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IPS or TN panel, /v/?

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IPS or TN panel, /v/?
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>>382257402

TN.
144hz or more.
Don't fall for the color saturation Jew.
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>>382257402
IPS
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VGA
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>>382259675
mein nigga
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Here's my experience with TN/IPS:

>want to make decision between monitor types
>coworker has IPS, ask if i can check it out
>everything just looks cartoonish like the color sat is way too high
>scroll up and down page
>edges blur and faces look almost demonic like bilbo going crazy for the ring in lotr
>white balance doesn't look that impressive
>go on newegg, order acer 144hz tn
>set evga 1070 to 144hz
>mouse cursor looks like an actual solid object moving around on screen
>play some far cry 2 and mgsv, everything silky smooth

Just get a monitor with a very high refresh rate, your gaming and aim will thank you.
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>>382261426
Thanks
I was about to buy the monitor in pic related, it's IPS but the fact that the bezels aren't that large is appealing
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144Hz
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left is IPS
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Does anyone have either of these monitors and recommend them?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014578
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H5GN8059
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IPS will generally have better color and image characteristics as well as 178/178 viewing angles.
TN will have faster response times.
Pick which is more important to you.
Unless you graphics card and cpu are capable of much higher frame rates than 60fps, ips at 60hz will probably do what you want if you are not a hard core gamer.
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>All those poor twats that can't afford a 144hz IPS

Serioulsy tho, at least when you're using an IPS you will never see your reflection when the screen goes black
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>>382257402
IPS has more delay but better view angles and colors, if you mainly care about movies or do photoshop work or so get that

Otherwise go TN and get a 2k 144hz if you can. Best thing.
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For gaming = TN
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>>382263368
>Both screens have completely fucked contrast
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TN screens can look great too if you take some time to fiddle around with the settings. Pretty much none of them look optimal at default settings, but you can google around and benefit from research other people have done with your monitor, there are also calibration websites
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>>382264110
What if I want to look at my cute trap face when the screen goes black?
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>>382257402
Considering this is a video games board, TN. Otherwise, IPS.
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I would prefer TN over IPS, but AMVA is top notch
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>>382257402
CRT, MOTHERFUCKING PLEBS.
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>>382257402
>Buy super graphics card for muh graphics
>Pump it out on to a liquid shit TN panel
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>>382263368
Fuck all this shit. When will OLED become a standard?
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TN looks like garbage. The people that buy TN are the same people that buy retarded "gamer" branded shit.
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60hz:
ALWAYS IPS, alternatively VA. The compromises of TN are ridiculous when the frame update is inherently 16.6ms anyway. 60hz TN is only for super console plebs who buy some Benq "gamer" model with horrible overshoot.

144hz:
TN is more affordable, slightly faster (but not much more than IPS, IPS just doesn't have a theoretical 1ms g2g marketing gimmick time). The 1440p TNs are the best TNs ever color reproduction wise, although there's still huge gamma shifting. Sadly most have shitty haze coatings, only Dell make them with a less hazy one.

144hz 1440p IPS monitors are always very good color wise out of the box. Sadly the 144hz ones have bad panel QC and IPS glow out the ass.

VA is an interesting choice in 2017. Samsungs SVA panels finally make VA fast enough for proper 144hz. There's a written + video review of the new AOC AG322QCX up today, which uses the new 32" Samsung 1440p 144hz SVA panel. Killer price in the EU for such a monitor, and probably the best allround compromise to date IMO with it's decent response times, great blacks and mild color/gamma shifting (if you enjoy 32" over 27")
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>>382266854
How's 60hz VA? We could get one for 100 eurobux for my gf, she's a pleb that still had a shit tier TV from like 2006 that's thick as a brick, shit resolution and screen complete with literal software glitches.
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>>382266013
Google Samsung QLED monitor.
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IPS has an element that will burn out after about two years of use, TFT's go on forever.
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Went for an IPS because the TN monitor I owned previously had terrible contrast and color temperature.
Plus I also draw fanart on MSpaint every day, so I wanted some better color reproduction.
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>>382267553

Pretty good these days. But as a rule don't be surprised if there's a fair amount of black smearing - the only panels that I'm sure don't have the good ol ~50ms black transitions that VA usually have are the 144hz Samsung curved ones. Maybe the C24F390 and that whole newer series are better too?

