Did cryptofags kill affordable PC gaming?

After need for normal pc + online tip over 5 year pc is still cheaper, so no

>>382244592

Yes.

Not even Nvidia cards are safe now.

You would think both AMD and Nvidia would be happy to just ramp up production combined with stores limiting 1 per customer. That would make most people happy.

>Was just about to buy a mid-rang video card to upgrade my otherwise fine computer.

Well fuck you all then.

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>>382244592
Should I sell my gtx 780 ti for 10 times of the initial price?

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You could afford a million of those if you'd have bought ETH a few months ago

I'm not sure what I'm looking at desu
are graphics cards getting their own version of scalpers or something?

>>382244767
nvidia is coming out with a 1060 with no video output

this will be a non issue within 2 months

>>382245187
Ethereum miners bought everything out

>>382245239
Link?

I've always wished they made blower style gpus like this for better cooling and then use the hdmi on mobo.

>>382245559
>and then use the hdmi on mobo.

i don't think you understand how computers work bruh

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>tfw got a 1060 last black friday for $200

must suck to be a late adopter

>>382245673
Does this not work?

I have actually never tried plugging it into the mobo one. (I am referring to the one on the back)

>>382245753
.......no, dude. that isn't how computers work lol

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>tfw I will buy again when it finishess dropping
>tfw will be a MILLIONAIRE by 25

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>>382245828
I don't believe you.

>>382245993
bleieve what you want you have no idea how computers work

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>>382244592

So glad I bought my 470 when it first came out.

Looking at eBay, prices START at £200, which is what I paid brand new.

>>382245993
The GPU does not route it's output through the Mobo. Unless you plug straight into the GPU you're not getting anything from it. Mobo ports are only for integrated shit

>>382245993
That HDMI slot will be using your CPU's onboard GPU, not your GPU in the PCI slot. Howver, this may be nice for SLI/crossfire applications.

I have no idea why GPUs are being used again for mining as we all know that APUs built for the task are several magnitudes better.

>>382245239
Nobody will buy them, miners want to sell their fried cards to gamers. Only thing that would work is cards that have replaceable cooling components.

>>382246416
>>382246234
>>382246095
I can't fucking believe it, I always thought you could choose. ty lads

>>382244592
Cryptomemers are pure scum.

>>382246457
>Nobody will buy them

yes i'm sure they won't be sold out instantly.

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Everything looks fine from my end :^)

>>382246523
>has 980
>has been running all his games on integrated video
>hates nvidia for "ripping him off"

slash v slash

I want cryptocurrency to crash and burn

>>382246636
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Nah I've always been using the one on the videocard, it's just I always thought you could use any and change it on the settings

>>382246561
A couple idiots will, but everyone with brains will wait for ones with video ports

Save ten bucks now or flip it later when it breaks for more than MSRP?

>>382245179
Good luck changing your ETH to USD :)

>>382246942
you're smarter than everyone at nvidia

I wonder how much I could get for my 390.

>>382246612
>1050

You are like a little baby

How much would my Asus 970 go for?

>>382244592
Yeah, but it's a blessing in disguise. Now I can save my money for an even better system in the future. Hopefully when the craze dies down.

>>382246687
Soon.

This event will kill the Video Card Industry too, hear my words.

>>382247280
>Yeah, but it's a blessing in disguise

kind of not really since the 1060 6gb is one of the best cards ever relative to price/performance :(

if anybody desperately needs to upgrade the 1050 TI will actually run everything fine, it even runs prey close to 60 fps on high

>>382247013
That's not much of an accomplishment

>>382244592
gah its so dumb.

by the way the more retards building mining rigs there are the more bitcoins there will be the less value you'll get in return. its like running as fast as you can to stay where you are.

>>382247505
>by the way the more retards building mining rigs there are the more bitcoins there will be the less value you'll get in return. its like running as fast as you can to stay where you are.
not true, whoever mines those coins first gets the huge pay off so there is a good reason to do this which is why you see many people do it.

its just a modern day gold rush with the usual historic outcome.

>needing more power than what's necessary to play CSGO and Rocket League and Dolphin emulator

You're PC gaming wrong, dumb nigger.

the entire bitcoin market will eventually be people mining bitcoin so that they can buy bigger bit coin mining rigs so that they can mine more bitcon ad infinitum

and all this so that unhackable or something I don't know its so stupid.

>>382247598
>csgo

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>tfw saving money for 6 months
>finally ready to build nice PC
>this shit happens
>now it's literally impossible to get decent videocard unless for 200% of the price
Just fucking kill me, guys. All I wanted is to be a part of glorios master race but I just give up. What the actual fuck.

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>tfw I bought it when it was $399

>>382247761
>being a little bitch who can't handle competitive games

>>382247763
Get everything but the GPU mid to late july. Wait two months and then pick up the gpu when the prices go back to something more reasonable.

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>when the market fucks itself so hard that prebuilts are more cost-effective

>>382247734
it gets too hard to mine coins after a while, it should eventually slow down hard.

>>382247763
Woah then you'll be able to play early acess shitty preformance games

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>>382247868
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

PC GAMING ALWAYS WINS

MUH GABEN LORD SAVIOR WILL SAVE US

>>382247845
I'm scared prices will never go down. Fucking miners will keep buying everything.

>>382247763
Haven't miners been avoiding the top end? Just get a 1080 my dude, $500 and you're set for like 7 years.

>>382245707
The 1060 is uneffected dipshit. Miners are buying up the 1070 because the power output is way better for the price than the other 10-series cards. I personally wanted a 1070 because getting a 1060 wouldn't be a big enough upgrade.

