LOTR Thread

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Best LOTR game

I'm not sure why Tolkien's estate is allowing these hilariously awful Shadow of War/Shadow of Mordor games to be made when they do nothing but take steaming dumps all over the lore.

I guess making some quick cash is more important than preserving your legacy.

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Why is this even LoTR related?
They clearly dont give a shit about the lore and LoTR hasnt been relevant in years

Wait,Tolkien died!?

>>382115454
probably cause it would have bombed if it didn't have the LOTR name slapped on top of it. It's easier to sell something recognizeable than brand new.

>>382115454
>Why is this even LoTR related?

Because it's an already existing and popular IP so making your own original IP would be a lot harder to sell.

>>382115539
No, they had to bury him alive because he wanted to make another Hobbit trilogy

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>>382115173
But.. but...

>>382114803
Am I the only person hyped for the game?

>Its a LOTRturbonerds whine about canon and purity of medium when discussing EU thread

Why are you all so vehemently butthurt over what happens with this franchise? When the jew son dies you just know the FULL rights are going to go to whoever pays the most. Hope youre ready for that cinematic universe.

>>382115726
DUDE

BLACK


WINDMILL

>>382115787
fuck off shill no one is hyped for press x to beat the game

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>>382115345

They're not allowing it. Warner Bros already has some rights thanks to The Hobbit. Christopher Tolkien hates all this shit.

>mfw Cuck devs shove their agendas and quips into the game

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>>382115787
Yes, orc mode when?

>>382115345
Do you understand how licensing works? The Tolkien Estate sold the licensing rights to LOTR a while ago.

The estate actually tried to sue the company that holds the licenses back in 2012 because the license was only supposed to be used on "tangible" products and not digital/electronic media but I can't find any info on what came from that.

>>382115873
But people loved The Witcher 3.

>>382115345
IIRC Tolkien sold movie and entertainment rights of the LotR to some schlomo back in 60s, so his estate can only whine. Fortunately they still have the rights of Silmarillion.

Should've just made a warhammer fantasy game about orcs doing things.

the first game was fun I will buy the sequel once it is sold for 10-15 trumps

>>382115751
The BEST
>>382115345
Those games are and should be treated as fanfiction.
just laugh as you play.

>>382115345
They probably dont care over all the money they are making.
I am pretty sure super deep lore in fiction only truly matters to fanboys and nerds not regular people.

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>>382114803
>spin-off is not true to the original lore
Gee, this never happened before.

>>382114803
The Middle Earth games are to Tolkien lore, what Assassin's Creed is to actual history.

If you think about it that way, you can still enjoy it.

>>382115454
Because famous brands sell. Why do you think almost every AAA game coming out in recent years is a sequel, a remake, an adaptation, or a spiritual sequel? It's not because there are no original ideas anymore, it's because most gamers (and not just gamers, just look at every single fucking Hollywood movie) are dumb as fuck and will only by what they know.

If it was named something else not based on an existing IP, everyone would've just complained that it's a bland as fuck Ass Creed ripoff where the only redeeming factor was the Nemesis system, and it would've been forgotten a week after release. As it stands, people still said that, but almost nobody gave a fuck because OMG I RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE NAMES IN THIS THAT MEANS IT'S GOOD, I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A BORING AND EDGY VERSION OF ARAGORN KILLING A MILLION ORCS BECAUSE MY DEFINITION OF GOOD CHARACTERS IS THAT OF A 12 YEAR OLD KID WITH ADD.

Im surprised that no one attempted to copy the nemessis system so far.

>>382116027
>all the money they are making
Tolkien's estate actually sued for royalties before the Hobbit movies came out. They said they hadn't seen a penny from any of the movies.

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>>382115967
tolkien orcs vs warhammer orks vs blizzard orcs
who wins?

>>382116148
Apparently the upcoming XCOM2 expansion is taking some inspiration from it.

>>382116269
Are they allowed to bring special/main characters?

>>382115796

>Why are fans of the series that established all norms for fantasy genre to come and is widely loved and respected as some of the greatest books written in modern times angry that a bunch of nu-males protected by Jews can compete with the brilliant mind of Tolkien to create their own canon that only normies like for a shit sequel to a shit game that literally no one asked for

What people want is a lore friendly RPG or for the series to be left alone. Just anything other than fan fiction.

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>>382115173
Nah mate.

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>>382116269
>orKs
Obviously they do, due to superior technological level. The fantasy ones are spelled with a C.

>>382116269
Do you mean Warhammer Fantasy Orcs, or Warhammer 40k Orks?

If it's 40K Orks, they win easily. If it's Fantasy Orcs, they probably still win but the Blizzard Orcs could put up a hell of a fight depending on the circumstances. Tolkien Orcs would lose in all matchups though.

>>382116148
The Nemesis system is technically really impressive amount of content.
So many orcs to write and voice lines for and so many headgear and armor to make them stand out.

>>382116414
>No slow mo code
>But superior co-op

I can't decide.

>>382115345
WB is exploiting some loophole in the licensing. That's why they're called "Middle Earth" rather than LotR. And Christopher Tolkien is an old fart, I sincerely doubt he's very aware of these games or their content.
>>382115539
Tolkien has been dead since the 70s.

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>>382116269

You already know the answer.

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>>382116475
>>382116476
my bad I didnt know that changed between 40k
I have committed heresy and await summary judgment

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>>382115796
It's almost like some people have respect for artists and the integrity of their work.

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>>382116387
sure why not?

>>382116701
inb4 you get called an autist for this reasonable comment

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The Lore and the world is literally all laid out for game devs and Hollywood but they still fuck up.

>>382116701

Did their work change you fucking retard?

Does making this game change the book?

>>382114803
The reveal trailer was fucking awful.
The "unexpectedly eloquent hulk" joke is already overplayed, but they stretched it out so much it became painful.

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>>382116758
Then Tolkien orcs bring melkor and sauron into the fight and win, Blizz orcs bring green jesus, grom hellscream, and grom's son and do some damage but ultimately bow before the power of literal gods. Grimgor, Grom the paunch, Azhag, Wurrzhag and Skarsnik all put on a good show but their gods aren't all that proactive and so they get defeated too.

>>382117154
>Bright Lord, Dark Lord same thing really
fucking end me

Tolkien himself did not regard his work as a dogmatic canon. He wrote and rewrote everything constantly, and intended for it to be a body of work to which people could contribute.

There's no way he could have predicted video games, but given his written feelings on LOTR, I doubt he would have been as defensive about it as you knobs.

>>382117436

>From Fear to LOTR Fan-fiction

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>>382114803
>pre-launch of SoM
>"we're doing our own twist on lore but it will be fairly accurate and very plausible within the world"
>be a big tolkienfag and suspicious of this statement but okay i can accept this
>it's outlandish bullshit and takes a shit on the lore
>SoW comes
>it takes even bigger shits in multiple quantities on the lore

I never should've trusted them.

