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FFXIV Stormblood

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Are you guys enjoying your Red Mages and Samurai?
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>>382099182
yea but I'm starting to get really bored, not much to do
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>>382099182
Just started the game and I can't figure out what class to play. This is literally the hardest part of the game
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Reminder that pld is God.
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>>382099502
What kind of role do you want to play?
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>>382099502
The only thing that matters is if you're playing a cute girl
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honestly I gave up at level 62. I was promised Japan and Samurais, but I was doing fetch quests in a desert-type area for people I do not give a fuck about. a quest actually is "hey can you go kill some pests for me?" and it's on the opposite side of the map, so you go there and kill ONE enemy that dies in 2 hit and then you go back.

I couldnt do it anymore. for me the game doesnt feel like final fantasy anymore
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>>382099615
Something that isn't DPS, can be played by someone with spotty internet and not get fucked over. I'm assuming every class can solo just fine as well.

>>382099682
Those dragon girls looked cute
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Are you gaijins enjoying getting kicked once a day so you can enjoy 2k+ queues again because SE doesn't give a shit about paying consumers and won't increase their shitty server capacity?

>http://sqex.to/H4k
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So i am like level 56 MNK and halfway leveled through Heavenward. There's so much running around with the quests i just wanna que a few dungeons and maybe grind some mats.

Feels like square is taking the piss with some of these quests too,
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I wish expansion classes weren't story gated.
I'm still on Heavensward but I'd but Stormblood right now if I could play 50+ content as a red mage.
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>>382099748
You should play a DPS if you don't want your performance to heavily impact others.

If you had to play something else, it should probably be Main Tank with something like Paladin or Dark Knight. It's the least demanding role, even compared to DPS in some fights.

Healer and Off Tank are probably out of the question for most fights if your internet sucks.
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>>382099785
red mage and samurai are in uldah you fuck. these arent story gated.
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Best food right now? Except for fucking Priestly.
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>>382099586

Hello tranny fucker
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>>382099785
They aren't. You just need a class at 50
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>>382099967
Who?
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>>382099752
Just delete Balmung already.
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>>382099682
Au Ra are cuter
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>Zenos and Shinryu are already kill

So who the fuck is going to use the big Stormblood main theme in their boss battle in a later story patch? Bahamut got Answers. Nidhogg got Dragonsong. I thought for sure Shinryu would have got Revolutions.
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I just started playing yesterday as a Ranger (or Archer or whatever) and I'm actually quite enjoying it desu. Bit slow to begin with but oh well
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No, I'm not because I'm broke. Money has been rough these past couple months. And my birthday is this Friday.
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>>382100309
>problem is that login queues are too big on congested servers
>apparently the solution is to have everyone try to relog back in once a day no matter what server you're on, even if yours never has a queue
How retarded do you have to be to think this will fix anything?
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>>382100642
It's gonna be used when we mercy kill Lyse, after she's diagnosed with terminal autism.
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>>382100908
*clenches fist*
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>>382100728
Do note that the advanced job class for archer is hard, so I hope you like singing.
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>>382100728
I started as an arcanist and I feel like I might regret it a bit. Conjurer > White mage sounds something more suited for me
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>>382100975
I'm sorry, autocorrect changed bard to hard
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>>382100841
I think they are expecting the people that are AFK wont realize they're logged out so wont try and log back in.

It'll clear out the people who weren't actually playing. Although giving them 10 minutes to realize they've been logged out isn't really helpful.
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>>382101005
White Mage is surprisingly good right now, so if you enjoy girthy heals + some rather impressive dps for a healer then go for it.
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>Potatoes
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>>382100908
Did Lyse do ANYTHING in the entire expansion? It seems like virtually every character got to accomplish something of value. Except Lyse. She just got people killed or seriously injured. That ending with her front and center marching with all the major characters behind her was so disingenuous.
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>>382100309
this is so japanese my sides have committed seppuku
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>>382100309
They aren't afraid of anything that's insane. They could have prevented this because they had 2 prior crappy launches, they had pre-order statistics and player statistics, they could have anticipated but they'd rather spit on the face of their customers saying it's all their fault and to go fuck themselves.

Why isn't everybody canceling his subscription?
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>>382101196
But anon, she held off those turtles that one time when we fought Susano! She's definitely an important member of the team!
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You know, can this really still be an Astral Era? After Gaius was killed we've still been facing more dangerous shit all the way up to SB.
If they did enter an Astral Era it was a damn short one.
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Blackest night is cool and all, but did they have to reuse the shadow skin animation? Why not use the lb animation where the DRK cuts the sky or something.
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>>382100309
Just do this on populated servers fucking idiots.
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>>382099748
If it's a matter of not dying because of a sudden disconnect while questing then scholar, you get a pet that autoheals.
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>>382099752
It's more like a small percentage of the playerbase that, for whatever fucking reason, decided that they were more important and had to be online all the time, is the group that's fucking it up for everyone.
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>>382100309
Can they seriously not just force a disconnect after 30 minutes of being AFK instead of their current system of just issuing a forced logout command that doesn't work if your character is considered occupied whatsoever?
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>>382101534
Warrior of light is actively beating back the shit that would drop everything into umbral "everything ever is fucked" era, see nignog, Alex, Zenos, shinryu, primals to a lesser extent, etc.

Basically we are the astral era. Remember to collect that dung with the lizard children guys, Eorzea depends on it!
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>>382101824
That's pretty much actually what they're doing but there's people that get around it by idling while running or something so they're doing this now
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>>382101704
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation unless you want to transfer, which, in many cases, isn't a viable option for a lot of people.

>a few people decide to remain online and circumvent the AFK kick system
>other people do so as well simply so that they can play when they actually want to

It's an endless cycle because SE is incompetent at handling the situation properly.
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>>382101534
To be fair, everything after Gaius was threats that already existed. At least now Eorzea is at an unprecedented level of peacetime. Ul'Dah, Gridania, Limsa, Ishgard and Ala Mhigo are all not only at peace, but have banded together to form a great alliance. The XIXth has been defeated, the Dragonsong war ended, and the Garlean occupation of Ala Mhigo is over. The Primal threat is at its lowest, the Empire is on its back foot, most of the Allagan bullshit has been discovered and tamed (aside from Omega.) Eorzea now only has the Ascians to worry about. It even brokered a treaty with Othard after helping them achieve peace.

It's actually pretty amazing how much we've accomplished in an MMO of all things. I imagine by the end of 5.0 we'll have claimed Garlemald and by 6.0 we'll have ended the Ascian threat too.
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>>382100309
Fucking Balmung.
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>>382101948
It wouldn't be a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation if the NA playerbase wasn't fucking retarded enough to clump 80% of their population on TWO FUCKING SERVERS.
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>>382099752
Fuck, I enjoyed leaving game on and pretending to craft.
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>>382100309
>just about to beat susano finally
>game automatically logs me out 10%

SATSUGA
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>>382101938
No, they literally don't do that. All the current AFK system does is force the "logout" command if you remain AFK for 30 minutes, which flat out doesn't work if your character is considered occupied. You can SEE this dumb shit happen if you talk to an NPC or whatever and as soon as the function would kick in, it spits out a "can't do that while occupied" error or something to that effect.

Sure, you'd get people doing what you said if they made it so you actually disconnected after 30 minutes, but the reason why it's so goddamn widespread right now is because you can literally use the game functions itself to circumvent it. SE is fucking incompetent about this whole situation and crying about Balmung or whatever is just deflecting the issue.
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>>382101196
>Did Lyse do ANYTHING in the entire expansion?

Do people actually pay attention to the "story" in this game?

I always skip through every cutscene as fast as possible.
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>>382101704
If people do this it's because their server are shit in the first place. If you can't keep up with the demand you increase production, you don't tell paying consumers to fuck off.
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>>382099785
Go to ul'dah and walk directly forwards from the aetheryte.
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does that tranny drama whore still play?
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>>382102012
> how much we've accomplished in an MMO of all things.

We didn't accomplish anything, this is just the developers handholding the players through whatever hoops their storyline requires. I hate MMO's that treat players like every single one is the divine special person
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>>382102040
>wtf is with this queue I hate this
>move to another server? Then I won't see any other players ever!
>sits in town all day using duty finder
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>>382101534
We're pretty much the main reason it's still an astral era for the majority of Eorzea.
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>>382102040
People naturally want to be where most people are in an MMORPG. That's just how it is. It's SE's fault for not being able to handle things properly, and all these incentives for transferring just push the issue to another server, hence the retarded queues on Omega as well.
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>>382102040
Can't really blame the players for that. People just want to play with their friends or where they can most easily find others to play with. SE should've done something long before it got this bad.
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>>382099586
>26k hit
god damn it, I love this fucking job
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>>382102230

>duty finders

Not the anon you're replying to but pic related.
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>>382099684
>mfw all the new zones except Azim Steppe are desert areas
>even then this is just a fraud back the back half of Azim Steppe is desert area
LOL
O
L

Seriously why is it all tones of grey/brown? HW is turning out to be better than SB in practically every area.
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>>382102193
who
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>>382102146
> Beating Susano by standing perfectly still not touching the keyboard for 30 minutes

Impressive
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>>382100824

I hear you bro. I shilled out for Hollow Knight and even that is hurting my pockets.
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>>382101356
>They could have prevented this because they had 2 prior crappy launches
What? I recall HW as being pretty good.
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>>382102268
This. They've known for years and years that Gilg and Balmung are hugely overcrowded.
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>>382102292
He's not wrong, my point was more that people complaining about never seeing other players is a bullshit excuse for staying on a server like Balmung since all you do is sit in town anyway.
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>>382102229
Well if you want to make that argument, we don't accomplish anything in any games we play.
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>>382102258
I'm not denying that it's SE's fault. They could've circumvented this problem utterly by putting hard caps on server pops to avoid shit spiraling out of control like it did in Heavensward.
I'm just saying that the NA playerbase is the main root of the issue because they're all on Balmung/Gilgamesh. EU DCs and JP DCs don't have this problem. There's small population variances here and there but nothing to the degree of Aether. Omega, however, is a special case.
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>>382102309
They said they are kicking everyone out whether you're playing or not.
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>>382102364
People have friends and free companies, you know. Not everyone is an antisocial retard.
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>>382099763
Don't do side quests, just queue up for dungeons while you do MSQ (read the dialog). If you run out of MSQ but still need exp, stay queue'd for a dungeon and take your (healer) chocobo with you to do N.Thanalan/Mor Dhona fates while you queue for a dungeon.
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>>382102146
Shit primal, brainless fight. Entered with PUs, we proceeded to farm it after we wiped once.
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>>382102386
You're right, I misread it. Wow that's pretty shitty.
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>>382102369

That's a dumb analogy because other games require actual ability to progress, the storyline in Eorzea marches onwards without any regard to what anybody playing is actually doing/responding.