>>382247591
yeah, exactly. when this shit starts hitting the front page of /v/ Id say we're there. it hit its peak

why can't there be a crypto currency that isn't a huge electricity sink anyway? I mean thats what this is all tied to you may as well go buy shares in a coal mining company because the more retards that are mining bit coins the more coal we're going to need so you'll make money either way

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>>382247868
Who could this happen?
glad I built last year

>>382247973
>The 1060 is uneffected dipshit

why would you have this attitude when you are not only wrong but clearly wrong and everyone in the thread knows you're wrong?

why would you insult the other man, coming from the position of being the most ignorant person in this entire thread?

dipshit.

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>>382247971
Nah. They bought literally everything.

Just looked at my order from December 28th of last year, $430 for a 8GB 1070. I remember thinking that was more than I'd like to pay for it, thank God I pulled the trigger

Media is reporting on how to make money by mining, it'll die soon.

RAM, however, will be fucked for years to come

>>382247886
yeah and then everyone who thinks there so smart for doing this right now will all try to recoup there considerable investment at the same time dumping a fuck load of supply of bitcoin onto the market at the same time demand will stagnate or down

>>382248332
>RAM, however, will be fucked for years to come

production of ram can be ramped up with a hand signal

production of video cards cant

>>382248332
What's up with RAM?

>>382246457
This
The reason they were such a popular option in the first place is miners would make money back from the card (through mining), and then when they reach a certain state they would sell them off to gamers for extra 'profit'.
Cutting out the gamers = less profit = miners are more reluctant to buy.

>>382248389
phone faggots using 16 gb ram for some reason.

no idea if production can ramp up or not.

I just built a PC with a 1070 last week, prices are only going to get worse so I feel like I lucked out.

>>382247971
See the first response, even 1080s are starting to go for desperate miners, 1080tis are probably next due to shortage of stock and that most cards are going second hand for like 500 anyway.

>>382248464
>Cutting out the gamers = less profit = miners are more reluctant to buy.

reselling the cards is not part of the plan to anyone who is serious about this.

>>382248332
>it'll die soon.
LMAO
no it won't the "GET RICH THROUGH BITCOIN!!!!!!" media play will continue at least for another year that's at earliest too.

>>382248389
Smart phones started using DDR4

>>382248552
Yeah but most people doing this aren't very bright so the end result is the same.

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>>382244592
>tfw I bought a 1060 with Latin American dollars and it was cheaper than this
What the fuck is going on?

>>382248552
>reselling the cards is not part of the plan to anyone who is serious about this.
lol?

they definitely plan on reselling some useless gpus once it costs more money to mine a coin than its worth.

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I feel like I dodged a huge bullet when I made my PC when I did. When did this price increase start? I finished by build not even a month ago.

>>382244592
>affordable PC gaming
High end PC hardware has never been affordable for the average joe.

>>382244592
>being poor
>unironically buying console priced GPUs
loooool

All I ever wanted was a rx580. I finally started working 40hr a week to savs up and this happens. Now I have to play the waiting game AGAIN for either new stock or Vega.

>all i ever wnated was
>AMD

bruh when you have a job and money you buy nvidia

>>382248803
You have to wait for the mining markets to go bust sweetie not new stock.

Is it easy to get into these coin things?

>>382244592
Only until the next crash, then they'll be even cheaper than before for a little while before normalizing again

Cryptocurrency needs to be fucking purged

>>382248687
>tfw not a spic
Feels great.

>>382248903
You can make a whooping $3 per day if you try

>>382248979
What the fuck does this even mean? I already bought it and it was cheaper than $400 a few months ago.

>>382249012
Oh, hey. That's $3 more than I make every day. Do I need a good GPU for that or can I run with a toaster PC?

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>>382248969
>Publishers start charging cryptocurrency exclusively online for video games, only way to get vidya with real money is through brick & mortar stores

>>382248579
no, it won't
it lasts a few months and then it's dead for a couple years

this is a continuing trend
it'll be funny when the eth bagholders go into despair mode

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>>382248174
Oh shit, I left Amazon for a day and suddenly the 1060s got fucked too lmao. Sorry about that anon.

>>382248903
they will eventually be one of the biggest crashes in history but for now they are fine. It's a giant "greater fool" investment, aka everyone wants to invest to make money but the only value is to sell to idiots who think it will keep going up. Everything about them is basically BS hype.

>>382248389
Smart phones using a lot of RAM
Plus Samsung wasting a shitload of RAM on their portable C4/Note 7 line of phones.

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>>382244592
>cards alone are more expensive than current gen consoles

>>382248886
Screw Njewdia I'd rather poo in the loo with AMD than support the jews.

1060 is a poverty price point card anyways

just get amd if you're on a budget, or get a job

you can get a 16nm pascal g104 for like %700

>>382249131
Well that anon is ignoring energy costs so don't get too excited bitch. And yes it relies on which system you have, you can't just run it off a cheap laptop and make money.

What goes into the making of a gfx card? I mean the factory has to be incredibly complex. Its probably got several layers of clean rooms. Electricity, power. You're talking about rare earth metals. So the mining and processing of vast tracts of raw ore. And all the logistics of which Bitcoin likely has a bigger manufacturing footprint than a fucking bar of gold. Its fucking stupid.

>>382249231
AMD has an office in Israel, Nvidia doesn't.

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>>382249372

>>382249291
Oh. Rip. I guess it's back to not making money.

>>382249332
Welcome to the new world, enjoy your stay.