>>382117154
pop

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I never see this mentioned in LOTR threads but I really liked it.

>>382117661
>>382117436
That right there. Fucking hell.

>>382115787
I'm going to get it. I wouldn't say I'm hyped though. I enjoyed the first one, I'm sure this one will be fine as well.

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>>382117039
My dream game will always be a ranger-simulator in the aftermath of the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, where you try to survive and hunt orcs in a world that turns darker, capitalizing on the feeling of nostalgia and melancholy while you roam ruins and twisted forests.

Bonus mission: FIGHT AN UNWINNABLE BATTLEAGAINST MELKOR AS NOBODY ELSE BUT FUCKING FINGOLFIN
HOW LONG CAN YOU LAST WHILE BLIND GUARDIAN PLAYS IN THE BACKGROUND?

Does anyone actually give a shit about the lore?

At least this way they arent restricted with what they do cause of canon.

>>382117246
I'd pay to see Gork and Mork fight Melkor and Sauron.

Though I think Melkor > G&M > Sauron in terms of power levels.

>>382117595
>ANOTHER Ring
>Also Black Númenóreans are BLACK

>>382116414
This. I played the shit out of this with my brother when we were kids.

>>382116269
I'm going to assume you meant orcs from WH. Orks are from 40K and they could literally wipe out the other two combined in one Waggggh.

I would still put my money on WHF orcs though. Orcs from LotR are just mutated elves and kind of buffer humans, they aren't fuckhueg or really advanced in any way. WC Orcs would have some plot armour cause Metzen is a hack and turned Thrall into dindu Jesus and the noble savages and shit. They could have magic which LOTR orcs don't have. However, Orcs from WH are just a huge, memetically powered super horde. If Grimgor was leading them they would trounce the WH Orcs who don't even act Orcy anymore.

>>382117595
Get fucked nerd

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>>382117676
underrated gem desu
had so much fun playing through this with a friend back when it came out

>>382118178
>and kind of buffer humans
They aren't, they are weaker than humans and sometimes called goblins. Also the mutated elf thing is just one of many theories, that is only "canon" because it made it into the Silmarillion. And even there it was only implied. Tolkien himself was never really sure where they shold come from.

>>382117595
>Being this much of an autist
Who cares? It's a fun orc slayer and that's all I want. I just hope you're not as overpowered this time.

>>382118364
I assumed when they meant LOTR orcs, they meant the Uruk'Hai guys from the movies and not goblins. Do they have an over-arching greenskin race in LOTR?

>>382118364
>They aren't, they are weaker than humans and sometimes called goblins.
He's probably thinking about the Uruk-Hai.

>>382118493
>Not able to kill Elves, Dwarves, Hobbits and all other forms of non-humans
Why can't I go full crusade in any games?

>>382114803
If you unironically pay even a single cent for this, you are not a follower of Wotan. This trash goes against the very spiritual foundation of Tolkien's work and the traditions that it is based upon.

>>382118519
>Do they have an over-arching greenskin race in LOTR?
First of all, LotR orcs aren't green.

Second, orcs -are- the over-arching greenskin race. Uruk-Hai aren't a race of their own, they're just elite orcs that are bred for war by Saruman in an attempt to outdo Sauron.

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>>382116269

You know it

>>382114803
Tolkien wasn't a fat useless nerd so he probably wouldn't care that much.

>>382117039
I just want a fuckhuge adventure game set in middle earth.

>>382118812
Calm down. Greenskin is a commonly accepted term for orcs/goblins and other such races.

>>382115345
I don't think Shadow of Mordor/War ever tried to pretend it was canon though. More like a what if story, if anything. As in, what if wraiths could be bound to people and give them superpowers. Weird as fuck, but obviously fanfiction

>>382118776
I don't even know what that is.

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The E3 reveal had some of the most cringy writing I have ever seen in a game, holy shit. It seemed like every time that orc opened his mouth he had to monologue for 15 minutes just to tell you basic information. It was trying desperately to be "clever" but just came off as a 12-year-old's idea of wit. Why does every writer these days think verbosity and quips is good writing?

>>382119074
Only in Warhammer.

The one licence EA of all scum actually handled better.

>>382116269
Blizzard Orcs would win over WHF Orcs. Tolkien Orcs would be as much of a threat to either of them as a fly is to a planet.
And 40K Orks would obliterate all 3 at the same time as a morning exercise

>>382115914
>sell rights
>get upset and try to sue who you sold it to
Tim Hortons all over again

>>382114803
Shadow of bullshit is probably the worst video game archetype I could imagine existing in middle earth
>fan fiction edgy bullshit
>worst combat system in gaming, bar none
>replace good writing with some ebin "living" ai system
>focus entirely on edgy bullshit mordor and forgo the beautiful and interesting world of middle earth

>>382117676
>tfw the skill system allowed me to be a complete autist and literally grind for every single ability in the starting area
Loved it.

>>382118096
Me too man, bring me back to those times please

I unironically love how much this series pisses off autistic Tolkiencucks, even if some of them may just be falseflaggers.

>>382114803
Game will be boring after 2 hours just like the first one

>>382119232
Even if blizzard orcs couldn't win they'd just get retconned until they do.

>>382119585
2 minutes *
I could barely stand to watch the gameplay reveal

>>382118884
>that guy who was such a traditionalist he would loudly sing hymns in latin rather than sing them in english like every one else
>that guy who had a fan present him with a finely made goblet with the one ring's inscription on it and he used it as his ashtray

>>382119164
Warcraft
Of Orcs and Men
Warlords Battlecry

>>382119767
Oh right, my bad. When I said Warhammer I should've said Warhammer and a couple of other games that shamelessly copied Warhammer.

>>382118493
Then they shouldn't pretend that they're trying to be accurate to begin with.

>>382119472
Every game should do this. You should control the degree of progress and difficulty, not some arbitrary system of parceling out abilities. If you want to spend 20 hours playing and getting strong before the main quest, you should be able to. If you want to rush the game and finish the main quest in 10 hours without leveling, you should be able too.

>>382119232
You literally can't win against 40k orks unless you firebomb the entire planet since they just shoot spores everywhere that grow into more orks when you aren't looking
Aside from that I'm pretty sure a single ork could kill them all just by spraying bullets everywhere

>>382119869
Warhammer shamelessly copied LOTR, so what's the problem?

>>382119994
The "problem" is that calling LotR Orcs greenskins is retarded.

>>382119902
problem is that if games allow this, eventually a bunch of retards will spend 20 hours grinding skills, then complain the game is to easy and give you shit reviews

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>>382115173
>>382116414
>not the GBA version
Literally Diablo set in Middle-earth.

