I thought Sonic was on track to become a good franchise, then

>>382280829
what if i liked all of them

There will never be a good 3D Sonic game because there was never a good 2D Sonic game. It was always a shitty, off-brand, schizophrenic-feeling, awkwardly-controlling knockoff mascot platformer for edgelord 12 year-olds and furries.

>>382280956
Impossible!

>>382281039
i even went SA2B -> Heroes -> SADX and still like all of them

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>>382280741
But dude, that's the Majin. Remember the infinite symbol right at the end of the trailer?

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>>382280741
He looks cool.

Report me.

>>382280741
I thought it was "burst out laughing"

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It's not.

Sonic Mania vs. Sonic Forces is the final bossfight for the sonic franchise, and we know forces is going to do better because autism and nobody knows what a good game is anymore.

>>382280741
A dozen incredible Sega franchises died for Sonic's continued existence and will continue to exist so long as annoying moronic, should've been shot when they were diagnosed, autistic sperg lords keep buying its shitty games

>>382281225

>expecting Sonic Team to be savvy enough for that kind of fanservice

this ain't the comics nigga

>>382281649
You call it fanservice I call it debasing itself going' HEY HEY REMEMBER THAT ONE THING YOU LIKE 15 YEARS AGO? HEY WASN'T IT FUCKNIG COOL, WE'RE REFERENCING IT, ISN'T THAT EXCITING?"

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>>382280969
Arin plz

>>382281921

Regardless, Sega is too inept to reference such a thing.

>>382282169
I hate references in general, they're a sign of a weak product.

What the fuck is the appeal of sonic games, I enjoyed them as a kid but playing them as an adult they're literally just hold right to win

>>382282559
So I guess your resume is really powerful then

>>382280829
>tfw anon is entirely right
>tfw no f

>>382283102
You know damn well what I mean. A game should be able to stand on its own WITHOUT going "HEY REMEMBER THAT THING? OR THAT OTHER THING? BOY WASN'T SO AND SO INCREDIBLY COOL? HE'S HERE AND GROSSLY OVERPOWERED TO THE POINT OF LUNACY. I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW RINGS"

>>382283039
>they're literally just hold right to win
I don't know about that. Sonic CD would prove you wrong.

>>382283102
Damn bro

>>382283257

You should be more concerned about Green Hill and Chemical Plant being in both Forces and Mania than some possible obscure reference to some easter egg in Sonic CD's sound test.

>>382280829
fpbp

>>382282041
Somebody post that pic of Arin in highschool with his friends, he looked handsome as fuck. It's a shame what's happened to him now

>>382280741
Is this Raiden's Sonic OC?

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>>382280741
>I thought Sonic was on track to become a good

When I saw this I burst into laughing.

Luckily this still has the writer of Colors.

So hopefully it'll all be tongue-in-cheek, pointing out how ridiculous and stupid the entire game's concept and characters are.

>>382283929
Colors writers make awful jokes.

>>382283929
The writing of most sanic games recently has been a little flat. Hire the Boom cartoon writers instead.

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>>382280741
This is what happens when cubes take over.

>>382283929
>So hopefully it'll all be tongue-in-cheek, pointing out how ridiculous and stupid the entire game's concept and characters are.
That would be the fucking worst thing to happen. Hopefully they are more serious again.

>>382284210
You do know that Sega and Sonic Team's direct audience is kids right? Sonic Colors was alright in terms of writing. Nothing too serious or too childish.

Sonic Colors felt like an episode of AOSTH. The same could be said about Lost World but ehhh... it's forgettable.

Honestly I for one am actually curious where the story will go seeing that my boy Chaos is back.

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>>382280741
>I thought Sonic was on track to become a good franchise
>Current Year+1
You're keeping this industry alive, shloka.

>>382285398
It was insanely childish. Baldy McNosehair? How about this shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4cwtgkrkp0

Colors is just failed writing. Too kiddy for both adults AND kids.

>>382285392

No. Serious Sonic doesn't work.

>>382281295
>Rena
Nah, you're cool.

>>382285392
>Hopefully they are more serious again.
>I want muh speedy blue hedgehog fighting the eggman games to be serius

>>382285810
Yes, it does work. It's worked perfectly for both Adventure games, and it's hard to imagine anything else. Sonic Colors Sonic wasn't Sonic, it was just garbage. I want my fucking cool hedgehog back, fuck off, faggot.

>>382285578
What do you want Sonic to be Anon? Fucking serious lore shit that no one cares about, or a game for fans to laugh and have fun?

Only one of those work well.

>>382285938
What is the point really? Rarely anyone pays attention or cares for the plots of Sonic games.

Why is he getting so many negs?

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>>382280741
holy crap!
tri-edge is still alive?

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>>382285947
>It's worked perfectly for both Adventure games

>>382286107
>a game for fans to laugh and have fun
The older games do this by being ridiculous. Kids liked them because they were tryhard cool. The new games are too childish all all audiences.

>>382286107
You're an idiot, and for acting like you can't enjoy both. Sonic worked better in 3D when he had more serious writing.

>>382286373
>rarely anyone
You're just spouting trash conjured up from your own mouth. It's not just the story, but the characters themselves too. Sonic as a character is far less enjoyable to play with and hear quotes from in games like Unleashed and Colors.

>>382286504

>>382286510

Better childish than whatever 06 was.

>>382280829
all 3 of those are objectively horrible games, and barely functional for the time.

The only good sonic game other than the dated but 5/10 original trilogy is colors. fact.

>>382280741
Well this is just to justify a create a character mode, as you know, terrible OCs function on Mary Sue logic, so the main characters could never hope to defeat this villain without enlisting the help of another terrible OC.

>>382286696
06's story still gets talked about for how bad it is a decade later, its fun. Colors/Gens/Lost World came and went, the writing pleases nobody in the end.

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The tone of the very early Archie comics is perfect for Sonic, only furfag autists who want this crap to be War and Peace would disagree.

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>>382286504
>It's worked perfectly for both Adventure games

>>382280741
That looks like edgy noivern

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>>382285947
>It's worked perfectly for both Adventure games

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>>382285947
>It's worked perfectly for both Adventure games

Yeah because a game with three foot tall talking hedgehogs and echidnas and bats and a fox with two tails fits in perfectly with a story of government conspiracy, genocide and a 12 year old girl getting fucking gunned down and it's all COMPLETELY fucking dead serious without a hint of irony. Perfectly well indeed old chap.

>>382286843

What he said.

And thats just what Colors was.

>>382281524
But who's the boss in this scenario?

>>382287086
>Perfectly well indeed old chap.
I'm glad you agree. All of that was perfect. Definitely way more enjoyable to watch than Sonic talking to stupid fucking aliens, Tails, Eggman and his two ugly stupid fucking robots every 5 seconds.

>>382283039
I think your to old for platformers.

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>>382285947
This is a series about an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog that runs really fucking fast anon. Next you'll be telling me Mario should be more violent.

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>>382280741
I love it when people fall for ironic shitposting like calling things "edgy" and start taking it seriously like it's a critique.
You're allowed to like something that's silly, anon. This is one of those times.

>>382287758
It's "silly" for the wrong reasons retard, it's not tongue in cheek, it's completely straight faced and wants to be taken that way.