It bothers me.
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Let me guess, Red Mage can't debuff monsters.
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>>382102408
and its possible for multiple people to accept the free transfer or even to still party as long as its the same data center.
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>>382102295
>Red Sea
>Yanxia
>desert areas
???
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>>382102439
What would you rather it did?
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>>382102364

I know, it really bothers me that things like duty finders exist.

I despise the whole marketboard shit too.
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>>382102146
>Going to trial knowing that server shutdown is incoming.
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>>382102475
>that one guy that is still butthurt SAM isn't a tank
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>>382102483
Yes bucause fuck FCs, fuck LSs, fuck friends, fuck housing etc etc
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>>382102495
I wish Archeage wasn't run by Trion. I'd play that all day every day.
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>>382101047
How the fuck is once a day gonna do anything for people that are AFKing and doing nothing? The 30 minute afk timer obviously fixes this, but that's not even the problem here. The server capacity is shit, and on servers like balmung they're going to have queues no matter what kind of retarded, roundabout "fix" they implement for AFKers.
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>>382102528
I don't play this garbage.
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>>382102501
> Come home from a long day of work
> Have an hour, maybe a little more to play some of your favorite game, FFXIV
> Decide to try and beat Susano Ex
> Too bad, the server's gonna log you out halfway through
> Not worth bothering to play any worthwhile duties
> Guess you can't play FFXIV tonight!!
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>>382102559
Yeah because sitting in a 4,000 person queue with your entire friends list and FC is a real fun time. Also I love missing housing cause its camped by 20,000 players and then having to pay 100x its value maybe 6 months down the road to get a house.
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>>382102583
>that one guy that is still butthurt SMN can't summon full versions of all the primals
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>>382102491

I'd rather the developers not force the main story on people and instead give the players options that matter in the game by aggregating all the choices the playerbase makes and then make writing decisions based on the total choices they made.

The latter isn't as important, I'm just really bothered by being forced to go through snowflake storyline in order to access a new region, I love games where I'm not anybody necessarily important but make my own importance felt by making friends in-game and being at the core of a team of players with their own specific goal in this virtual world in mind.
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I'm starting to see the appeal of Gaius and the Empire. The Mol's religion is fucking retarded. No wonder they're one of the weakest tribes. Getting a bit sick of dealing with these backwards ass natives.
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>>382100309
Which worlds does this even affect? Just balmung? I've noticed no queue difficulty on Gilgamesh. Does it really reach 3k+ during peak hours? In that case FUCK this I log in during non-peak hours stop trying to fuck me over Yoshi I already put up with the shitshow of EA and the continued spotty servers even now. Gonna riot or something with this shit if I gotta lost another hour to play for no reason.
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>>382102631
SMN really should be able to summon full version of all the primals though.
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>>382102631
>that one guy that expects a good game

You sure got me.
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>>382102483
And it's possible for not everyone in that group to want to transfer at all. Friends also have other friends that aren't part of a given group and can't always easily communicate to use the halfassed cross-world party finder.
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>>382102592

This is fucking ridiculous. This is a game people actually BUY and then PAY SUBSCRIPTION for. Where the fuck does your money go? And they even have the gall to have a fucking CASH SHOP in this.
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>>382102641
Without memeing, if you want a game where you feel like an unimportant cog in a machine, play WoW. That game barely acknowledges your character's existence most of the time, and they're not allowed in most cutscenes because you're not the main character. You mostly just help out Blizzard's OCs.
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>>382102674
>>382102675
>those two guys that want the entire screen covered by huge models and flashy lights for 5 minutes before an inevitable wipe because nobody can't see the AOE markers
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>>382100309
>forcing entire datacentres to mad rush back in once a day
i wont be surprised if this fucks things up even harder
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Should i focus on leveling my crafters now or my other jobs? Have DRK/NIN at 314 already.
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>>382102763
Not a SMN, but in fairness why not let them summon a scaled down version of the primals? Pic related
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>>382102842
Oh you mean the ones they already have?
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>>382102763
If it wasn't a problem on PS2, why is it a problem now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QAZFey6m24

That being said I have no stake in SMN being fun or not, I don't play DPS. Still feels wrong.
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>>382102040
Is it actually 80%? What's the actual statistic?
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>>382102601
This doesn't change shit to congestion. Sure servers have shorter queues than others, but the whole data center still shares the same DF instances server meaning you can fuck off to whatever sever you want, you won't be able to play during prime time unless you're a crafter or a roleplayer, period.

What is SE solution about this? To mass kick people to make sure there are queues over 1k on every single server.
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>>382102763
Isn't that XIV raiding in a nutshell? Fucking frog posters, man.
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>>382102651
It's game-wide. And the queues are already starting to lessen since I sat through a 1,400-ish one on Balmung during prime time and it took a pretty short time to get through, so SE seems to be late to the boat on their halfassed attempt to address this issue.
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>>382102763

Back in my day we had full size summons and no AoE markers to begin with. Git gud sonny.

RIP FFXI
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>>382102631
SMN should though. Stormblood already showed that they're heading in that direction. Only 2 DoT's now means we're slowly heading in that direction.

We're the Trance and Ruin class now. I would fully support getting rid of the DoT's and Pets in order to give us temporary Summons like Bahamut. I really liked the 3.X SMN, but that is now kill thanks to all the horrible fucking changes 4.0 brought. So rather than carry on being this halfway stop gap between what SMN was and what they want SMN to be, i'd rather they let SCH be the aids spreading class and just let us summon and spam ruin.
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>>382102916
Yep!
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>>382102950
RIP XIV
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>>382102920
Have you seen FF11's combat? Shit's like 50 times slower than FF14. Not that that's a bad thing, but 14 has much more in the way of dodging aoes and running around all the time.
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>>382102920
Different game with different mechanics that worked and played totally differently.
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>>382102931
No, it's not actually 80%. I don't know the actual statistic but all it takes is a cursory glance to realise that most of Aether's population is concentrated on Gilgamesh and Balmung.
Or you could just take a look at one of the many population censuses.
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>>382102920
Funny, I don't see any actual gameplay footage in that video.

Maybe FFXI didn't have as much of a focus as running around and avoiding AOE attacks? Maybe it was a lot slower of a game? Maybe it was a completely different game with different considerations to be had with visual design?
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>>382102920
FFXIV plays completely differently to FFXI. For one thing, FFXI didn't really require you to pay that much attention to what was going on in the actual field, most of the important information was in the text log.
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>>382102931
This is changing a bit since they're trying to put people in the smallest servers but not by a lot.
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>>382103040
>>382103084
XIV doesn't punish you for dying. It's also way less technical and has giant neon colors flashing everyone on screen to warn you when an AoE is coming. It's also shit.
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>>382099586
This isn't even that impressive. I do 3k on war for susano and i use the lakshmi ring.
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>>382103184
>XIV doesn't punish you for dying
>what was the absolutely crippling Weakness debuff that guaranteed further deaths during progression
>what is the new, even more crippling version of Weakness in SB that cuts damage output by monstrous amounts
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>>382103273

>this
>punishment

Oh my God, how new can somebody be to MMORPGs.
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>>382102475
There is more to RDM than its niche in XI.
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>>382103184
>XIV doesn't punish you for dying
Oh, I didn't know that! Well you may not know this, but if you want to sit in aoes, you don't need to be blinded by huge primals, you can just go stand in them! It's actually quite easy with the "giant neon colors flashing!"

But I feel I've adequately answered your question as to why large summon sizes may not be as good in XIV as they were in XI.
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Who's ready for some raids?

You picked a useful job, right?
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>>382103335
just give it up autist
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>>382103335
>implying that dying once making you more likely to die again and become weaker is not a huge punishment
Sure it's not the loss of EXP of XI, but that's from a different fucking era.
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Im switching over from WHM to DRK and im leveling in POTD because someone said it was the best way to go sub lvl60.

My only question is whether its better to just do floors 1-50 and start over or go all the way to floor 100. My DRK is level 41 rn and its aether gear is 31/29
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>>382103386

Not even the same guy you dumbass.
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>>382103184
Dodging giant neon colors flashing everyone on screen is more fun than FFXI's text adventure combat.
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>>382103184
>XIV doesn't punish you for dying

Maybe not by de-leveling you (because who fucking dies in the overworld?) But it sure as shit punishes you for dying in a trial. Especially as a Summoner:

>Have 2 full stacks of Dreadwyrm Aether, a full stack of Aetherflow ready to go and full MP
>Die for any reason
>Lose all my Dreadwyrm Aether, lose all my Aetherflow stacks and locked out of getting more of them until the minute long cooldown finishes, lose all my MP, lose my Pet and cant re-summon since i've no MP, gain a weakness debuff that cripples my damage output and forces me to take more damage so i'm easier to kill.

I am more scared of dying as a SMN then I ever was back in my days as a NIN in XI.
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>>382103462
Run 51-60 over and over again if you just want levels
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Yotsuyu better become Gosetsu's loving wife or else I'll cancel my sub!
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>>382102641
I'm not sure what you're really envisioning here. Has any game ever done that? It sounds like an extremely inconvenient way to write a story for any game unless you want to wait a year or two for anything to happen.

I don't think being treated as special is all that bad either, it's just a matter of you being the main character of the story instead of some nobody who is just there to witness events. From the perspective of the story, all other players besides you are just basic adventurers while you are the protag. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, it means you can feel more involved in the story and the world, and the events don't feel as impersonal, you can actually feel sad from seeing characters you liked dying because they had been a bro to you or whatever. You were the one that journeyed with them and helped them out and vice versa.
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>>382102763
I had a 4 SMN party for Susano the other day, never again, what the fuck.
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>>382103462
>running POTD until you go braindead
>when you're playing a privileged job and could be doing dungeons
why
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>>382103548
>unless you want to wait a year or two for anything to happen.

