3 months on, did BotW really deserve it's score?

85 at best

>>382315853
Yes.

>>382315853
Of course not.

>>382315853
Yes, if not higher

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7/10
7/10
7/10
7/10

No, but maybe I'm partial because I prefer to do things in games instead of endless wandering.

>>382315853
Yes, it took several steps forward for Open World games

>>382316221
>one review of over one hundred
>the fat ass is a known attention whore

>>382316221
This isnt the first time jim sterling gave a bad review just to get attention

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>>382315853
Yes, and SMO will top that.

No.

BotW is a fun sandbox with cool tech and an amazing open world, but the game lacks main content that feels meaningful and varied; which leaves you mostly with a shitload of side content that fails to leave much of an impression.

8/10

>>382315853
nah, the only reason it got that is becaue its nintendo and switch's only game for at least a year.
in reality it's an 80-85, good game, but not stellar

8/10 at best

>>382315853
Yes. One of the GOATs.

>>382315853
>MC deleted a fuckton of userscores not dicksucking it from when it was at 7.5 and now it's at 9.5

>>382316052
SBBP

It's a solid 6/10 but got 9.7 because Nintendo pays for reviews.

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Deserving, i'd say yes. But i don't think this game will age as well as OoT.

It did open world design way better than any other games so far and it should be the new golden standard for open world games. But there are so many undeveloped systems that just lack depth.

The amount of things this game could have improved on is immense. Which just goes to show how good the core game play is.

compared to the other shit games released last year and current year
yes

>>382316768
>Nintendo pays for reviews
Is there actually an example of Nintendo doing this? People say this but is there actually evidence to back it up?

>>382316786
>The amount of things this game could have improved on is immense.
"could have"
If Nintendo was willing to spend more than 5 years and 450 million dollars on the game sure. I'm not sure consumers would be willing to buy a $100 game though.

>>382316861
In March the userscore was at 7.5 from 9000 userscores, now it's mysteriously back up to 9.5 but with 8300 userscores

>>382316861
There was a print review of Skyward Sword that claimed the overworld was the best and most free to explore that the series had since ALttP. Take that as you will.

>>382316221
>make a shitty review for a game in a series you don't even like
What's the deal

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>>382316912
hmm.... what about critic scores?

>>382316885
All i'm saying is that any competent developer can take what made BotW great and improve on everything it did poorly. I expect the sequels to be an improvement

>>382316885
what? nintendo playerbase would pay $100 without a stutter

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Everything else aside there where glaring mechanical issues that should have brought it down that simply cannot be disregarded.

Regardless of how fun it is or how enjoyable the overall product is one thing but to ignore such problems defeats the purpose of a numeric grading scale

>>382316885
>let me suck this game's dick by saying it deserves its outstanding score
>no, I'll suck it even HARDER and act offended that you even dare to point out any flaws

I like Zelda, I like this game, but this game has fucking ruined a fanbase that was already getting worse with time.

im going to buy botw but i dont know if i should buy the dlc and do my first playtrugh on hard mode, might be a good idea afterall

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>>382316912
>now it's mysteriously back up to 9.5 but with 8300 userscores
?????????

>>382316713
>>382316912

They deleted only the 0/10 reviews of people who explicitly said "I don't own this game"

>>382317147
But if you're going to argue from that perspective then the more simple a game is the better it will be, as with complexity comes more mechanical issues.

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>>382317821

Yes more complexity means more room to botch things but the good parts, The music, story, aesthetic and general gameplay can still bounce it up to a respectable even a good score. Even a 9/10 would be acceptable but you can't ignore the flaws.

You can't just say oh well games are hard to make let's pretend everything is cool.

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>>382315853
>be super excited for botw
>play hours enjoying the fuck out of it
>suddenly want to play old rpgs I never finished as a kid
>complete DQ8 including the dragons
>currently grinding for max stats in Final Fantasy X
>plan to start playing X-2 next

What the fuck is wrong with me? I really want to play more BotW, but I just want to play more games I haven't thought about in years and years more whenever I think about it.

absolutely lads

>>382317147
issues like ?
weapons breaking ? you get weapons all the time in the game, you spend 99% of the time with your weapons inventory full;
framerate ? got minor dips on Day One, most of the problems were fixed one week later;

>>382316292
>7/10
>Bad

Sorry you're still in high school and look at ratings the same way you look at scores on your homework with anything 6 or below being the equivalent to failing.

>>382316052

i agree totally

Yes. Greatest game of all time. End of discussion.

