If you got to banish one of these from gaming forever, which

>>382065993
Movie games

Movie games

>>382065993
open world because it would fucking DESTROY the number of early access garbage titles on steam
movie games dont even bother me, at least you know what you're getting with them

>>382065993
>Remember kids, Uncharted doesn't have shooting sequences.
Could've mentioned Quantic Dream games, which incidentally is my answer.

>>382065993
Movie games
Open world games have the chance to be the best games, they just aren't. Yet.

Movie games. For the reasons >>382066234
said.

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>>382066234
>Open world games have the chance to be the best games

>>382066294
Starsector and warband are bad games?
STALKER too?

>>382066371
Never heard of those. I only play AAA games.

>>382066294
When whatever generation of AAA developers finally leaves the scene, it will give some of the younger folks who actually attention to subtle details a chance.

Old people < Youth

Tough choice. Open world games in their current state are mostly shit thanks to devs like Ubisoft. However, movie games are almost always shit because they offer very little in the way of replay value.

So my vote goes to movie games.

movie games easily.

Are you shitting me? Movie games all day long. Fuck those games.

>>382065993
Japanese games. All of them except rapelay

>>382065993

Open world without hesitation. The open world meme has obliterated the concept of smart level design.

>>382066234
This

Open world

Open world. Most of the most boring games I've played are open world and are multiplying faster than movie games.

>>382066598
open world this gen is the first person shooter of last gen

>>382065993
>movie "games" like Uncharted which are basically just cutscene after cutscene with some QTEs sprinkled in

Mate, Uncharted 4 has more gameplay in it than 90% of AAA single player games that aren't open world.

Open World Games

Most games can be boiled down to "go somewhere and then cutscene" if you try hard enough but open world "walk to where the level starts" autism is a league of shit all its own.

>>382065993
I'd banish little bitches like the OP

>>382065993
Politics
That's right, There's bigger problems than you crying about open world games.

I don't know. Uncharted 1 is short and I still got 250 headshots in one campaign. Sounds like a fair bit of gameplay to me.

Open world is okay when it's done like a Bethesda style game, just not in EVERY game. There's nothing wrong with smaller well crated levels.

>>382066979
>artificial gameplay

Movie games.

neither since I enjoy both

>>382065993
Open world games. As of right now, most devs use just make them for brownie points. It allows them to get away with not having smart or even decent level design. Also exploration is dog shit in 90% of open world games especially since devs just copy & paste the same shit just to fill their maps with markers.

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>/v/ idolizes the Metal Gear Solid series
>/v/ also claims movie games are bad

>Watch a video of a game not on your platform
>It's a movie now

JRPGs since even movie games have more gameplay

Define open world and movie games for me. I need more context before I could answer.

For example is Bloodborne and other RPGS open world? Is Fallout open world? I mean technically yes but I'd hate to put those in the same category as GTA or FarCry or something.

And then again what exactly is a movie game? I don't like Quantam Dream type games, but Uncharted games have puzzles and platforming and shooting so what makes it a movie game? Is it just a game with high quality cutscenes? A game with QTE? Cause then RE4 might count as the same genre and I'd hate to lose that.

>>382065993
MOVIE GAMES ONE HUNDRED TIMES

>>382067349
Just nu-/v/ who get triggered by Sony winning

>>382067157
the gameplay may be artificial but your autism is real

>>382065993
Neither, I think both have a place even if i'm inclined to enjoy movie games far less.

Just because a genre has been garbage by majority up until now doesn't mean someone creative won't come along and blow away expectations. Stifling creativity is a shit idea desu.

>>382065993
as much as i hate the saturation of open world, i'll go for movie games.

>>382067349
1. Metal Gear Solid cutscenes are cool

2. The Gameplay is actually fun and not just an excuse for cutscenes.

3. The cutscenes give you a break from the intense gameplay.

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>HURRR DURRR GAME HAS CUTSCENES SO IT'S A MOVIE HURRR STEAM RELEASE WHEN

>>382067349
I'm 28, the only metal gear game I've played is Phantom Pain, only mario game I've played is Mario Kart 64. /v/ overestimates how interested people are in these titles.

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>>382067802
Well since one random retard on /v/ hasn't played Mario or Metal Gear they aren't important landmark titles of the video game industry.

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>pimple faced weaboos parroting uncharted movie meme despite never playing the game.

>>382067709
In the Uncharted side, Nathan Drake is not picking up any items/power ups. That webm makes a moot point of the argument. It still stands. Movie game.

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>>382065993
I don't think you know what movie games are

>>382067709
Crash is trash.

>>382066181
Except Quantic Dream games are of quality in what they set out to do because they hire actual experts in the field of film. Uncharted and TLOU are failed filmmakers making commercial successes that are artistic failures.

>>382068028
The uncharted side also doesn't show off the puzzle elements, stealth, exploration or gunplay.

>>382067907
Never enjoyed em, Civilizations, Might and Magic, Everquest, Unreal Tournament, Blood Rayne, Crazy Taxi that shit was more my speed. Fuck whatever the the landmarks are, never offered what I was looking for.

