Buyers remorse general

I didn't buy it.

I haven't touched my Switch in about a month.

>>382069331
I returned it after 3 days of playing.

I like it.
It's fun.
Min Min is my gal.

It plays like a shitty for honor, and I hated for honor.

>ITT: Falseflaggers
Nothing new under the sun

>>382069331

Yeah, this game is basically a 4/10. No depth really beyond the different types of arms. Only moves are punch, grab, block, and dodge/dash. AI blatantly cheats. It's just not fun.

I like the characters and all, but it got boring real quick.

I'm having trouble playing it. It's fucking hard.

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I have never bought an exclusive just because it's an exclusive.

What really boggles my mind is most people refuse to acknowledge when they recognize a game will be a shallow waste of their time.

They just buy it anyway.

You knew it was going to be like this just from the first footage of it and the testfires.

You knew it wasn't going to last longer than a few days tops.

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I pre-ordered it

>>382070070
AI blatantly cheats
THIIIS I literally can't git gud because there is no way to practice techs.


That and online is super leggy and punches never actually connect.

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I like it a lot. What I don't like is how all the fighters have access to all ARMS. It'd be so much easier to figure everything out and work on matchups if they just had their default ARMS. All ARMS is going to kill this game competitively.

I'm having fun with it

>>382069331
>>382069886
>>382070070
>>382070107
This is what you get for playing a game meant for children./

>>382070360
No you're not.

>>382070325
>All ARMS is going to kill this game competitively.

You're limited to basic ARMS in ranked, aren't you?

This OP reeks of shitposter.

>>382070429
back the fuck off!?!

>>382070396
your a fucking faggot dude

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>>382070292
Don't remind me.
I put up with a lot of shit in this series, but goddamn I fucking hate this game.

It could've been good, but no they had to fucking force their motion controls for no goddamn reason.

>>382070396
(You)

Dead game

>>382070431
You can use anything you want. Which means everyone is just using the best characters with the best ARMS. If defaults were only allowed then people would have to make use of what their character has and the game would be a lot more balanced.

>>382070527
There are much bigger problems with this game than the controls. Of course I had no trouble with them, so maybe that's easy for me to say.

>>382070890
>There are much bigger problems with this game than the controls

Well yeah, but the motion controls is what ultimately made a lot of people pan it.
Also the fact it's a shittier version of SF64, even though we already had a good port on the 3DS

>>382070890
It has more problems, yes, but the controls are still bad.
There is a reason why everyone loved the gyro in Splatoon, and hated it in Zero.

Is ribbon still top-tier? Haven't played since the testpunch.

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My Wii U in general since Nintendo is cucking me

>tfw I haven't touched my Switch in days
I think the rose tinted glasses are wearing off. When I save up enough, I'm investing in a PS4.

>>382069331
I agree with everything there except buying it because it was an exclusive and having nothing else to play. I have a PS4 and a PC, as well. I bought Arms because it looked interesting. It's decent, but it doesn't have much lasting appeal on a casual level and core problems hold it back from being fun as even a sort of amateur pseudo-competitive game, let alone full blown esports or whatever Nintendo hopes it can become. Unfortunately I don't think this game can be fixed by content updates and patches. The core of Splatoon was more fun, it was just light on content and modes. Adding more characters and arms and stages won't do much for Arms. I think adding more arms will make the game worse, in fact, and the first character a month after the game comes out being Max Brass is incredibly disappointing as someone who was looking forward to what sort of support this game was going to get. Max Brass is barely new, and even if they do add a character a month, we're looking at two months after launch until we see something new, and Splatoon will already be out. It needed to get a foothold before Splatoon came out to survive.

I do hope it sold well regardless, because I have high hopes for what a sequel could be like if they actually try and refine what they have here. But there isn't anybody I could currently recommend Arms to.

