Would you prefer Season 4 or KI4?
This was an Xbox One launch title. The game lasted and was supported for the entire Xbox One's life, so kudos to it for going as long as it has. That said, it's pretty clear the game is tapped out and Eagle will be the last character. If they do another Killer Instinct, it'll be in a revamped system. Granted, the system they have right now is incredibly unique and offers a good middle ground between Street Fighter and anime, with some of the most unique characters you've seen in fighters. The fact that the game is now coming to Steam is the game's last real exposure to the market.
Killer Instinct had a good run, and it's good to see it perform as well as it did. I would have no regrets if they retired the game and didn't do season 4.
>>382120560
While I agree there would be the risk of them somehow fucking up KI with a KI4 I really think they should keep up the momentum and make a second. The game was continually growing a passionate community. Evo was growing year over year and despite the Xbone selling like shit in Japan there were still some really dedicated Japanese fans. I just hope they continue it somehow since it really does fill a niche in the market like you said that other fighters just can't. I really hope the Steam release is a sign that they're just trying to introduce more and more people to KI before announcing KI4.
>>382120560
>some of the most unique characters you've seen in fighters
I can't stress that one bit enough. To Killer Instinct's credit, every character feels legitimately different from each other, a strong identity for every fighter (even pseudo-clones like Shadow Jago, Kilgore and Shin Hisako). As well, the characters have individual mechanics you really don't see in other fighters (ARIA swapping bodies, Aganos managing rocks and barriers, Kan-Ra as a whole, etc).
>>382121118
The problem you saw Iron Galaxy running into is that they've got no more legacy characters. Everyone from the past KI games has returned, and even if you ignore the guest characters, the game's OCs - Sadira, (Shin) Hisako, Kan-Ra, Aganos, ARIA, Mira, Omen - were decent. Where do you take the roster from here?
>>382121625
There's no creature from the black lagoon or frankenstein character.
>>382121625
That is true and why I feel they could ruin a potential KI4. I feel though if they were to start the new game with all the of characters introduced as of now they would be able to start making truly new and innovative characters. Although IG doesn't seem to be as good in the character design as DH even if they are probably better from a mechanical perspective.
>>382121841
>E3 2018
>Capcom Logo appears
>Slashmarks appear through it
>KI vs Darkstalkers
>>382121971
The question there is what direction it would go in. Would Capcom trust Microsoft to bring Darkstalkers into KI's system and give them KI-esque mechanics, or vice-versa?
I want Mollusca
Thing is they now have a solid roster to play with for a future title. Hopefully with the game coming to Steam it'll get more users, but if they really want this series to succeed, I think they need to be willing to make it multiplat.
>>382122321
I would think it would need to follow KIs system as DS systems wouldn't really be compatible with KI characters movesets. Although that's counting on Capcom to A) make a smart decision B) give a shit about anything that isn't Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, or Street Fighter
>>382121869
Double Helix's only original character before handing off the game to Iron Galaxy was Sadira, and her gimmick is "lel she's an air fighter."
>>382123274
They had actually drawn up the designs of Hisako, Kan Ra, and Aganos before they got bought out.
>>382119512
Season 4, starting from scratch with a KI4 would feel underwhelming after all they've done with the current one.
>>382121841
Consider the characters we DO have.
>Tibetan monk
>Werewolf
>Two Nez Perce Native Americans
>Spider-themed assassin
>Special ops girl with batons
>Skeleton
>Two combat cyborgs
>Evil Tibetan monk
>Black pro boxer
>Amazon
>Mummy
>Velociraptor
>Shadow demon
>Babylonian golem
>Onryou - Japanese killer ghost (eventually turned kami)
>Fire man
>Gynoid
>Spunky kung-fu girl with nunchaku
>Nordic barbarian
>Vampire
>Demon lord
>Two-headed ogre
And that's if you ignore Rash, Arbiter and General Raam.
