"If it's not fun, why bother?" -Reggie Fils-Aime

>>382240349
>that feel when you beat the first level and are full of expectations of exciting things to come

>>382240349

Really want this pack to drop to $20 brand new shipped as I want to play it but it doesn't seem to be worth any more than that

>>382240349
SF0 was fun
Just only 1.5 hrs of fun

>>382240349
>reach andross fight
>realize i wasted 2 hours of my life for this shit
NOT EVEN A FINAL ESCAPE SEQUENCE
IT JUST ENDS

>>382241194
pirate it. Nintendo doesn't support the Wii U anymore, and you shouldn't either

>>382241316
you have to beat it on the hard route

to realize there is no second boss fight

>>382241424

I want to, and I agree with you, but I'm afraid of fucking it up somehow/losing my eShop games/whatever

>>382241194
It's the Links' Crossbow Training of Star Fox

>>382241605
Wii U was the first console I hacked and I did mine just fine. If an idiot like me can do it, I'm pretty sure its impossible to fuck up

>People are STILL forcing the 'Zero was bad' meme.

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>>382242043
No one else reply to him

>>382242043

REMINDER
>Competitive multiplayer was a surprise omission from Star Fox Zero. Not surprisingly, the new controls were what caused Platinum and Nintendo to shy away from multiplayer. "I think the main thing we were really focused on, since this did start on that two-screen experiment, is on this being a one-player game. That being said, we did include a co-op mode that you can play locally with the TV and gamepad, where maybe you give the person who feels more comfortable piloting the ship the pro controller, then maybe the less skilled player... maybe the younger player can have the gamepad and enjoy the soothing elements of the game.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/star-fox-zero-in-hindsight-the-developers-on-the-controls-the-decision-not-to-include-multiplayer-and-the-future-of-star-fox

>>382241680
Do you still have to fucking buy Brain Age

>>382242043

But it was anon, I've been longing for a good SF64 follow up since assault didn't quite deliver, I played Zero up to the first pigma fight and quit there because the controls and camera are complete shit. Feels kinda bad because it looked like a fun game.

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>>382242970
Don't reply to him

>>382242564
>Multiplayer was an essential component to Star Fox

Anyway, the release of Star Fox 2 has me interested if we'll possibly see more elements from that in the inevitable Zero sequel.

>>382242970
>Controls and camera were complete shit

Git gud.

In hindsight, Zero's dual screen controls looks even more pointless when you look at this.

>Nintendo Switch is dedicated to deliver a single-screen experience, on whatever screen you might choose.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/10/nintendo_switch_will_be_a_single-screen_experience

>>382243472
Nah. All Nintendo really has to do to replicate the gamepad experience is release a screen that you can attach your joy cons to.

Zero's control scheme isn't going anywhere.

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>>382240349
>that piss-poor excuse Miyamoto gave when people were shitting on it
>"i-its good if you never played a videogame before!"
Just retire already you old hack

>>382243472
Probably was Miyamotos last dual screen pet project they wanted to get out of the door before they closed that chapter.

>mfw i spent more time on project guard than zero

>>382243706
Zero was made so that they could try and justify the Gamepdad control scheme
IIRC he had no involvement in the development of the Switch.
The Switch is made for portability purposes in mind.
You cannot do Zero's dual screen control scheme for a portable.

>>382243705
No, people were pretending the controls were bullshit before the game was even out.

Miyamoto's point was that people convinced themselves that something was wrong with the control scheme when they really just had to learn how to use it. It takes maybe... ten minutes?

Seriously, you guys suck.
>>382243706
No, you'll definitely see dual screen gaming again. I mean, look at the 3DS. That's still going strong. Samus Returns is using the screen really well.

>when Aonuma was releasing BOTW he explained why they didn't support a dual screen feature:
>we didn't want to distract the player by having him look at two screens, so he can fully concentrate on the action
>they knew the Wii u was a dumb, dumb idea and still went with it on a whim
Thank God the Switch having all its games developed for the handheld mode first won't have such retarded gimmicks.
Hell even the next Metroid Prime could have a normal controls scheme for handheld play.

>>382243975
map and inventory management on the gamepad would have been perfect

>>382243949
>Samus Returns is using the screen really well
Yeah, like Castlevania did it on DS 12 years ago, and the only thing dual screens should ever be used for: maps and inventory.
The Wii U was a goddamn dumb idea, I had one and I enjoyed the few good games that did it well in Nintendo Land but frankly it ruined most games it touched.

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>>382243949
>t-the game is not bad you guys just suck at it!

>>382243975
No, that was just an excuse he gave. The real reason was that the Switch version existed and he didn't want to go into specifics on that.