Isn't that what happens now with the release cycle for expansions?
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>>382100309
WE JUST DID NOT EXPECT PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY PLAY
PLEASE UNDERSTAND
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>>382103548
Runescape did it but some of the events were obviously rigged to take it down a certain direction. It was absolute shit.
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> joke trial with extreme mode featuring our brother most radiant summoning his Nhamaa with crystals
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>using a polearm in FFXV is fun as fuck and the animations are top tier
>kinda wanna play DRG as a result

What am I in for and how hard am I gonna be disappointed?
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>>382103273
>you have to recover for a minute

OH NO YOU POOR THING

>>382103495
Incorrect

>>382103364
>literally one of the most powerful classes
>niche

>>382103507
>dying in a trial

Which nobody with half a brain does
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>>382103507
XIV's punishment for death is putting a strain on the rest of your party members, who now have to:

> Manage a DPS check without you
> Tank swap quickly to make up for the MT's death
> Manage healing whilst rezzing

Losing XP would just force you to grind more, and make it less appealing for newbies to attempt difficult content.
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>>382103492
i said give it up, spergo
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>>382103578
What are content patches?
All of them have story elements, tying up loose ends of expansion's basic story and setting up the next expansion.
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>>382103621
looks like you don't know what "niche" means
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>>382103548
>it means you can feel more involved in the story and the world, and the events don't feel as impersonal

Yet they somehow still do because I have no fucking control or volition over what's happening. I'm being strung along by the devs and forced to do their shitty story just to unlock new areas. A lot of the time I'm really frustrated and just like "CAN I PLAY THE FUCKING GAME NOW?" after a slew of cutscenes/dialogue that I invariably end up skipping because it just does not interest me in the least.
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>>382103578
The story progresses each patch.
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>>382103509
Okay thanks

>>382103569
My DRK is level 41 and I really dont want to do any ARR dungeons when I dont have to. Aside from doing them on my roulettes, I've done those dungeons enough times when leveling WAR and PLD
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>>382103621
You know, FFXI is still running if you wanna go play that instead, anon
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>>382103668
Looks like you never played a good MMO before aka XI.
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@382103640

>i said give it up, spergo

Cry more.
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>>382103673
Maybe you should just stop playing if you hate the story so much. This game is literally marketed as a heavily story driven MMO, as something that sets it apart from the others. If you hate it so much, maybe it's just not your game.
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>>382103721
They're not adding content to it anymore, and i play on a private server.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather video games were good again. Which they aren't. XIV is a prime example.
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>>382103673
> Skips all the cutscenes
> "WHY IS THE STORY SO SHIT"
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>>382103724
>this is how retarded Vanafags are
Why aren't you playing your precious RDM in it's perfect form right now? XI servers are still up.
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>>382100309
based
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>>382103724
Literally no one has ever given actual argument why XI is good. Outside of the fucking idiotic "you had to team up with other people in order to grind mobs for 10 000 hours to get one level and that was so hardcore" -shit.
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>>382103673
>retard plays an entry in a series known for being heavily story-focused
>bitches and moans about cutscenes and cries about wanting to play the game
Are you fucking retarded for real?
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>>382100309
>Paying a monthly sub for a game you are not allowed to play.
Topkek!
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>>382103814
SAM was a tank!
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>>382103798
see
>>382103783


>>382103814
>No one has ever given an actual argument why XI is good

Oh, so you're new. Do you have a few hours for me to list all the reasons why XI is superior?
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>>382103772
>Maybe you should just stop playing if you hate the story so much.

Maybe I should.

>This game is literally marketed as a heavily story driven MMO, as something that sets it apart from the others.

For a "story driven" MMO they sure do like to budget cut during cutscenes by having NPC's do the same generic emotes and /actions over and over and over.

>If you hate it so much, maybe it's just not your game.

>if you dislike one portion of a game, all others do not appeal to you

I like the crafting system in this game and also the gathering. Being able to make high quality equipment for fledgling adventures that is actually decent is something I enjoy.
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Post your biggest FFXIV sin

I've gotten to 60 numerous times and have done all the story quests pre SB only to start over on a new data center with friends. TWICE
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>>382103587
We need more joke trials. Hildibrand not offering up any new trials in Heavensward was disappointing but he was a last minute addition to be fair. I hope to see a few joke trials in 4.X

They have to do something to tie us over with the loss of a dungeon in Odd patch numbers.

>tfw we're only getting ONE new dungeon between now and Patch 4.2 which will be something like Feb 2018

Kill me.
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>>382103569
HW dungeons before Vault are cancer, and even then Vault and Gubal are only bearable because each take 3 runs of rested+armoury for a level so you don't do that that much. FUCK everything before the Vault though. Also PotD skips 50-55 like nothing.
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>>382103867
>Do you have a few hours for me to list all the reasons why XI is superior?
I'm not going anywhere and I'm going to laught all the way down.
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>>382103797

>story completely fails to draw me in and I have to end up skipping to preserve my sanity and play the GAME

Yeah it's pretty shit if it fails to hook me so hard that it turns into a huge negative experience. That's the hallmark of shitty game design.
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>>382103814
XI was way better than XIV because it was the first mmo I played, I had lower standards back then, and I have a misguided sense of achievement because I consider putting up with its flaws as a badge of honor that XIV fans don't have to deal with.
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>>382103913
I like the Aery.
I like the instance and the gear.
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>>382103872
There's only one - possibly two - FF games with a good story. XIV is not one of them.
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I want to lick a horn
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>>382103874
I had half of my jobs at 60 before I even finished the ARR MSQ.
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>>382103848

Not an argument.
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>>382103385
Yes, picked up bard after clearing both primals on machinist and realising it sucks
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>>382100309

I swear to god if I had a genie I'd burn a wish just to wipe Balmung off the data centers and make the data irrecoverable.
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>>382103621
You stupid fuck, I mained RDM for several years in XI. They were not a niche, they HAD a niche, and that was enfeebling. Which was something they only specialized in that much for that one game.

Enfeebling is not RDM's identity for the whole of the Final Fantasy universe.
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>>382103962
Go on anon, what are the "one, possibly two" FF games with good story?
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>>382103606
Pls respond I wanna know how much awesome jumping around and impaling things in a ridiculously over the top way there is
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>>382103385
please explain this picture.
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>>382104065
XI and possibly XII
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>>382103867
Gentle reminder never to respond to XIcancer.
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I just picked up the game again and I am too scared to play my tank yet as I dont know any rotas and forgot all mechanics in the new dungeon so I am leveling a White Mage now. I am using a controller and Im having a hard time targeting people to heal, how do people heal or even tank with a gamepad? DPS I can understand but man.
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>>382104089
people picking players for the raid based not on that player's actual performance, but based on the job they are playing
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>>382104121
Can you give me a harsh reminder instead?
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>>382103893
>They have to do something to tie us over with the loss of a dungeon in Odd patch numbers.
Maybe more tomestones from more things so there would be less need to grind those two and three dungeons again and again. That shit always makes me drop the game on occasion and with less dungeons it's going to be even worse.
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>>382104138
I think you use the d-pad to select people from the party list. Not sure, i'm a M+KB player.
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>>382104121
>>382104163
It's hilarious to me that people who play the worst fucking MMO in the history of MMOs think they have a right to talk.
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>>382104163
DON'T RESPOND TO IT, FAGGOT
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>>382104138
>Im having a hard time targeting people to heal

Just use the Dpad, senpai. Up and down to cycle through your party list
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>>382104209
>the worst fucking MMO in the history of MMOs
I don't think you've played that many MMOs if you think XIV is the worst.
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>>382104231
Please, scream at me more.
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>>382104209
I know, I can't believe XIfags think they can talk either.
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>>382103960
Idk I just can't do it anymore. When I get SohmAl/Aery in roulette I immediately feel like gouging my eyes out and immediately bail.
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>>382104148
how would it be fair for a AST to do same dmg as WHM but still give damage buffs to the raid
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>>382104251
I've played WAY more than you have, guaranteed.

>>382103935
I probably won't have enough time to teach your noob ass since the XIV defense force is pushing this shit thread to bump limit faster than sanic himself but I'll give it a try.

- Better story
- Sandbox gameplay
- Parties usually required
- Solo play at higher levels was earned, not granted
- Largely unique player classes and combinations
- Limited number of instances
- Crafting was highly rewarding
- Better soundtrack (in b4 someone only agrees with just this point only)
- Every step of the game was endgame, not just max level
- Better world and dungeon designs
- Stunning graphics and aesthetics for the era (XIV's are way under par)

Just for starters. Also the game had an immaculate subscriber retention rate compared to XIV.
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>>382104251

You're right, it's one of the worst not the worst.
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>>382104329
It's not the number on the right that matters, it's the percentile on the left, which compares the parses to everyone else who uploads parses.
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>>382104209
> XIfag is hyperbolic and exaggerates things
Woah, colour me surprised.
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>>382104239
Wow I feel so retarded now I was always using d-pad left right and it always targeted the mobs. Thanks senpai.
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>the story in XIV is very important!

>here's a cash shop potion that lets you skip all the story and instantly levels you up!

Explain this.
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>no one can fucking do Shinryu
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>>382104448
I'd feel insulted but you're Canadian.
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>>382104483
>Create a problem
>Offer a monetary solution for the problem
Explained. It's the jew.
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>>382104483
Faggots like you who skip the cutscenes complaining that they had to play through the story.
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>>382104176
>hmm ppl aren't going into dungeons I wonder why
>guess they hate dungeons let's not make them anymore
Honestly idk what they're going to add in place of more dungeons. If they just expect us to Hunt/FATE train I'm going to quit until the last 2 patches before the next expansion again.
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>>382104483
Well you see there are people who would pay money to play this game and pay money to skip the story because they think story doesn't matter.

