If someone ever did a game with authentic swordplay/fencing,

Seeing how any game with "swordplay" either has forced attack animations or people spinning like helicopters for maximum hitbox I'd be be very cautious of a game claiming to have authentic swordplay/fencing.

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>>382060578
It will sadly never happen

>>382060578
>authentic swordplay
Kingdom Come Deliverance does it. Its utter shit and boring. Real life is not as fun as video games otherwise I would fucking play real life.

>fencing
Did fencing, shit sport. Tap a hand to win.

>>382060757
>top of the line late period exceptional quality armor maintained with modern science
>against the shit 99% of knights
Wew, bias much. Most knights got obliterated by just falling over.

>>382060715
Wii Sports Resort

I main crossbow and kill you from distance.

Nice swordplaying huh.

>>382061064
Fug you im going to call the pope and get you banned

>>382060757
>m'lady: come over
>I can't I'm busy
>m'lady: the Turks are besieging Vienna
>mfw

>>382060578
real people fighting is boring, so no.

>>382060838
Except real fencing is fun.

>>382060578
Authentic anything is always shit. It turns out people play video games because real life is boring.

>>382060838
>Tap a hand to win.
Confirmed for never even doing actual fencing.

>>382061887
And yet you have graphics whores...

>>382061560
Speak for yourself, pleb

>>382060757
I was expecting something to hit him.

>>382061064
Coward

>>382062023
Why do people waste graphics on realism?

>>382060578
For Honor.

Oh wait...

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>>382063325
What didya say?

>>382063449
cause it looks nice faggot

>>382060578
>Dark Souls pvp
You can't move nearly that quickly in Dark Souls.

>>382063729
You heard me, coward. Hope you enjoy the breeze where your head was

>>382063841
It's more of the joke of how people treat the PVP too civilized while a lot of players just run in and smack the other guy's shit.

>>382063943
I was just being an ass. I know it wasn't literally trying to represent Souls pvp.

I think once VR technology allows for it there will absolutely be a game where you physically swordfight against other people over the internet. People who play this game a lot will ironically be better sword fighters than almost all people throughout all history

>>382064217
>Spoiler
Alright. Explain how they're going to be better swinging a weightless object.

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>>382060838
>Real life is not as fun as video games

>>382064348
They'll be able to hone their technique in a competitive environment without a risk of death. There are so many people around nowadays that almost all athletic world record holders are still currently alive

I hadn't accounted for the weight of the sword though, it would be hard for a game like that to balance light swords against heavy ones if the heavy ones weren't actually harder to swing, so maybe it'd only be rapiers or only be sabers or the like

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>>382061887
>real life is boring.

>>382064217
Unlikely. For one, fencing swords are held in an entirely different manner from real swords, and when wielded by someone with true skill, is just behind the marksman bullet in terms of speed.

Meanwhile, knowing how to swing a virtual sword isn't going to make one ready to wield a claymore or something with actual weight.

>>382061064
*teleports behind you*

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>>382060757

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>>382063860
Never bring a knife into a gun fight.

>>382064624
>They'll be able to hone their technique in a competitive environment without a risk of death
They already do this with real swords you stupid nigger

>>382064861
>crossbow
>gun
Ha, real funny kid.

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>swordplay
>not axeplay

>>382064217
>will ironically be better sword fighters than almost all people throughout all history

Maybe as far as technique goes but in an actual sword fight there is this very unique situation of having another human trying to kill you. In this scenario I would place bets on the actual sword fighter over someone who plays video games.

>>382064624
A virtual environment would be nothing like real life. When I said weight, I wasn't talking about balance. I'm talking about literally holding and swinging a sword. Those things are not feathers. They are heavy steel. I own one of those nip katana short swords. It's just decoration, but I've jokingly tried swinging it. Even that thing is awkward swinging thanks to its weight because I have zero actual training using it.

>>382064962
The gun of ye olde times

>>382064971
>Inarticulate yelling
That shit is always hilarious. Wouldn't a spear man just have poked him through his neck before he got within three feet?

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>>382060578
Hello?

>>382064971
spearbro needs more aggression

>>382065039
Even in something like fencing, the fencing is going to have the advantage because they'll know disengages and the like, not to mention move with unpredictability compared to some soulless AI that probably wouldn't know a thing about faints or patinando.