It's not that bad though. If all she mainly uses it for is work, watching stuff, and playing games that don't enhance the issue (like Binding of Isaac, because of the black character outline), it's good.

If you mean the GW2470H, it has the usual smearing.
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>>382268190
I doubt she'll care about that. Good, thanks for the help.
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>>382264110
I barely see a reflection when my TN panel is turned off
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>>382257402
TN, unless you can deal with IPS glow, which ruins any dark scene. I used what's classified as a "low" glow IPS monitor and I was always pulled out of the experience in every dark scene, so I don't even want to know how bad a a regular or higher IPS glow is.
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IPS, TN is disgusting. You can't go back after using a properly calibrated IPS unless you have no standards.
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OP here
It's possible to overclock both TN and IPS panels, right?
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>>382268319
Fucking this, choose anything but IPS.
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>>382268319
Both TN and IPS glow. I've had both and both noticeably glow white or blue on the bottom or corners of the screen when you're in a dark spot in a video game or watching a movie that has dark scenes.
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>>382268701
IPS glows much worse than TN.
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IPS with overdrive

TN colors and angles are a fucking joke
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>>382268701
>Both TN and IPS glow
No. That would be backlight bleed.

IPS glow is exclusive to IPS monitors (hence the name). It's the silvery glow in the edges. As for the backlight bleed in TN panels, it's obviously dependant on what monitor you have but my old ass 1080p/60hz TN has zero backlight bleed, completely black blacks so I don't believe it's all that common in TN panels.
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>>382269004
>angles are a fucking joke

You have to sit very strange in front of your desk and monitor.
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>>382269063
>but my old ass 1080p/60hz TN has zero backlight bleed

Old TN TFTs were always backlight bleeding free. Newer, however, from 2010 upwards, always had backlight bleeding, and if it was only minimal.
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CRT > VA > TN >>> IPS

Not posting OLED because it's too new and not widespread and I have no experience with it.
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TN is great if you like never knowing how things are actually supposed to look.
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>>382269447
>CRT

hipster detected
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>>382269447
Isn't OLED something else? Because I see LED VA screens for example. I don't know the difference.
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>>382269603
Don't give him a single fucking (you).
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>>382269603
In every other way besides pure image quality and performance CRT is beaten. Nobody wants 4:3, 17 inch, 70lbs, lower resolution, power hungry displays, I get that. But if you already have an old CRT that was a good model and it still has good image quality than it's still worth keeping even if it's not your primary monitor. You can always use it for emulation and competitive FPS and fighting games.
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>>382257402
IPS.
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People who prefer TN over IPS don't even own an IPS screen
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>>382257402
Got a IPS and a TN panel.
TN is superior is almost every way
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>>382269634
LED is a TN/IPS/VA panel backlit around the edges. OLED is a new type of panel that doesn’t use backlight.
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>I want to be MLG
Get a 144hz TN

>I want good color and I might do photo editing
Get an IPS that isn't too cheap

>I want the best possible all-round image quality for games and movies
Get a VA
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People who ever paid for TN anything in their lives should be publicly executed.
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>>382270754
newfag detected, i bet your first game was Black Ops II or GTAV.
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>>382266854
What is horrible overshoot. I actually bought a Benq monitor tn 60hz for my ps4 lol.
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>>382270835
My first LCD monitor was a 1280x1024 Samsung VA panel back in 2005, which i still use to this very day, as a 2nd monitor. Before that i had a 19 inch CRT LG Flatron. Tell me more, kiddo.
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>>382269447

as much as I like my FW900, the new 1440p 144hz VA panels have me thinking about upgrading.