>>382120091
>Caring about and defending the taxonomy of any kind of Orc
You fucking faggot heretic.

>>382117039

Wtf is that supposed to be? Gondolin?

>>382120154
What, they couldn't buy good reviews like all other games these days? Who honestly cares about reviews? In all seriousness, does anyone actually listen to a "professional" review these days?

>>382119759
wasn't this because tolkien specifically created dark speech to contain every single element he hated about languages mixed into one ungodly ugly brew so he considered completely unsuitable to drink out of a cup inscribed with it?

>>382119767
>Warlords Battlecry
You remind me that I have to train my orc death knight.

>>382120179
I want to cum in her.

>>382120345
>does anyone actually listen to a "professional" review these days
sadly enough, yes they do
we don't, but remember, we're not the average gamer. As shit as this place may be, it is made up out of some of the most informed customers in the entire industry. Take that as you will.

>>382115345
they aren't canon and the games are fun

>>382116414
defending minas tirith' wall as gandalf was the hardest shit when i first played it. so many resets

>>382116269
>orks
Oh you mean the ones that start a battle by hollowing a meteor, filling it full of tanks and boyz, and sending it crashing into the planet they want to fuck up? I'm gonna go with those ones.

>>382120607
yeh at least it's fairly easy to ignore these in the grander scope of things
the hobbit trilogy was a LOT more damaging and I can perfectly understand all their hatred is focused on that lil' abomination

>>382120196
>a fucking Warhammer roleplayer

Of course. Why is it always you morons talking shit?

>>382118884
Tolkien was an autist sperglord nevertheless. He had to be to spend 50 years creating a fantasy world inside his head, overdetailed to the point of having created languages. Reading LOTR is like taking part on a guided tour. "And here is the place where King Whocares II from the lost kingdom of whatever fell in battle against orcs in the year 2344 of the bajillionth era. Now here's a detailed chart of Whocares' genealogy".

>>382114803

Wait a fucking minute, I just watched the trailer and there's a new ring??

I'm OK with stretching the lore a bit to allow new characters to exist in the world and timeline but what the fuck.

>watch Hobbit EE
>Mirkwood is just a stone throw's away from Rohan
>Rohan has to fight Orkz alone in the books, dudes from Lorien and Rivendell from farther away have to show up in the movie

Thranduil is still a dick

>>382120735
Honey don't be so mad. It sounds like my little special guy needs himself a nappy-poo. Why don't you go lay down and I'll come tuck you in and read you a story?

>>382118178
True, but while WH orcs are stronger than WC or Tolkien orcs Sauron and Mekor are stronger than any of the orc leaders in WH and WC. Melkor could singlehandedly wipe out Grimgor's horde and Sauron could probably best him mano y mano.

Orcs in Middle Earth are certainly deadly and feared but their masters were always feared more.

>>382120773
This happened at the end of the first game. Talion and the Elf ghost made a copy of the One Ring so they could fight Sauron on equal terms.

It's completely retarded, just like everything else about these games.

>>382116273
They're still trying to sail that sunken ship, huh?

>>382119887
The marketers pander to anyone. Just with these simple lines you can be one too.
>we will bring our own twist on established franchise, but stay as close as possible to the original
>we will look into implementing thing you want in the future
>we appreciate your feedback and will look into your suggestions
You don't actually do anything, but the retarded children/manchildren trust you and fall for it every single time.

>>382120967
Considering both of the games were highly successful, it's inevitable.

>>382120773
if it's just a lesser ring, not a big deal
Saruman made himself a lesser ring in the books and given the MC does have the spirit of Celebrimbor attached to him (aka the guy who made the original rings) the knowledge and skill to make one would most certainly be present.

>>382120945
Gork and Mork would troll the fuck out of Melkor and Sauron. They would literally make a magic stick and poke him in the giant flaming eye, or make magic pepper spray or eye drops to fuck with him.

>>382121050
It explicitly isn't a lesser ring though.

>>382120864

Yes Thranduil was a dick and the elves didn't give a fuck about anything anymore. The ones in Lorien were getting ready to leave and the ones in Mirkwood just didn't give a shit.

That doesn't explain how there's a NEW FUCKING RING OF POWER though. Who makes this ring? Who thought it was a good idea to fuck with the lore this much?

>>382119759
>>382120740
He truly embodies the best elements of /ourguy/.

>>382120961
>>382121050
>copy of the one ring
nevermind, that's retarded
lesser ring would have been completely okay but it's literally IMPOSSIBLE for any being other than a Maiar on the level of Sauron himself (good fucking luck finding one of those and getting them to come to middle earth) to create something even approaching the One Ring given it's creation specifically involved Sauron placing a great deal of his original essence into the object.

Not even god damn Feanor could have pulled that one off.

>>382120179

THAT GAME WAS THE SHIT

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>>382121139

Yeah that's the thing, this ring in the trailer is a rival to Sauron's. "The Bright Lord" and other complete bullshit.

I would be much happier with a game where you can choose someone famous from the lore and have him steal and use the One Ring, like Gandalf or Elrond or Aragorn or really anyone. A twist on existing lore not some made up bullshit about new One Rings.

>>382121138
Gork and Mork never really do much though. At least, they aren't as direct with their boys as Sauron and Melkor are.

I'd love to see Gork and Mork v Melkor and Sauron but it's hard to judge what'd happen and who'd get krumped when we don't know enough about Garfunkle and McDonald's aside from they can krump the Chaos Gods. But Melkor for a while was much stronger than the Chaos Gods were judging by the Silmarillion and comparisons. But was he stronger than Gork and Mork? Who knows.

>>382120864
Sauron actually send an even larger army out north during the siege of Minas Tirith which was stopped by the combined strength of the elves and dwarves

>>382121532
>they can krump the Chaos Gods
Even that's highly arguable.

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>>382121549
>no Lord of the Rings: War in the North movie

They should do it while Billy Connolly is still alive.

>>382121283

Well if they wrote the game's lore so that a Maiar did come to make a ring to rival Sauron's I'd be happier with it.

Not happy, just happier.

I'd be happiest if I could have Saruman's orcs overpower Sauron's and then he finds the Ring like he wanted and sets himself up as an even greater Dark Lord.

>>382121461
eh, in lore using the one Ring has only one end result: Evil Overlord rules Middle Earth with an iron fist.

Someone powerful grabbing the one ring and using it is a losing scenario, nothing more nothing less.

Unless 'course you want to play a "what if" scenario about how the Tyrant King Aragorn conquers the world and eventually tries to pull an Ar-Pharazôn

>>382121614

Unless you're talking Age of Smegmar I think it's said somewhere in Oldhammer that they troll the Chaos Gods for fun and Gork can match Khorne and Khaine in a fight.