>>382287631
No, Mario is fine as he is.

I like my 3D Sonic the way it has started. Fast AND cool. Sonic Jam doesn't count.

>>382280829
I'm glad heroes gets some love. Its overhated.

Reason why they dropped the engine from Adventure 2? Because sony forced them to make a ps2 port of heroes and that engine wasn't compatible with it, so they had to use a brand new one. Besides that, its fun to play it in bursts. I hope the xbox version becomes BC on xbox one.

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>>382287901
>Fast AND cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPdJm9kbbI

>>382281524

There won't even be a comic to keep the series limping along this time either.

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>>382288192
>Why Sonic isn't cool anymore
Because Sonic Colors. Now I don't have to watch the video.

>>382287450
Iizuka

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The terrible writing can be pinpointed to one exact period. When everyone collectively called every element of Sonic Unleashed bad. Graphics, music, story, gameplay, EVERYTHING was hated. Double this hate for the HD version (the actual good one, how ironic).

One could drive past Sega or Sonic Team's studio and feel an air of depression around the place as their biggest, most ambitious, most expensive game to date was universally hated. So they stripped away everything, made Sonic slower, made levels nice and 2D heavy with lots of blocks so Nintendo fans would adore it, and made the writing equivalent to PBS cartoons. Because that's not edgy and they get to giggle with their milk bottles when Sonic calls Eggman a baldy. My Sonic died in 2010. 1991-2010. Now he's literally just Sanic, a depressing, alcoholic with a corpse that is strung up and reanimated because LOL MEMES HAHA EVEN WE (SEGA) HATE SANIC! LUL!

It's been 7 years since then, keep on resting old friend. I'll get Mania for you, much like how one buys flowers to put over the grave of a deceased love one occasionally.

>>382287901
Sonic was NEVER cool
His coolness was painfully artificial and almost comes off as parody and no one told Sega the joke. The only people who uinronically thought he was cool were dumbass little kids

>>382288771
>made Sonic slower

Generations Sonic is the fastest he's ever been.

>>382289059
Unleashed actually. He's straight up broken in that game.

>>382288771
Shadow called Sonic a fake way too early. Man.

>>382289026
>painfully artificial
It didn't feel that way to me. It felt very right and SEGA knew it. You're a dumbass little kid if you weren't a kid when you played these, you fucker. I was, and I am 22 now and still miss it.

This was fucking cool Sonic. This guy, right here. Compare this to anything in Unleashed and above or whatever, and it's just not the fucking same. It is really asinine anyone even thinks otherwise, like that fucking retarded tripfaggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-yILpGYro

>>382289340
>It didn't feel that way to me.
YES
BECAUSE YOU WERE A CHILD. You're idea of cool was painfully easy to invoke, especially during the 90s, where rebel without a cause attitude was viewed as the height of cool ness, as oppose to being extremely frustrating to deal with.

>>382280741
Hey man, the game in it's entirety can still end up being pretty good.

>>382289460
I don't give a fuck about any of that. I'm talking about Sonic. I would rather have that Sonic, than the Sonic we have now.

>>382285578
>One bad joke in the whole game
>Gets brought up every time
Guess you missed Eggman's PA announcements

>>382289340
How is this cool? It just feels so... cheesy. His voice is cheesy, his lines and animations are cringy.

So is Sonic nowadays, don't get me wrong. Sonic was at his best when he didn't speak.

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>>382280741
>not enjoying the autistic shitshow that the Sonic franchise's downward spiral has become

Absolutely pleb.

>>382285947
Ok really, why the hell does Sonic NEED to be serious? Other platformers haven't been full on srsbznz and at most probably just have serious plot aspects or a serious climax (Klonoa 2 for example). Hell Mario has never been serious and it's worked fine for ages.

Just have Sonic have a fun story with serious moments here and there, doesn't need to be grim Sanic. Its a game about an oddly proportioned cartoon hedgehog who goes fast for fuck's sake!

>>382289779
I don't know how you see any of it like that. You are either very brainwashed by internet lingo and 4chan, or you are clearly a fucked up retard.

It was way more charming back then and it felt right for Sonic. I don't care about the time he didn't speak.

>>382290024
The hell are you talking about, bitch? There was never a grim Sonic game.

>>382290459
>There was never a grim Sonic game.

Shadow the Hedgehog
Sonic 06

but anyway maybe grim wasn't the right word, but in general, Sonic doesn't need to be serious 24/7. It needs to be a fun adventure with a few serious aspects here and there.

>>382290459
Maybe you're just blinded by nostalgia.

>You're brainwashed if you like modern sonic
>You're brainwashed if you like classic sonic
>YOU HAVE TO LIKE SA1/SA2 SONIC

Nostalgia, clearly.

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>>382290459
>There was never a grim Sonic game

>>382290591
Isn't that what Sega is trying to go for with Sonic Forces?

>>382290920
I'm waiting until I see the full game to know if they're going for srsbznz for the entire thing or if they're going for fun with a serious overtone.

>>382290591
>>382290660
It's hard to count Shadow's game as a Sonic game when it's about Shadow, the literal opposite of Sonic's personality, so obviously they were going to revolve the game around his attitude. And yet, it's still not grim. Sonic 06 is on the same level of attitude with Shadow.

>>382290651
If it was nostalgia, I would be more cautious of what I say and maybe half agree with some of these people.

>>382281649
Reminder that Iizuka didn't even know what Sonic X-Treme was when footage of Lost World was shown.

>>382291469
That makes no sense. People blinded by nostalgia aren't cautious. They think their opinion is fact and can't be bothered to actually open their eyes.

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>I thought Sonic was on track to become a good franchise
It is, you're just looking at the wrong game and the wrong development team.

>>382291005
I'm probably the only anon in this thread that loved Unleashed, Colors, and Generations and think Sonic Forces looks preddy gud.

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The cards are on the table, /v/

>>382291656
Don't worry, i'm one of those "I liked alot of the sonic games" anons as well, be it Classic, Adventure, or Modern

>>382291669

>Coordinated
>Experienced
>Heavy

Sonic Team is only one of those. Though partially because of Iizuka's huge teeth.

>>382291669
>stealth is a manlet with a really weird sounding voice
Dude got fucked on the genetic lottery. But at least he's more successful than most of us now.

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>>382291931
they should put a warning label on these replies before assaulting my sides like that

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>>382280741
Shoot me if you want, but I think he looks cool for a one off villain, sorta like Mephiles was in 06, only this time Infinite isn't going to be in a completely shit game.

>>382291669
>tfw a bunch of fans save sonic merely by pandering what they've wanted for years now
>this is all sonic team had to do and they refused to do it, or simply are too retarded to do so

O i am laffin

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>An edgy looking side villain to Eggman means the game is bad now
It's Generations 2. The game will play fine.

>>382283929
Boco, shut the fuck up. Pontac and Graff write maybe two good jokes a game, and flop the rest of the time, and the way they characterize the main cast is insufferable. Sonic's now an insufferable tryhard, and Tails is his smug, sarcastic sidekick.
"Serious" Sonic was at least earnest, on top of being unintentionally funny.