>>382318119
>issues like ?

Poor draw distance, frame rate problems, de-synch issues.

>most of the problems were fixed one week later

Super. But that doesn't mean they weren't there at launch and it doesn't mean reviews shouldn't reflect that.

I fucking LOVE Zone of the Enders but the HD version was ASS at launch. Complete fucking garbage, it doesn't matter if the PS3 version was patched and plays great after the fact. You're selling a product you can't just say "Oh well we fixed it later." That's bullshit. It's good they fixed it but the issue remains that they needed to fix it at all. You don't get credit for fixing your mistakes

>>382318181
1-7 is shit. 8 is bad. 9 is paid review. 10 is overrated + paid review.

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Breath Of The Wild has some of the same issues which all open world games have - difficulty balancing and enemy repetition for example. But they're minor inevitable niggles.

Where the game gets it's praise is in it's unparalleled approach to player agency, freedom of exploration and world building. There's stuff going on in the game which feel truly next-level.

>>382318298
de-synch was a Switch problem not of the game...

>>382318450
This is why people should just go by grades (F-A+ or S) in stead of numbers

>>382318298
Those aren't mechanical issues, those are technical issues.

>>382317147
>>382318036
>avatarfagging

>>382315853
I enjoyed the game for the first 180 hours but after that it got really boring.

BOTW is a 7/10 game at best.
Combat is broken and flurry can activate even if you "dodge" hits that would not have hit you anyway, making hugging enemies' sides and mashing dodge super easy to abuse constant flurries.

The game is also top loaded, you literally do and see everything it has to show you in the first 15 hours and it's honestly too big and far to empty for how huge the map is.

But this is nothing compared to healing and food, you can carry 3 pages of full heals and there isn't even a "stomach fullness" bar that prevents you from eating 20 cakes in 5 seconds or at least a freshness timer on foods and maybe 3-4 jars that can be used to preserve a few foods indefinitely for emergencies but having to actually find new stuff and cook more often.
To top it all off, everything is paused while you're in the menu and it's all instant, you don't even have an eating animation in combat.
Way to copy the Skyrim healing system, Nintendo, it's not like there were other much better action RPGs with better healing systems, right?

Just fixing these issues would easily take BOTW from 7 to a 9, that's how big they are.

>>382318552
>Failure, ass, shit
Why would you rate a game like that?

>>382318065
>old rpgs
jesus theyre actually over 10 years old
the fucking 90s were 20 years ago getting to 30 soon
god damn man

>>382316316
Odyssy won't pass Galaxy.

>>382318683
Weak pasta.

Do you desperate feel the need to post this in every BotW in hole of convincing yourself the game is bad?

>>382318683
Okay how many times have you posted this shit?

>>382318763
It's not bad, just average and devoid of content.
It could be a fantastic game if they give it another go.

>>382318485
This.

Not really, it was flavour of the month at best, no one talks about the game anymore. Even Ocarina and Lttp have threads on /v/ more frequently than this.

That's the thing about game journalism, you must release the review at the peak of the hype. Now that the dust has settled and people can look back at it with a new perspective I think it would get 6-8 scores.

The game got good reviews because people are afraid of getting death threats over anything under a 9

>>382316221
the fact that he tweeted this at all tells you a lot about his personality and the motives for his "review" of the game.

>>382318763
>7/10
>bad
You have to be 18 to post here.

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>>382318879
>no one talks about the game anymore.

Are you fucking serious? There's about 5 separate threads devoted to it right now and often completely unrelated threads desolve into BotW shitposting.

>>382318965
People who are 18+ understand that the range is from 6 to 10.

>>382318485
It's a shame the world itself isn't interesting for how fun it is to explore

>>382318975
No they're threads shitposting about the score one way or another, there's really not much to discuss about the game, the mechanics are very simplistic, the enemy variety is ass and more than half the shrines are garbage.

>>382318879
Check the catalog

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>>382318879
>Not really, it was flavour of the month at best

>>382318975
>>382319061
There are no BoTW threads on /v/ right now except this one, sorry to burst your bubble, it's over.

>>382319053
Not true, even now. Besides OOT threads start with shitpost about aged like milk or Arin Hanson as well. You don't pick and choose

>>382319053
Nigga theres been 500+ post threads every single fucking day for 4 months with people discussing the game at length.

When this thread dies. Another will pop up. /v/ is still in "shocked-denial" mode.

>>382315853
Yes.