Good blacks, sharp res and high refresh simultaneously, nice size, adaptive sync - and most importantly an input type that's actually supported by modern graphics cards (best card with analog out is the 980ti, no 400mhz pixel clock external DACs exist)

Still - everyone should have a small PC CRT on hand. There's nothing quite like playing Starcraft BW, the original Baldur's Gate, etc. in native sharp 480p with great contrast
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>>382270597
>Not wanting to get a 144hz IPS with <6ms
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>>382270989
>CRT LG Flatron

Not a HP A4033A
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You can overclock both IPS and TN panels right?
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>>382257402
I bought one of those 24" Acer IPS panels for my mom when I built her a PC a year or two ago. I'm so fucking jealous of it. It's the best looking screen I've seen that wasn't one of those baller Dell monitors.
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>>382271145
Yeah it just depends on the monitor itself
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>>382259675
144hz ips you retarded dumbass. Your weak washed out inaccurate colors belong in 2005 when display technology was at an all time low
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>>382270962

people don't know bout monitors, so they buy whatever outdated, overpriced POS product Amazon reviews or pro-gamer sponsors nudge them towards.

In this case the RL2455, which has way aggressive overdrive leading to overshoot/ghosting, and is usually 200$ which you could get a great IPS or 144hz TN for. If you see ghosting on your monitor, try turning down the AMA setting to a milder one - TN doesn't need extreme overdrive at 60hz
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>>382271102
If you're going for 144hz for smoothness and responsiveness than you are an idiot to get a 144hz IPS. A good 144hz TN will always have less motion blur / ghosting than a 144hz IPS.
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>>382266854
>Mfw got a 4k ips TV instead of a VA one
Groupon literally fucking lost my television in the mail. We got a refund and I had to go with an LG because Samsung SUHD panels are all out of stock or over $1k now
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>>382271609
If you buy a TN panel for any reason at any resolution at any refresh rate in 2017 you are a retard, end of story
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>>382271591
What monitor should I get if I like RPGs?
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>>382257402

140HZ TN 1440p

If you really want IPS

60 HZ 4K
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Unless you're really really poor, buying TN in 2017 is full retard.
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TN - I want a decent monitor for gaming
VA - I want accurate color reproduction
IPS - I want an overpriced compromise
OLED - I want the best
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>>382271942
> TN - I want a decent monitor for gaming

Say that to my face and see what happens
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>>382257402
TN because I dont want to send an IPS monitor back five times to get one without backlight bleed
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>>382271901
t. shill
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>>382271841
CRT because all the good ones were made for 4:3 screens
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>>382271841

depends on your budget and rig (resolution, Freesync or not, etc.). But for general use you'll probably want a 60hz, so IPS or VA.
The 24"-25" 1440p 60hz IPS selection is pretty good, at 200-250$. If you value deep glow-free blacks a lot, a cheaper 1080p VA - or perhaps the C24FG70 for sub-300$ 144hz 1080p VA if that's what you'd like.
No cheap 1440p VA panels yet sadly, Samsung only just launched some 1440p VAs recently, and they're not cheap
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>>382257402
IPS, are you fucking insane? The ONLY reason to get a TN panel is if you want 144Hz, in which case you have no choice unless you want to spend over $550
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>>382271379
>2005 when display technology was at an all time low
Yes, who could forget 2004 when technology regressed to a pre-90s state. Luckily the technology market bounced back after the recession.
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>>382266854
>AOC AG322QCX
Holy crap that does look good and affordable, what's the catch???
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>>382257402
If you draw/animate, get an IPS screen. If you care about framerates, get a TN.
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>>382268319
Buy a better display, faggot.
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>>382269063
>completely black blacks
Wrong. Absolutely 100% incorrect. There are orders of magnitude blacker blacks than what your shitty monitor outputs.
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I have an Asus IPS monitor and everything looks obscure as fuck in video games... gladly I use mostly for work
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>>382271942
>IPS - I want an overpriced compromise
They cost exactly the fucking same as TN unless you want to go above 60Hz. They are also equally or more competent for gaming than TN given that response time has become a non-issue by this point in time.
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>>382257402
doesn't really matter
lcd is STILL bad
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>>382272531
That's fucking stupid and you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Stop parroting stupid shit you hear that you then misinterpret even further.
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>>382272672
I have a Phillips trimmer and i cut my balls every time i try to shave them... gladly I use it mostly for work
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>>382272507

no catch, according to the review. Just a solid VA panel.