>>382069815
>Buying consoles in their first year

You only have yourself to blame

>>382071592
What interests you on PS4? Because I find it hard to recommend, but I have a PS3, Vita and a decent PC.

>>382072065
knack

>>382072065
The Last of us 2

>>382072065
...Honestly, I couldn't point to any one game. I don't know why I want one. I just remember having decent fun with my PS2. Never got a PS3.

The main reason I like Nintendo is because it's usually as far from realistic as possible. It's cartoony, solid, fun. But they're starving a guy here.

>>382070063
This. How many times is /v/ going to say that its going to flop just be wrong again.

Its sad at this point really

>>382069886
You cannot return open software. Nigger.

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>>382071407
>>382070292
>>382069331
I think see a pattern here

>>382070527
There is literally nothing wrong with Zero's controls, especially if you turn on the alternative fire mode which makes them more intuitive than any other control scheme in the series.

I thought Zero needed more missions and have some actual on-rails bosses, but I didn't hate it. It's miles and miles better than any other post-64 abomination.

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Remember to have barq put ninjara's into the trash.

>>382074643
>There is literally nothing wrong with Zero's controls,
>everyone else is wrong except for me

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>>382070070
>>382070306
>AI cheats
Or you two are just big shitters

>buying it day 1
It was obvious the main game was going to be shallow as fuck with DLC dripped out like Splatoon 1
Either way, it's going to be dead once Splatoon 2 is out

>>382074824
Okay, lemme rephrase. The controls probably make the game unplayable if you're shit, can't adapt to anything, and/or didn't know about the alternate setting. Happy?

>>382075114
You're just wrong. People were fine with Splatoons gyro and hated it in Zero, for good reason

>>382075114
Nah, man. The game had shit gyro.
64 3D did it better.

>>382075251
Other way around for me. I hated the gyro in Splatoon but liked it in Zero. Like I said, most people were probably frustrated because they couldn't keep their reticle centered properly, but if you flip the alternate controls on the reticle actually re-aligns itself every time you release the fire button and makes the game control like a dream. There's no reason not to use it and I can't imagine the kind of person that would have trouble with that control scheme.

>>382075447
Sup Cody?

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>>382075447
Splatoon's gyro is a million times better for the simple fact that it doesn't make the player split their attention across two screens

>>382074643
>There is literally nothing wrong with Zero's controls
Hey Cody.

>>382070292
>Play co-op with friend.
>Having a decent time since it hasn't hit us that it's just a gimped remake of 64.
>CUTSCENE
>Pilot cannot see what is going on, just kind of stuck drifting in whatever direction you were last in while the Gunner sees all the important shit.

I'm still baffled by this issue, it seriously feels like it wasn't play tested.

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>>382074806
Also have him place all min mins in bin bins.

If you can get someone with a good connection or in the same room with you, I think the game is really fun. I like how more patient play is rewarded then doing some 50 hit combo that lasts forever. We have enough of those types of fighting games. Though, unlocking arms seems needlessly tedious as fuck. When I unlocked some of them I just figured that it unlocked for all the characters as well. But nope. You have to do it for each and every fucker.

>>382074643
>There is literally nothing wrong with gyro worse than other Wii U games and having your visual information split between two screens of varying size that possibly results in you holding up the controller to the TV like an idiot

>>382075614
>>382075657
>Say that you liked Zero
>Hit with the Cody boogeyman meme
Every time with you GC babies. Go play your prized shitheap known as Assault.

>>382075939
>they made a stupid assumption
>therefore I'm entitled to make one
Uh.

>>382075939
Do you really think you're gonna strike a cord with Assault? Such a small number of people like that one.

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>>382075939
Cody posts about that shit constantly, dumbass. He also posts anonymous sometimes.

Also, I'm a Sony fan. I'm in this thread to laugh at you fucks.

>>382075939
>defending Zero
>calls another game a prized shitheap
Assault's mediocre as fuck, but at least it has a multiplayer mode. Zero's got nothing since Guard is standalone.

