Put out flaws please.

threads about it on /v/

Dreamers weren't bosses.

>>382301702
Aye, but I'm a lazy piece of shit. Sorry Anon.

Actually fighting the enemies is really boring and uninspired

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>>382301652
Is not

White Palace is a really shit area that feels out of place and makes no sense.

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>>382301765
pretty much, also the 'true ending' is pretty ass.

combat never really evolves and becomes repetitive. Since game is pretty long this becomes pretty apparent before youve even seen a lot of the content.
the mapping system
limited color palette makes areas feel very samey
most badges you find are pretty lame and kind of reduces the value of exploration once you find the decent ones.
tries too hard to be cutedark

>>382302056
What's wrong with it? I found it very cool.

What do people have against the artstyle anyways? I think it's amazing.

>>382301652
deepnest was laggy

>>382302774
there's nothing wrong with the artstyle, who said that?
there is some questionable design choices, that is true, but the art is pretty good

>>382302905
>who said that?
I see people complain about it every thread. Then again it might just be the shitposters are latch on to them for some reason.

>>382301652
needs more porn desu

>>382302056
The true ending was hype as shit. The fuck you on about?

<your brothers flying after the light in the background.

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>"hey /v/ I'm kind of a pussy about insects, does hollow knight have any gross spiders or shit in it?"
>"nah dude it's fine"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

When does the Switch version come out?

>>382302951
My only complaint about the artstyle is people say it's better and more driverse than Ori which is outright horseshit. Honestly on /v/ Hollow Knight's biggest enemy is its fans.

>>382303879
I haven't even played Ori so I won't comment on that, but while I admire HK for any aspects I won't overplay it. I just enjoy it for what it is and don't understand why people, fans and haters alike, get so autistic over it.

>>382301652
The shills constantly peddling this crap on /v/

>>382302313
>combat never really evolves and becomes repetitive.
The entirety of Castlevania's combat is grind until you can kill a boss in 3 shot and one shot everything else.

HK was basically Megaman X combat in a Metroidvania game, which is what make it the best game in the genre.

HK combat is fast paced and fluid, doesn't let you cheese the game with grinding. Even with your end game sword you still get butt rape by True end boss if you just go in swinging.

Healing is another nice touch since it's not instantaneous and it's not free.

The game rely entirely on skill, not strong weapon, not stat, not stockpiling 999 healing potion in your inventory which you can eat while pausing the game.

>>382302045
Don't you talk shit on my favorite area. First of all its optional, and secondly coupled with trial of fools there are two challenges to test your mastery movement and platforming and of combat.

>>382303534

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHY DOES EVERYTHING NEED TO HAVE SPIDERS, FUCK

>>382303879
I've played and beaten both and I like HK's art style more than Ori's. But that's just my opinion.

It runs like shit in my toaster,I can run Dark Souls 3 on low but a fucking 2d games lags like hell

Fuck this shit poorly optimized game

>>382304282
thats nice and all but it still becomes repetitive

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The game was kinda easy once I got the Radiant Jewel charm.

>>382304282
>HK was basically Megaman X combat in a Metroidvania game

confirmed never playing megaman x

>>382302951
>>382302905
>>382302774
It's just overly simplistic which has led to the homogenization of animation in the recent past. But that's never the medium's fault, people gobble it up and praise two black dots for eyes on a white blank mask because people like simple shit. It's just the way of life.

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>>382304628
That's not a thing though.

>>382304981
It's simple design-wise but that doesn't mean it's not detailed art-wise. Besides, who said all art needs to be hyperrealistic?

When you enter an area, even if you only enter and leave right way, it adds everything to your map.

Too many vertical shit, when you're backtracking you need to keep jumping multiple platforms to get somewhere even if it's just a straight line on the same.

Combat is shit, nails arts are shit too, both mostly because of the stupid knock back on hit, no new weapons.
>but you can use a charm to remove that

Charms are shit forcing you to use a slot on things that should be there by default like seeing where you are on the map and no knock back on hit and things that would be better separate like the modifications on the spells allowing for a better customization.