>>382291590
How doesn't that make sense, and why do I have to be "blinded" by nostalgia? I obviously know my opinion isn't fact, and so does everybody else here. When you are here arguing with somebody who is typing in a way that makes you genuinely believe what they are saying, it's still most likely not how they actually feel. A lot of the times, people are willingly able to admit they're wrong, and agree on some parts with other people.

What doesn't make sense is you saying I am blinded by nostalgia. It doesn't make sense at all what you are trying to say to me in any way. I think 'that' Sonic is great. When is it possible to think you think something is still genuinely good after a certain amount of years?

>>382292457
I liked the light hearted tone in Colors because before then Sonic was taking itself way too seriously. It was a breath of fresh air at the time.

But now they've definitely overstayed their welcome and now the stories are getting bad in the completely opposite way the mid-2000's games did. They really need to find the right balance for these games.

>>382283929
Pontaff are literally the worst writers this series has ever had. All their jokes are fucking garbage, Baldy McNosehair isn't and never was a funny joke.

>>382289763
So did most people considering how fucking hard they were to hear in-game.

>>382292518
>and why do I have to be "blinded" by nostalgia?
Because you say you don't care for the originals, which means you haven't played them, and you said you were a kid when you experienced SA1 and 2. Combine that with your irrational hate for childish Sonic and modern Sonic in general and it's clear as day that you're blinded by nostalgia and your opinion is worthless.

>>382292604
This is a serious question. How long has it been and do you think they may have improved over time?

>>382292907
But all you did was take small bits of what I said and bloated them up to how you want to think of them.

For instance, you say I don't care for the originals, when all I said was that I don't care about the time when Sonic speaks, because that's not what I was even talking about, and that wouldn't mean I haven't played them either.

>and said you were a kid
Okay, and? I was 7 when Adventure 2 came out.

>combine THAT
>with your irrational hate for childish sonic
I don't have irrational hate for it, nor do I have any hatred at all. I just dislike it, and dislike it even more when compared to how he was before.

>and modern sonic
When did I say this?

>you're blinded by nostalgia and your opinion is worthless.
That's not how I see it. I think everything you're saying is worthless, seeing as you just poofed it all up with your little twink wand.

Sonic was decent for the first three games. It was frankly nothing special, it was just alright.
From then on, however, it's been shit game after shit game, ranging from a game so infamously bad that it ascended to meme status as one of the most embarrasing and notoriously terrible games ever released, to just plain mediocre.
Sonic has survived by leeching off of furries and autism unrivaled on the whole wide internet. His iconic status is 100% undeserved and it's honestly astounding it managed to garner such a status after being a character with such a myriad of garbage games and spinoffs, terrible characters, terrible clichés, terrible stories and more often than not, terrible gameplay.
I've shared this on many a threads over the time and I have yet to find anyone to prove me wrong.

>>382292604
>shadow
>06

Oh yeah, Sonic was just forever in grimdark serious games, you're so right. Let me guess, Adventure 2 was the last good game also?

>>382292386
Generations 2 would have been fine if Mania didn't raise the bar tremendously before Generations 2 was even announced.

>>382293674
Ever since Sonic Adventure the games always involved some god monster that overtakes Eggman as the final boss. It turned into a cliche. Sonic isn't Final Fantasy, he doesn't need constant god monsters to fight. I'm not saying it always has to be Eggman either, but just something that fits within the tone of the series.

I think something like Neo Metal Sonic in Heroes was perfect. He turned into a big monster but he is also an integral part of the lore and makes perfect sense.

>>382280741
Wow, they really are going all in copying Xenoverse.

>>382293830
I'm saying Generations 2 in the way the game plays, not it's story. I'm more excited for Mania anyway, but Forces will at least be okay I think.

>>382293937
Hey at least the change of look will actually be important and interesting unlike in that game.

>>382293627
>I've shared this on many a threads over the time and I have yet to find anyone to prove me wrong.
Lol. Here is a (you) since you probably don't get many.

>>382293980
>story
kek
I'm talking about the way it plays as well. Generations/Forces classic Sonic was decent when that was the best we could hope for.

>>382294214
Another one with no trace of an argument.
Well done.

>>382293627
Remember kids, repeating a proposition until people are tired of challenging it and it becomes asserted as fact is called "proof by assertion" and is a logical fallacy.

>>382280741
>camp is bad now

fuck off

>>382294425
Literally laughed out loud. The "Serious augmenter" awaiting his next anonymous opponent for an opinionated argument that wouldn't change anyone's opinions about anything.

>>382294468
I keep telling people unicorns exist and I have yet to find anyone to prove me wrong.

>>382293830
>this game would be good if there werent better games
what in the fuck are you talking about

Eh, this thread could be worse, 90 degrees fag could be in here.

>>382294705
I'm sure he means that there wouldn't be as much backlash for the game if people weren't reminded that a better game is on the way.

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>>382280741

>>382280741
A 3D Sonic game isn't good unless it has edgy as fuck villain/final boss

If the final fight doesn't involve some nightmare fuel abomination, it isn't good. If the gameplay sucks, it's even worse.

>>382294705
I'm talking about standards and context. And I said it would have been fine, not good.

You understand the difference between "the best we can hope for" and "the strictly inferior of two options", right? The raw quality is obviously the same regardless, but the significance of that quality changes with context.

On the flipside, though: if Forces was the best we had for classic Sonic, I might actually be more upset over how shitty it looks, rather than a mix of amused and ambivalent, if I didn't have Mania pandering to my interests.

>>382295061
To be honest if they did give us a game that was flat out called Sonic Adventure 3 and had multiple different playstyles everyone would hate it because they just wanted to play the Sonic stages.

>>382293830
Eh, i'll still probably like Forces despite Mania existed, after all Classic is only one part of the game and i'm not some average /v/ faggot who has to outright hate something just because something else is better.

>>382292386
It's a regression of Generations with EVEN more shitty 2D sections.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HpiBFXRv6w

Greatest soundtrack EVER

I can't believe all these kiddies in /v: who actually enjoyed Pontac and Graff's writing. Sonic's stories are meant to be serious and over the top for a reason. The immense irony of it all is what makes shit entertaining. This kiddie shit cancer is literally killing this series. There isn't even any lore anymore.

What the fuck happened

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I just want both games to succeed. I'm not even mad at the people who never even liked Sonic games. What pisses me off more than the non fans are the people within the fandom who want the other side of the fandom to fail.

>>382281524
I honestly don't think so since Mania has been getting a fuck ton of praise and most people will prefer a retro game to a autism cartoon looking game

>>382295570
How DARE you actually want Forces to do well?!? Don't make me REEE at you!

but seriously I want both to do well. The ones who want one or the other to fail are either deadset on being apart of one of the splintered fanbases or aren't fans at all

>>382286786
>barely functional for the time
kids have more patience than you to work controls

>>382295570
I would want both to succeed as well, since that means there's something in them that people like.
Of course, bad games sell as well. But is Forces sells enough to be "successful", then that means that it did something right. And if there's more things in a game that are done right, then that means a better game overall.

And who the hell doesn't like a damn good time with a vidya game?

