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XV-kun is in bed. Can we talk about the garbage combat in XV?

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XV-kun is in bed. Can we talk about the garbage combat in XV? It seriously feels incomplete. Hold dodge until a counter pops up, tap attack, and go back to holding dodge, and you win nearly every single battle.
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>>382103718
The combat is better than any other FF to date, it feels more complete than any other FF, you never have to hold anything.

Meanwhile you can win any other FF by literally just holding the input 90% of the time to do attack, then heal the other 10%
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Name a thing that doesn't feel incomplete about FFXV.
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>>382103718
XV combat is good. Stop with these bait threads.
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>>382103718
>>382103897
>XV-kun is in bed
lol
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>>382103967
The music, the combat, the characterization, the dungeons, the villain, the ending, the graphics etc.
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>>382103967
That's a fair assessment. The music, while underwhelming, doesn't feel incomplete. Just boring.
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>>382103967
Put it back in the oven.
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>>382103897
>The combat is better than any other FF to date

That's really not saying much.
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>>382104091
Careful, you might make someone post a link to that Skyrim knockoff, Hellfire.
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>>382103897
>FF1 remake
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>>382103718
I liked the combat. It felt like Kingdom Hearts but if I had to gripe, it's about how weird the magic system is. Why is it that Sora can be precise while Noct keeps blasting his buddies all willy nilly?
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>>382103897
Reminder: Holding Square and following Parry prompts is the most viable method in the game.
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>>382103897
It's better than Dirge of Cerberus, XII, and XIII. That's it. They should stick to the ATB. Persona did it, and it was a very enjoyable game.
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>>382103718
Game had very inferior combat even in its retro days, DQ blows the shit out of it. At least it tried to be different
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>>382104205
I beat the 2 hardest bosses in the main game that way. The ones over level 100.
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>>382104091
At least Valse Di Fantastica is one of the best songs in the series. Shame about the rest though. Can't say any other song in the game stood out to me though.
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>>382104154
I thought Apocalypse Aquarius was the Skyrim knockoff?
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>>382104275
To be fair, there's more than one that tried to imitate Skyrim.
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>>382104257
Inexcusable, considering they also designed the combat for KH2.
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>>382104223
>They should stick to the ATB. Persona did it,
Persona is ATB?
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>>382104091
I remember 2 fucking songs from the entire game. That gay ass song in the beginning and this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ehhoW_SmQw

For the characters I still don't know who this faggots are. Like prompto told me something on a rooftop and that gorilla guy told me to go fuck myself after my dad and waifu died. Blind guy can cook.

The dungeons are garbage, especially the underground caves.

I still know nothing about the villain and the graphics often looked like complete fucking arse. And the ending lacked any sort of punch especially because I couldn't care less about the characters who tagged along.
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>>382104371
Turn based is closer to ATB than whatever you want to call XV.
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>>382104382
The one that sticks out most to me is the gay flute that plays during sunup. I hated it so fucking much. It's tied for least favorite FF song along with the world theme of VIII.
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>>382104275
>tfw Jeremy Soule indirectly composed FFXV


He deserves more credit
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>>382104271
I like the Galdin Quay and the Camping music. They are comfy, but Somnus was the song that made me wanna play the game. I played FF13 because of that trailer for Versus.
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>>382104496
There was no song that made me want to play the game. It was the horse shit lie that it was a love letter to classic FF that made me want to play.

If that was a love letter, it was one of the worst ever.
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>>382104494
I think I need to check out Skyrim. I like them songs so I might like it.
>>382104382
I thought it was funny they actually showed flashes of his grandpa because people were like 'fucking who??' I still didn't care.
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>>382104667
>I thought it was funny they actually showed flashes of his grandpa because people were like 'fucking who??' I still didn't care.
They must have patched that in later. It took me a few minutes to figure out who died.
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Are these threads the most autistic ones in this board?
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>>382104865
They're fun if you don't take it too seriously.
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>>382104865
What is autistic about having a discussion about a game when a fanatic isn't around?
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>>382104865
XV-Kun posts in them, so yes
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>>382104865
I think the reason they are made is to slowly chip away at XV-kuns mental health to force him into sudoku. It feels like a group effort to kill some guy through the power of shitposting.
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>>382103718
>>382103897
Like clockwork
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>>382104865
Yeah. Every FFXV thread inevitably involves KH vs FFXV shitfests, and sometimes Nier gets mentioned out of nowhere. I do feel bad for actual FFXV fans, they can't discuss this shit here.
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>>382104758
Yeah, it was one of the earlier patches. If you dick around at the lighthouse, you can even find his grave nearby.
Also after Episode Prompto and the trailer for Episode Ignis, I feel like Gladiolus got off too easy. He even ended the game with a girlfriend.
>>382104963
I have to admit, that would be an interesting way to kill someone.
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>>382104902
>They're fun if you don't take it too seriously.
Every time i peek at these threads is just the same argument over and over and over again.
Never changes, it's always the same thing.
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>>382105016
Honestly, a bunch of games get discussed and compared to XV. Apparently every last one of them is absolute garbage in comparison to XV according to at least one poster.

Go ahead. Think of a game. If it isn't XV, it is hands down garbage that doesn't even deserve to exist to those people.
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>>382105016
Kek
THat's funny cause xv-kun showed up in xcx, nier, kh threads and even more all the time just to shitpost about how great XV is. You guys don't want to "discuss" it anyway and you know it.
We had one good thread that lasted 150 posts a few days ago and that was when xv-kun was actually not there
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>>382105037
>Yeah, it was one of the earlier patches. If you dick around at the lighthouse, you can even find his grave nearby.
>Also after Episode Prompto and the trailer for Episode Ignis, I feel like Gladiolus got off too easy. He even ended the game with a girlfriend.

I bought the season pass, but deleted the game after playing the Carnival once. I wasn't sinking any more time into that game.
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>>382104205
This. XV's combat is a joke
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>>382105134
Yeah, that's understandable. Also what was up with that weird error in the PSN store? Like, the Season pass didn't register and then I heard that when people bought the DLC anyway, it negated their season pass or something? It was ridiculous.
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>>382103718


>and you win nearly every single battle.

here's how to win 'nearly every single battle' in other FFs

>attack
>attack
>attack
>heal
>attack
>attack
>attack

I'm not defending XV, but faggot fanboys think that old FFs had DEEEEEP combat when it really never did.

I especially hate ATB faggots, when the best turn based gameplay came from FFX.

Also, XV has shit bosses, meanwhile KH1 gave a enjoyable boss every fucking 10 minutes. that's what I hated most.
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>>382105164
I love how the apologists say things like, "At least they tried," even they already tried and did it better than XV in the past.
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>>382103718
>Hold dodge until a counter pops up, tap attack, and go back to holding dodge
That's how I fight every Tonberry battle. They are simply too fast for me.
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>>382105218
I honestly hadn't heard anything about that. I'm not sure we should put that one on SE's shoulders, though. That sounds more like Sony's fault.
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>>382105276
The Yoda guys were fucking crazy
Most of the time in XV it just feels like your moveset and the enemies moveset don't belong in the same game
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>>382105231
>I especially hate ATB faggots, when the best turn based gameplay came from FFX.
Believe it or not, ATB was different in every game, and Square considered FFX's combat to be ATB, for whatever reason. It's literally a turn based RPG that measures speed for more than the first move, allowing you to attack more than once if you're fast enough.
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>>382105276
That's how you can cheese that level 110 samurai hunt.
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>>382105245
I like X-2 and 13's combat systems. Those were bretty good imo.
>>382105282
Yeah, I don't really blame SE for that weirdness.
>>382105351
The Tonberry Knights caught me off guard but I find them cute now.
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>>382105351
Why didn't the devs just add proper telegraphs and indicators for enemy attacks? If done right, you shouldn't need that block/parry indicator.
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>>382105245
Square wasn't produced nothing of worth for years and years of constant fuck ups but i always see people excited by the next stuff.
>nah m8, FFVII RE or the next Disney crossover cringefest will save everything
>XV and XIII and all other mediocre projects inbetween never happened lalalala
Pure Stockholm syndrome
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>>382104259
The one in the army base who shoots pew pew lasers from its hands has attacks that ignore your guard and don't give parry prompts.
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>>382105445
>I like X-2 and 13's combat systems. Those were bretty good imo.
I didn't play 13, and thought X-2 was exploitable the second you got that item that did 9999 damage when your health went yellow (just keep your health there and use trigger happy).

But even KH2 did ARPG combat better.
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>>382105463
Tabata said in an interview that he told the dev team to make them random and unpredictable because muh realism
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>>382105557
Actually, you still dodge the lasers when they are vertical. When they are horizontal, you just teleport through them with triangle. Position yourself behind the truck next to one of the buildings, and the boss can't reach you, meaning the only time you need to stop holding dodge is to warp through horizontal lasers and to counter.
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>FFbabbys who thinks his games EVER had good combat that was challenging

Play a real SMT
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>>382105016
>Every FFXV thread inevitably involves KH vs FFXV shitfests

only because one blind fanatic assumes that everyone shitting on FFXV is same random guy from Gamefaqs who defended KH while posting legitimate complaints (which the fanatic calls shitposting) about FFXV
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>>382105680
It's because they are both ARPGs developed by Square Enix.
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>>382105463

A lot of enemy encounters are gangbangs, so they probably added it for casuals to feel like they did something of value.
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>>382105568
>X-2 was exploitable the second you got that item that did 9999 damage when your health went yellow (just keep your health there and use trigger happy).
Oh the Cat Nip? They patched that in the International Version. It still does all that stuff but it also inflicts berzerk so no Trigger Happy.

I agree that the combat in KH2 feels better but FFXV felt enough like KH's combat for me to have fun.
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>>382105016
Not really, only when that one guy that always talks about launchers shows up and even then it's just xv-kun vs that guy.
People bring up Kh here and there but that's fine since there's not much you can compre XV too. One guy just always overreacts and thinks everyone is just trying to shitpost even with slgiht critcism or opinions that he doesn't like
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>>382105769
I really wish I had fun with it, but I didn't. I much preferred XCX and NieR Automata to it.
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>>382105745
>It's because they are both ARPGs developed by Square Enix.

but in this case it's apples and oranges.

>>382105778
>One guy just always overreacts and thinks everyone is just trying to shitpost even with slgiht critcism or opinions that he doesn't like

yeah. He also uses the "YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME" argument if he can't counter the argument.
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>>382105843
XCX is a game that did open world right. They really made you want to explore that world, unlike XV, with its car on rails and walled off sections of the world thanks to random fences.
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>>382105884
>but in this case it's apples and oranges.
How so? Why shouldn't we have expected a world that you wanted to explore like XCX with the combat of KH2?
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>>382105936
When did XCX get dragged into this? I never mentioned that game.
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>>382103718
unlike u autists who hate everything and prolly havent even finished the game i hate samething that ive never seen discussed

the fucking retarded ai of your allies
i mean...what the fuck
after the animals when shit gets harder those retards die every second attack

i dont even know how long the weapons quests took me because those retards were dead 90% of the time

solid 8/10 though
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>>382105972
It wasn't mentioned, but it's an open world ARPG that was in development for a decade. Why couldn't the world be interesting and the combat fun?
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>>382103718
The combat system feels inferior to nier automata and somehow I like nier's combat and dislike XV's
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I hope we have XV-kun threads forever. Do you think he'll move on to bashing FF7R when that releases?
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>>382106038
The final boss on those weapon quests took me 45 minutes. But I was level 30, and he was level 120, so there was that.

If you had any difficulty with this game, you may want to try being creative.
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Uh oh! Bazzy seems to only know music from FFXV and is making very bold, but uninformed statements!!