>>382066462
>When whatever generation of AAA developers finally leaves the scene, it will give some of the younger folks who actually attention to subtle details a chance.

Not him but that's literally the exact opposite of how society is progressing.

>>382068305
>I didn't play them so they don't matter
nu-/v/ is so fucking cancerous.

>>382067157
you just might be retarded

>>382068436
2006, Neo-/v/

>>382065993
Games don't have to be fun to be enjoyable.

>>382068131
>Except Quantic Dream games are of quality in what they set out to do
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>382068505
>I'm an oldfag guise I s-swear!!

Movie games obviously. There are genuinely good open world games, and even mediocre samey shit can be fun in a way movie games will never be.

>>382065993
Movie. Open comes in different varieties so that'd be silly to get rid of.

Well if you wanna be a fag about it, no more (you)'s for you.

>>382065993
Why would I "banish" games others enjoy? I just won't play them.

>>382068569
>implying TLOU has a better story than ANY quantic dream game

You have to go back. Even campy ass Indigo Prophecy is a technically better written story.

>>382065993
But I like both of these when executed properly

>>382065993
open world games

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>Calling Uncharted a movie game when it has a multiplayer

>>382068686
This is an ok bait, solid 6.5/10. I'll give you this (You)

>>382068686
They never could get to that level again, even then the game had some major flaws.

>>382068758
The vast majority of the assets are dedicated to single-player.

>>382068798
>muh daughter is dead
>muh replacement daughter
>muh generic post apocalypse decision making

Such complicated themes. I see the light now. You are right and a true student of writing.

>>382065993
Movie games
Also the entire concept of QTEs in general.
QTEs are a boring, bullshit, lazy excuse for game design.

What the fuck don't you like about open world?

>Open world games are chill if exploration is rewarding (Fallout 3/NV, Crackdown)
>movie games are fun and entertaining like a summer blockbusters (Recent Telltale and Naughty Dog games)
Since I enjoy both I don't think I'd get rid of either, but if I had to make a choice I'd do away with shittily implemented Open world games

>>382065993
You chose a bad example of a movie game. Only one of them in the entire series can maaaybe be considered one.

>>382068828
Regardless, Beyond Two Souls, Omikron and Heavy rain are all better written than TLOU.

>>382065993
Uncharted 4 was the first time Naughty Dog overstepped the bounds of how much downtime/non-gameplay is acceptable for a game.

The endless bland climbing sections felt like such a chore, as did the Gone Home-esque parts where you just walk around a house and look at objects. With that said, it doesn't have "cutscene after cutscene", which is honestly actually the biggest problem. If it wasn't constantly insisting that you keep pressing buttons to walk/climb while the characters talk the game would be more enjoyable.

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>>382068131
>Quantic Dream games are of quality in what they set out to do because they hire actual experts in the field of film.
Fuck off David Cage. There hasn't been a single Quantic Dream that was even of passable quality story-wise. All of them have shitty stories, and since they're games focused purely on telling a story that's semi-interactive, they are all terrible games.

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>>382068758
DELET THIS
IT DOESNT FIT MY NARRATIVE
DELEET REEEEEEEE

>>382065993
Open world because it's actively ruining franchises I like.

>>382065993

Obviously movie games.

>>382067663
you need to be 18+ to use this website

Open world games because both can (and often are) cancer but at least normies can see that SOME movie games are shit (i.e the order 1886), and in return something happens.
Instead even the shittiest of the shittiest open world game gets praise and 4 cuadrillion sequels because normies are too fucking retarded to see the game is shit (skyrim, fallout4, assassins creed, mgsv, etc etc)

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>>382067349
That's because Metal Gear Solid is different.

In MGS you have enjoyable gameplay. If you want you can skip all the cutscenes and still have a fun game. The story and gameplay are seperated most of the time. MGS1 and 2 even feature tons of missions you can do without any kind of story.

What people here dislike are ~cinematic~ games where the gameplay seems to be an afterthought just to provide some sort of fake interaction to call it a game. Like the game will make you watch a cutscene but you have to mash a button in a QTE. Or you have to follow a character for several minutes while he explains some story elements for you. Games like Uncharted are basically just huge QTEs.

Open world games because the Uncharted series is better than 99% of all other games period.

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>>382068131
>Except Quantic Dream games are of quality in what they set out to do because they hire actual experts in the field of film

>>382069127
>N-no b-because I don't like what happens!

That's not how it works. Save yourself some energy and go back to your Resident Evil movies.

>>382067709
Nice bait.

If I could skip every cut scene in movie games I wouldn't mind it so much.

>>382068686
>Even campy ass Indigo Prophecy is a technically better written story.
I like the part where bugs attacked Lucas in the middle of the office in a dream and it's never explained. I also like the part where literal fucking cyber-aliens come out of nowhere pretending to be a dead old blind telepathic lady to attack Lucas because they want the Indigo Child. I also like when two statues came to life to try and kill Lucas. I like the part of the story where Lucas has the chroma or whatever the fuck it's called that comes literally out of nowhere and it's Mayan or some shit and has nothing to do with the rest of the story and Lucas was just born with super-powers. Or the part where the whole world is going under extreme ice age in a matter of days and it's never explained why. Or how you team up with hobos to take the Indigo Child to a portal in a military base to save the world.