>>382295570
>I want Forces to succeed
t. cuck who doesn't know what's good for him

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>>382280741
siiiiick

>>382295570
I hate you neutral fags who have had to much soy and therefore lost your balls to pick a side. Forces is a regression in every aspect. The music is shit, it doesn't look as good as Unleashed, there is yet again an overabundance of 2D sections, perhaps even more so than Colors. The game's a fucking mess, and you damage controlling and saying "h-haha everything is gonna be great guys! we all love sonic here that's what connects us :)" is cringe and cuckish.

>>382296103
/v/ apparently. Everything has to be a pissing contest with this board.

>>382293919
>It turns into a cliche

What? Thats what makes Sonic games different from Mario or other platformers in general. Sonic lore is convoluted and bullshit for a reason. It allows for unique shit like that to happen. The bosses in Sonic are unique, they are something to look forward to. No one wants to battle Eggman for the 800th time as if we are playing Super New Hyper Sunnyshine Stars Mario Bros 15

>>382296379
>perhaps even more so than Colors
Wow, you got that from the E3 demos? Or have you seen the entire game and are holding out on us?

>>382280829
SA2 is the only game that functions as intended.

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>>382285947
>It's worked perfectly for both Adventure games

>>382295783
>>382296103
It's just the idea of wishing one side to fall so that SEGA can then pander to your part of the fanbase just seems extremely petty and cancerous. You can criticize the game. But it's wanting it to fail so hard that SEGA will never go back to the concept ever again is whats stupid.

>>382296163
>>382296379
Friendly reminder that every time you use the word cuck it destroys whatever argument you have, just sayin.

>>382286694
>Sonic worked better in 3D when he had more serious writing

SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG
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>>382296739
>classic sonic: 100% 2D
>avatar: 80% 2D
>modern sonic: first 30 seconds are training like sonic colors, rest is 2D, short level anyway

Nahhhh man I'm fucking crazy! Its actually 3D how foolish!

>>382297223
Thanks for admitting that you're foolish. Now sit down and shut up until the game comes out, then we'll see if your "More 2D than Colors" argument holds up.

>>382297382
You're a stupid fucking idiot. I hope you die in a shooting or terrible disease. Mania is going to shit all over your candy ass le neutral were all winners here fellow gamers :) mentality.

>>382280741
>this
>not custom character creation

>>382295061
Shadow is more like Sonic Adventure 2 2 because it ties up loose ends from Sonic Adventure 2 in regards to Project Shadow and shit.

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>>382295570
post more blaze

>>382297525
Wow, what an edgy little boy.

Maniaonlyfags everyone.

>>382296379
>The game's a fucking mess

How you fucking tryhard? The only bad song so far has been the Green Hill. The Avatar music sounds great as well as City Heights for Modern Sonic. The game looks fucking beautiful, especially now that it runs at 1080p 60FPS on the Xbone and PS4. If you are judging the game based on the Switch, then you are a total faggot for hiding a game off of its worst version. The aesthetic of the game is also very good. Eggman finally has the world under his control, it's like a 3D take on Sonic CD's Future. Cities are being destroyed, everything is being roboticized, and the badniks and Egg mechs are a lot more technically and visually impressive and intimidating. Dozens of impressions have come out and everyone is relishing in the fact that Sonic Team has played it safe and just improved upon the Modern Sonic formula, as well as Classic Sonic's. Add to that, there is almost universal praise of the Avatar play style, with the main complaint being how stiffly the jump is. And, a lot of first impressions take note of the increased level of difficulty due to not being able to pick up rings anymore.

The game is fine, it's just not being super hyped like Sonic Mania because it's a return to what a vast majority of the fanbase and what a lot of gaming journalists loved about Sonic, which was the Genesis era games. And after Lost World and Sonic Boom, the majority of gamers interested in Sonic are cautious of what Sonic Team puts out now nowadays. And we get faggots like you who try to hurt any hype this game gets.

Fuck you, you absolute cancerous whore

>>382280969
this but unironically. I really don't get the appeal of the 'good' 2D games

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Why did they change the boost effect from Generations to Forces?

It looks so bad now

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>>382297689

Sure thing.

>>382297742
None of this matters when the level design looks terrible and the game is 90% 2D. The original Hedgehog Engine looked better.

If you're going to play a 2D Sonic game, why not the one with good physics and level design (Mania)? Because they are both 2D.

>>382297525
I dunno, sounds like you're projecting

I mean yeah, Forces isn't really holding my interest, but we've hardly seen jack shit from the game. If they showed something interesting about it, I'm sure things would change.
But as it is right now, nothing much worthwhile has been shown. So it's hard to say that's exactly how the game will play. I feel like there's just a ton of backlash because nothing "new" has been shown, even though the full game might have something of interest that they're holding back on us.

>>382297948
I actually like the Toon Actiony effect look Forces has for it's boost better than Generations' glow

>>382298067
But the level design doesn't look terrible? It actually looks extremely beautiful with the game's improved graphics engine. And watching the giant Egg Robo fight against the Resistance in the background while Sonic and the OC run past to fight the incoming forces looks very good.

>why not the one with good physics
What's wrong with the physics in Forces? Or better yet, why not just play both?

>>382298347
>Or better yet, why not just play both?
oh boy now you've done it, now you've triggered them.

>>382298187
We've seen a level for each character. We've seen the throw everything at the wall design approach they are going for because that way, they are admitting they don't know how to make a good game and hope fanservice saves them. Pontac and Graff are handling the story. The animations and UI look terrible. The game is 90% 2D. Modern Sonic looks very slow. We know there is going to be Green Hill and Chemical Plant, probably more rehashes.

How many fucking bad things need to be dropped on your head before you realize what's going on?

>>382298347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TxYVe1EKVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ToI7emaQgg

Yeah here's your great level design. Its Lost World tier, get over it. How much is Sega paying you to shill this shitty ass game?

>>382298347
>What's wrong with the physics?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16IBC_kD5o&index=2&list
That is, if Forces hasn't changed anything from Generations.

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Reading this thread has me shaking with anger. You're all fucking piece of shit idiots that honestly need to get decked in the face until you finally think properly. I'm 1000% convinced that the only people who don't like "edgy" Sonikku are out-of-touch, old, ugly, fat, balding, black(?), 40 year old neckbearded virgins. Only chads can truly understand the meaning of the 3D Sonic games from 1998-2009. Only chads can truly appreciate for what these games have to offer in terms of graphics, music, story, level design and gameplay. Only chads realize that the games onward from 2010 are pieces of shit, and that the Classics are overrated mediocre trash. Suck my fucking dick all of you. I physically want to hurt you fucking idiots. I want to bully you into submission. I want to beat the fucking shit out of you senseless. Fucking old out-of-touch nigger bastards trying to act objective after forming some sort of high ground they've made for themselves. Give me a fucking break you retards. The fact that there's alot of you too means that stupidity is fucking rampant on the internet. I'm smarter and better looking than all of you. I'm better than you idiots in every single way. I'm a god-like being compared to you retards. Eat the corn off of my shit you retarded idiots.

>>382281637
RIP Monkey Ball

>>382298526
Chemical Plant may have just been a reference, but we'll have to wait and see for now. If it's in the game, I'll give it to you.

If the game is 90% 2D, the I'll also give that to you. However, that depends entirely off of the level design, which I really hope isn't as shit as what we've seen so far. And if Forces does have good level design that actually takes advantage at what they're throwing at the wall, how would you react.