Help him out by introducing him to better boss-battle music!
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I don't get it, why is XV so unpopular? List what's wrong with it.
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>>382106038
They might as well not exist except for the regroup skill
Even KH party members are better since you can atually give them items and tell them what to do or not to do in combat
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>>382105898

That's because XCX was designed as an open world first, while XV was going for a road trip theme and had to have an open world to facilitate it. I'm sure it can be done properly, but SE clearly had no idea what they were doing even when Nomura was still directing.
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>>382106125
He'll probably call it shit, too, even though it's probably just going to be XV reskinned.
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>>382106050
>but it's an open world ARPG that was in development for a decade.

show me proof that XCX had a development cycle as long as FFXV's 10 years
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>>382106150
This is a good start.>>382106050
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>>382106125
He already started bashing on it basicly a week after it was announced
And already calls it garbage because of the "gameplay" trailer we got back in 2015
Yet noone is allowed to talk about early gameplay or even duscae when it comes to XV
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>>382106125
No Final Fantasy or Open World Action RPG will be safe from his autism in the future.
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>>382106160
>That's because XCX was designed as an open world first
So was XV. It was literally described as a love letter to the classic, open world Final Fantasy's.
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>>382105884
I feel like you should only use that argument when people push their crappy fanfiction as 'leaks'.
>>382106050
It was but then they scrapped most of the game and rebuilt it. The version of FFXV that we have now was in development for about 4 years. Not that it's a valid excuse for the game's issues.
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>>382106090
Lmfao don't pretend Nier Automata combat isn't as trash as XV. That shit was just as braindead
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>>382106164
>show me proof that XCX had a development cycle as long as FFXV's 10 years
I didn't mean to make that claim. I don't know that development schedule, but the point I intended to make was that XCX still did the open world much better than XV, a game that was in development for a decade.
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>>382106140
>Help him out by introducing him to better boss-battle music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMTvj9L2lEI
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>>382106239
I'd argue that it's still in development
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>>382106253
>posts a webm of someone using spatial awareness, navigating through a flurry of bullets

>braindead
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>>382106239
>It was but then they scrapped most of the game and rebuilt it
That isn't a viable excuse as to why they released a game in development for a decade that did open world better than other games on more limited hardware, and did ARPG combat worse than one of their own IPs that came out in December of 2005.
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>>382106313
>I'd argue that it's still in development

considering all the patches and shit that should of been in on day 1 and this OFFICIAL survey, is XV the first Early Access AAA game?
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>>382106326
I'm not positive, but I think he's talking about the auto dodge thing that was available on the easiest mode. Which is a valid criticism, but at least there is an option to make it tougher, unlike FFXV.
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>>382106326
You mean a guy mashing the dodge button? Don't act like he was manually dodging each attack.
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>>382106223

>Open world

What, FF1 and 2? Because everything else aside from half of FF6 was pretty much on rails.
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>>382103718
HOW DARE YOU
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>>382106481
FF 7, 8, 9, and 12 were also open world, although 12 didn't give you access to the entire planet.
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>>382106447
No on normal and hard difficulties just mashing the dodge button gets you out of danger and there is no limits for spam. XV may have been easy as fuck but atleast the game doesn't force me to fight the same tincans for 40-50 hours
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>>382106313
Heh, that's a pretty solid claim. I mean, I love the game but it felt like it was initially unfocused. At least they're working on it.
>>382106380
I suppose not but the only people who could give us answers is Squeenix themselves as to why things turned out the way they did
>>382106548
I know 7 at least had a much better airship than the Regalia Type-F. I hate that thing. At least when you drive out of bounds with the Type-D it's not an instant game over. Then again, the fact that there are any boundaries at all is hella lame.
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>>382106549
>XV may have been easy as fuck but atleast the game doesn't force me to fight the same tincans for 40-50 hours

instead you fight the same imperial pricks for 40-50 hours
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>>382106253
I admit that it's not the best combat there is, but it's not full of quick time events and you don't have to spam the same move over and over again to do more damage
You can customize the character with chips so that you don't have to rely on endlessly dodging
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ive been holding off on getting this for so long because it looks like unfinished garbage. i assumed the bants and combat at least might make it worth 30 bucks a long with the dlc but im unsure
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>>382106845
Wait until all the updates are out, if that will ever happen is the question. If you waited this long you might as well wait a bit longer
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>>382106845
The "bantz" are awful. I wish they never talked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP2zsTPty90
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>>382106845
yeah, wait until a complete edition comes out
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>characters have a converesation about the recent events in the story
>conversation gets interrupted mid-sentence by IMPERIALS! ABOVE US!
>conversation doesn't resume after battle
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Watching old vXIII trailers and seeing all the stereotypical grimdark anime edgy fanfiction in full force makes me wonder what people saw in this garbage to begin with, maybe if watched the trailers back in the mid 00s maybe it would make more sense.
Now all it changed is that the game looks brighter but everyone still has their funeral attire, which is extra hilarious.
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>>382106907
>>382106940
>>382106950
the only thing im worried about is they never update the actual game combat system since apparently its so bad. either way i guess ill just play through it for the story when the complete editions out
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>>382105037
>I feel like Gladiolus got off too easy. He even ended the game with a girlfriend.
I heard that that was really just a NA thing. But besides that, we really don't see the aftermath of what happened. I like to think that there is a lot of unresolved feelings on the matter from all 3 of them.
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>>382107116
>stereotypical grimdark anime edgy fanfiction in full force
That's why I got into it. Though it is funny that at some point in the game one of the NPCs comments that they look creepy.
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>>382104091
>>382104382
the ost is fuckin quality you plebs
https://youtu.be/khsQ0h1WKbo
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Is anyone else tired of that stupid fucking laugh Gladio does in the Off-Road Regalia?

>go over a rock
>"Hehuh!"
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>>382106660
>I mean, I love the game but it felt like it was initially unfocused. At least they're working on it.
There is where I'm at. I did like FFXV but I'm aware there are very obvious flaws.
>>382107116
I think that Insomnia in general has a pretty dark feel ignoring the 10 years of Darkness and talking purely aesthetics. But then again you have some bright very Japan looking parts of it in Brotherhood.
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>>382103718
>Hold dodge until a counter pops up, tap attack, and go back to holding dodge, and you win nearly every single battle.
Sounds kinda my game. Should I buy it?
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>>382107434
I think they didn't enough different voice clips for in general. Within 2 minutes they were repeating dialogue.
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Shitty gameplay aside, let's talk about the "plot". Anybody who still defends Tabata at this point is an absolute hack. I remember people actually believing that he wouldn't end the game in his usual overly melodramatic kill fucking everyone ending before the game came out.

The ONLY two good things about this game are Ardyn and Aranea. Shame they were wasted on this clusterfuck of a game.
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>>382103718
Why didn't they just go whole hog and make it a character action game?
I think if they just added a heavy attack, in addition to a light attack, and kept the warp strikes and dodging, it would have made the combat significantly more interesting
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>>382106723
>instead you fight the same imperial pricks for 40-50 hours

You and i both know they weren't the only fucks around, there were dozens types if beasts and bosses. Nier on the 3rd playthrough just kept rehashing the spiderboss since they clearly ran out of budget. Heck they had the balls to sell dlc that rehashed a main game boss
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>>382107478
Wait till it is complete.
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>>382107636
I think that Episode Prompto actually had better writing than the main game.
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>>382107636
>Aranea
Good taste.
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>>382106735
Spamming dodge is just the most viable thing in Automata like it is in XV.
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>>382103718
The holding aspect isn't the wrost thing about it.
The worst thing is that it doesn't really know what it tries to be.

It doesn't have responsiveness, fluidity, depth and freedom of proper action games while also not having any variety, strategy or building aspect of RPGs.

It's really similiar to Dragon's Dogma but better in some aspects and worse in others.

On a side note, still can't comprehend how they managed to make Episode Prompto so well directed in terms of story cutscenes,
pacing and characterisation while the main game is a slog in these departments
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>>382107849
Tabata wasn't the director
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>>382107793
>Spamming dodge is just the most viable thing in Automata
How are you going to attack if you spam dodge?

In XV, parrying literally does more damage than standard gameplay
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>>382107965
I know but it's the same guy who directed Episode Gladio and it was shit too.
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>>382107971
>spam dodge until you're out of danger
>attack for a bit until it's time to evade
>repeat

Don't know why you're trying to make it sound hard
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>>382108074
I thought Episode Gladio was fine in terms of cutscene direction especially towards the end. However, I think it was flat everywhere else.
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>>382105218
Listen, you don't need "buy" the episode. Just download the patch and go play the DLC.
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>>382107752
I think it also had a different director, ironically
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>>382103718
Combat in itself is at least functional for the majority of the time
What I really hate is the camera and targetting system.

>set camera as middle
>good for humanoid enemies, pans out away too much for bigger ones

>set camera as close
>good for big enemies, too close for humanoid ones

Why can't they just allow to adjust it manually like in Automata? Same with the HUD elements, ffs.
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>>382108178
Yeah, I know. I figured that out. It was just an odd problem that happened. I just remember some people buying the episode anyway and it made things all jank.
>>382107753
Aranea is so cool. I wish she could be my ringtone.
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>>382107665
None of the enemies in XV are fun to fight, outside of Iron Giant, because it's the only one they programmed to behave like a an actual videogame enemy. NieR has pretty good enemy gameplay variety, and they are sure as hell much more fun to fight and feel in tune with the gameplay. The enemies in XV don't even feel like they're in the right game and feel completely out of tune with Noctis playstyle.

>just kept rehashing the spiderboss
Well, I won't argue that there was obviously a deficiency in budget, there's a lore reason for why you fight the -Shi models at the end.
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>>382108418
As soon I as I saw that I backed out and said fuck no. Of course it got fixed hours later but that shit was just ridiculous.
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>>382108118
You realize that's not a viable strategy at all right? You're spending more time dodging than attacking. That method would unnecessarily prolong a fight that could end significantly quicker. It's all about efficiency, and that method is not efficient.
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>Mfw going from Nier Automata to Dream Drop Distance HD
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>>382108502
Even Duscae felt better than the final game in those aspects. The small goblins and the snakelady at night were actually fun to fight even multiple of them because they didn't just attack non stop.
I was so excited for the Aranea bossfight but that one and the Ravus bossfights were worse than some bossfights from the KH handheld games, they literally don't give a shit about your shits at all, they're just sponges that do random attacks when they feel like it
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this game is gay
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Turn based combat is for autistic people in 2017. The combat of XV is better than any other FF. It will be even better when you got a full team of player having different controls as the main party with online
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>>382109075
>The combat of XV is better than any other FF
And it's still bad. Yeah can't wait for multiplayer in 2030
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>>382109075
A weak attempt at imitation.
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>>382109123
Well if you find this bad than FF has been bad for all these years.


>>382109131
Prove me wrong nigger. Turn based combat is boring and cheap while you can you know.. actually fight in FFxv
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>>382108502
>NieR has pretty good enemy gameplay variety

No it doesn't, like the same 10 enemies in the game and then the others are recycled versions of them just mildly gimped differently with a different paint coat since they didn't have enough budget to design different ones.

I don't give a fuck about what you find fun, i preferred the old nier and even drakengard in the sense hitting metallic enemies is not satisfying at all but that don't matter. I'm just saying shit is in excusable for an arpg to have such low enemy variety
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>>382109205
>FF has been bad for all these years
In terms of combat? Yes, FF was never anything in terms of combat and XV doesn't get it right either. X-2 and LR at least tried a bit harder than others, but the games themself were shit
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>>382103718
>XV-kun is in bed
HAHAHAHAH
How do you think Ignis would play like considering Gladio going more beat em up brawler?
>>382108807
Why was KH DDD so bad man? It's almost unfathomable comparing it to other games in the series except days
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>>382109205
You being a poor imitation has nothing to do with opinions on gameplay and that anon didn't say anything to do with that.
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>>382109373
>How do you think Ignis would play like considering Gladio going more beat em up brawler?
I'd say he be more tactical with I guess some flexibility and gymnastics. He does all kinds of flips and shit in normal gameplay.

I'm itching to see how he goes blind.
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>>382108598
Not its viable in the sense there is less risk and a high success rate, you speak of time management but the only way you're having problems with time in a fight is if you aren't upgrading weapons and pods. You can fucking shoot whatever pod you have while dodging bruh, shit is easy and i don't know why you're trying to damage control it saying "there's better methods i swear" like i didn't beat the game using the shit i said. Not my fault i was hardly ever pushed to try differently.
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>>382109534
Sense based Bamham?
Wonder if spells will be more of a thing with him.
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>>382109328
Well I can live with that. Thanks for the explanation. I think this is the best combat because they actually tried and gave the monsters movesets as well instead of simple pokemon turn based bullshit.

