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Do you enjoyed your Shinryu fight after ala mhigo dungeon?

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Do you enjoyed your Shinryu fight after ala mhigo dungeon?
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>>382244318
Cleared it on 3rd attempt during early access weekend.
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I cleared it with a group of absolute shitters after we took it to PF because the time would run out, it was pretty sweet
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>>382244318
>WoW baby mod deleted the last thread

How bitter do you have to be.
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>the heavens are not enough for our final showdown, my friend. let us transcend this mortal coil!
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>>382244318
>Listen to Zenos's nihilistic speech
>asks me to be his friend
>I accept him
>Fucking Yoshi-P wouldn't let me save him because every Garlean is literally Satan

The more he tries to force me to hate the Empire the more I'm going to support them.
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>>382244516
I'm still surprised how terrible character like Zenos could be so awesome
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>>382244746
Evil is attractive, anon. The Devil was an angel.
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How much gear do I need to start working into the expansion? I haven't played forever and I'm 220. Should I grind out some lore real quick, or can I just jump in?
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THE POWER TO TRANSCEND
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>it's another force everyone to log out to get rid of afkers episode
I don't care that they migrated to other servers. Balmung shitters are and will always be the worst shitters.
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>>382245062
You can just buy some vendor 255 gear + shire 260 gear
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>>382245062
You can just use peotics to gear up now.
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>>382245062
You can buy PvP gear if you want. I'm pretty sure it is good. Play some 8v8 seems it is quite fun.
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First post decides if i'll jump my last job thats under 60

>>382245062
Vendors sell 255 gear and the MSQ prolly gives you good enough ilvl for the HW story.
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>>382244318
First group spent 40 minutes attempting to clear before vote abandoning.
The second group spent 30 minutes wiping to it before vote abandoning.
The third group finally cleared it on the second attempt.

Dragons are XIV's ultimate shitter checks. Vishap curbstomped baddies so hard at the end of 2.5 that he had to get nerfed into oblivion. Nidhogg at the final steps of faith was an absolute salt mine for the first month or so. Now we have Shinryu just getting in that ass and stopping people from clearing the MSQ. Even Turn 13 only lasted just over 2 months before it got the Echo and had some adds removed from Gigaflare.

This community just can not handle dragons. Think back to the early days of ARR. Remember which dungeon was the very first roadblock for bad players? Brayflox Longstop. Remember the final boss of Brayflox? Exactly.
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>>382244698
>Nero is a complete bro
>Gaius did NOTHING wrong
>Ravus saved the world
>Zenos just wanted a friend
>Nael....okay maybe s/he wasn't worth saving

The Empire have always been /ourguys/
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Why is it that in SE the more insane you are the more fucking BEAUTIFUL your hair becomes?
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>>382244470
>kill one thread
>2 pop up
muh precious board space
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Does anyone on Primal data center wanna do anything when the servers are back up?
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>>382244698
You can't save everyone.
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I think I know who was behind the mask guys. Chances are it's someone Garlean otherwise Saris wouldn't have responded the way he did, and after the conversation about father & son.

It's Solus
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>>382246723
it's not obvious at this point? Lorebook even hints at it
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>>382246723
Varis*

Don't know why I typed an S there.
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>>382246802
Some people are saying it's Gauis or Regula
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>>382246905
>>382246723
He spit on Solus coffin and there is no hint of history between him and Gaius. Its Regula.
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>>382246723
Varis fucked hated Solus. And Solus was a big motherfucker that wouldn't fit the normal Hyur body Elidibus was using.
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>>382245506
>Zenos just wanted a friend
More like Zenos just wanted to have fun and made a friend along the way.
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>>382245506
Eula just really, really loved her brother.
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>>382246723
Elidibus only showed up after Gaius died.
He was played by ascians then got controlled by one.
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>have to catch up through HW msq
>xelphatol
>average wait time
>30 minutes
>switch to tank
>still end up standing around for 10 minutes

Ok........ I sure do love having my progress completely halted. Wish I could play the expansion I payed for
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>>382247107
>no hint of history between him and Gaius
Gaius was Solus's main man and he personally killed at least nine heirs who were planning coups. And both he and Varis were Legatii at the same time. They definitely knew each other, and there's no reason Varis wouldn't have some respect for Gaius even if he doesn't like him.
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>>382247584
Yup, my friend dropped the game after running into the giant cock block that was 2.x story quests. But if you're at xeph you don't have too much more to do for HW.
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>>382247927
I dropped the game after beating the msq and realizing heavansward wasn't any better
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>when I see people raging that they have been stuck at the final fight for days.

There's no fucking way. I refuse to believe that after DF-ing for days they don't get even one group that can clear it. Either they are bullshitting or they should fucking kill themselves.

I cleared it with randos a few days after launch with a few wipes. Nowadays it's a fucking cakewalk. Me and a couple buds run it every day for shits and giggles and for almost a week every single group we got had cleared it in one shot. It boggles my mind when I see PFs for it with text like "no noobs need to finally clear this fight". Are players really that bad at this game? I almost don't want to believe it.
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>>382247584
>>382247927
They can't leave the queues as they are now, surely they will do SOMETHING
Perhaps the adventurer in need bonus upped?
or a tank class added in 4.1/2?
or SOMETHING, because right now it is single handedly killing the game
What else did they expect though? releasing 2 of the most wanted/favorite classes as new DPS roles when DPS queues were already a tad on the long side to begin with

SAM shouldve been tank
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>>382248593
Yes, people are actually that fucking bad. I've seen people talking in LSes about how they die to the tail and need to "master" that """mechanic""". They die to the FUCKING TAIL.
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Mace for PLD fucking when Yoshi
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>>382247584
This is pretty much killing the game at this point. It already doesn't have great sub numbers, even now.

They should have either made SAM a tank, or allowed for people to solo old duties just for the story one time, so they don't have to sit in half an hour queues to progress.
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>>382248773
When DRK and/or BLM get scythe.
I want both of these things. Maces/hammers are rad as fuck.
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>>382244318
>get Shinryu as my trial roulette
>3 people immediately leave
Are 14 players this shit that they can't handle it?
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>>382249587

It's more like the party they joined is 99% likely to be shit and they'd rather take the 30 minute lockout.
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>>382248716
B...but the tail isn't even a mechanic. It's just an aoe you have to dodge. What?
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>>382250051
Exactly. The average player is actually that fucking bad.
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>>382249784
>Not just removing gear when queuing for trial so you don't meet the requirement for Shinryu
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>>382250134
>not hoping for Shinryu from roulette and helping FC mates with theirs
>Not doing this amazing boss fight as much as you can
I cant wait for EX
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>>382250097
Reminds me of a whm in my fc. We are small and have 4 ppl at 70. We have ex primals on farm since yesterday. This whm had trouble with sus NORMAL. He's 66 still. I fucking dread the point when we have to get him his ex clears. Fuuuuuck its going to be so bad. He'll probably get mad cause bad and stop playing the game (again).
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You guys all have your ixion mounts, right?
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>>382250637
Shit dude I haven't even seen Ixion yet
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>>382244318
FF8 fan service when?
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>>382246723
Literally who?
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yes
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>>382251593
Well, now we know how ex dragon fight will look like
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>>382244318
Is best boy back or can I skip this expansion?
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>>382252221
he back
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>>382252221
Everyone is back, even the shit princess.
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>>382251261
Doomtrain would be nice
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>sprout runs into S rank and gets annihilated in front of 30 people
never gets old
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What do you think the patch trials are going to be? 2.x added a bunch of old faves, 3.x added a group from one game. Will they be themed again or just random? Baked into the MSQ or optional?
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Is there a good way to do hunts as a solo player, or do I have to join a PF at the very least? I want some of the gear and the mount speed but fuck the lockouts are annoying, I can never seem to get them and they take forever to find.
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>>382253394
>even the shit princess
jesus, how horrifying
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>>382254278
I think it'll be 50/50 with story garlean mechanical stuff and primals/trials based on spinoff games like tactics ogre

I actually think we can expect a lot more glamours from dungeons to be from spinoff games like how the lv69 dungeon has the tactics ogres sets and how the lv70 drk set has the terror knight look of the same game and they look surprisingly good in the game