Things are looking wary, but it's still too soon to immediately call it shit. It's possible, but not entirely guaranteed.

>>382298727
I like corn, thanks for the offer!

>>382280829
Swap SA1 and Heroes and it's right

>>382298727
If you change it to 1991-2009 then I will agree with everything else you said. Nu Sonic Team sucks

>>382283039
For pretty much all Sonic games the appeal comes from going fast beating a Sonic game doesn't make you good at it rather getting faster times marks a better player.

tl;dr: Sonic is about going fast

>>382298526
Literally what was wrong with the level design in either of those stages? The OC especially looked like a platformers wet dream with numerous sections that require tight and precision platforming while other was having fun with the gadgets to reach and take new paths. Even the Green Hill for Classic Sonic was filled with alternate paths, the player just picked the most straight forward one.

I don't know what your point was when you showed me those videos, but if your intent was to further add the notion that Forces actually looks good, then you succeeded.

>>382298526
If there's anything to take away from Forces it's that the OC's levels and gadgets look like a lot of fun

>>382298434
I wish SEGA will continue this route of giving Classicfags and Modernfags a game.

I just want the next 3D sonic game to be classic Sonicless. He seems pretty pointless when we have another more faithful classic sonic game releasing right next to the modern game.

>>382299235
Not him but Forces looks like shit. Classic Sonic has absolutely no fucking reason being in it, especially since he's getting his own shitty nostalgia cash-in game that same year. I wouldn't mind the OC creator if it didn't look like ass either. What's with the toontown aesthetics? Also the aesthetics are straight from LW, which is horrible decision as that game looked awful. The only redeeming factor about this game is some of the music and the villains. They actually look like threatening for once, except for that fucker they brought back from Lost World.. *sigh* Nu-Sonic Team are fucking idiots. There's a very, very few good ideas that are being sprinkled upon this shit sundae. But at the end of the day it still is shit, so welp.

>>382299853
>shit
>shitty
>Nu

something tells me that you don't even want to be in this thread and that you're forcing yourself to be here.

>>382299853
The guy from Lost World is the only one out of them that looks threatening.

I'm not him either, and I disagree with you. You can make your own character look the way you want to, and anybody can make a character that can appeal to them. It doesn't look that bad. If they are going for time travel then, Classic Sonic does have a reason to be there. I hate it, but got over it. The level design itself looks decent for the first few stages. They have a different design philosophy for the 2D sections in 3D games than proper 2D games, which speaking of Mania, is being developed by different people.

>>382298526
>OC Stage
>Lost World Tier design

nigga you blind or something? The OC's stage looked LEAGUES better than Lost World's stages.

>>382300334
Kill yourself you stupid piece of shit. The guy from Lost World looks fucking pathetic, like something out of a saturday morning cartoon. His design is painfully generic and fucking boring. It fucking SUCKS. Plain and simple.
Most threatening one? When fucking Shadow, Chaos, and Metal Sonic is there? You gotta be fucking kidding me you subhuman piece of garbage nigger bastard. I swear to god if there wasn't thousands of miles and a fucking computer screen separating us I'd be beating that ass right now for being so retarded. Consider yourself lucky, nigger.

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>>382300914
Jesus fucking christ anon it's just a game.

>>382300256
Yeah, you're right. I don't wanna be here and I am forcing myself in this thread. But after so many bullshit has been said and SOOO many lies have been told, it's time to step in and put you dogshit nigger bastards in your place. I really hate that the internet allows for the most pathetic of neckbearded virgins to talk mad shit and get away with it. No wonder most of you are fucking virgin NEETs that stay home all day and have no fucking friends whatsoever. You all shut yourselves in and spend the days of your worthless shitty miserable sorry excuse for lives shitposting on a Cambodian basket weaving forum. Get into the real world, you pieces of fucking shits. Talk all this crap to someone irl and see what happens

>>382301153
Did I walk into a Tails Gets Trolled RP thread

>>382301116
Lol, you wish you looked like that you retarded bastard. We all know you're a obese, neckbearded, sweaty, greasy fedora wearing virgin.

>>382301153
Holy shit I can't believe discussion about blue hedgehog video games is triggering you this hard.

>>382301240
Wtf even is that you retarded autistic bastard? Nice job at dodging the subject tho, fucking nigger

>>382301247
what

>>382301264
"HURRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRR ITS GAEM BOUT BLOO HEGEHOG ITS NOT SRS HURRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRR" Fucking idiot, god I want to fucking mutilate you. What state are you from faggot? I want to fucking beat the shit out of you

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>>382301383
This can't be real.

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>>382301383
I see you sometimes. You are a hero, you remind me of 4chan of the old. Keep calling people niggers and saying youll kick their teeth in, it takes me back

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>>382301560
PUSSY ASS FAT BALDING NECKBEARDED VIRGIN WEEB DODGES THE SUBJECT YET AGAIN LMFAOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP FUNNY HOW ONCE YOU CONFRONT THESE FAGGOTS ALL THEY DO IS RUN AWAY LIKE LITTLE FUCKING PUSSIES LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 IM LEGIT CRYING FROM LAUGHTER RN I LOVE 4CHAN MAN I LOVE IT

>>382301383
You seem like a cool dude. I would definitely invite you over to my house to plow my insanely hot GF. mean, she's a real knockout 11/10 "Can't believe someone like this exists and wants to be with me forever" type of gal. I mean, I worked really hard to have her warm up to me the way she has now, and I will never get another chance of someone like that if I lose her. But I would 10000000% be okay with it if it was you to knock her up
\(ovo)/
Like, fucking hell, just take my kids too. One of them has a scholarship, real smart lad. Has a good future in front of him. Then there's my beautiful daughter too, really athletic. Just take em. Please, PLEASE take them from me so I no longer have to feel ashamed for not letting them have a great father like you who really knows how to talk about Sonic the Hedgehog on 4chan!
PLEASE OH GOD WHY HAVE I BEEN CURSED!!!!

>>382300914
I'm the guy you replied to. The guy from Lost World doesn't look bad, and it's too bad he was never in any cartoon, otherwise what you were saying would have more meaning.

It's not a bad design, and it's not that boring. He's got a pretty fulfilling role now being one of the big bad, and although forgettable, I think it's neat that he is there, representing the newer games in a way.

Stay neutral my non committal brethren. They will crack and see the light. If you drive a manual transmission. Keep it only in neutral, the most optimal gear. And remember to check your 5's. The most neutral number on the scale of 1-10.

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>>382301705
Oh I'm a hero alright, a Sonic Hero.

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>>382301383
ok nigga you made me chuckle

>>382301908
Sonic Heroes...one of the last few 3D Sonic games before Nu Sonic Team fucked up everything. Sonic Unleashed is the last Old Sonic Team game.

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>>382301792
Anon?
....Anon?
Are you okay?!

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>>382301153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwvDNpiKUj0

>>382301795
> I no longer have to feel ashamed for not letting them have a great father like you who really knows how to talk about Sonic the Hedgehog on 4chan!
Doesn't this make you faggots 10x more pathetic then? You're literally going out of your way to talk shit about a very established video game franchise's fucking story for fucks sake. Who the FUCK do you think you are?

