Ace Combat 7 Performance

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Its on PC this time so why is this a problem? unless you're poor OP

>>382055005
60fps doesn't produce any better screenshots and people are still used to 30fps youtube videos and streams and so on.

Pc wins again baby

>>382055005
>expecting 60fps on console

When will they learn?

>>382055005
ace combat 6 was running at 30fps.
and rendering > performance.

>playing multiplats on consoles

your bad

>>382055005
>Expecting 60 fps on a console.

I mean, you can in theory get 60 fps on a console. Stable 60 fps.

Just as long as you don't mind your game looking like a forgotten abortion from the PS2 era.

>>382055005
Isn't this supposed to be a VR game for PS4? How do they expect to do that without a consistent frame rate?

Saw you post this on /tv/ you fucking faggot

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>>382055005
Oh boy, here we go. Bringing Ace Combat to PC was the mistake that will finally kill this franchise.

>>382055665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHQ58voy_Y

by PS2ing my shit up fampai

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>>382055579
>Unreal Engine game
>programmed by the Japanese
>running good on PC

I'm expecting Nier 2 optimization, with nonexistent AMD support (as always).

>>382055818
>AMD gaming

your bad

>>382055818
Street fighter, tekken 7, etc. have a bad optimisation?

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>>382055735
You mean shitty x86 boxes with parts that were mid/low range when they came out almost 5 years ago aren't capable of running a visually demanding game?

>>382055818
>tekken 7

>>382055770
Wow. That is actually pretty close to PS2 tier. There's no discerning lighting, the aliasing is non existent. Grass is gone. Shadow draw distance is what, 20 feet? Good lord. VR was a mistake.

>>382055005

lol it's like something from 10 years ago

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>>382055818
um sweetie...

So whats eating the frames here?
The volumetric clouds? I'm not an expert but they don't look much better than in Battlefield (and it's 50fps on the ps4 with 64 players and destruction).

Just play DCS like any sane flightfag

>>382055818
This. Expect shit unless you're running a completely top of the line build

>>382055005
>60 fps

This game isn't about fps, it is about plane-autist extraordinaire Kazutoki living out his twisted fantasies and I love it.

https://youtu.be/yDU-mXi1MK0

>A fucking Ace Combat game cant even

You say that like the graphics in this game aren't fucking incredible.

>>382056006
>Destruction
Don't delude yourself. Battlefield hasn't had destruction since 2010.

>>382056003
900p on PS4 pro, the AC devs refuse to compromise image quality for performance.

>>382055902
>>382055937
>>382056003

Is Tekken 7 to "optimized Unreal Engine games" as to what Witcher 3 is to "good western game"? That is, the only exception that somehow disproves the rule?

>>382055898
>Overpaying for fucking anti-consumer and anti-competition brands like Intel and Nvidia

>>382056171
>UE4 is a poorly optimized mess meme

show me some PC vidya using it which are poorly optimized and aren't greenlight tier

>>382056171
The only problem with UE4 is the input lag.

>>382056193
>either you support a monopoly to be able to play games
>or go against the grain and get fucked because the entire industry follows the leader, not the underdogs

That's why Sony has a monopoly on Japanese games. Why go for a lesser platform when the leading platform will never falter?

>>382056171
>That is, the only exception that somehow disproves the rule?
That's not how that saying works.

Why are people still surprised 60fps isn't a guarantee with console games?

>>382056171
>Witcher 3
>good
Lmao

>>382056472
because current year

>>382056006
There is an absurd amount of detail behind everything this time around.

>>382056472
A lot of people upset their "better than a gaming PC, for cheaper" console is still being beat by gaming PCs.

>>382056472
/v/ false flagging to shit on consoles for free.

>>382055005
I'm starting to think that they outright hate good performance. Like, if they have a game that run well, they start adding stuff until it's below 30 fps.

>>382056627
Show me a PC that can play Yakuza Zero, Nioh, or Persona 5 at 60FPS or better.

GLORIOUS 60FPS PC GAMING MASTER RACE WINS AGAIN

>>382056767
Consoles getting exclusive games released doesn't make the other sub-60FPS games perform better.

