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Metroid: Samus Returns Hands-On Preview

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UBpHhTa0ao

Preview event held in NY.
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In 1991, Cafe Nintendo makes a chocolate chip cookie. People like this chocolate chip cookie.

Over the decades, Chef Sakamoto keeps putting out chocolate chip cookies with more salt. The sales for Sakamoto’s salty cookies go down. Cafe Nintendo does not respond to the market. Instead, Cafe Nintendo keeps trying to sell Sakamoto’s increasingly salty cookies.

An amateur cook puts out a chocolate chip cookie with more chocolate. Everyone celebrates! If only Cafe Nintendo would put out chocolate chip cookie with more chocolate or, at least, without the salt.

Cafe Nintendo’s response is to send thugs to the amateur chef, bust up his kitchen, beat his ass, and destroy any existence of the chocolate chip cookie with more chocolate.

Cookie eaters are stunned. Why did Cafe Nintendo do this? “We are protecting our IP.” (IP stands for Intellectual Property which applies equally across products including cookies.)

The truth of this situation is that AM2R is not the issue. The truth of the situation is that IP is also not the issue.

This is all about one thing: Sakamoto.

Stop talking about AM2R. Talk about Sakamoto. Nintendo is circling the wagons around Sakamoto
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>>382035027
Seems promising.
Only 3 months to find out
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>>382035990
>food analogy
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>>382035990
>Stop talking about AM2R
you're the first person in the thread to do it?
no one fucking cares, the game is still readily available, not to mention completed. fuck off autist
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>>382036297
With all of Sakamoto’s mistakes, you would think he’d be fired from Metroid franchise. But no. We have Metroid Returns (i.e. Sakamoto Returns) of a 3DS remake of Metroid 2.

Yet, AM2R has to be removed from the internet because Nintendo was scared.

Scared of what? Scared that an AMATEUR WORK can compete and outdo a ‘professional work’? Or is it more scared of how Sakamoto is perceived as being completely talent-less?

It raises the question: what does it take to get fired from being an IP director at Nintendo? Apparently making terrible games that sell bad and review bad is not enough. So what is it, Nintendo? How does one get fired at being IP director?

And why not give 2d Metroid to Retro? Retro can make 3d Metroid and can make 2d platformers. Clearly, Retro is qualified to make 2d Metroid. But Nintendo will never allow it because it would completely destroy Sakamoto who has nothing to list in his game accomplishments except for stuff like Tamagotchi Life and Warioware.
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>>382036101
>>382036297
Stop responding to obvious pasta
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>>382035990
>>382036449
What the fuck is this?
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>>382035027
Honestly the only way this game can be worth it after AM2R would be a huge rework of the map that makes it less of a linear tree. That general design choice of the original held AM2R back as well. Shedding it would make this remake worth it but i know that's not happening.

They should have done a Fusion remake instead before the Fusion remake guy finishes.
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>>382036449

The fuck are you gurning about? It's still freely available if you're not retarded
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>>382035990
this is really gay
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>>382037056
The map is completely reworked but it will probably still be as linear as the original was.

Also what does Fusion gain from being remade, it still holds up well today.
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>>382037637
Nintendo would gain from making a remake that wasn't already thrashed.
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>>382035990
Shut the fuck up, Sean Malstrom.
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>>382036449
>a free game using their ip
Good job not realizing how bad that is if a business does not defend their up

Let's use your retarded food analogy someone took the metro if cookie used some of the newer ingredient and added his own, you bet your ass Keebler would sue the shit out of you
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>>382035027
let me know when there's a hands on preview of Theresa
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>>382035027
Will we ever get a straight-up gameplay video without anybody talking over it?
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I wonder how the opening will be? he mentions Mother Brain being shown?
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This guy sounds like Inspector Gadget.