>>382247008
eth to btc to usd
you retard fag

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>mfw 1050 Ti and not upgrading in the foreseeable future

Maybe when nvidia releases the 1250.

>>382249332
Meh. Electronics aren't really about vast amounts of resources. It's about all the ENERGY that goes into producing them. + if they're for mining all the electricity all the miners flow through them. But that's how economies work. All these fags are at least doing one part of the world a favour.

yeah good. fuck pcfags

theyre all a bunch of elitist retards

>>382249372
Intel/Nvidia has a fucking plant in israel.

>>382249498
Good luck finding a nonscammy vendor to switch ETH to BTC :)

>>382249547
>It's about all the ENERGY that goes into producing them
Exactly. May as well buy energy stocks. Thats what its all tied to.

>>382249332
humans are fucking stupid. Imagine rooms of machines all cracking away to make imaginary points that for some reason we decided to value

I will give you 100 of my personal points for $10,000. want it?

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>>382244592

>mfw found a rx 570 for $210 at micro center

Want to sell it, but I find it hard to believe anybody is actually paying these scalping prices.

>>382249712
vendor?
you just throw it on an exchange and the transaction is done in less than 15 minutes

why are you talking so haughtily about things you have no knowledge about?

I don't even know what a gpu is supposed to cost right now. Aren't 1070s like 500 or whatever anyways.

>>382247763
legitimate question, why did this suddenly happen?
What changed so quickly?

>>382249712
already did and bought my last rig with the money
x4 1080ti

>>382249620
This is great for PC dude. The short term doesn't matter. Nvidia and AMD will make dosh off these retards.

>>382249831
they will
price goes up with demand if supply doesnt change

>>382249920
>x4 1080ti
imagine being this retarded

>>382249831
Ebay has the option to sort by actual sold items. See if you can profit some $$.

>>382249915
ransomware put bitcoin in the spotlight after a few years drought
bitcoin boomed
altcoins boomed because bitcoin boomed

bitcoin is losing steam
altcoins are losing steam
the crash and despair will be soon, again, like last time

>>382246457
you can replace cooling components even now, literally there are aftermaker gpu coolers available.

>>382249915
It's slightly profitable to mine for eth and cryptocurrencies. Hence everyone is buying them up and mining. Since right now everyone wants to pick up random new cryptos since some have been successful.

Basically a gold rush mentality. Look up graphs of cryptos.

What happened? Why are they buying all high end GPUs now?

>>382247152
1050 is the best card that can be just dropped into a $100 Sandy Bridge i5 Dell/HP/Lenovo office shitbox to make a console killer

I bought a 1050ti recently. Am I good?

>>382249876
Baited for this exact response

>>382250142
wow you're sooooooooo cool ;)

>>382250141
for 1080p, yeah

>>382250141
nope, the crypto jews will hack your video card and force you to mine bitcoins.

enjoy stuttering, frame drops, single digit FPS

>>382250092
Mainstream took notice of Bitcoin and Eth success and are now mentioning how you can "make money easily with just the graphics card already in your computer!" since ASIC stuff is too confusing for them, but most people can understand the concept of a graphics card. So idiots are buying them up like crazy to try and mine before the bubble bursts.

>>382250046

I'm pretty scared of scammers pulling the "empty box" shit. Any way to insure myself against shit like that?

>>382250104
that will last 1year, after that the console will get games while the pc will sucks, and if you want to get better parts you have to change all

>>382250186
Don't hate the player, hate the game b, going to holiday in Cali with my new money ;)

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>>382244592
not really. i bought mine last year for 450. price has only gone up 10 bux on my current gpu and that's not really too bad considering the situation.

ya'll niggas need a microcenter near you.

>>382250291
Threaten to kill them if they scam you.

Serious question since knowledgable thread and I hate /g/. What's up with CPUs? Are they actually back to competitive between amd and Intel?

It seems like we have been in a rut CPU wise and price wise. I'm wondering why there aren't I5s for $50, did Moore's law get fucked or is it just intel's corner on the market and lack of competition? Shouldn't everything be cheap as fuck, considering 5+ year old CPUs run everything fine.

>>382250034
i just bought this with free money plus when the coin crash i can keep a 1080ti for gaming

I read the website for bitcoin mining. I still don't quite get how mining works, it doesn't seem like there is any substance to these transactions. Where is the money actually coming from?

Okay can i have the long explanation on the whole thing happening with the mining and the prices going up ?

>>382250440
Smoke and mirrors, hopes and dreams. It works like real money. The promise that for this amount of paper/numbers you can a certain equivalent.

>>382250192
Haha I'm still on 720p

>>382250291
On ebay? No. Ebay will cuck the seller every time there's an issue.

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Illiterate here, what is a cryptocurrency miner and why do they need GPUs so badly?

>>382250440
Literally nowhere. A value just changes to show you have one more coin. Nothing is backing these currencies. I guess you could count the time people are willing to run their rigs?

>>382250440
>>>>>>>bitcoin mining as a normal consumer
HA HA HA HA HA
You can't beat the Russians/Chinese.

>>382249824
it depends on what you get out of it. im just disappointed because the first internet currency is still inherently tied into fossil fuels. its like, whats the point. how is it any better than the dollar, or gold.

>>382250332
hate what game? crypto?

you were the one spouting ignorance about its usage so i'm going to assume you mean something else
enjoy your mere change i guess, well you're already blowing it so maybe that's kind of mean to say

>>382250412
They're "actually back to competitive" in the sense that AMD has finally caught up to Intel's performance from 5 years ago and Intel hasn't bothered to improve performance in 5 years

>why are people paying so much money for new CPUs that are no better than old ones
Because they're shiny

>>382250583
Not him but, it's just speculation then ?

