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So why doesn't nvidia and amd just make more video cards

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So why doesn't nvidia and amd just make more video cards to counter the crypto currency?

How am I suppose to make a budget gayming pc?
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I'm just waiting for the 11xx cards
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>>382057204
>How am I suppose to make a budget gayming pc?

Basic Build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y4RkZ8

If you wanna make it 600 bucks and like near a microcenter you could pick this one up

http://www.microcenter.com/product/479279/Radeon_RX_580_Overclocked_8GB_GDDR5_Video_Card

Then just get a ryzen 1400 while you're there since it gives you 50 dollars off an AM4 motherboard the cheapest one coming out around 10 bucks which is the same one in that list.

With those savings it's around 600 dollars.

Free windows 10:
https://pastebin.com/UVevkgHy

You can go cheaper but you'll be compromising a good upgradable build and be stuck with a lesser cpu/socket on the motherboard. Like the pentium g4560 + mobo would save 100 bucks but wouldn't let you hit 60 fps all the time in multithreaded games
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>>382057204
>So why doesn't nvidia and amd just make more video cards to counter the crypto currency?
Why would they? They're just making money from this. They don't care about you.
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>>382057204
they can't produce more and sell them at the normal middrange price. The more you produce the more difficult it is to keep the same margin of benefits and maintain a competitive price,it's diminishing returns the price has to go up
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>>382057447
>have 1% of buyers pay $700
>have 100% of buyers pay normal MSRP
Hmmm.... makes you think.
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>>382058072
>have 1% of buyers pay $700
it's an anon throws numbers out the ass to prove a point without proving anything episode
the price wouldn't have fucking gone up if people weren't buying tons of them, Nvidia/AMD don't care if it's for grafix or mining crypto-currencies
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>>382057204
Pretty sure they don't make cards, they license the tech to MSI/ASUS/etc who actually make the cards. And yes OP over time supply will increase to meet demand.
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>>382058498

So wait. They make their own product. Then instead of selling them and getting all the profits, they just sell a shitty license so manufacturers profit? Why?
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>>382058642
development and manufacturing are very different fields, moron
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Theyre making headless ones for this now.
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Why not just wait for nvidia volta? Shit is q1 2018 anyways.
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>>382058839
Even when they're not headless they're being geared towards miners. The Vega cards launched today with Linux drivers there for compute, but no upstream support for actually getting video out.
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>>382057204
>save money for card
>get enough
>go to buy
>sold out
>everything at 10000% original price

Why
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>>382059341

You could go to microcenter..

>>382057390
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>>382057204
build your own graphics card
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>>382057390
>Ryzen
>2133 memory

Ryzen gaming peformance is way more dependent on memory bandwidth than Intel is. You really want 3000+ scaling in benchmarks is nearly linear with faster memory.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fwWKTH
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>>382059401
>drive to brick and mortar store
>oh sorry that guy just bought all our 580s

Store near me isn't even putting the cards out now, the manager is just buying them all and putting them straight onto ebay.
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God I Will never be happier i bought a 1070 at the beginning of the year instead of waiting all you suckers who waited deserve this faggots
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>>382059832
Some of us didn't have the money until now.
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>>382057204
Takes three-four months for a GPU to go from raw to product. Semiconductors a cunt.

>>382057447
Retailers make money off price jumps, retailers buy from the various OEMs who in turn buy the physical chips from AMD/Nvidia. Yeah they're out of wafers, but they don't care whether the GPU ends up selling for $200 or $600.

>>382057462
Reverse actually, economy of scale. Bring up time is too long to react rapidly though.

>>382058498
>>382058642
Asus/MSI buy the physical chips from AMD/Nvidia. AMD/Nvidia contract Global Foundries and TSMC respectively to build the physical chips.