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This thread right now

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>>382302174
please be trolling holy shit lmaooooooo
the game is shit anon deal with it, we are 4chin

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>>382302174
I think I'm Sonic. Sonic the Hedgehog!

>>382285947
>cool
You just know irl this guy couldn't be any further from the concept of "cool" based off this post alone.

>>382301307
>cant even 1-up us in knowledge of board culture
lol fucking normie scum, kill yourself

>>382302375
I'm way cooler than a faggot like you, that's for sure.

>>382302367
my fucking sidees

So what race will people make in Forces? Going for a rabbit cutie, personally.

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>>382302367
I KNOW I'm Sonic. Sonic the Hedgehog!**

>>382280956
Same here but I like Adventure 1 the best followed by 2 and then Heroes.

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>>382302197
I think I found a better image to sum it up.

>>382302425
oh.. i'm so.. SO terribly sorry for not knowing this cringy ass website's terrible boring ass culture... really, how stupid of me.. next time, i'll know better.

fucking kill yourself you dumbass piece of shit.

So, you guys like Sonic?

>>382303059

no

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>>382280741
>when minecraft attacks!

>>382303059
*raises hand* I do!

>>382302367
Sonics the name speeds my game!

>>382303059
I've never eaten there, so no.

>>382303446
It's pretty good. After a meal, they give you all 7 Chaos Emeralds and tell you to fuck off.

>>382280829
This. Sonic Heroes was the only good Sonic game.

>>382303059
Not enough to eat my own vomit for him but yes.

>>382303561
It seems to me that you haven't eaten their either, as there are only 7 Chaos Emeralds, and we both know you weren't talkin' to Blaze.

>>382302367
Nope.
You're bubsy.

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>>382303561
>After a meal, they give you all 7 Chaos Emeralds and tell you to fuck off

>>382303026
>fucking kill yourself
i told you to do it first so mine matters more

>>382287450
Sonic from another dimension, turned evil

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>>382303637
Huh, special treatment I guess.

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Thread's gone quiet after I put these niggers in their place. I've made them feel fear, loss of control. My job is done, for now. However I'll still be here, I'm an onlooker, a person watching from the shadows. I am /v/'s sole protector. I now realize that I can't let evil run amok and let it have it's away. It personally offends me to the point where I feel physical pain in my chest. If it's me against the world, then fuck it. I know that I'm right and that you are all wrong, so that's all that matters. Watch yourselves you fucking virgins, watch yourselves....

>>382304139
Wait, you're Eggman! Can I get you're autograph!?

It's impossible to have a big, serious story for Sonic without having it come off as silly as fuck. That's a good thing, because that's the only way a Sonic story should be besides nonexistent, and every time they purposely try to make it silly it's shit.

>>382304139
*teleports behind you*
"laughs silently"
SHING-SLICE-SLICE
*reappears in front of u*
*slowly puts sword back in sheathe*
*smirks*
*puts the rest in*
GAPLOOOOOOOSH
heh. dumbass fukin kid

>>382304392
NOTHIN' PERSONNAL KIIIIIIEEEED

>>382304139
I hope you come and crash any thread that has boost cucks defending Forces. I mean, Unleashed was good, but every other boost game sucked. You are a hero

>>382280829
Sonic Heroes is trash. Hated it then and I hate it now.

>>382280741
No image better embodies the sonic curse. Jesus Christ, it takes itself so fucking seriously it's laughable.

This thread is a pasta GOLDMINE

>>382304498
I like Infinite. He's no Mephiles but he looks interesting so far. Plus a villain that actually looks like a sonic character is something we haven't got in a while.

>>382304510
i like clam sauce on my pasta

>>382304139
I fucking love you

>>382304483
Your bald evil conniving mother is trash. Sonic Heroes? Not so much.

How come no one ever talks about Sonic Rush or Sonic Colors DS?

>>382280829
All of these games range from average to bad. Glad that if Mania does well we're probably getting more 2D goodness.

>>382302636
Hedgehog.

>>382295574
The lazy-ass custom character who was clearly made after Boom Sonic flopped will get all the autists.

>>382305368
Have no doubt in my mind the custom character was supposed to be Boom Sonic but that was scrapped because this game would have been torched

I mean really. Gadgets? Stiff jumps? A fucking grappling hook?

>>382305646
I mean it's new and unique, you gotta give it that.

>>382305136
Fuck off nostalgiafag. 2D is an outdated concept that needs to die.

>>382280829
FPBP

>>382305136
>He talks shit about the Adventure games
>Then goes on to praise Mania

Fuck you and your kind. I want to bring all of you nostalgia whores and gas all of you. If there was ever a holocaust for people with shit, godawful taste, I'd be the one to lead it. I am the embodiment of resistance and chaos. I WILL take you and your people down. Mark my words...

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>>382306017
Funny thing is I had nostalgia for both 2D Sonic and 3D Sonic, but when I got older only 2D Sonic held up in quality.

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>>382280829
Anyone have the classic version? The one with 3K being the best, 1 or CD being contrarian, 2 being pleb.

>>382281524
>Sonic Mania vs. Sonic Forces is the final bossfight for the sonic franchise
It really is. Don't give up, though. Even if our chances are slim, we have to do everything in our power to defeat the autism and restore Sonic to his former glory.

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>>382285947
>I want my fucking cool hedgehog back, fuck off, faggot

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>>382306823
>he likes boring ass 2D fat sonic

>>382306962
>2D sonic
>boring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYW7-hNXZlM

>>382280741
I'm still mad about this. It was previously implied that Eggman is actually a serious and competent threat this time around, but then they reeled that back hard for a laughably edgy OC.

>>382307218
But Anon, that's not buddy.

>>382306962
2D "fat" Sonic is the only good Sonic. You're just a delusional teenager, who really, really needs to go back to school.

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>>382307190
I know about that you retard. Modern Sonic still trumps the 2D fat classic Sonic by a gargantuan margin.

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>>382307218
Implying Generations and Lost World didn't do the same shit, only for Eggman to be the true final boss

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>>382301383

pic related

>>382307685
I get where you're coming up with this. The only classic sonic you've played was from generations. Yep, makes sense now

>>382280741
he looks like a dark falz
i look forward to the inevitable pso2 collab

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>>382307218
Eggman being the final boss/only villain in the game is dumb.

>>382307868
fucking dammit my sides cnannot take this any longet

>>382307868
> Like I said before, if there wasn't thousands of miles and a computer screen separating us
You said that to me, not him.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13320631

>>382307825
I had the mega collection as a kid and played the ever loving fuck out of the classic games. I know what I'm talking about, unlike you. Modern Soni- oh who am I fucking kidding -- ADVENTURE Sonic trumps Classic 1000x over. You cannot refute me on this. You're going to throw the same old tired objectively wrong bullshit at me and I'll sit here and laugh at just deluded a human being can get.

>>382307924
He pretends to laugh, but in fact he feels very little. Rather, he feels the exact opposite. Fear and confusion runs through his mind as he shakes at his seat and looks at computer screen with awe. "Why" he asks. "Why is this anon doing this? Why couldn't he let evil run amok and have it's way?" And to that I say no silly, if we let these retarded bastards talk all this shit, other retarded bastards will begin to parrot these sheep-like opinions. I'm doing this for no one but myself.

