Melee

>>382286530
Melee is an overrated game for faggots.

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>>382286530
Melee is a fun game, but a shit game.
It is also a 16 year old game.

Most of the people who talk about it aren't any good at it nor do they play it.

My thoughts are you all need to fucking let go of melee.

How is watching the same 6 autists play for YEARS AND YEARS that much fun?

>b-but amsa will totally win this time I swear!

>>382286686
You would know.

>>382286530
Totally irrelevant to my playstyle but it seems fair to me

>>382286671
>>382286686
>>382286746
No
>>382286764
You can go away too Puff main

>>382286873
shit broken game

>>382286873
fuck you man I main bowser. I got enough problems with my fat shitty main, don't need nerds like you talking shit too

>>382286530
Either play a broken 16 year old game or move on to pm imo

>>382286910
ok

Lotta fags in this thread

What's the mod actually do? I watch tourneys every now and then but don't keep up with the scene

>>382287061
you mean legacy xp

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>>382287217
>"Lotta fags in this thread"
>"I don't actually play Melee, I'm just a spectator."
I can only see one fag in this thread, Anon.
Can you spot him?

It's you.

>>382287217
Gamecube controllers are shit and inconsistent, this mod fixes so of the issues.

>>382287434
I never said I didn't play it, retard
I said I don't keep up with the scene.

I play for fun :-)))

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>>382286873
>no

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>>382287448
>Gamecube controllers are shit and inconsistent
Actually, you're describing Melee as a whole.

>>382287559
>I play for fun :-)))
He just keeps digging his grave deeper and deeper.

>>382287061
>move on to pm
If a only a nintendo wasn't a horrible company that shut it down while refusing to release a good version of smash bros themselves.

>>382288295
Yeah because Nintendo is so bad for releasing a Smash game that doesn't rely on lame glitches and a cast where not even half of it is viable, right?

Melee is 16 years old. Move on.

Please, I beg of you smash players. Stop attending events that offer other fighting games. You fucking smelly goblins reek of raw sewage and liquid shit and take up so much room. Each of you fuckos might as well have a megaphone taped to your mouth since you're all so fucking loud. Fuck smash players, especially melee.

>>382288295
>If a only a nintendo wasn't a horrible company that shut it down
Nintendo never shut anything down.
The PM development team was afraid they might get hit by a lawsuit.
You must be 18 years or older to browse 4chan.

>>382288803
>lame glitches

>>382289465
>Tournaments lose sponsorship's and revenue if they stream/promote PM.
>Can't stream on twitch because of based Nintendo
>Nintendo nearly cancelled EVO 2013

Nintendo does it again! Haha I love taking it up the ass, but only if based Nintendo does it!

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>>382289750
>Tournaments lose sponsorship's and revenue if they stream/promote PM.
>Can't stream on twitch because of based Nintendo
>Nintendo nearly cancelled EVO 2013
Nintendo rarely sponsors tournaments as is and PM has survived up till this day without any more updates, without any more promotion, and without being on Twitch.

And you want to know why? Because it's a good mod. It's a great mod. It's so much better than Melee and no other game can offer that.

You can still catch Project M streams on other sites if you actually follow Project M. Which I personally find to be a good thing because Twitch and spectators are cancer, keep it a secret club.

When most people think of Project M's "death" they think about the cease of development.
If you really fucking consider a game not being on Twitch "dying" then you should do everybody a favor and stick with Melee.

And P.S.
>Haha I love taking it up the ass
Your faggotry has nothing to do with this.

>>382288803
That game is casual trash and is filled with cancerous brawl mechanics like momentum from running not translating to jumps.
>>382289465
>muh based nintendo didn't shut it down they just banned it from everything and intimidated the developers into ceasing development or sent a cease and desist + gag order

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>>382291016
>casual trash
>only Melee player that could get any good at it was Mew2king and he quit
>Hungrybox was humiliated and he passively aggressively calls it a "dumb game" whenever he mentions it
Sure thing, bud.

>they just banned it from everything
Yeah, because Nintendo FORCED them into accepting their advertisement deal.
God knows they would have turned down a sponsorship from Nintendo if not for how big, burly, and scary the company is.
Speaking of big, burly, scary Nintendo.

>and intimidated the developers into ceasing development
Yeah, they just stood there menacingly and forced them to stop.
It's not like they're not utilizing the IPs of other companies.
Not like Solid Snake is in this game or anything. Konami would never threaten anybody with legal action, they're way too nice.