>>382058746
Funnily enough AMD used to own Global Foundries. Intel and Samsung do their own manufacturing as well. Vertical integration can be nice but splits focus up.
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>>382060143
Did you not get a tax refund?
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>>382059832
I did, but the card I got was bad and I wound up having to RMA it, put my old card back in and used the store credit for books and food.
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>>382060406
Why didn't you get a replacement? How dumb are you?
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>>382057390

Thanks for this
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>>382060570
My old card wound up working. I was worried the whole system had been fried, and it wasn't that old and still ran everything I wanted it to in 1080.

Plus I had this crazy idea that normally the prices go down when a replacement or higher end card is launching and I figured why get a 480 when a Vega based 590 is on its way.

I don't really regret that decision, not buying a Fury when they were going for less than $300 on the other hand. That was a mistake.
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>>382058072
Because they know it's artificial demand and soon it will go back to normal levels.
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>>382057204
all of the 8gb radeon video cards are sold out

i have no money but still goddamnit
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>>382061131
snagged one of those

I'm happy with it but I lost the silicon lottery, and I can't unlock the shaders because they started laser cutting them off. Older dies which were probably binned worse, tbdesu.

Still, runs everything fucking great at around 1125 mhz, and I don't have a 144hz monitor and I'm not a CS:GO autist so I don't care if Im not pushing 200fps in shooters.
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>>382057390
Dude, my local micro center (and probably yours too) hasn't had 580s in stock for a month now. I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation in the slightest.
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Yes. why indeed
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>>382057204

Okay can someone just TLDR me all this stuff?

I recently bought a 1080 for about $460 after rebate, did I luck out by doing it before all these (whatever they are) happenings or did I fuck up by buying too early?
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>>382059341
Check your local listings on sites like Craigslist. Out of curiosity I checked what was being sold in my area. I found plenty of decent lightly-used cards for half to a third of what they're selling for on Newegg. Ask to see the card working in a test bench or the seller's system, and you're good to go if it works alright.
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>>382057204
Okay anons, my GPU died a few weeks ago and I think I'm ready to get a new card.
I only work part time because I'm a student, but I need a new GPU. My 780ti was getting old anyway. I have enough money, which card do I go for and where do I buy it from? There prices over here in New Zealand are bullshit, it's 1300NZD for a 1080ti. I'm only running at 1920x1080 @144hz but I'm planning on upgrading my monitor next. Either 1920x1440 @60hz or @144hz depending on the prices. Hell, I might check out one of those super widescreen ones because surround is pretty worthless on my current monitors the two on the sides are smaller than my main middle one and fuck running surround with one monitor with a different resolution.
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>>382057204
Just bought upgraded from an EVGA 750Ti to a new PNY 1060

It only cost me $220 and I got a Rocket League code. Pretty nice desu.
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>>382057204
Because it takes time and money to invest in more manufacturing to make more cards.
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they are making stripped down versions
but holy shit it's gonna be a shitstorm with people selling and buying in this heat
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>>382063521
Bought/upgraded*

I can't fuckin type
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>>382057204
A friend reminder that it isn't Nvidia or AMD that are raising or even benefiting from inflated prices, if anything they are being hurt

Its the OEM manufacturers that are doing this, EVGA, Zotac , PNY and ect
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>cant buy new because price hike
>cant buy used because of high chances of getting some worn out half dead miner card

how long until this band wagon fucks right off?
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>>382063793
Often its not even them, its the retailers who make products available through the big store fronts.
If you look at Amazon for instance its prices are set at the MSRPs, but the instant the cards come into stock they're being bought up and then the only cards available are from shady smaller companies that are selling stuff through amazon.
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>>382063521
>no code for my 1070
i feel gypped
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>dont live near microcenter

Fuck
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>Bought my rx480 8gb for $350 dollarydoos
Feels good might even sell it desu
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>>382057204
FUCK YOU LIBERTARDS FOR RAISING THE PRICES OF GPUS SO YOU CAN GET MORE OF YOUR FAKE E MONEY
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>>382066384
it is like 200 msrp
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>>382063421
ADVICE PLEASE /v/, FUCK /g/
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I hope they gimp their next line of GPUs on hardware-level and fuck these mongoloid miningniggers hard.
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>>382066791
>FUCK /g/
you hurt my feelings
not gonna help you anymore
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>>382063421