>>382109428
>spewing bullshit the post
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>>382109638
>he can't handle the truth
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>>382109689
The truth is that XV has superior combat to any other FF boi
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>>382103967
The cooking
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>>382109797
Again, you suck at imitation.
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>>382109205
>someone makes an ARPG worse than turn based
Might as well wonder how you fuck up this bad.
granted if you wanted a good turn based game in this day and age (or even prior if WRPGs are counted) you wouldn't go to FF anyway.
>>382109638
>best combat because it tried
Attempts are great but if it's shit in execution it doesn't matter in the long run.
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>>382109879
Again you suck at word choice. You clearly don't known what you're saying
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>>382103967
The fishing minigame.
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>>382109959
Enlighten me, what do you think they're trying to say?
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>>382109373
Idk man. I have the worst buyer's remorse right now. Did Nomura direct this game? Can't believe how bad the story and writing is. And the gameplay is so goddamn wonky and unpolished. At least A Fragmentary Passage was decent I guess
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>>382103897
>tfw XV-kun never sleeps
H-how does he d-do it?
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>>382103897
>XV-kun is in bed
Damn. I guess not. How does he find these threads so fast?
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>>382109315
>just mildly gimped differently
Why are you downplaying this as if it doesn't add gameplay variety? A Medium Biped with a shield acts entirely differently than a cannon equipped Medium Biped. It just sounds like you don't like the robot enemy designs, which is entirely a you problem, but it doesn't hamper gameplay variety in any way.

>i preferred the old nier and even drakengard
>implying those were ever satisfying
How ironic. There was nothing ever satisfying about wacking shades, the armored ones alleviated this but to a low extent. How are machines flying off and exploding not satisfying? You literally feel like a combat android.

>low enemy variety
You're literally complaining about aesthetics. There is more than enough gameplay variety found with enemies.
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>>382109797
No that's not the truth, that's bullshit and you now why?

Because whoever likes turn based games, liked the combat in past FF's.

But people who like Action rpgs and action gameplay, all agree that FFXV has the worst combat system in any modern ARPG ever. It's shit, it's worse than fucking type-0.

It's flash and no substance and it's not even fun.

Tabata is shit, xv-kun is shit and you are shit too.
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>>382110608
he's the one that makes them. He argues with himself.
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I actually enjoyed the combat for what it was. My main problems with it though are
>Magic is just stupid grenades
>Camera when fighting in a zone with bushes
>Flying enemies (especially the bees)
>The amount of enemies that knock you over non stop (especially in end game)
>Not being able to body lvl 38 goblins when i'm lvl 99 because 90% of the game is sponges
>Lack of challenge overall (though it is FF)

>>382103967
The dungeons felt overdone desu
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So does Episode Prompto confirm that Diamond Weapon (exact design from FFVII) was more than just a nod and in fact the key component of the invasion of Insomnia?

Are Noctis and Luna the Lifestream? Is Insomnia Midgar? IS THIS THE PAST OF FFVII? IS WHITE MATERIA FROM HIS RING?
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>>382110990
shut up please
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>>382110990
You read too much into it.
It's like saying all FFs share universe because Ifrit is called Ifrit in every game.
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>>382110990
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>>382110682
>Why are you downplaying this as if it doesn't add gameplay variety? A Medium Biped with a shield acts entirely differently than a cannon equipped Medium Biped.
Or like the other armed machines of route C, the spear ones attack much faster than any other machines, for example. Wish they would have used the status ailments much more, though.
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>>382110990
First question, yeah, Diamond Weapon the Daemon is refered to in the report as the one in Kingsglaive which destroyed the capital.
Second question, are you alright in the head there, buddy? No.
Happy to help.
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>>382103897
>Make pure phys party
>Grind for levels and armor so you never need healing
>Complain the game is too easy
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>>382104963
Shame that if it ever did happen, we wouldn't know unless he somehow made the news.
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>>382111467
https://youtu.be/D9pkvjYTkD8?t=36m35s
Found the log
They have to cut the bull and make it a boss in game already.
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>>382109373
>>382110458
...I liked it.
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>>382112070
They won't, is basically impossible because of the shitty combat in this game. You just need to see the biggest bosses like Titan or the Tortoise to see that it would play like fine crap.
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>>382103718
All they had to do was copy KH2. The team that made it was even working on XV ffs.
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>>382113382
Agreed. Damned shame that they couldn't be assed.
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>>382112738
What did you like about it? I'm not against a difference of opinion, but what about it was good, or at least fun, for you?
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>>382113382
They probably bailed with Nomura and Nojima

It feels completely like a Tabata game in the same vein as Crisis Core and Type-0
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>>382114241
I enjoyed the combat of Crisis Core more than XV. Can't speak to Type-0, as I have no interest in playing it.

My interest in the FF series is literally zero right now. If they ever come back, it will be through word of mouth, not through the lies they constantly spout.
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>>382113382
>The team that made it was even working on XV ffs.
Not when it was turned into XV, a completely different game with completely different devs. The story writer was a no-name fujoshi for example.
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>Get excited for the game every since it's announcement as VS XIII
>Check the internet for news about it's development regularly for years
>Finally gets a release date, but then gets delayed
>"No matter atleast it will come out"
>Finally get my hands on it
>Combat is fun but got boring really fast
>Story was a complete mess after Altissia
>Chapter 13
>Finish the game and have no more desire to play it again
Dammit, I enjoyed the game but I was really disappointed with it. Atleast Noctis' relationship with his bros was well done and believable and the ending did tug on my heart strings a bit. Damn I really wanted to love the game and play it longer, but I just can't
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>>382114330
Crisis Core was a goddamn boring slot machine simulator, which i read it was all Nomura projecting his gambling addiction.
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XV-Kun, as someone who really enjoys XV, do you think it has flaws, or do you think it's perfect? I genuinely can't tell.
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Lets face the reality

First 1/3 of XV is a road trip simulator, aka world's shittiest and underdeveloped open world game
Second 1/3 of XV is a train riding through skyboxes
Final 1/3 of XV is a hallway walking simulator in generic looking warehouses
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>>382114867
>nomura
wut, he wasn't the director nor was he in charge of gameplay
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>>382110608
Because he makes them, then samefags until bump limit. The guy is literally insane.
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>>382114867
I never said I enjoyed Crisis Core. I just said I enjoyed it more than XV. Kind of how I think I would prefer eating shit that has peanuts in it than drinking diarrhea - it isn't that either sounds particularly appetizing, but one definitely sounds worse than the other.
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>>382114930
>Second 1/3 of XV is a train riding through skyboxes
If only. That was like 20 minutes
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>>382114962
>explains Kitase. "Both I and Mr Nomura are very enthusiastic about pachinko, and we were discussing if there was any element of it that we could put into the game." And thus the DMW system was born
http://www.ign.com/articles/2008/04/28/crisis-core-final-fantasy-vii-uk-interview?page=2
Guess he was.
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>>382115139
it felt like 200 minutes
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>>382114867
>>382115189
The original FFVII had slot reels for both Tifa and Cait Sith. The fault is on the team for failing at the implementation of the idea. The DMW is also not the only terrible part of the game.
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>>382115189
>kitase and nomura came up with it
huh
>we were discussing if there was any element of it that we could put into the game.
>make it integral to the combat
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>>382115302
He but it was quick and didn't fill the screen just put some random images in or cutscenes out of nowhere
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>>382115210
That would sadly be only about 15% of the game.
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>>382115476
That's why I'm saying it's the fault of the team that designed such a shitty system and not Nomura for the idea. Whether something is good in a video game is more reliant on the implementation.
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>>382105040
>Never changes, it's always the same thing.
This applies to any thread
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>>382103718
The combat is great. fuck off with these threads.
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>>382117185
Explain how his assessment of the combat is wrong.
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I really hope Square won't use this engine again. Just look at this, it looks like utter shit.
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>>382117185
Combat is terrible, fuck off yourself
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>>382104205
>>382105164
That is the least viable method in the game.

>>382104223
It's better than all of them. They should not stick to ATB and Persona is not ATB, do you even know what ATB is? P5 is so much worse than XV it's fucking hilarious, you can just options your way through any fight in P5.
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>>382117256
Pretty sure its getting used for the remake of 7.
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>>382104091
>>382104154
You have such shit taste it's outstanding.

>>382104382
I remember ever song from the game because the OST is full of memorable tracks, all this shows me is you're a fuck who is full of shit, the dungeons are easily among the best in FF, the characters feel more human than any other FF does/

>I still know nothing about the villain
> And the ending lacked any sort of punch
Yeah you are really full of fucking shit and being as contrarian as possible. I doubt you even played it, probably just looking for what people constantly praise the game for and saying the opposite so you can be an edgy contrarian cunt. Fuck off.
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Oh boy here we go
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>>382117319
>That is the least viable method in the game.
It let me beat that Level 110 Samurai when I was level 30. It's totally viable.
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>>382117501
It's funny, he came back, reset his IP, and is still ban evading
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>>382104865
Just because of the people/person samefagging desperately trying to shit on the game. It's ruined XV threads because Nomura fanboys are cancer.
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>>382117482
Looks like XV-kun is awake. Nobody else responds from the top of the thread to the bottom like this. Seriously, when does the dude sleep?
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>>382117459
No, they are using the Unreal Engine 4â„¢
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>>382117613
>He says as he's currently ban evading
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>>382105090
Apparently every game in existence is better than XV according to fucks like you and then you seriously try to defend when someone says some random chucklefuck game on the NES is better.

>>382105016
KH/Nomura fags are the ones who always start these threads trying to shit on XV, they are the ones who always start these shitposts in XV, then when they start falling back onto Nier because they think that's safe they are surprised when they get countered on that front too, even though I like nier I'm not delusional enough to ignore all the far superior things in XV compared to it, while those KH drones are.
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How soon before a "complete" version of this comes out? 2019?
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>>382117673
>>382117613
See what i mean, it's the same autistic back and forth.
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>>382105114
No, I've only ever shown up in threads for those when people were already trying to shit on XV, you are the fuck who always then goes on to defend shitposters and acts like there is no shitposting against XV. You're fucking blind and insane, and then you try to call people like me who defend XV with facts as somehow being insane because you literally have no fucking argument and you get proven wrong in every single thread you ever post in.
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>>382104431
Then say turn based and not atb, you dingus
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>>382117818
Actually, in the last game, when challenged I thought of a worse ARPG. It's called Lagoon. It's a little worse than XV, but it didn't have brand recognition or graphics to save it.
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>>382117256
Remember this awesome scene of Verstael from the E3 '13 trailer? I thought he was going to be a really memorable villain, and know I look at this and is just depressing. Depressing as fuck.
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>>382117918
Well, we made it to 200. That isn't bad.
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>no u
>no u
>already better than
>insults
>webm/comparison image spam until bump limit
Welp it was good while it lasted
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>>382105351
Seriously fuck off with this cherrypicked webm that only shows how shit at the game you are, there are shields, there are warpstrikes, there are magic, stop being a fucking shit and learn how to play the game.

>>382105463
They did, stop falling for his bullshit lies. Stuff like this is very clearly telegraphed and doesn't rely on a prompt telling you when to do something because you're supposed to do it manually yourself. those parry prompts only show up on a select few attacks an enemy does because it's specifically about that parry move, while their other attacks they do which are clearly telegraphed has you easily able to block or dodge them and manage to stagger them too without the need of an indicator.

>>382105576
Except he was only talking about wild animal monsters, and even then they still have telegraphed attacks.
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>>382118169
>the irony
>not an argument
>nomuradrone
>cunt
>kill yourself
He really is too predictable. He'll probably respond to these posts and cry too
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>>382118282
Not an argument
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>>382118282
>Seriously fuck off with this cherrypicked webm that only shows how shit at the game you are, there are shields, there are warpstrikes, there are magic, stop being a fucking shit and learn how to play the game.
>"Play how I tell you to or you're playing the game wrong! It doesn't matter if you can still beat them, it's WRONG!"
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>>382118036
Remember when the other blondie was supposed to be a big figure and appeared a lot then come the rebranded 2013 trailer and her only appearance is her face right in the end?
It's foreshadowing.
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>>382105245
I love how shitposters pretend XV is somehow bad then go and defend older FFs for the very things they complain about XV doing.