>>382056767
Show me a nip developer that can not just launch, but optimize their games so that most of them aren't broken messes and I will.

>>382055005
No AC ran 60fps anyway.

>>382056767
Persona 5 doesn't even run at 60FPS on PS4 nigga

>>382057057

except the ps2 games fucking retard

>>382057286
They maybe targeted 60fps but even on a empty sky the games never achieved it. Or will you pretend the game didn't slowdown constantly.

>>382057448
They actually didn't you absolute fucking moron. There's one mission in Zero (The fortress assault) that had a few slowdowns but that's it.

>>382055980
to be fair Drive Club VR is one of the worst looking PSVR games.

>>382055005
>console game staying at 60fps
this literally never happens

its gonna be on pc anyway

>>382056171
Bandai namco studios ported Tekken 7 and will port this. The engine is same. What makes you think it will be a bad port?

>>382055005
>any game
>looking at the sky
>infinite fps
What the hell is this some kind of conspiracy?

yeah, this is a fucking disgrace

i guess ill get it on pc but i dont know if ill be able to run it at 60 anyway

id upgrade if fucking crypto faggots didnt destroy the gpu market

>>382057448

ffs anon don't talk about games you haven't even played

>>382055005
I hate how pretty pictures are what takes priority nowadays instead of performance.

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>>382057634
Ahem

>>382058332
>expecting 2d sprite in a next gen game about planes.
What the point of releasing AC7 if you want shit graphics?

>>382058687
Who cares about graphics?
Sure, they look good, but I would take 900p if it meant 60fps precisely because it is a game about planes.

>>382058687
More missions
More planes
More giant aircraft
More superweapons
More buddies
Further expanding and exploring the world of Strangereal

>>382055005
They might as well lock the game at 30 on consoles, so at least it will be a stable frame rate.

>>382058850
>>382059129
You guys are retarded AF if you don't see the point of having next gen graphics in a fucking game about planes.
Immersion is perhaps one of the most important point. The volumetric clouds have an influence on the gameplay as well, etc.

>>382059259
The problem seems to be that it is locked at 30 and still dips.

>>382059439
Maybe watch the video first asshole???

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PC WINS AGAIN

>>382059289
The only kind of game with less shit to render than a plane game is a space game. All you have are the aircraft and a very low detail ground. There is no excuse for it to not be maintaining a solid sixty frames.
If these volumetric clouds are so demanding that they're causing the frame rate to dip down to half of its baseline, it is causing the experience to suffer.

Dunno why

They literally got 60 on fucking older games and that was sort of open too. What the fuck are they doing

>>382059778
You realize that particles effect are the most demanding thing right?
Just play on a FUCKING PC if you aren't happy. Ac6 was running at 30fps as well. So you want Ac6 graphics at 60fps???

>>382059787

adding physics heavy stuff that looks quite nice honestly

>>382059787
Wront AC6 was already at 30fps, and your older games were running at 360p/60fps since the game consisted of 2 poly and every thing else was 2d with a jpg as a back ground.

>>382055818
>UE
>Bad performance on PC
Is that a joke?

>>382055005
>Click on video
>Megalith starts playing

Sometimes digitalfoundry is alright

>>382060347
Where do you think you are.

>>382055005
Can't wait to see this thing on PC. It will be beautiful.

PCbros will never ever get VR !

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3,6,AH3ds.

These were 30 fps as well. Not sure but I'll say Infinity as well. OP you're a colossal faggot.

Get a PC you absolute Belkans. Definite edition right there.

>>382055005
>not getting a xbone X

If you want to play games at 60fps, why are you still buying consoles?
How have you morons not figured this out yet?

Is this edited, why is the fps so low looking at an empty skybox?

>>382055005
it's coming to PC. so that doesn't matter.

>>382060386
It's pretty clear that the guy doing the video likes Ace Combat, which was very nice to see.

>What else is there to discuss? I had to ask Kono about the soundtrack, in particular about the songs created for the final missions in the ps2 instalments
wtf, I love DigitalFoundry now.

