>perfect game doesn't exis--

>>382208420
>playing necropolis
OH WOW YOU MUST BE SO SKILLED

>>382209562
I don't play with taste of blood in my mouth, I play it for fun.

>>382208420
>eagle eye
>scholar

>>382209562
What skill is needed? Same build order and troops and luck with resources, items and heroes.
I loved this game, but it is from a different era.

>>382209562
>he doesn't play exclusively as skelebros in every game that gives him the opportunity

Best balance mod? Vanilla is so fucking unbalanced that multiplayer sucks cock.

I wish they made games with atmosphere like they used to.
Heroes, Diablo, Starcraft, and a lot of other older games had art and music that made you feel goosebumps.
Nowadays it feels like watching a cartoon, even if the gameplay is fun.

>>382208420
For once, OP wasn't a complete faggot. Only like, 3/5ths of a faggot.

>>382209562
>not playing necropolis

OH WOW YOU MUST BE KILLED

>>382212206
>>382211547
>>382211486
>>382209903
Not him but Necro is usually banned among my friends, and in competitive. The fucking town is just broken.

>>382212168
>3/5ths of a faggot
That's an...interesting measurement.

>>382212112
The music and the visual design is so much better than everything else out there.
It's like the assets were originally meant for a fresco in a cathedral and not a video game.

>>382212168
You're telling me he's a niggerfaggot?

Name?

Age of Wonders was always better than Heroes 3.

Why is it that some towns have great heroes while others only get shit ones?
Was this a conscious design decision?

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>>382208420
>perfect game
>inferno
>eagle eye, scholar and diplomacy
>all those useless spells
>ranged units
>defensive turrets with damage that ignores resistances and defences

>>382212009

Horn of the Abyss has some decent balance changes. Don't actually remember how they nerfed Necro and Conflux but they gave some needed Inferno buffs, like allowing magogs to shoot only one tile instead of aoe and reducing resource costs.

HoMM2 is better.

>Better music
>Better art direction
>Better art in general
>Not as broken

>>382213030
desu i see nothing wrong here
this is extremely circumstanrial
if he wasn't against enemies that take up two tiles, if he didn't have those obstacles on the map or if the Behemoths were in one stack instead of several smaller, he would've been BTFO instantly
guy just uses them well

>>382212794
Heroes of Might and Magic III

>>382212871
My nigger. Age of Wonders 1 is one of my favourite games of all time.

>>382213264
None of that is true though

>>382213046
>like allowing magogs to shoot only one tile instead of aoe

>magog shoots fireballs
>efreets are specifically stated to be immune to fire
>still take damage from magogs
I can't believe they never fixed this.
Like holy fuck, magogs should be healing efreets, maybe Inferno wouldn't suck so bad then.

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>>382212494
>>382212764

>>382213038
>>defensive turrets with damage that ignores resistances and defences

How does turret damage scale anyways?
Is it dependent on the number of units you have? Is it their hross HP? Does it decrease as the number of defenders decrease? It feels like it does.

>>382213441
Any tips on how to not get gangbanged by elves on the first campaign? How do I build a character properly?

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>perfect games dont exi-

>>382213347
>Nothing wrong wtih tier 4 units beating an equal number of tier 7 units
I don't think there is a single other NON TIER 7 unit that would do it. Not even tier 6 ones.

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>we wil never get the Heavenly Forge
>the Might and Magic setting will never have sci-fi elements again

>>382213746
Death knights would probably beat spectral dragons.

>>382213624
Cult of Storms? I always make a lizardman leader with lightning attack and regeneration as initial skills, then teach him extra strike, charge, parry and wall climbing with later levels; after that a bit of attack and defense and then spell casting.
Take your big beetle and make way to the first small town upstairs, bring all your lvl 1 units there and hold it. Take your leader, assassins and wolf riders to the south side of the underground cave and go upstairs. Let your big beetle follow up and follow the road to the east to the lvl 4 town and capture it. After that take your big beetle and wolf riders, join the lvl 1 units and capture all the other small towns. When you have enough cash go for karaghs quickly and win mission.