>>382105506
XV is their best game in well over 18 years.

>>382105680
>who defended KH while posting legitimate complaints
Holy fuck you could not be any more fucking transparent, none of his complaints are valid, and the only valid complaint against XVs system is you can abuse items. Everything else he has been completely fucking exposed and proven wrong about, lying out his ass and having no clue how the system works, and I see you're either the apologist fuck pretending XV is somehow bad too or you are him, I see your webm posted frequently in XV threads whenever he just "happens" to be posting.
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>>382118351
I wonder what would happen if literally nobody responded to him. Would he keep making replies, or would he give up?
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>>382118429
Wrong
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>>382118282
>Seriously fuck off with this cherrypicked webm that only shows how shit at the game you are, there are shields, there are warpstrikes, there are magic, stop being a fucking shit and learn how to play the game.
I did, that's why i mostly used warp strike, counters and regroup or just nuke shit with magic.
Just using airsteps or switching weapons al lthe time randomly for no reason like you always do in your webms or some shitheads on YT is not "how to play". They just try to make it look deeper than it is
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>>382118516
He literally doesn't care, he thinks the world is just about him
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>>382105884
When you say shit that is blatantly false and not at all how something works in XV then yes I'm going to accuse you of not having played the game, even if you post some fucking trophy screenshot that doesn't mean shit to me, it only further proves how much of a dumb fucking retard you are when your posts are full of shit and blatant lies despite you being someone who played XV should already know that you are wrong.

>>382105898
No it did not, XCX is emptier than XV with less to do, worse combat, barely even has a story, no characters worth a fuck, sawano's worst OST. Fuck off to an XCX thread if you want to shill that shit.

>with its car on rails
Literlaly not a fucking argument anymore, driving off road in XV is more fun than anything in XCX.
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>>382105351
>The Yoda guys
Jesus fucking christ
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>>382118516
He would still respond to everyone even if everyone ignored him. He has nothing else going on in his life so he'll just keep posting
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>>382103897
>overlevelled characters
Not an argument.

>>382118429
>XV is their best game in well over 18 years.
Fuck off.
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>>382118282
Every time I see this webm, all I can think is, "Boy, the physics for this game are absolute garbage."

It hits the shield and crushes the pavement without the shield touching the pavement? The human body is not more durable than fucking concrete.
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>>382106050
XCXs world isn't interesting, fuck off you retarded XCX shill, it's empty as fuck with nothing but set dressing.
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>>382118516
i fear every post in this thread is him samefaggin'...
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>>382118657
tbqh
They're literally SW Ep3 Yoda
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>>382118792
Nah. He waited too long to start defending the game.
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I hope Episode Ignis incorporates a flash forward to the world of ruin where we can play as Punished Daredevil Ignis
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>>382118767
fuck off xv shill Dx
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>>382118516
He's going to keep replying until there wouldn't be a single negative comment ever again, and if there won't be any negative comment the next target would be the people who don't think it's the best game ever.
Never underestimate the autism of a true fanboy crusader.
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>>382118962
I've never experienced one that's as bad as him. Not even the "Sonic doesn't have blue arms," guy.
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>>382118878
Is Ignis the Cyclops of the team?
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>>382103967
the pause menu is pretty good
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>>382119091
Are Cyclops blind? Ignis is blind.
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>>382118962
I'm honestly afraid he'll go full randy stair one day
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>>382106140
That's true though. Your denial is fucking hilarious.
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Tell me about XV-kun, why does he shill so hard?
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>>382119138
>Everybody has a costume option.
>Completely irrelevant until endgame on release.
It's incomplete.
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>biggest xv "fan" shows up
>thread goes to shit
Everytime
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>>382119152
No I mean cyclops as in Scott Summers
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>>382106150
It's not, in fact there is only two faggots in this thread even trying to shit on the game and they keep samefagging.
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>>382106160
XV was open world from the beginning too, the way Nomura described the open world is the same exact way Tabata described it, in that it is not a fully open world but still technically is one.
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>>382119237
I'm sure only two people on this planet don't really like it, i'm sure xv-kun.
Why is there always just black and white in your world, it's either dude this game is almost perfect 9.9/10 or dude it's the worst shit ever.
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>>382119091
Most definitely
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>>382119237
>only two
>67 other posters
lol
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>>382106326
That is just a dodge that automatically moves her when you mash dodge, he isn't physically moving her.
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>>382119195
too much of his identity as a human being is ffxv
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>>382103718
Didn't you have this thread yesterday, the day before and every single day of this year so far?
Not sure what's left to discuss, you have to let things go at some point?
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>>382106845
It's the only FF with good bantz.

>>382106940
>Implying that isn't showing more character than any other "banter" you get in any other FF
Just stop.
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>>382107636
How about no, the plot is easily one of the best FF has had and Noctis dying is not even the same thing as Zack dying which we already knew, and Class 0 dying in one ending but living in the other ending, with there being a lean on the one where they all live being actually the real canon ending. Noctis's death was a self sacrifice, and the party in BC didn't die either. All the characters in the game were good, and ones like Aranea and Ardyn are two of the best FF characters ever.
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>>382107971
>In XV, parrying literally does more damage than standard gameplay
No it doesn't.
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>>382108074
Episode Gladio was good, while Episode Prompto is just better.
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>>382119416
Obviously they're all reseting their IPs :^)
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>>382119417
It's a feature of the easier difficulty, though.
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>>382108502
>None of the enemies in XV are fun to fight
But that's wrong, imperial soldiers, goblins, sabertusks, iron giants and other daemons etc

>NieR has pretty good enemy gameplay variety,
Almost everything is just a slightly different reskin version of a thing you saw earlier. XV actually has true enemy variety that are fun to fight, and if you're not learning the actual full intricacies of the system then just stop fucking posting with your cherrypicked bullshit.
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Why can't xv-kun accept more than one good game?
He never goes "yeah this game/ff does this well but xv does it better etc."
He always goes "no that other game is already shit in every aspect everything is shit except for xv it does everything better"
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>>382109075
True.
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>>382109205
Turn based kiddies don't know anything about combat, and so they lash out at XV because it's the first FF that actually feels like combat.
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>>382109797
Again this.
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>>382119661
>the plot is easily one of the best FF has had
Now this is some next level delusion. Is it really that hard to take Tabata's dick out of your mouth? Literally everybody except you shits on XV's plot. It was bad, that's not even up for debate.
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>>382110990
Tabata recently hinted that they may put diamond weapon in the game as a boss after people asked him about the cerberus they showed in the gdc footage.
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>>382119853
if ffxv doesn't have the biggest penis then there's no point in living
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>>382113382
XV is better than KH2.
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>>382119853
This guy really reminds me of /tv/'s Abatap and his Avatar obsession.
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>>382114930
Let's face the reality. You're a shitter who hasn't even played the game and you just keep resposting your same old cherry picked webms trying to shit on the graphics of the game despite it being the best looking JRPG ever. https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/1481863738449.webm/
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>>382119915
>>382119995
>shit on every post that says even the slightest bad thing about xv
>"this ;D haha" to every post that shits on everything except for xv
Man the xv fanbase is so fucked. I'm almost afraid to say that i liked the game overall but hated some parts of it
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>>382117256
It looks good, not sure what the fuck you're on about. That ep Ignis teaser looked almost CG like.
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>>382117261
Combat is great, stop embarrassing yourself.

>>382117459
It's not, 7R doesn't look anywhere as good as XV since it's using UE4.
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Noone here even played the game except for xv-kun
He's the only one on /v/ who played it obviously. You're all just thundercunt liars shitpost defenders
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>>382120235
He really is too obvious
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>>382117962
See what I mean? You pull this desperate shit, do you think you're being clever? Do you think you're being funny? No you're just being a pedantic fuck who has no clue what the fuck you are talking about and is just desperate to get a rise out of people.
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>>382118036
But Verstael was great in ep Prompto and he's even more fucked up of a mad scientist than Hojo is.
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>>382119853
He has since long passed the criteria for mental illness.

Remember, even mental people are anonymous.
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>>382118169
>This thread with endless shitposts against XV was good guys but now we can't shitpost anymore because one of the guys defending XV just came in here?
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>>382120595
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>>382118351
Stop shitposting.

>>382118410
So you're defending a shitposter? Why? What do you gain from doing that?

>>382118516
What's sad is that you think you're making some kind of point by talking about me out in the open here despite the fact you're ignoring how I've proven you wrong and people wrong in this thread the entire time, and you cant' deal with it so you just ignore it instead.
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Man FFXV really needs a docu like the XIV one
At least Yoshida actualyl talks about how Square fucked up back then and that higher ups ruined shit etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0yQKI7Yw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoOI5R-6u8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONT6fxiu9cw
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>>382120762
no u
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>>382118543
Stop shitposting.

>>382118551
No you didn't, you posted a webm of you playing like shit doing only parries because you're a fucking idiot that doesn't know how shields work, how magic works, how warpstrikes work etc. Stop fucking acting like the whole game is your bullshit little webm of you playing like shit doing nothing but counter parries against tonberries in a menace dungeon.

>>382118759
You mean every time you see it you are impressed but realize you must shitpost because you're a shit who is commited to shitting on the game so you pull shit out of your ass to make petty complaints that no one gives a fuck about and don't even actually reflect what's happening. Like I've seen you make this same fucking post before and you were already pointed out that it is just a fucking visual effect and the shields have magic properties that protect Noctis regardless.
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>>382118698
Being level 99 or level 50 it wouldn't matter, the boss only dealt 300 damage.

And XV is the best FF in well over 18 years.

>>382118878
I wonder who's going to team up with him, most people are guessing Ravus, but it could also be something from left field like Gentiana or even Umbra/Pryna.
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>>382120960
Then tell me how i was supposed to handle that tonberry group.
Just nuke them all with magic in a second?
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>>382119216
>shitposters shit up XV thread
>fan shows up calling them out
>oh no our shitposts!?
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>>382120838
>Man FFXV really needs a docu like the XIV one
No one will ever talk about what happened during versus/xv's development. The fact that the leaker from may of last year told us how fucked the game was a miracle itself
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>>382121084
Fuck off already or make up your mind. Either ignore posts you don't like and try to reply like a normal person to posts you want or don't. Don't bait shitposts and try to have a disucssion in the same post
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>>382120527
He is in only one scene (because you get the rest of his story in notes and audiotapes), that like usual in this game is poorly made, and poorly directed, later his mind ended up in a giant worm that you defeat in a shitty torrent section.

Verstael is yet another case of a great design wasted in this fucking game. Right next to Aranea, Cor, Ardyn, Ravus, Old Noctis and some others.
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>>382119416
Maybe you missed the part where I said they keep samefagging.

>>382119367
And somehow I'm the only one on the planet that likes XV? Is this seriously the narrative you're going to cling to now?

Why are you so fucking triggered when people call out people who spout shit against the game? As if you aren't allowed to call out people for being wrong in reasoning for their criticisms?
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>>382120264
>poor resolution
>shitty textures

Sure, it looks great LMAO.
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>>382118516
That's what /vg/ does and it works wonders. But /v/ isn't that smart.
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>>382121305
>keep samefagging.
I'm sure you can prove 67 posters are really just two people
Go on, do it
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>>382119853
>Why can't xv-kun accept more than one good game?
But i've said many times I like nier automata? Why can't you accept that you're allowed to defend XV from people who endlessly shitpost the same fucking bullshit against the game every thread?
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>>382105016
I don't feel bad for actual XV-fags because XV is trash anyway. It'd be different if it was actually a good game and it's fans didn't have pleb taste.
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>>382121237
explain how it was poorly made, directed etc
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>>382120838
YoshiP is a cool dude, he really cares a lot about FFXIV and FF in general and the fans
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>>382120235
So I'm not allowed to call out shitposters desperately shitting on XV and agree with people who praise XV now?

If anyone here is fucked it's you for now trying to complain about me agreeing with people praising the game, you seem triggered.

> but hated some parts of it
I don't care if you did, but when people then start giving me reasons for "oh I hate x because y thing happened and z blah blah", but when that doesn't line up with reality I call them out on that, then when they double down on that shit they get defensive, and then it just snowballs into shitposting.