Might be unproportionally expensive in the US.
May come with early production issues.
Maybe you will get your money's worth more with the 3000:1 Samsung or Philips models (+ fake HDR and strobing on at least the Samsung), although the AOC is already pretty worth it at these prices


>>382272531

what if I only shitpost?
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>>382272254
>trust me, the cheaper option is the better one anyway
Poor people should be gassed, or at least blocked from internet access
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>>382257402
I... I use a 32 inch tv for pc gaming. Did I fuck up?
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>MFW have 4 displays currently and have gone through over a dozen

I'll give you this advice, OP. TN is the poor man's choice. Do not listen to ANYONE who tells you TN is good for ANYTHING. It's the poor man's choice, no contest. You get TN if you want to save money. If you want high refresh rate, high resolution, "smoothing", color accuracy, high contrast ratio, dynamic refresh technologies, you can get all of that done better on other display types. It's just that for MOST of those features, you can get them cheapest on TN displays. TN does nothing whatsoever in the practical sense better than any other display type. Due to how the technology works, it's easier to achieve high refresh rates and low response times, but other panel types have caught up to the point where that advantage is completely moot.
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>>382272490
Yeah that's kind of what I'm getting at, the point in time when normies switched to cheap as fuck 1024x768 flat screen panels that looked like absolute fucking garbage and ran like shit compared to got tier 1440p mid tier crts from 1999
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>>382272994
I'm in Russia and the cost is comparable to a TN from a big name brand with the same resolution and refresh rate. I was just choosing between 144Hz TN and 60Hz IPS or VA as I couldn't afford both.
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OP here
I don't think IPS is the best choice, however I'm on a slight budget and the Acer GN246HL seems like a good monitor for $50 more
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>>382272802
Enlighten me then.

Otherwise, colors/viewing angles (which any artfag would care about) are better on IPS screens, and artfags don't typically care about framerate.
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>>382273209
Completely depends on your gaming experience. Most likely you'll benefit more from a 60Hz IPS display, but if you have a certain use case, then the other one is better, but you'd have to identify whether or not that's the case for you.

Basically, default to the IPS display unless you find a specific reason to desire the 144Hz TN display more (assuming you have the graphical processing power to run your games at high framerates in the first place)
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>>382273428
Yeah, but the monitor in question is a 144Hz VA, isn't that very good?
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someone rate my monitor
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bought it cause it was the standard for fightan tournaments
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144Hz TN because this is /v/ so you're most likely going to use it for video games and refresh rate is more important
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https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236781R&cm_re=asus_monitor-_-24-236-781R-_-Product

I bought this... did I du gud?
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I'm about to buy the ASUS VG248QE, should I reconsider for something better/similar?
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what if I just want a monitor I can look at while in bed/lying down on my chair without having the colours go all wrong
IPS?
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>>382273323
Art enthusiasts that need color accuracy get a VA panel.

There is absolutely zero correlation between TN and framerates. Your GPU and CPU are largely what drive your games to have bigger framerates. This has zero to do with what kind of monitor you have. TN panels used to be known for their lower response time, but IPS panels caught up at least in GTG, by around 2011~2012. By now response times on IPS panels (not just GTG) are so low, it's irrelevant. TN panels were also the first LCD to popularize high refresh rates such as 120Hz or 144Hz. This is not exclusive to TN. They are just easier to implement on, so they got it first. Other display types have caught up as well. TN panels also got gsync/freesync first. Now other panels have it as well.

Basically, TN is good for nothing but being cheap. If you want the cheapest 1440p display, you get TN. If you want the cheapest 144Hz display, you get a TN. It's not the best at anything anymore. You ONLY get it if you want to save money, although even THAT advantage is going away. A couple years ago getting a 1440p IPS display was really expensive. Expect to pay around $500+ easily. Now 1440p IPS displays cost about equally as much as TN displays, as do 1080p versions.

In this day and age, you get IPS for a general purpose monitor, unless you want to shift your money elsewhere (like if you really want 144Hz on a budget).

OLED is better than everything except VA for some use cases.
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>>382257402
144hz 4ms IPS. My TN monitor is right next to it and the difference is night and day.
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>>382274227
Do it
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>>382273559
Yeah that's pretty good. VA is good. Check the response times though. VA isn't really geared towards gaming, so 144Hz VA is a really strange combo.
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>>382273295
>>382274227

don't be a sheep buying an ancient product from 2013, with fucking PWM dimming/flicker on the backlight, bad colors presets and overdrive, etc. The Acer doesn't even have Displayport.
If you're gonna cheap out, get the XF240H or G2460PF


>>382273209
sounds like the perfect choice for you then, if you think a 32" 1440p (same pixel as a 24" 1080p) is nice like me, and you don't mind the curve.