>This new Metroid is a lowt ove fuun.
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Preorders for the special edition still haven't gone up yet,right?
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>>382041930
>no brown bricks, causing gadget to lose his shit.
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who wants to bet how much sakomoto will fuck up the game like he did with other m?
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>>382043285
He won't
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>sakamoto makes one shitty game
>suddenly people think he can't make good games anymore

this is only a metroid fanbase mindset right?
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>>382043742
Halo fanbase as well, if 343 manages to make Halo 6 good, the Bungie faggots will come in and hate the game and shill two of Bungie's worst Halo games ODST and Reach when the only good Halo games Bungie made was Halo 1-3 because they had talent that gave a shit when they made those three games.
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>>382044029
ODST was good. It was just overpriced for what it was. Reach was good too.
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>>382043742
To be fair, it was an incredibly shitty game.
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>>382044184
That's debatable, both felt like a significant downgrade after the Halo Trilogy, this is mainly due to guys at Bungie leaving to make Destiny and leaving the company for good after Halo 3.
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>>382045027
Still better than any of those shitty Prime games
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>>382046990
Nice try Dobson.
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>GameXplain
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>30 posts in and the anti-Prime memery has already started
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>>382047442
As opposed to...?
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>>382043742
He made two shitty games, Fusion was an abomination.
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>>382047735
XameGplain
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>>382047764
t. Primefag
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>>382043285
nobody can be dumb enough to make other m twice
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>>382047764

fucking lol that to this day there are still people who think fusion is anything but aggressively mediocre at the absolute best

terrible, scratchy sound, forgettable soundtrack, stupid "story" and a direct precursor to the game that put the franchise in a coma
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>>382047989
Shut up
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>>382047735
ManSplain
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>>382047764
Kill yourself you stupid mother fucker, Fusion was great.
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He even doesn't can edit at all the video, just video repeats over an the trailer, mercury steam beeter not fuck this up, swear to god
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>>382048294
He said he wasn't able to capture footage of the event, but either way, you can see what they played on the treehouse.
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Test
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>>382048448
looks good to me
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>>382035990
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>>382047989
>a direct precursor to the game that put the franchise in a coma
I think Zero Mission played a bigger role, that's where you see the start of the weakass waifu shit that Sakamoto shoehorned in after Yokoi died and the people who actually created Samus moved on to other stuff.
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Impressions from TIME:

>As did I during my brief hands-on with the game. It felt like coming home and simultaneously rethinking what home means. Metroid: Samus Returns is more than memory lane traipsing or fanbase indulgence. It feels poised, fluid, intuitive, and in motion, little like the original flat black-and-pea-green Game Boy adventure. It is both what series fans didn't know they wanted, and if you take a longer view of the 3DS's prospects as an established vehicle for distinctive experiences, precisely what Nintendo's two-screen handheld needs.

http://time.com/4831665/metroid-samus-returns-hands-on-nintendo-3ds/
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>>382049631
>Time
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>>382049631
>what series fans didn't know they wanted
>implying people haven't been dickriding AM2R for like a year
>implying people weren't going mental for a new 2D Metroid in those years when Nintendo was consistently dropping good 2D Castlevania games on the DS
I feel like I need to become a gaming journalist, it's got to be the most halfass job in the world.
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>>382047735
GameAsspain
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EU
>game
>soundtrack
>artbook
>"S" logo pin in a fancy box
>Morph Ball keychain
>all packaged in a steelbook shaped like the old Metroid II GB cart

NA
>game
>soundtrack
>not even any special packaging

I don't understand. EU doesn't give a FUCK about Nintendo. Why do they always get the best shit?
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Why are there so many contrarian primefag and 2dfag falseflaggers? Real metroid fans only hate other m and federation force and are happy the series isn't dead on either plane. Fuck off.
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>>382052572
>EU doesn't give a FUCK about Nintendo

but that's wrong.
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>>382035990

FOOD

ANALOGY
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>>382035027
I wanna put my hands on Samus!
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>>382044029
343i has made like 5 Halo games and they're all shit
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>>382045374
>Leaving to make Destiny

Uh you know Destiny was made by Bungie right? And ODST was originally supposed to be a 15-30$ expansion
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>>382053238
Yes, those guys didn't leave Bungie "yet" but they weren't involved with ODST and Reach's development which is why both were shit.