Oh and by the way don't even try to pretend that I don't acknowledge the flaws the game has I'm sick of fucks that keep pretending as if I ignore flaws the game has or have never listed them, then beg me to go and list every flaw every fucking time I point this out.
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>>382121457
Not that anon, but a lot of cutscenes in XV looks kinda amateurish. But I don't think that is because of poor direction, but because of the engine, the animations, and the lack of power of the current consoles.
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>>382107116
The appeal of Versus to me was that it wasn't going to be some happy shallow power of friendship shonenshit that XV turned out to be. Everyone dying at the end isn't deep or dark, it's just dumb.
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>>382121135
I just fucking did, make use of shields, warpstrike, magic, attack combos. Like holy shit man.
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>>382121234
>you aren't allowed to call people out and discuss the game at the same time?
Why? Who put you in charge of these threads?
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>>382113770
Everything, really. It's more like I didn't dislike the things people disliked.
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>>382121728
You're batshit crazy.
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>>382121445
its because of the name Final Fantasy, i've also seen XIII praising and its main cast when the only one of note is the black guy whose afro doubles as a choccobo nest.
Don't lose hope though the action based episodic FFVII is coming and square surely won't fuck up this time aswell right?
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>>382107636
Shame all the character designs and ideas were wasted on this shit game and given to a hack like Tabata to fuck up.
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>>382121907
>He's the sheriff
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>>382105016
Lmao you're a fag
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>>382121843
Against Tonberrys? Nah man, i don't want to literally waste my time. You're welcome to show me how you handle that fight, until then you're just wrong.
If my method works well i will use it, i won't use random shit that takes forever to kill them just because you want me to.
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>>382121237
>that like usual in this game is poorly made
But all the models are top of the line and the best any models have ever looked in any of SEs games. It's also well directed, and the turret section was completely fine because it's a fucking shooting game DLC.

The audio tapes are part of the story and you learn about him through that and his notes the same you do stuff in MGS too, and that worm was a Magitek creation he had been working on which he fused his soul into after his daemonification process was complete. Episode Prompto already looks better graphically than any of SEs other games. And none of those characters were wasted, they were all put to use and used well in XV, out of any of them only Ravus got the short end of the stick. Stop trying to pad your list when only Ravus out of those had the least screentime.
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>>382121345
But the resolution is 1080p and the textures are HQ and clean, not sure what the fuck you are on about? You have played it right? Or are you just basing it on some anons single screenshot?
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>>382121402
I'm sure you're going to keep pretending like people who shit on XV don't samefag.

Hey look, you're doing it.

>>382121445
XV is legitimately fantastic, you're the one here with pleb taste.

>>382121457
He can't, he's just going to spew some shit despite not having even played it.

>>382121806
The cutscenes in episode prompto look better the average ones in the main game. Just playing through ep Prompto they all look great and some even be mistaken for CG for a few secs like the shot of Prompto running up the steps in Insomnia and it panning up towards the top of the tower.
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YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IT
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>>382121978
The batshit crazy one here would be fags like you who can't deal with people like me who call out shitposters, all the while you pretend there is no shitposting against the game happening.
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True review of FFXV:

>Some of the best animations in modern gaming.
>Perfect enemy designs; heavy influence from Amano's work from FF1-6.
>The bro-trip can be fun. The music that plays when you come across a campsite after exploring is ultimate cozy.
>The combat, while flashy and makes you feel powerful, is inherently flawed. Magic is highly overpowered, some weapon-types useless, and some enemy attacks difficult to see and thus to dodge without the QTE. Healing items at least needed to be on a cooldown, and remove Noctis being able to revive on death (aka remove the second health-bar.)
>Driving the car was retarded but now fixed with the Regalia Type-D. This of course somewhat makes Chocobos redundant.
>The graphics in this game are fine, no idea why people attack it constantly. I do agree quality changes sometimes especially in certain camera snapshots, but in motion the game looks great.
>Dungeons are really well-done with the end-game ones pretty tough.
>Not enough superbosses.
>Exploration itself is shitty. Items you find are generally not worth the effort to find.
>The open-world is pretty bad, filled with invisible walls and the map doesn't let you realize this making it seem larger than it actually is.
>Music is on-par with other FF titles.

Overall a 8/10 game, buy the eventual 'Ultimate' edition with all included patches and DLC.
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>>382121990
XV was legitimately fantastic and the cast are the best cast we've had in an FF, with the combat being the best combat we've had in FF.

FF7R combat doesn't look like it'll be as good as XV or look as good as XV, and as long as Nomura doesn't fuck around with the story too much and stays as much to the FF7 story as possible then the characters in that should be fine.
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>>382122547
Post proof that you've played the game.
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>>382122491
>Hey look, you're doing it.
Prove it then
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>>382122148
You're wasting your time if you are just parrying endlessly which would take ages just to chip damage them down.

Magic is far stronger, shields staggers them and makes them vulnerable giving you oppurtunities to attack them with multiplied damage, use prompto's piercer to also increase damage dealt because it halves their defense.
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>>382122558
stfu cunt xv is way better
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>>382107752
Epiosde Prompto was still overdramatic/overacted trash tho. Not to mention completely predictable. A story like that has been told a million times already and writes itself.
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>>382122523
Yeah when you keep spouting bullshit lies like "durr you can hold just O to win the entire game" or "durr not a single enemy has telegraphed attacks durr" then you are going to be called out for not having played the game, because no one who has played it would ever say such blatantly wrong bullshit because they'd know that is wrong.
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>>382122765
As i said, should i just nuke them with magic? Alright then
Again no video from you so you're still wrong
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>>382122856
You haven't played it
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>>382122680
>>382122682
>>382122784
And these turds then try to say no shitposting happens in XV threads.
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>>382114509
>The story writer was a no-name fujoshi for example.

Forever kekking at this. Nomura took based Ferrari with him too when he jumped ship.
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>>382122856
not an argument
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>>382120468
Not really. In fact, despite being a worse game, there is ONE thing that Lagoon has going for it. It's very short. If you have a map, so you aren't lost all the fucking time, you can literally beat it in an afternoon, going from level one to max level. It also has quite a bit of difficulty, since the sword you wield is about the length of a butter knife (not joking, look up a youtube video to see what I'm talking about). FFXV is slightly better, but it's still not good. It's also very long, despite being so easy that you can beat enemies that are 80-100 levels above you.
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>>382122869
If you had played it you'd know.
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>>382122931
>asking for evidence is shitposting
Get help.
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>>382118036
Everything before Tabata took over looked so cool.
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>>382122931
You accused me of samefagging, prove it. Don't start calling my posts shitposts asking about proof of samefagging in a conversation you yourself brought up because you were paranoid about samefagging
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>>382122813
>overdramatic overacted
Final Fantasy then, X is the absolute high of DRAMA and people still suck tidus' dick.
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>>382122924
Desperate falseflagging because your shitposts are getting called out. Funny how you always end up falling onto these falseflag posts as some desperate last resort.

>>382122983
More shitposting.

>>382122987
Wow holy fuck you are so funny some random game from over 20 years ago that you're pulling out of your ass is somehow better than XV just because you are desperate to actually come up with arguments about anything and you need to try and get a rise out of me by saying the most inane shit you can possible try to.
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>>382121927
So you liked the story, despite it making no real sense when contained to the game itself? You liked the gameplay, despite the fact that it's next to impossible to die? You enjoyed that faggot playing the flute every morning in the OST? There's literally nothing you didn't like about it?
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ayy
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>>382123242
xv sucks lmao
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>>382123051
Just looking at this thread you can already see webms here>>382104125
>>382105351
>>382105680
>>382108502
>>382114930
that a certain shitposter uses when trying to shit on the game, and he's been samefagging the thread as he did in previous XV threads.
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Stop reseting your IP 72 times
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>>382118878
>come up with a new recipe
>don't make it
I'm already a demon...
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>>382121990
Atleast VII:R looks like it might have good gameplay since Nomura is just making it Versus-lite.
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>>382114509
>>382122959
>The story writer was a no-name fujoshi for example.
Wrong, there was three writers on XV and they used Nojima's script as a basis.

And Tabata specifically back in 2014 stated that Nomura was involved in the changes the team made to the story all the way through their transition into Tabata becoming director.
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>>382123183
>Wow holy fuck you are so funny some random game from over 20 years ago that you're pulling out of your ass is somehow better than XV.
When did I say it was better than XV? Just because a game has a thing or two going for it in comparison to XV doesn't mean that it's a better game. You just seem to think that comparing it to more recent bad games, like Drakengard 1/2/3, is some sort of meme, and you seem flustered when people compare it to better games.
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I don't think I've ever seen someone as autistic as the XV fanboy on here. I think he legitimately has a mental illness.
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I enjoyed FFXIV a lot more
Please don't kill me xv-kun
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>>382123304
So you haven't played the game then. Interesting.
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>>382123104
Everything since Tabata took over was cooler. That e3 2013 leviathan thing was entirely fake so it doesn't even count as ever having existed as gameplay. all nomura had was some CGI cutscenes in the end.
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>>382123475
4chan attracts all kinds. Obviously, /r9k/ didn't want to discuss FFXV as badly as this guy did.
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>people actually dissing XV's soundtrack

People actually think Hamauzu's soundtrack from XIII is better? It had moments but that battle theme is fucking terrible, that obnoxious "siren" like effect (B, A, BAG, B, A, B, A) and other shit.

Shimomura writes good music.
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>>382105680
That is such a well named webm.
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>>382123475
He crossed the point of no return when he doxxed the kagari person and threatened to rape them
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>>382123378
I didn't.

>>382123124
See >>382123304
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>>382123290
Nah it's good.
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>>382123612
I liked it overall, but it feels like the music changed direction over the years just like the game itself.
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>>382123147
Difference is if a story is objectively coherent and characters are actually fleshed out and given development and are likeable people still have something to praise. XV is unfinished clusterfuck garbage so it being overdramatic/anime-tier and predictable is just one of many things wrong with it.
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>>382123436
No it doesn't, 7R looks nothing like Versus or even KH gameplay wise, 7R looks more like Type-0 with a command menu than anything.
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>>382123612
Nobody ever speaks of XIII's soundtrack when comparing XV's. That said, when people bring up OSTs that are actually good and memorable, you simply reply with "Wrong," or some baseless claim of opinion about both OSTs that you think, for some reason, is more valid than anyone else's opinion.
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>>382123689
>accused me of samefagging
>but here's this other group of posts that I swear are the same person honest. Also you are that person
m8
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>>382123464
You've done this before, you pulled some random game out of your ass then tried to act like it was better than XV, and then you pulled another game out of your ass saying "while not better than xv it's just as bad" and other shit along those lines.
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>>382123729
I don't know how anyone could predict anything with the storyline that just inserts random shit without any rhyme or reason.
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>>382123450
XV is a completely different story and characters even Noct's seiyuu says he's a different character from Versus. You already knew that though XV-kun since Tabata has stressed time and again that it's completely different.
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>>382123475
The few regular people who come to XV threads just to shit on it a million times more autistic.
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>>382123859
Yeah, I admitted that I mentioned Lagoon in the last thread. Lagoon, overall, is a worse game than XV. It's just not worse by much, and does one or two things better than XV.
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>>382123548
>it doesn't count if Tabata didn't do it

Oh XV-kun, you are still good for a few laughs if nothing else.
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>>382123896
Can you just stop being so insecure jesus. You make people that actually want to talk about XV look even more retarded.
You're not the cyber police
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I liked the game but yeah, I guess I feel afraid to talk about it because things get weird. Especially when people start worshiping Versus XIII and forgetting that Nomura wanted to make it a Musical Game after seeing Moulin Rouge.
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>>382123612
It's always just contrarian tards trying to be edgy because they know it will get people who like XV to respond in anger to those trying to trash on it or the OST. Just watch, someone will try and do it like they usually do.
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>got a warning for reporting 4chan biggest shitposter
Bummer.
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>>382123754
>people start praising VII:R even just a little
>it's nothing like Nomura's works even though Nomura is the director it's more like Tabata's shit mobile game!
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>>382123959
It's funny because if it was toriyama who took over, he would've sucked his dick instead
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>>382123834
I accused people trying to shit against XV as samefagging, I don't care if your post got mixed up in that shit, it only shows how cancerous you are if you did.
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>>382123991
At least get your facts right kiddo. And most of this thread is actually about XV, just one guy that can't ignore bait or accept other opinions
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>>382124059
Seriously? What did the Mods say.
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>>382123991
To be fair, I never worshiped Versus because I never played Versus. It's not entirely fair to compare one game that exists to another game that doesn't. That said, I don't like XV, and my reasons are numerous.
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>>382124009
There was 200 replies to this thread before the autist jumped in.
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>>382124059
Same
Mods don't give a shit. I just want to talk about the game/DLC, we had a good thread yesterday even with people that didn't like the game much because most people actualyl accept that or ignore it and just go ahead with the discussion, but xv-kun is incapable of that.
But he'll just tell me that i'm a shitpost defender or some shit because i don't spent 10000 hours of my life replying to them
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>>382124093
>accused me
>couldn't prove it after all
>tried to save face
lol
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>>382123862
The overall storyline is just a clusterfuck, but the anime tropes are present and that's why it's obvious where it will go. It's not just a random clusterfuck, it's also boring as hell. Oh no, Prompto feel like his friends don't need him, but they really care about you for real! (insert scene of character aggressively telling them to get their shit together like any anime ever) ends happily because power of friendship we are bros till the end teehee
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>>382124104
My bad. It was actually Les Miserables.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-final-fantasy-xv-was-almost-a-musical
>>382124114
Yeah, there are numerous reasons not to like the game. I love the game but it's pretty darn flawed.
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>>382123612
XIII's soundtrack was better though. Shimomura does write good music, but at this point it's literally the same tracks over and over again.