>>382059289
>Immersion
>on an ace combat game
you have 100+ missiles, and fight veritable hordes per mission, you somehow listen to the radio chatter of every faggot with a radio anywhere near the operation area (fucking people screaming in the ground somehow reaches your ears while flying a jet at supersonic speeds miles in the sky)

there's nothing immersive about ace combat, it's not a fucking flight simulator

How is the emulation on the AC PS2 games. Does it run well on pcxs2?

>>382062732
5 and Zero do. 4 is super fucky with no textures on the player plane, the ground or the hangar.

>>382062691
Immersion =/= simulation dumbass.

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Isn't it on PC, the real question is. Will it go above 60 fps? I'd kill for an ace combat game in 240hz

>>382062236
/thread

what's the point, this game is probably 8 months away at least.

it will probably run worse then too

>>382062905
Did you even watch the video?

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This will be the first AC I've played since Distant Thunder

>>382061848
Clouds

>>382062893
how can you be immersed when everything about an ace combat screams "its an arcade video game".

The focus of AC was always the gameplay and cheesy story, immersion barely even comes up. The cockpit is still static for fucks sake.

>>382058345
I own that game, and it runs great on my PS4 Pro, but come on, nothing to brag about. Simple graphics on a short track. It's really easy to achieve 60FPS.
Horizon Zero Dawn on the other hand, it's unplayable, I've tried many times but after 15 minutes my eyes are all red and tired.

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>>382055005
This is what you get for letting your company overlords fall for the 4K meme

gamers are dumb enough to fall for 4k which is way cheaper and easier to do than a stable 60 fps

>>382063141
I'm sure they'll find some way to fuck that up too. Remember when this generation first started Sony and microsoft were going on and on about how every game was going to be 1080p with 60 fps. Then a few months after the PS4 and the bone came out all the typical media shills were asking why everyone was "suddenly" obsessed with framerate.

there better be a toggle to turn chromatic vomit off

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>>382055005
Looks like all those cloud physics are taxing the systems, along with weather affects and rendering everything around player. So you get dips even when looking at the empty sky.

>>382063115
Do you know how it feels to be in a fucking cockpit? No. But somehow you feel like you are in.
It's like saying "wow the way the water drops realistically react to the speed on my windscreen is useless, i'm not playing a sim" while playing driveclub.

>>382055005
wow, all the Ace combat games were 60fps

Well, this is no surprise. Kono doesn't really seem to care about the game part of games so much. He was in charge for AC5 and AH, and they both put that whole cinematic experience thing ahead of being fun to play.
I just hope the level design is good instead of relying super hard on scripted events like his other games. FPS can be fixed by playing on PC. Level design can't.

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I'm sure it'll be 60fps on PC

>>382063541
you can be immersed, but the focus on ace combat was never immersion. That's what I'm saying.

Going for 60fps is much more important for this kind of game.

>>382055005
60fps is only a big deal in exclusives.
Multiplats should just target visuals and give no shit about console performance.

>>382063624
Except the last two. Modern games are shit.

>>382063651
Mein Fuhrer, the game's physics engine relies on framerate to work properly.

>>382063509
This is what I'm most worried about. Chromatic aberration makes me feel sick.

>>382063659
No lmao. I prefer playing last gen graphics on 30 fps, especially since 99% of the screen is a fucking sky, and motion blur for the rest.
If you want disgusting graphics and feeling like you are playing a ps2 game thats up to you.
Or you could buy a fucking PC.

>>382063808
Well consoles would be totally fucked then, since the demo framerate jumps around from 60 to 30 depending on what's on screen at the time.

>>382062732

all three run perfectly in software mode (the original ps2 ''experience''), but keep in mind software mode is 1:1 with the original ps2 in everything meaing the same resolution and texture filtering as the ps2.

5 and zero are running now pretty much perfect in opengl hardware mode, that means you can play them with graphic enhancements and resolution to 4k and beyond

>>382055005
Yanno, as someone who generally has no problem with 30 fps and thinks 60+ is hugely overrated except in a very small handful of cases, this seems like one of those cases.

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>>382056627
>cheaper

about that

>>382064467
You can't read, can you?

>>382064467
>sold by literally whos who jack up the price
rip newegg, used to be a good site. amazon does the same shit too.