developing something

>>382320253
GZ is better because it's actually a good game, though.

>>382320354
That's what happens in MG1. The world has completely disarmed, then Outer Heaven creates a nuke and suddenly the entire world has to bow to them. It can be rationalised the the reason you steal and disarm nukes in TPP is to bring about the world situation in MG1.

>>382320658
I don't know about that cause I haven't finished TPP yet but GZ has 1 story mission that you can finish pretty quickly and the rest of it is just filler side ops stuff. GZ is a nice demo and yeah it plays really well but it's too short to be called anything more than a separate paid prologue

>>382320515
50k DPs is fuck all to worry about though because the amount of things you do to reduce them makes it trivial.
Take this for example for a list of things to reduce it:
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/718564-metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain/72466130
All you would need to do is farm The White Mamba 5-6 times maybe to go back to normal Venom. The is no cons to being Demon aside from one voice line from DD trooper, unwashable blood and a shitty metal horn. I wouldn't worry about it.

>>382320515
If your DP points level is zero when you develop the nuke, you will be able to immediately reverse demon mode by disarming your own nuke. You will be left with a large horn, though.

>>382320781
The side missions in GZ are equivalent to entire missions in TPP, in length and complexity. The actual side missions in TPP are terrible and repetitive.

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Who here also cheated and exploited the heck out of the game to get resources and soldiers?

>resource duping
>Insurance scaming
>save reloading

I've developed every weapon in the game, got max resources and shedloads of every vechile. It's bloody hilarious to see people on gamefags complain about people like me quickly getting things that they took weeks to grind for.

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>>382320995
I finished literally everything in GZ in 7 hours. I already have 17 hours in TPP and i'm only 6% through it. You're not going to convince me that GZ is anything but a glorified demo that everyone was stupid enough to pay 20$ for.

>>382321361
>caring about online in a Metal Gear game
Who cares?

>>382321361
Be glad that you did because they have practically patched all of that shit and replaced it with FOB farming. Grinding out the fourth FOB takes at least a couple of weeks now just from the share resource and GMP costs. As if anyone was even still playing this shit now for it to matter.

>>382321528
The people on gamefags care. Oh how they talk about ways they would like to string me for taking the shortcut to endgame gear. You wouldn't believe it.

>>382321734
Well i'm glad you're making the gamefags mad at least

>>382321528
I'd say the 7 people that still play Bounty Hunter for MGO3 are ones that still care about online.

>>382321834
It's funny how MGO3 is probably more dead than MGO2

>>382321454
I had way more fun 100%ing GZ than TPP. The Raiden mission was pretty hard to S rank. Te first mission in GZ was so fun, too. I ended it by calling a chopper to the middle of the base and fighting my way to it. Rushing to the chopper with Paz on my shoulder as the music played and bullets wizzed by was extraordinary. The story in GZ was a lot better, too.

>>382322051
That makes no sense the story is literally just there to set up TPP. So you like intros to stories? Do you only watch the first 15 minutes of a movie? You can do shit like that in the TPP too I do that when you have to rescue someone. I destroy their AA Radar call the heli to their base and fight my way to the helicopter

>>382320658
No, it's the same garbage and lasts 20 minutes.
It's not worth money.

>>382322279
Dude, you are talking to a contrarian, they think they are unique because they have an opinion no one else has.
So yes, doing the same shit you do in TPP but with less choices is ebin, and the story of Big Boss extracting two kids and motherbase blowing up is almost Shakesperean writing.

Never listen to anything an MGS fanboy has to say, they are delusional fucks who recently started defending the piece of shit that MGS4 is.

>>382322279
>Skullface was better (although still gay, imo),
>Snake spoke more
>the tapes added nice background info about things that happened before you arrived (instead the bullshit cutscene replacements the tapes became in TPP)
>Weapons were OSP and armories existed
>Base was better
>Story was darker
>No fultons infinitely improved the gameplay

>>382322465
It's way better, though. I enjoyed it much more than the padded experiene of TPP.