I just hope they continue the trend
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>>382254417
ARR ones you can solo. HW and SB ones you need to be in party so you'll get the full credit for the kill.
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Is this where we hang out until a thread gets made?
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>>382245623
Because bishonens are more threatening than hypermasculine characters in nip culture
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Say something nice about Sophia
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>>382251261
>Eden fight
>Ultimecia fight
>Seifer + Fujin + Raijin fight
Also, let me pilot a flighting garden
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>monk gets cucked in its own expansion

At this point, there is so much wrong with the job, they should scrap it and re release it in 4.1/4.2
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>>382251261
Hope never, worst game in the series
There literally nothing worth taking from it
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>Zelda threads every single day all day for a year since it was announced
>Metal Gear threads every single day since forever
>Persona threads every single day
>Overwatch threads every single day
>Elder Scrolls threads every single day
>Dark Souls
>Neptunia
>Skullgirl /e/ dumps
>Sonic
>Disgaea
>Witcher
>FE Heroes
>LOL threads and other constantly reposted off-topic threads
>all of the above constantly posted all day every single day
>but
>discussion of a brand new FFXIV expansion has a tendency to be deleted on sight
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>>382256830
I want her to rape me.
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>>382257027
Triple Triad was good
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>>382256959
Yup, went from having all the dps and no utility. To having medicore dps, and a tiny amount of utility.

They are even more fucked at this point, and it is absolutely hilarious how incompetent SE has been regarding the handling of monk.
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>>382257094
Just deal with it
We got another bumplimit thread after last one was deleted anyway
It's just some autistic fuck reports them
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the true boss is the duty finder
>Wait Time: More than 30m
im tempted to just roll tank since my first char into SB was SCH which turned out to be quite boring at 70 and the fairy gauge and overall kit seems underwhelming then i rolled a bard fresh from lvl 1 which is now lvl 69 but the queue times are really stupid currently.
the thing is i cant decide between DRK and PLD
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>>382257094
/e/ dumps make the most angry

they're so obvious, they waste so much board space, and mods do nothing about them. softcore porn is not videogames

but god forbid you accidentally post a nipple in an actual thread
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>>382257094
>breaking the rules
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>>382245113
REND
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Is there a case to be made for XIV delivering some of the highest quality finales in gaming?

2.0 MSQ ended in the ruins of the Praetorium against the Ultima Weapon in a ring of fire

2.X 8-man raid ended inside with you facing off against Bahamut with Answers playing

2.X 24-man raid had you inside the World of Darkness fighting back the Cloud of Darkness

3.0 MSQ ended up pitting you against the Knights of the Round

3.X all culminated in the battle against Nidhogg at the Final Steps of Faith were your final verse was sung.

3.X 8-man raid had you against Alexander with such moments as you traveling back in time, mid fight, to save your past self from a previous cutscene trap.

3.X 24-man raid took place atop a grand castle where Diabolos waged a huge DBZ energy ball struggle against you.

4.0 MSQ took place in the transdimensional rift against fucking Shinryu.

It's like every time XIV goes for something climactic, it NAILS it in the biggest fucking way. Even non-final bosses like Nael and Brute Justice were incredibly satisfying.
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>>382257094
We'll break 'em. We're having too much fun for them to stop us. Threads will die down eventually on its own.
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>>382244318
Yes I did. When I got it later in roulette and what was supposed to be fast 5 to 10 minutes tomes get, turned into 40 minute shitfest.

>>382244470
Last thread I saw reached bumb limit and 404ed after page 10.
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>It took people more than one try to clear this
How? All his moves are just moves from other primals, are you all a bunch of jump potion shitters
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>>382257479
XIV has good fucking style
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>>382257479
2.0 and 4.0 were the only ones they got right. Coil was also a good ending. Everything else was kind of disappointing or ok.
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>jump pld because why not
Circle of scorn is pretty cool. This I can say right off the bat
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>>382257786
>3,3
>disappointing or ok.
No, just no
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>>382247107
Who the fuck was Regula.
Sorry I'm bad with names.
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Redpill me on skill speed for SAM
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>>382257479
I'll admit shit may build up slowly, but can give a satisfying climax. That said, I'm 100% ready to leave the Xaela forever.
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>>382254331
Zenos basically lost his virginity to the WoL in the throne room. He blows his load with his ultimate attack and then just repeatedly AoE's everyone with the ripples of his orgasm until the end of the fight. Then because losing your virginity doesn't magically cure social awkwardness, he immediately wanted to move on to the weird kinky shit the same night.
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>>382257890
Which one was that? Nidghogg? Everything about the Dragonsong War and the Warriors of Darkness was so bad. The Dragonsong War lasted way too long. The Warriors of Darkness were literally pointless. Antagonized you for a small amount of time and then were like "we were good guys all along".
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>>382256830
>Say something nice about Sophia
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>>382257479
The thing I liked the most about shinryu was that it was this classic as fuck final fantasy final boss moment where you fight a giant dragon/demon on a small platform in space.
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What bosses should Yoshi rehash next?
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Bosses

I actually didn't recognized deathgaze in the Dun Scaith
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>>382258041
What is this from?
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>>382245506
I see you forgot Regula, too
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>>382258165
RDM job quest
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No, I hated everything about the Ala mhigo side and getting dungeons with shitters where you have dumb gimmicks is the worst
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>>382256830
She is probably good at giving head.
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WE
GO
TOGETHER
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I still think this guy is a spy.
>shows up right before RR gets sacked and given relevance as a Scion voiced in a cutscene even though we've never met him before
>RR invaded even though the glamour rocks have supposedly been hiding them for 20 years
>generally pointless and inoffensive the rest of the game, just shows up as "support"
>even mentions he's half Garlean
Ilberd 2.0, he's gonna haul one or more of the Scions off to Garlemald and we're going to have to save them in 5.0
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>>382257786
Nidhogg was anything but disappointing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnOKdmAcSP0

>That bridge where your journey started
>That Dragon on Dragon violence
>That Dragonsong
>That phase transition to Estinien
>THY FINAL VERSE IS SUNG
>That music change
>That rage form Nidhogg
>AKH FUCKING MORN
>The skies of Ishgard burning during the battle
>That swell to a crescendo 3rd theme

It's probably my favorite moment in all of FF14.
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You cave goblin, when we were allagans you were nothing but tribal savages. You pretend to have been the first in Eorzea, but we were the first in the entire world and have been in Eorzea as long as you.
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>>382257479
>2.0 MSQ ended in the ruins of the Praetorium against the Ultima Weapon in a ring of fire
Burning circles occur pretty often throughout the game and are a trademark of FFXI boss fights. It's how you know shit is going down.
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>>382258169
I confused Regula with Ravus from FFXV.
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>>382250527
I can't believe all the babies who don't like a challenge for the sake of a challenge
>want to do EX primals again synced because they were fun
>nobody else wants to because you don't get anything out of it, even for WT it's just 'use a point and do roulette again'
>they'd rather waste their sub farming the same 2/3 dungeons and trials to get max ilevel so they can farm those same 2/3 dungeons and trials faster
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>>382251261
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>>382258306
RIP
AND
TEAR
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>>382258336
I might just be upset because of how many times we got cucked with Nidhogg. Every time they brought that stupid piece of shit back up. Then they brought his eyes back up. Then his eyes were used by the WoD. Then they were used by the Ascians. Then they were used by the Griffin.

I'm sick of everything Nidhogg. He was interesting in 2.0 and in most of 3.0. He wasn't interesting for literally end of 3.0 to end of 4.0.w It was the same dance over and over and over and over again.

If they didn't beat his eyes into me, I probably would agree with you.
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>>382250527
>Not doing this amazing boss fight as much as you can
Sorry, this is the game where after any remotely challenging fight you get a "wew i'm glad that's out of the way" in chat.
>tfw queuing for old EX primals for shits and giggles but never get into any party
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>>382257479
>not mentioning how 1.0 ended with the End of an Era cutscene
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>>382258559
I'd love to do old stuff at appropriate levels but there really is no incentive other than just playing it for the hell of it.
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See Midgardsomr had fuck all to say about Shinryu
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>>382257963
The Legatus from the Warring Triad storyline. He was Varis's best friend since childhood.
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>>382258790
You got rid of the dragon menace in HW. His job is done son. Your fault for chucking the eyes over a bridge, bitch.
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>>382258041
I liked how the game is far above the normal age rating the other FF have.
There is talk about love, romance, rape, genocide, discrimination, fascism, midget fucking, etc.