>>382307868
(You)

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>>382291669
>le "Sonic Team vs Mania Team" meme
you do realise that they're not competing, right? Forces is clearly made for mass appeal, while Mania is catering towards nostalgiafags. The two games are completing each other, not trying to show which is better.

>>382308320
Even STILL my lungs have not collapsed. Try a bit harder and you won't even need your fists to kill me.

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>>382308413
I honestly feel that for the sonic franchise to truly thrive and flourish as a series, nostalgiafags, classcists, Boom fags, and Modern fags should be disregarded entirely. Adventure era styled Sonic games should be the way to move forward. All these dipshits need to be completely ignored and only my kind should be pandered to. These retards don't even truly like the franchise to begin with, so it boggles my fucking mind that Sega/ST decided to listen to these rotting pieces of fucking shits.

>>382308829
I completely agree with you but I doubt it will ever happen. SEGA doesn't want to risk another Sonic 06.

>>382309045
Welp, it's time to make a trip to Japan and visit Sonic Team headquarters. I'll personally convince them to cancel Mania, cancel Forces, cancel the Boom show, and release a Adventure 3 or Heroes 2.

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I see nothing wrong with it.

>>382309489
>>382309045
whoever was the creator of sonic or the main dude was asked a question during one of the mania reveals, and it was if sonic adventure 3 will ever be made. he never said no, he just said it was something along the lines of that it isn't ruled out

>>382280741

Ian Flynn is apparently writing this villain, so there's a chance that he ends up good.

>>382310086
Where did you hear this?

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>>382310338

And the script doctor role on his website fits.

>>382310086
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Flynn

Anyone who's not Ken Penders is appreciated.

>>382295547
Thank you for posting this sir

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>>382310452
Well shit this might be a tolerable story.

>>382310452
So he's working for Sega now that the comic is over? That's.. awfully nice really.

>>382280741
Why did Sonic become such a lame series?
The original games were cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRaly9tk8v0
Just look at that thing in the OP.
That's edgy bs, not cool at all.

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>>382308413
>Mania is catering towards nostalgiafags
While not entirely untrue, that's a pretty reductive and misleading way to look at it.

Nostalgia involves no critical standard. It is merely a raw, unrefined feeling that takes minimal effort to pander to.

Sonic 4 was nostalgia pandering, and it failed. Classic Sonic in Generations was nostalgia pandering, and it was successful. Classic Sonic in Forces is nostalgia pandering, and I don't see it working as well as in Generations.

Mania is a different beast. It's not merely trying to capture the raw, surface level "vibes" of the classic games (though in all fairness, this IS one of its goals, and it's pulling it off way better than even Generations did).

Its team has spent decades making great strides toward properly replicating, from the ground up, the underlying technical aspects that made the classic games valuable in ways beyond mere nostalgia. Things that made them appreciable on a technical gameplay level beyond some vague sentimental longing. And we have every bit of proof we need that they've succeeded: the engine being used to make Mania is the same one that's already successfully recreated, from the ground up, 3 of the original 4 Genesis classics.

Like you said, Forces is going for mass appeal. That includes nostalgia pandering, which, make no mistake, the shitty half baked doppelganger of Classic Sonic present in it purely represents.

Mania's catering to....and it's literally in the fucking name.....maniacs! Autists. People who have been obsessing over Sonic since before the Adventure era. People who know and care about the most minuscule of details, gameplay or otherwise (but ESPECIALLY gameplay). From the coders, to the level designers, to the music composers, to the fucking animators. It's almost all fans. Most of them are established members on Sonic Retro. This is literally the game that people who were upset with Sonic 4 wanted Sonic 4 to be, and that's hardly even an exaggeration.

>>382311530
Stop glorifying that fucking intro you retard. It's good, but nowhere near as great as you pea-brained delusional fags make it out to be. All of the cinematic in Adventure Sonic era games trumps that so hard. SOOO hard.

>>382311016
His website only says for a few scenes, IIRC.

>>382311731
Any game where sonic speaks is shit.

>>382311731
>All of the cinematic in Adventure Sonic era games trumps that so hard. SOOO hard.
So are you 12, or are you on the spectrum?

Because that's the only way you could watch the Adventure era cutscenes where Sonic tries to be "1999 hip" using his vocabulary and not suffer actual physical pain from terminal cringing.

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>>382288771
>Unleashed's story wasn't tasteless toddler food.

>>382298727
Fuck yes

>>382311790
Kill yourself you fucking nigger.

>>382312196
Same to you, you tasteless pleb.

This is a great thread

Why are Mania threads way more chill than this?

>>382312196
http://www.strawpoll.me/13320631/r

>>382304139
Excellent

>>382311872
Why does Sonic being cool offend you so much? Is it because you're an insecure fuckwad piece of dog shit nigger bastard that has a worthless meaningless life? I don't see why else anyone would think this. A normal human being would appreciate Sonic's coolness and edge factor. In a shitty, backwards ass world like this full of evil people such as yourself, I need something like this in my life. Don't ruin the fun for people like me just because you yourself are a fat, black, balding, neckbearded virgin. Don't do it man, don't do it

>>382312243
You literally have no taste or actual opinion though, you retarded piece of shit nigger, you're just parroting the same sheep-like sorry ass excuse of an opinion spouted by these retarded bastards. You are a waste of space, a oxygen stealer, a piece of shit. I want to beat you senseless. I want to beat the crap out of you. I want to beat you so bad you actually think about what you say next time.

>>382312552
Look at this autistic faggot, look at him and laugh.

>>382312408
>Why does Sonic being cool offend you so much?
What do you mean? I like it when Sonic's cool. That's why the CD intro is so awesome.

>>382283039
I liked going fast and I thought the story was cool when I was 12 playing SA and it's sequel.

>>382285938
I don't know why people make this argument when there are serious anime about more stupid shit. SA2 was serious and I thought it was pretty good for what it was. It was also the last time I remember Eggman being a serious actual villain and it was great.

>>382312638
Lets be fair though, no Sonic game has played like the CD intro portrays Sonic.
I don't think that there is such a game that would allow such speed and seemingly free movement in an open environment.

All sonic games are more or less obstacle tracks.

>>382283039
A lot of people have autism.

>>382289026
Sonic was cool when you were a dumbass little kid though because the game is for kids. Now even kids think he's dumb.

>>382312835
The gameplay doesn't need to emulate the cutscene in order for either the gameplay or the cutscene to be cool.

>>382312612
Heh, you won't even get the chance to laugh. I'll beat that ass so hard you'll be screaming and begging for me to stop, all while being full of fear and confusion as to why I'm beating that ass so hard.

>>382312923
This.
And I can understand why someone would find the Old school sonic cool, because hell, I kinda find watching the Sonic CD intro fun even as an adult. The concept is simple and appealing; a fast cartoon character doing fast acrobatics with a nice soundtrack on the background. The same applies to the old sonic games, they are simple in concept, go fast trough an obstacle course. Easy to get into, easy to understand, but surprisingly challenging to actually master.

>>382312923
Kids today are fucking retarded and don't even know what a good game is.

>>382313003
Yeah, my point just was that using the Sonic CD intro as evidence of old sonic games being better than newer ones is dumb because the games don't play like the intro cinematic.
Sonic CD intro is cooler than the modern Sonic shit though, easily.