>>382065257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs8W4hIvTlY

>>382064542
>>382064653
>smug anime face with a quote and no counter argument
What did he mean by this?

no because sport fencing fucking sucks. I'd rather play tennis.

>>382065108
Too bad it doesn't have automatic fire or auto-reload, so you're fucked boyo.

>>382065393
I don't see any spears senpai

>>382065393
meant for
>>382065292

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>>382065416
The most exciting things to ever happen occurred in 'real life'. If your life is boring thats a result of your own choices.

>>382065421
>because sport fencing fucking sucks
Says (You)

>>382065292
It's close, but takes a lot liberties. For one, chucking your sword at someone would get you disqualified in a heartbeat.

>>382064971
spearfags BTFO

>>382065506
Tell me how someone is supposed to have an adventure across distant and strange lands while still holding a decent job and being able to pay for everything he wants.
Being filthy rich doesn't count, because that's easy mode.

>>382065534

fight me irl, bro. I'd stick your arm so hard with my epee you wouldn't be able to jack it for weeks.

fencing still sucks though.

>>382065327
Who said anything about AI?

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>>382065428
Not if I use 2 crossbows.

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>>382065685
>while still holding a decent job and being able to pay for everything he wants.

>thats a result of your own choices.
Did you not read that part? You've chosen a boring life.

>>382065713
Yea, sure. You probably couldn't even do a beat disengage without dropping it like a klutz.
>fencing still sucks though.
Here, have another (You), kiddo.

>>382065895
Good luck blocking a sword when you have both hands full and are trying to reload with your teeth like a retarded otter.

>>382065934
Well then, smug anime girl poster. Please tell us about your exciting, amazing lifestyle that you must have to be able to spout such tripe.

>>382065393
That looks...horrible.

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>>382066040
>Please tell us about your exciting, amazing lifestyle that you must have to be able to spout such tripe.
I never said my life was exciting, I'm just throwing some simple logic at you my friend :3c

Yes I would play that sort of game, since I'm into HEMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GoQlvc_H3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmLaZHStmI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98HD9vDhJOQ

>>382066167
Ah so you're just a shitposter then, good to know.
If it's so simple to lead a fun life, why are you here on 4chan telling me that instead of having fun?

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>>382066342
>Ah so you're just a shitposter
You seem to have become upset over nothing.
>If it's so simple to lead a fun
When did I say it was simple?

If you want to continue to get all this delicious (You)s you should at least read my posts.

>>382066037
>Implying that I will have to use the second crossbow, I only need one bolt the second one is just for the coup de grâce.

>>382066342
>so you're a shitposter
>says the faggot who can't come up with a legitimate reason that a game with realistic swordplay would be bad even though there are all kinds of ways to take into account things like weapon weight and various moves associated with them

Oh but how can we forget your little baby brain can't handle anything more complex than 2-3 button presses?

>>382066504
>he stills thinks he can still win with a shitty weapon that's known to jam and requires a steady aim just to pull off the shot
Enjoy that breeze where your head was, dork

The perfect sword game would be a mix of

Bushido Blade 2

Die By the Sword

and Exanima


>>382065640

>disqualified

Bitch this is sword fighting.
The only rule is to survive.

>>382066620
*Shoots you in the leg*
*Shoots you in the dick*
What now turbofaggot?

>>382066891
Might as well be a fucking spear then. Even then, it's not fencing.

>>382066913
>actions
Oh, hi there tumblr
>still thinks he can hit someone who isn't restricted by the necessity to stand still to pull off a shot
Maybe if you used a superior bow, you might have something of a chance.

>>382067068
>he thinks that I won't be hidden in the bush, sniping him.
>he think that bow is better than crossbow
:^)

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>>382067295
>hidden
Oh how could I forget you're a coward.

Perfect would be MM, Chivalry and Mountain blade.

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>>382067415
And that is why you are already dead.

>>382066913
*clang*
*clang*

That's the sound of both arrows hitting the shield I'm charging you with

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>>382067705
Keep dreaming, headless faggot.

>>382061929
>What is fucking Epee
Well done you're a fucking idiot

>>382065506
>The most exciting things to ever happen occurred in 'real life'.
>LotR vs average day
>40k vs average day
Respond with smug anime image to prove you're wrong

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>>382067938
What are you gonna do? swing at random bushes?

who /kendo/ here?