>>382249824
humans are fucking stupid. Imagine rooms of machines all cracking away to make pieces of paper and bits of metal that for some reason we decided to value
>I will give you 100 dollars for literally any other object which serves a useful purpose. want it?

>>382244592

Yes.

>>382244767
>You would think both AMD and Nvidia would be happy to just ramp up production

It's not that simple. Cryptocurrencies are extremely volatile and ramping up production takes months which may lead to excess inventory when the demand is no longer there. AMD has had trouble with inventory write downs and reckless production has even killed companies (THQ and uDraw tablet).

>>382250412
Its getting harder and harder to actually get more transistors on the chips of that size, so Moore's Law is starting to hit some physical limitations now with current manufacturing tech. On top of that, previously to AMD's newest chip they've kind of been seen as a joke or the poor man's cpu so Intel has not needed to drastically lower prices.
Extra note: Newer generations of i5's can run circles around the originals i7's so just that one number won't let you know everything about how powerful the chip is and its relative price.

>>382250440
Hoping you can sell your imaginary points to someone dumber than you who will buy at a higher price.

The legitimate use is all black market and tax/authority evasion. I'm not sure if CIA or types like that would use it though because it's kind of a red flag.

>>382250736
Electricity doesn't come from fossil fuels. Unless you live in a 3rd world country.

>>382250745
Goddamn, I knew Intel being Israeli was what is fucking the consumers on CPU

All the other companies are focusing on mobile chips right?

>>382250749
it's not all speculation, it's a decentralized way to trade something that cost money to acquire

no entity can stop you from transferring it from one entity to another
it's also easy as fuck to launder

>>382250412
AMD Ryzen is actually very competitive to Intel's line up and Intel has not really responded well to it.
I'd say the CPU market is going to get pretty competitive soon.
>Did Moore's Law get fucked
yes, we reached a size of transitor that's pretty difficult to make smaller cheaply

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here's hoping for all the miners to start panic selling their hundreds of cards 4 cheep

>>382250749
No its just the inherit principle behind money. It's just a promise of value that has none if people would stop giving a shit.

As long as they do, anything (even bitcoins) can have "value".

>>382250714
not quite right. it comes from electricity which comes from fossil fuels. pretty much the same as every other currency. the us dollar is backed by the world's willingness to trade their oil for dollars. even gold. mining operations are basically a function of fossil fuels. i thought bit coin was different but its not.

>>382251060
Legit question: won't those cards have a shit-tier lifecycle? Being packed by some fat, sweaty, Redditor in a shitty plastic crate working at max power in between other hot, maxed out cards can't be good.

>>382250740
No the baiting. I was bored, I'm sorry. And also, it's enough that splurging on a few holidays in one year won't put a dent on the funds b :)

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>>382251060
>buying cards that have been on full load 24/7 for months

>>382250435
>free money
its like winning the lottery, you're going to go broke one retard investment at a time.

enjoy.

>>382250864
if you live in a country with a powerful military it does

>>382251040
Aren't we just approaching the limit now? So technically over the past 5 years we have been doing good.

Seems to be entirely the competition/market thing that has been slowing intel down.

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>>382250864
I don't know about that senpai

>>382250674
kys

>>382251232
Like I said, a 3rd world country.

>>382250674
gpus are great at the calculations that cyrpto currency use.
More gpus, more currency you generate

>>382246942
>a coupe idiots
A fuckload you meant.

>>382251185
I know for a while there was a big deal with underclocking graphics cards for mining just to avoid that problem. Now I think people just use Risers to help space the cards out more and decent cooling systems.

>>382251289
rude

>>382251214
they usually undervolt the cards

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HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I MADE MY MISTAKES

>>382250674
>anime
No fuck off, stick to fapping kid

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>>382251040
>AMD Ryzen is actually very competitive to Intel's line up
Keep telling yourself that.

>>382251290
Should have let Hitler conquer you t b h

>>382245179

>buy ANS now

you mean

>>382251369
Excellent chart, I want to shake the hands of the guy who made it.

Are 1080tis being up marked too? I'd love to sell mine and get like 1.5k. I can wait to play pc games again until the prices come down. I have consoles and other hobbies as well

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>>382251361
>getting triggered from a drawing

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at least i'm getting some nice wojacks out of this

>>382251214
GPS are strong
they could survive for more than 20 years of use, they're not harddrives

>>382251486
at least shipping is free

>>382251369
>>382251449
Please someone post "that chart".

>>382251394
Ja, das ist richtig.

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>>382251361
where do you think you are onii-chan?

>Wanted to buy a RX480 because it's about what I'm looking for in regards to power and cost
>Put off buying one
>Decently priced ones are sold out everywhere
>"The RX580 is good too"
>Also sold out everywhere
>1060s/1070s are short on stock because of cryptofucks buying up all the 480s/580s
>As Vega is looking to be the AMD equivalent to a 1080 it'll probably be beyond my price range and more power than I want
Why does my computer have to be falling apart at a time like this?

>>382251651
/v/ - video games

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>>382251467
>being this low iq you don't understand how a fucking miner works
Loooool

>>382251369
This chart is brilliant.