Are there Ogres in LotR? I know they have orcs, goblins and trolls. There are no more dragons left since Smaug bit the bullet right? In the Simillarion I read they had stories about vampires and werewolves but they are gone now too right?

>>382116269
40k > WH Fantasy > Blizzard > Tolkien

WH Fantasy mainly cause insane numbers & breeding.

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>>382122049

>>382121549
The North was hit by Rhun and the Dales-Dorfs got stomped on hard, had to hide in the mountains and lost most of their land to the Easterlings. The Easterlings started deserting after Sauron's death and that's when the Dorf-Dales counterattacked and won.

The Elves attacked Dol Guldur but they outnumbered Sauron's force there and this was after Sauron died.

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Not sure how it aged, but I know I enjoyed it more than the movies

>>382121868
Don't see that as a likely scenario either. A good part of Saruman's story and character arc was that despite his delusions of grandeur and despite his power, he was still played like a god damn fiddle by Sauron.
He never was Sauron's equal, he never even was anything close to a threat and didn't come anywhere near finding the one ring. The one person he actually feared at any point before Frodo revealing himself at the end was Aragorn.

I am so fucking glad Tolkien isn't alive to see this.

Is the elf ghost Celebrimbor, the forger of the three Elven rings?

I might possibly see that as maybe being possible. Not that his ghost would leave the Halls of Mandos, but that if for some reason it did maybe it could instruct someone (not a human) on how to forge a ring of power.

Hmm.

>>382122212
>I enjoyed it more than the movies

movies are shit desu

>>382122072
My nigga

>>382122328
>Is the elf ghost Celebrimbor, the forger of the three Elven rings?

Yep, that's him.

>>382119015
>tfw oblivion lotr mod that got shutdown

>>382122050
There are no ogres, if there were vampires and werewolves they're almost certainly in decline or extinct, LotR and to a lesser extent the Hobbit takes place in a world where magical things are in decline, it's why the elves in the books and movies are slowly migrating across the sea and why anyone who bore a ring of power has to leave as well.

>>382122441
why, there's lots of lotr mods for lots of games

>>382122269
There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power.

>>382122328
Even then, at the very best, he could create something equal to the 9.
And the act of creating and subsequently using it would be like creating a mountain sized neon sign reading "threat here" for the likes of Sauron, at which point he sends the wraiths over to deal with the upstart.
Which given it's a 9 vs 1 deal would end up pretty badly for said 1.

Even running wouldn't work, there'd be nowhere to hide while using the ring. The only place he could potentially be safe would be in the presence of the bearers of the 3, and they'd NEVER let that happen.

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>mfw I really enjoyed Shadow of Mordor because I played it before any of the Arkham games

>>382122269

That's because Saruman was only allowed to go to Middle Earth with limited power and in the guise of an old man, like the other wizards.

I think if he were to gain the essence of Sauron's much greater, much less limited power through the ring he could become greater. Saruman had the powers of industry and invention and created orcs even more powerful than Sauron did. Sauron and Saruman were both servants of Aule but Sauron was corrupted by Melkor and only created things in mockery like Melkor did. Saruman's strength in creation was stronger.

I like thinking about these things :)

>>382122465
Given that Sauron originally was the lord of Werewolves I could see them existing.
Be it exclusively in his service and very few in numbers.

If I were to guess as to why they weren't in the books, they were probably used to aid the northern army as the southern one was already supported by the 9.

>>382119015
Daily reminder that EA killed The White Council to make a LotR Battlefront knock-off.

>>382117070
That's fucking irrelevant, and you know it.

It's using characters and the setting Tolkien created, and defacing them.

>>382122720
yeh if Saruman were to get the ring he'd become the next dark ruler
just saying, he was never in a position where acquiring the one ring was a possibility and if he were to come into such position, Sauron would know of it the instant he cooked up the plan.

>>382122465
>extinct
Vampires and Werewolves weren't biological creatures, they were evil spirits taking the form of monstrous bats and wolves.

>>382116269
Warcraft Orcs win if you use Blizzards retarded modern lore. If you pick the Warcraft orcs that everyone likes though probably not.

>>382122465
>and why anyone who bore a ring of power has to leave as well
Why's that? Does it leave some sort of mark on you? Not that experienced with Lotr lore

>>382122882

Tolkien would have loved this, it's only his faggot jew son that is hating

>>382123101
they were mortals who carried around the essence of one of the greatest spirits in existence that turned all of his great power towards malice and domination

this left a massive mark on their souls to the point that even Sam had to eventually leave middle earth despite carrying the Ring for less than a day

>>382114803
LotR is a popcorn epic, the lore is shit. The game is being held back by using very dry lore that doesn't really give much room for creativity.

>>382122898

Yes but what would Sauron have been able to do? He had no physical form. His will through the ring would battle with Saruman's, but Saruman was for a while incredibly strong even if limited. The nazgul would have been bent to Saruman's will too.

Saruman was weak at the end, taking petty revenge on the hobbits and getting stabbed in the back, but he wasn't always so so I guess it would depend on when he acquired the ring.

Still better than the bullshit Bright Lord of this game.

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>>382115913
>tfw only ever played as evil factions in Battle for Middle Earth and Third Age TW

It's so much fun laying waste to Middle-earth I don't think I can ever stop.

>>382123197
Surely you know better than the man Tolkien entrusted his legacy to.

>>382118226
>it's just knockoff Final Fantasy
wow underrated

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>>382123315

>LotR lore is shit
>literally created entire languages and mythology that rivals the best in history

>>382122580
he can just mash space to be invincible

>>382123341
While Sauron had no physical form he still had his immense willpower.
If one of Saruman's "loyal" uruk-hai had the ring and was bringing it to him, all he had to do was focus his attention on that one creature for some time and it'd come crawling all the way to the gates of Mordor

>>382123357

"entrusted"

He literally fucking died and his son inherited.

Who else could he have given it to?

and yeah kids NEVER get greedy after their parent dies and abuse their will

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>>382118226
>Hint: Attack

>>382122072
Not to mention Warhammer orcs are basically the setting's version of Sayans, becoming bigger and stronger everytime they survive a good fight

>>382123506

>making a language
>Woahh see its so awesome

??

I could make a language and just structure it around variations of the word poop, that doesn't make it deep or insightful

Effort =/= a good product

LOOK AT ME I SPENT 300 HOURS PLAYING WITH MY POOP, ITS A MASTERPIECE

>>382123309

The 3 elven rings were what kept their domains safe and immortal, but they were dependent on the One Ring to remain somewhere in the world for their power to continue. Once it was destroyed (as they knew had to happen) their power began to fade and it was just a matter of time until all they created and protected came to an end. The elves knew it was time to depart and either return to the Undying Lands or go there for the first time if they were of those that refused the call in ages past.

I used to be an enormous Tolkien geek but I forgot so much.