>>382286530
Magus, legendary smash modder far bigger than achilles and dan salvato, called the dash back code trash and fundamentally breaking the game. I agree with him.
Leffen, top 5 player, called the angles trash, and I agree with him.

>>382286746
theres more to melee than just grandfinals

>>382292032
I agree with Leffen but what makes the backdash code trash?

>>382292139
intercepting inputs and delaying them is stupid when you can just change the way the game handles dash back.

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>>382291872
In conclusion (in case you bother replying while I'm away).
Nintendo is to blame for anything bad to have ever happened in the universe.

And because they own Twitch and banned it from the platform, you'd rather spend money on a; CRT, Gamecube, 1 in 100 Gamecube controller, and a copy of Melee for an inferior experience over simply installing homebrew on your Wii, which even a limbless retard could do, for a better game.

>>382292123
>theres more to melee than just grandfinals
yeah, watching the top 6 destroy everyone in the top 20 is soooo fun. melee has huge gaps in skill level, you can argue that it's the fighting game with the biggest skill gap between players.

>>382291872
Mew2king is probably the only one who even tried to get good at it.
>Konami would never threaten anybody with legal action
Has Konami ever threatened legal action over a mod? I don't even think EA has done such a thing.

>>382292547
hey now i'm sure some other old stagnant piece of shit has bigger skill gaps than melee

just mod the game to get consistent dash backs and shield drops, anything else if fluff and ultimately unneeded

>>382292547
Yeah thats why leffen lost in round 1 top 64. Just made it out of pools.
Also
>top 6
grandpa its top 5

Explain to me why people still circle jerk over this game. This isn't bait, I'm genuinely curious.

>>382292887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B05DVqBUTBs

>>382287759
You're easily 12

>>382286764
>seems fair
>fair
>Fair
Hah.

>>382292751
>grandpa its top 5
Armada, Hbox, Mang0, Mew2king, Leffen, Plup.

Tafo pointed out that Plup has the best record against the top 20, so even though he doesn't have the chances against the top 5, he cucks most players in the top 20. And like I mentioned, it's not fun to watch the top 6 rekt everyone in the top 20. Just for Armada or Hbox to win.

>>382292676
I personally really like the 1.0 speed.
I can definitely feel it.
It just makes melee a bit faster, so more fun.

>>382292887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIsTgPo71Kc

>>382293038
That has got to be the cringiest thing ever.

>>382293176
Plup cant win a major and is another literal who. Sfat is better. Whens the last time Plup has been in grandfinals with gods or more in attendance.
There is no top 6. Until sfat wins a major its gonna be top 5.

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>>382288803

>>382293350
*3 gods or more in attendance

>>382293350
>Plup cant win a major and is another literal who.
I'm not disagreeing with that, it's just that he rapes everyone that isn't a god. He cucks people like sfat, who have a better chance against the top 5.

The only guy that has a better record against the top 20 might be Armada.

>>382293264
Seriously, that's it? After hearing Melee hyped up for all these years, that just seems, boring.

>>382293659
You didn't even watch all of it.
>>382293631
well yea
most of the top 20 rarely ever gets a chance to face Armada due to seeding too.

>>382293659
If you don't find that match interesting it's just not appealing to you

To each their own

>>382290576
>If you really fucking consider a game not being on Twitch "dying" then you should do everybody a favor and stick with Melee.

Not him, but I started on PM and moved over to Melee because I wanted to be able to find players you stupid faggot.

>>382292654
>Has Konami ever threatened legal action over a mod?

>What is In The Groove

and it was its very own built engine and code and they still got with a suit and lost because arrows

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>>382295223
>Not him, but I started on PM and moved over to Melee because I wanted to be able to find players you stupid faggot.
Not my fucking problem your local scene plays shit games, cock sucker.

Grow some fucking balls and actually search for them.
Discord is a thing, locals are a thing, I'm sure there's some ladder for ants where people play or some shit.

>>382295423
Why play PM when melee is just strictly a better game? The Hax mod fixes the only bad things about it.

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>>382286746
I would rather watch grand masters play a game perfectly (melee) than watch negroid children playing in a sand box (SFV)

>>382295423
SEETHING

>>382286530
So can someone give me a quick rundown on what these mods actually are? I know about the dashback and shield drop mods, but what does this "angle" mod actually do?

>>382295423
Someone's mad their character is shit and can't play Melee worth a damn.