Pre order amd's vega lest you want mining fags to blow you the fuck out
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>>382057390
Nigga I still have a 660 coupled with an AMD 6300, what's the best card I can get that won't bottleneck my system?
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>tfw still using a 2gb 770.
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>>382067240

>be me
>buy gtx 480
>sign up for evga lifetime warranty
>3 years pass
>rma the card get sent gtx 760
>rma again recently get sent gtx 770 4GB

WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GOING TO SEND ME A 960
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Top fucking kek you losers are so salty over video cards. Meanwhile i'm making 1000% gains from cryptos
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>>382067023
They never help me, mainly because I never ask them and I'm always too scared to create a thread on boards outside of here and /a/. Pls help

>>382067049
I've never had an AMD card, what's the new one like?
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>>382067487
VEGA has no official specs and it hasn't been announced. Should be announced relatively soon though.
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>>382067461
Prove it.
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>>382067668
Started with $500 in march from my tax return. It's too late to make those wild gains though. The ship has sailed.
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>>382067487
>I've never had an AMD card, what's the new one like?

It'll have HBM2 which is a new memory format for vram. For the most part amd's cards are priced around the same vs nvidia's counterpart for their performance. Depending on the title. But amd's do have an advantage in some areas. Like how the gtx 1060 has 6gb vram vs 8gb vram on the rx 480.
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>>382067668
https://youtu.be/SJgWqbZBn6I
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>>382066384
>>382066578
It shouldn't even cost more than 200, you dun goofed
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>>382068107
well i wanted it at launch and the only one in stock i found was a tad over 200, and i added rush shipping to.
all in all, was fine buying it then and moreso after selling it now.
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>>382067623
I see. I'd rather get a card sooner rather than later, I've been stuck playing on my PS4 and I'm running out of things to play. Got any other recommendations? At this point I might just bite the bullet and buy an expensive one.

>>382068075
Okay, I'll do a bit more research before buying anything. Are the settings as good as the Nvidia control panel? I assume they're very similar.
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>>382066384
>Paid more for your 480 than I did for an R9 Fury
That's kinda fucked m8.
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How much is my GTX 1080 worth now then?
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>>382069517
0, just send it over anytime lad
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>>382057204

Can I get a quick rundown on what happened? What's all this crypto mining shit and card stuff about?
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>mfw cryptocucks are ruining vidya

all i want is for my fellow anons to enjoy gaming, can't even do that w/o paying for a arm and a leg
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>>382069338
Cheap where? When?

>>382069673
Seconded. Explain please anons.
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What's up 4channers, just some friendly advice to head on over to >>>/biz/ for some help making easy money. Now happens to be an AMAZING time to buy some ETH and other crypto currencies.
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>>382069786
>When?
Black Friday last year.
Got it for $250.
Honestly, if it wasn't on sale I wouldn't have bothered, and I definitely wouldn't bother now that they retail for $600+ new.
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loling at pcfags
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>>382069673
>>382069786

Bitcoins autistic cousin called Ethereum is on the rise because it uses gpu's to mine and therefore cryptocucks have been acquiring every possible mid-range to high mid-range card they cant get their hands on. Pretty much sucks right now if you wanna build a new rig at the moment.
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>>382069673
>>382069786
what rock did you fags crawl out of?
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>>382070135

Don't reply to me.
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>>382069756
top fucking kek

>cryptocuck
say that to my 1000% gains buddy
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>>382067623
Literally released today and specs have been known for months because the Linux drivers are open source.
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>>382069813
>Now happens to be an AMAZING time to buy some ETH and other crypto currencies.
Indeed, crypto coins have been falling price these days.
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>tfw 1440p gsync monitor with a 1080 ti
should be set for a 2-3 years
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I always buy the most expensive version of any given object because I'm rich. I could wipe my ass on video cards
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>bought a 1070 earlier in the year
>now being sold for 800 dollarydoos
Should I sell it? I still have a 970 laying around, wonder if anyone would be dumb enough to pay that price for it.
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>>382070738
> I could wipe my ass on video cards
Now that's a rough butt
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>>382057390
>$30 psu

jej
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So /v/ how long til the the card price drops? Want to upgrade my rig when it returns to normal
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>>382068424