I still think that FFXIII trilogy is the lowest point of the series, and even worse than FXV. But despite my dislike of the game, I cannot deny that it's soundtrack was top fucking tier.
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>>382123991
I never gave a shit about versus until the name cahnge and i still think the game is in a mediocre state right now. Is that impossible?
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>>382122547
>The batshit crazy one here would be fags like you who can't deal with people like me who call out shitposters
Tell us more how Noctis is the most powerful character in video games XV kun.
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>mfw watched every Versus trailer a hundred times but didn't even bother buying FFXV
The fact that Tabata was lying claiming he was continuing Versus just soured me even more, putting salt on the wound.
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>>382124160
Dont kid yourself, if you still post here, you already have brain problems for still caring after so many months.
Normal people move on.
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>>382124059
What really?
You'd think the mods would just rangeban him or delete these threads on sight if they were sick of people reporting the guy
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>you're not allowed to dislike FFXV because it triggers my autism
>it doesn't matter if it's your opinion, it's wrong because mine is different
How do people like this survive in this world?
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>>382124315
>Yeah, there are numerous reasons not to like the game. I love the game but it's pretty darn flawed.
I can accept that. I can accept a difference of opinion. We can talk about the same thing, and you can tell me why you liked it, and I can tell you why I didn't, and we can both understand each other and grasp a more realistic version of the game, seen by different perspectives.

What I can't respect is an autist telling me I'm literally wrong for disliking the game. Big difference.
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>>382124348
the literal abrahamic god is a video game character wtf
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>>382124467
He's probably some mentally ill Australian in house arrest or something.
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>>382124428
Describe a normal person to me.
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>>382123991
Hi XV-kun, you're not slick. You're the one who gets insecure when people are shitting on XV so you have to bring up Versus to shift the shitflinging "well this was worse because x reason" Versus never even got released, XV did and it turned out to be a turd. You will never be able to compare the two and say Versus was worse. It wasn't a musical, or any horrible thing you try to say it would have been because it literally never fucking came out.
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>>382124518
XV kun has literally argued Abrahamic God couldn't kill Ardyn and Noctis could kill any god.
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>>382123991
By the time Les Mis came out, the game was already xv
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>>382124690
I just came to a deeper understanding of that dude's delusion.
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>>382124467
He doesn't. Guarantee he's on welfare and lives with his mother. Probably shits and pisses in a bucket when threads like this pop up.
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>>382124690
But can he beat Madara Uchiha? You know which one i'm talking about
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>>382124385
I don't know how anyone doesn't see the shady fuck Tabata is, then again these people are still paying him to fuck their throat pussies with shit DLC so not surprised.

>inb4 but Nomura is worse!

Atleast his games usually have decent gameplay.
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>>382124612
I'm not that guy. I just run into a lot of Versus discussion when I look up anything. I just wanted to talk about the game and see why people had problems with the combat.

I thought there were a bit too many QTE's in pivtol moments like in Episode Prompto with Verastel.

But I guess I just won't talk about the game anymore if I sound like that dude.
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This game would have been better if Aranea was the main character and Tabata stayed the fuck away from this game.
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Why aren't these threads banned on sight
How can you make the same thread crying about a game for so long? Weebs are truly the biggest autists.
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>>382124876
Not me. I'm not buying another FF for more than 20 bucks until word of mouth convinces me to purchase 3 FF games in a row AT 20 bucks, and I actually enjoy them. As of now, there isn't a single one I've enjoyed that was published by Square Enix, instead of Squaresoft.
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>>382124836
unless madara uchiha with the such and such is omnipotent then he can't even hold a candle to king noctis
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>>382124467
I wonder how he even affords internet or why he isn't institutionalized. He must be high-functioning. If you could call it that.
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>>382124467
He probably lets out all his rage on /v/ since it's the only place where he can't be banned forever or can't be hurt
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>>382122869
I haven't even played the game but no way your 'only parry'-strat is faster than what he's suggesting with staggers etc. That would make no sense. The webm you posted also looks super slow.
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>>382103718
HPW THE FUCK DO YOU BEAT THE KAIDER BEHEMOTH IN THE PROMPTO EPISODE?!

LVL 99?!
Prompto starts at 34 and his regular gun is weak ass fuck and all other guns have limited ammo


Also,FFXV has awsome combat and OP is just a chump who didnt take the time to explore all the possibilities of using it.

>inb4 just walk around the whole game using the ring

Fucking autist think that actually works and doesn't just get you one shotted
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>>382124904
That's because Versus was a game many were excited over and it got canceled for this turd that is XV, ofcourse it's going to come up.
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>>382124904
I would talk with you, but I haven't played any DLC, as I deleted my game off the PS4 after the Carnival.

I was so disappointed that I refuse to give another second to that game, even if I bought a season pass before the game launched. Just because I'm out money doesn't mean I need to be out time.
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>>382124836
>But can he beat Madara Uchiha?
By XV kun's logic:
>only Noctis can kill Ardyn
>therefore Madara couldn't kill Ardyn
>since Noctis can and Madara can't, Noctis > Madara
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>>382125102
OP here. I never mentioned the ring. You'd run out of MP doing that.
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>>382125096
Then don't fucking talk about if you haven't played it. It's not like in MGR or Batman where parries deail no damage. In XV barries deal tons of damage or i could just nuke them in 2 seconds with magic. Doing "combos" and warp strikes would do nothing against a group of tonberrys. But he will never show a webm of him fighting them because it's always okay when he does it
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>>382124983
I almost didn't buy Nier just because I don't want to support SE anymore. Kind of regretting it still.
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Does anyone have the webm where Noctis is fighting a robot with dual weapons? I had no idea that was possible.
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>>382125304
Automata wasn't as good as the original in my opinion, but I still enjoyed it all the same. Dunno if I would have picked up the Black Box Edition, though.
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>>382125102
Well, the ring is pretty OP after the patches
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>>382125225
>You'd run out of MP doing that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHLnbCkW8pk
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>>382125384
I just bought the day one edition and, fuck pre-ordering anything ever. I haven't finished it, but I have enjoyed it so far, same opinion not as good as first but not bad either.
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>>382125102
Stun it and spam Crackshot. It can actually activate multiple times. Also Aranea's handy as fugg. You can keep hitting is for as long as the enemy is stunned. I haven't made it to the Kaiser Behemoth but it's how I took out the Angelus.
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>>382124916
Remember Cor was supposed to be a main party member before tabata.
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>>382125505
What's the difference between Day 1 and the regular edition?
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>>382123873
Except XV still uses the basis of Versus in its story even despite the changes, it still has the same foundation of events, majority of the same characters, locations and so on. Not sure why you are acting as if I'm not saying there was changes when everyone knows that, but even despite that XV still has the basic thematic story elements, tone and whatever else in it from Versus despite changes to a few characters and elements. Even the line of story text from 2006 which is the earliest example of any sort of story pertaining to Versus still pretty much 100% applies to FFXV. Hell we even literally see the ancient line of kings physically around the city in KG.
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>>382125294
If magic nukes them in 2 seconds then those parries did nothing in comparison. Didn't even look like you nudged the enemy hp bars.
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>>382125663
I think I just got some pod skins, a grimoire weiss one and a machine head accessory. Don't remember any other differences.
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>>382125627
What as shame. I would have loved to travel around with four fuccbois and their dad. The banter would have been pretty great. Also dumb side quest about getting Cor laid would have been funny.
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>>382125760
XV is nothing like Versus, the only one who believes that is you and retards who never paid attention to Versus in the first place.
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>>382123959
No it doesnt' count when it's fake CG that isn't actual gameplay. The Insomnia gameplay from 2013 however was real gameplay, but guess what? Tabata was the one who was tasked with heading that build

As of now the only actual "real gameplay" pertaining to Versus/XV when Nomura was on board is the few minutes of footage from the 2011 trailer, the 3 minutes of Insomnia from the 2nd 2013 trailer alongside the few second long clips they mixed into the other trailer, and the short teaser of noctis just running from 2010.

The altissia stuff was entirely fake, and everything else in the Versus/XV trailers while Nomura was in charge was just CGI cutscenes in the 2011/2013 trailer, while anything from 2006-2009 in the trailer was just concept CGI that never would have been used in the final game even if it was still Versus.
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>>382125808
I would rather the game not have some shallow anime shitftest story and characters whose characterization is literally just a trope or two.
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>>382125953
>Tabata was the one who was tasked with heading that build
sauce
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>>382125953
>fake CG
>fake

My fucking sides.
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>>382125953
>fake cg
These threads are truly filled with mental cases
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>>382123991
It's worse when people also keep trying to insist Nomura was only joking about that, even though he mentioned it twice years apart. it was Les Misrebles though that made him want to turn it into one not moulin rouge.

>>382124059
I'm not shitposting. I'm calling out shitposters trying to shit on XV.

>>382124061
Yeah maybe use your eyes and actually look at what's happening in the trailer, even then that 2015 shit is outdated as fuck by now so all we have is a screenshot now, and even then it still just looks like stuck to the ground action with three members you swap betwee but using command menu, so like I said like type-0 but with a command menu.
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>>382125953
>fake cg
I'm sorry wat
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>>382124318
No it was not.
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>>382125953
I don't know why you care whether or not it was Tabata considering the game didn't turn out that way after Nomura left completely and tabata was given complete reign. Like gee, I fucking wonder what the common factor is. After Nomura left and took his team and artists/writers with him the game turned to shit. What a coincidence.
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>>382124348
First of all I never tried to argue that, that was someone else, second of all in that thread I was arguing against an idiot who seriously thought Lightning could beat Ardyn.
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>>382125953
Seriously dude, get help.
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>>382126326
wasn't lightning a god
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>>382124385
Tabata literally said XV is not the same game as Versus the moment he was announced as having replaced Nomura. He then went on to repeat that multiple times throughout 2015 and 2016.

>>382124467
>you're not allowed to like XV because it triggers my autist
>it doesn't matter if it's your opinion, it's wrong because mine is different
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>>382126374
Godess. Get xhe pronouns right shitlord.
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>>382124690
No I argued that Lightning does not have the power to kill Ardyn because she only has the power of Etro and Etro is the same power as the Astral gods in XV, who can't kill Ardyn. But hey you're just another retard spouting shit because you're butt blasted and so you want to keep going on about this abrahamic god bullshit that you fell back onto after you were completely destroyed.
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>>382124876
>>Atleast his games usually have decent gameplay.
Where?
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>>382126531
Light could totally kill Ardyn though and she wouldn't even die afterwards. She'd just become more godly.
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>>382126575
Kingdom Hearts 2 had better combat than XV. You can not think XV has better combat than KH2.
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>>382125102
There is a shed near the behemoth where you can run to to restock on weapons though you have to be fast because it takes you out of the enemy aggro zone and once you do the enemy HP starts refilling.
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>>382126326
>First of all I never tried to argue that, that was someone else
Prove it. You were screaming SBK91 the whole time.