I get you, though, I had some pains dealing with the loss of buffs that Falcon had in PM but I got over it and moved to a game with an actual playerbase.

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>>382295686
There's this angle in melee that's right besides the cardinal points (up,down,left,right).
It's a small smidget but if you hit that angle you get maximum distance wavedashes/ledgedashes (luigi goes like 60% of fd in a single perfect wavedash) and super steep Firefox angles that allow you to instantly grab ledge (since you're going down technically).
The danger of this amazing tech is that if you miss the angle you get a full horizontal input which yields a horizontal airdodge leaving you like a sitting duck.

Hax's angle mod makes it so the perfect value "bleeds" into the cardinal area, so it's extremely easy to hit.

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>>382295578
>when melee is just strictly a better game?
Yeah, you're right.
Keep playing Melee.

>The Hax mod fixes the only bad things about it.
Just keep playing Melee and never look back.
Please.

>>382295640
HOT HOT EFFECT

>>382295731
>Captain Falcon player
Entire arguments, invalidated.

>>382293631
>might be Armada
are you retarded

>>382296143
I played PM and just couldn't like it.
Floaties are not properly balanced and the entire game is a gimmick-fest matchup maze.

>>382296143
>ACTUALLY NOT LIKING THE CAP

explains why you have such shit taste

>>382295993
Sounds unnecessary at first glance. It's not really an inconsistency problem like dashbacks or shield drops is it?

>>382296143
>this assblasted

No one cares about your shitty mod and Ninty nuked whatever popularity it had gotten and was going to get. Stay free.

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>>382296305
>Captain Falcon
This is fine.

>Captain Falcon player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofbUaseSiKc

Hello yes FGC calling yeah please stop taking up 2 spots at our majors while having extremely successful majors of your own, okay? Thanks. Fuck you too!

>>382296262
>gimmick-fest matchup maze
t. someone who last played 3.0

Anyways, learning more than fucking 3 or 4 matchups is common in any fighting game that isnt absolutely busted.

>>382296369
No. Hitting the angle is not random, just really hard.
It's balanced due to risk/reward.
The biggest problem with the mod is that if people get used to said angle it becomes literally impossible to even wavedash properly without the mod. The modded angle bleeds hardcore into the cardinals.

>>382296251
*is Armada

I would've fixed my post if I could (edit it), but it's pointless since it was obvious.

>>382296443
>It's a Pit Main getting mad his twink character can't be played in a competently-designed fighting engine episode

Any predictions for EVO?

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>>382296562
If I play an FGC title like GG I know that X move is -/+ frames on block across the ENTIRE CAST.
On Smash %, DI, SDI, weight, gravity, throw advantage, fall speed, hurtbox size, etc fucks everything up and makes follow ups and shit like chaingrabs so MU specific.

You really can't compare the two.

>>382296443
>That UpB at 1:05

Jesus, forgot how unforgiving Melee was.

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>>382296764
Hbox vs Armada gf

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>>382296719
>Pit Main
There's just no good images of Lucas.

>>382296924
If this happens I'm done with smash for good. If Hbox even makes it to GFs i'm done. I'll pick up guilty gear or some shit

>>382296764
Anyone but Hbox or Armada please.
Mang0 probably has the best shot if he doesn't lose to someone before top 8.

>>382297074
Don't worry, Chu is there with his YL to lose game 1 free. So yeah, it'll probably happen.

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>lets mod 17 year old game to make it easier because my controller can't perform this technique the top players do with their controllers!

kid, if you aren't getting to top 16, finding a controller that perfectly shield drops isn't a problem for you.

It's just the melee community being autistic as fuck and trying to make a problem out of nothing; and I really like playing melee.

>>382286530
I'm fine with it. But it feels like most players are so afraid of change that they would sooner ban it, no matter how much it improved the game. If Melee HD came out tomorrow with lagless online, but a few well deserved buffs to low tiers, these people would burn down the Nintendo HQ.

>>382296823
>Compares frames on block, to landing a combo.

You know GG has character specific combos too right?

>>382297328
Yes, but I'm mostly talking about defense.
If I'm fighting a Sol I know what I have to do defensively to get out of pressure cause it's universal.
DI and followups are so different on character per character in smash it becomes a mess with so many characters.

>tfw my local has more n64 players than pm players

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>>382297247
Dashback missing is literally a bug due to polling analog issues. Right now it's a one frame input that the game can randomly decide to ignore if it feels like it.
Even the top 5 want it fixed.