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Ubisoft has recognized you, yes YOU, as the greatest HOMM player in all of the world. Because of this you're put in charge of HOMM 8, given a proper budget and total freedom. How do you bring the franchise to the next level?

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>>382208420
Oh but they do

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>>382213449
All of it is true.

I'd rather stare at this for hours instead of HoMM3's muted colors and shitty pre-rendered sprites.

>>382213746
maybe Nagas with haste, I don't know
Vampire Lords are bullshit even without the no retaliation ablility but they're not that bullshit, the guy just plays them very well in a very specific scenario

>>382213947
I use 80% of the budget on hookers and meth, the rest will suffice for the game.

Oh wait that already happened with HOMM 7.

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>>382213393
Cheers

>>382213947
I copy HoMM3 with some balance changes

>>382214107
i'm pretty sure that accountants and lawyers prevent lead developers from just stealing all the money and getting away with it

>>382214080
They're probably the most broken unit in the entire game, I don't know how does it more bullshit then that

>>382214068
HoMM III has the nicest colors. THE NICEST.

>>382213991
Which game is this again?

>>382214080
Vampire Lords do shit damage and have low hp though. You need a good stack of them to be able to revive units.

>>382214262
Warlords Battlecry II

>>382214181
nigga they were probably in the other corner floating so high up they forget their own names

Disciples is better than HoMM

>>382214327
Thank you. Played that game when I was little and hadn't been able to remember the title all this time.

>>382214068
3 is still better
sorry for disagreeing with you anon

>>382213947
give every town like, 15 base units (in addition to upgrades and so on), but you can only carry half that amount
also keep something similar to the 5 hero skill system and unit skill system
also hire traditional oil painters to do all the graphics, fuck the warcraft style

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>>382214258
>HoMM III has the nicest colors. THE NICEST.
BORING COLORS. SO DULL AND DRAB. PUTTING ME TO SLEEP.

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>That moment when you were a kid and you realized going for units first was better
My mind was fucking obliterated

>>382214693
oh yeah ou gotta love that pastel shit with all the cyans and purples in II

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>>382214693
>he needs his grass to blast his retinas with neon colors to get an erection
you don't know shit about anything

>>382212308
I seriously hope you guys ban conflux too.

>>382214693
Those are actually great colours anon, stop being a baby

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>>382214892
>>382214898
>>382215046
Look at how clean and unified everything is.

>>382214825
I can't help myself, my go-to strategy is still
>get dwellings lvl 1-5 + Citadel on week 1
>get City Hall on the beginning of Week 2
>start buying low level units
Unless it's a small map, on the first two weeks I only train enough units to beat resource guards.

>>382215087
Looks pretty nice! Nowhere near as good as 3 though

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>>382215087
Now compare that to this ugly monstrosity.

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*blocks ur path*

>>382215087
That wizard looks fat.
His horse looks fat.
That hobbit looks fat.
That boar looks fat.
Those skeletons look big boned.

>>382215142
It's just jpeg artefacts, nigga.

>>382215178
It really isn't. The pre-rendered sprites are just as ugly in-game.

>>382215208
ur mom is ugly in game

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Wow, what a charming little mobile game!

>>382215371
This made me realize

>There is still no HoMM3 for mobile
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>382215437
tried it in tablet mode on my laptop, while it certainly works with the HD mod, it's a torture

>>382215437
given how botched the "HD" release of HoMM 3 was, we'd reach "Final Fantasy iOS remake" levels of disgusting

>>382213947
Go back to 2D and hexagonal tiles. Keep all the good changes from Heroes V (caravans, having sidegrades for units, nerfing necromancy, speed and initiative as separate stats). Make it so the town screens aren't covered with shitty looking light effects and buildings actually look clickable. Most importantly, ditch the shitty new setting and get back to the weird mix of sci-fi and fantasy elements.

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this is Vidomina
She's my waifu, please respect that

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>remembering how I played homm3 for the first time and I unironically chose basic eagle eye because I didnt know what I was doing

>>382215770
She looks like butch Raven from Injustice.