That's all i can remember.

HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT THE BROODING MAWLEK

WHAT THE FUCK

>>382301652
Is this game the Matthewmatosis of video games on /v/?

>>382305024
Post more birds

it's weird, but I always feel like half of the people posting in these threads are like...people trying hard to seem like regular everyday /v/ posters.

something just seems off. whether its the language they use, the random posturing about how cool the game is, or even the questions they ask (that are immediately answered by someone with intimate knowledge of this game).

shoo uncanny valley shills shoo

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>>382305662

>>382301652
The only flaw I can find is that it will never be as good as Aria of Sorrow. Still a 10/10 game though.

>>382301652
Colleseum sections suck, map system is equal parts good and bad. Some charms are literal no brainers like nail length or fast healing. otherwise it's pretty damn good. Not the 2nd coming like some people here believe.

>>382304446
Preferring one style to the other is different. To claim Hallow Knight outshines Ori graphically is objectively wrong.

>>382305797
Are you new to these threads? It's mostly been a falseflaggers spamming these threads so /v/ can have their usual kneejerk "shill" reaction to them.

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>>382305797
>that are immediately answered by someone with intimate knowledge of this game
You mean like....someone who has played the game ?

>>382306053
Well given that Ori had a tremendously bigger budget, team, and development time than Hollow Knight; you would think that it would have better production value.

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>>382305998
>Longnail is a no brainer
>Magic is a better strategy than melee for most fights

>>382306150
>You mean like....someone who has played the game ?

like someone who asks a question and then answers themselves.

>>382301652
>Gameplay
unintuitive and unresponsive controls, press left once on my gamepad, characters goes left for a second instead of walking left like I want it to
>healing takes forever and can't be used in combat without actually waiting for a tactical pause or use a trinket to speed up the charge, making me waste a slot so I'm forced to decide whether or not to take it, making me think about what I am to face etc.
>music is absolutely calm and at times unnerving. it may fit the game's setting very well but I was looking forward to some D44M like tunes to squash bugs to
>backtracking is a chore, they should really change up the scenery and introduce some new element after you went through an area for nth million time
>best ending is a chore, making me scour every inch of the game, and getting at least somewhat invested so I know what the ingame descriptions are talking about so I'll know where to to unlock the next part of the ending, they should have included quest markers for this

That's all I got for you OP

>>382305998
That's why I love how they did charms. Personally I'd never take fast-healing or nail length when I could have magic-buffing charms.

>>382305410
which part gets you? it's very possible to not get hit once from it

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>>382305998
>he needs "fast healing"
How about you just not get hit

>>382306474
You might have a broken controller my man. You shouldn't walk for a second when you hit left. Unless its some animation thing you're complaining about and exaggerating the actual time. The controls always felt really tight and responsive to me.

>>382304282
>every game is a JRPG

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>>382306474
>Game makes think when I fight instead of just letting me spam heal

>>382306474
>healing takes forever
git gud
>music is absolutely calm and at times unnerving
personal problem
>backtracking is a chore
it wouldnt be if you used the quickpoints/didn't die
>best ending is a chore
not sure didn't finish yet

Small bossfights suck
Usually have 3 atttacks and one of them is irrelevant

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>>382306474
Not sure if this is a valid complaint post or a satirical post pointing out the strong points of the game...

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>>382301652
White Palace, while fun, was some out of place shit that really shouldn't have been part of the main story and more of a side-mission deal.
Backtracking was horrible after the infection spread as it blocked certain paths FOR NO FUCKING REASON.
Bugs that ruined my experience somewhat as I couldn't get the arena rewards and 100% it.
Dreamers weren't bosses.
I think they patched some things out between versions as in my game I could enter certain areas by cheesing background objects and not needing an upgrade but the same objects weren't in my friend's game when I was observing him on steam.
Some things felt like they had no purpose, like the spider place. (I know that's for Hornet but I found out later after exploring the entire place like an autist.)
A lot of NPC's that seemed cool were only there for LORE.