>>382322279
The story GZ sets up is not delievered on in TPP.

>>382322746
I didn't enjoy either.
They are casualized videogames with no challenge whatsoever and terrible stories.
No, a stealth game where everyone is fucking blind, there's ammo everywhere and regen health is not a good game.
No, the same shit as in TPP but with less stuff is not better, it's less of the same piece of shit.

>>382322810
A mediocre paid demo scam sets up the well deserved death of MGS.
I'd say it did it's job nicely.

>>382322616
GZ actually had more mission variety than TPP.

>>382322616
I'm just so flabbergasted that people can pay 20$ for a demo and somehow think that it's better than a full game for the same price when the gameplay is exactly the same.

>>382322681
>Skull Face is in TPP
>Venom Snake isn't snake
>There's tapes in TPP with info before you arrived
>Weapons in TPP are just fine
>You have no base at the end of GZ
>Story is literally the same story (you're retarded)
>THEN DON'T FUCKING USE IT

>>382322872
And they were all garbage anyway because the gameplay of MGSV is absolute trash made with the COD audience in mind.
Yet another MGS with an on rails shooting section, fucking pathetic.

>>382322681
>Story was darker
No, it wasn't, it was fucking cringeworthy garbage because Kojima can't and has never been able to write for shit.
The fact that the fanbase of this terrible franchise revolves around it's shit story is just baffling.

>>382322872
Are you delusional? GZ has more mission variety because it has like 6 missions. No shit they're all going to be different.

>>382322861
It was an example of a better kind of game, though. TPP, along with the latest open world failings from Ubisoft, have finally convinced people that traveling through empty maps is terrible. Medium sized maps like in GZ are way better.

>>382323025
How can they be better when both GZ and TPP are massive turds liked exclusively by the COD audience?

>>382323025
I liked it. It's a nice change from the usual Metal Gear formula of being in a set confined space.

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>>382322995
Contraians. Kids being forced to have sex and bombs getting shoved up vaginas is absolute thematic kino.

>>382323025
>the latest open world failings from Ubisoft
Like Ghost Recon Wildlands, the most sold game of the year as of today?
Or Horizon, a massive success that has probably spawned another franchise?

>>382323123
>kino
The MGS fanbase, gentleman, redditors from /tv/
Thank god this franchise was put down like a filthy dog.
Too bad in 4 years you will all be defending TPP.

>>382322876
>There's tapes in TPP with info before you arrived

No, they're all just things that could have been cutscenes in real time. The only tape that stands out is the death of Strangelove.

>Weapons in TPP are just fine

They sucked. They took away a design elemnt of the maps, too. There were no armouries in TPP. No moment where you picked up an RPG-7.

>>382321454
anon....i...

>>382323281
>ignores everything else
HAHAHAHAHA you're game is shit just admit it

>>382323070
Because they are. Do you see how that works now, contrarian.

>>382323129
Oh, so you're just pretending. Ok

>>382323080
GZ was a nice a change. It's gitmo level blew away anything that was in Blacklist, which is a heavily linear game. TPP was too sparse and empty, though.

>>382323129
Wildlands was terrible and flopped. The Ghost Recon series is shelved at this point, you moron.

>>382323395
No it wasn't.
Fucking no one asked for more open levels.
Pirating Ground Zeroes is what made me understand that TPP was going to be a piece of shit.

>>382323129
>Like Ghost Recon Wildlands, the most sold game of the year as of today?
How is that game anyways? I saw it on special before and was thinking of getting it but hurt it played something like MGS V but somehow not as fun and more shallow in gameplay.

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Well I didn't think the thread was gonna turn out this way. I just wanted to talk about Metal Gear not argue about the stupid paid demo. You wont convince me it's a better experience than TPP. Doing the same map over and over and you complaing about repetition in TPP? You're all retards.I'm out. thanks for answering my question about nukes.