>>382053110
They only made two, Halo Anniversary and MCC were outsourced. Halo 4 campaign wasn't too bad but it wasn't great either, everything else about Halo 4 was just COD in space and 343 took too long to patch the game along with add content that should have been in the game since launch. It also didn't help that they outsourced Forge in Halo 4 as well. Halo 5 was just bad decisions after bad decisions. Making the same mistake Bungie did with Halo 2's, ODST, and Reach's campaigns and sidelining the Chief, removing split screen and lan, once again adding content to the multiplayer late when that shit should have been there at launch, again.
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Shit, Metroid threads continue to be no fun and false flag even though Nintendo is trying to satisfy both 2D and 3D fans.
Just pirate AM2R and wait for the new titles to drop, you fucking faggots instead of complaining.
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Why are Metroid threads always so fucking awful? You can't go even five posts before shitflinging and false flagging starts and the thread always dies in flames.
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>>382053915
>>382054074
They were going pretty well for about a week after E3.
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>>382035990
>>382036449
Who are you Sean Malstrom and why should I care about you?
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>>382054162
I don't want the metroid fanbase is the worst memes to perpetuate but this is bad, just about reaching Metal Gear ruse cruise threads levels of faggotry.
We even have a similar autistic with too much time on his hands attention seeker in Sean Malstrom
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>>382049631
TIME cares about video games?
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>>382054162
>>382054756
Oh fuck I forgot to get rid of my nametag
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>>382054162
Not them but every time we try to have a good 2D Metroid thread Sean Malstrom, ACfag, GF_Sybb, FEfag, Dobson/Moviebob, Cody, and Zero Suitfag always try to ruin them, it's annoying.
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Sorry >>382054162 I meant to reply to >>382054168
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>>382054162
It's because it's Summer and the kids have nothing to do. This is the face of the next generation of nu-/v/'s and it's not promising. Hitler did nothing wrong, he just was born too early and targeted the wrong demographic.
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>>382035990
>It's a reddit spaced food analogy
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>>382043742
>this is only a metroid fanbase mindset right?
No. Smashtards are persuaded Sakurai is literally fucking Satan for making Sm4sh even though Kid Icarus Uprising proves he's still a talented dev.
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>>382055529
When did people decide Sm4sh was bad? It blows Brawl out of the water, although I miss SSE and the stage creator because the Sm4sh stage creator was pure ass.
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>>382055529
KIU is such a good fucking game, I'd love for more games to use its control scheme but a lot of people couldn't handle it
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>>382055529
If anything, Mashed Potato is bored as fuck of smash and would rather make other games. Uprising is oozing with character while sm4sh is phoned in, with Namco fixing everything he left broken.
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>>382055529
but smash 4 is great, its brawl thats the black sheep
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>>382052852
It would be extremely painful...
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>>382055316
Is there anything that outs a newfriend as hard as the "reddit spacing" meme?
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>>382053859
You're forgetting Halo: Spartan Assault and Halo: Spartan Strike.

MC collection was 343i's fault and Halo 4 had a shit story
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>>382055870

Smash has no black sheep because they're all so similar with minor tweaks.
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>>382056050
Is there anything that outs a newfriend as hard as getting angry at someone saying "reddit spacing"?
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>>382056050

Is there anything that outs a newfriend like caring about the Reddit spacing meme, which only became a thing recently? Literally no one has cared about this shit for the decade-plus I've been coming to this horrible website.
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>>382036449
Fuck off, retard.
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>>382057001
Like Halo Wars, no one gave a shit about a couple of phone games. When it comes to Halo, people only care about the FPS series not the RTS series, or the phone games.

>MC collection was 343i's fault and Halo 4 had a shit story
MCC was outsourced but you are right on that part, they should have just released Halo 2 Anniversary, they've even lamented that. Halo 4 story was crap but it was still better than Halo 5, I also found myself enjoying the campaign more than ODST and Reach as well.
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>>382057327
Stop responding to 4 hour old pasta, retard.
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>>382057327

Malstrom doesn't post here, but I'm curious why you think that post is wrong.
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>>382049514

zero mission's not off the hook either, it's just less bad
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This thread is a shithole, let's remodel it.
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>>382035990
Sakamoto created metroid. Gunpei Yokoi did not create metroid. He was more of the business guy. Sakamoto wasn't alone but he has always been the key guy even if Other M sucked
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>>382048294
why is metroid in a pizza
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>>382035990
Stealing recipes is for talentless hacks, so yes in your analogy they got what they deserved
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>>382046990
this, fuck haloid
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>>382059790
I thought he was talking about yokoi at first too
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>>382059880
It's prom night.
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>>382059465
I like the way you think
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>>382049631
anyone who calls themselves a metroid fan and isn't excited for this deserves to be euthanized
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>>382052572
Because Shibata is so suave,
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>>382063404
this desu
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what i really enjoy doing personally is looking at penises that are not my own. when i see a man's genitals my brain lights up and i think "oh cool, there's that thing that I like"
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>>382036449
>Retro can make 3d Metroid