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>>382297573
>people would rather play the worst entry in the franchise and not have to face the fact they suck over actually putting time and effort into the best one
Huh.

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>>382297276
>If Melee HD came out tomorrow with lagless online, but a few well deserved buffs to low tiers, these people would burn down the Nintendo HQ.

>>382297276
>If Melee HD came out tomorrow with lagless online, but a few well deserved buffs to low tiers, these people would burn down the Nintendo HQ.
They would just ignore it.
Melee HD and lagless online sounds nice, but don't touch balance and you'll be fine.
Low tiers don't need to be fixed.

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>>382297681
so it's an unreliable technique you shouldn't depend on? there's RNG in tons of games. is this considered bad rng? like come on now, the top five will do whatever they can to make their characters better, too.

it baffles me how the melee community embraces glitches and bugs but then wants to fix this one.

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>>382297975
>don't touch balance and you'll be fine.
>Low tiers don't need to be fixed.
This is how Melee players actually think.

>>382297823
>Worst entry in the franchise
Brawl?

>>382298196
Yes, it's bad RNG.
It has nothing to do with the game, it's a bug at hardware level. That's like trying to backdash in Guilty gear and instead just standing there doing nothing for 7 frames randomly.
No glitches or bugs are used on gameplay (the only one applicable is banned cause it takes control away from the oppoonent), only exploits.

There's also plenty of good RNG in melee, and nobody complains about that.

Do not speak if you don't anything.

>>382286530
I remember melee fondly but don't play it. I like sm4sh and I play it on both wiiu and 3ds. Fite me.

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>>382298471
>Brawl?
But how can Brawl be the worst if it spawned Project M?

>>382298442
Perfect balance is a dream that cannot be achieved.
No game has ever even been close. The best you can hope for is for your top tiers to be fun to play and have a lot of counterplay between each other, which melee has.

>>382298196
>it baffles me how the melee community embraces glitches and bugs

It baffles me that people think that Melee is the only game that ever did this.

>16 years on and /v/ is STILL asshurt that Melee is the most popular and boasts the highest skill ceiling of the Smash franchise games

kek

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>>382298671
>Perfect balance is a dream that cannot be achieved.
>So we should throw the concept out the window even if all it would take to make a character usable is a bigger shield.
If you're a falseflagger, you're a damn good one.

>>382299079
All of the low tiers need a ton of rework to be even remotely viable.
Zelda is literally unplayable. Not even PM was able to make her decent. Some designs are just broken.

>>382299056
>is the most popular
Correct.

>boasts the highest skill ceiling
I guess.

>is a horrible game
Yep, that's Melee.

>>382298557
it's hasn't been a problem for 17 years but now it is, really makes you think.

And don't tell me people weren't shield dropping in the early days because I saw dr. peepee do it in person.

>>382299218
That post probably looked better in your head.

>>382299283
The meta has advanced to the point people get openings for brutal punishes OR escape punishes thanks to missed dashbacks.
Yes, it's a problem NOW

>>382299358
Looks fine to me.

>>382298971
It's only a bug when melee does it, otherwise it's an intended feature.

>>382286945
Bowser most def benefits from more consistent shield drops and backdashes my man

>>382299218

>is a horrible game

Explain, without the use of memes, how Melee is horrible.

I'll wait.

>>382299372
NO it isn't an issue.

a player can simply decide not to put themself in a position where they "have" dashback, or use one the many other movement options besides dashback.

why can't people just play the fucking game and make adjustments? this argument is full on retarded.

>>382299438
>is a horrible game
>yep, that's melee
Pretty cringy my guy

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>>382299283
>tfw as DK my brutal punish game is all I have
>I get a grab on Fox, oh boi here we go
>the game decides to cuck me out of my 0 to death when a Fox SDIs my uair regrab behind me and my dashback gets eaten, making me miss by backgrab
Even shitty characters benefit from it.

Project M is my favorite because I like how Wario and King Dedede play.

>>382299572
No, fuck you. I shouldn't need to have a super rare controller for the game not to fuck me randomly.
>not to dashback
Dashing make up more than half of melee's gameplay. Dashback is extremely intrinsic to melee.

>>382289369
Sounds like a problem you should talk to your TOs about.

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>>382299164
>All of the low tiers need a ton of rework to be even remotely viable.
>Zelda is literally unplayable.
The thing is, somebody already fixed her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6C_pmsEBO8

>But she's still not viable
And that's fine.

>Then what's the point?
Well she goes from being literally unplayable to playable.