>>382114803
It's fanfic, who gives a fuck?

christ this new game looks like a trainwreck in the making.
>HOW SHALL WE LEAVE THE LOST ROAD?

What if I build a ship and sail west?

or if I climb the icy mountains up north and move west?

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>>382123197
>Tolkien would have loved some cynical revenge story that glorifies indiscriminate violence and has shitty BamHam combat

>>382123681
You are an imbecile.

>>382115913
wonder if the lotr human armies would be able to stop grimgor's waaaaaagh

>>382123552

Not true or he would have been able to get Gollum, Bilbo, Frodo or Sam to just come.

His will was strong but not nearly as strong as it could have been. Pippin survived it, and Aragorn outright defied it. Granted that was only brief moments through a palantir, but it wouldn't have been possible if Sauron had had the ring. He was incredibly diminished.

>>382123937

Of course he would love his books

His entire book is a revenge story against Sauron

>>382123793
yup, everything that was touched by the one ring had to depart middle earth
the 9 would have departed as well could they have survived without the existence of the one ring and had one of the 7 survived in the hands of a dwarf, said dwarf would have become sane for the first time in centuries and be granted passage on the elven ships

>>382116269

Blizzard orcs. Right now, they are closer to the dawis than the greenskins technologically speaking. They have access to both strong nautical and aeronautical forces, and could use elementals, deamons and blight strains, if drastically needed.

But obviously orkz would wipe their arses with them, because 40k is the definition of power play

>>382123874

You wind up reaching China or whatever other lands exist (was it ever said?). The world was made round and the Undying Lands removed from it so only elves could find the way. Humans would just sail around.

Unless you are Earendil. Are you Earendil? Come on you can admit it.

>>382124219
>only elves could find the way

What is with this elvish favoritism?

When an elf dies they just respawn in the Undying Lands, they can come back east if they want to but most don't.

Tolkien is a hack.

>>382123315
No, it's being held back by the retarded devs tying themselves to the aesthetic of the fucking movies and refusing to move away from the time frame in which they take place.

There are literally thousands of years of history and entire continents that have never really been explored outside of Tolkien's own work, and they choose to make an entire game around the most significant and overused region in all of Tolkien's legendarium.

>>382124038
Gollum, despite his depravity, had an incredibly powerful will.
This is apparent because after all he'd been through, after all his ordeals, Smeagol never died. There are elf lords who'd given in faster.
And the hobbits were both creatures of great resistance towards evil and also to small (in all meanings of the word) for him to notice

And Aragorn, like you said, was the rightful king using his birthright. In Tolkien's mythology such things carry incredible power and even then Aragorn defying his will was the closest anyone's gotten to hurting him since losing the ring and sent him into panic mode.

Controlling a being as corrupted and obedient as an Uruk-Hai however would be child's play.

>>382124038
Sauron had problems getting the Hobbits to him because barely existed when he was alive. He just didn't understand how to tempt them since they didn't have big aspirations like most of the fellowship.

>>382124094
No it isn't.

>>382120179
>it has multiplayer
Playing this through with friends is fun as fuck.

So what's the consensus on Shadow of Mordor? I never bothered picking it up but for £3 it seems like a steal.

>>382124352

Lol no they can't. Their spirits live in the Halls of Mandos, awaiting the time when everyone comes together to sing a new song and create a new, uncorrupted world together.

I guess in this game though Celebrimbor either finds a way out of the Halls or is allowed to go back. I don't fucking know, it's retarded.

>>382114803
people should really be viewing these games as non-canon fanfiction. that being said, I did have a lot of fun with the first game and I'm looking forward to the second

>>382114803

One of these days or maybe in the near future, one faggot will say, "Well we see Tolkien's works as more of a setting we can create awesome experiences with interesting characters." when raping canon if they haven't already said it.

>>382124430

Yes it is, Frodo and such also get revenge against Saruman at the end of them

>>382124404

He can't directly control or contact someone carrying the ring though.

But I neglected to think that the stupid orc would just put the ring on, and then all bets are off and GG.

>>382124508
maybe he didnt leave

>>382124498
If you're looking for challenging content it'd be a waste of your 3 pounds

>>382124508
>Their spirits live in the Halls of Mandos
Which is in the Undying Lands.

>>382124508
>>382124652
In these games, Celebrimbor never got to see Mandos, he's bound to Mordor because he modified and stole the Ring. He can only go to the Halls of Mandos if Sauron dies, hence the revenge plot.

>>382124512

Anyone can make non-canon fanfiction, and most of it is total shit, not just LOTR fanfiction.

>>382124498
Not challenging, but I think it's fun. For me it's seeing all kinds of Orcs pretty much. For £3 you don't have much to lose anyway

>>382124352
>When an elf dies they just respawn in the Undying Lands, they can come back east if they want to but most don't.
I'm pretty sure that after Fingolfin, Feanor, etc. left, leaving Valinor was made verboten.

And I don't think any elf that died has ever left the Halls of Mandos. It's said that they can (after a long period of time), but I can't think of any specific instance of a dead elf being back among the living.

>>382117947
>HOW LONG CAN YOU LAST WHILE BLIND GUARDIAN PLAYS IN THE BACKGROUND?

ok, you have my blade

>>382124646
he could force his will on orcs though, it's why when during the finale when he realized in just how much danger he was, all orcs become confused when he mentally abandoned them

remember that joining up in huge armies is NOT the natural state of the orcs, if left to their own devices they join up in smaller warbands and tribes. He still enforced this behavior on them mentally. If instead he focused on a single orc or orcish offspring he could control them like a puppet.

And even if that didn't work he could easily send the nazgul over to intercept the ring before it reached saruman

>>382124975
Glorfindel did, didn't he?

>>382124975
Glorfy did, but in meta it,s jsut because Tolkien liked the guy and the name, and just decided that it was all the same guy

If someone like Galadriel or Saruman had tried to claim the Ring's power for themselves, would they have just "become" Sauron (as in, becoming possessed by him or something) or could they actually have usurped the Ring from him and turned into a new flavor of Dark Lord? That part was always unclear to me.

Nah, he wouldn't have given a shit, bad as it is.

You really don't know much about what Tolkien was like. He wasn't an autistic jackass like you.

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>>382123315
I hope you burn in hell

>>382119162
I honestly didnt care about it at all. The game looks decently fun, its obviously not cannon and seems very silly in that regard but if its a success then maybe we can get a new lotr rts game a la bfme

>>382125120
he was sent back by the Valar to help against Sauron, I think. he didn't return of his own accord.

>>382124625
I think you have completely misunderstood the Books anon.