>>382251369
KEK, i was really close to bite it

>>382251725
exactly this isn't reddit where you came from

>>382251286
I'm no expert in any way but in the past five years we went from like 22nm to 14nm. I'm not sure what the physical limitations are but by the time we reach them we will be using quantum computing

>>382251723
>out of my price range
Save up faggot, it'll be worth it. Sell your laptop and downgrade to a chromebook, or just stop spending money for the next two weeks. Skip lunch twice a week or something. Don't go out on the weekends. If you can spend $250 on a video card you can spend $500 or more, you just need more time and discipline

>Bought a 1070 the instant they came back in stock a few months after launch
>Felt rather foolish for being such an early adopter
>this shit happens

Feeling pretty good, I've been burned by refurbished goods before so I'm not looking towards the eventual flooding of used cards that's going to happen.

>>382251852
*shifts sunglasses*
that punk kid didn't know what he was gettin himself into hehh.. this is frikkin /v/!

>>382244767
They're rightfully aware that crypto can crash at any minute and thousands of GPUs will flood the market.

>>382244592
For now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/6j9hwf/bought_too_many_gpus_delimma

>>382247868
not real capitalism

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>don't buy a 1050 ti, just buy a 470

Well, what now faggots? Which is the budget card?

>>382250583
>>382250714
>>382250825
Thanks for the clarification. Strange stuff, guess I'd make a terrible banker.

>>382250291
Put a declared value on it, make sure it's weighed properly at the PO/carrier, ask for a signature if you really wanna be safe.

Anything goes wrong and you blame the carrier, get the declared value as reimbursement.

>>382247969
>I'm scared prices will never go down.
don't be, once the ethereum bubble pops things will go back to normal

>>382250363
There's Microcenter 30 minutes away from me, I ought to check out if they haven't been hit by the cryptoscalpers.

>>382252147
I mean the 470 is better but they're all sold out as well so the next best thing is a 1050ti.

Why are idiots buying up GPUs again for mining?

Did electricity somehow become free when I wasn't looking?

The reason why cards are getting more and more expensive nowadays is because of the processing power and circuitry that involved with them now.

Even a few years ago graphic cards were designed to basically just be a smaller mobo that had dedicated VRAM processing and got it's power off of the main mobo. However due to quite hitting a wall in the Processing Unit technology that's so thick and hard that by the end of the I9 and Ryzen releases the only difference between the two units will be higher OC speeds at best, the GPU department has since just be tacking on more and more shit.

Now graphic cards are no longer just Video-dedicated processing Motherboards. Now they're essentially a computer all by themselves with a dedicated processor, RAM, Mobo, and Overclocking rates.

The 1080 ti for example could be reconstructed as a console and it'd be the most powerful console on the market just from that architecture alone, nothing else.

Eventually we're going to hit a wall with the Graphic Processing department too though, and that's unfortunately fast approaching then soon we are going to be on a very, very, very long hiatus of new upgrades to PC builds because the difference between different chipsets and architecture at that point will be who's able to Overclock with less heat.

AMD, Intel and Nvidia all saw this coming years ago and are trying to basically prepare for hibernation because of it. The GTX 2080 for example is going to have nothing better on it from the 1080ti outside of more VRAM and maybe a better Overclocking rate.

Honestly anyone looking to upgrade, I would just recommend getting the 1080ti right now even if it's high in price because you will literally not have to ever even think about upgrading to a new card until the damn thing dies.

>>382251369
HOLY SHIT INTEL JUST BLEW AMD OUT OF THE WATER 2 WHOLE FPS LEAD IT'S INCREDIBLE JERRY I'M GONNA EXPLODE FROM EXCITEMENT HISTORY'S BEING MADE RIGHT HERE LADIES AND GENTS

>>382252502
if you jump on to a successful cryptocurrency early on, you can make a ton of money. that's what people are trying to do.

>>382252502
In Slavland and China, you can steal electricity rather easily.

>>382244592

They're at it again? They didn't learn when they tried to get rich off Bitcoin mining years ago?

>>382252345
maybe ransomware will really take off. thatd be great for bitcoin prices! cryptos are a cancer and they need to die

>>382252019
>what the guy is trying to do is pretty much ilegal in NY.

>>382252626
Damn that is a depressing post. If CPU/GPU don't advance that is going to suck ass for video games.

>>382244592
No. The jews inflating the prices did.

>>382252502
early mining makes you money despite the electricity cost.

if you have some solar panels already then its dirt cheap.

>>382253035
the big thing holding graphical fidelity and performance back is devs not optimizing their games. the hardware is already powerful enough to have a great looking game run great too.

>>382244767
>ramp up production combined with stores limiting 1 per customer. That would make most people happy.

Sounds a fuck lot like the Switch, NES and SNES classics.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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>>382244592
I turned $2,100 into $6,700 by investing in crypto over 2 months, as a poor college student crypto is pretty fucking great. Waking up and seeing I earned $300 while sleeping is a fantastic fucking feeling.

How the fuck do you even mine cryptocurrency

How does any of that shit work

>>382253182
What is your personal guess on AI then? How is ML going to do and things like self-driving cars over the next 5 years.

I thought Intel had the theoretic technology to get down to 5nm

>>382252757
Slavlander confirms, if you live in an apartment, you can easily get around the meter and get your watts for free (well not really, all "non-registered" electricity used around the house is just split around all apartment owners and they all chip in, so basically you're stealing the watts and everybody else is paying for it). But if by some random chance you'll get busted, prepare your anus.

>>382251930
What? I could buy some top of the line shit right now but I don't want to because that would be overkill. I don't want to spend much on my new rig because I'm not really into PC gaming, but I want something that'll at least work when my friends invite me to play whatever game with them. What's the point in buying a 1080 Ti when 80% of the time it'll just be a 4chan machine?