Like you said, perfect balance isn't a thing. But the least you could do is make a character enjoyable to use.

You do realize that if Melee HD was ever a thing, it wouldn't be strictly for the current competitive Melee players, right?
Even if you kept the characters exactly the same, the game would probably still have other differences.

If you really want Melee HD, as in the game you are currently playing, but with slightly better graphics, there's a mod for that.

>>382300084
>posting magicscrumpshit
Opinion literally discarded.
He stole all his changes from SD Remix, and even then Zelda is shit.

>>382299742
no, fuck you. a controller that can shield drop isn't even that rare. all of mine can.
>Dashback is extremely intrinsic to melee
come on now, dash isn't the same as dashback, and you are retarded if you think it is extremely intrinsic.

again you should just make the adjustment and play the fucking party game.

>>382299742
Why don't you stop playing an unfinished shit game then?

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>>382300173
Okay.

>>382300201
I already said like 4 times.
ITS A HARDWARE BUG.
Holy shit it's the console's fault.
People fix those.

>>382299535
>Severe balancing issues
>Glitches (Luigi, Pokemon Stadium, serious gamebreaking glitches)
>Rushed characters
>Chaingrabs
>Analog Sticks
>The players themselves

>>382301042
this guy has a point, but analog sticks are really important for the game.

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You melee faggots will never learn. A few years ago NONE of you had any idea of these issues with the controllers and Melee was played just fine - then after a few threads about MUHCONTROLLERSRNOTPERFECT you're all going batshit crazy. Just drop this dead game, it's for losers and you've all been sucking off these "5gods" for the past how many years? Come on now autists just let it go you cannot fix this shitty game.

>>382301042

>serious gamebreaking glitches

no such thing

>>382296823
Every move in melee is the same on block against any character too though

>>382292676
this

>>382286530
Melee has developed too far.
>You have to use specific makes of controllers to shield drop and backdash consistently, and get perfect cardinal directions.
No, we just need a new Melee.
I hope project Wavedash turns out well, but it has
>F O R C E D D I V E R S I T Y
so I wouldn't count on it.

i feel bad for people that aren't good at melee. they'll never know what it's like.

>>382301143

>dead game

Didn't realize that the game being more popular now than it's ever been = dead

Really puts my cognition in ignition

>>382297247
Shield drops can be important at any level of play my friend.

>>382301431
lmao

>>382292369
Uh you know I can play melee on a modded wii too, which by the way, you still want a CRT to play on.

>>382301431
tons of top players weren't even doing shield drops a year or two ago, retard.

>>382301143
Competitive melee is the exact opposite of dead right now, there's more people going to tournaments than ever

>>382301759
Yes but now they are, and the guy who can do it more consistently is going to do better.
It wasn't an issue when no one knew about it, but issues develop as collective approaches to the game change. That's literally what a meta is, and it's why "we didn't used to have that problem" is not a satisfactory answer.

>>382302057
no, this argument is stupid. I used to top 4 at my local vs people who shield dropped. I beat a lot of people who shield drop.

there are top players that still don't shield drop, tons of them.

it's really irrelevant until top 8 play.

What is it about Melee that triggers /v/ so hard? Is it the fact that a 16-year old party game has more depth and a higher skill ceiling than any traditional fighter ever made?

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>>382301042
Also, the fact that any sort of "balance" was achieved only through community efforts.
And considering how unbalanced the game currently is, that just goes to show how much of a "fighting game" Melee really is.

>>382301342
Just because you refuse to look at them or that the community has agreed upon not using them doesn't mean they're not there, friend.

Mario and Luigi's box glitch.
Marth's animations messing up when Wispy Woods blinks. (Not particularly game breaking, but definitely can lose a stock to this if your opponent capitalizes)
Pokemon Stadium eating you alive
Freeze Glitch might be banned, but it's still there.

And there's probably a lot more I don't know about.

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>>382302365
RPS 101 has more depth and requires more skill than Melee.
Melee might take years to destroy your hands, but you'll surely develop arthritis playing this.

>>382302337
Let me be more specific, a person who has hardware that lets them shield drop more consistently will be better than a player of equal skill without the hardware, and this is relevant at more levels than just the highest level. This is relevant to the post I am replying to because I am not saying that shield dropping will allow you to beat any player you couldn't beat before.

What local did you used to play in?

>>382302701
>a person who has hardware that lets them shield drop more consistently will be better than a player of equal skill without the hardware

honestly, this just sounds like an excuse for being bad. mango doesn't even shield drop often. the difference between not shield dropping and shield dropping is so irrelevant.