Also, the quest when the WoL plays matchmaking are the fucking best.
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>>382258330
BAWW HIS MOTHER AND SISTER WERE RAPED BAWW, HATE THE GARLEANS BAHH
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>>382258627
I'm glad Estinien actually has a fucking brain and destroyed the eyes when he found them after beating Shinryu
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>>382258330
>even though we've never met him before
He's been in the Waking Sands since 2.0.
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>>382258135
This fucker is cool as fuck
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>>382258984
God, yes. I cringed when I saw them again though as I forgot that's what created Shinryu, but I'm happy they're finally gone for good.
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Sure.
I got a sweet torque.
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>>382245164
Oh no, I have to relog once a day before prime time even starts, get back in in less than 10 minutes, and continue afking until I actually want to play.

Seriously this is SE's fault entirely for letting such an easy way of circumventing the afk kick system slide for four goddamn years.
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>>382258873
Oh right. Too bad he was shoved there, had no time to make an impact.

>>382258984
I was totally expecting Nidhogg to take direct control one more time. I'm glad they skipped that.
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>4 hours and counting trying to clear shinryu thru df
love to spend time playing my favorite game
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Am I the only one that thinks BLM is going to be cucked in omega?

RDM is just better if there is any movement involved at all. Same thing with SMN, brings equal dps to blm now, AND has utility. Looking like BLM is going to be the bottom tier caster for a while.
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>>382259096
>Shinryu in 11 was far more unique and stood out than Shinryu in 14
How the fuck
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>>382259135
Nidhogg was dead for good right after Final Steps of Faith. We saw his spirit leave the eyes. After that, they were just extremely potent aether batteries.
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>>382259165
I'll love her. Tell me there is pixiv lewds
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>>382249587
This has become remarkably common lately. When I started queuing as DPS after finished my WAR, tanks will abandon if it's a 70+ dungeon with new people. Considering it boots me back to a 20-30 minute queue, it's pretty damn frustrating.
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>>382259219
For as good as the battle music is in XIV, I liked his theme in XI better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS26jG7VLQ4
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>>382258135
I'd kill to see Eden, Doomtrain, and Absolute Virtue
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>>382259165
What is her endgame?
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>>382259219
>generic as fuck dragon
>unique
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>>382259210
Movement has never been a problem for BLM in raids. You just plan around it. You now have triplecast too so there's literally no excuse.
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>>382259210
People have thought this about literally every raid tier and fight with any movement at all and inevitably people figure out how to turret through.
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>>382257976
Have you done the nadaam yet
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>>382244318
my group took literally two attempts. on the first one we all died to the first tidal wave
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>>382246723
Who is Solus? All imperial rook same
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>>382258984
That just means Tupsimati is going to be the next stupid macguffin that the Ascians get their hands on. Notice how none of the Scions went back to get it after Papalymo blue balled himself.
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>>382258330
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>>382259219
Um that's just a big regular dragon
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>>382259210
blms getting fucked over by movement hasn't been a thing since hw where they all got gud or quit
plus they have even more tools to deal with it now
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>>382259305
XI and XIV music are so stylistically different they're really hard to compare for me.
Both Shinryu themes are definitely great though
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>>382253534
I hope we get the Phantom Train instead. The idea of a raid fighting through ghosts to get to the front of a train taking them to the other side before it gets there is awesome.
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>>382259520
The previous Emperor we never got to see.
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>>382259359
>>382259397
Yeah, except its still overall going to be a dps loss, no matter how well you execute its about how much of the loss you can minimize. Also there are two jobs who perform better than you when it comes to mechanics, and have the same (SMN), or close to the same DPS (RDM) while they both provide 10x more utility.

There is literally no reason to take a BLM.

>b-b-ut they said the same thing in HW

There wasn't a caster who can provide equivalent dps, handle mechanics, AND had crazy utility at the time.
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>>382259219
I was just about to comment how absolutely bland XI's Shinryu looks compared to XIV's
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>>382259435
Yes and I didn't much care for it.
>clusterfuck of an instance solo event where I ended up just running around like a chicken without a head because i had no dedicated healer to keep me alive
Not to mention I'm spending most of the time trying to read the NPC conversations in chat to see what the hell I'm supposed to do. Reminded me of the Warrior of Darkness instance event which I failed repeatedly at because I couldn't see the thing to click since it was in the giant white light of Alisaie's Kamekameha.
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>>382258627
>Every time they brought that stupid piece of shit back up.
You mean one time?
> Then they brought his eyes back up.
For the Griffin
>Then his eyes were used by the WoD
No they weren't
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>Cool-ass mysterious Corin's Tower looking structure.
>Clear zone, barely any mention of it.
>"Huh, must be a dungeon or something you go to later."
>Never mentioned again.

What is it? Do you scale it in a class quest or something?
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>>382259664
>raise
>crazy utility
Uh huh.
RDM is behind BLM by quite a bunch. A good BLM will ALWAYS outdamage RDM, and RDM still has to cast half their spells. RDM is actually the lowest of the casters and compensates for this not with movement but with Embolden.

inb4 cherrypicked RDM parses with high crit luck
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>>382259219
Everything is better in XI except the graphics.
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>>382259841
It might be the next Deep Dungeon
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>>382259841
Next deep dungeon, most probably
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>>382253534
Would be perfect to include as a new Garlean super weapon. Using the idea behind Alexander, they stuff a Primal into a super weaponized magitek train, thinking they could control it, only for it to break all their restraints and go wild across Garlemalds train tracks.
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>>382259884
>i'm just going to pretend embolden isn't amazing and doesn't make up for the small theoretical dps gap between the two

Nice try faggot. Also not a single person has shown a parse of a blm beating rdm on sus/lak.

I guarantee you the same thing will happen in omega.

Also you forgot SMN exists.
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>>382259219

FF11 cucks needs to fuck off
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>>382251261
When FF8 stops being shit.
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>>382259905
i've disliked the ui since 2002
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>>382259905
You can call me a pleb, but I prefer how fast paced XIV is to XI
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>>382259219
>unique
>bahamut but they cut off his legs
>unique
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>>382260146
>Also you forgot SMN exists.
I'd rather forget.
SMN is also ahead of RDM and has pretty cool magic buff which makes triple caster comps possible and buffs PLD too, potentially, but SMN has to work their ass to eke that damage out and death hurts them the most too so fuck SMN really
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>>382251261
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>This world is currently full.
>Players in queue: 6
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>>382257479

>Alexander summons himself during his fight. So you're fighting Alexander on Alexander while Alexander is shooting at you
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>>382259219
I loved XI but this is some serious rose-tinted glasses shit. The arena was cool though.
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>>382260298
Agreed, SMN is super punishing, but it has been parsing the same and higher than BLM so far. Plus it got some neat utility.