Well I'd say it's better. Amd lets you control tesselation which nvidia refused to do. Vega will release July or the month after.
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>>382057204
You can get a 1070 right now for $435 on Newegg, anon. Stop hoaxing
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Will there be a flood of used 1070s on the market when Volta comes out? I plan on selling mine and getting a Volta card when they come out, and I'm going to be mad if miners have depressed the price of my card on the used market.
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>(((((waiting))))) for Vega
>$1000 for a GPU that's not for gaming
>"More information at the end of July" meaning more (((((waiting)))))
>Meanwhile cryptofags are fucking up the GPU economy
What the fuck
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>>382057204
>all prices are from third party literally whos selling cards out of their garage

and people think nintendo stuff is scalped badly
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>>382071118
Why lie on the internet?
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I hope these cryptocurrency retards start committing suicide when their meme currency suddenly crashes into worthlessness. Every couple of months with these people it's some new stupid shit. Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin, Etherium, all the meaningless trash. I'm glad I wasn't planning on buying a new graphics card right now otherwise I'd be seriously pissed.
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>>382071158

That was the workstation cards

The egs rx or gaming cards are due July or early August

http://us.blastingnews.com/tech/2017/06/amd-radeon-rx-vega-to-release-in-late-july-or-early-august-001776699.html

Course if the mining shit is going on, you're gonna wanna pre order them quick
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>>382069756
>RAM prices are still astronomically high
>now this
For fucks sake. At least AMD has made better CPUs somewhat cheaper, but still, this is awful.
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>>382071371
I watched the 25 minute demo of the workstation card. He didn't say RX Vega was releasing late July / early August. He just said there will be "more information" for those cards.
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reminder 10 series cards were also price jacked to pay for the 970 lawsuit
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>>382071339
>>382057204
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126119&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
You tell me.
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Please tell me these GPU prices are going to go back to normal soon, I don't want this influx of newbie cryptofags permanently fucking the GPU economy.

They're like scalpers at this point, looking to make a quick buck after hearing "MAKE FREE MONEY WITH GPU" in the news.
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>>382071783
They will. Just don't try to buy a 580 for a while.
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>>382071783
we can wait them out again, they won't win
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>>382071783
My guess: 3 months of fucked up prices or only in the next year it will be normalized

Also, they are starting to make mining GPUs to sell and stop this crisis
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Why the fuck do people treat cryptocurrencies like an actual investment? It's essentially just a bunch of people putting money in a pot creating a bubble, and hoping that they pull out at the right time so they make the most money while everyone else loses money. The only "value" behind them (the electricity spent making the coins) is useless, because you can't convert the coins into electricity. This whole thing just reeks of young people wanting to participate in the stock market, but being too poor to afford buying into the stock market and/or not having the time to learn how to invest.
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so after this all ends and etherum collapses into a bubble like the rest of them
would these miners sell of their cards or hoard them for the next meme coins?
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>>382072024
The mining GPUs aren't going to be popular. Miners prefer gaming GPUs because they can sell them to gamers to get some of their investment back once they're done with the card. Selling cards that are $5 cheaper because they don't have video out ports won't appeal to miners because they can't sell them to gamers. The only thing that would make GPUs more attractive to miners is easily replaceable fans, because that helps with resale value a lot since the fan is the most likely thing to break after being on 24/7 for several months.
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>>382072207
They'll probably just throw them away because by the cards will be heavily used having been run at full load 24/7, and new coins needing the newest most efficient cards in order to turn a profit.
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>>382057390
>580
>$200

are you a fucking retard? living under a rock?
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>>382072129
In 2010, someone paid 10,000 BTC for 2 pizzas. Those Bitcoins would now be worth about $25 million.
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>>382072129
its a bubble in which I made about 10,000 USD in 3 months.