So you make money, which is important.
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>>382104483
>Explain this.
SE fanboys, whiteknights and defense league. Remember it's only not okay when Blizzard does it.
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>>382104423
>XIfags are this butthurt that XIV is the FF MMO of choice
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>>382104483
Money

duh
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>>382104517
You know that's how literally every country except America spells the word "colour", right?
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>>382104420
Where do you get XIV sub retention rate info from?
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>>382104539
That isn't their reasoning though.
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>>382104514
>get Susano in trial roulette
>wipe 4 times because the off-tank can't grab the orbs
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>>382099752
Why is it always Americans that ruin things for others?
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>>382104483
SE is too fucking stupid and prideful to actually realise that they made a mistake by filling ARR with buckets of filler quests at max level each patch, so they gave us two options
>put up with the amazingly bad ARR story
or
>skip it and fund another one of Yoshi's castles
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>>382104483
Well for one thing it's pretty useful for people who have already played through the story and are making a new character. For another I guess it's to make asshats such as yourself shut up and stop bitching about the fact that you are playing a game no one is forcing you to play.
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>>382103797
I can only stand seeing two twinky elf twins talk about stupid bullshit for so long. Even when I go back in the journal to see what I missed there's nothing but a soap opera-tier snoozefest.
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Thanks to the horrendous queue times I just switched to my DRK I level to 60 when he came out. I dont feel like playing PLD or WAR, so fuck it, I use my edgelord because its fun. How is tanking with 4.0 DRK though? I know I can just check his changes page, but I would like to hear an opinion of someone who plays him before and after 4.0.
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>>382104636
Why didn't you just let the OffTank do the Rules of Nature Maneuver and you get the orbs?
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>>382104514
>healer that dies to EVERY single avoidable aoe
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>>382104570

I've never even played XI. Stop getting confused with who you're replying to, idiot.
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>>382104483
They have to fund FFXV's DLC somehow
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>>382099182
Just hit 70 on RDM today, went on the bro quest with X'rhun to save Arya and then jumped into a Castrum Arbania run.

Holy fuck me 70 RDM is insane. No hit less than 7k, 1.90 second cast times, then instant hit of a second spell, plus one of the two OGCDs, then the melee combo.

It's OP as fuck and I am going to love it until it gets hit with the nerf bat and gutted like tanks and healers.
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Have the jannies stopped with their faggotry of deleting these threads? Nice
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>>382104591
You can call it a lucky guess if you really need to.

>>382104624
XIV doesn't release sub numbers because they're embarrassed concerning their retention rate. Everyone knows that the majority of their retarded fan base quits the game a month after every expansion / update. And for good reason. The game is shit without "content" being pushed into it. It's shit regardless but especially shit without anything new.
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>>382104685
I wasn't the main tank.
I don't know why they didn't switch.
Didn't help that one of the healers kept dying too.
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>>382104675
DRK is garbage until it hits 70
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>>382104714
>It's OP as fuck
It's really not.
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>>382100824
Happy birthday for this friday anon! I hope your day is awesome and even if you don't do a lot or get a lot, know some rando from who knows where wants you to be happy!
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>>382103874
I used the instant level 60 shit after i started new on louisoix
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>>382104695
I'm replying to Anonymous, who I've been replying to this entire time.
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>>382104514
>Doing Shinryu in trial roulette
>4 new players
>During add phase 2 players just walk straight off the platform
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>>382104741
They should be deleting these shill threads though.
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>>382104675
As someone who mains DRK, I feel like it's in a great place right now. Sure, some of the changes are pretty questionable (why the fuck was it necessary to utterly gut blood price?) but overall DRK feels really good at 70. The Blackest Night is an amazing CD for both MTing and OTing.
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>>382104741
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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>>382104801

>he doesn't have 4chan X unique identifiers enabled
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>>382104675
It's fun.
I have no idea what I'm doing but it's fun.
The Blackest Night is probably the most satisfying move in the game.
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>>382099182
Why this thread wasn't deleted?
Did mods kill them only during american shitposting hours?
Also Yoshida finally lost it
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/263f9a10fe534e8c93e43d08fde73eaba1c52976
>As such, we’ll be instituting a temporary measure that will log all characters out simultaneously across all Worlds on a data center once a day
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>>382104764
idk im 67 and i'd be hesitant to call it garbage. pulling as much shit as physically possible, busting cooldowns and spamming DA + Abyssal drain is fun.
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>>382104483
Besides SE being jewish and wanting money? Simple: There is a huge amount of players that want to play with their friends but stopped playing or have never played before. Unfortunately this game asks you to complete roughly 450 quests if your friends are at Stormblood. SE couldn't afford to continue losing that market just so they could push an awful story.

FFXIV is not like other MMOs, you are REQUIRED to do the story and for the loads of people that are coming back to check out the tantalizing new jobs they couldn't get beforehand because they fell the fuck to sleep during one the "go talk to this guy on the other side of the world and then come back to me" quests, it's too much to ask them to dredge through that shit.

They lost too many potential shekels with Heavensward because they locked the three jobs behind the initial 300+ quest storyline and they weren't willing to lose anymore.
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>>382099182
Im enjoying my PLD, but the fact they DUN GOOFED with the changes of SEVERAL classes are flat out undeniable.

>>382101534
Umbral Eras are are basically when BAD SHIT actually happens to the whole continent (or more)that flat out reshapes it and the time it takes for civilization to recover from that, so the last one was when Bahabutt raged so hard spacetime crashed and subsequently became the bondage of the Phoenix previously know and Lousioix, WoL has cut-short most of the BAD SHIT before it actually does any overly significant damage.

Garleans are bad, but they haven't actually reshaped the whole fucking continent yet.

Alex on the other hand would brought about a new Umbral era if not for STABLE TIME LOOP and I WANTED YOU TO WIN!
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>>382104514
>3+ members fail the QTE
HOW HOW HOW HOW
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>>382104965
>There is a huge amount of players that want to play with their friends but stopped playing or have never played before

Those are called "informed consumers"
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I'm enjoying Red Mage but holy shit the AOE is one of the worst piece of shit designs I've ever seen
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>>382104965
>FFXIV is not like other MMOs

Unless you're talking about WoW, in which case it's exactly like other MMOs.
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>>382104819
>>382104895
Do you play with controller? I cant really find a setup that feels comfortable to tank with. I put the pull moves on rt-lt, the cooldowns on dpad buttons and combo moves on the mainbuttons, but it still doesnt really feel right so I could need some inspiration on that regard.
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>>382103797
>WoL nods
>WoL unsheaths weapon
>WoL scowls
>WoL sheaths weapon
>WoL waves arms around
>Supporting characters raise their hand to their chin and tilt their head
>Pray seek for succor
Great story, truly up there with other FF titles.
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Tried the game out back in March. Only made it to lvl41 as DRG before I stopped playing. I'm thinking about resubbing to try healing.
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>>382105180
I play with KB+M, so I can't help you there. Sorry.
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>Zenos was killed off before getting the chance to wield Zantetsukan

Missed opportunity to be honest. I thought the samurai on horseback statue in Kugane might have been forshadowing
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>>382105094
>worst piece of shit

You were expecting something different?
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>>382105191
>ignoring all the dialogue options
But those don't matter to you because the end result is always the same anyways.
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>>382105228
>That Shinryu reveal
>yeeeea it's just in the rooftop garden lmao
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>>382105228
Raiden Primal when?
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>>382105209
Its okay, Im basically asking to get spoonfed here anyway. I just check some other threads as its a question that seems to get asked everywhere anyway. Its just harder to find lv70 crossbars so shortly after Stormblood.
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>>382100309
>Have to use Duty Finder to complete a dungeon for Main Scenario Quest to advance in the story
>Queue as DPS
>10 mins into the Queue get a warning that the servers will autokick you in 1 hour
>45 more mins until you finally get put into a party
>Get to final boss of the dungeon
>Server autokicks you and your party
>Try to log back in
>Too Many Players in World
>Number in Queue: 6000

BRAVO YOSHIP
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>>382105191
That's far beyond anything you'll see in the FFs that are generally considered the best in the series, so what is your point, faggot-kun?
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>>382099586
What is this addon/mod? called?
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Decided to start a free trial. Dunno what classes are what. Do people like Marauders? Any starting tips for someone new to the game are welcomed.
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>>382105191

Man you sure must love old school jRPGs then.

>tiny ass indiscernible mass of pixels walks up to you
>wall of text pops up
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>>382105325
Just give it a week, it'll die down.
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>>382102649
>Garleans bullied by the other races because they're magic retarded, are forced to northern Ilsabard
>F-FUCKING MAGES REEEEEE WE'RE SUPERIOR TO YOU IN EVERY OTHER WAY
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>>382105264
Even black mage press three buttons. Red mage press one over and over and over.
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>>382105228
I wish there was a SAM version of Zantetsuken now, but it's still GLA/PLD only.
>>
>tfw poor
>but started charged 150k gil for a tank queue at lv 70
>suddenly not poor
this is fukn great
i might even be able to get a nice house at this rate
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>>382105446
Again, you were expecting something different?
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>>382105283
I'm your rolanberry.
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>>382105359
>comparing 8/16bit games to full 3D ones that can be animated properly
Out of all the arguments you could have chose to defend Hackshida's game you went with the retarded one.
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>>382105348
Play whatever appeals to you, you can freely switch between them once you're level 15.
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>>382105094
> the AOE is one of the worst piece of shit designs I've ever seen
How come? Scatter until mana then Moulient.

Which is totally different from other, smart AOE designs such as

Aero3 Holy Holy Holy Holy
Katon Doton Blossom Blossom Blossom Blossom
Doomspike Sonicthurst Doomspike Sonicthrust

Or my personal favorite
Overpower Overpower Overpower Overpower
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>>382105330
Even Final Fantasy IX has better animations and doesn't resort to stock ones, XIV-only fag.
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Hey everyone, just dropping some information before the Omega Raid patch next week. These are what I've gathered from the translations sent to me, so I do not know how things will play out in the game itself.

Tanks:
The enmity generated of all tank stances have been increased.
Warrior's Shake It Off now restores HP on the successful removal of detrimental effects.
Dark Knight's Abyssal Drain's MP cost has been increased.
Paladin's Holy Spirit potency has been increased to 450.

Healers:
White Mage and Astrologian remain unchanged.
Scholar's Indomitability's potency has been increased to 500.

Ranged/Caster:
Bard, Black Mage, and Red Mage remain unchanged.
Machinist's Heated Slug Shot and Heated Split Shot's base potencies have been increased.
Summoner's Demi-Bahamut's visual appearance has been adjusted.

Melee:
Ninja, Monk, and Dragoon remain unchanged.
Samurai's Midare Setsugekka's potency has been reduced to 680.
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>>382105094
Isn't that what AOE is for half of the jobs?
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>>382105475
I don't think he realizes that a job shouldn't be top tier at everything.