There's definitely balance problems regarding the different ARMS you can use, stun and freeze are useless comapred to shock because they're all stuns but shock is objectively better.

However, there's still a lot of potential for mastering movement and the psychology of the game, and angling punches into opponents can be really tricky if you have a small ARM

I like it a lot, but yeah, not perfect

>>382075646
Neither does Zero, you just have to press Select.

>>382076191
>Horizon
Holy fuck I forgot this game existed

>>382076246
That limits your field of vision.
And Splatoon doesn't have that problem, so not an argument.

>>382076191
>aligning yourself with a company

yikes

>>382076348
>That limits your field of vision.
Anon, you can't focus on more than one screen at once anyway.

>>382076485
Yeah, that's why the game should be balanced around one screen in third person view, like SF64. The dual screen shit is just inherently bad for gameplay

>>382069982
I love MEMES

>>382076485
And if you're in first person view you'll be bumping into shit above you.
Dumbass.

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>tfw handed it back in and put the money towards Splatoon 2
ARMS was fun for about a few hours, but then it just gets boring.

>>382076353
Nah.

I'd buy a Nu-tendo console if they released something good. I'm not interested in trash graphics and
shit gimmicks.

I would have bought it if it wasn't $60, and wasn't released so soon before Splatoon

>>382076558
>The dual screen shit is just inherently bad for gameplay
It's just different camera angles. It would work in the exact same way if it was in a conse with just one screen.

>>382076485
>tfw Command handled two screens better than Zero

>>382076716
No, if it was just one screen then the first person view wouldn't be needed for aiming shit, like in Dodora

>>382076716
*console

It seems like using a controller gives you better movement options but using motion controllers gives you better offensive ones. Though, some of the motion control stuff is a bit of a mind fuck for me for some reason. Stuff like tilting left or right to move but also throwing a punch at the same time while also curving it and then going back to tilting just never feels natural and I tend to fuck it up with my left hand the most. I kind of hate how you can't have the best of both worlds on a particular control scheme.

>>382076605
not sure if you're joking, but for honor is a joke and garbage. I figured this out during beta, it looks beautiful, but the gameplay is lacking a lot. 1v1 ok, other than that it's just a gank fest with dynasty warriors going on in the background.

>>382069331
I fucking warned you, moron. They gave us six demo days and that was more than enough to tell me Arms low number of moves and unlockable gloves for every character was going to kill variety.

>>382076771
The game just runs two camera angles at the same time, it's not like the controls or your weapons change depending on which camera you're using. First person just gives you a narrower reticle, like aiming in a TPS or FPS.

>tfw too busy playing 3DS to even care
I'm gonna go play a few ranked matches, that's all I ever really want to do. Maybe some grand prix and training if I really get stomped online.

>>382077092
They intentionally made some things harder to hit in the third person view, so the player would be forced to use the gamepad, if it didn't exist they wouldn't have done that

>play against two others online
>other guy and me duke it out
>other nigger hides in corner
>other nigger wins
why the fuck did they think that would be fun?

>>382077237

1v1v1 is such a piece of shit. I'm appalled that the devs thought it'd be anything but a clusterfuck.

>>382077237
>>382077430
You're not forced to play it.

>>382077208
You're doing the same thing in both cameras, simultaneously. Your field of vision and reticle are wider in third person so naturally it's harder to aim.
>forced to use the gamepad
How are they forced to use the gamepad if you can swap cameras by pressing a single button?

>>382077237
pigskin cracker BITCH!

>>382077237
That reminds me, how the fuck do you change your aim in this shit? I see other players move the camera around but I can't do that shit.

>>382077480
>Your field of vision and reticle are wider in third person so naturally it's harder to aim.
You're being intentionally obtuse.
The first person view in SF64 was completely optional, it was never required for precise aiming, because they balanced the game around the third person view. Zero is balanced around the first person view, the player is more or less forced to use it.
The entire reason that Aquarosa has a locked camera angle in third person is so the player HAS to use the gamepad.