>>382125394
new flavor of dark lord
Sauron would still have existed but been a mostly powerless spirit (similar to how he ended up when the ring was destroyed) for as long as they reigned

and if (or when) they lost the ring he'd slowly reform

>>382125394
They'd have been a shitty kind of Dark Lord with some early success but major weaknesses stemming from classic tropes like too greedy/ambitious/untrustworthy etc, probably would have fucked up and made poor out of character decisions because of the ring until they lost it

Only Sauron can control the ring properly

>>382124625
Frodo tries to prevent that though

>>382122629
I think SOM is superior to the open world meme Bamham games (though Origins is almost as good) but they all pale to asylum.

>>382125648
I'd say Galadriel would have been a fairly successful dark lord given her age, wisdom and the fact she doesn't have any innately low qualities so the ring had to corrupt her higher ones

only Sauron could truly master it but there's sufficient character in LOTR where acquiring the ring would end up with them gaining control over middle earth

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>>382125721

>frodo tries to prevent the saving of the shire

??

I'm happy that SoW is a thing because it is a fucking video gamey ass video game.
Too much cinematic crap nowadays.

>>382125837
nah, by the time they met Saruman the Shire was already saved and he merely pitied what Saruman had become

>>382125837
Oh, I was wrong. You didn't read the books at all.

Can we all take a moment to talk about how absolutely horrific, atrocious, terrible, bad, shit, poor, horrid, awful, disappointing the ending to Shadow of Mordor was, in terms of story, lore and most of all gameplay

>>382126000

Yes but they still fought him?

>>382126020

I read the wiki summaries cos the first book was to boring

>>382126095
they fought to liberate the Shire from his forces occupying it
by the time they actually got to the ol' wizard, said forces were defeated and he was not that much more than a miserable old man, a pale shadow of what he once was

and Frodo never took up a leadership figure during the liberation of the Shire, he mostly tried to prevent the hobbits from enacting their vengeance towards those that collaborated with Saruman

>>382126095
Do you have ADHD?

>>382126087
I just finished playing it, what the fuck even happened? Sauron tried to draw Celebrimbor's spirit out but failed?

>>382126095
the only violent thin that happened in the scorching of the shire is that Wormtongue killed Lotho and Saruma. Then He was promptly killed by some random Hobbit archer.

>>382126280
I don't know man, I didn't know what the fuck was going on for the entire sequence. It ran from where the fuck am I? Why is that fucker alive again? What is this boss battle? Why is this boss even worse? Am i still playing the same game? What the fuck is he doing here? What the fuck is going on?

>>382126276

no, I've read other long series like Wheel of Time , Song of Ice and Fire and Malazan Book of the fallen

It's just lord of the rings was lame, I couldn't muster enough enthusiasm to keep reading after the tom bombadil part

I read the hobbit though


>>382126275
Yeah but Frodo at that point is just all PTSD whiny bitch

>>382115345
Christopher Tolkien complains and complains yet he still gives them the right to do this. why is that? because studios give him alot of fucking money. in fact, money seems to shut him up effectively. he's a piece of shit.

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>>382116269
>>382122072
You also forgot to mention that Tolkien's Orcs are fucking manlets.
A "Huge orc chieftain." was described as being ALMOST the height of a man. Even canonical Uruk-Hai are shorter than your average human. The only thing they got going for them is numbers and the fact that the Dark Powers cheat and bring big dick OGs to every fight.

>>382126514
You read through all of ASOIAF but you thought LOTR was "bland"? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>382125852
hello NakeyJakey

>>382126569
Christopher never sold the rights, JRR did, in the 60's
and hollywood lawyers have successfully tried to extend it as far as they possibly could

>>382126656

the last 2 books of ASOIAF are shit as well

First 3 are good though

Wheel of time also gets lame in the middle but by that time I'm already invested into finishing it while with LOTR I've seen the movies ect so I feel like I got an idea of the story

>>382126514
You mean you actually read all of ASOIAF? What kind of super autist are you?

>>382126479
Worst thing was that they made the ending into a fucking ACTION SEQUENCE

>tfw genuinely looking forward to this.
The fortress assaults look dope as fuck.

>>382114803
Game is fun tho.

>>382126848
I would argue that half of the third book isn't all to great either.

>>382126949

I haven't seen anything of the game yet, is the nemesis system here and improved ?

>>382126514
I'm pretty sure Frodo was a whiny little bitch through out the whole series and the only reason why he makes it to mordor in the first place is because Sam almost literally carries him the whole way there.

Didn't they put kangz in the game?

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>>382115345
It's painfully fucking obvious that they didn't intend to make a LOTR game originally, but WB went "Hey, we have this license, just shove that shit in there." and the Devs had to do it.

It doesn't even really feel like an LOTR game even with all the Tolkien trimmings, it feels like some completely different dark fantasy but with Lord of the Rings tossed at it like a security blanket.

But to be perfectly honest, the "Lol I'm such a nerd XD Geek culture!" beta-male crowed probably wouldn't have even looked at the game if it didn't say "Middle Earth" and "Mordor" on the cover.

LOTR is still in and chich, right?

>>382127005
Not him, but yeah, looks much better imo. When you dominate orcs you don't have to brand them, instead you can shame them to reduce their level by one and give them a handshaped scar on their cheek, making them come back for revenge. Branded orcs can betray you, your branded orcs in a fortress can be found out and executed and so on

>>382127457

so you can't just mind fuck orcs and have them be loyal forever ?

Interesting . I absolutely loved it when you killed a guy and he came back for more with better gear or something, I remember one guy just kept coming back even though I kept killing him in different ways

was such a fun little roleplay experience

>>382127141
Yeah, The geek crowd still eats that shit up even though they have only ever watched the movies.

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>>382127116
They exist in the Tolkienverse. There's a place down south of Gondor and Umbar called Haradrim which is basically fantasy middle east.
The further south you go the darker the skin, but they're usually described as "Evil men", though there's a chance that there's at least a few of them who don't want to sacrifice people to Morgoth and worship Sauron.

>>382127608
Yeah, they can leave you for several reasons. If you didn't stop them from bleeding out in a fort assault for example. One guy even came back after getting his leg and arm chopped off by Talion, although he was never branded

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>>382114803

>>382127805
I know about Haradrim, but they are not kangz, also did they really made Black Numenoreans black?

>>382127805
What happened to these guys after RotK?

Did Aragorn and Eomer burn their lands and took their women as trophies?

I cannot see them forgiving these retards who willingly joined the wrong side. Rohan has an axe to grind.

>>382128006
Subjugated. So yes.

>>382115345
>lore

Yeah I'm sure non-neckbeards care about that

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Angmar > Mordor

>>382116269
>all these replies from 40K babbys
Cringe

>>382128485
What exactly happened to Angmar?

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>>382128003
>Did they make Black Numenoreans black skinned?

No, that was
A. Someone on /v/ trolling really hard.
and
B. Filthy secondaries seeing the word "black" and thinking they meant "Black skinned" and not "Evil.
This guy is a Black Numernorian, for instance.