Indigo Prophecy is a fucking hot incoherent garbage mess.

>>382068131
Shut the fuck up, the only good cuantic dream game is heavy rain
The rest have all sucked and detroit, after the most recent trailer, looks like its gonna fucking suck too

>>382067349
The problem is when you transform gameplay into cutscene. Metal Gear doesn't do that. Uncharted does it.

>>382069347
>I don't agree with it so it is bait

>>382068758
>"I have never seen a 'buddy cop' movie."

>>382065993
Movie games. I hate that everything has become open world ADHD/autism simulators but I still play and tolerate such games.

Movie games though... barf. If you can play the game on YouTube then it is not a game. I honestly don't even think the Uncharted was ever even really that popular. Every single game has been bundled with hardware for long periods of time which inflate their sales totals. Anecdotal evidence of my own, but a couple people I know picked up Uncharted 4 without knowing anything about it (even though one of them had the collection which they never got into) and they hated it because it just isn't really "video game" material. They both gave similar answers and didn't like the characters or theme or understand how this was popular. And they complained about the shooting comparing it to Gears which it is objectively inferior to.

>>382069312
>Or you have to follow a character for several minutes while he explains some story elements for you.

Not him but that statement can apply to the Half Life series nd people generally like and praise those games here.

As much as people bag on Movie games, I think Open World games are now the new bloat of today. Most of them are no substance Ubisoft / Assassins Creed tier games with no unique twists, gameplay, or story to them. There's only been a handful

>>382065993
Open world at least brings something to the table.
Cutscenes are just a crutch for storytelling.

You know? Uncharted only "affected" mediocre series and that was all.

Thanks to the open world meme even MGS became generic as fuck.

>>382069619
This, at least movie games can have nice sequences and are somewhat entertaining.
Open world games are so fucking bland and repetitive and long and by-the-numbers it fucking hurts

Its like what happened with shooters, such potential for guns and concepts and crazy shit and speeds, but all of them turned into brown slow realistic war shooters.
Open world games are similar but nowadays they are all collect, craft, climb the tower and have shitty combat

>>382065993
Movie games. Open world isn't a problem. The issue is that it needs to be dialed back about 10 years. We went too far, too fast. Games aren't ready or capable of having worlds as big as what is generated today. They don't have enough shit to put in there that isn't just copy paste. Open worlds shouldn't be any bigger than Gothic 2 at this point. Also, Metroidvanias should be larger and more intricate while still having sequence breaking. That genre really deserves a revisit by people with an actual budget to throw at it.

>>382069427
I agree. And TLOU is even worse.

>>382068758
This is the same counter I've seen for years and it is also flawed. "Multiplayer is pure gameplay so your argument is invalid". Pure shitty "gameplay" that nobody uses. These are single player games. Their multiplayer is an afterthought just to tick a box that says they have it.

>>382068097

>Crash is trash.

Crash is trash. Real fuckin' clever. You can make rhymes about Crash. Real fuckin' clever. It's real funny, real cute. I really like that, Crash is trash. Did you think of that on your own?

>>382069574
I guess bundles would probably count as sales, No shortage of used copies though, might be onto something.

>>382066451
fucking normie

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>>382069491
>The problem is when you transform gameplay into cutscene. Metal Gear doesn't do that

>>382070774
>Implying you didn't cry with the rest of us in the theater during this scene

>>382065993
>movie "games" like Uncharted which are basically just cutscene after cutscene with some QTEs sprinkled in
Do people even play the games they try to troll?

>>382069927
>Their multiplayer is an afterthought just to tick a box that says they have it.
>Multiplayer has been around since the 2nd game
>7 game modes including survival mode
>T-t-that dosen't count because I think it's shit!

>>382071985
No. That would miss the point.

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>>382065993
>People actually didn't like Uncharted 4.
>But you'll find plenty of defenders for that trashcan TLoU which had asinine pseudo-stealth trash gameplay and a cookie cutter, tired plot.

This board is utter fucking garbage, I swear to god. /v/ isn't one person, but still. Your tastes are absolute cock.

>>382065993
open world hands down.

Most of the time it's filled with stupid AI and WoW style fetch quests.

The meme of 'freedom' lets them get away with the laziest game design possible.

>>382074021
At least TLoU doesn't throw constant waves of enemies at you.

>>382069464
>Shut the fuck up, the only good cuantic dream game is heavy rain
What? Heavy Rain was just as terrible as the others. They're not even bad for being movie games, they just all have really shitty writing.

>>382065993
Why no both?

Can I do both? Because removing both sounds great.

If not, then... open world. If only to taste the salt.

>>382065993
Open world. No hesitation.

Open world games today are endless todo lists full of #content and activities just to pad the hour count. They're boring and bloated and seriously, fuck Ubisoft.