>>382312638
Nah, no you don't you out-of-touch old retarded stupid bastard. If you did, you'd appreciate the 3D games as well and not glorify the ONE 2D cinematic cut scene we ever got. I honestly think that you should kill yourself.

>>382313216
>Sonic CD intro is cooler than the modern Sonic shit though, easily.
An objectively wrong sorry excuse of a opinion. Fuck you gramps, you can tongue my asshole clean while I beat down on your head for doing a bad job at it.

>>382313003
Makes me wonder if it would be possible to actually make a game that played like the Sonic CD cinematic with modern tech.

As in, instead of being an obstacle course like all Sonic games basically are, the maps would be more open and have more freedom of movement, and the focus would be on speed and acrobatics, sorta parkour like movement with which you would navigate trough the environment as fast as you can.

>>382311885
wasnt chip like a counterbalance to the premise of the world being destroyed, as well as having emotional depth near the end, and made a noble sacrifice? good character

>>382313460
Nobody gives a damn about your autismal opinion m8.
We get it that you love your super serious edgelord sonic and his super serious 3d adventures, like the tasteless plebeian you are.

>>382313216
No, I used it as an example of Sonic being cool, in contrast to Adventure era cutscenes where he opens his stupid fucking mouth constantly instead of just being cool. Gameplay isn't a point of contention (here).

>>382313575
Utopia kinda does this?

>>382313652
Stop giving him (You)s

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>>382313652
No, no one cares about YOUR autismal opinion. You fucking stupid nigger, you retarded piece of shit nigger bastard. You're so out of fucking touch it's crazy. You don't know shit. You're an idiot. You're a absolute retard that needs to get his shit kicked in.
Show Classic Sonic and Adventure Sonic side-by-side to a kid, he'd choose Adventure Sonic without a fucking doubt. The fact that you old ass no fun having niggers constantly choose the old outdated version of Sonic just proves to me you're all tasteless mindless drones that I have to beat down to get to the top. And nothing will stop me from getting to the top. Nothing. Mark my words. Evil has run rampant for far too fucking long.

>>382313736
Man I had never heard of this.
Looks fun as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5paaz16Nw20

>>382313968
Where've you been, nigga? This shit came out last year for SAGE. It's pretty comfy.

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>>382313736
Except Sonic does cool shit all the fucking time in the Adventure era cut scenes. You dumb ass fucking retard who doesn't know jack-fucking-shit. Continue being a keyboard warrior cus that's all you can do. 4chan allows for the most pathetic of neckbearded obese retarded shit taste having virgins run amok like fucking crazy. You're a fucking idiot. I genuinely think that you should kill yourself.

>>382314189
I had given up on Sonic ages ago.

I hope Sega takes that demo as an example and makes a full fledged game of it.

>>382313968
This looks like shit. Cus yeah, roaming around in a empty canvas with no sort of objective or goal is fun as fuck! Classic Sonic aesthetics which clearly don't belong in a 3D world are also cool, and shitty uninspired music is awesome! Woohoo!

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>>382314279
Oh, they know.

>>382314490
I bet Naka just shared that out of pity. He's probably thinking "Are my fans really this retarded? "

>>382311790
where's the lie though

>>382314897
Here, everywhere in this thread, including that one. Fuck you nigger

I wasn't lying when I said I'd be an onlooker and attack when was right. >>382304139
For new posters, think before you speak in this thread, as I will beat you down for the nigger that you are.

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>>382280741
they've split off in two directions now

full autism is what the 3D games are

classic for the people who only care about real sonic games is what Mania is.

>>382306296
None of the Adventurecucks or Boostbabbies seem to grasp the reality of this.

I admittedly have nostalgia for Sonic 1 and 2, but the only nostalgia I have for 3 or Knuckles is isolated to Angel Island and Mushroom Hill.

I have far more nostalgia for Adventure 1, 2, Heroes, and hell even Shadow than I do for 3, Knuckles, or CD. I didn't even play CD until Gems Collection.

Yet at the end of the day, while I still love at least Adventures 1 and 2 to death, they don't hold up under closer scrutiny. The older I get, the more complex my thinking gets, the less and less I could show them to a fully grown adult who enjoys games with solid gameplay, with no attachment to Sonic, and make an attempt to defend them as quality works. The classics, however, I definitely can. That said, even they're not perfect (1 in particular is the weakest of the quartet), but they all still hold up much better than anything post 3K not named Sonic Advance 1.

>>382313169
well how uncool is sonic that even these retarded kids of today think he's dumb now. I remember thinking he was cool when I was 12.

Ah, you know what, fuck it. I'm done. I'm tired of singling each and every one of you retarded bastards out and making each and every "point" you make a absolute joke.
However, I'd like you all to do one thing. Admit that you're a out-of-touch old ass piece of shit who doesn't know a fucking thing about fun and that the 3D Adventure era Sonic games are NOT for you, and the only reason you talk shit about those games is because of the fact. The term "aged poorly" is a tired ass meme spouted by fucking idiots who don't know what they're talking about. You expect the developers to see into the fucking future when they're making their games? Also the gameplay isn't the only thing that I like about these games, it's the music, the aesthetics, and the story. I absolutely love what the Adventure era games have to offer. I appreciate it very, very much.

>>382315676
Not that guy but I think the story of adventure games was good without being too cringey like shadows game but the gameplay doesn't hold up at all. Get rid of the weird mouth and voice acting and it was pretty good for a kids game. also bring back chao garden

>>382315985
>aesthetics

same, also my favorite artstyle is from adventure era and battle

>>382316132
i miss Sonic having fangs. I miss when he didn't have a sidemouth to match the Channel art.

>>382315827
That just means that everyone has shit taste and is apart of the problem. Everyone except me has awful taste.

>>382316005
>the story of adventure games was good without being too cringey
The raw bullet points of the plot weren't bad, but the way the story was told (more through dialog than action) has only become more and more grating as time goes on, and I revisit it.

I do applaud Gamma's story, though. The way that one was told was just about perfect. An emotionally impactful ending that just let the shit happen. It didn't need to tell us what was going on. We knew. We could tell. You can evoke powerful emotions in humans without words.

>it was pretty good for a kids game
I won't disagree with that, but I have higher standards now than I did when I was a kid. An all ages sort of appeal would be optimal.

Chao Garden (in 2 at least) was maximum comfy, and I'd love to see it expanded on. I don't have any faith that modern Sonic Team would be able to replicate and build off of it, though. It'd probably be a frustratingly cheap and shallow imitation. Maybe if the folks at Hippotank applied their knowledge of the intricacies to make their own fan Chao Garden, Sega might eventually take notice and contract them, the way they've done with Christian Whitehead, Simon Thomley, Tee Lopes, Tyson Hesse, etc.

I feel so sorry for this fanbase, Sonic Team just keeps making new play styles that split fans & what the want. I wonder how bad these arguments are going to get when Boost Sonic dies off & gets replaced making a new split in the fanbase & these threads.

I'm sure as hell getting Mania.

Forces can fuck off.

>>382316473
Your dead mother can fuck off

Sega should re-release Sonic Colors, Unleashed and Generations for Xbox One, Switch and PS4

>>382291669
Why do Aussies and British lads love Sonic so much?