>>382128006
They surrendered to the Reunited Kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor and released their holdings on land that's rightfully Gondorian like South Gondor and Umbar before being allowed to live in peace.
I couldn't tell you what happened after that, there isn't much info on the Fourth Age outside of a few important things like what happened to the Fellowship and the geopolitical landscape.

>>382114803
>>382127805
>>382128003
>kangz
They are know as trollmen of harad and are the most ruthless and savage barbarians in the world

This game can still redeem itself if in the end Celebrimbor is completely rekt by Sauron for having the audacity to think forging another ring could actually work, for evil cannot drive out evil.

>>382128629

It got rekt

>>382128813
Sauron is dead nigga. You Button prompted him.

>>382117436
Well he's not wrong. Both are edgy tryhards. Brighty is just on a more favorable side than FIRE AND BRIMSTONE the Character

>>382128929
no, you just fend him off.

>>382123998
absolutly not. WHFB Orks stomp all over the LotR orcs. LotR orcs are better disciplined, but green skins are bigger n' badder. Even with gunpowder tech, the empire as alot of trouble with orks.

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>>382128629
Witch King ate shit, and with no leadership the Orcs panicked and lost ground to the Dwarves really quickly.
The last time you hear about the Orcs they disappeared into the deepest, darkest reaches of the mountain after Gundabad was retaken.

>>382128629
Steamrolled Arnor then got annihilated by elves+Gondor.

>>382128003
>>382128721
>Someone on /v/ trolling really hard.
I must admit that I like to do this one.
I wonder how they wriggle around literal Negros suddenly in middle-earth.
Kang of South that dindun nuffin on exile?

>>382121050
Nope, at the end of the first game he says. IT IS TIME FOR ANOTHER RING. So it will be the One Ring vs. The Another Ring both made by Celebrimbor wich will be the same level.

>>382120864
>>382121146
Watch your fucking mouth. Lee Pace is my husbando.

>>382120297

Aye pal, do yuknow when ya winna RPG game set ther

>>382129336
Celebrimbor didn't make the One Ring, that was all Sauron, in Mt. Doom. Kind of a plot point.

>>382129545
At least in the game, Sauron got Celebrimbor to help modify the One Ring

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what character from the books do you think they will add and ruin completely? My guess is Faramir.

Someone give me a summary of Huor, Tuor, Turin, and Hurin
I cannot ever fucking remember which one is which
Turin has the byname Turambar so I suppose the must be the one who got his hand bitten off while holding a Silmaril

>>382115751
Paper-mache buildings, super-ultra-alpha-nuclear superpowers out of the ass on 30 second cooldowns, win in five minutes through build order or play half an hour of blind cavalry merry-go-round until someone gets lucky, but then if the guy is a sore loser and won't surrender you have to wait ten more minutes for your catapults to kill his fortress. And Helm's Deep eventually gets old.

>>382123315
>Lore is shit
>a solid big world with biomas, ecosystem, history and culture for each different creature, languages, alphabets and so on
>LotR is just a small slice of what is Middle Earth itself
>The Tolkien State could still make more and more stories around the middle earth eternal conflicts but they prefer just keep receiving money from a over 100 years dead guy's work

>>382129694
doesnt SoM and SoW take place like ~25 years before fellowship?

>>382129694
He is already ruined in popular culture though
>hurr durr let's have him be tempted by the Ring
>durr hurr let's have him take the hobbits to Osgiliath

>>382129960
I believe it is from before the Hobbit since golum is trying to recover the ring.

>>382129960
Gollum was just released so only about 3-4 years

>>382130036
>>382130118
i remember De Plater talking about it and he said something like that irrc.

>>382130272
>>382130118
>>382130036
Wait, so what is the game even about then? It can't be Sauron again that close to Fellowship

>>382126569
How retarded are you? They didn't make a cent from the Jackson films due to (((Hollywood))) accounting.

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>>382129806
Those were the days.

>>382130524
do you mean SoM or SoW?

>>382120740
That was the point, though. Tolkien wanted to make his work look like an old historical chronicle that went through several translations until he made the 'English version'. The real autism was in how dedicated he was to making everything clunky, imperfect and inconsistent in order to reflect what an actual historical document would look like. He was so anal that he refused to call pipe-weed tobacco despite almost spelling it out in the appendices, and replaced tomatoes with pickles in a later edition, because the origin of those words didn't fit in with his themes.

He probably only left Old Gaffer and his potatoes in because he couldn't have his idyllic Shire countryside if everyone had to eat turnips.

>>382130753
SoW, that's why I said "again"
SoM saved itself by being set far enough into the past to go "oh yeah this shit happened but was never touched upon"

>>382130847
I can't tell if it's ironic or just silly that only the Hobbits from the "this is literally England btw" Shire know about potatoes when they aren't even indigenous to Europe in the first place
Also, Tolkien's autism is beautiful to behold. Everyone should at least once read that RotK Appendix about names where he talks about how he tried to keep the "translations" of the made-up names from a language he also made up to be consistent with the meaning of their shortenings in that language

>>382130960
oh, i think it's about Talibrembor conquering Mordor and Celebrimbor getting crazy with power. Not much more is known. helob (or whatever the spider is called) also play a part but i dont know which. Not much more is known.

>>382115345
I never understood why people felt the game shat over the lore so terribly. I see some issues but nothing so glaringly terrible that it deserves the hate it gets, especially since Tolkien's lore was always somewhat ambivalent about most things. Anyone care to explain?

>>382119162
That was a troll you idiot.

>>382130036
SoM is just after the end of the Hobbit as the plot is kicked off by Sauron returning to Mordor after Galdadriel threw down his tower at Dol-Guldur.

>>382131268
He didn't care about how historical tomatoes were in medieval Europe, he was bothered by the American origin of the word in his old-timey epic saga. You really need to have a degree in English literature to be able to appreciate the level of madness Tolkien was on, his wording in every single part of the text was exceedingly specific to the point where he insisted on reviewing foreign translations to see if everything was done properly. It's like watching experimental brain surgery, you need to be a brain surgeon yourself to understand how this is a big deal.

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>>382117947
Lord of honor!

>>382132102
I wouldn't dare to try and comment on his use of language (I'm not even a native speaker), I just thought it was funny that the region he has confirmed as being England is the only one knowing about potatoes even though they're indigenous to South America

>>382115751
This game is criminally underrated

>>382132471
>Fingolfin
>blond

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>>382114803

Why are people hating on this game?

Its ok to make a bunch of star wars games but its NOT ok to make a lord of the rings game with existing lore that doesn't re-purpose the original characters?

Is it just because of Sauron being used for the main antag or something?

What exactly is wrong with using -existing lore- to make an original game?