Not any severe complaints but I would've loved if it had more content and it did more stuff with its NPC's. Lots of the fights were cool, fun, and a case of GIT GUD. Nothing really made me go "THAT'S BULLSHIT" and the gladiator area was pretty fun, especially the part where you can't touch the floor. I guess getting stuff for the true ending was annoying as well but that's true endings in general.

>>382306932
mushroom ending literally is a chore though. just watch the cutscene on youtube it's not worth doing it

>>382307471
Isn't White Palace completely optional

>>382304693
It's only repetitive if you stuck to one fighting style. There were a few major ways to doing things. I personally went in with rapid attacks while my friend focused on charging attacks. There's one defensive build for shitters and another that uses soul attacks. Between the length of the game and learning how to fight monsters there's not really much time for things to get repetitive if you learn at least one other fighting style later on. Think it was around 20 hrs where I could kill everything without completely fucking up, bosses aside, but I never switched styles.
>>382307689
Technically. You can get bad and neutral ending with it but not the true ending. I meant it more as in it not being part of the story since it really felt like it clashed with the general look and feel of the game as a whole. I mean it wasn't really hard, just trial and error. Would've liked something that was actually difficult and had a desperate king feel to it instead of feeling like I entered the mind of the antagonist from Saw.

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PLAYING WITH THE KEYBOARD FUCKING SUCKS REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>382308014
m8 get steam controller, it's super cheap right now

Rabi Ribi did it better

>>382307975
Hollowshill autist is back

>Awful combat
>Actual gameplay is extremely basic
>Not a lot of progression, especially meaningful progression
>Apes mechanics from Rabi Ribi, like the charm system, and by extension the mario RPGs
>Apes Dark Souls aesthetically, thematically, and gameplay-wise
>Does nothing new for the genre
>Endlessly shilled by bug-fuckers
>Awfully placed stag stations making you walk like 30 minutes to get to wherever the fuck you want (don't act like this isn't a problem, they're literally addressing this in the next update by adding new means of fast travel)

>>382301652
>Semi-frequent "adjustments" to charms, boss health, enemy placements, etc are kind of ridiculous and unnecessary for a single player game. People shit on Edmund for nerfing shit in BoI. Why should HK get a pass?
>Dreamers were a massive disappointment
I know they're supposed to be weak because of plot but its still shit
>Boss refights are a little hard to find without knowing about it beforehand
The only way they are shown to you is if you have the dream nail before fighting vessel which is likely, but not guaranteed. I don't think its mentioned ingame at all
>Dark Souls similarities are a bit much all memes aside

True ending is kind of a pain in the ass considering the dreamnail has to be awoken to even see the white palace entrance. Guy should have the dream particles around him and the game should tell you its not strong enough to work on him or something pre-awakening

>>382308253
ur mum m8
>>382308343
>This bait
Only genuine thing you have is the very last one but the reasons for the stag placement is lore-friendly but yeah, it's frustrating towards the end. Everything else is literal opinions or buzzwords like "meaningful progression" that means nothing unless you define it and give an example as there's plenty of progressions via abilities, charms, and health/damage/soul boosts. I mean how the fuck is "nothing new for a genre" even a con? Not like the genre HK is in had games coming out the ass like CoD has nor is it a rehash of a previous game.

There is a strange lag when you hit something
its like a quarter of a second when it happens and im pretty sure its the physics engine freaking out

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>>382301765
>mfw i got 90% completion before even looking for the dreamers because i expected them to be tough bosses

>>382301652
The whole game looks the same no variations in art or environments.

>>382306474
>tap left
>character slightly goes left
????

sometimes my character would just start walking with no input, or refuse to stop. If that's what you meant then turn off vsync, it should help

>>382310586
Same. It's mostly from my mentality of making sure I do as much as I can in case I hit a point-of-no-return. HK is cool for not having any of that

>>382308668
>Not like the genre HK is in had games coming out the ass
It does, though. Picked up La-Mulana and Valdis Story during the sale because of these threads and now my discovery queue is throwing ten thousand indie metroidvanias at me a day.