>I was arguing against an idiot who seriously thought Lightning could beat Ardyn.
What does that have to do with Noctis being the most power video game character.
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>>382126531
lightning is a cute girl so she'd win
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>>382126531
>No I argued that Lightning does not have the power to kill Ardyn
And that Abrahamic God didn't either.
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>>382126696
KH2 has fuckin sweet combat. The final boss fight was a little miserable though. I liked FFXV because the combat felt like that. If only the magic didn't suck.
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>>382126696
>You can not think XV has better combat than KH2.
Oh boy, you're in for a treat.
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>>382126196
Nomura doesn't even like musicals, just les mis and tabata was the one who was actually serious considering making it a musical if there was enough demand.

>If you take Les Miserables, which you mentioned - I don't like the musical genre anyway. It's not because I like musicals I liked that film -- but as a total score, that film was really good.

http://www.rpgsite.net/interview/3142-talking-final-fantasy-kingdom-hearts-development-philosophy-with-tetsuya-nomura

>Tabata: Yes, you mentioned it, there are a lot of Japanese games or properties which are doing musical stuff these days. I think people enjoy seeing characters from a different angle. If people are really looking for it and want it or we maybe have the offer by someone to do one, we will definitely think about it (laughs)! I’ll keep that in mind!

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/08/gc-2015-final-fantasy-xv-interview-with-hajime-tabata/

also bonus

>Tabata: We mentioned this very often to the media and the fans: Final Fantasy XV and Versus are different games. It’s not always that they share the same tone and feel.
>XV-kun: it's the same guise believe me!
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>>382125141
Except that isn't my logic at all.

My argument is that only Noctis is capable of killing Ardyn therefor no other character can, I said this then you retarded fags got triggerd and brought up "durr but ambrahamic gods durr" which is not even a fucking vidya character and just shows how desperate to win an argument against XV you are, you then tried to argue that Lightning could somehow beat Ardyn because she has the powers of a goddess, despite Etro not being any diffferent in power than the astrals are in XV.

And thus the argument is because only Noctis can kill Ardyn, no one but him can kill him, but this says nothing about no one being able to kill Noctis.

Noctis can only kill Ardyn because he's the chosen king and only the chosen king can use the ring to use the powers of the crystal, glaives and astrals to do the light of providence which is the only way to kill Ardyn.

Noctis is still capable of dying, but Ardyn is immortal with the only way of killing him being the light of providence that only Noctis can do.

There is no need to get triggered because you got completely fucking destroyed.
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>>382126715
>Prove it. You were screaming SBK91 the whole time.
He can't really deny it either
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/380523703/#380567894
He keeps going too
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How does one identify XV-kun?
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>>382125294
How about you shut the fuck up because you are clearly fucking wrong and just want to shill your bullshit shitposts against the game.
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>>382127102
Whenever he enters a thread, he literally starts responding with the first post and works his way down, post by post.
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>>382125474
>posts a link to a joke video made by someone who likes the game
If you can't tell that video was made in jest then you're a fucking idiot.
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>>382125891
>XV is nothing like Versus
You must have not read what I just said then, other than not having the invasion while inside the city since they are now outside when it happens, Stella changed to Luna, and other details like fabulanovacrystallis replaced with cosmogony, the majority of things from Versus is still in XV. I even posted a story exert from 2006 that still 100% applies to XV, with even that very same location still being a part of XV.
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>>382126427
That's true but also false. Tabata clearly kept stringing Versus fans along saying it will stay true to Nomura's vision and even having Nojima come in and sign a permission slip to wave at the fans like it was going be as similar as possible than just said fuck it it's not the same at all and I never planned it to be. Then he has the audacity to shit on Versus fans for calling him out on his shit and implying they aren't real FF fans when he was the one trying to suck up to them for years but it was obvious he was bullshitting them.
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>>382127102
He usually calls everyone in the thread samefag as well as implying that they're some faggot from gamefaqs.
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>>382127061
>Except that isn't my logic at all.
That was your exact train of logic.

>My argument is that only Noctis is capable of killing Ardyn therefor no other character can
Which is wrong.

>which is not even a fucking vidya character
Yes it is.

>And thus the argument is because only Noctis can kill Ardyn, no one but him can kill him
Like Abrahamic God. Or Brahman. Or Caine. Or going far down the power pole, Dr Strange.

>but this says nothing about no one being able to kill Noctis.
Then why did you say Noctis is the most powerful video game character based on this.

>Noctis can only kill Ardyn because he's the chosen king
And XV's characters are weaklings. Any decent magic user would wreck Ardyn.
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>>382127524
read
>>382127051
>Tabata: We mentioned this very often to the media and the fans: Final Fantasy XV and Versus are different games. It’s not always that they share the same tone and feel.

It's completely different all the way down to even the tone and feel so you and your faggot XV buddies can stop pretending it's dark and mature like Versus was supposed to be. XV is a clusterfuck shallow trope ridden turd. Low budge anime-tier story and characters. Disgusting.
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>>382127165
>joke
>shows every notable enemy in the base game getting insta killed
Yeah, sure.
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>>382127524
>besides the mythos, the intro, switchable characters, additional party members, various parts of the story, roles of characters, the main character's rival, tone, and the combat system the game is still the same really
um
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>>382127102
He responds to a lost of post and usually post the same webms over and over.
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>>382126052

>Tabata: I started being involved in the project around July 2012, when we were starting to shift from Versus to the actual XV project. At the time, with regards to Versus, we were considering it for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, and in developing for [those platforms], we were kind of struggling to achieve what we wanted to achieve with this particular title. And so the first mission that I received was to create a prototype for the now current-gen consoles.

>Schreier: And that was also in July?

>Tabata: Yes, the time I started working on the prototype was July 2012, and at the time the details weren't announced for new-gen systems. So my team and I made assumptions and worked on the Windows PC DirectX 11 engine to build this prototype. The result of that was actually shown in the 2013 E3 gameplay trailer; what you see in there is what we were working on.

>At the time that the E3 trailer was shown, that's when we announced the whole title shift from Versus to XV, and after that, I started working on bringing together the team that was working on the Luminous engine as well as the team that was working on XV. And so I worked toward strengthening the team and combining the engine team with the dev team, so they could move towards working together. It was combining the Luminous engine and the Ebony engine — Ebony being the one that was the E3 prototype version — and combining those, and then shifting towards optimising and working towards the PS4 and Xbox One versions.

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/01/meet-the-new-man-in-charge-of-final-fantasy/#EfFfApiT8KZxkerQ.99

You may have noticed that the 2013 trailer only showed either Insomnia or Altissia, well all Insomnia footage was from the Ebony PC build Tabata was heading, any Atissia stuff was CGI by visual works.

https://youtu.be/gyt9xZCx_YY?t=17m24s

>>382126094
>>382126179
>>382126265
>>382126342
Fake as in it's fake gameplay made with CGI to trick you fucks into thinking it was real gameplay.
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>>382126292
The common factor here is that Nomura had no clue what he is doing and didn't release a game, while Tabata took charge and reformed the team and released a great game while improving it from the failed concept that Versus was.
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>>382128218
>while Tabata took charge
Nomura was kicked off the project to work on Remake and KH3. Tabata was delegated the work, he didn't 'take charge'.
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>>382128139
>linking to kotaku
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>>382126374
She had the powers of Etro but Etro is the same type of goddess as the Astrals are in XV which doensn't make Lightning any more stronger than them, and neither of the gods in XV can kill Ardyn.

>>382126715
It's obvious that is you, and no, I wasn't the one arguing that, that was someone else trying to say no one can beat Noctis. I was only arguing once you started fucking saying shit like Lightning could beat Ardyn which is not only fucking wrong on every level but shows you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, you then got completely destroyed and fell back onto "b-but abrahamic gods" because you have no valid argument even though the gods in FF13 are not even that to begin with either.

>What does that have to do with Noctis being the most power video game character.
I never said this. Stop pretending I somehow did you delusional fuck.

>>382127073
Maybe if you read that thread you can see I'm arguing with the fuck trying to say that Lightning can beat Ardyn or Noctis, not that Noctis is somehow the strongest fictional character ever. And I specifically call out that retard on why he's wrong about Lightning somehow being able to beat Ardyn yet he just fucking ignores it because he's a dense retard, like you are too. Like if you can screencap that thread then surely you can actually fucking read what is being said in the arguments and who is actually saying what.
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>>382128139
Of course you'd link to fucking Kotaku of all places. Fucking neck yourself cunt.
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>>382127102
Anyone defending XV is accused of being because shitposters have no creativity or capability of forming any actual legitimate arguments.

>inb4 some dipshit links to this post saying "durr see here"
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>>382128218
>a great game
hah!

>the failed concept that Versus was.
Remember all those years you shilled on it and Nomura before Tabata took charge?
That's why noone takes you seriously, you don't really have an opinion, you're a hypocrite who likes to suck corporate cocks.
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>>382127617
>Tabata clearly kept stringing Versus fans along saying it will stay true to Nomura's vision
First of all you fucks have no idea what Nomura's vision is, and if anyone did it was Tabata, and what we see in the final XV is completely in line with things pertaining to the game that Nomura said would be in it years ago, like the brotherhood theme of bonding, and the roadtrip and a world you drive around and classic fantasy monsters and action based combat etc.

And no he wasn't calling Versus fans out when he said that, he was talking about faggots who say shit like "this isn't muh FF" in general, maybe you should stop talking out of your ass, you also clearly don't seem to actually know what Versus is so I don't see how Tabata lied when he said elements from Nomura's vision of Versus are still in XV, which they are and no one can fucking deny.
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>>382128568
>Maybe if you read
lol
In that screencap he says he wasn't talking about lightning. Also,
>https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/380523703/#380564164
>Where did I say anything about Lightning?
You were arguing with two people and convinced yourself that they were the same person
You are retarded
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>>382127815
>That was your exact train of logic.
No it isn't.

>Which is wrong.
What other character can kill Ardyn in the game?

>Yes it is.
What video game character is called "abrahamic god"? Seriously SBK91 you aren't making any sense and you are objectively fucking wrong.

So are you

>Then why did you say Noctis is the most powerful video game character based on this.
I never did, that was someone else and you in all your retardation assumed it must be me.

>And XV's characters are weaklings. Any decent magic user would wreck Ardyn.
Nope. Ardyn is immortal and only using the power of providence which only the chosen king can use is capable of killing him.

When you have to bring up abrahamic gods as your fucking crutch in an argument you've already lost.
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>>382129169
>What video game character is called "abrahamic god"
He's literally the main villain in the SMT games
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>>382128946
>First of all you fucks have no idea what Nomura's vision is
But of course you do
>if anyone did it was Tabata
>XV is completely in line with things pertaining to the game that Nomura said would be in it years ago
>So I wanted to take this time to tell you before we start promoting FFXV at Gamescom, that this is indeed a different game now
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/04/final-fantasy-xv-is-not-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-any-more-says-director/
>says he wanted to keep things from versus yet changes a ton of shit anyway
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>>382127051
>Nomura doesn't even like musicals
He clearly does otherwise he wouldn't have said he wanted to turn XV into a musical now would he have stated it twice once in 2013 and again this year saying he wanted to turn a game he was working on a few years ago into a musical because he saw les mis, doesn't matter if he isn't in love with musicals, he likes them well enough to actually want to do it which he got vetoed on.

> and tabata was the one who was actually serious considering making it a musical if there was enough demand.
No he wasn't. Holy fuck he was literally just smilling and nodding when someone asked him about it while not actually commuting to anything

"we will definitely think about it (laughs)!"

WOW LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING HE EVEN FUCKING LAUGHS AT THE SUGGESTION

>>XV-kun: it's the same guise believe me!
Where did I say this? I literally jsut fucking explained how they are different despite keeping elements from Versus in tact? Are you fucking autistic or just plain fucking retarded?
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>>382126679
No she couldn't.

>>382126696
No it didn't in any way at all. XV is superior in every aspect.