You may be right, but im making money.
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>>382072129
Whatever dog, I made $900 in my sleep today.
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>>382072552
>In 2010, someone paid 10,000 BTC for 2 pizzas. Those Bitcoins would now be worth about $25 million.
Don't try to argue with him, he is the type of person that deserves to not have easy access to money.
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>>382072507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44JqNJq-PC0
tl;dw - no
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>>382072552
If that person cashed in $25 million worth of bitcoin today, the market would crash and tons of people would lose money. Which is my point. You can't cash in for actual USD without lowering the value of what everyone else has.
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>>382072129
>This whole thing just reeks of young people wanting to participate in the stock market, but being too poor to afford buying into the stock market and/or not having the time to learn how to invest.

you make it sound like the stock market is better yet its plagued by the same same kinds of bubbles of retards investing in shit just because other retards are investing in shit only for it all to collapse in on itself

it takes less money to buy stocks than it does to set up a fucking GPU farm nigga are you kidding me, tons of stocks are just a few dollars and they have relatively the same mobility in price fluctuation, RELATIVELY, right?
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>>382072771
Which is why you slowly sell it off. No one sells it all at once. Thats dumb as fuck lol, kinda like /v/
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>>382072129
>attended several seminars about investment
>need to familiarize myself with business and economic terms to even get a gist of proper investment techniques
>see clueless youths throw money at whatever stock some pseudo-economist ask them to and pull out at any sign of changes
>they only care to invest at bull markets

now i have some shares in a carpooling service, an amazon prime drone delivery knockoff,some organic online market place and some generic vape company,might even venture out to airbnb soon enough
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>>382072756
Cards rarely go bad because of the silicon though. Cards go bad because the fans break.
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I buy gpus in bulk upon release and sell them to miners for 2-3x retail for massive profit, AMA
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>>382072941
>Which is why you slowly sell it off. No one sells it all at once. Thats dumb as fuck lol, kinda like /v/
Not him but newbies do sell it all at once. I was checking Zcash trading and there was a retard selling shitloads of it for a stupid low price today, not sure if it was something attempting to crash Zcash or a total newbie.

Anyway, intelligent miners sell slowly as you said
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>>382072756
>a few days of benchmarking
vs
>24/7 heavy load for months in a hot environment

The silicon may be fine, but the thermal compound, the fan, the capacitors, etc could all be shot.
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>>382072672
>went to do a quick wank n flush
>return
>+$500
>mfw
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I have the opportunity to buy a Sapphire 460 4Gb for around 180$ (roughly converted from my local currency).
I'm poor and I'm in dire need to upgrade, and also have to get a new PSU so the thing doesn't get fried.

Should I get it? I'm happy with 1080p.
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>>382072851
Stock markets crash because actual value is being lost in the economy. This is not the case with cryptocurrencies. Stocks are actually backed by the value of the company they represent. The stock price for AMD went down when they released bulldozer because their company became less valuable. Their stock price went up after Ryzen because they became more valuable.

>it takes less money to buy stocks than it does to set up a fucking GPU farm nigga are you kidding me, tons of stocks are just a few dollars and they have relatively the same mobility in price fluctuation
A) The vast majority of the time, you need to spend a few hundred dollars to create an account to be able to invest in the stock market.
B) The stock market is way less volatile than cryptocurrencies.
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>>382073075
>>382072756
>GPUs worth hundreds of dollars usually die and are trash because a $20 replaceable fan died out and THEN the heat kills it

i really, really fucking doubt this to be the case

i dont know what the fuck this video is about, i dont know anyone who was ever stupid enough to think hardware fucking slows down over time, its about the heat destroying it out right

software gets bogged down by more and more software and bugs arise, thats what "performance degradation" is, wipe your shit and it willl run like fucking new every time unless its dying and flat out shutting down or having driver failures