Besides, with moulinet and a combo for 5 moulinets in a row, RDM is not even weak in the AOE department.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONT6fxiu9cw

Last part of the documentary's out
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>>382105526
A WHM typically presses a few buttons in addition to those to set up proper spam.
>>382105550
Well that's just a flat-out lie.
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>>382105562
>Samurai's Midare Setsugekka's potency has been reduced to 680.
I know this is fake, but thinking about this raises my blood pressure.
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>>382105550
IX has a better story and music, too. And everything else.
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>>382105348
Do you like tanking, dps or healing?
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>>382105424
Well Garleans really are superior since they found a way to wield magic despite their genetic inability to do so.
Unlike Eorzeans who still have medieval-tier technology and are busy copulating with beastmen races instead.

Funny enough, the only remotely advanced technology Eorzea has was imported by Cid, a pure-blooded Garlean.
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>>382105605
>A WHM typically presses a few buttons in addition to those to set up proper spam.
So you're telling me you aren't using Manafication, Embolden, C6 and Moulinet in AOE?
Uninstall faggot
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>>382105348
Marauders are a Tank class. Eventually they become Warriors.

Lancers become Dragoons

Conjurers become White Mages

Thaumaturges become Black Mages

Arcanists become Summoners and Scholars

Rogues become Ninjas

Pugilist becomes Monk

Gladiator becomes Paladin

Archer becomes Bard

Warrior/Paladin are Tanks

White Mage/Scholar are healers

Monk/Dragoon are melee DPS

Bard, Summoner, Black Mage are ranged DPS
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>>382105585
I'm not complaining about strength, I'm complaining about how retardedly boring it is. I wouldn't mind them nerfing aoe if dungeons weren't still aoe fuckfests.
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>level 70 DRK quest

I have no idea what the fuck is going on.
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>>382105643
I'm not sure who you think you're responding to, but your hostility is unwarranted and frankly an overreaction.
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>>382105631
but they're only advanced because they ripped off Allagan shit, who were so smart they probably fucked off into space

They made fucking perpetual motion reactors and energy to matter converters.
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>>382105562
>Dark Knight's Abyssal Drain's MP cost has been increased.
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>>382105490
The point of the argument went right over your head, retard.
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>>382105712
As opposed to a misinformed "worst piece of shit design" comment which is totally not an overreaction
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>>382105562
imagine if this was true
fuck i hope it isn't true
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>>382105727
Allagan's died, m8. Member the Crystal Tower questline?
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>>382105759
Good thing I never said that then.
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>>382105735
Probably to go along with the enmity increase.
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>>382105562
>Warrior's Shake It Off now restores HP on the successful removal of detrimental effects.
>Dark Knight's Abyssal Drain's MP cost has been increased.
>Paladin's Holy Spirit potency has been increased to 450.
>Scholar's Indomitability's potency has been increased to 500.

What the unironic fuck
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>>382104950
You can spam DA AD like you used to be able to due to the changes to Blood Price. As such, your AOE threat and survivability vs many targets has decreased. MT/OT roles against bosses feel fine aside from potential enmity issues, but dungeoning has gotten worse. Until you start getting Blood Gauge from your two buffs, DRK feels a lot shittier than it was
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>>382105562
>Summoner's Demi-Bahamut's visual appearance has been adjusted.

At that point, I think every SMN would just give up and switch to Red Mage. That's all we have right now.
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>>382105837
>you haven't changed in this regard
>as such you now do worse
????
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>>382105727
>but they're only advanced because they ripped off Allagan shit
No, they didn't
They first came with magitec and advanced and only after that started to steal from previous civilizations
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>>382105902
they probably changed it to be see through since it kept blocking aoes on the floor and shit
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>>382105631
But and EORZEANS WUZ ALLAGANS though, who the Garleans are trying WAY too hard emulate and whom were FAR more technologically advanced.

Eorzeans may be backwards hicks, but when you live in what is basically the ruins of like what? 5? SUPER ADVANCED Civilizations and have reminders of how their hubris worked out that's not entirely unjustified.

And Allagan fashion>Garlean fashion.
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>>382105951
Hopefully they'll have made it a little bit smaller too.
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>>382105348
Here are some friendly tips from a season veteran

- Start out with a Tank or Healer class, we always need more of those and you'll probably like them. Tanks: Marauder and Gladiator Healers: Conjurer and Arcanist (Get to 30) Scholar

- Save all of your gil because you might need it later on. You should only spend gil on repairs and travelling fees

- Combat with most classes sucks shit until you hit Level 50 as you dont have your entire rotation or core set of skills until then. Once 50, content becomes alot more enjoyable due to the variety of skills and cooldowns you'll have access to

- You can totally go down the rabbit hole of being a full time crafter/gatherer if you really want to but I'd advise getting to 50 on a combat class first.

- This last one is pretty important, be social when playing this game. If you dont have any irl friends to play with, why not make some online? Even just having a light chat with some people in one of the main towns can lead to a great relationship down the road. Its a fun game anon but you have to see past a few of the dregs it has early on.

If you ever need help, ask in one of these threads and stay the fuck away from /vg/
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>get to azim steppe
>retarded beliefs and religion everywhere
>an entire tribe of "hit first" trannies
>the lizards are such a bunch of primitive animals that they would still be flaying each other if the WoL didn't point out the enemy marching to their doorsteps
>mfw the entire region's MSQ is about commissioned a bunch of fucking mindless drones to fight for you
I'm glad I'm out of this shithole
Also this sack of shit is everything that's wrong with lizard customization
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>>382105983
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>>382106002
Fuck you Azim steppe was goat.
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>>382105983
inb4 you can glamour Demi-Bahamut into a carbuncle
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>>382105996
>If you ever need help, ask in one of these threads and stay the fuck away from /vg/

This is the most important thing. /vg/ is a hell of nothing but avatarposting, erpfags and drama. I went there once when I first got into FFXIV to ask about WAR rotations, and all they did was talk about how WARs were the perfect bara job or some shit, and then post Curious Gorge porn.
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>>382106104
It was horse and sheep but definitely not goat.
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>Level 70 BTN
So, Yellow Scrips arent there yet?
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>>382106165
I chortled
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>>382105693
Myste is another aspect of your Darkside, one that feels remorse for the endless killing and realizes in your subconscious that all these "bad" people who died at your hands had their stories ended right then and there. You got to see the background issues of people you helped / fucked over and Myste sought some form of forgiveness for the nature of your job.

WoL makes a lot of broken homes and widows. All the bitches we killed had lives, reasons, and relationships. Quest implies that you understand it's your burden to bear and you shouldn't seek forgiveness. The Fray aspect of your Darkside doesn't give two tucks about doing what needs to be done.

DRK canon job for the MSQ, or is the most fitting.
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So is Kagure the containment town for all the Sasukes and Kiritos now? Is Limsa finally freed from retarda?
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>>382106214
SMN and DRK both have the most MSQ oriented class quests.
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>>382106165
> Doing that one fate where you milk the sheep
> My fc are laughing pretty hard about it in the discord chat
> "THE SCENT OF DEATH HAS DRAWN FORTH A NEW FOE"
> mfw the entire time
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>>382105903
You can't throw out ENDLESS DA AD because blood price returns a fraction of mp per hit compared to what it used to. It means you're not spamming enmity on large groups. It also means you're not draining exponentially more health to survive bigger and bigger pulls. That aspect of tanking went to shit.
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>>382106237
Yes. Limsa is now the hub for crafters and gatherers who aren't retarded.
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>>382105693
Just like "Fray" was a manifestation of the WoL's dark side, Myste - who looks like an amalgam of Haurchefaunt and Ysaile - is a manifestation of the WoL's guilt for all the people the WoL killed or failed to save. He tries to force you to succumb to that guilt and try to escape to a fantasy where everything turned out alright for everyone, just like in the 30-50 story your dark side tried to force you to stop caring at all. It sort of resembles the classical division of the psyche in id, superego and ego.
It also ties together nicely with the WoL's interactions with Zenos, who calls attention on the WoL.
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>>382105562
>SAM's Third Eye not getting buffed to 25%
fake
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>>382105562
Here's some actual changes,real leaker here.

>Fairy Embrance potency reduced to 200
>Adloqium MP cost increased
>Lustrate potency reduced to 550
>Excogitation potency reduced to 600, cooldown increased to 120s
>Aetherflow MP restore reduced to 5%
>Shadowflare now only lasts 7 seconds
>in order for Bio II and Miasma to have coinciding dot timers, Bio II was reduced to 24 seconds
>Broil II MP cost increased
>Fey Union nerfed to 400 potency, range reduced to 5 yalms and the fairy will be desummoned if the fairy meter reaches 0%
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>Stormblood didnt come with a fantasia
>Stuck as a lizard girl

I wanna be a guy again dammit
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>>382105562
>Scholar's Indomitability's potency has been increased to 500.
"Hey guys, let's try CPR on this long dead rotten corpse!"
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>>382106503
"yall need to calm down, you haven't played it yet"
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>mfw people begging for Royal Menagerie nerf
Why even play the game if you're not going to learn the mechanics?
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So what do you think about the fact that at the end of the expansion they backpedaled and Gosetsu is alive after all? Im torn about this one,
because he was a great character and this would be a fitting and worthy end for him. It would have weight and made him Haurchefant tier. On the other hand Im glad because he is a total bro.
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>>382106457
All trannies eventually want to return to being a guy
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>>382106350
So going back "to where it all started" and hearing about Haurchefant's immortalization in his family's memory helped the WoL come to terms with the "end of the story" ordeal. Hence why the soul crystal reformed right then and there.