>>382118884
>fat useless nerd

Tolkien fought in World War 1. In fact the basis of the Hobbit is believed by many to be a sort of coping mechanism for the ptsd he had after coming back. He lost friends he grew up with in it. He did more in his life then you did in your Doritos crusted existence faggot.

>>382132941
Nothing, they are just being autistic. Tolkien's interest was always primarily in linguistics and he took great pains in crafting the languages used in Middle Earth. It'd be a shame if they were never used to craft more stories.

>>382132941

Star Wars isn't as heavily protected nor anywhere as good as LOTR, Star Wars was already shat on with EU novels and games and now by Disney, people were adverse to it 25 years ago but now it's the norm.

They're not use existing lore, they're modifying it, and the devs are not equipped to do so being a bunch of unoriginal agenda driven faggots that they are.

>>382133024
The modern versions of LotR that come with all these letters about publishing and editing and shit as the foreword also have some really sad stories about losing friends

>>382133024
Were you so assblasted by trigger words that you didn't actually read his post before replying?

>>382132941
Lore in the games is probably better than the new movies(Star wars)

>>382131293
>helob (or whatever the spider is called)
Shelob. It's a she.

>>382133242
It really is. Even sadder when you read about how Tolkien even felt about Britain when he got home from the war. The home he knew was totally different and a horribly injured place, not the home he remembered and longed for.

Remind you of anything from the stories? Sad shit.

>>382123315
Lore isnt't shit itself, it's great for books and maybe movies.
But Lotr sucks as setting for video game.

>>382133765
i deleted the s accidently.

>>382134094
it sucked when they tried to repurpose the books//films and use LotR material directly. Middle Earth can make great games. Shadow of Mordor is very fun if sometimes repetitive.

>>382134094
No, people in marketing suck at not being genetic throwbacks. LotR takes place at the time when Sauron launches an all-out invasion on Gondor, its fiefs and all of its potential allies at once, while his spies and infiltrators stir shit in places too distant to get attacked directly. You have enough material in there for dozens of games of nearly every genre there is, but no one will greenlight it because they can't put Sword Jesus and Punished Santa on the cover.

>the only LOTR game that lets me visit the most places in Middle Earth is a fucking mmo


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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they act more like warhammer 40k orks


and im ok with that

>>382134842
And a shitty MMO at that.

>>382135223
Wouldn't really call it shitty, it's a standard mmo mechanics wise with a really nice world that makes me come back to it once in a while.

Why do you think its' shitty, anon?

>>382135584
It's an MMO

>>382135623
While I do agree mmos are shit, this is not an argument. Back it up with something instead of just repeating "it's shit".

>>382135706
It's bad

>>382135746
I'm really trying to get you to put some effort into it but it seems like you're just another drone without his own opinions. Shame.

>>382117676
I loved it, it's flawed but enjoyable. There's also that Sierra LotR game, the War of the Ring. That was a fun strategy game

>>382135821
My opinion is that it's a shitty MMO

>>382134972
>LotR but Orcs are like in Warhammer
>Black Gate opens
>There's a googolplex of orcs
>They are all riding boars
>Their armors are so thick humans can't even hit them
>A single orc gets rid of hundreds of humans
>leader cries WAAAAAAAAAGH! killing thousands from fear and driving others insane
>eagles come because can't let the heroes die
>eagles die
>dragon ex machina because need to save the plot
>orcs eat dragon
>everyone dies

>>382117039
there is literally the best and most epic strategy game set out in the war of wrath and they steer clear of it. or an witcher style rpg as hurin (style as open world-tight story)

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>>382117676
>you have to reject an elven maiden who saved your life and has been carrying you for the entire game for a random human bitch because "destiny"
>that fight with the Eye of Sauron at the top of Barad-Dur out of fucking nowhere in the end

Still, it was fun.

>>382116408
I like LotR but...
>some of the greatest books written in modern times
His books even by his own admission are a fucking chore to read, he had no knack for story telling and they're clearly just a worldbuilding sandbox for him first and foremost. They're important to the modern fantasy genre and do some things well, but they aren't that fucking good.

>>382134972
>>382136072
I'd honestly kill for a 40k game that uses the nemesis system but with orks

>>382136072
This sounds like a 12 year old 40k fan wrote it

>>382136341
Idrial didn't love Berethor, though

>>382132102
>You really need to have a degree in English literature to be able to appreciate the level of madness Tolkien was on
I believe this. I took a seminar on Tolkien this spring at uni and holy shit my professor was fucking fanatical about it. Fun class but it was a lot of reading to do in 10 weeks.

>>382135584
Might have changed in the years since I last played it, but it had a pretty bad case of power and utility disparities between classes, too much solo content that was again not working very well for certain classes, and playing for free was made pretty uncomfortable.

>>382136618
t. Morwen

Leave me alone, slut

>>382137162
>Morwen
Hurin's wife? She wasn't alive in the Third Age!

>>382117676
One of the few cases where Forrest Gumping was fun.

>>382137326
>devs couldn't even think of an original name
>she's shit in combat too

Embarrassing.

>>382137349
>Forrest Gumping
being a retard?

>>382136779
Right now every class is viable for solo content, that's why they introduced the skill trees. Angmar is not "fixed" properly for that though and pretty much everyone skips it when leveling. To be fair the game being f2p is basically just a trial, BUT if you wanted to and had enough in you to grind you can unlock almost everything with turbine points, which you can get easily with simply grinding.

>>382137326
The Third Age came out before CoH. No way the devs could have known they were taking a name from the book.

>>382137494
see>>382137691

>>382137691
I bet that's a hilarious joke, too bad I have no clue what the fuck CoH is

>>382137691
>>382137780
Shit tier bait, here have a (you).

>>382137831
Company of Heroes

>>382137831
Children of Hurin

>>382115674
I'd buy the shit out of a game called "ORC DRAMA SIMULATOR - STRONGHOLD OFFENSE EDITION"

>>382114803
>Tolkien rolling in his grave
Tolkien wouldn't get that joke.

>>382137831
Corruption of Hobbiton

>>382115751
The first one was better to be honest family. I hated how the AI just completely ignore all defences and enemy units to attack farms over and over in this one. I wish I could have the bases from 1 with the batallion sizes from 2 with straight improved AI overall, and with that War of the Ring mode from ROTWK

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>>382136072
>State Troops.
>Average citizenry of the Empire.
>Able to not only go toe to toe with orcs in melee combat, but also win.
>Greatsword's are known to cleave orcs in two.
>Now compare to LOTR humans.
>Super heroic renditions similar to warriors from Greek poems and stories.
>Somehow they wouldn't be able to take Fantasy Orcs.

YUH
OKAY SON

>>382114803
A fun game is a fun game, if you want to be a purest and have it ruin it for you, go right ahead.
Its a alternate universe/timeline done.