The video of the AOC makes it seem really good for a VA, with very mild response time issues compared to many VAs, even the high refresh ultrawide ones. A much better compromise than an equally priced TN in my opinion
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>>382274361
It says 4ms, seems alright.

>>382274395
Well, thanks for mentioning this thing. It does sound like a great compromise.
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>>382274227
The BenQ XL2411Z is its most direct competitor. Compare prices. The ASUS has shitty color calibration out of the box, but you can fix that yourself.

The problem is that both are from many years ago, but the whole "best 144Hz TN gaming display" war ended and thus not many new products were made to fit that category with some newer technologies. I'd try looking into more stuff first, before making a final decision.
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Who /Dell UltraSharp/ here?
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>>382274279
yes
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144 TN if you're interested more in gaming, IPS if doing color sensitive work or primarily watch movies. This isn't hard
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>>382274559
/g/, since they're all stuck in the fucking 1998~2011 era of PC technology and somehow proud of it
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>>382274227
>VG248QE
It's good for the price. After calibration the color accuracy is quite good although contrast is still noticeably worse than an IPS panel. Lightboost is great for blur reduction.
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>>382274626
No, you're fucking stupid. It's not as simple as that. What if you have a fucking GTX 750 Ti and an i3-3220? Are you going get a stupid fucking 144Hz TN display for gaming? Fucking idiot.

What if you play games like GTA, Dota, Civilization, and Hearthstone, are you going to get the TN?
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>>382274626
A good IPS monitor is perfect for gaming. It's not as straight forward as you're making it out to be. I splurged on that 27 inch IPS Acer with Gsync. It's fucking amazing.
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>>382274361

VA wasn't really ready for 144hz until recently. Even the "200hz overclock!!" expensive ultrawide ones like the Acer Z35 were inadequate for even 144hz. Usually the dark pixel transition times sucked.
Samsung's SVA panel used for the C24FG70 and such are fast enough though. They are making 32" and 27" 1440p versions now, which is used in the AOC
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>>382274838
Why wouldn't he? That build can run Quake at 300FPS
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>>382274934
>AOC

Are AOC making a comeback? They and Samsung were absolute fucking garbage-tier for like 5 years after BenQ gave up and while ASUS and Acer were having a who's got the biggest dick contest.

Did they start trying again? Even LG has silently been trying to be slightly less shit in the past few years.
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>>382274838
Not him but why would anyone be getting an expensive monitor with those specs? Where are their priorities?
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>>382274292
Hmm, i use VA panels for 12 years, and have a Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel as well, and it's colors are way better than on my VA monitors. I still prefer VA, because it doesn't give me eye strain, but if i was an artist, i would probably switch to IPS.
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>>382275167
You wouldn't get a 144Hz display if you have a bad system because you can't actually run games at those kinds of framerates.

You wouldn't get a 144Hz display if you play games that benefit fuck all from it like Hearthstone or Dota.

Given the price of typical 1080p 144Hz displays, you could invest just about the same amount of money for a 1440p IPS display, or significantly less money for a 1080p IPS display, and enjoy the better color accuracy no matter what you're doing rather than get high refresh rate when you'll never, ever see its results in any practical sense outside of having smoother looking mouse movement.
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>>382274694
Did i miss something, or PC technology changed since 2011?
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>>382275149

The G2460PF is pretty good reportedly, at least after they fixed all the early problem with drivers crapping on the refresh rate and Freesync range.
All of the newer "Agon" gaming models have reviewed well generally. Don't think they do much beyond gaming monitors though
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>>382275454
Ultrasharps have horrendous response times. A very early 2010's feature of IPS displays. IPS has matured greatly since the old days and is no longer a sidegrade, it's a direct upgrade.
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>>382275430
wow you are retarded
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>>382275636
What part of his post is retarded? Can you explain yourself with logic and debunk his own arguments? Otherwise fuck off you butthurt faggot, you're just mad because you can't afford anything besides TN and built a false delusion that it's somehow the "master race's choice" or some shit
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>>382275610
> response times

Who the hell cares except for a bunch of illiterate multiplayer-only niggers with goyim gamer merchandise?
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>>382275454

Around 2011 monitors started coming out with LED backlights. Then in 2013 Benq started making them flicker/PWM free because PWM dimmed backlights with no light decay like LEDs give you headaches and motion artifacts (unlike phosphors).