Okay that makes a lot of sense. Thanks
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>>382106589
Its a fun fight and the mechanics are both, easy yet challenging. Its the perfect difficulty for an endboss.
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>>382106589
>See all these PF Menagerie groups
>Meanwhile I did it first try with my DF group

Did I get lucky?
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>>382100309
>buh buh my DPS queue!
Why not use Party Finder? Yes it's loaded with DPS but cross world shortens an hour to less than 15 minutes, which will actually blow right past if you do something productive.
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>>382105562
>Monk remain unchanged.
>Riddle of fire, riddle of wind and tornado kick remain unchanged.
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>>382100642
Rhalgr will get revolutions.
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>>382101196
*clenches fist*
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>mfw i parse better than the dps in my party
I thought I wouldn't enjoy WHM in SB but jesus christ I wouldn't change my holy spams for anything
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>>382106727
>Riddle of fire' weaponskill recast time increased to 30%
>Tornado kick reduced to 300 potency, and the player cannot gain Greased Lightning for 30 seconds after using it
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>>382106589
>what do you mean i have to actually use a braincell for a fight
goddamn hes not even hard
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>>382106591
>backpedaled
he was never going to die in the first place. It goes against the narrative.
Haurchefant's death was tragedy. He had to die for his character to rise above. He was a jobber in one of the greatest families of Ishgard who wasn't even allowed to live in the city. Just blocking the hit wouldn't have made him any different than any of the other characters that the WoL has faced.
Gosetsu's "death" was noble. He didn't have to die for his character to be redeemed. All he had to do prove that he was a true samurai through and through as he constantly lamented about doing throughout the MSQ. He did that. There was no reason for him to die afterwards.
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>>382102631
>>that one guy that is still butthurt SMN can't summon full versions of all the primals

>people believe full versions should be mammoth size

Literally give me primals at minions size, 1 fucking job YOSHI-PEE.

I wont mind if the Lv3 LB is those primals going full size but seriously.
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>>382106651
>>382106350
Job quests are usually pretty dull overall, but DRK's was god tier because of how it ties in to the character being the WoL.

>Woe betide the man who stands against the Warrior of Light, for death shall be his reward. Death for him and his kin and all he holds dear.

>Woe betide the man who stands beside the Warrior of Light, for death shall be his reward. Death for him and his kin and all he holds dear.
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have i7 6700k, gtx 1080 and play at 3440x1440 85hz panel, at max settings my avg fps is at 55. I feel like I should be getting more frames.
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>>382106896
I forget how many times my party wiped but it's just dodge the thing, stand here, don't stand there, AOE, hit the tail. The fight. Like every other boss fight. The fact that falling off the edge isn't even perma death makes it easier.
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>>382106945
>Summoner LB3 isnt Titan, Garuda, and Ifrit doing their signature attacks from their respective fights

Wasted potential right there famalam
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>>382105562
>Dark Knight's Abyssal Drain's MP cost has been increased.
>White Mage and Astrologian remain unchanged.
>Samurai's Midare Setsugekka's potency has been reduced to 680.
I don't want to believe.
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on a scale of 1 to bamboozled how many of you thought raubahn was gonna fucking die or some gay shit
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Tried PVP for the first time last night.

Is it always this messy and chaotic? Just seems like a total fucking spamfest.
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>>382107097
>Look back at the SMN LB3
>Teraflare is kind of boring to look at

Just got to see RDM's Vermilion Scourge and it blows it out of the water
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>XIV Shinryu model was literally ripped of from the V sprite
>there people who will still defend Yoshida after this
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>>382107190
if you did Frontlines then yes.

Shatter can actually be fun with 8 man parties where actually taking out the enemy party members can matter but they always do 24 mans which are just an absolute clusterufck
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>>382105562
>Another DRK nerf
>Another PLD buff
Yosh needs to fucking kill himself already along with every god damn PLD cry baby.
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>>382107226
You fucking retard
XIV Shinryu has hind legs
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>>382106886
>this might actually happen
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>>382107226
Yes and?
FFXIV has always been a fanservice game. I would assume that people who think it to be cool seeing a sprite from older game as big end game boss wastly outnumber those who don't like it for some reason.
And most haven't played FF V at all.
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>>382107272

I did 8v8. Haven't done Frontlines yet, so Frontlines is even worse?
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>>382106289

Koji writing can be pretty on point some times.
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>>382107226
>XV
>Gilgamesh entirely new incarnation
>It's not Greg reeeeee
So being exactly the same is a problem, and so is being entirely different.

Ok.

>>382107190
If it was Frontlines, yes. If it was Feast, then there should be a bit more organization.
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>>382107226
You can't magically make a sprite into a 3D model you dipshit
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>>382107226
>Yoshida can magically turn 2D sprites into full 3D models by simply "literally ripping" them out of the original game
>refuses to use this technomagic to give us FFV remake in full 3D
YOSHIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>382107346
Frontlines is 24 man alliances (usually) going around to hit a big thing of ice when they pop up and whoever does the most damage to it gets the most points. First to 1600 wins.

Generally it can be described as "Maelstrom and Adders circlejerk each other while Flames casually take all the points"
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>>382107346
Frontlines is not PvP, it's Pv Ice and sometimes some idiot hits you for basically no reward and no risk.

I like it because it's good fast exp and I don't need to actually pay attention or try at all really.
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>>382107161
Why did they even keep her alive? Even Merlwyb had screentime in Stormblood, popoto sultana is nowhere to be seen.
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post SAM glams
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>>382099684
and at what point did FFXIV ever feel like a Final Fantasy game? Through it's entirety it's always been "Go A -> Go B > Return A > Go C"
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>>382100642

Is going to be about Fordola and the people left over from the forced occupation as the reign of government changes over.

Hopefully it won't be and we get other things happening like Isle of Val shit and such.
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>>382106214
>>382106350
Damn you guys are making me wish I had chosen DRK first.

Instead I went with AST and PLD
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>>382107446
>"Maelstrom and Adders circlejerk each other while Flames casually take all the points"
>Serpents wrecking the competition for the longest
>4.0 hits
>suddenly Failstrom is the strongest
>get placed in Flames
>Alliance chat admitting defeat before it even starts
I usually select Freelance and it's weird seeing the entirely different mentalities.
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>>382107446
>Maelstrom and Adders circlejerk each other while Flames casually take all the points
This. I'm in maelstrom and the freelancer system forces me to twin adders all the time.

Just recently got my frontlines mount since winning is next to impossible
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>be a dps peasant
>queue 2h for a roulette
>get kicked out
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>>382107530
What's the hakama? It's the mogstation one I guess, haven't found any other ones.
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>>382107565
Add random encounters every 3 steps to that and it's a classic FF game.
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>>382107565
>Through it's entirety it's always been "Go A -> Go B > Return A > Go C"
Sounds like a Final Fantasy to me.
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>>382107568
It's going to be Ala Mhigan civil war.
The Little Ala Mhigo epilogue quest makes mention of the Corpse Brigade (fascist police of the Mad King Theoderic before the Garleans rolled in).
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>>382106424
Pls stahp it's already deaaad.

SCHfags asked for it, they spent ARR and HW acting way too smug too loudly for their own good.

>>382106591
I hope he will take Yotsuyo to Eorzea and join the Scions while supervising, because she can't stay in Doma for obvious reasons, and i doubt they would save HER only to kill her off.

>>382107226
That's a good thing and delibirate, seriously did you not notice how they WENT HARD on the FFV invoking, did you fucking miss the fatc that the fact that the preorder and Deluxe shit is a Syldra Mount, Chicken Knife and Wind-Up Bartz, not to mention Turtlemen (Ghido) and Lupin (Explicitly based on the werewolves from FFV).

SB wants to invoke FFV, if anything it isn't referencing ENOUGH FFV shit, it needs more GALUF for one thing.
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>>382107530
>not using the dragon helmet
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>>382107530
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>>382107809
I love this.
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>>382099182
I'm only level 58. Will it take for goddamn ever to reach expac content?
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>>382107565
>Go A -> Go B > Return A > Go C"
This is literally classic JRPG gameplay. Go to class>go to your room>return to the main hall>go to Quistis.
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>>382107858
HW's story is a lot shorter than ARR's, if that's any consolation.
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>>382107758

>not to mention Turtlemen (Ghido)
Ghido is actually a minion that drops from Sirensong Sea.
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>>382107909
It is thanks. The ARR slog was brutal for me.
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>>382107530
Unoriginal, but still the best.

I haven't even bought SB yet
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>>382105693
>Everyone wondering who the fuck this kid is
>That realization when the prompt showed up with the option "Say your name, your real name!"

Blew my god damned mind.
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>>382106591
I mean this stupid cunt was shot like 3 times in the spine and crushed by a wall and ends up fishing in the middle of fucking god knows where.

I really hope they at least expand his story, and he doesn't just come back with his dick in his hand
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>>382105631
Don't need advanced tech when everyone can use magic.
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>>382107758
>while supervising
As many people as the Scions kill, I don't see any reason why they'd go through the effort. Especially on Thancred's end.

Speaking of, patiently waiting for him to go berserk at some point. Dude looks like he doesn't sleep for more than 30 minutes at a time and seems to stab people in the neck a lot more than 2.0.
Rip fanservice man.
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DDoS attack is a SE lie! You mut see through their tricks!
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>>382107858
Depends on how you level, if you spam Frontlines you "only" need to do 20 to hit 60 but likely less since you are doing MSQ, i'd say Advance MSQ as far as you can and do Frontlines (and/or dungeons if Tank/Healer) to fill up when you hit a level roadblock.

I will say this though, the "road" from HW end to SB start feels shorter then the ARR end to HW start if you ask me, not sure if it is objectively, but the the story feels less "filler" and more urgent which helped with the flow, I like the ARR patch questline though, it was cozy and so was Revenant's Toll and Mor Dhona.
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>>382099752

Why would they pay for extra server capacity when the game will lose 60% of its activity once the initial rush quiets down?
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>>382106269
This is true, the SMN got to kill an Ascian without needing Moenbryda's white crystal
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>>382108324
The stuff with haurchefant and ilberd in the ARR ending was good. I agree that the end of HW felt shorter though which was nice. I was pleasantly surprised when I learned I was in the final dungeon.
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>tfw selling HQ catkillers and HQ leve fish for 110k a head to overly hasty anglers
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>>382107568
BRING THE SNEHHCK
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>>382108468

>tfw paid for a new computer in RMT in just 3 days

I love you balmung, you autistic fucks.
>>
Come up with ideas for The Minstrel's Ballad: Shinryu's ???.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1z4M9mexlI
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>>382108451
To be fair, it was a pretty low ranking Ascian.
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>>382108324
My favorite story content would be between Seventh Astral Era and mid-Heavensward while traveling with Estinien, Alph and NotShiva. Didn't have to worry about leveling, no ilevel blocks, and the flow just kept on going.
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>>382108665
no indicators for anything, you have to watch the colour of the wings
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>mfw NA's are now forced to log out because of Balmung players
JP server master race reporting in. Aether is cucked once again.
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>>382108787
You must be 18 or older to post here.
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>>382099586

Always kick a dps that does less damage than a tank
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>>382107226
There's loads of enemies that are accurate to their old sprite designs and there's even more enemies that are just straight up recycled like the FFXIII robots and the new FFVII remake Guard Scorpion which showed up in Mobius first. But who cares? It's a fan service game, I like it. Makes XIV feel like a massive hub or a centre point for all the FF games.