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>>382215770
Hi Vidomina, this is my waif Medusa

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>>382215770
wish there was more art of homm heroes

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>>382215835
>tfw your character gets eagle eye from a scholar but then he copies some basic spell that you were missing all along

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>>382216285
>dem hips

hnnng

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>When you expand your magic tower (or whatever the fuck it was called) and it has town portal
>You also have level 3 earth magic

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>not playing your games in hard-mode

Fuckin necrofags.

>>382216430
dat Vidomina is pretty good in that regard too

>>382216476
what ? conflux is as broken as necropolis, if not more

>>382212308
>Ban necro
>BUT NOT CONFLUX
Go back to plebbit.

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>>382216692
>>382216638
why is conflux banned? am new to the homm series. i only know necropolis is banned because of vampires and knights and other stuff

>>382215087
Woah, didn´t knew that Castlevania was turn based.

Do people usually ban Castle as well?

Because from what I remember they are literally the only town with 0 bad units.

>>382213471
>magogs should be healing efreets
Now that's an idea

>>382212308
in competitive everyone uses the new updated patch though

>>382216882
Almost all units have some form of magic protection, two accessible shooters, aoe elementals, two units with no retaliation (same two units have sanic-speed), 4 tier-7s per week.

>>382213947
I'd probably make it along the lines of HoMM V.
Graphics would be HoMM II-esque, but with high resolution support, particle effects, transparency, optimized netcode.
It would have a powerful level editor with script support. I would also enhance naval battles and exploration (like, different ship types, many skills - and so on) and would add more naval stuff for sea maps.

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>>382215770
>my waifu
BONED.COM

>/v/ is so pleb and underage this thread won't even reach 100 posts

>>382219180
get with the times grandpa ,this game isn't even available in the apple store lmao

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>>382219180
It will!

>>382219180
There is a Heroes general on /vg/.

>>382213947
>How do you bring the franchise to the next level?

Under Ubishit? Impossible.
They will feminize and monetize every crucial aspect of the game while not fixing any bugs.
Then they will shit out 1-2 expansion that will barely work, and announce that Heroes VIII is 100% fulfilled and finished.

Also they will blame me and piratefags for poor sales. ( fun fact: I know shitloads of Heroes fan piratefags who never even bothered to download Heroes VII ).

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>>382219382
>/vg/

>>382219435
Sorry, I meant /vr/.

>>382219435
Danke, herr Doktor.

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>>382209562
5500 Power Leeches

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>>382219180
W R O N G

>>382219382
There is? Fuck me

How dead is it?

>>382219394
total freedom anon
i mean we all know ubiflaccid will never do shit with the franchise except shovelware, this is hypothetical

Child support is due again

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>>382219586
>Todd Howard in HoMM 3

>>382217737
Damn those spooky sexy skeletons

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>>382219705
the ride never ends

>>382219705
The map was pretty good, actually.

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>>382219705
It gets funnier

I remember playing this shit back in my college days staying late up until in the wee morning hours. almost failed a class because of this game

>>382213492
AYO HOL UP

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what expansion had the best campaigns and why is it Shadow of Death

>>382208420
Preferred heroes 5(TOTE version) pure gameplay/battlewise tbqh. I still remember owning a friend with necro's and with Kasper of all heroes(TENT RUSH) which were considered the worst but specilised in rushes and had incredible creeping.

The issue I had were the maps, its been ages now but I remember there were only a few custom ones that were as large as heroes 3 ones which you can play for days.

>>382219612
/vr/ is very slow, the threads can last days

>>382208420
CANDLEJACK IS A STUPIDE MEME STOP FORCING IT YOU LITERAL RETA

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>>382219842
>The Ubisoft guy in an Asscreed hoodie

how hard do you think it is to make a HoMM-like game?

>>382220195
Not hard. It's really hard to make it good though.