Also glossy monitors are now rampant in phones/tablets/laptops and pretty much dead for desktop. But at least we got less nasty matte coatings now
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>>382275820
Everyone that plays video games cares about an EXTREMELY relevant spec? Enjoy your 14ms response time, kid.
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>>382275721
Anyone that plays FPS games competitively will lower their settings as much as possible for maximum performance and visibility. Competitive games like Quake or CS can easily reach 200 FPS with a laptop and if you think an i3 or 750 ti isn't enough then you probably don't play games competitively.
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>>382272550
Nigga the IPS panel I used cost 500 bucks, and it was only 24"/60hz. Doesn't get higher quality than that.
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>>382275820
Literally everyone who games, retard.
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>>382266013
>buys a $300 oled monitor
>3 days later the image burns in
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>>382275931
There are good manufacturers, and there are bad ones. For example, ASUS displays are known for having tons of glow issues. Even their highest end ASUS ROG 144Hz gaming IPS display has tons of glow.

Not everyone is ASUS. Some manufacturers don't actually fuck up like this.
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>Bought an IPS over the holiday season
>Sits next to my TN and the difference is night and day
>Have a 1440p monitor at work
>The screen real estate is ridiculous
>Hear about 144Hz meme and kinda want to give it a go

Considering picking up a new monitor, but I'm not sure about dropping an extra $400 without trying out the 144Hz.
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>>382275978
If your meme is true, why don't phones have burn in? Tons of phones use OLED and people tend to have the same exact item being displayed on the screen all the time, such as a wallpaper. Why do I hear no reports of this?
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>>382276082
I had a Eizo EV2450, which TFTcentral called low glow in their review of the monitor. If that's supposed to be low glow, that's just awful.
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How to know/v/ is completely fucking retarded and underaged
>they ever recommend TN over IPS
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>>382275978
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>>382276125
When you first get 144Hz it's pretty cool, but it wears off. You get used to it. I can hardly feel the difference anymore to be honest. It's good, but it's not the greatest thing ever. Still, I wouldn't willingly give it up if I didn't have to.

Lucky for you though, there are 1440P 144Hz IPS displays out there.
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>>382276251
How to know/v/ is completely fucking retarded and underaged
>they ever recommend IPS over TN
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>>382271379

IPS technology was invented in the 90's, not 2,000's. You've ousted yourself as underage.
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assuming I can handle it, should one bother splurging on 144hz 1440 IPS, or just stick to 1080? is the difference that substantial?
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>>382276237
I don't know what to tell you. You either got a bad unit or you were given bullshit advice.
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>>382276378
Yes, it is, unless it's not in the budget for you, in which case don't sacrifice other parts just for the monitor.
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>>382276378
For gaming I can't really attest to the benefits of going that high, but for general use, the more space the better.
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>that guy who buys a 144hz TN monitor for muh response time but is still shit at games
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>>382276378
1440p looks amazingly crisper and clearer than 1080p. I don't even need AA in games with my 25" 1440p screen because it's so crisp. The difference is honestly staggering if you switch between the two mid game or something.
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>>382264110
Reflection is a different thing independant of panel type, it the glossy vs matte coating.
Glossy gives better colors, but have the reflection problem.
And as a matter of fact, glossy is more common with IPS rather than TN.
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>>382276176

>why don't phones have burn in?

THEY DO. Every single OLED based phone ever does have burn in after a given period of time. And keep in mind, that's with a device that sees 3 hours or less of screen time on every day. Imagine a monitor that could see anywhere from 8-12 or more hours per day? Yeah fucking right.