Wind Waker HD already used the gamepad to great effect. I vastly prefer that version to the original because of the gamepad.

No Brain Boss Andross
No Forever Train

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>>382243394
Splitting the player's attention across two screens in an action game is bad game design.
If you disagree, feel free to argue with Aonuma. I'm sure you know more about game design than he does, you underage shitposter

>>382242970
>the controls and camera are complete shit.
>I don't know how to hold a controller: the post

Well, don't feel bad Anon, it's the same problem for 99% of people who shat on the game.

>>382244362
>everyone else is wrong except for me
Must be nice living in your little autistic bubble

>>382244285
>I-It's bad game design!

Then why does it work so well in Zero?

>>382240349
Is this the worst game Nintendo made in recent years?
I can't think of a bigger disappointment but someone can prove me wrong.

>>382244464
Federation Force

>>382244464
amiibo Festival?
They seriously thought it was what fans would want and only made it so that they could sell Animal Crossing amiibo because it was cute

>>382244532
I don't think anyone had any hopes for Federation Force in the first place.

>>382244464
As far as disappointment goes, only Other M beats Star Fox Zero.

>>382244464
Last year was full of dissapointment for Nintendo fans, only SuMo was alright and even then the fanbase for it is very divisive

>>382244402
>everyone said it so that mean it's true !

I return the compliment to you my friend.

>>382244420
It doesn't work well, just like Aonuma said.
Are you really going to disagree with BOTW's director? That's an uphill battle you'll be fighting.

Nintendo needs to stop trying to remake Star Fox 64. 64fags won't like it even if it's good.

>>382244649
Like I told Cody, if you want to argue that Zero's scheme is good then you're disagreeing with Aonuma, who made BOTW.
Do you know more about game design than fucking Aonuma? No, you don't. Fuck off and kill yourself already.

>>382244285
Trying to reason with Cody is like arguing with a wall.
To him, nobody can criticize Nintendo except for him and anyone who agrees with him.
He damaged controlled the Wii U by saying that it wasn't meant to be a success so it can't be a failure

>>382244648
>SuMo
go back

>>382244841
Sun and Moon
are you happy now autismo?

Being a Animal Crossing fan is nothing but constant disappointment since New Leaf. Still waiting for the next real AC game. Probably the faggots will make it for the Switch now, which I have no intention of owning.

>>382244532
Isn't Federation Force actually a fun game that just shouldn't have the metroid name?

>>382244558
Okay you won, this was an insult to anyone expecting a real animal crossing.

>>382244991
Your loss, you white faggot.

>>382244656
Aonuma didn't work on Zero.
>>382244464
Fire Emblem Fates was way worse.
>>382244648
>Nintendo fans

Lol, we were getting great games all year.

>>382245039
It's slow and mediocre
Anything it has done, other shooters have done better

>>382244917
yes just stop posting your reddit memes

>>382245132
Doesn't matter if he worked on it. He can spot flawed game design.

>>382245132
>2016
>great games all year.
Unless your standards were six feet under and didnt like Pokemon, last year was fucking barren for Nintendo fanbs

>>382240349
Then I gotta ask why did they actually bother?

>>382240349
Thank you OP, now my sides hurt.

>>382245265
He damaged controlled Devil's Third and shilled Color Splash and Federation Force Anon

>>382245132
>Fire Emblem Fates was way worse
only the third route was bad dumb """cody"""

>>382245371
All those games were amazing.

You know how I know that? Because I actually played them.

Check out this guy.>>382245174
>Slow

No one seriously would call Zero 'slow' if they actually played it.

Zero is literally the Other M of Star Fox. There's a good game buried beneath all of the shitty fucking decisions.

>>382244761
>Do you know anything about game design
Yes, Things that are stupid in video games are inherently stupid and flawed by design, thus should be removed.
you are the fucker who thinks that a person who plays video games can't form an opinion on them. which is wrong. So fuck you and kill yourself.

>>382244464
There was a Mario Tennis for the WiiU, you know?

>>382245541
>Things that are stupid in video games are inherently stupid and flawed by design, thus should be removed.
Glad we agree Zero's dual screen shit is garbage and should have never been added. Thanks.

>>382245514
I played them too and they suck, what now faggot?

>People still think "cody" is real

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>>382245514
>All those games were amazing.
No i know the nintendo fanbase is worse than sony's since none of those faggots make daily threads about how The Order and such were hidden gems like Cody does

>>382240349
Well the game was fun but it does have it's glaring flaws.

>>382245934
It wasn't very fun, its just 64 but worse in every way

>>382246015
Well I played the game and I had fun with it. So in my book it was fun. Has it's problems, but fun none the less.