I can't stand playing it either tho.
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>>382260104
>A primitive, reclusive beast tribe in southern Ilsabard lives near the railways moving across all three continents. Each time they hear the thundering of the trains, they know the misfortune of Garlean presence is soon to follow. Because of this, they have taken to worshiping the train, convinced that it is a god, and that lack of worship has caused him to curse him. The god they call Glasya Labolas has now taken on a life of his own, becoming a primal who spreads his plagues and ill fortune across all three continents by means of the railways. The smallfolk have taken to calling him, the Doomtrain.
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>>382260456
I like 4.0 SMN. I don't think it's much more punishing than before either
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>>382259352
Get dozens of sugar daddies to feed money into the Scions coffers and to feed her big fat dicks
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>>382259734
>needing a healer in a solo instance
Nigger what? How bad are you at this game
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>>382260684
>big fat dicks
>in fantasy Japan
lol
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Requesting that pic of the monk and the drg being friends that was deleted 2 threads ago
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Where do I get cheap gathering stuff for my retainers? Need to grind that minion but both of the have too shitty gear for that
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>>382259352
This is her endgame.
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>>382260774
What? Japan has plenty of big fat dicks in its pornography.
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>>382259648
>Conquered Ala mhiggers
>Got fucked by Midgardsormr
And with this the cycle is complete
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>>382259352
Profiting off the inevitable Lolorito/Rowena trade war.
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>>382259352
To ruin as many cutscenes as she possibly can
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>>382260428
Not to mention Alexander set the while fight up, so it's Alexander sending warriors to fight Alexander ontop of Alexander while Alexander shoots at you so Alexander can stop Alexander
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>Just got the level 67 Trial
>Has college stuff to do

Help.
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>>382260972
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Do people actually think this shit is fun?
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>>382260774
To a Lalafell, yes.
Plus there's plenty of Roes in Doma and she has other daddies in other lands.
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>>382261004
Do your college stuff, you retard. Game's not going anywhere.
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>>382261064
It's pretty fun when everyone's playing properly instead of bandwagoning faggots afking for exp
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>>382261064
You just wander around for 12 minutes max pretending to do something then you get your exp, shhh.
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>They didn't get any of the leaders va's back for Stormblood
>They're either missing (Sultana) or just nod (everyone else)
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>>382260104
wow yes this would be awesome. so I imagine in a Garlemald exp it would be like gross machine horrors and voidsent.
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>>382261064
>that HUD
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>>382261207
that's basically default
not enough angled and resized gauges for you?
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>>382261207
They're a femroe, of course they're a shitter that didn't even modify the HUD.
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With all the Scions that are dead or leaving their going to need to have to get some new members in the story soon
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>>382261293
I am a lizard girl
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>>382261371
A TRANSEXUAL
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Do you agree?
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*smiles*
*nods at you*
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>>382261571
Her past lives were just majority men. There's a difference.
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>>382261681
*hands over nothing*
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>>382261158
>running around breaking ice cubes as 3 herds is pretty fun
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>waiting for Kugane castle to pop
>decide to try climbing the hostelry for the first time while I wait
>queue pops as I reach the top a few minutes later
I burned all my luck on getting a short wait time, my group was a cat boy dragoon, a cat girl in slut glam named Asuna, and a pld with a WoW characters name
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>>382261670
That's always been the case with FFXIV, it's not like FF sets a very high standard outside of production values.
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>>382261571
I don't get it.
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When the fuck his FATE will proc?
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>>382259058
>week long raid
>all you can do is enter and whittle down as much hp as you can before you die/timer runs out
>players are rewarded at the end of the week based on how many times they entered, and how much damage those raids did
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Post HUDSs!
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Should I play NIN or BRD? Both are 60, just can't decide which to play.
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>>382261670
I had a lot of fun so far. I don't know if it's that good though. It's a lot of the same old stuff. Quests are still bland as fuck. I also feel like the story was super short given everything that we needed to do. Fail at taking back ala mhigo, go across the ocean, reclaim doma, then head back, all by 70? Ala Migho should've been the final dungeon with Zenos as the final boss. Patches should have been us establishing ourselves and rising up in Doma. A later patch should be our triumphant return to Gyr Abania, or maybe helping the Alliance who has been pushed back on the defensive.
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>>382261905
Its autism.
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>>382261879
I got two lines from (last week's) Khole book and immediately after that pulled two 10 000 MGP minicactpot tickets.
I basically blew my luck for the rest of the year.
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>>382258946
>WoL plays matchmaking
idont remember this
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I'm level 70 and am decked out, what do I do now?
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Jinpu buff is worth it in aoe pulls, right? I've seen Tenka Goken hit up to 10k
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>>382262309
Level your other classes.
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>>382262057
NIN
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>>382262351
get both your buffs up nerd. then you can aoe to your hearts pleasure
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>>382262494
Should I do a full Jinpu/Shifu combo and then Tenka Goken or just Jinpu, break to do Shifu, break to Meikyo Shisui into the AOE hits and tenka goken?
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>>382262351
Kasha>Gekko>Hagakure>Guren
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>>382261670

Yes. Helps that the story doesn't need a wiki guide to discuss it ala Kingdom hearts/XIII nor is it 75% cutscene with an absolutely shit payoff like XV.
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So we all agree the best part of XIV is the Patch/Expansion Trailers right?

ARR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc5HY3KEqug

Realm Awoken:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_aliYN8hNk

Through the Maelstrom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zueQqbWhZeo

Defenders of Eorzea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYBu4dpZJBo

Dreams of Ice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbiFK4tcz9w

Before the Fall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj3hGDaDZqI

Heavensward:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2kVCzhAQXI

As Goes Light:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkRTO7co_Yc

Gears of Change:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZET2yYZLN8

Revenge of the Horde:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RMaN8U3ots

Soul Surrender:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go1NT6zCHPI

Far Edge of Fate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kA9aAdIDG0

Stormblood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBEvWWdKOBA
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>>382258330
I think I like Arenvald more than any of the other main Male NPC in Stormblood.
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>SAM skill names
it's like this shit's in another language, I can't memorize this
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>>382262709
I forgot the Kyuten, throw that in during the oGCD between Jinpu and Gekko
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>>382262857
faggot
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>>382262857
What the fuck is that
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>>382262876
???
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>>382262227
Weaver's quests come to minds
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>>382262961
A typical roe poster what else?
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>>382262841
Not the best, but they are good and have hype moments.
The actual best parts are the names of content patches.
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>>382258135
Seeing the most underrated GF in FFVIII would be rad.
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>>382251261
When fisherman horizon comeback.
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>>382262876
It took me months to learn that Huton is the Trick Attack enabler and Suiton the attack speed buff. Same with Raiton, the lightning bolt, Doton the fireball and Katon the ground rune.
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>>382260104
Only if they let me suplex it.
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>>382263197
it took me years to realize brother is crying, not his eyes releasing ray of energy
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>>382263197
literal garbage
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>>382261905
FemAuras are usually trannies, or that's the "joke" here in /v/ and /vg/
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Lalafell!
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>>382263538
It's not a joke. It's lgbt community that designated it that.
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>>382263340
>Huton is the Trick Attack enabler and Suiton the attack speed buff.
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Guys should I level my DRG past 60 or just make a SAM?

I keep hearing DRGs are dogshit right now
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>>382263638
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>>382263340
3 years of playing WAR and only now I've stared to almost remember the skill names. Except the new ones.

I know where they are on the hotbar that's enough.
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>>382263758
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>>382259173
quick update for all you blog fans
five hours now and i spent a good minute tanking shinryu because both tanks were dogshit
please like, favorite, subscribe, and come to my house and end my life
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>>382248683
>>382248963
Can't wait until XIVCensus data is updated for July and we see how many tanks are at level 61+ / 70. DRK and WAR figures are going to be of particular interest.
WAR was the least played tank in HW.
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>>382263856
subscribed
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Are nu-lv60 jobs capable of clearing A9S-A12S? With the removal of many DoTs I think its would barely be posible with a i260 party.
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>>382263340
stop
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>>382263638
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I though grinding sohm al hard would be fast way to grind my drk to 61 but I get like 1/7th of a bar per run
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>>382263849
>>382263983
very nice lala
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>mfw three hours into Lakhsimi EX and still haven't cleared it

you guys weren't kidding, the fucking players in this game are the most retarded I'ever seen, I can do the fight with my eyes closed at this point but there's always two or three people (or five in my case) who fuck up

hopefully I'll have more luck tomorrow with Susano, he seemed even more simple
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>>382263926
I was able to clear the A12S SSS dummy with ~15 seconds remaining as soon as SB launched, so it should still be possible, although that was 11 seconds lower than my previous time. It's mostly the removal of B4B that hurts almost as much as the DoTs.
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>>382264098
it's you anon, it's you and your party who sucks.
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>>382263687
Go SAM
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>>382264098
oh look it's another "it's never me it's always my party" episode

you're shite anon deal w/ it
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>>382263687
every class is dogshit when you listen to /v/
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>>382263983
i hate how they never restarted this quest line or mentioned it ever again
especially since they implied they'd continue it
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>>382262841
>Patch 2.1 added a new Primal, FOUR extreme trials, a new dungeon, 2 hard mode dungeons, labyrinth of the ancients, housing, PVP, the Duty roulette, the asthestician, story quests, Hildibrand AND Beast Tribe Quests

fucking gone are those days. We'll be lucky to get a quarter of that for 4.1
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Can people in this game design their character to looks good but natural organic without being contrarian or anime?
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>>382264570
almost all of those things were already finished, or almost finished before 2.0 launched
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New FFLogs up.