>lv7 hedloc
Fuck this game

What the fuck is wrong with Hedloc? His Level 7 form is complete Devil Kazuya bullshit.

>>382077710
How does any of that contradict that the game would be the same if it was in a console with just one screen? You can swap cameras.

A few questions:

Why on earth didn't they port Smash to the Switch as a launch title? As it is, the Switch only really has Breath of the Wild. Sure, Mario Kart is good if you haven't played 8 yet but ARMS is laughably shallow. What were they thinking? Is there a port in the works?

Why would Nintendo continue to push motion controls with the Joy-Cons but not include any sort of analogue for the Wii point controls? Because now, it's impossible for Nintendo to rerelease or port most Wii/WiiU titles. The ones they can will likely require a large amount of reworking to port, like the Epic Yarn games and Mario Galaxy.

Why did Nintendo create the plug and play SNES instead of just releasing SNES ROMs on the Switch's eShop? Now they're just cannibalizing their market. I, for one, would have loved to have bought Earthbound on my Switch. Now that I think of it, do they have any idea how much buzz they could have gotten by making the English-localized Mother 3 a Switch eShop exclusive?

Why would Nintendo release a console that had 3 games on release, with only one major release in three months, with the console's flagship title being multiplat with the WiiU, and restrict the number of units created for the American market? They have to know that the Switch is a niche item in the games market right now, but still the people that actually desire one have huge issues getting one.

>>382078062
Swapping cameras wouldn't be a necessity to gameplay if there was just one screen.
Iwata tasked Miyamoto with making a game that made the gamepad a necessity, Zero is the result of that.

>>382070253

It's a new fighting game series. You have to start somewhere. So it's not unexpected for it to be bare bones.

>>382078114
They wanted to give ARMS room to breathe and they're doing fine without Smash right now. It's definitely coming next year I think.

>>382078148
But the gamepad is not a necessity, you can play the whole thing just looking at your TV or your gamepad. You can swap cameras and looking at the two screens at the same time is not even humanly possible.

>>382078470
>Mental gymnastics.

>"It's supposed to be shit. Don't you see? They don't have to make a good game. It's the first game. Why are you so entitled?"

Just fucking end yourself, toddler.

I don't regret buying Arms. I think most of the backlash is that there hasn't been a game like this and people aren't willing to get good at the mechanics. I'm having plenty of fun with it still. Just ignore the motion controls.

>>382077703
Any face button in motion controls, or up on d-pad/tilt right stick in button controls.

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>>382078575
Swapping cameras was never a necessity until Zero. You are just being an autist.

>>382069331
I used to hate it until I started to get good at it, Now I really enjoy it

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>>382069331
>>382069886
>>382070070
>>382070107
>>382076670
You should have waited for Pokken DX, which at least has enough competitive meat to it to keep you invested for years (pic related, and i'm still one of the weakest players at my locals) if you wanna git gud, since it's basically just a traditional competitive fighting game.

ARMS lacks both casual single player content and lacks gameplay with real significant depth.

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>>382078613
>general reaction before people get the hang of the controls and find a character/ARMS that they like
>"this game is fucking trash; literally $60 shovelware."
>get the hang of it
>"this game is fucking great, dude."

>>382078613
The motion controls feel kinda weird at first, but the regular controls are also pretty off to me. I might just try to get the hang of the motion.

>>382078987
Wait, I thought pokken was just a pokemon casual babby shit like Smash? I hate "serious level" fighting games since I'm not into fighting games in general. Was gonna buy Pokken just because Empoleon is the shit, but if it's just going online to get my shit kicked by turbo autist street fighter 2 (turbo) chads then I'm out

>>382077469
In party mode you pretty much are

>>382078942
Again, how does that contradict that Zero would work the same way if it was in a console with just one screen?