OLED never was and never will be considered a serious option for desktop displays. The work environment basically demands that they never become a standard because they need to be on for hours on end showing a static screen and that's just not doable on OLED.
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>>382276378
it does look better but if your on a budget dont bother i can say though TN is horrible to look at after going ips
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>>382276594
My Amoled screen has never had burn in and I leave the same YouTube sleeping video on for 8 hours a night when I sleep.
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>>382276594
it's like people forget what the O means
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>>382276723
>having reading comprehension this poor
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just go here and try to get anything 10ms and below

https://displaylag.com/display-database/
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>>382276594
No burn in ever in my Samsung S3, S5 and S7e.
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>>382276784
Care to explain?
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>>382274395
Then should I just stick with the Acer IPS monitor them get something better this winter?
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>>382257402
IPS of course
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>>382276739
organic, wich implies degradation.
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>>382276784
What's wrong? Mad I proved you wrong? Have had this phone for 4 years now I think and I watch the same video every single night and there's nothing. That's over 10,000 hours of the same exact thing on my screen since the video is a still image.
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>>382275463
The display port on my G2460PF died 3 months and 1 day after purchase. I was mad but it was probably for the best to wean off of 144hz. But for so cheap it's what I expected
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>>382276914
yup, they absolutely will decay, and are always decaying

ironically, the second most harmful thing to an OLED display is light, which it's fucking emitting
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>>382276972
OLED isn't AMOLED, retard.
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one of each
>play your games at max efficiency with tn
>while shitposting with glorious colors in ips
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>>382276972
put an all white image on full screen and take a photo
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>>382261426
>gaming monitors
yeah you really needed that placebo refresh rate to defeat far cry 2 ai. don't take advice from gamers. they're natural born suckers.
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Oled or get out
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>>382257402
TN monitor and IPS TV
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>>382277202
shut up phone poster
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>>382277115
Literally the only difference is turning off transistors that are showing black on the screen.
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>>382277160

This. Guaranteed any OLED (AMOLED is OLED) screen that's been used that much has heavy burn out. A solid white image, corner to corner, at medium brightness setting and photo taken with fast shutter speed will prove him wrong.
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>>382277258
Still not the same thing.
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>>382277115
>amoled
this meme needs to end, OLED, AMOLED, SUPER AMOLED are the fucking same
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>>382277242
>phone poster

No I'm just holding out on 4k till oled 4k is a thing
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>>382277319
you wouldn't want it, phone poster
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>>382276365
I know about the a series thinkpads with ips displays you fucking retard. I'm saying that TN shit was every where in the mid 2000s
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>>382277378
Why wouldn't I want it? It would be glorious all that color accuracy
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>>382277446
the color accuracy doesn't last a year
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>>382277475
I had my note 5 for about 3 and it never got even a little burn in they gave me 144 towards a trade in for a galaxy s8 plus
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>Acer Predator XB271HU

Good for 1440p 144Hz IPS or just another meme?
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>>382276869

GN246HL/VG248QE poster? Can't you just buy something better for the money? These aren't especially cheaper than the superior alternatives (pretty much every other 144hz 1080p monitor compared to these) in the US or EU.
XF240H or G2460PF for a cheapo choice.
XG2401, 24GM79 or even C24FG70 (C24FG73 about to come out) for a slightly more expensive, better one.
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>>382277475
actually to add to this, oled doesn't have anything to do with color accuracy in the first place
no professional studios attempt to use oled for color accuracy, they are poorly rated for these tasks

you're thinking "color vibrancy"
OOH IT'S BRIGHT AND SHINY, DON'T YOU LOVE IT, PHONE POSTER?
YEAH I BET YOU LOVE YOUR OLED PHONE
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>>382275610
>6ms
>Horrendous
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>>382257402
I like to draw and color stuff as well as help design graphics and other images, but I also like to play games.
For my case, should I go for IPS or TN? I don't know if I can get away with one over the other by changing the settings on the monitor to what I need.
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>>382277902
ips at least it will help you get a better job done
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>>382277902
For graphics stuff IPS no doubt.
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>>382277310
Isn't SUPER AMOLED just a thing because Samsung wanted SAM OLED (Samsung OLED)?
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>>382278031
>>382278038
Cool. Thanks for the input.
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All LCDs are shit.
>tfw no SED display
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>>382277660
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As someone using a 1070 Nvidia, I'm looking for a decent monitor, no intentions to go beyond 1080p at the moment, suggestions?