Start parsing your shit parses /v/
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>>382264809
fuck you
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>>382261681

*nods*
*steps forward*
*unsheathes weapon*
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>>382265548
*betrays you for Ala Mhigo*
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>>382264570
Shit like LotA was intended to be at launch and we still never got some of the shit we said we were going to get out of it (like armor with set bonuses).
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>>382263081
Yet another reason to thank the localization team for not giving us the lukewarm pap the Japanese writers come up with. Japanese titling conventions are awful.
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>>382265548
*punches palm*
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>>382264570

I know you keep parroting this but you realize that the first patch of an MMO is always the biggest right? No other MMO updates on a 2-3 month cycle, I guarantee you, no other MMO has content coming at this pace.
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>>382249587
It was that way for Steps of Faith, as well as Nid's Final Steps of Faith, and it shall be so with Shin.

Conclusion: FFXIV Players are pussies against dragons, despite having an entire expansion against them.

People also bitched and avoided Chrsallis for ages as well, since they want to just burn HMs down for easy seals & exp instead of having to apply thought and effort.
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>>382263007
GSM quest too kinda. That last cutscene of the 60 quest was cute
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>>382261207
hud posting time?
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>>382265436
yes
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>>382266126
>>382263007
the entire lv 50-60 CUL quest
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Astrologian is the job that looks the most ridiculous in cutscenes right
*Incapacitates Garlean with Star Globe*
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>>382261064
>focus on healers plz
>literally 1 healer in all 3 alliances
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>>382247107
Regula could technically still be alive if you completely ignored the Warring Triad, though.
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pussy shit compared to FFXI...unless you had brew of course.
>>
>Start playing about 2 months ago
>So many fucking ARR reborn story quests
>I want to kill myself when I realize I have to do a duty finder shit for Nidnigger too
I think i'm gonna unsub
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>>382262876
it's only a matter of time before there's a Madara Uchiha post using only SAM skill names.
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>>382266390
Every job looks ridiculous if it's a lala
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>>382267049
i've seen it but i haven't saved it
it was good tho
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>>382267049
>matter of time
It's already happened, weeks ago even, get with the times
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What the fuck is up with all these PF Ex-trial kill groups asking for iLevels higher than the default?
My main reason to do those is to be able to spend less timing grinding dungeons, for fucks sake.
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>>382258946
Umm no the SB war storyline is complete shit and the WoL is playing matchmaking.
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>>382267271
they're tired of reaching enrage with baddies
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>>382264423
they even have their own section in the sidequest log
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>>382267437
if you're solving enrage with better gear wouldn't you be the baddies desu
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>THE SEA PARTS FOR WE ALONE
>get knocked away
>gyoten back to him
best feeling
>>
>tfw someone has been trying to talk to my character for 3 fucking days in Rhalgr's Reach despite me ignoring them every time.

I am not talking to a c@ boi named nom noms. I know what dark path they want to take me down.
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>>382259219
But that's incorrect. Shin was a collection of people in XI merged with the God of Darkness, while XIV is a guy merged with giant dragon. XI's version played it very safe by having him use a traditional moveset and really just being designed around cheesing with brews that gave +9999 to all stats.

Meanwhile we have the XIV version that uses all the primal super moves before him, which doesn't even make sense, and the whole platform in space thing out of nowhere. XIV Shinryu is beauty incarnate since it presents a challenging boss fight that challenges one's knowledge of the entire game, while XI's version was on farm duty by the end of the day he released.
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>>382267028
>doesn't want to do the story
>doesn't want to do the multiplayer parts of the game either
The fuck you even playing this game for to begin with?
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>>382264423
It really should have been the recurring questline in 3.0, not Hildibrand or Scholasticate.
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>>382264087
your lala is pretty nice too
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM9XjMrvW5I

Best town music
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>>382268180
i'm sick of it already
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>>382268180
Comfy as fuck
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>>382267813
>the whole platform in space thing out of nowhere
He opens a path to the Interdimensional Rift in the middle of the fight. It's not out of nowhere and it's entirely appropriate for Shinryu, since you found him in that same spot in the Rift in FFV.
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>enter Chinese castle
>expect nip nong ching a linga chong ching yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo music
>get groovy electro mix
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>>382268023
scholasticate was fine, i don't really care for hildy but he's popular so i'm not suprised
it's just weird they dropped something they had to do a relatively low amount of work for, same with the postmoogle questline
maybe they'll have a crossover with hildy, since they're both kind of lighthearted
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>>382264809

I like to think so
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>>382268180
FFXIV nailed boss themes, but their map music and town music is absolutely brain tormentingly bad. What happened to the FFXI style simple thematic town and zone music?
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>>382268529
>We never had a reason to stay in comfy music town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4OQDvRBKcE

I'll never forgive Idlyshire for that
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>>382268529
XI had some lousy music, I dunno
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>>382268495
kys faggot
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>>382268529
>>382268204

It must be hard being wrong all the time
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>>382260220
wat?
Try comparing those two images retard.
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She's ok, npc average.
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>>382268970
>>382268495
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>>382268958
>call him out
>while proving his point
jej
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>>382259305
Bitch please, Shinryu didn't even have the best theme in that game and you're trying to compare it to this? Fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqmlXC4aodw
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>that feel when no friends, FC or static
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>>382269184
You can't expect taste from XI cancer.
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>Queue up for Castrum Meridianum first time
>Didn't know group was still playing when cutscene rolled
>They ask the group to let me watch the cutscenes
>Thank them all at the end, but still felt like a piece of shit for slowing them down

Is Praetorium like that as well? I may kill myself if that's true.
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>>382269694
Even worse
Literally 10 minutes scenes everywhere
Just skip it and watch in the inn
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>>382269694
Yup. Just watch the cutscenes if you feel invested enough in the story. Both of those dungeons can be cleared with 4 players.
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>>382269694
yep, and it's worse

your best way is to put up a PF and do a "story run", maybe you will a few 60-70 ppl who will carry through it and watch the cutscenes with you
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>>382258336
Completely agree
Specially the music part, I mean, listening different versions of that HW theme all along the expansion and that climatic version during the last fight was the best.
Only thing that comes close is fighting bahamut and the Tera flare transition if you played during 1.0
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I can't decide what my third retainer should be. Is botany useful on a retainer, or should I make another miner or battle?
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>>382269694
I recommend getting your FC to run through it with you so you have time to watch everything live. It's just not the same doing it from the quest log book at an inn.
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Can I get my fellow RDM to post their hotbars. I'm just 66 and so far I have no problems, but I know the OCD is gonna kick in and it's gonna be hell once I get holy and flare since I must find a spot to jam them in where they make sense
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>>382270380
>paying for retainers
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>>382258336
>>382270104
Man Nidhogg had some amazing themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsxIXhYCi5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5qwW2PTeOw
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>>382269621
>XI is cancer
>most profitable FF ever made

>FFXIV
>not a wow clone
wew
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>>382268529
> tfw still have foundation set as home
Best theme form any city hands down, kugane and nigger city themes suck and destroy your brain after 20 mins
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>>382269694
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>>382269184
>Generic "epic" orchestration and lyricless choir
>No transition whatsoever into or out of the generic Stormblood motif that has already been overused to death and is terribly out of place with the rest of the song
>Overall structure is a complete mess and has no buildup or payoff
It's one of the weakest battle themes in the entire game. Even the standard boss music is better.
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>>382268529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBLN4O6rZs4
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>>382270718
>all the important stuff is located in the Pillars
>the theme doesn't play there
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Bondship with Hien and his companions moments at House of Fierce > Aura episodes.
fight me

The drink before Domas invasion was the best.
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>>382270894
I preferred Gosetsu sitting next to the dead Xaela warrior
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>>382270894
nobody except shitty waifufaggots like the tribal shits in the steppes.
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>>382269694
Yeah, thankfully they learned to stop doing this from Heavensward on and any major story cutscenes happen after you exit the dungeon.
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>>382270824
Its so funny, you talk about how generic when Shinryu had a theme that was generic as possible while the other themes were far better and why the fuck shouldn't it use the theme of the expansion when its the fucking final boss? You're fighting a god among gods, why shouldn't they make the ost to reflect that?
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>>382270984
I like that one too, Gosetsu resolution relazation was done well.
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>>382270824