>>382124847
Forgot the ice-themed alien.
spend two years fixing the entire engine.
gameplay-wise it's on point, but it's ugly as hell and the engine wasn't made for character editing or modeling. everything clips and fits wrong.
they need a full graphic rework of the engine. then just bring the entire cast with stages for everyone in KI4
>>382125312
To be fair, it was an Xbone launch title. I think someone said there will be another graphical update in time for the Steam release.
>>382126253
It wasn't even necessarily built for the Xbone. A good deal of it was coded for the 360 with the intention of being an XBLA title.
>>382126429
Wew. That explains a lot.
Please do not fuck the ghost.
>>382127908
I'll do what I want
>>382126550
Google "killer instinct 360". Ptponline has a video on it.
>>382128198
>>382126550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH8LWNcvQ6Q
Guy has a lot of cool videos as well.
I would prefer thicc Orchid but America is too prudish now.
>>382119512
KI4. Another season wouldn't gain nearly as much traction.
Another thing they need to do is stop radically changing how characters play. It makes the playerbase suffer because their main doesn't play like they used to anymore, and it discourages people from playing.
>>382121971
Speaking of which, Darkstalkers Resurrection is free for PS+ members in July. So If you're a PS+ member and haven't played it yet, remember to give it a try.
Seeing the guys that made fucking Silent Hill Homecoming and Battleship: The Movie Game make a legitimately great fighting game and a really good reboot of Strider makes me really sad they got bought out by Amazon. I really kinda wanted them to become a successful studio. A legitimate underdog story of a studio known for pushing out trash and getting a once in a lifetime shot and knocking it out of the park is a rare thing.
>>382128523
At least she's wearing her KI1 leotard in her classic costume, and her booty is still a prominent feature. Janet Jackson Orchid will have to stay in KI2.
>>382128672
The only drastic changes I can recall are the changes to Spinal's skulls/instinct and Maya's dagger ender.
I'm new and haven't looked much into the meta. Why did Thunder get a textwall-level nerf this patch? Was that much REALLY necessary?
And do we have any new info on the Steam port yet, or at least know if we can import our W10/Bone purchases/data to it?
>>382128891
>her booty is still a prominent feature
Nowhere prominent enough.
>>382119512
KI4
It's had its run and it was great that it got as much support as it did, but it's time for another. Also, I hope MS can hire Mick Gordon back for the soundtrack. Celldweller and Atlus Plug did okay but their tracks were largely forgettable.
>>382128002
Please do not fuck the ghost.
>>382128672
Eh, not too many characters have been entirely reworked. Only ones I can thing of is Spinal and frankly going against any Spinals that played like Bass or any other top tier Spinal players was pure suffering since they basically made it so if you didn't have a DP your chances of a comeback were fucked. Mayas rework was weird but I don't play Maya so I have no idea how that actually affected her gameplan.
>>382129198
Sadly I think Mick Gordon is shackled to Bethesda for a while. I actually really like Celldwellers music despite it being Hot Topic as fuck (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtbct2jzLBU is really fucking catchy for some reason). As for Atlus plug I don't necessarily see what he brings to the KI table. I really wish they would put him in charge of the music for the next Halo game since he's the only 343 era composer for Halo who seemed to get what Marty was going for since he's the only one of them who seems to understand Marty didn't just use strings all the time and instead went with guitars and bass in the forefront pretty often. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LwzIKYXtr0)
>>382129259
DON'T TELL ME NOT TO FUCK THE GHOST
>>382129818
Yeah, it does look that way. I've fallen in love with Mick, I mean, his soundtrack, and the fact that it's System Shock 2, sold me on Prey. I'd love for him to return, but you're probably right that he's not coming back. There were some good tracks in season 3, Eyedol in particular was my favorite.
>>382129818
>Mayas rework was weird but I don't play Maya so I have no idea how that actually affected her gameplan.
As I understand it, in short, they took away quite possibly the strongest damage ender in the game and replaced it with a funky setup tool.