>>382079009
Not me, I've always liked the game since the test punches.

>>382079162

I really tried to git gud with the motion controls, but I kept struggling with movement in the right direction and guarding when I needed to.

>>382078987
The one thing I don't like about Pokken is Field Phase. I don't know how the fuck anyone lands a hit on anyone, every move takes a billion years to come out.

>>382079249
Because Iwata wouldn't have asked him to make the dual screen shit.
SF64 doesn't have dual screens and camera swapping is never required.
Zero has dual screens and camera swapping is required.
Stop being a stubborn asshole.

>>382079393
I don't blame you, because the movement does feel pretty weird. I'm still having trouble with it since I only just started. But I find it more difficult to aim my punches with the traditional controls.

>>382079393

I feel the same way; I loved it from the first testpunch. I played it in every testpunch that I could and I've got 45 hours on the real game.

>>382079172
Pokken is an actual competitive fighting game, but it's also pretty accessible to newcomers who aren't used to them, without sacrificing the upper skill ceiling.

Basically, it's like what SFV was trying to do, except done right. You'll still have fun with it even if you aren't super good as long as you don't mind playing online. It's got barely any single player content, though, like ARMS.

>>382069331
Deal with your decisions child

>>382079172
It has no competitive scene, you will be fine.

>>382079418
Then it wouldn't be the Star Fox Zero we have today, it would be another game. Zero is built with two camera angles in mind, if you have one or two screens is ultimately irrelevant.

I like it. It can be really satisfying when using the motion controls, but when it/I fuck up with them, I get aneurysm inducingly mad. Still, it burns calories and will tide me over til I can become addicted to Splatoon 2, so it is doing its job

>>382079891
>Zero is built with two camera angles in mind
And that's why its entire premise is inherently flawed.

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>>382077237
>if the tertiary nigger doesn't sit in the corner the other two people telepathically agree to double team you

>>382069331
I really hope it gets a sequel. They're on to something here but they didn't quite nail it. Still having fun despite the flaws tho.

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>>382069331

I'm already bored of it because of the exploits. I keep facing people that can dash and punch constantly, which makes it literally impossible to beat them. They basically skate around so fast your camera can't keep up for you to try to hit them and they constantly throw punches so their RUSH meter fills instantly. It's an unbeatable K-style-esque move that ruined the entire point of the game and, knowing nintendo, will never be patched.

>>382079886
>It has no competitive scene

Except it's at basically every single FGC major there is and gets good entrant numbers? It's not SFV, Injustice, marvel, or smash level big, but it's more active then KI, KOF, GG, and Blazblue.

>>382079972
Yes, not because of dual screens since you're doing the exact same thing in both at the same time.

>>382079993

I haven't played much Party Mode lately because I got so fucking sick of being double teamed in 1v1v1 and I've been working my way up to Grand Prix 7.

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>>382079993

>there's two japs
>you're not
>they instantly double team you every single time without fail

>>382071271

nothing has changed.

Top Tier

Ribbon Girl
Kid Cobra
Ninjara

Good Tier

Spring Man
Min Min
Twintelle

Okay Tier
Mechanica
Byte and Barq

Shit Tier
Master Mummy

Helix Tier
Helix

>Fighting game sucks

Whoaaa

>>382080317
I kind of want to just go into Ranked, but I only just got the game and I'd get my ass kicked.

>>382080529
>Okay Tier
>the cool ones

wow that sucks

>>382078860

>Bart is Ninjara and Lisa is RG

>>382080601

If you can beat Level 4 GP then you'll do alright in Ranked.

>>382080000

>didn't quite nail it
>have a fighting game with obvious lore behind it including a big mystery with Headlok
>LOL NEVER EXPLAINED JUST FIGHT XD

>>382080769
I've only won a single 1v1 in Party mode. I might need a lot of practice.