Are you fucking kidding me? lmao
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>>382271067
>why the fuck shouldn't it use the theme of the expansion when its the fucking final boss
I think it should, but the way they used it is awful and out of place like they just shoved it in because they had to and not because the song was written around it. The motif had been used too much up to that point, like half the fucking OST is that motif, I was tired of it by Shinryu and it didn't feel epic the way the Heavensward theme does for Thordan.
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>>382270846
It's meandering, like the composer didn't really know what he was gonna do until right before he wrote it, then, incredibly enough it becomes repetitive. It's just not good music.
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>>382270984
That scene actually made me tolerate Gosetsu. I thought he was really annoying and generic since his introduction
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>>382269694
Yes, and Preatorium will also take upwards of an hour if you watch the cutscenes
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>>382267003
wtf did DRKs even do in XI?
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>>382271264
Show some of that amazing XI town/map themes then faggot
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>>382270494
Probably going to trigger someone but it works for me :^). Bottom mana shift is a mouseover macro and the top one is a cooldown macro for party
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>>382271142
Just because this is the closest you've ever heard to real classical music doesn't mean it's good. It's thematically all over the place which makes it feel amateur. The themes from the original primals were at least cohesive.
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>>382271347
DPS and cheese out Absolute Virtue that one time
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>>382270846
Took me way too long to realize Sohm Al's theme is that but dungeonified.
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Miqote males are manlets.
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>>382271347
damage/debuff

what do they do in XIV?
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>lyse is gone
>next expansion they will do FFVI a tribute by shoehorning another female NPC from the Empire
>a human weapon
>it will be a Psuedo Terra.
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God these developers are so fucking lazy, they had TWICE the budget and introduced only ONE new city state? they even boxed off half of their maps behind invisible walls making them feel even SMALLER than the HW zones.

Complete waste of money.
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>>382271643
Give me Celes.
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>>382271543

>local contrarian says "meh"
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>>382271643
What SE bring back Trance mechanic like in ffix?
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>>382271637
they cut their lives into pieces, its their last resort
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Why play a WoW clone over WoW?
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>>382271142
I'll do it for him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TnSMXcp2Hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuMUqj2Vjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY3e4a5EwmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqL9Mef6NIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfdr70eCKTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRpjmwv7o4
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>>382271751
because other then pvp (aka minigames), everything wow does, XIV does better
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>>382271703
>local anon has no argument but still feels the need to post
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So do I just not hardcast dots anymore as smn?
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>>382271724
this is sorta true because WoL is getting closer to become a primal from all these believers he/she gained
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>>382271751
I don't wanna play stocky midgets.
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>>382271643
>female npc
>human weapon
You mean Fordola
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>>382271751
Weeb and cute dress up/glamour game.
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>>382272009
This.
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>>382271798
>calls him out
>posts generic indie stuff, but the boring kind of stuff
>proves his point
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>>382271724
It feels like the story is leading toward WoL gaining some sort of absurd primal-like power boost.
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>>382258135
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>>382271751
because i find WoW incredibly boring somehow
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>>382271725
Do they suffocate? Is there breathing?
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>>382258135
Barthandelus
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>>382271981
Yeah but this one will be an enjoyable character
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>>382272060
We already got the Warrior of Darkness and his gang, that's as close as we're getting.
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>>382271798
>Painted foothills is repetitive, uninspired and a clusterfuck and then he posts this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqL9Mef6NIM
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfdr70eCKTI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRpjmwv7o4

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug
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>>382271751
Because it's WoW but vastly improved in every aspect. It's not a good MMO but its miles beyond WoW.
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>>382268529
Fringe and Lochs music are 10/10, nigger
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>>382272078
they don't give a fuck, they cut their arm and now they're bleeding
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>>382271883

There's no arguing against someone who says x taste is bad but can't bring up a single song to back his opinion up. All you've said are vague qualifiers like:

>It's thematically all over the place which makes it feel amateur
>>Generic "epic" orchestration and lyricless choir
>>Overall structure is a complete mess and has no buildup or payoff

Let me phrase your criticism in a way you'll understand. This song is shit, the structure is shit, I heard this in my indie RPGs 50 million times, its shit is all over the shit. No one wants to argue against this. At least post a song.
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>tfw

Why are Stormblood characters so shit. Lyse was just told to be the leader after she did literally nothing by the old man who also did nothing.

Also the soundtrack is much worse most zones are pure cancer.
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>>382272138
You're not replying to who you think you're replying to newfriend.
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>>382272385
Yanxia, The Fringe and The Lochs shit all over HW's area themes.
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>>382272373
I wish these dialogue options would not have text, but emotes you could use
-"Nod approvingly with a smile"
-"Shake head, then pound fist in palm with menacing look"
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>>382272127
Could be cool to include them in the next 24 man raid. Casual filter like Ozma was for a while.
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>>382272462
All of those are terrible and the Steeps is just embarrassing.
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>>382263429
Doomtrain needs to be a hildibrand trial
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>>382272583

Not an argument
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why are /v/ threads so much more comfy and actually about the game then /vg/?
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>>382265906
*thumbs up*
*nodding
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>>382272583

Great argument. All good points, very in-depth. Wish more posters were like you.

kys
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>>382272765
All these threads do is shit on the game. Hardly comfy.
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>>382272368
You seem horrendously confused by who you're replying to and I don't know what you're asking for. Shinryu's XIV theme is bad for the reasons given, the XI theme which has already been posted is better, the only rebuttal has been "r u serious lmao" which is not an argument. Qualify in some sort of musical or layman's terms why you think the XIV theme is good instead of just implying that it is or that the XI theme is worse.
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>>382272793
>Implying sea of clouds isnt comfy as fuck

I mean I like SB songs better too but there's no need to be retarded.
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>>382272583
It must be terrible to live with such crippling deafness
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>>382272462
Yanxia is just flat terrain that had great filler quests, the fringe and the lochs are the most generic shit you can put in the game honestly

zones are terrible and even the underwater shit looks boring, it's strange because SE can design good enviroments but decide to make the blandest of zones
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>>382272786
>kys

Your post is almost as bad as stormbloods music

>>382272735
>it's good cause I say so counts as an argument though
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>EVERYTHING MUST BE COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO APPRECIATE ANYTHING ON ITS OWN MERITS
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I feel like Frontlines boils down to mashing your skill buttons instead of actually having a set rotation.
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>>382272980

kys
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So I know the "lol WAR" memes, but has anyone looked into level 70 warrioring.
I know that the 6 Fell Cleaves is the meme, but that requires that you have Berserk, Infuriate and Inner Release off cooldown and max beast gauge. Setting all that up means that some of those have to sit there unused waiting for that magical moment.
Is that truly better, over using your cooldowns more often, as they are available, even if it meant that you only get 4 Fell Cleaves in a row, or something like that.
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>>382272942
Nobody was talking about the level design nigger
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>>382273015
End your life while jerking off over Stormblood barren zones, shit music, and awful characters. I bet you loved Liberating an entire county with like 5 people.
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>>382273140

kys
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>>382273006
Frontlines boils down to staying with your zerg and pick up retards that run to your group of people while doing PVE in the crystals/capturing points

Feast is where the real PVP is, and is not even that good or skilled, FFXIV is not your game if you want to do pvp
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>>382272848

> Qualify in some sort of musical or layman's terms why you think the XIV theme is good instead of just implying that it is or that the XI theme is worse.

You first, retard.
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>>382270524
are retainers one time purchase, or is it another sub?
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>>382273140
kys
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>>382273140
noose yourself
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>>382273196
What's a good MMO PVP XIV can copy to make things better?
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I wouldn't make a stand on wether FFXI's music is better than FFXIV's as I don't know much of XIV's and music is pretty subjective.

I played FFXIV up until the first expansion, and while I loved the Primal fight music, it did feel a lot like what all "epic rpg" music sounds like nowadays.