Yeah, poorly.
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>>382065303
The vast majority disagrees.
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>>382036449
>why does noone make a disney ip game and only happens when its nintendo?
> can someone make a Tarzan ps1 fangame? or even ducktales?
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>>382035990
He's moving to Sakamoto after BOTW?
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>>382065303
I think you might be autistic. When was your last appointment, anon?
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>>382050682
>Nintendo was consistently dropping good 2D Castlevania games on the DS
>nintendo
>dropping castlevania
Yea you'd make a great journalist
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>>382035990
Why do you have to start shitflinging fights?
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>>382037637
>area 4
>when the areas didn't even have names in Metroid II
How do you know that's area 4 in Metroid II?
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>>382068550
I think that's an error on the original image creators part.
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>>382059790
Reminder that the co-director of Other M is Takehiko Hosokawa.

The director of the Mario/Wario Land games.
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>>382068550
While nothing was ever said officially, strategy guides liked to label every section of the game where the music cut out as an Area or a Phase. To that end there were about 10 or so in the game. "Area 4" in that image is indeed one of the areas where the music cut out to background noises.
AM2R took a different approach and left that area and a couple others as part of the main cavern, so there aren't as many distinct areas.
And since Samus Returns is deviating from the original map so much, we don't have a clue what's going on there, but the areas are labelled.
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>>382068550
People tend to split up the regions by the earthquakes. Every time you get a new selection of Metroids to kill and can't progress further until you do so it's considered a distinct area, no matter how big or small.

Whether the remake follows suit with that remains to be seen, but the map looks so heavily modified that it likely doesn't matter.
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RE: What kind of person is Samus?

Not a lot to go on besides sprites appearances and gestures/body language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Z4bwdxn_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlvN0TxXhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKQqrM75Onw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cToWXwcaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wef5VQnFQdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmCiYwZaW6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciPxUORv1ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSVXFeCO4A4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2XsSuzpny0
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>>382069362
>RE: What kind of person is Samus?
>tfw typed up a long, thought out post in that thread about how I felt Samus was like
>thread got deleted

Should've copy and pasted just in case but fuck it. That shit was so annoying.
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>>382069695
>deleted
good. it was very obviously a waifufag thread.
nice to see the mods doing their job for a change.
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>>382065303
This, Retro has never made a good game.
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>>382070021
I always wonder about the elevators in Metroid games period, especially the 3D games. Like, why have the built rocket-powered elevators that would take them from one big area, into another completely different area, but make the elevators only able to accommodate like, 40 people at most? I guess they could move supplies and stuff that way but even then, that doesn't seem optimal, because there's only so much you could put on those. Why is there only one elevator in every elevator room? Shouldn't there be way more than that? Can they not into logistics? Why are those areas linked together specifically? And so on.
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>>382070102
Every single game Retro has ever made, aside from Prime 3, has been god-tier.

One of my favorite devs by far and away.
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>>382069362
A person that kills bad guys without saying too much.
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>>382070529
And even Prime 3 was damn good.
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>>382055529
I think he should only work on Non-smash projects, I think he's a very talented director, but I don't like Smash 4 except for Smash Run.
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>>382069865
Vidya waifu threads are still vidya related, unfortunately.
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>>382069362
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>>382070662
Nah, it wasn't that good at all. But it was a thousand times better than Other M and Federation Force.
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>>382044029
But anon, 343i IS shit. Did you even play Halo 5?
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>>382070812
>wasn't good at all
This is why people hate the Metroid fanbase, faggots like you with autistic taste that hate everything
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>>382070973
Sorry I don't like literal shit cuckdrone.
If you want babies shit with the most cancerous handholding and plot ever with trash gameplay fine, go suck 343 halo cock or something.
Prime 3 and all of it's fans will always be shit.
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>>382070973
I don't make it a secret that I fucking love the Metroid franchise, to the point where it's one of my favorite series in gaming. I just didn't like that particular game, for good fucking reason. Jesus.
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>>382070751