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>>382250412
>muh Ryzen

>>382253243
Set up a wallet, join a mining group, input your wallet address to mining info and get the coins you mine. Its kind of pointless without super high end gear and ASICs though.

>>382253243
Jew+technomancy, pretty much hereteks

>>382253365
>input your wallet address to mining info
Nothing fishy here

>>382244592
holy fuck i paid £230 for that asus turbo.

that's $300

what the fuck

>>382252353
just call in advance for whatever you're looking for. best place to get pc components at the moment.

>>382251505
I just want crypto to crash to see the /biz/ shitpost

>>382253365
but what is mining? like how does getting your gpu to process some numbers give you e-bux

>>382250412
Pentium G4560 for low budget builds
Ryzen for anything else

>>382251369
That chart is hilarious. Mind if I save it?

>>382253454
wallet destination addresses can be posted publically, that's what happens when you see a "DONATE WITH BITCOIN" sign anywhere on the web

there's no reason to keep it private, because it's not private, everyone can look at every transfer to an address by looking at the blockchain

>>382253454
Hey man, its just the wallet address and it could be from a mining program on your own machine, or from those group mining sites. Its mostly safe.
>>382253609
What you're doing is performing calculations for the master node and keeping the network up to date on its transactions so no one can effectively double spend. You are basically being paid for offering your processing power to make the coin stay functional.

>>382253201
great.
now all you need is a ransomware outbreak to create demand for you
i really hope the government of the worlds crack down on this
the us dollar has a military backing it and we shouldn't be so weak as to let this untraceable currency linked to ransomware run amuck on our society and institutions.

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>>382253784

>>382253609
You use your computer's processing power to solve the equations used to verify coin payments so that people can't game the system. It's similar to that you can do for sadpanda and Cambridge.

>>382253784
This is literally the most American post I have ever seen on this site.
>We should be the only thing that matters in the world.

>nobody posted about upcoming PoS
in a year minining will become completely fucking absolete you bunch of fucking whining shits
stop posting about things you don't know anything about

Bitcoin niggers are a stain on humanity and honestly Bitcoin being shut down would be beneficial

>>382244592
>Mexico
>Prices not affected
GTX 1060 is still $210 USD.

>>382244767
>Sign contract for 5 years to pump production of you good
>cripto crash in 2 and a half years

>>382253454
Are you stupid?

>>382253941
Staking is great, but PoSW went to shit and everyone laughs at the idea now.

>>382253609
As I understand it, the amount of bitcoins that can be produced is finite because basically they're just a fixed-length combination of bits, but the total amount of these combinations is not infinite so every new set of bits is valuable. Or not, I have no idea, I just read it somewhere and never googled further.

>>382253931
Not a burger, but i need the Dollar to be the only thing that matter in the world.

t. Jew

Why don't the companies just make more to meet demand?

>>382253941
>list of coins that became more successful because of PoS
>
>
>

eth is only in its position because it's able to be competitively mined without resorting to asics
once the mining stop, the coin will cease to gain value

>>382249915
Bitcoin was $2800
ETH meme was $90 which was easy to mine
Miners found that RX 470 was perfect to mine, so the RX 570.

And thats how everyone started mining.
Chinese specially.

What are the chances of this shit crashing hard and causing mass suicides?

>>382252019
I love how even Leddit is BTFO'ing this retard.

>>382254103
Oh shit boi, I have an RX470 in my PC right now. Am I gonna be a millionaire?

>>382253976
Yeah but you live in Mehico.

>>382254094
Making a GPU takes several months.

>>382250674
Here is how it works in simple words.

Mining = Do math shit for people and companies
Get paid for everything you resolve.
Cryptocurrency = Your pay.

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>>382248225
>tfw my local country still has reasonable prices

>>382254121
100%

Every cryptocurrency has lost the majority of it's value more than once

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>>382253931
motherfucker you see this shit? this is not a joke. something needs to be done.

>>382254094
because that would lower prices while simultaneously costing them more money to ramp up production. it would be worthwhile for them to meet demand if the cryptocurrency boom wasn't just a flash in the pan, but it is and things will soon return to normal.

>>382244592

>1060 serie now cost more that any console

>>382254121
it's inevitable
btc can't break 3000, the crash will be soon
if btc DOES break 3000, then it will stall again at 4000, and that will be where the crash happens

the fresh spotlight is over, too many people are in the hunt now, and it will collapse, like it does every time
bagholders will either commit suicide or wait 3 years to break even during the next time crypto trends

>>382254121
>crashing hard and causing mass suicides
None, it's not some super-expensive investment like mortgage, it's just nerds trying to make money from nothing. It will crash eventually, but people with half a brain will sell all their GPUs for cheap and walk away long before that happens.

>>382254204
No, you could mine $3 daily if you do it correctly 24/7.
Thats not taking in consideration the electricity bill but should be around $20-30 unless you live in a shitty place where you get overcharged for energy.

>>382254121
100%, happens often.

>>382254349
>not buying as much of that shit as you can when the crash happens

retard

How do we kill these niggers and claim our rightful gramphics?

>>382244592
Should I sell my 480? I have a 7970 laying around that's in decent enough condition and could probably last me another year OC'd.

>>382254094
>make an extra five million cards for miners
>few months later cards are done and hit shelves
>eth crashes in five minutes by 700%
>miners sell off GPUs
>extra stock hits shelves
See the problem? This mining joke won't last forever. Even if ETH never crashes, the difficulty will eventually rise to a point where GPU mining isn't economical.