>tfw tried doing the third Colosseum challenge before I even found the double jump
That's an hour and a half of my life I'll never get back

>>382301652
Stag station placement is kind of ass
being able to see yourself on the map should be a thing by default (they could replace that with a charm that allows you to zoom in on the map and see a detailed rendition of the level layout or something like that)
no secret option to marry Bretta
and like everyone else said, Dreamer's weren't bosses

>>382301652
Hidden Dreams isn't out yet.

>>382310967
That's only two. The genre isn't still-born like RTS are but it's nowhere near the level of even fighters. I wouldn't go as far as to call it unpopular, because it's not, but it's relatively untapped. Think it gets 1 game a year on average? At least their quality is pretty good. Could be wrong. Maybe I only hear about the shitty ones.

Did Hollow Knight create a new genre - Megamanvania

>>382313208
it created an even better new genre - kinovania

>>382301652
you could not fuck the the lady bug.

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>>382313263
woa h

>>382301652
It's a shit, uninspired, boring "muh lore" game

>>382304339

Optional in a way that locks you out of one of the endings. As opposed to the Trial of Fools, which is actually just bragging rights.

Plus, setting-wise Trial of Fools works perfectly. It's a big arena of people killing each other and assholes laughing at them, so putting you through a bunch of cheap and difficult traps is very fitting. The White Palace feels like it should have some cool lore/story significance, and we're treated to 20 rooms of floating sawblades. They could have put that challenge somewhere else and made the Palace feel like an actual place.

>>382303027

Of who?

>>382303534
It has tons of spiders, like those parasites that take over corpses

>>382314743
anyone that isn't hornet

>>382301652
Can someone recommend how to beat teleporting bugs faster on the way to Soul Master?

>>382315090
You can shoot them. There's a soul refill right before the boss

>>382314334
>putting you through a bunch of cheap and difficult traps is very fitting

It seemed that's what they were going for when there were jumping enemies killing themselves over a spike pit

>>382304441
Why so scared of spiders?

So many fucking pussies REEEEEEEE

>>382301652

-I'm often confused by where I end up when I hit spikes/acid. Sometimes it was right next to where I took damage, sometimes it's way back near the area entrance, sometimes it's on a platform I didn't even land on, etc. The only area it felt reliable was the White Palace (thankfully) but anywhere else it was a crapshoot.
-I'm not sure if the input delay/drops are a meme. At first I felt like I must just be imagining it, but then I saw the complaint every HK thread. I find it hard to imagine that, for one game, tons of people have faulty controllers all of the sudden. Not a huge issue, but noticeable.
-I don't like some of the vertical platforming because you don't get a very good view of what's above and below you with the camera. Yes, there's a look up/down, but that's slow and not very fun to use. I remember plenty of areas where you just had to look down, jump down to the only safe platform you can see, look down, jump down to the only one you can see, etc.
-The hunters journal is a pretty bad sidequest. Finding all the enemies is cool, but the "kill X" requirement is unnecessary and tedious, especially when many enemies don't respawn unless you sit at a bench.
-While I like the healing system overall, one flaw with it is that it's very easy to get from point A to point B with no real change in your character's overall status. You could start a level with full health and soul, and get back to the boss with full health and soul, even taking damage many times along the way. Comparing it to something like Estus, let's say you start with 7 estus, take some damage on the way to the boss, and drink 2. Now you only have 5 for the boss, so your failings in the level make you less prepared for the boss. In a lot of areas of Hollow Knight, I get off the bench in the same state as when I arrive at the bossdoor regardless of how much I fucked up, which makes the trek seem less worthwhile, like they might as well have made the checkpoint next to the boss.

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>>382303534
>Arachnophobia
>Still want to fuck those spiders

>>382316063
Estus healing would make the game more about surviving. The game seems to focus more on overcoming the individual combat encounters. Where healing during a fight is hard, but easy with all the fodder enemies when you aren't in combat