>>382067958
Still requires more than one hit to the hand to win you stupid nigger.

>>382068136
No, I'll just follow the smell of your faggotry

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>swordcucks
lmao

>>382068391
You better smell the odor of your blood after being sniped twice.

>>382068595
>still thinks he can snipe with a shitty crossbow

>>382068527
Enjoy falling over every time someone dodges your swings, cunt

>>382068687
>armorcucks being able to dodge anything
l
m
a
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>>382068776
>implying

begone peasent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bnM5SuQkI

>>382068687
Crossbows have superior precision and power than bow, no armor will save you from a bolt up the ass.

>>382068776
>implying I'd wear clunky shit and not something more easy to move in
KEK
LA
KEK

>>382068940
And no bolt is going to hit if we're in a dense forest with bushes, tardo

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>ITT: Larping faggots getting mad at each other

>>382069092
I've been trying to talk about fencing, not my fault these fantasy knobs think they can just up and wield a zweihander just by playing a fucking game for two weeks.

>>382069092
>smug lolis
Why can't 4chan post smug shota instead?

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>>382069493
Shotas gay you fag

>>382069079
Even the forest have a path where animals (like you) walk, and in that path is where I will snipe your ass.

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More importantly, why did capes fall out of fashion?

>>382069741
I'd legit murder someone if it meant capes could come back in style

>>382069638
Keep dreaming, kiddo. Though I guess you'll nothing else do after your head's off

>>382065428
Chinese crossbow, nigga.

>>382069741
Capes are fucking ridiculous and serve literally no purpose in battle.

>>382069741
As cool as they are, the things are pretty impractical.

Though at least we aren't putting them on mechs, that would be fucking objectively retarded

>>382069795
What are even wielding? sword? sword is for subpar faggots you know that right?

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>>382069741

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>>382069836
Who said anything about battle. Personally I've begun wearing my bed sheets like capes using these, it's very comfy and needless to say it increases my coolness factor by magnitudes.

>>382069942
Says (You), bub.

>>382070091
Holy shit anon you really sounded like a kid for a moment here.

Capes are pretty dumb regardless, they are only useful if you are an adventurer or some shit like that.

>>382065053
>Those things are not feathers. They are heavy steel.
Maybe a shitty stainless steel wallhanger. One handed swords should feel as though they're practically feathers.

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>>382069836

but that's wrong says so right here

checkmate atheists

>>382070184
No, really, even axes/hammers are better weapons, polearms are god tier tho.

But nothing beats ranged combat.

>>382070091
Tell me the placement is intentional
I swear to fucking god this site is ruining me

>>382070469
Keep telling yourself that.

>>382060578
I always enjoyed the Bushido Blade games swordplay, it alwyas felt tense.

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>>382068110
Those things never even happened, so how can they be more exciting?

>>382060578
I backed CLANG so no

>>382060838
>not using actual sharpened rapier and playing to first blood drawn from chest

>>382064624
Hema practitioner here. This is actualy already a problem in the sport, particularly in the tournament scene.

Alot of people don't cover their defences properly. So you have a big issue with double hits and afterblows. Basically people just try and get the point rather than try to stay alive, why bother avoiding an afterblow if you've already gotten the win?

If people fenced like that with real swords there'd be alot of double kills in duals.

in what level of hema do they teach 'teleport behind your foe'? serious replies only

>>382070305
Don't hate on me just because I ninja'd this sweet Cloak of Protection off the boss.

>>382068687
>being so weak that you cannot keep balance after a swing
Weakling ans most likely under 5'5 manlet detected. When will they learn?

>>382070865
You have to be level 20+ and never kiss a m'lady to gain that skill.

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actual medieval european swordplay

>>382071008
done and done

*stabs you from 20 feet away*

SPEAR BEST WEAPON SWORDKEKS A SHIT

>>382070967
Nice projection, shitstain

>>382060578
>gently tapping each other with swords until one guy says fuck it and clubs you with his shield
Great game

>>382071392
You don't use shields in fencing, dipshit

>>382071315
Manlytears saltier than the dead sea

>>382071495
>no argument
>better just meme-name him!
Good on ya, son

>>382071310
*teleports behind you*
*stabs you with an arrow from the other side of the castle*

Ye olde acquire proficiency maymay.