>>382254474
you don't buy at the crash unless you're gaming the dead cat bounce
that's one of the most retarded times to buy

you buy before the next time it trends, because THAT is when it's at a low point
buy at the crash and you have your money tied up for two years at its value loses another 30%

>>382254420
Requesting screenshots of retards putting their entire life savings into crypto and having it crash
Even just this post:>>382252019
is a good look into what goes on in these retards their mind

>>382251286
There are still improvements being made, but Moore's "Law" is breaking down as we approach the limit of transistor size. It's taking longer and longer for these processes to be developed, and there's going to be a hard limit eventually.

>>382251905
Quantum computing very likely won't be replacing classical computing, at least not for a long time. It's also not a magic bullet that makes all computing faster.

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>>382254121
>BTC is gonna crash guys!!!!!!!!
lmao no, anyone that says BTC will crash has no idea what they're talking about.

>>382254664
then explain sempai

>>382254664
crash doesn't mean become valueless
crash means losing 70-80% of its value, which is inevitable

it's overvalued, it will correct
it always does

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>>382253931
>This is literally the most American post I have ever seen on this site.
And by the way, thank you. Never have I been more complimented on 4chan. So thank you Mr. whatever irrelevant europoor country you come from or pic related.

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>>382254121

This shit cost $3000 USD. The bubble should explode in few weeks. Most chinese miners are destroying his mining factories and selling because they know.

Been selling my old cards I've kept around, goddamn 290x sold for over 500, essentially what I paid for when I bought it years ago.
Either going to grab a 1080ti with what I've made or #WAITFORVEGA to see if that ends up being a shitshow or not.

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>BTC crashed when it was $800-900
>Now it´s at almost $3000
>1 BTC was $5 when it started
Why didn´t you make mad dosh /v/?
You only had to buy BTC for $5000 to get 3 million

>>382254313
Yes, and having a world economy based on the literal pioneers of the industry of war and oil is better how?

The US dollar has single-handedly destroyed the entirety of the middle-east for nigh 100 years at this point.

I'd rather have my currency revolve around the collect agreement and usage of a credit that sometimes some asshole will use for personal gain when my alternative option is literally money soaked in the blood and oil of foreign nations because the dollar literally cannot exist without the war industry.

>>382254802
waah waah wah wah
we numba wan

>>382254963
>killing mudslimes is bad
Whatever you say Achmed

>>382254963
>I'd rather have my currency revolve around the collect agreement and usage of a credit bla bla bla
no you dumb nibba its STILL based on energy fucking MORON

>>382254962
that's not how it works
you can't go back in time, buy a lion's share of a finite resource, and expect the value to increase

you weren't promoting the coin, you weren't introducing liquidity to the markets, you just sat on something and hoped other people would do the work
but you took those people out of the equation when you made your fantasy transaction, there aren't other people to do the work

>>382254962
>bored as fuck with gf
>whore on leddit for BTC
>earn ~500 eurobux worth of BTC in like a week
>whatever, let it sit
>it gained like 10-20 eurobux of value A DAY
>nice
>eventually sell, ended up with like 1500 eurobux in total
>use it to fund other entrepreneurial shit I always wanted to do
>make more dosh
Pretty good.

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>TFW bought LSD with 500 bitcoins back in 2011

I'm having constant suicidal thoughts because of this. Which is insane because I was a fairly happy person before bitcoin increased in value.

I wish I never bought the damn coins so I at least don't feel like I made a mistake.

>>382255278
Was the LSD fun?

>>382255278
at least you didn't spend millions of dollars on pizza

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>>382254756
Watch this 55 second video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbZ8zDpX2Mg

>>382254770
If you ask me the correction already happened when it hit $2,900 a couple weeks ago, but nobody knows what will happen. It might correct and drop 80% like you said, or it might skyrocket in price once Aug 1st hits and BTC forks. Nobody knows.

>>382255278
Get over it famalam.

>>382255278
show us the wallet transaction

>>382255278
It's how the cookie crumbled, nothing you could of done to stop it.

>>382253201
How do you know what to invest in? I'm poor as fuck college student too but I could definitely use the shekels

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>>382255278
I wonder if that pizza guy is real and if he is alive at the moment.

>>382255340
Well it gave me an introspective view of my life and made me go back to college so it's something.

Would still drop college and keep the 500 bitcoins every day though.

>>382255278
Dude stop beating your self over this.

BUTTCOINS WASN'T SUPPOSE TO BE BIG. It was just suppose to be for drugs and buying children online. Somehow by accident it got big.
Besides I threw away 200 bitcoins

>>382254962
I did, i bought bitcoin when it was $200 to pay for some h-manga scans, got 4 left that converted into 11,200.

>>382255479
>>382255278
>1.3 million dollars
No my bad you should kill yourself.

>>382254084
You are my greatest ally!

>>382255605
>It was just suppose to be for drugs and buying children online.
thats pretty fucking big man.

sounds like you fucked up.

>>382255278
At least you didn't mine thousands of coins only to have your parents destroy your rig because they think they are saving you from some evil addiction.

Bonus points: Show them the value of coins only a few years after what they did and they 'can't remember ever doing something like that'

Meanwhile I get harassed daily for being unemployed/broke.

Fuck my life.

>>382255278
I hope you enjoyed your $1,145,00 LSD.