>>382130076
dont do it bro you have so much to live for
>>382130220
Eagle's theme is pretty sicknasty as well, but that's probably because I like the overall Native American aesthetic they present (Thunder is my favorite character in the game).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz3n5q-Osk8
>>382130932
And I just now noticed how most season 3 themes somehow fit the main KI theme hook in there.
>>382130932
I'm glad Eagle got a good theme after the Kilgore/Shin abortions. In terms of themes i feel like Atlas/Celdweller have higher highs and lower lows than Mike Gordon.
>>382121625
Killer Instinct x Darkstalkers
>tfw KI is dying
>you never owned an Xbone but you always wanted to play it
>can't just play it on Steam because you only have a shitty toaster
It's like fate for me to only get into fighting games once everyone moves onto the next one.
>>382121971
>>382131514
I like how Darkstalkers is the crossover suggested and not Mortal Kombat. This is something I can get behind, as KI seems to have moved away from the excessive gore that KI relies on. They're slowing bringing back ultimates, but there's no FINISH HIM prompt anymore.
>>382131920
you don't need more than a 7950 to run the game at max settings/60fps
>>382131920
The game runs on my fucking tablet dude. How shitty is your PC that it can't run it?
>>382132241
A KI x MK honestly wouldn't be interesting. I'd be perfectly fine with Fulgore, Hisako, or another KI character showing up in MK11 but frankly a Western fighter x Western fighter will always be less interesting than Western Fighter x Eastern Fighter. Plus Darkstalkers and KI are both pretty goofy games compared to MK.
>>382132889
>This is all one taunt
What's funky about the balance in KI is that everyone's offense is super strong, and yet you can still play basic Street Fighter footsies if you wanted (especially since openers do extra damage, meaning single hits outside of combos can be chunky). There's also the interplay that goes into the combo system and the idea that just because you scored a hit and started a combo doesn't mean you're guaranteed all your damage.
>>382132353
But I don't have that.
>>382132889
Pretty shitty, I guess.
>>382132241
To be fair, both of them use monsters, machines and supernatural beings as the main theme of the game. I mean, you already have rivalries with Kan-Ra vs Anakaris, Sabrewulf vs Talbain, Hisako vs Bishamon, Kim Wu vs Felicia, Spinal vs Lord Raptor, Mira vs Demitri, Aganos vs Hutizil, and many more.
>>382133907
Don't forget Jago vs. Donovan (or Morrigan, if you want face vs. face).
>Morrigan tempting a Tibetan monk
>>382126429
Explains why it was able to hit 60fps.
>>382131920
I know that feel anon, however the game is coming to steam so I guess that will keep it alive for a while. We still have time.
>>382119512
I'd rather they work on a new game
Maybe a new IP or a licensed game
>>382134373
Give them an Image comics fighting game
>Spawn
>Savage Dragon
>Prophet
>Invincible
>Saga
Didn't KI have some of the most character variety when it came to tournament performance? Like, you would regularly see 10-12+ characters rocking through top 8. There was one KI World Cup where almost every character was played in top 8 at least once. That's got to count for something.
>>382135198
I'd prefer an independent comics fighting game. I want to see Cerebus versus Spawn.
>>382131514
>KI vs DS
:)
>Modern Capcom having any sort of involvement
:(
Just give IG a real budget and hope for the best.
>tfw IG is working on a shitty Attack On Titan game instead of KI4 right now
>Right after Adam Boyes from Sony joins them
I fucking hate my conspiratorial mind but jesus christ.
do people still play this game or is it dead? I did play it for a bit while it was on the Win10 store
i wanna get back into it once it releases on steam. hopefully it brings some players back.
>>382136346
To be fair it seems like MS isn't really paying them much for KI any more though, so they need to do something else. Unless a sequel is being kept under wraps.
>>382121971
>Capcom
Into the trash it goes.