>>382244761
If your only argument is using the words of a person, which is bound to be influenced by the current situation (here the death of the WiiU/ launchof the Switch) especially when you're as important as Aonuma, than you don't need to reply anymore.

Also, being a genius/pioneer doesn't mean everything you do and say is absolutely true.
It's like saying "Scorsese can't make a bad movie, he mastered the art of cinema !"

>>382245882
They do that with TLOU and other flavor of the month games. All these Ape Escape and Crash threads are great examples.

>>382246110
>which is bound to be influenced by the current situation (here the death of the WiiU/ launchof the Switch)
Delusional.

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>>382245096
>your loss for not partaking in another Gamecube / Wii / WiiU

I'm weeping.

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>>382246115
>They do that with TLOU and other flavor of the month games.
Except those games are actually successful and have fans who liked those games, unlike Devil Third which was a blunder and the the only fan in the world it has is you Cody

>>382245882
The Nintendo fanbase can't stand Cody since he deliberately tries to piss them off through his constant shilling.
Even r/Nintendo thought he was a parody at first

>>382245882
>Judging an entire fanbase by one guy

You don't see people judging Sony's fanbase because of Pokebarneyfag do you

>>382246301
If Devil's Third was such a success why did it have its servers shut down?

>>382246387
>people judging Sony's fanbase because of Pokebarneyfag do you
That's exactly what they do though
See also: Ruggarell

>>382246387
>You don't see people judging Sony's fanbase because of Pokebarneyfag do you
Except they do

>>382246398
"It was meant to be a failure"
-Cody

>>382246478
Oh, is Ruggarell notorious too? I had no idea.

I've butted heads with him before.

>>382246749
>Oh, is Ruggarell notorious too? I had no idea.
Underage AND a newfag

>>382243268
>Anyway, the release of Star Fox 2 has me interested
Are you one of those cucks who also still waits for Mother 3 to be translated?

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>>382246478
>>382246527
Those are both small potatoes to Sex Genie

>>382246901
Dylan Cuthbert confirmed that Nintendo's version of 2 is way more advanced than the version that leaked online.

>>382246301
I love how he just straight up ignores posts like these that disprove his points

>>382246301
>Ape Escape
>Crash
>Successful

Is that why Sony stopped releasing new titles in those franchises? lol.

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>>382244285
>Miyamoto can't stop killing Star Fox at every turn
Really makes you think, huh?

>>382246110
>It's like saying "Scorsese can't make a bad movie,
Well he hasn't, so...

>>382247509
Crash got 6 titles in its main series before being whored out into mobile and handheld stuff. How is that not successful? How often does a series last that long?

>>382247509
Yes both were very succesful, but one series got oversaturated and the other sold the rights to other company
>Is that why Sony stopped releasing new titles in those franchises? lol.
Yes because they would rather try new things than sticking to the same franchises forever, also you dont see me making fun of Nintendo for killing the Advance Wars series despite being successful too do you?

>>382247739
I suppose you didn't saw Silence (and anyway that's not the subject of the thread).

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Still better than Command

haha...

>>382244464
2016 had the unholy trinity of Nintendo bombs:

>Metroid Prime: Federation Force
An ugly squad shooter spinoff that came out during the worst time possible
>Paper Mario: Color Splash
A direct sequel to one of the most controversial Nintendo games of the past decade
>Starfox Zero
Another half-assed Star Fox experimental game based around, once again, an iffy gimmick

It's like they intentionally set out to make games that literally no one wanted.

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>>382247819
There was a recent interview with some nintendo dev saying that he'd consider making another Advance Wars if he figured out how to shoehorn waifus into it, "joking" how it'd be difficult to have two tanks romance each other and then give birth to a smaller tank. Ruining Fire Emblem wasn't enough for them.

>>382248202
I'd rather have AW dead than let it suffer the same fate as FE

>>382247819
>Killing Advance Wars

It's not dead. It'll make a comeback someday.

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>>382248118
I actually enjoyed Command's gameplay, but they fucked it up with the Deviantart-tier art and story. Now that's all anyone remembers it for.

>>382244991
>since New Leaf
Try everything past Wild World. Started playing GC again last week and holy shit did the blandness of the newer games hit me like a brick.

>>382240349
It was fun, you fucking idiot.

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>>382248371
>It's not dead. It'll make a comeback someday.
>mfw its so dead the closest thing it will get is a indie clone made by Chucklefish
lmao

>>382248696
Maybe if you'd never played a Star Fox game before

>>382248259
>I'd rather have AW dead than getting good games

???
If you dislike Awakening, all the versions of Fates and Echoes, you're just being petty.

>>382249047
Oh sure i would love AW games which they play themselves