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Pick up a PS4 Pro instead, you guys

>>382255454
nah, the correction is never the first drop after the peak
we've got another crash to correct to come

>or it might skyrocket in price once Aug 1st hits and BTC forks
it's not forking, the majority if hashing power has already signed that they will support the changes

MAKE PC GAMING AFFORDABLE AGAIN!

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>>382255278
I think you got ripped off, Anon.

>>382255693
Damn, son.

>>382255725
I already have a blu ray drive though

>>382244592
crypocunts deserve death imo

>>382255693
What the fuck? Also
>not stealing 24/7 from them from now on
>not fucking them over for the rest of their lives
>not hiring a HDD recovery service

>>382253784
This
>>382253931
Literally only america matters you eurocuck

I gave someone 12 bitcoins because they got doubles

>Countries are totally fine with a subversive alternative currency challenging the legitimacy of their dollar

We live in an age where nobody in power knows how to operate beyond a 4th grade level

>>382255919
Americans*

I couldn't blame people if they want "free cash" but I can blame them because it's idiotic. Most of them will need to hodl for months and hope the price does not go down.

>>382255919
>oy veyyy, you dirty goyim need to use my jew dollar instead of your white engineer shitcoin!
fuck off kike

>>382255847

Can your blu-ray drive play the greatest games on the market at dynamic 4K?

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>>382254963
Dumbass bitcoin miners are still totally dependent on every dumb fossil fuel producer in the world. Backed by the production of coal oil and natural gas. All backed by the US military. Which is what gives you the right to drain 21 jiggawatts of electricity every day to farm stupid bitcoins that create the incentive for chinese hackers to throw our countries into chaos. Ive seen enough! Cryptos are no longer a lark. Its time to get serious about this.

>>382256097
>electricity
>fossil fuel
Fucking Americans, kek. Stop being behind on everything and get on renewables + nuclear already. Fucking faggots.

>>382256475
What are you talking about?

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>>382252626
Can someone more tech savvy confirm if this post is total BS or not? I mean he does have a point when it comes to the VRAM thing and most "upgrades" only making a real difference in VRAM amount.

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>>382255480
You have to recognize the difference between pump/dump shitcoins that are being shilled on /biz/ vs coins that have actual use and a promising future. Also don't panic sell the moment you see a coin start dropping, never invest using your emotions.
I'd recommend the coins I have in my original post >>382253201 Those are all longterm holds that I believe will turn my 6k into 50k in 6 months time. (Assuming BTC doesn't crash)

>Storing your money at some jewish bank which gives <1% interest monthly
>Buying well-known cryptocoins like LTC or ETH and more than doubling your money monthly
Seeing these filthy nocoiners trying to cope is such a sad sight

Even budget GPU's went a little bit up in price. I had to buy my stuff as fast as I could because I noticed my 1050 ti went up like 20 bucks.

>>382256252
>Average kwh is actually cheaper than in eu

>>382256585
80% bullshit.
10% truth.
10% related to NAND price fixing.

>>382256585
Since you posted worst girl, I'm not telling you.

>>382256252
what irrelevant europoor country do you hail from by chance?

>>382256589
>You have to recognize the difference between pump/dump shitcoins that are being shilled on /biz/ vs coins that have actual use and a promising future.
pump/dump shitcoins are the best way to double your money in a month, but you need to buy before the pump happens, not during the pump

trying to short a long position with btc/ltc/eth is much riskier
and "monthly" doubling in a long position is just something that really doesn't happen

>>382250440
Learn about fiat currency and you'll know.

Won't this problem solve itself when all 21 million buttcoins get mined?

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>>382256713
According to that retarded logic Uganda > USA

>>382253976
Only the GTX 1060 3GB mini.
Everything else is $290-$320.

>>382256991
no, because nobody mines bitcoins with gpus in the first place
they mine altcoins, which they trade for bitcoins

>>382256934
haha le irrelevant XDDDD le moon le freedumbs XDDD
Amirite Reddit?? r/murica r/the_donalds REEEE

>>382244592
mining isn't even feasible though

>>382256934
Uruguay. South America, a lot whiter than your country.

I made a thread last week that gaming was dead. Nobody believed me.
Gaming on PC is dead.
The xbone one x is saved.

>>382247763
Same position and I just got a 1050 and will be able to scale up to a 1080 seamlessly when prices become sane.

>>382246457
>miners want to sell their fried cards to gamers.

If the cards are underclocked (which if you're not a retard, you'd be doing for mining to increase profit), then nothing about the card is "fried". Worst case scenario would be the fans wearing out, but that takes years.

Gamers actually put their cards through more thermal stress than miners do. The problem isn't running it hot, or cold, it's constantly swapping between hot and cold which stresses the components as they expand and contract.

>>382257098
Too embarrassed to say. Just as I suspected.

>>382257102
Bitcoins? No. Other shitcoins? Yes. For now.

>>382246523
It would work if you crossfired a relevant GPU to an AMD APU that has the same GCN chip in it, that is the only scenario though.

>>382257195
Are you serious? Are you serious dude? Ill laugh even harder if you're serious..

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>tfw made 100 grand in 3 months thanks to Ethereum and the teachings of /biz/

This place really has changed my life for the better.

>>382257326
>t. 60%

>>382257326
Calm down Jamal.

>>382255919
>challenging the legitimacy of their dollar
HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>382256589
http://www.cryptobizcentral.com/crypto-101.html

is this a good guide to get started buying coins

>>382257195
>Uruguay. South America, a lot whiter than your country.
Are you really serious dude? a fucking hybrid of spic and BR, whiter than anything?

>>382257195
I can't take someone seriously if they came from a country called U R GAY