Is the meme configuration tool even worth it?
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>>382278253
np bro
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>>382278413

Samsung C24FG75 will be out soon
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>>382277654
I'm going from console to PC so it can't be too horrible. If it's a slight improvement over a 55" TV then I'll take it, but I'll invest in 144Hz later
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Surface conduction electron display when.
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>>382278579
SED is dead as shit, my guy.

It's done.
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>>382257402
TN is garbage for "I'ma go esports pro" manchildren. When you've been on an TN screen with its shit color and then you go to IPS you don't want to go back. You will bot notice the 1 millisecond faster response time, you will notice the colors and viewing angles being shit.
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>>382278774
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>>382278891
This, you will not notice the terrible lag. I love my IPS!
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>>382278513
any release date?
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>>382279083
I know, SED was too good for this world. All of the benefits of OLED but with none of the drawbacks.
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there's no universal answer
some IPS panels aren't great and some TN panels aren't great either
always do in-depth research into the monitor you want

pick a resolution, refresh rate, and if you want gsync/freesync support. from there, see what options you have. read reviews. watch videos. inform yourself
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>>382278513
>Samsung C24FG75
>curved
Good god no.
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I will always prefer higher refresh rates which usually translates to TN because I like videogames but if I had the money I would buy a high refresh rate IPS.
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There is no good reason to buy TN nowadays. Back when IPS was limited to 60Hz you could argue "do I want good picture quality or 144Hz", but now that IPS can do 144Hz its "do I want 144Hz IPS or am I a blind poorfag."
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>>382257402
What about VA panels?
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>>382280276
Has IPS evolved past the glow issues? No? Then TN is still the superior choice for gaming and other media content.
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>>382264110
>at least when you're using an IPS you will never see your reflection when the screen goes black

both of my ips monitors may as well be mirrors when black.
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>>382280489
I played a 120Hz TN screen for years before switching to 144Hz IPS. You're deluding yourself if you think IPS glow is worse for content than TN just being absolute shit color.
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>>382257402
If you're rich then IPS 144hz.

If you have or will have a gpu that can reliably do more than 60fps on games that matter like action/adventure/fps then TN.

If not, IPS.
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>>382280742
I don't know man. I'd take slightly more washed out colors over grey blacks any day.
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>>382270210
Except colors and viewing angles, but who cares about that shit?
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>>382280771
>FPS mattering in adventure games
can't wait to play Secret of Monkey Island with over a hundred FPS!
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>>382271379
have fun with the 5-10ms response time..
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If I'm switching to PC from consoles would an IPS 1080p 4ms monitor be better than any TV?
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>>382280980
Not you're not getting actually black black on TN either. CRT, Plamsa or OLED is your only choice for actually black black.
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>>382281060
You're deluding yourself if you think you need any less than 5ms if you're not playing twitch based shit like CS or fighting games on a competitive level.
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>>382280489

FALD HDR monitors will effectively bandaid over the entire glow issue. Look at the CES footage for the pg27uq.
Still not a complete fix, need per-pixel backlight for that.

Hopefully the Freesync version wont cost 2000$
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>>382281327
No but still far, far closer to black blacks than IPS.
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>>382281445
Depends on on the model. Overall 99% percent of people viewing IPS vs TN side by side for picture quality will chose IPS as the better one.
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>2017
>implying TN
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>>382281341
where the fuck do you think we are?
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>>382257402
IPS 144hz with G-SYNC
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>>382282636
in one of the most pleb boards here
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>>382257402
IPS. The "TN for gaming" meme needs to die.
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>>382281060
https://www.amazon.com/PG278QR-G-SYNC-Gaming-Screen-Monitor/dp/B01N4ENDXR/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

IPS with 144hz and 1ms response time. Stay poor.
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>>382283273

it's the PG278QR, the 165hz replacement for the TN equipped PG278Q. The IPS version is PG279Q

Also, these companies haven't been bold enough to quote 1ms for an IPS monitor yet. Eizo and Samsung did it with their VA ones though, because of the strobing. All the 1440p 144hz G-Sync IPS monitors are 1ms as well, if you count ULMB in that reasoning
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>>382283849

oh yeah, LG did quote 1ms for their 24MP59G. 75hz IPS monitor with single strobing, how rude
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