>>382303105
Is that an incorrect premise, though?

How can you label anyone as a god if they need mechanical assistance to play at their level? In a real fighting game you would get banned for having a rigged controller

>>382303267
sure, a person with a controller that can shield drop is better off than someone who can't

but this is a myth that the controllers that shield drop are hard to find, or that shield dropping is someone a huge hindrance to someone's skill. you guys really take this game too serious for people who won't even make it out of pools.

>>382303105
In a game where two players are of equal skill the player with more options has an advantage over the player with less options.

>>382303331
In a real fighting game you have multiple controller options and functioning sticks.

>>382303331
Those nicknames are older and more contextual than that. The old GOAT (Ken) was "The King of Smash" So "Gods of Smash" is meant to just be playing off of that.

>>382303423
>you guys really take this game too serious for people who won't even make it out of pools.
None of this meta discussion matter for those people.

Not even the viability of a character in high level play matters against those people.
They're only there to fill the pot.

>>382303423
I don't think anyone is implying that it's hard to shield drop my dude, only that a more forgiving window will allow someone to do it more consistently. Please stop assigning bad arguments you've previously that I'm not making to me.

>>382303607
I guess melee players really are autistic, I like to give most of them the benefit of the doubt...

>>382303494
>In a game where two players are of equal skill the player with more options has an advantage over the player with less options.

I said, IT IS IRRELEVANT

>>382286530
I didnt like the wavedashes at first but I got used to them, I can see how it'd fuck with peoples muscle memory though. considering that this will never become standard though I probably will not use it so as to not fuck up my play. I absolutely love the easier shield drops and 1.0 dashing though, sad it cant become standard but its just NOT going to happen. This community has the worst case of fucking purism.

>>382303750
Wow very compelling

>>382286530
Meme.

Anyone going to GOML?

>>382288803
>Melee is 16 years old. Move on
But Melee hasn't gotten a sequel, anon.

>>382293659
what kind of games do you like, anon?

>>382288803
Melee scratches an itch that no other game has done quite as well (for me at least.)
I'll happily move on if something better comes along, but it's videogames, it's something I do in my leisure time, and I don't really understand why it's wrong to play this good old game.

>>382288803
If Nintendo released a sequel to the HAL Smashes instead of gameplay prequels I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. I hate a tonne of things about Melee but until Nintendo builds upon the HAL system it's the best of it's kind.

Don't hate the player, hate the devs.

>>382293264
>Fox v Falco

Did see that coming.

whew this thread

>>382304291
Because they have buyers remorse for smash 4 and need other ppl to blindly move on to new games regardless of the quality to feel better about themselves. It's that or its a Nintendo marketer.

>>382288803
this

my thoughts?

can the AI wavedash and shit?
no

so it is a broken thing that needs to be fixed

>>382304932
>can the AI wavedash and shit?

Yes.

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REMINDER HAX IS FUCKING INSANE

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Part 2

>>382306209
I don't know who this chat log is with (I know hax is one of them.)

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>>382306808
big leff

>>382304291
>I'll happily move on if something better comes along

If this was a true statement then you would have moved on to PM already.

>>382307719
>project meme
>good

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>>382307850
Great game that was going in the right direction!

Iirc the devs admitted they had gone overboard with the buffs and were trying to rein it in. At the end there, I remember ledge grab limits were introduced and talk of significant Fox nerfs were floating around.

If there was hope for competitive Smash ever surviving, PM was it. But now that it's clear Melee will be the defacto competitive game, I doubt the series has a future. The meta's getting stale and the players are getting older. It was pretty good while it lasted, tho.

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>>382292032

how the fuck does hax dashback "fundamentally break the game"? I would rather use Magus' code because that results in the dashback happening 1frame earlier than Hax's, but Hax's solution seems to be 99% as good, while abiding by the (admittedly arbitrary) restriction of not altering gamestates

as for the angles, players already notch perfect 18s into their controllers and it's completely legal. the idea that this is going to allow players to start pulling off waveshines and ff angles that are currently impossible is absurd - they can already be achieved with a notch. the only thing that will change if the angle code is implemented, is that everyone will be on equal footing with those who notch their controller. if you don't want to implement the code, well, have fun playing against a player who can wavedash almost twice as far as you because he paid Kadano $60 to notch his GC pad.

>>382308187

fox is not even close to being the best character in PM