I do know that to me FFXI's music feels more like Final Fantasy music. Each area's song adds to the character of the area, especially Kazham or the boat ride theme.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tARfKHBSAfA&list=PLD653DEA255C991A7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaKmkoy1r7o
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>>382273361

None. Play a real pvp game if you want actual pvp. MMO pvp has always been just serviceable.
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>>382273245
you pay an extra amount each month
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??
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>>382273231
>Generic "epic" orchestration and lyricless choir
>No transition whatsoever into or out of the generic Stormblood motif that has already been overused to death and is terribly out of place with the rest of the song
>Overall structure is a complete mess and has no buildup or payoff
I don't care that you don't like these reasons, you have still provided literally no counter argument.
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>>382273361
nothing, the problem is not the pvp design, problem is that the engine and combat was not made for pvp, everything has delay, there's a huge desync behind where people really is and where you are seeing them, so playing a melee is nightmarish, damage is calculated very, very soon, but you see the animation late, so you can't properly react to huge spikes of damages or watch if you are going to be bursted down

and with the prune I feel like there's very little room for skilled play, most classes only press 4 buttons and have 0 cds, binds, stuns, roots, or abilities to make counter-play...

MMO's have never been a good enviroment for pvp anyway
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>>382273568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ9_hX-v68M
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>be a latefag
>didnt get to finish alexander or synced HW extremes because stormblood came out

is it to late to queue for these, i just want to try them
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>>382274029
Because of Wonderous Tales Extremes will be done a lot. Though mostly as unsynched level 70 party.

I played since the start of HW and today was the first time I even tried Nidhogg-Ex.
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Is DRK still fun this expansion?
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>>382273643

It seems you're somewhat new to criticizing music but you usually provide an example of what you would consider to be exemplary final boss music before barfing out vague criticisms. I'll spend the same effort as you did typing those out.

>Generic "epic" orchestration and lyricless choir

lyrics are subjective, generic is subjective

>No transition whatsoever into or out of the generic Stormblood motif that has already been overused to death and is terribly out of place with the rest of the song

Argument already makes no sense. "overused to death", what do you think a motif is retard-kun. And no it doesn't feel out of place, it ties in the scale of the final battle with the core goal of the entire expansion and it only comes out in the last phase in the last parts of the song.

>Overall structure is a complete mess and has no buildup or payoff

No. Please give me a song that you think is better so I can laugh at you.
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>>382274376
Yes.

Ignore the 'gutted' memers.
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>>382273424

FFXIV's music is pretty damn good.
Ironically, the most boring and generic "Epic" Primal theme is Ifrit, which was done by Nobuo himself, and was supposed to be the theme for EVERY primal.
Then along comes Soken, who injects personality into every primal with different genres of music that all fit the respective primal.
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>>382274376
No.

Ignore the "Ignore the 'gutted' memers" memers.
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>>382274423

And calling it "generic" while also being able to recognize the key themes of Stormblood in it is hilarious mindless criticism. I can tell if a track is from Stormblood or Heavensward in 5 seconds, nothing about either is "generic" in the least. If you want generic, go listen to WoW tracks in recent expansions.
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>>382274376
Ignore the "Ignore the "Ignore the 'gutted' memers" memers" memers
The only thing that matters is this: who pays your sub?
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>>382274815
Well I asked my mom if DRK was still fun and she said she didn't know and then kind of sighed sadly.
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>>382273643
>lyricless choir
It has lyrics.
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>>382275140
*looks down sadly*
*looks up and punches palm*
*nods, then smiles*
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>>382275353
*tilts head quizzically*
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Damn PLD is fun. It's funny how a single AOE skill can change the whole class for better
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>>382275446
Just try it my friend, it might not be top tier and miss out on the 1% damage and mitigation bonus PLD has, but so far I've heard good things about it even though its been simplified somewhat
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>>382276168
I'm glad she's dead.
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>>382273680
The only thing I miss about old frontlines was you could actually somewhat escape a risky situation since you had more options. Like BLM had 2 different sleeps, a blizzard that gave heavy, and freeze that could bind at any time. Now you have to wait for that shit and it's more situational and boring.
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>>382276250
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>>382276168
I miss them.
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>>382276319
>HW had such an amazing cast
How the FUCK did they drop the ball so fucking hard with Lyse and the entirety of the cast really

in the end the only real connection I had was with Zenos and Gotetsu
I actually just remembered there was that samurai guy that we helped save his land but I forgot his name lol
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>>382276959
The only bad one is Lyse. Gosetsu and Hien's bromance is great and Alisaie's smugness helped offset Lyse being shit.
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>>382276959
Nice nostalgia goggles.
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>>382276250
>Had a multifaceted personality.
>Great inter-group interactions
>Properly developed as the story progressed
>Pretty elf waifu.

Nah, she was great. Even her death was a great sendoff.
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>>382276959
problem is that Lyse/Yda only had one personality, being a retard, so now she doesn't have that, so she have 0 personality

doesn't help that Koji translation english ye olde english makes every character a copy of paper of each other with no distinctive traits in how they express themselves, add that to the point that FFXIV characters are one-dimensional as fuck, and that you character has no personality except for some great moments in the story, and you have the most blandest cast of characters ever

Hien was great tho, he seemed like a bro
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>>382277386
She's still a retard.
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>>382277447
Yeah but before she was at least amusing with the bubbly-but-dumb personality, now she's just stupid.
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>>382259648
Do we know what Primal fucked them over that hard?
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>>382277447
yes, but not in the "comical way" that she was before, now she's retarded because muh ala mhigo, not understanding basic politics and crying "it's not fair!"
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>>382253534
Yoshi pretty much said "5.0" when asked about it
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>>382277386
>>382277447
^this

its the fact that they didnt remove the "retard" and she just ends up autistically screeching in every fucking cutscene and claiming the honor and being a base bitch

they tried to make a comical relief character be the star without making her grow up or have any character growth other then "lol my dead sisters dress"
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>>382256830
She looks better white.
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>>382277632
bahamut, i'm pretty sure
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>>382257094
I thought an admin made a ruling that it's okay for there to be a single thread on /v/ at one given time?
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I'm pretty fucking sure Titan EX is easier than Shiva EX, if only for how blatantly VISIBLE his shit are.

And for some reason people still get knocked around and mess up. The only tricky part of it was bombs+adds
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>>382278009
Titan EX is harder sync'd
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>>382278009

the only tricky part of Titan EX, once you got past the ZOMG TRIPLE LANDSLIDES, was baiting landslide so that you could dodge both it and the asterisk pattern bombs
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>>382278158
I never had to deal with this

but I was tank, so what do I know
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>>382276959
>in the end the only real connection I had was with Zenos and Gotetsu
Really? Shinobi au ra bitch and I had some fun times.

But I guess it helped I was being NIN myself
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>>382278158
I remember really hating dealing with Titan's adds.
Though I dislike most add phases.
>Here's three enemies on three corners of the earth. Get and hold aggro on all of them while rest of your team tries to prevent you from doing that.
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>Do Frontlines
>Try to do my rotation as smoothly as possible
>Get almost no kills because when people focus somebody down, they die fast as fuck

>Mash my buttons while trying to do the rotation but still just mashing
>Get a fuckton of kills

Jesus christ.
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>>382278462
You're a tank, not a dps, deal with it.

If you hate it so much go be main tank and have the other guy off tank.
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What ever happened to mods? I thought they said they were implementing them
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>>382278482
What class?