>>382319053
>>382319141
>>382303439

>>382319141
/vg/

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>>382319141
So are you gonna kill yourself or what

>>382318879
>it was flavour of the month at best, no one talks about the game anymore.

Top kek. Okay buddy. We'll just gloss over the fact that this board is fucking obsessed with shitposting about the game. Including this thread.

>>382319290
>the DLC is shit
>the DLC is shit
>thread
>shitposting

It's fucking nothing

97 is surprisingly low, if it was on Steam, release by an independent studio and featured Gerudo Link as a playable character instead of clothing, it would be a perfect 100.

>>382319290
If it was the flavour of the month, you fucks wouldn't have an incessant need to make threads and shitpost about it every day. See >>382319365

>>382319371
BTFO. Funny how you salty kiddes always desperately try to move the goalposts.

Keep crying.

>>382319468
meant for >>382319371

>>382319372
97 is surprisngly high considering how little non copy pasta color swapped content there is.

It honestly makes Skyrim and FO4 looks rather attractive.
I guess it's be be expected for Nintendo's first open world Zelda.

I was hoping it got delayed soo much so they could add new content, not just because it was broken or run like crap on their underpowered hardware.

>>382319536
It's got Ocarina of Time beat in all those areas, that's still a 100.

Could it be maybe nobody cares about shitty details?

The moment the CEMU version started running on par and better than the Switch/WiiU, people stopped praising or talking much about it.

Really makes you think.

>>382319536
>non pasta
Besides red to black enemies what else is there? Silvers have new behavior, and golds does as well. 80% of the shrines have a unique puzzle linked to them too

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tfw when you realise that 10 years from now, when websites are running anniversary retrospectives about BotW, /v/ will still be crying about it.

>>382318181
>>382318450
>>382318552
University does it too. I'm sure some jobs use the 100 or A-F scale as well.

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>>382316861

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>>382319628

>>382319605
Having more than 5 enemies and 4 bosses isn't a shitty detail.

It's a reason why Souls games get played for 1000+ hours and still have interesting things to discover and dozens of styles of play plus hundreds of builds.

>>382319628
>stopped praising
Really makes you think, even this thread is full of praise

>>382319628
>CEMU version started running on par and better than the Switch/WiiU

It never has you deluded simpleton. It still runs like shit and crashes constantly. It's literally a gimped copy of the inferior Wii U version.

>>382319768
If you have an i5 Haswell or better you can run BOTW in 4K with better average performance than the consoles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsLP9Qv4rOU

>>382319830
No, Souls just has a bunch of fodder for you to walk up to and R1. Imagine a guardian in Souls, it would run away faster than you can chase it down while sniping you with the turret.

>>382319759
that's odd, but at the same time how do you explain:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/rayman-origins

>>382319759
Less reviews=higher scores
Not hard

>>382319914
Crashes every few hours, really not a big deal when the game autosaves every minute.

I'd still play it on PC even if I had a WiiU/switch, the 4K really brings the art style to life.

>>382316786
>But i don't think this game will age as well as OoT
That's such an incredibly low bar, though. Most games in general have aged better than OOT.

>>382319958
(you)

>>382320039
>Crashes
>really not a big deal

PC gamers, everyone. I'm so glad I quite the emulator business.

>>382320084
From where do soulsfags get their unwarranted sense of self-importance, anyway? It's the most basic fucking gameplay on the planet, walk up to the enemy and hit it, you want to talk complexity talk monster hunter at least.

>>382320084
he's kinda right, souls forces you to play conservatively a lot

>>382320145
OH NO, NOT CRASHES
Now I have to restart the emulator in 10 seconds and resume where I was 1 minute ago

That sure isn't worth 4K and better framerates than the mobile toaster version.

>>382320162
Mashing R1 isn't playing conservatively, it's a good way to get killed by enemies that can't be stunlocked (something that zelda does not have besides the minibosse and bosses).

>>382320291
>THIS PC PORT RUNS CHOPPY AND DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH OPTIONS AND IT RELEASED LATE HOW DARE THE DEVELOPERS DO THIS TO US REEEEEEEEE!
>This game that is full of graphical and audio glitches and crashes every fifteen minutes is the definitive way to play the game! s-switchfags btfo xD!

>>382315853

I don't know.
I can't play it because the Switch is perpetually out of stock and I'm not paying scalper prices off Amazon.

>>382315853
Definitely not. It's one of the most overrated games of the decade.

Definitely yes. It's one of the best games of the decade.