what the fuck lmao
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>>382072941
Slowly selling it off only slowly reduces the value of everyone else's holdings. The end result is the same.
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How the fuck are retards still falling for the buttcoin meme? Surely the scam is well documented enough by now?
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>>382073436
Probably not... it's worse than a 270.
How much is a 950 where you are?
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>>382073436
terrible deal. The rx 460's MSRP is $100. You would be paying almost double the recommended price for a budget card meant for 1080p at medium settings

consider getting a 1050, or a 1050ti if it's within your budget
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>>382073450
>A) The vast majority of the time, you need to spend a few hundred dollars to create an account to be able to invest in the stock market.

as opposed to having dozens or hundreds of computers which cost hundreds of dollars each...
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>>382057204
What a joke, thank god I bought my RX 480 at launch and enjoying everthying 1080p60
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>>382073548
It costs more than that to replace the cooler (unless you can somehow only buy the fan for your card), and it takes some labor to change it. I don't think it's worth it for miners, they're probably better off just selling the card with a broken fan and letting someone else try to fix it.
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>>382073850
Or more commonly they sell the card without disclosing the problem hoping to get as much as they can out of them and sticking them with a broken card.
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>>382073756
When you're investing in crypto currencies on that scale, you're probably expecting to get a lot of money out of it. To get that same amount of money from the stock market, you'd need to invest in hundreds of dollars worth of stocks at the right time.
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>>382073548
>software gets bogged down by more and more software and bugs arise, thats what "performance degradation" is

uh no.... you retard... the electricity travelling through the circuit wears the lanes out... that's why overclocking your stuff brings its lifespan down. Shut the fuck up.
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pls make it stop
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>>382074252
>that hair
JUST
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>>382073570
You're joking right? The demand is so popular for bitcoin that slowly dumping it off has no effect. Dude you know nothing about crypto.
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>>382073669
I don't know, I'd have to check.
I'd be getting it from a local market, because as you might've guessed from my first post, I'm not a burger, nor from any country with a developed online market for that matter.
Getting a card from a foreign market always ends up being more expensive because of taxes and shipping, and sending it back were I to need warranty, it would be a total mess.

>>382073753
Anything Nvidia is marginally more expensive here lol. The cheapest I've seen a 1050 is like 220$.
I'm trying to put off buying it from a foreign market for the reasons I said already.
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>>382068082
I don't like the chip inside his body. It's scary.
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>buy a 980 4 years ago
>still works great
>all the pc plebs buying up 1080s like they need 4k
>literally 720p assets uprendered to 4k and pretending that is next gen gaming

niggers youd be better off supersampling or something
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>>382073850
if everyones cards were dying because of fans it would be well known and people would be replacing their fans when they die all the time to extend their GPUs lives by a large amount or resell them for a high price rather than fucking trashing them or selling them cheap for scrap part or some shit

but it seems like the fan is the only part to continue working beyond a certain time usually
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>>382072129
That's the point, anon, It's purely speculative bubble. You go in and cash out quick while it lasts.
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>>382057204
Those 10 year old Chinese children's can only take so much.
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>>382074642
Selling your bitcoins reduces the scarcity. If you slowly pulled out of the market while demand was growing because more people were entering the market, you would still be lowering the price for people entering the market compared to if you were not slowly selling off your bitcoins.
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>>382074658
That's why I said "where you are" familia. I know.
Hopefully you can find something better than a 460 for that price, or maybe better. See what you have avaliable and find some benchmarks online, or use stuff like gpuboss(only if it has a solid fps to compare to)/userbenchmark to get a rough idea of how they compare.
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>>382074798
>polygons and straight lines are 720p assets
haha, are you retarded? serious question.
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>>382074870
People said that about Bitcoin in 2010 when it was worth $6.
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>>382074658
How many hours of work is $40 more?
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>>382061324
>soon it will go back to normal levels