Because this is actually how nin is designed with a ton of ogcd skills.
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>>382278482
>build up combo and meter on one guy that everyone's focusing on
>run off and pick someone with low hp and explode on them
>rinse and repeat

ez 20/0/20 or more
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SURE IS DARK AND ANIME IN HERE /v/
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>>382278698
They keep deleting the threads, so I'd say they are working, maybe little too well.
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>>382278843
>Dark Souls
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>>382278852
to be fair there's 3 ff14 threads up at the moment
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Just got a gold on the Ixion fate.
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>>382277386
>people are angry and pissed that Lys is useless and weak sauce.
I just think writer only made her a character at the best as she can realistically with her limited power.
Yes Lyse is boring and annoying but is justified in my opinion. The whole journey was to show that she is growing from a nobody to a somebody, not from a weak character to a stronger character. At essence it's her resolution is what embody the will of the Resistance which was once hopeless is now ignited and rebirth.
Yes Lyse make horrible decision, lyse doesnt know this and doesnt know that, she says stupid things emotionally, not logically. That's the whole point, she even admit that she is not capable of being a leader because of her incompetency. So by the end of the chapter, she came down to the path she will have to learn to be become one even though she is stupid. Nothing from her has change except her persona as Lyse is stronger, while yda is gone but not lost in the past.
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>>382279038
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>>382278843
why tia?
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>>382279215
>>382279038
>>382278843
What website is this?
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>>382279215
Highlighted the Asunas too

>>382279260
Lore last name for sun catboys
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>>382279260
gonna go with Lufia 2 here
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>>382277961

And I'm pretty sure you are 100% clueless about this game's lore.
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>>382278843
The active population number is such bullshit. You exclude a large amount of players by going by that minion.
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>>382279342
Weeaboos only

>>382279318
It's a report I whipped up in Power BI using FFXIVCensus' database.
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>>382279260
Male suncats only have two lore appropriate surnames and tia is the only one that makes sense for an adventurer
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>>382279432
>chan biggest last name
we got any first names "four"?
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>>382279141
we already know what they are trying to do with Lyse, the problem is that it doesn't show, she hasn't changed from level 60 to 70, except in the clothes, she's still retarded

Alphinaud for example grows very, very humble in HW, and realizes that still has much to learn from the fuck-up of the crystal braves, however, it seems to me that Lyse is going to be sidelined in future patches, seeing the whole "I'm not a scion anymore, lol"
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>>382279459
Oh yeah I forgot to post my question for pic related. Why do some shadows look like a blurry mess?
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>>382279260
only lore appropriate surname for male suncats
if you use nunh youre a fucking dumbass
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>>382279590
I am not 100%, but those may be the cloud shadows
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>>382279573

she'll get one more patch where she's made the equivalent of the GC leader, and then she'll show up once every other patch and nod and have unvoiced lines
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>>382279260

It literally means cuck.

Learn your lore.
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>>382279671
No it was teh shadow of a guy above me on a lakshimi dog
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Cleric stance is shit now, right?
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>>382278009
Titan EX is one of the easiest primals out there, the problem is you're most likely out of the fight completely if you fuck up once so no matter how easy the mechanics actually are, retards will still eat shit and go ZOMG HARD AS FUCK.
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>>382279720
I see.

In that case, but I'm not sure, it may be the shadow of a cloud above you
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>>382279590
every shadow that isn't yours gets a lower quality
ps3 limitations
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>>382258617
At least someone had the right answer.
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>>382279739
>5% damage buff for 15 seconds on a healer
I haven't done the math but it is shit
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>>382279718
>>382279601
>look up nunh
>breeds the whole tribe of cats
>1 male to 50 females

jesus christ

so cats really are canonically sluts
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>>382279869
>it lasts 15 seconds now
top
fucking
lel
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So can we expect a trailer for Omega by Sunday, since that's when the Alexander one hit back in Heavensward?
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>>382279405
I know, but it's a necessary evil.
It's either that or gobble up all the bots.
It also helps with filtering trash level 1 accounts.
The label was wrong though, I just fixed it. It's people who got at least one mount OR one minion.

>>382279508
Exactly four of them.
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>>382279759
Shiva, Leviathan and Bismark are all much easier. Those are the easiest extreme primals in the game
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>>382279958
>twenty that large
dude lmao
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>>382279883
>get a gf as a cat
>tribe leader fucks and impregnates gf

why do cats allow this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0yQKI7Yw4

Watch this if you need something to watch, it's actually really interesting.
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>>382276319

They will always be the BEST party the WoL ever had. We expent the WHOLE MSQ with them, in SB we had a lot of members coming and leaving.
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>>382279573
That's why I said she is learning and is willing to change at the end of the chapter. She did changed during the journey, only her resolution is strengthened thou. When Conrad died she didnt know her role in the resistance beside fighting as a sidekick and moral support, well now she does and she have to pick up from there. The point is that she volunteered to be become a leader then eventually she will have to change. More importantly of all SB has just started.
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>>382279432
Can you check out "dark" and "luigi" 's?
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>>382279976
>Leviathan
Nah, Titan's easier than that. Leviathan can get thrown off whack by pushing him too fast. Titan's on a completely set rotation and always changes phases at the exact same time. No one has any excuse for getting hit by his shit when it's easy to know exactly when it's coming.
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>>382279869
Well shit, I don't know what to put there now for role actions?
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>>382279958
>Four skin
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>>382264809
I like to think I do decently enough
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>>382279921
>>382280150
>when you play RDM so hard that you dualcast your post
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>>382279976
Shiva threw off so many first timers because "HERE ARE SOME INDICATORS WITH THE SAME COLOR AS THE BACKGROUND, OH AND HAVE SHIT FLOATING IN MIDAIR TOO p.s. never rely on the tank to turn the instagibs away :^)"
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>>382280161
I'm afraid there's none, my man.
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>>382280234
lucid dreaming, swiftcast, eye for an eye, largesse, and protect. You don't need esuna every encounter but you can make a macro that casts protect and then sets a different action there
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>>382280502
How many Sig Marios are there?
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>>382280673
none
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Jesus Christ this dog never fucking drops, and people who cleared once join these farm parties and fuck everything up.
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>>382279976

Leviathan has a pretty brutal ring out mechanic and the Briny Mirror mechanic was rough on undergeared parties

Bismark's dps check was rough at its intended gear level, worse than Susano's
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>>382280806
The more pressing thing about Leviathan is the fact that overgearing it can actually make it rougher or an instant wipe if you push him down too fast. Which, of course, the average retard won't care and keep pushing him anyway.
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>>382280502
look up first name "Bort"
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>>382280502
Can we get a check on "naruto"'s and "sasuke"'s, perhaps some "uchiha"'s too? how does this work anyway?
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>>382279573

Lyse will be around heavily for the rest of this expansion, at least until the last patch before setting up the next expansion.

And "Lol not a scion anymore" means jack shit in terms of story exposure.
There are half a dozen Scions constantly on display in the Rising Stones like the hoary brothers and their groupies who almost never get to do anything.
"Yda" and papalymo spent most of HW sidelined, and Y'shtola stopped mattering after Matoya, and went to go be a part of the Alex quests instead.

And there's no gurantee that she won't just rejoin the Scions at the end of the expansion.
Unlike Aymeric who held a position of leadership in Ishgard for years, Lyse has no experience at it and was only made a leader of the resistance, which will likely not exist at the end of the expansion.
She's just the type to say "I did it Yda/Dad. I fulfilled your mission. Now I need to take up Papalymo's mantle and clench my fists with the Scions again."
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>when you crit that ONE SKILL when there's maximum damage buffs up

what's her name?
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>>382280993
see pic

>>382281136
Coming up.
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>>382281250

got a 12k damage Refulgent Arrow vs Shinryu just now
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>>382281250
>43k Midare setsugekka.
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>>382281250
uhh just the default foul I guess where you can see the damage in boss %
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>>382281250
Got an 18k crit with Midare Setsugekka at 60 and my gear was pretty garbo. Can't wait for max level.
>>382281498
ahegao.jpg
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>>382280806
>Bismark's dps check was rough at its intended gear level, worse than Susano's
to be honest it's how I feel most content should be tuned

it wasn't actually that hard if you knew what you were doing and could play your class. Half the time I spent tutoring my party on how to actually play their class. It was pathetic.
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>>382281136
This gave me cancer.
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>>382280113
why do you think so many become adventurers
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>>382280806
Bismark was always a joke. I did the content when it was new and was it a breeze.
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>>382281670
>mfw I grouped with two different Sasuke Uchiha/Samonosuke Uchihas in different PotD and duty roulette dungeons yesterday
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>>382279883
They're a bunch of inbred of anything.
Mooncats are the true sluts since they breed with any male coming their way.
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>>382280806
The problem with Bismark was that job quests didn't give good gear like they do in SB. It's very easy to get i290 right away. You had to grind tomes to get starting endgame gear in Heavensward and most were too lazy to do that. So pugs you ran with had shitty gear.
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>>382281670
>Dante Uchiha
>Kirito Uchiha
>David uchiha
Kek, thanks friend
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