>>382320757
>crashes every fifteen minutes
2-3 hours isn't 15 minutes

>graphical and audio glitches
As of 1.8.0, none exist, except for AMD poorfags but even those got patched in 1.8.1

>>382315853
It objectively deserves a 9/10

In terms of how game reviews work, it deserves the 98/100.

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I'm torn on how I feel about it 4 months removed from release. I absolutely adored it for the most part while I was playing it, but as I got closer to finishing it I realized a lot of what I was doing in the game stopped really mattering in any real meaningful way. Outside of Silver Lynels the game became piss easy and almost everything I did felt like it had no meaningful rewards. I realized I was just leveling gear I wouldn't use, and working towards stamina/hearts I didn't really need anymore. The "dungeons" were also a pretty big disappointment by Zelda standards.
That being said, I never really felt bored with the game and was completely enamored with it all the way through the end in a way that rarely happens to me with games.
So for me anyway, on one hand it totally deserves the 97. On the other, with it's clear issues it logically doesn't deserve it.
It's fucked up.

>>382320943
Nah that's The Witcher 3.

>>382321069
Great Plateau + Getting to Impa then Purah - 10/10
All 4 divine beasts - 9/10
Lynels - 9/10
Every boss/miniboss that isn't a Lynel - 5/10
The good multi layered puzzle shrines - 8/10
The shitty 1 room shoe size IQ puzzle shrines (around half of them) 4/10
The 20 combat shrines - 1/10

Objectively a 6.571 out of 10.
Gonna round that up to 7 because they really tried.

>>382319634
>Unique puzzle
>Game only gives you 4 powerups
>Somehow thinks there are 100 puzzles unique enough to justify that statement

>>382315853
No

>>382321672
what a weird arbitrary rating system you have there, why rate the shrines in categories but not rate quests at all?

>>382321693
There's 5, the hanglider also counts.

Still not nearly enough for how many shrines there are, this is why soo many shrines are really small and dumb.
And let's not forget the 10 or so gyro garbage shrines.

>>382321805
>this is why soo many shrines are really small and dumb.
nah that's probably more because of all the scrapped content and delays

>>382321768
Quests were average, they'd get 7/10 so we get to the result anyway.

>>382319727
Yeah because you still do homework in jobs.

From someone who has a job, the closest thing to a "grade" you get is from your yearly review. For me it ranges from 1-5 with 3 being MEETS EXPECTATIONS. Multiply this scale by 2 and a 6 out of ten is "meets expectations". (Even though the actual number is a 5 out of 10)

People in the real world understand that grading does not need to be the same as it was when you were in school. Even companies who give a word next to their score usually put something like "6 out of 10. Okay" or "7 out of 10. Good"

You'll figure this out once you have a job though

>>382321889
that doesn't fully answer my question

>>382321672
you made an average of completely arbitrary features. What's wrong with your brain, anon?

>>382321672

Divine Beasts are terrible. The first one you do is cool, but then you realize they are all the same. They use the same shitty color palette too. Literally the worst dungeons in a Zelda game.

>>382315853
Yes

>>382316271
>>382316292
>>382316959
>>382318948
it triggers the autistic children every time i give his review a 10/10

>>382322653
you reviewed his review? what?

Skyrim gets a shit tonne of praise for being normie's first open world game.

BoTW gets similar as it's Nintendo's first open world game.

>>382321437
The game is more than it is the equal of its sum of its parts

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>>382316757
You fucked your meme up.

>>382322653

Who reviews your review of his review?

>>382321437
there's something very cathartic about the game - maybe it's due to the wildlife, maybe it's the artstyle, maybe it's the physics shenanigans; I don't know, but it's always relaxing to play. Despite this, it lacks an actual goal: Ganon is such a pushover that the idea of getting strong enough to fight him gets thrown out the window once you realise how weak Ganon actually is (granted, you still have to approach Ganon to find this out, and many people don't until they feel they've beaten most of the game anyway). Personally, I liked the dungeons, but in the grand scheme of things they take little time compared to the time you'll likely spend exploring and just generally wandering around the landscape, making them feel like an afterthought rather than a goal as well.

I'd say that they perfected the design of the world and it feeling lively and interactive, yet at the same time it feels quiet and often barren or meaningless. It's difficult for me to explain why, but it's still fun.

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>Crashes every few hours, really not a big deal

PCfags so used to nonexistent quality control they think this is normal. You can't make this shit up.

>>382322653
I rate this post a 8/8

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>>382323225
considering you cant play it more then hours on the switch, one crash every few hours is not that bad

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>>382315853
No

its still better than Horizon though