They've stressed many times that FFXIV was made for Final Fantasy fans in mind.
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>>382108787
Assuming you're not lying, arent Jap players resentful of NA players on their servers? With the language barrier and all
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>>382108196
I would imagine it would be Gosetsus request basically the idea i have is this:

>Gosetsu saves Yotsuyo.
>Domans wanna execute her for her crimes.
>TRAGIC BACKSTORY makes Gosetsu want to spare her.
>Yotsuyo gets "banished" to Eorzea.
>Gosetsu gets sent along to enforce the banishment and keep her from going to the empire.
>They help the Scions in the Lead-up of next Expansion.[/spoiler
>If next expansion is Garlemald the Yotsuyo having political connections as alluded to (Only accomplishment is "whispering in the right ear") could make her a good in for connections.
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>>382109142
Good thing I'm not American nor do I go on Tonberry which is Aether-lite.
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>EU shitters can't complete anything even at level 70
Should I just go to JP and become a pug hero?
Yoroshikus seem far better than Saluts
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god damn, SB locations are so ugly and boring visually

what the hell happened? fucking Ruby Sea man
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>>382109142
Resentful is a strong word. They'll just specify whether or not they care to have people who can't speak their language joining their groups. I played on a JP datacenter for a time and there were plenty of groups made by Japanese players who were fine playing with foreigners as long as they played well.
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How do you cancel retainer services without cancelling your sub? I'm looking through retainer services and all I see is how many retainers I can hire.
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>>382109175
But what about her cousin?
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>>382109317
Join Chocobo or Masamune if you want to play on a JP server.
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Is there a reason to use veriflare unless I mess up my meters?
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>>382106591
I was happier to see Yotsuyu lived.
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>>382109317
Enjoy getting blacklisted by nihonese for not pulling your weight. Also watch out of ausfags.
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>>382109345

Go back to WoW if you want to jerk off to zones.
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>>382109535
>Enjoy getting blacklisted by nihonese for not pulling your weight.
Implying nihonese can even tell
They're all PS4 players
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>tfw i kick people who are obviously using a gamepad
>tfw i kick anyone who parses lower than me
>tfw nobody argues because i'm the important one in the group
I'm watching your dps at all times, shitters.
No, I won't let you slack off just because it's a 4-man. If you parse lower than me, you're fucking gone.
If you get hit by AoE constantly, you're gone.
If you fuck up your rotation, you're gone.
I'm watching you fucking trashlords. I'm always parsing to weed out shitters that drag out dungeon runs.
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>>382109502
You're the same person from the thread the other day, aren't you?
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>>382099586
whats this overlays name?
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>The Mhiggers of Little Ala Mhigo all chimped out in 2.0 because they want Gibs and freedom for Ala Mhigo
>After liberating their homeland, they fucking refuse to go back and decide to carry on living in squalor.

Mhiggers
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>>382109430
They expire when your sub does. So clear them out prior or else you wont have access to your items.
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>>382109583
No? I would guess there's a lot of new 2nd rdm now
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>>382109581
lowqualitybait,jpg
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>>382109586
I'm guessing it's the reddit one, Kagerou
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>kusoge doesn't have the pet wyvern
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>>382106575
That was WHM. Turns out he was right!
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>>382109572
They can and they will. JP is notorious for it.
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So, how are the DPS queue wait times now?
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>>382109679
Use Verflare if your Black Mana is lower.
Use Verholy if your White Mana is lower.
You're not really "messing up" if it goes one way or the other. As long as you manipulate them so that they both get above 80 as quickly as you can with a 1 point difference minimum.
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>>382109502
You /want/ to have your meters uneven so that you can use veriflare/veriholy. It's an extra bit of burst dps at the end of every melee combo. Why wouldn't you want to have it?
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>>382109728
That's a dragon.
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>>382109748
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>When being afk in PVP is bannable for 3 days
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>>382109505
>>382106591
I was hoping they would both die together and then fuse into some grotesque male female ghost demon. The phantom of Doma castle ruins and they would be a primal battle
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>>382109345
>muh open world
Blame the OF shitters who kept complaining about ARR being too cramped
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>>382109647
So I have to cancel my sub to cancel my retainer services? What kind of shit is this? Why can't they make it where I can keep my sub and be able to cancel my retainers?
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>>382109748
20 minutes for relevant content if you're lucky. About an hour for leveling roulette.
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>>382109748
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This is now a glamour thread
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>>382109783
>Call Wyvern
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>>382109787
>harass other players
>get banned
WOOOOOW
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>>382109881
No this is not. Fuck right off back to xivg.
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>>382109859
That's a nice rock
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>>382109859
wrong picture
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>>382109748
I queue between 15-25m these days. 25m for peak hours, sometimes as low as 5M in the early morning. tbqh it's not so bad if I've got side quests to do while I wait.
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>>382109897
I bet you think Skryim has dragons.
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>>382109881
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So it looks like WoL will have to use primals to destroy Zodiark.
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>>382109951
dragons are a mythological creature with no applicable real world counterpart with which to correlate. as such a dragon is whatever the particular medium decides it is.
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>>382109345
I think they realized hardly anyone ever went into the overworld in heavensward except to fate level. All these beautiful zones completely empty. So this time they didn't put much effort into it and made frontline the most effective way to level. And then also the visual effort went to the dungeons like Doma castle
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>>382109931
>>382109859
You see, the only reason to add tank jobs is to help queue times and adding Dark Knight didn't help the queue times.
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3rd part is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONT6fxiu9cw
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>>382109973
>Obi'wan Shinobi
I have to admit that's pretty clever
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>run dungeon
>don't get a single drop
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>Get new BTN gear
>Look like a gay cowboy
Th-thanks.
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Feast is surprisingly fun if not spammy. I expected to really dislike PVP here but hey, it's pretty enjoyable.
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>>382109973
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>>382110031
There were times of the day when dps would be on the needed list for roulette
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>Sumonner class
>is actually a dots class with pet

wow. this has to be the worst Summoner class in any video game ever
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>>382109838
Did you not read my post? I said when your sub expires. It doesn't renew. You don't have to cancel anything
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>>382110071
>use BTN gear as MCH glamour
>am a gay cowboy
Th-thanks
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>>382110154
Irvine glamour it is then.
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>>382109728
Dragoons are dragon slayers, not pet owners
Dragoons having pets was retarded, drk using scythes was retarded, xi was retarded.
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>>382110139
Fuck off faggot, you're the reason summoner got ruined in 4.0.
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>>382110139
>DOT class
>has less DOT based gameplay than bard
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>got the classes I care about at 70
>pvp is shit
>no reason to do dungeons
>already have susano weapons and snek gear
I knew there wouldn't be any content at 70 but im still disappointed
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What's the best food for tanks and what stats should I be slotting for my PLD?
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>>382110139
>tfw I loved the HW SMN and now its a clunky piece of shit because of autists like you.
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>>382110191
I hope you make sure you never do more than 1.5k DPS in any content if you're gonna glamour Irvine, to mimic his crippling retardation.
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>>382110229
if you don't have every class at 70 you've still got stuff to do :)
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>>382110139
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>>382110213
You are retarded
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>>382110115
This guy. Me and my FC members laugh at him all the time. One of which is excellent in PVP and actively takes joy in beating him every time.
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>>382110236
>What's the best food for tanks
Whatever has the highest amount of vit and has crit on it
>what stats should I be slotting for my PLD
Crit
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>>382110256
I'll be sure to choke on DPS checks because I can't take the shot.
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>>382110145
But my sub is on a reoccurring sub.
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>>382109642
Let's face it, only reason Ala Mhigo gets liberated is because of the tactical value of pushing back the Garleans. Lyse can REEEEE all she want, but in the end Ala Mhigo is only good for one thing, being a Buffer state.

And you know, the fact that just letting Omega lie in enemy territory would be MAXIMUM RETARD.

No one actually cared about Ala Mhigo itself except the sultanas pet Bull and Lyse.
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>>382110272
I like how he puts the FC kill count on his comment when it's only 1
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>>382110139
Fuck you and yours for ruining my DoT management class.
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>>382110229
Did you get all your fast mounts
Did you complete all side quests
Did you farm all new glamours

No? Then stop complaining.
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>>382110293
Just stand still and /panic
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>>382110042
>12:55
>it helped push cumulative subscriptions for the game beyond 5 million
>beyond 5 million
WoW fucking btfo
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>>382110115
>FC kill count 1

...The fuck does that mean? He killed an entire free company and took the placard hanging above their front door?
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>>382110271
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What's the new super food? Getting really tired of still paying 35k for omelettes.
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>>382110219
That's because faggots like >>382110139 ruined the job.
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>>382110218
>>382110245
>>382110310
just rename the class

this is not a Summoner.
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>>382110336
I'm guessing it means he's beating one guy in his FC so far
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>>382109902
A shame really. I liked Fashion Souls and seeing creative armor sets but c@trash and landwhales/neckbeards looking for internet validation for their pathetic existence ruin it.
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>>382110218
>>382110219
>>382110245
>>382110270
>>382110310
>buttmad discount warlocks
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>>382110382
it is in this game fucko
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>>382110324
why should I get faster mounts in areas that I will never visit again?
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>>382110382
Because summoners being red mages with inflated MP costs is so much better right? Summoner has always been the shittiest job in every FF game, the MMOs and FFX were the only ones where it was unique, and in FFX summons weren't that useful outside of being meat shields or double overdriving.
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>>382110218
>finally actually summon something powerful
>ruined
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>>382110382
I remember hearing here that it was initially planned to be void mage.
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>potion boost DRG
>AFK in Frontlines
>PVP titles/sets unlocked
>tfw hit 70 without casting a single spell

Fight me, faggots.
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>>382110456
>job is now spam ruin for two minutes then summon bahamut for 15 seconds
>fun
>can't even summon bahamut for another 2 minutes if some faggot tank loses aggro at 1:55 and you die
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>>382110459
oh and the first 2 mounts as well
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>>382110451
or they could just make something new about the class

FFXIV Red Mage is not excatly what it was in other game either
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>>382110459
I hit 70 on DRG without casting a single spell too
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>>382110229
Now that you have all the resourcesto get GLAMMED UP you can get into the REAL endgame.