>>382323328
HAHAHAHAHA no, it's good.

>>382323505
wew

>>382323456
>>382323389
https://www.pcgamesn.com/ghost-recon-wildlands/ghost-recon-wildlands-launch-sales
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/05/ghost-recon-wildlands-somehow-2017s-biggest-seller-so-far/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-13-ghost-recon-wildlands-earns-best-launch-of-the-year-so-far

Ghost Recon is one of the best selling Ubisoft games ever made, and is still in the top 10 of every western list.

>>382323456
>GROUND ZEROES IS LE KINO XD
>GHOST RECON FLOPPED
In what reality does /v/ live in?

>>382323465
A lot of people asked for it. GZ is what we need to see more of as modern hardware allows for it. Medium sized maps with lots of detail.

>>382320658
TPP's a better game

>>382323560
My bad, i misread it at the most solid game of the year.
The game is selling well but god damn it's awful.

>>382323643
>GZ is what we need to see more of as modern hardware allows for it. Medium sized maps with lots of detail.
No, we don't, openness is pointless.

>>382323691
>muh linear hallways

lel

>>382323505
The guard layout on the map in GZ changes between each mission significantly.

>>382323649
It's really not though

>>382322681
>Story was darker
So?
Darkness doesn't fit a dumb as fuck franchise like MGS.

>>382323487
That's not an incorrect assesment. The gameplay is roughly similar, third person shooter base infiltration. The notable differences are 4-player co-op, and more gun & character customization than MGSV.

>>382323735
>muh poorly designed casual turds
GZ is the proof that it's a failed model, and TPP is the proof that open world is a failure too.
This is why i'm very happy that MGS is dead, it completely deserved it.

>>382323738
Whoa the guards change shifts?! Everyone, Stop the presses! GZ is the most fucking amazing game ever!

>>382323738
Too bad the game is still piss easy.

>>382323691
TPP's level openess is definatley pointless. GZ has just the right amount of open.

>>382323943
GZ actually has a hard mode for every mission, unlike TPP.

>>382324007
No it doesn't.
There's no challenge, there's no thought put into any part of the map, the map design is boring, and it's just a military base.
GZ and TPP together killed MGS, let that be a lesson to avoid doing any of the failures that these two terrible games comitted.

>>382323765
Both GZ and TPP attempted to be dark, but only GZ pulled it off. TPP lacked proper cutscene structure. To many times you would be randomly pulled back to motherbase to have a cutscene there. Staying in the field for longer should have been a part of the game. Motherbase is too easy to return to.

>>382324073
>hard mode
You mean no 30 minute long slow camera for when one of the blind as shit guards sees you, and no pointer that these blind guys are wonder if they are seeing you or not?
That's incredible level design and pure genius from the master Hideo Kojima.
If only we had other stealth games without those features.

>>382324076
GZ has lots of challenge because the guards can actually spot you from quite a distance away.

>>382324178
>Both GZ and TPP attempted to be dark, but only GZ pulled it off.
Neither did.
The idea of Paz having a bomb in her cunt was fucking hilarious, and that over the top "gore" scene was so retarded that I started laughing.

Kojima has no fucking idea how to write anything that isn't complete retardation.
The fact that people unironically follow this franchise for the story, and actually defend it as "DUDE IT'S MGS, IT'S LE SILLY XD'' it's just embarassing.

>>382324073
You mean the shit you can turn off in the game to make the game harder for yourself from the start?

>>382324182
Guards see you from further away and you take more damage.

>>382324257
No, it doesn't.
You move crouched and nobody will see you.
If it's day, you go prone, that's it.

It's one of the easiet and most casualized stealth videogames ever made, and I seriously have no idea how anyone at Kojipro thought they should follow up on that shit.

>>382324257
No they can't. It's the exact same engine that they used in TPP.