You do realize that cryto-currencies have been around for almost a decade by now?
Unless something massive happens, the "artificial demand" will not cease to exist.
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>>382073292
Pretty good for 30 seconds
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>>382074658
>Anything Nvidia is marginally more expensive here
oh, that's unfortunate. Then it seems like the 460 is your best choice, unless you can find a decent used gpu
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>>382074810
For desktop usage, GPU relevance period is shorter than its hardware lifespan. You'll replace your old card with new generation faster than it starts breaking up. By the time it starts having hardware wear it's useless trash that no one needs.
This isn't the case with mining.
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>>382075168
About 4.7 hours
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>>382075137
>People said...
No, they did not.
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>>382072672
How? Does it fucking take a single day of mining just to make a fucking miniscule amount of BTC?
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You can make budget gaymen PC's for like 400 something bucks if you don't include monitors, keyboards, etc.
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>>382075314
... get the 1050...
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>>382075417
You can only mine it "fast" with Antminer, not a normal GPU computer. Of course a normal rig is still possible and it's more useful as you can always sell it later or mine other coins.

You probably would need 1 month to get any worth $ with a rig on my guess
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>>382075651
Its going to get way cheaper and easier to build budget gaming systems once the Ryzen/Vega SOC chips are out.
No discrete GPU required, single CCX Ryzen so fewer performance issues, best drivers for AMD graphics are on GNU/Linux which is Free.
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>>382074998
It's pretty difficult to find lower prices when the retailers have to pay absurd fees to import the damn things.
For example, an RX550 2Gb is sitting at around 115$. Take from that what you will.

>>382075168
I don't work, I'm in uni. Call it a bad excuse but college life is pretty different here from the usual college life that's painted in America. I just get by with what my folks give me. I have maybe 3 or 4 bucks leftover per week.

>>382075247
I just went back to double check the prices. A 1050ti goes, depending on the brand, from around 210$ to 250$.
To put it into perspective, a Zotac 1080ti is a little over 900$. I wish I was kidding.
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>>382075395
Yes they did, confirmed for not being on /v/ or /g/ in 2010.
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>>382062585
1080s are kinda shit for mining so anything lower tier has been bought out by big corps
if anything you made the right choice
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>>382076513
>I just went back to double check the prices. A 1050ti goes, depending on the brand, from around 210$ to 250$.
That sounds like a bargain compared to what some of the prices are right now.

>To put it into perspective, a Zotac 1080ti is a little over 900$. I wish I was kidding.
That's a bit higher than the US, but not ridiculously so.

https://www.amazon.com/Zotac-ZT-P10810C-10P-1080-Extreme-GDDR5X/dp/B06Y3L3NPS/ref=sr_1_18?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1498621259&sr=1-18&keywords=1080ti
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I just gave up all hope upgrading my 970.
But oh well, it's still holding fine in FHD.
Hopefully by the next generation in 2018 either new cards will be unsuitable for mining, or the bubble bursts.
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>>382077501
>or the bubble bursts
It's already happening
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>>382077010
Well then it's a shame I don't have the money for it then.
Either way, I guess that goes to show the prices are fair-ish, but still a little bit higher than desired, specially for someone with no job.
Every other retailer I've checked has stupidly higher prices than these people. It looks like the most inflated prices are on the more budget cards, ironically enough.
Still, I can't help but be worried that they're just selling their current stock at this price, and then skyrocket it once they bring in more.
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>>382072552
>mfw I had over 10K in coins from mindless mining when browsing /v/,/a/, or wherethefuckever
>never expect it to take off, but hey it's beer money if it does
>hard drive containing the coins fails, think nothing of it, still have it but it's probably not worth the hassle to send to a lab
>couple months ago learn my wallet is literally worth millions if I could afford the data retrieval
it's suffering
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>>382072771
I remember back years ago when I was arguing with a cuck on /pol/ about BitCoins and how I was genuinely making good money off of it and he didn't believe me, and here we are now. Too bad I gave up mining. It was always just a hobby anyways. I don't have the space or the desire anymore.
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>>382057204
>2017
>doesn't have a gaming PC yet
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