>>382126846
>so devoid of any actual argument he still has to cling to abrahamic gods
My fucking sides.
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>>382127926
You must be blind because no he did not.
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>>382127975
You listed like 9 dot points out of over like 100 that were changed while the rest are still in.
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>>382129587
>XV is superior in every aspect.
Imagine actually believing this and being so dedicated that you spend all your time shitposting on vietnamese underwater basketweaving boards to try and convince people

What a hard life he leads
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>>382129695
>100 things were changed
>but the game is still the same guys
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>>382128365
Yes Tabata did take charge as he was assigned as the director the literally as director he took charge.

>>382128367
>t-that doesn't count
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>>382129940
>he's defending the use of kotaku
holy kek
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>>382128839
Wow nice lack of arguments.

>Remember all those years you shilled on it and Nomura before Tabata took charge?
Remember all those years you shilled Nomura and then turned against the game once he was taken off?

That's why no one takes you seriously, because you're just a braindead Nomura fanboy who is incapable of changing your opinion on something because you are a close minded piece of shit.
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>>382129012
You mean in that screencap he was damage controlling because I called him out on his Lightning bullshit, otherwise he wouldn't have even tried to backpedal like that.

Meanwhile that faggot is trying to accuse me of being the one who said Noctis is the strongest fictional character even though I never said that. You are the retard here.
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>>382130031
>says other people lack arguments
>literally just "no u"s whenever he has nothing to say
Keep it up, you're doing great
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>>382130157
>I called him out on his Lightning bullshit
>No I swear they were the same person honest
hahaha
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>>382129257
And do you not kill these gods in SMT?
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>>382103718
>Hold dodge until a counter pops up, tap attack, and go back to holding dodge, and you win nearly every single battle.

If you just attack normally and only dodge when you have to (easy as fuck) you win the battle much faster.
Why even make the game even more boring for yourself?
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>>382129443
Did you even fucking read that link? Because it literally has him talking about keeping things in the game from Versus while at the same time adding new things in and making changes, like holy fuck are you seriously this fucking stupid?

Brotherhood roadtrip was always a focal point of Versus as Nomura said so back in 2008, that was the focal point of XV too, there being changes doesn't mean that that element isn't still around, like holy fuck man you literally cannot read.

How does him changing things from Versus somehow mean that things from Versus weren't kept? Are you fucking retarded?
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>>382129697
Imagine actually being in denial about this and still shilling KH2FM to this day even after it got blown the fuck out.
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>>382130031
>Remember all those years you shilled Nomura and then turned against the game once he was taken off?
Who are you talking about
Because he was specifically talking about you
>who is incapable of changing your opinion
I think you mean
>changed my entire defense force because the man I had been defending for the past few years wasn't involved in the game any longer, the story and characters that I shilled were going to be the best ever were gone/changed, and had to save face by now bashing everything related to versus now
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>>382128568
>I wasn't the one arguing that
You directly stated it.

>that was someone else trying to say no one can beat Noctis
No one else screeches about SBK91. You're the only one who deflects to random gamefaqs posters when cornered.

>I was only arguing once you started fucking saying shit like Lightning could beat Ardyn
And then you Abrahamic God couldn't beat Ardyn. That is beyond retarded.

>b-but abrahamic gods
Abrahamic God is a single entity, not a category of gods like the Greeks, Norse, etc.

>even though the gods in FF13 are not even that to begin with
No one said they were. You got confused arguing against two people and somehow came to that retarded conclusion.
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>>382130592
>after it got blown the fuck out
Literally has never happened
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>>382130592
>doesn't even mention kingdom hearts in his post
>no u: the argument
Holy fuck you absolute fucking mental case. Literally kill yourself.
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>>382130495
It's amazing how stupid you are, even after everyone explains things to you constantly
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>>382129804
You really can't fucking read.

I gave an exagerated example that only about 9 of your dotpoints out of about 100 dotpoints you can make about Versus were changed while the rest were kept. And I never said it was the same game you fucking idiot, every post I've made here about this subject I've been saying it's not so I have no fucking clue why you are so triggered when people point out that characters, setting, music, animations, monsters, locations, story beats, concepts and other elements are still in the game since Versus DESPITE the changes?

Are you some kind of fucking special needs retard that doesn't know how to read this basic shit? The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>382130028
>that interview doesn't count because it's from kotaku!?
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>>382130768
>so I have no fucking clue
You got that right you don't
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>>382130186
Yeah that is a lack of arguments, you just said "hah" without saying shit because you're incapable of it, you're just a braindead Nomura fanboy shit stain without a valid opinion and you're triggered that XV is better than Versus.

>>382130283
He was and then he started backpedalling, if he wasn't then he wouldn't have even responded to me when I was talking about Lightning not being able to beat Ardyn.
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>>382130959
Kill yourself faggot.
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>>382130959
>post says literally nothing except pointing out a plainly evident logical fallacy
>"you're just a braindead Nomura fanboy shit stain"
You're fucking insane
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>>382129169
>No it isn't.
It was, stop denying it.

>What other character can kill Ardyn in the game?
You didn't say 'the game', you said 'only Noctis can kill Ardyn'. Those are two different statements.

>What video game character is called "abrahamic god"
He's in SMT and exists in El Shaddai as well.

>I never did, that was someone else
It was part of a reply chain where you repeatedly screeched SBK91. It was you.

>Ardyn is immortal and only using the power of providence which only the chosen king
You're flip flopping again. If you're saying only Noctis can kill Ardyn period, that is obviously wrong. If you're claiming that statement only applies to the universe of XV, then you have no basis for claiming Lightning or anyone else couldn't kill Ardyn.

>When you have to bring up abrahamic gods
Stop saying Abrahamic gods. Its Abrahamic God, singular.

>as your fucking crutch in an argument you've already lost.
No one fell back on Abrahamic God as a crutch, they brought it was brought up to show how flawed your thinking was then you started arguing against it like an idiot.
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>>382130603
>Who are you talking about
I'm talking about the nomura shill there who's triggered that people actually prefer XV instead of Nomura's failed concepts.

And no I mean changing my opinion because I got informed and didn't endlessly need to shill Nomura, otherwise I would be defending KH3 and 7R but no, that isn't happening because I have no reason to shill Nomura, meanwhile you clearly do which is why you even save and keep resposting these screencaps of someone shitting on Nomura as if they don't do anything other than expose you as being a braindead Nomura fanboy incapable of making any actual arguments so you just think posting screencaps will help you.
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>>382129587
>so devoid of any actual argument he still has to cling to abrahamic gods
What argument is there to be had. You directly stated Abrahamic God couldn't kill Ardyn. You are that fucking retarded when it comes to XV.
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>>382130959
>he wouldn't have even responded to me when I was talking about Lightning not being able to beat Ardyn.
He wasn't responding to that, he was responding to https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/380523703/#380557598
Lightning nowhere to be seen
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>>382129650
>You must be blind because no he did not.
What notable enemy didn't he kill in that video that was part of the base game.
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>>382130709
>You directly stated it.
No I did not SBK91, that was someone else, learn to not be a fucking retard and follow posts.

>No one else screeches about SBK91.
Ok SBK91 keep digging that hole.

>And then you Abrahamic God couldn't beat Ardyn. That is beyond retarded.
First of all I never actually said that, second of all you are the one who tried to say Lightning could beat Ardyn then backpedalled pretending you never said anything about Lightning. You even then started clinging to abrahamic gods because your bullshit argument fell apart and you had to think of the strongest possible entity you could think of for your desperate argument so you wouldn't be made a fool.

>No one said they were.
Except you and many people in that thread were seriously trying to argue Lightning could beat Ardyn, hell someone earlier in this thread even tried to say it again. If anyone here is confused and retarded it is you.
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>>382129940
>Yes Tabata did take charge as he was assigned
That isn't how 'taking charge' works. He was given responsibility by high ups, he didn't grasp it himself.
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>>382131187
>And no I mean changing my opinion because I got blown the fuck out and I'm still trying to save face
ftfy
>meanwhile you clearly do
>he's being mean to me that must mean he defends nomura
no
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>>382130714
It happens every XV thread that KH gets mentioned in.

>>382130723
It's obvious he is a KH fanboy because he's responding to a chain of posts pertaining to KH2FM vs FFXV. Why are you so triggered?
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>>382131465
>It happens every XV thread that KH gets mentioned in
You mean you autistically sperg out about concepts you don't understand (like last night with hyperarmor) while everyone watching is thinking you're absolutely mental.
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>>382131465
You're the only one who ever brings up Kingdom Hearts YOU FUCKING MENTAL CASE! Holy fuck just die and rid us of your existence already.
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>>382131465
>he's responding to a chain of posts
>Other people can only respond to a certain post in a specific way otherwise they are kh fanboy
man, I'm glad I don't live your life
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>>382131251
>You directly stated Abrahamic God couldn't kill Ardyn.
No I did not, I only called out SBK91 for being such a pathetic piece of shit that he had to fall back onto using abrahamic gods as his argument because his initial argument about lightning fell to shit.

>>382131048
You first, cancer.

>>382131094
Oh the fucking irony.

>>382131324
He literally tried arguing Lightning could somehow beat Ardyn, also for some reason brought up abrahamic gods for no reason when I mentioned that only Noctis can beat Ardyn, so where are these gods that can beat Ardyn in XV? Oh wait they can't because that's specifically stated, and there is no abrahamic god in XV or in FF13 either.
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>>382103718
I liked the combat. The game was all around solid, just needed more and better content. The dungeons were awesome.

IF you hold dodge, you run out of meter decently fast though. I just wish parrying was more skill based.
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>>382131765
You don't even know what irony is you fucking retard. Eat shit and die faggot.
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>>382131382
>that was someone else
Prove it.

>learn to not be a fucking retard and follow posts
I can. One of your last posts is Noctis is the most powerful video game character ever.

>First of all I never actually said that
Yes you did, it's right in the fucking thread, you argued it back and forth a few times then started screeching about toon powers and mary sues.

>you even then started clinging to abrahamic gods
For the third time, Abrahamic God is a specific entity, not a category of deities.

>the strongest possible entity
That you argued couldn't kill Ardyn. You are that stupid.

>Except you and many people in that thread were seriously trying to argue Lightning could beat Ardyn
How does saying Lightning could beat Ardyn translate to XIII's gods being 'Abrahamic'. You came to that conclusion yourself.
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>>382131765
>He literally tried arguing Lightning could somehow beat Ardyn
No he didn't, more than one person was laughing at your autism.
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>>382131765
>Oh the fucking irony.
As you would say, "not an argument"
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>>382131765
>No I did not
Yes you did.

>he had to fall back onto using abrahamic gods
There were two separate arguments you fool. One was about Lightning and the other Abrahamic God. The latter wasn't falling back on anything as it was an original point.
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>>382131148
>It was, stop denying it.
No it wasn't, I already proved you wrong SBK91.

>You didn't say 'the game', you said 'only Noctis can kill Ardyn'. Those are two different statements.
First of all I was clearly talking about the game otherwise why else would I say only Noctis could kill Ardyn? Second of all you are the one that brought up abrahamic gods because you had no actual argument or any actual character from another FF that could beat him.

>He's in SMT and exists in El Shaddai as well.
You mean a god that is defeated?

>It was part of a reply chain where you repeatedly screeched SBK91. It was you.
No that was you too.

> you're saying only Noctis can kill Ardyn period, that is obviously wrong
No it is true because only Noctis is capable of killing Ardyn, as no one else in the game can kill Ardyn.

>then you have no basis for claiming Lightning or anyone else couldn't kill Ardyn.

Except I do because Lightnings powers are not any stronger than an astral god in XV and none of the Astrals can kill Ardyn, again you were so fucking butt blasted and even here right now you just tried to argue that Lightning could somehow beat Ardyn.

>Stop saying Abrahamic gods. Its Abrahamic God, singular.
>Typos trigger SBK91
Abrahamic gods, get triggered dickhead

>No one fell back on Abrahamic God as a crutch,
Except you did, which is why your argument means fuck all because you couldnt' give any actual legitimate character examples and just fell striaght to "oh man god almight most powerful can do it bcuz he can do anything conceivable"
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>>382131446
Yes it is how taking charge works, he was given responsibility and thus he took charge. Literally he is in charge of it.
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