*casts Berserk on your Archangels*

Psssh… Nothin Personnel… Kid…

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>>382220420

Ubisoft actually managed pull off their SJW shenangns in HoMM 8 with the dyke wizard girl who has sexual intercourse with a female genie and other bullshit kek

>>382220528
DELETE THIS

>>382220820
That's what fans of the series really wanted after all.

Just let it die in peace.

>>382220195
You mean like, by yourself? Would be a pain to make all the content, but I don't think there's anything that's super challenging.

>>382208420
I really love this game, but it's far from being perfect... Broken balance / mechanics, shit AI, and games with more than 2 players are impossible (two string guys wreck each other and the "winner" is too weak to ever recover, so he just get beaten after few turns by the third player who didn't participate in the battle).

Still a great game though.

>>382219435
dumn frogposer

>>382219364
haha fucking what

>>382220528
i dont get it

>>382213492
Is he only sucking 3/5ths of that dickcane?

>>382216978
no, because castle is too expensive and they dont have many good heroes or spells

>>382212112
Mid-sized developers pretty much vanished so we can't have this. Only fledgling indie developers cutting corners everywhere they can or AAA big devs creating colorful games with blinking lights for the masses to consume.

>>382219180
>implying HoMM isnt still pretty popular in the third world where a third of /v/ posters hail

>>382219842
Can we all agree that Heroes 1 is awful?

>>382221864
Shackles of war and Orb of Vulnerability
Shackles make it so no one can retreat or flee in a fight, someone has to lose there hero
Orb removes all magical immunities on all monsters So you can cast magic on dragons or blind troglodytes.

>>382213264
I also think the comfyness is better in HoMM2, atleast from a nostalgia perspective. But overall, 3 was better, due to the gameplay

>>382224190
It's an orb that doesn't allow any spells to be cast though. Orb of Vulnerability is marble-like.

>>382220195
Making video games is tedious. Heroes games have shitloads of assets making it even more tedious.

>>382215087
Sprites looks stiff and dull, like amateur made them

>>382223160
Since when are spells faction specific?

Or am I retarded?

I guess they don't have level 5 magic building.

But still, their units might be somewhat expensive, but they're fucking broken. They have no single unit that can be considered bad. Tier 2, 4, 6 and 7 were especially very strong.

>>382220195
Well the logics behind the game are pretty simple, the most hard stuff would be the artwork and balancing.

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this is prefect

>>382226923
>heroes 3 thread
>suddenly some faggot with his flavor of the month game

>>382213947
Literally just make Homm3 with a modern interface and graphics. I don't get how developers fail so hard at making good games when all they have to do is re-create the classics.

>>382216882
>thinking necropolis is banned for vamps and knights
>not the 7000 skeletons
this guy

>>382228328
but HOMM3 have perfectly decent interfaces and graphics
> I don't get how developers fail so hard at making good games when all they have to do is re-create the classics.
you say this but then there are thousands of /v/irgins shitting on remakes

>>382219382
>>382219435
I think you mean /vr/

>>382228517
Thats the thing. It's a perfectly good game that should've been easy for them to do a HD remaster of but they STILL somehow fucked it up.

>>382208420
What game is this?

>>382228872
Battletoads.

>>382228872
Champions of Strength and Mysticism

is fortress the meme town?

>>382228872
boku no hero academia of might and magic

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>>382213947
First of all, DON'T FUCKING RELEASE A LITERALLY UNFINISHED GAME THAT IS NOT EVEN WORTH PIRATING. I mean even fucking HoMM6 was somewhat finished for what it was but HoMM7 is THE definition of a cashgrab.

Basically these>>382215657>>382217669
Have the good stuff brought over from HoMM5: Alternative unit upgrades, Caravans, and the Skillwheel but with a little rework(Definitely not like how they handled it in HoMM7 fuck that shit)

>>382219842
kek

>>382228872
World of Might and Magic:Ashan. The newest Ubisoft MMO

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>>382219951
>why is it Shadow of Death
Because of pic related.

>>382229854
Don't give them ideas.