>>382080529

>best characters in a boxing game are the ones with the best mobility

colour me not surprised

>>382069331
I don't know why you're suprised. It's a fighting game, they get boring incredibly fast and there's infinitely better non-gimick fighting games on offer anyway

Can't wait for Splatoon to eat this game's lunch so it can fade into obscurity with weeks

>>382079172
>Was gonna buy Pokken just because Empoleon is the shit, but if it's just going online to get my shit kicked by turbo autist street fighter 2 (turbo) chads then I'm out

Pokken's kind of weird. Making a misread can really fuck you up, even default combos can deal a fair amount of damage.

The only real thing you have to worry about it whether or not they fixed the online from the WiiU version.

>>382082178
>even default combos can deal a fair amount of damage.

Sure but not going for optimal ones is still going to fuck you over against people who know what they are doing, along with lacking fundamentals

>>382082519
I don't know about the new characters, but most combos are pretty easy, unless you're playing Garchomp.

>>382079172
I don't get what you mean? Even if it was a casual baby game you'd still get your ass kicked online if you aren't willing to learn from your losses.

fuck you guys I like it

>>382069331
Honestly that game is fucking gr8 I dont know what your problem is man

>jumping when I have super
Stop that

>>382083852
NO

>>382079176
You aren't forced to play party mode. And if you are such a fag, just stick to ranked anyway.

>>382080069
Jesus, /v/ is so bad that basic gameplay is too much for them... I'm glad discussion is staying on /vg/ where people actually try a little bit.

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preordered this pos to support the devs. Oh my god this game is a piece of shit. The online community didn't even last a week. They released an unfinished game and now they are releasing a console version with the pc still being broken as shit.

Honestly though...this game looked fucking rad with the trailers etc etc. I thought it was going to be at least ok because the devs are the EYE guys.

>>382083090
Weavile's are also complicated, since most of his combos that go over like 150 damage or so (that don't use ice punch, anyways, but ice punch is super unsafe, so) require chaining icicle crash hits together.

I don't play machamp or sceptile but a lot of their combos seem pretty long too, but machamp also has plenty of single moves that do like 200 damage.

>>382078470
There's no way this gets a sequel. It got shit out so switch owners have something to buy in the first year

>>382084379
>Expecting EYE devs to release a complete and coherent game

Nigger, what?

>3machoor5u /v/ hates a Nintendo exclusive

Oh no, how ever will Nintendo recover from all the sales. Surely this is a shock, fedora-wearing Mountain Dewritos ponyfuckers hate a good game. Oh no. Nintendo is doomed.

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>>382084379
>Everyone bought it expecting a L4D coop game
>It's Republican Commando 2 with a tacked-on, limited multiplayer

DON'T ADVERTISE YOUR GAME AS A GAME TO PURGE XENO SCUM WITH YOUR BROS IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE MULTIPLAYER A PIECE OF SHIT

>>382078987
How the fuck can you play a game for nearly 1500 hours and still be bad at it? It's just not adding up.

>>382085372
It's not that i'm bad. I'm not, it's that the game has that much depth that there's still that many people better then you by that point.

1400 hours is nothing for a fighting game in terms of actually being good enough to win tournaments.

>>382080529
Someone has got to explain to me what makes Kid Cobra so good. Is it the fast jumps? Before he gets charged he's super sluggish (aside from jumping), and his charged dashes seem so situational because you have to charge and they only last as long as your arms would stay charged. When I played around with him it felt like off of a charge I had to choose between throwing out a punch or a sneaky slide, trying to get do both would result in me getting hit charging up or doing a very predictable rushed dash->punch sequence before I lost it. It isn't like a bunch of other characters' regular dodges aren't totally sufficient for getting out of the way of stuff either. Sliding under stuff also just seems riskier than you need to be. In spite of all of this I can't deny having trouble against some Kid Cobras in ranked, but I can't identify what it is about them.

>>382072267
you mean knack and knack 2 right???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnvxuDUVJrk&app=desktop