>>382322681
>>382322876
skullface's voice director actually told him to sound less interesting
lmao tppcbros

>>382324327
Even more genius from the mastermind Hideo Kojima.
Well, since no one is capable of defending these two games, i'll be off.
Enjoy jacking off on the grave of MGS.
Just hope Death Stranding makes Kojima fuck off from videogames once and for all before he ruins everything even more.

>>382324263
Well you're obviously just a jaded person who has seen too many rekt threads.

>>382324469
Don't say that. He'll move to movies

>>382324294
No.

>>382324490
Wait, are you telling me that GZ is only dark because of the overly retarded edgy shit like Paz having a bomb in her cunt?
This is the standard for "dark story" in videogames?

>>382324334
>>382324358
Crouch: spotted from 40m or more if moving.
Standing:spotted from 90m away if moving

>>382323843
>2 ez!
FOB lol

>>382324663
Ah yeah, going around the same base over and over and over again, as if the turds weren't repetitive enough.

>>382324578
I'm telling you that you can't appreciate the horror, the themes and the cinematography because you're jaded.

>>382323739
Yes it is, I think you're confusing gameplay with cinematics

>>382324578
Not everyone watches your fucked up doujins
Fuck off weeb, that's pretty grim if you ask any non-autist

>>382324718
You obviously haven't tried it

>>382324334
this is factually incorrect

>>382324728
>the horror
What horror?

>themes
Kojima is literally incapable of properly talking about themes in his stories.
For example, LOTR
>want to have the theme about corruption over power
>have the ring constantly affecting Frodo.

In MGS, Kojima tries to reference Moby Dick
>DUDE THE MAIN CHARACTER IS CALLED AHAB, THIS OTHER GUY IS CALLED ISHMAEL, A FLYING WHALE AND YOUR TRANSPORT IS CALLED THE PEQUOD LMAO

>the cinematography
What fucking cinematography?
Kojima is incapable of producing any decent looking shots, he overuses le documentary zoom and slow motion.
And the one shot camera trick is only pulled by film school students who are desperate to add some personality but have no proper ideas about it.
Then again, that's all what Kojima is, a failed film school-tier director.

>>382324985
sounds like you didn't get it

>>382324985
Like I said, it all goes south in TPP. All the distilled kino was in GZ. See? We agree.

>>382325129
>All the distilled kino was in GZ.
What "le kino", /tv/ redditor?
There's nothing that can be salvaged from that paid demo scam.

>>382325029
There's nothing to get.
Kojima is incapable of writing anything but capeshit-tier trash.

>>382325229
>There's nothing to get.
ahh the calling card of a clueless pleb

>>382325398
And of course, you won't be able to tell anyone what there is to "get" because there's nothing at all.

>>382325398
>snek, save paz and chico
>OH SHIT MOTHERBASE NO
It's so dense, every single slow-mo bit has so many things going on.

>>382319292

you're already a demon

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>>382325431
>>382325484

keep crying my man

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>>382325667
>literally no arguments
>this terrible videogame's story was 2deep4u

>>382324406
Seriously? I heard Kojima was involved with the English voice direction this time around which explains how shit it was.

>>382325830
It's not.
Like every single claim made about MGSV, it's an asspull.

>>382325868
They're exaggerating but Horan really was told not to bother with the voice he came up with when he met Kojima, it's an old interview. Recording this time around sounded like a mess for anyone who wasn't Sutherland, Baker and RAD.

>>382325830
Hayter speaks japanese as well as english, so he would help with translating the japanese scripts to convey things that normally get lost in translation. Sutherland just phoned in his lines.

As a huge metal gear fan the phantom pain was such a disappointment, other than being unfinished the plot was just retarded. I actually liked the twist that big boss created somewhat of a clone of himself but lets not talk about how the metal gear was like something out of a mech anime and much more advanced than rex and ray despite being set decades in the past.

>>382325229
There's no point arguing with kinofags. They're like conspiracy theorists who see some hidden message or conspiracy somewhere when in reality there's literally nothing there.