>>382219951
Dragon Slayer is the best campaign

>>382212519
>It's like the assets were originally meant for a fresco in a cathedral and not a video game.

Well-put

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>>382213264

>>382214068
>that art
>this music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmzlgtJPx6Q
it's bliss and heaven

Age of Wonders > HOMM

>>382230369
>a bunch of units not even in the game

I know the point you're trying to make, but there's a shitload of fan units in there too that are way worse than the originals.

Can any HoMM3 fags point out to what it is about Necropolis that makes everyone think it's the best faction? Kinda curious.

>>382231154
But everyone thinks that Conflux is the best faction.

>>382231154
It clearly isn't, I don't even think it's in the upper half of the better towns. People just look at stacks of 3000 skeletons from necromancy and think it's OP, even though Ncropolis units in general have lower health and attack than basically any other town.

>>382231154
They are just butthurt that their units are being raised from the dead as skeletons.

>tfw you'll never hang out in Fortress town and fuck lizardmen in the hydra pond
Why even live

>>382231154
Necromancy skellyraising can snowball on big maps, especially if you get a shitton of nercomancy amplifiers and a necro specialty hero.

Go diplomacy and transform all the 9999 peasants to free skellies.

Undead have immunity to some battle-deciding spells (fuck you, berserk) at almost no disadvantages. No morale too, so every party is a chess match.

Lvl 5 mages guild.

Vampire lords are completely fair and balanced.

A level 3 spell that can permanently resurrect undead. Yikes.

Death Knights have spellbooks at the start. Minor but good.

Liches/Death Knights are among the best units in their tiers. Pretty sure upgraded Death Knight is THE best mechanically (heroes bible counted their comparative power to champions, and they were better).

Shit lvl7, but yeah, everything else is stellar.

>>382231912
but level 2 is garbage
and level 3 is meh

>>382232026
Sure, but you won't be using zombies in early-game anyway (it's gonna be like 200 skellies + vamp lords and 1 skelly in each free slot), and they can tank shit when you decide to fight the big battle. Wraiths are the ultimate meh. I won MP games without even building their building.

>upgrade mage tower
>Summon boat

>upgrade mage tower
>scuttle boat
>remove obstacle

>>382232225
>upgrade to level 5
>magic mirror

>>382232026
Good, there's no incentive to waste money on them.

How to fix inferno
>T4 demons replaced with succubi
>ranged, no melee penalty, no retaliation
>pit fiends revive into succubi instead of demons
>cloak of the demon lord that allows for better succubi res returns

>>382232161
I don't see how a good level 4 is the deciding factor in multiplayer.

the reason that they're such a meme unit comes from the fact that streamers are already steamrolling ahead anyway.

a lot of factions have strong unit 4s, is what I'm saying

>>382232897
>streamers
Listen here, kid. I was steamrolling with Vamp Lords when I was 6, and I'm steamrolling with them now. The fact that you get free skellies in each clean fight (which, with vamp lords, is every fight against non-shooters/living creatures) just adds insult to injury.

And I agree that there are good lvl4, it's jut that vamp lords can dish damage and remain alive against almost anything in a prolonged fight. Besides, remind me of other nations' lvl4s, please. Griffins? Good, but not as good as no retaliation dudes who resurrect themselves. Silver Pegasi? Same, and they're fragile as fuck. Queen Medusas? MEH.

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>>382233246
>lvl4s, please. Griffins?
but griffins are lvl 3

>>382233454
Fug. Yeah, crusaders are real good.

>>382233246

1v1 sempi

>>382233536
HOST IT FGT

Sorry, I'm at work right now.

>tfw was never good at homm3
>used to play like 10 years ago
>1 man army every game all game

>>382233753
You need 1-2 primary heroes in most games anyway. Just use your support dudes to haul troops and flag shit.

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>>382232225
>>382232420
>>382232442
gives you two summon elementals

>>382230369
FUCKING
WHEN

>>382215437
but there literally is, both on iOS and Android

>>382208420
>games older than 2007
go to bed grandpa

>>382234671
More like games older than you.