>>382060578
Exanima.

>>382071631
>i dont have any counter arguments
>if i say "not an argument" then i can at least pretend i do
Nice try tiny tim.

>>382071847
I remember seeing that a while back. Seems like doing accurate fighting with a mouse at an isometric angle would be a pain compared to something in third or first person

>>382072167
>says the namefag with no actual argument whatsoever
Whatever, you poor deluded child.

>>382069870
>>382069836

Didn't the spartans wear the red capes to try and hide the fact they were bleeding in combat?

>>382072412
I think I recall hearing something like that. But there are so many things that get mixed up with lies because they sound cool, like how everyone thought Vikings had horns on their helments.

>>382071310
>_____ a shit

i thought this meme was dead

>>382072637
Obviously not, of course when people can't go without attaching "kek" or "cuck" or "fag" to it, you know people are floundering in their stance and can't come up with any sort of competent response.

>>382070758
That is really frowned upon here. Also, verdadera destreza is really defensive, so this situation is not as common

>>382072627

I don't think any historian ever thought the Vikings wore helmets due to the fact there was no real historical evidence to learn towards that myth. People just thought it sounded cool.

I'm pretty sure with the Spartans they actually wore caps for something to do with instant blankets at night time, hiding wounds from enemies and something else I cannot remember.

>>382063841
I think you can get pretty fast in DS3, given they tried to mesh elements of the more fast-paced combat from Bloodborne into it.

>>382072937
I do german longsword which is rather aggressive so it happens a fair bit. Theres alot of discussion in my little community about whether we should start implementing right of way and afterblow rules to discourage the blind fast attacks that people are using.

>>382060578
No.

>>382075730
Well then leave.

>>382067958
>>What is fucking Epee
Sporterized smallsword?

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>>382061064
>misfire once
>by the time you reload i'm already in melee range

>>382070591
it is good game

>>382070418
W-what game is that belly from

>>382065428
by the time the crossbow started seeing adaption moving from a siege weapon to a personal weapon they had slings to help load it way faster. Some innovations were even pump action system with 6 to 8 bolts at a time.

>>382077818
And yet that means jack shit if the opposition have trees to move behind and probably a shield to keep their head and torso from getting hit.

>>382077963
bolts travel at nearly 400fps, that's over a 120lbs of kinetic energy, at 40 yards there is no armor that will protect you unless you got a 3 inch plate of solid steel between you and it.

>Look up videos of Olympic Fencing matches
>Expect cool swordfights with oppents waiting for the right time to strike
>It's just two guys bum rushing eacother and thrusting

I play sports so I know there's probably alot of technique and finess behind it, but it wasn't as fun as I though it would be.

>>382078526
The response time of Olympic fencing puts it at the fastest sport ever. Points are over before you even finish blinking.

>>382077464
Push and pull levers can reload a shot in one arm movement, literally works on the same premise as a pump action shotgun. Crossbows during their peak was one of the deadliest war weapons, there wasn't much anyone could do until the guy ran out of bolts.

>>382075416
We do count responsable afterblows in order to discourage that. We also do German longswording, but we are quite influenced by the spanish fencing school

>>382060992
Prove it

>>382060578
>Dark souls PVP in a nutshell
>Rapierfag running from a sweifag who's moving at rocket speeds.

That's literally nothing like Dark Souls PVP.

>>382078526
It's one of those things you have to actually do yourself to appreciate it. Things like disengages, beats, and whatnot require you to make movements instinctual if you want to do them fast and without mercy.

>>382079132
Again, it's the joke about how some soulsfags play like they're expecting everyone to take turns and fight fairly, not getting bum rushed by someone who isn't a faggot obeying autistic fan-rules.

>>382079321
>Again, it's the joke
>Took a video that's nothing like souls PVP
>Titled it "souls PVP"

Whatever you gotta tell yourself man.

Also stop using "Again" at the start of your sentence, it makes you look like a castrated passive aggressive bitch.

>>382079832
Whatever, autist. The fucking joke works fine.

>>382070378
Katana were not one-handed swords.

>>382061064
Fuck you I'm behind a thousand skeletons.