ERP!
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>>382110459
>on DRG
no need to fight you when you've already beaten yourself
enjoy spending 90 seconds to build up your full combo only for the boss to go invulnerable for a period and for you to have to start again
also enjoy being bottom of the barrel dps even if the stars align and nothing fucks your combo
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>>382110496
more fun than before
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>>382110523
Red Mage isn't like other games because Red Mage has been shit in every game.
Summoner isn't like other games because Summoner has been shit in every game.
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>>382110390
There was a time and place for it, but unfortunately because of the kind of separation of communities this game has on 4chan, and the fickle nature of moderation for XIV threads, it's best if we just avoid it.
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>I just started to level WAR because Im sick of the long ass queue times as DPS class
>so did another one I regulary play with
>soon others will follow
>adding two DPS classes actually added more new tanks than DRK did when Heavensward came out

Yoshi is a fucking genius.
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>>382110568
Wrong, it's flashier than before, but less fun. Just like Monk.
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>>382110042
Stop shilling your shitty documentary.
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>>382110451
You're dumb as hell. In every FF game with a job system SMN, unlike BLM, wasn't one dimensional, and unlike RDM, it was actually good.
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>>382109642
Ala Mhigo is getting blown up later anyway. There's a reason you're not allowed to actually go to it.
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>>382110459
I played DRG for years without casting a single spell. Beat that, fuccboi.
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>>382110382
>>382110392
#NotMySMN
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>>382110592
For every new tank, two old tanks quit because of WAR/DRK being butchered.
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>>382110459
>Fight me, faggots.
No, whatever you have might be contagious.
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>>382110296
I own additional retainers, and when buying on mog station, you're paying for a single sub's time of ownership. After 30 days, they should expire.

>>382110459
>casting a single spell
You don't play this game do you
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>>382110575
but Red Mage is good and true to the concept
SMN is not.
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What are the rules for that stupid thundercloud? Sometimes it activates after the knockback and then again every once in a while I was knocked back but the damn AOE is next to the boss?
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>>382110459
Why fight someone who isn't even playing the game?
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>>382110031
>He was wrong about people sticking to their roles

Who would have guessed
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>when you play pvp but the new exp brings out even more shitters than previously
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>>382110303
>No one actually cared about Ala Mhigo itself except the sultanas pet Bull and Lyse.
You forgot best boy Illberd!
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>>382110603
Summoner has literally just been
>red mage
>but with AOE and higher MP costs/damage
Yes, that is useful, but no, it's not unique, and it's not fun, and I benched every summoner character in every game regardless of their usefulness.
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>>382110690
He was only wrong because he ruined war and drk.
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>>382110697
Thanks for the mount!
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>>382110683
>Red Mage is good and true to the concept
If RDM is good then it's not true to the concept, and even if RDM was bad its current iteration isn't true to the concept anyway other than dualcast
>SMN is not
SMN, like Red Mage, was good but not true to the concept. Now SMN is bad and not true to the concept 90% of the time.
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>>382110715
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>>382110687
They always target people with markers.
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>>382110714
Pretty sure that by the end of it he was less caring and more BATSHIT INSANE about Ala Mhigo.

You usually don't summon a dragon to blow up what you care about.
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>>382110861
I want cute, simple horns for FFXIV
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>>382110847
I fucking knew you were going to post Golem, faggot. That's one fucking summon in the whole series that isn't just some other magic but with more AOE.
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>>382110762
I want out.
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>>382110780
The only game RDM's "jack of all trades, master of none" was really a hindrance was V and even then it learned one of the best abilities.
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>>382110714
Ilberd literally said he doesn't give a fuck about Ala Mhigo
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>>382110931
Shinryu was to blow up Garlemald
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>>382111003
I can do this all day.
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>>382110303
>sultanas pet Bull
I'd like to see more of them being adorable comrades. Won me over day 1 with her using his arm as a lift. Shippable, but I find them a lot more enjoyable as life partners.
>>
This will be your next Shinryu fight in the Omega raid.
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>>382105727
There is literally nothing wrong with taking technology from a dead civilization to advance your own.
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>benching SMN for RDM

Why would anyone handicap themselves?
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>>382111118
If I had to guess, it's more likely that Pippin would be hitting that. They don't call his free company the immortal flames for nothing.
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>>382110780
>being this wrong.

you have to play more FF
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Since yesterday I have terrible ping problems from time ti time
Anyone else has it?
Did something happened?
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>>382110324
How do I get fast mounts?
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>>382110661
People meme about this and I've still noticed nothing.
Though tank mains don't help for leveling dungeon queues.
My WAR is level 70 so I spend most time with level 70 content. I guess I might do 50/60 roulette too, but leveling is for alt-classes.
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so which expansion pack gonna let my SMN summon Alexander?


the laser beam in Type-0 was awesome and I want to shoot it.
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>>382111107
>raise all
>fire 2 all
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>>382111242
>it's a ddos sorry for the inconvinience please look forward to it gaijin
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>>382111208
Are you some kind of metafag? If you are, that's funny because SMN probably wouldn't be a part of it in the first place. And if you aren't, then why do you give a shit what people bring except some kind of validation that SMN is better than one or more of the "competition."
>>
new bread?
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>>382111324
trying to log in isnt a ddos yoshi, plus understand.
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>>382111298
Hunting seals in the three city states and Ishgard.
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>>382111323
>b-being two in one doesn't counts! Muh red mage is better!
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>>382100309
you've got to be fucking shitting me
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>>382111432
Nice strawman, faggot.
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>>382101356
>Why isn't everybody canceling his subscription?
But I did.
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I'd love it if summoner had the mechanic of rdm, but instead of using the bars for fencing, they would summon different kinds of summons.
But alas
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>>382111314
I really liked the trance idea, and it would work great with multiple primals. Imagine those faggots from the Class quests going into DWT, summon Demi-Bahamut, and you whip out your big fat Demi-Alexander. What would Alexander's trance be called?
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>>382101356
To be fair, afking just to get the chat messages is a scummy thing to do.
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>>382110680
So I have to what to cancel the retainer? Only have enough money in my bank account to pay for the sub fee?
>>
>entire server has to essentially go offline for 10 minutes randomly once a day because SE is too incompetent to fix the npc/retainer exploit for dodging the afk kick
>>
I think it's cute that the developers think I give enough of a shit about a gathering storyline to try and have me sit through this many lines of dialogue just to finish a fucking quest.
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>>382111541
Stay mad, red mage.
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>>382111659
People afk because they are afraid of the queues, which would not even be a problem anymore if people weren't so ass about not logging out in the first place.
>>
SUSANO SIDEQUESTS WHEN?
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>>382111618
>>382111314
Instead of Dreadwyrm and bahamut bullshit they should have made it all summons and it's random which comes out, they all deal same damage etc it's just for visuals.
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>>382111043
And blowing up everything en route, which would mean passing through Ala Mhigo.

>>382111541
I'll just settle this immediately.

Summoner: Glorious Ancient Allagan Magic that enslaved gods
Red Mage: Trashy Ala Mhigger Fighting that failed to keep its country from being conquered

Which one is superior is obvious.
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>>382111565
Or a mechanic where it's encouraged to cycle through pets with more unique abilities. Or different transformation modes where you directly control what you summon. There were multiple ways they could've taken the ff14 summoner and since they lacked any creative bones in their bodies and just wanted to make Wow for weebs, they recreated the warlock. Then fucked it.
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>>382111701
>download expansion
>ask refund
>play early access
sorry gooby
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>>382111795
I literally never said red mage was better, you fucking retard. I said summoner was a redundant job that did the same shit but better.
>>382111817
You're retarded too.
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>>382111817
Summoner: Filled to the brim with the whiniest cunts known to this game.

Red Mage: One of the original Final Fantasy jobs.

Checkmate SMNfags.
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>>382111810
Fuck off with this visual garbage.

The only real way to do SMN is add more egis and make trance empower them to their primal versions. Every 2 trances you get to summon Bahamut (single target) or Alexander (AoE)
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>>382111707
Explain why it's so hard to take 10 minutes away from your precious play time if you afk that long anyway? Leave room, poop, post on /v/, any one of those things will exceed 10 minutes easy.
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>>382111881
And I'm showing you all the things that red mage couldn't do but you're too dense to notice.
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>>382111943
They ain't gonna add more egi, we're stuck with the three with have and one isn't useful at all other than maybe solo but lol.
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>>382110324
are you retarded?
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>>382111943
>Incinerating Heat on a pack of mobs
Would main desu
>>382112013
By showing me a stoneskin and a bunch of damage/healing/support magic? yeah, you sure showed me, you fucking retard.
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>>382111968
That should be discounted from my sub then.
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>>382101356
>Why isn't everybody canceling his subscription?
There no alternative on the market
If turbine launches Lotro vanilla/moria servers or Sony Vanguard in the state it was before going f2p, I would play them instead
I would gladly pay sub for ToR, shame EA go full retard and killed gamed when it had 800k subs
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>>382112013
>things red mage couldn't do
You mean Golem? Red Mage can do everything else you posted.
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>>382111817
WE WUZ ALLAGANS AND SHIEEEET
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>>382112062
Could red mage do any of that, you fucking retard?
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>>382112078
So- what? 6 cents?
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>>382112151
Yes, actually, they can, aside from golem which was in one (1) game
>muh Phoenix
Dualcast Fira and Raise
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How the FUCK did they mess up the balance so badly? So many classes are just shit/not fun to play.
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>>382111968
its less about if someone is afking and more about fucking over people who are actually doing something when it happens
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>>382112320
Ya'll need to calm down.
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>>382111432
what about RDM with a SMN Subjob

>Doublecast Summon
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>>382112083
>I would gladly pay sub for ToR, shame EA go full retard and killed gamed when it had 800k subs

man, TOR was playable during 1.0 and 2.x before f2p, why they had to fuck it up, I dont think they're earning more now
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>>382112151
The whole fucking point is that summoner has always just been another fucking mage job but with flashier animations you fucking retard, they're redundant and pointless and only faggots impressed by flashy animations thought it was a really good worthwhile job
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>>382111943
Just remove the fucking egis already and give us trances and trance attacks that visually summon the primals/egis for a brief instant who then make attacks. No pets, just actual fucking summon attacks like classic FF.
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