>>382232793
I think inferno is more about the spells, they have a building exclusive to improving spell power.

>>382236197
>Infernal semen extractor
>lowers your mana cap until the end of the week but gives +1 succubus growth for each 10 spellpoints you sacrifice

>>382234671
You have to be at least 18 to post here underage.

>>382236352
>succubus
>tripled chance of neutral or good aligned creatures to join your party.

>>382236197
Tower feels more like the spellcaster faction. They have mages, library and wall of knowledge. Just +1SP isnt that significant. They can use a lot more help.
Imps suck cock
magogs have issues
cerbi are good
demons suck
pit fiends are okay, but they are T5, slow as hell and not that sturdy
Efreets are really good
devils are subpar

So you have 2 good Tiers, and even they arent that good when you compare them to other factions. hell hounds have the elves and griffins to compete top spot with. Efreets have black knights and cyclops to consider. So their strong points arent that great while they do not have no weakpoints to make up for it. Its just a sad mess.
They need a lot of help. Some things that could be done
>imp mana suck is useful
>magogs no longer hurt efreets or devils
>demons either just get a significant statbuff or get replaced by a shooter (succubus). Currently they dont really fill a role
>pit fiends either lose thier demon revive spell and get something else in return or remain untouched
>devils give the enemy a chance to have misfortune

>>382236914
Why not have the succubus have 100% chance of hostile creatures joining you. And also any creatures you want to pick from the opponent hero's or castle's forces.

That might just barely put infershit on par with any other faction.

>>382208420
Disciples 2 is much better game

Thank you /v/ I am reinstalling Homm3 now, fuckers.

>>382232897

anon, there is a reason necro and conflux are banned from every multiplayer game

anybody with half a brain can snowball out of control in any map bigger than medium with necro, you literally have no losses from neutral stacks, whats worse you actually gain units from neutral stacks, this allows to get ahead much more than any other faction, coupled with how broken vampires are once you get them rolling they are basically unstoppable

all of this without even buying the rest of the units that you can either accumulate on your castle or send on a secondary main hero to cap shit

they are beyond broken to the point that they are even stronger than conflux which is ridiculous

Conflux on the other hand has:

-The best T1
-T2 & T3 are shooters with the stats of T3 & T4 creatures
-T6 are mini hydras with fucking magic immunity and turbo speed
-T7 has almost the lowest stats of any other t7 but it has double the fucking growth and its the fastest unit in the game, ensuring you have first turn
-The heroes are great with broken specialties, all get spellbooks and i think plane walkers had 1+ to some primary skills compared to other heroes
-Fucking magic university
-The best grial building in the game
-T5 magic guild
-and all the units have several magic immunities

>>382238243
>Not installing HoMM 3 first thing on every computer

>>382237369
Yeah but its about they spells tower has no access to like fireball, T1 Bloodlust, BLIND and inferno, curse can make shooters worthless too.

Is that HD remake of HoMM3 on steam worth getting?

>>382237369

you are forgetting to consider demon farming, which makes inferno close to be viable, they are still shit but it does put them much closer to the other factions

>>382239284
God, no. Get a complete edition from GOG and install HD mod.

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>>382220820
Can't fathom how much of a homo you have to be to have complaints about that particular thing, though.

>>382238572
>not having an usb drive with homm3 on it in your wallet at all times

>>382238530
>-T5 magic guild
Doesn't everyone apart from orcs have that?

>>382240224
nah, Fortress and Stronghold can only build level 3 and Castle can build level 4, others can build level 5

>>382240224
Fortress: lvl 3
Stronghold: lvl 3
Castle: lvl 4

H2 graphics,sound and atmosphere + H3 engine and game play=perfection

http://heroes2.forumactif.com/

>>382240595
Too bad it will never fucking come out.

>>382239359
I do consider it, that is why I think any buffs to demons would mean the pit fiends should get something else. I rather remove that kind of cheese and replace it with a fully functioning T4 and T5 than this setup.

This is a blessed thread.

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>>382241119