damn she's literally bulma
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>>382035990
This is the worst post I have read on /v/
I think you deserve an award.
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>>382070973
Anon people have good reasons to not like Prime 3 and Fusion, you don't have to be an asshat
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>>382071662
Is that from the first game?
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>>382069362
i like to imagine samus as a semi autistic quiet loner with an ethical sense of justice.
Kind of a female JC Denton.
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>>382071759
Third.
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>>382071604
maybe its just because I played all the Metroid games when I was younger, but why do people not like Prime3 and Fusion?

Hell, Fusion is my most played one, though it may just be nostalgia. That game used to scare me shitless but then I completed it as I got older.
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>>382070872
Haven't yet but plan to, I hearing a different story on mp, campaign level design is an improvement over Halo 4 even if the story is shit and you barely play Master Chief. ODST and Reach showed that Bungie are hacks without the guys who actually give a shit about making a good video game. Reading about Bungie's Halo development I'm surprised at how good Halo 1-3 turned out and how shit ODST and Reach turned out.
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>>382072321
I think it's the forced linearity, the plot, and the removal of some of the advanced movement from Super, but I'm not sure. I don't hold Fusion in contempt.
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>>382072542
Aren't the majority of Metroid games linear?
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>>382072321
>but why do people not like Prime3 and Fusion?
Because they're heavily story driven and sacrifice a lot of exploration because of that.
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>>382071920
>My visor is augmented.
>You think you know better than FEMA what to do with next month's Phazon's shipment?
>...just another parasite.
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>>382035027
>made by mercury steam
Directly to the trash


>>382035990
Fuck ninty am2r was so good desu
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>>382072603
See, the thing is that people don't like when Metroid games tell them what to do or where to go. The feeling of "Aha" when you find a power up and remember where you need to use it to explore even more gets lost when something or smoeone gives you orders.
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>>382072621
That and bomb hopping and wall jumping were gimped in Fusion
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>>382072603
Are the majority of Metroid games linear? I don't know anon, you mean the series characterized by labyrinthine map design, sequence breaking and advanced movement tech to support that?

We say Fusion is "linear" because it generally lacks some of those basic features. There's really about 1 major route thru the game, whereas prior entries could be tackled in a few different directions based on player skill.
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>>382072992
True
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>>382035990
>t. some fat fuck virgin who thinks food analogies are the best because he loves food, even when the analogies don't make sense.
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>>382072603
It masks it's linearity well. Like for example lets say you get to a door you can't open. You try using your missiles but they don't work. So there's a zone that the game doesn't want you to go to but it tells you that through its own game design. Later you find Super Missiles and it turns out they're the same color as the door you couldn't open. But the game leaves it to you to remember that. Or maybe you forgot but all the pathways you got lead to dead ends so you have no choice but to try your new weapon against the door.

Either way it's the game design that guides you through the game and pushes you forward, not a stupid textbox or cutscene trigger. And there are even ways to sequence break the game to get to out of bounds areas early if you know what you're doing. Unlike Fusion where shuts off areas until you complete the mission the game wants you to complete.
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>>382072621
>heavily story driven
I feel like people don't know what that means. When people say story driven I think of something like MGS or an rpg with hours of dialogue and cutscenes to pad everything out.
Fusion and prime are just the occasional talk to static npc in a certain room thing and 95% of the time you're off on your own somewhere.
They're certainly still more exploratory and isolationist than most other games.
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>>382035990
>Cafe Nintendo’s response is to send thugs to the amateur chef, bust up his kitchen, beat his ass, and destroy any existence of the chocolate chip cookie with more chocolate.

Copyright holders are legally required to protect their IP at all times or else they can accidentally set a precedent that allows people to do things without permission or could even result in revocation of the copyright entirely.

AM2R was known about for YEARS. It was hyped like crazy and everyone knew about it and was excited about it. Nintendo could have stopped it there, but they waited until the game was not only finished, but publicly released. The game had an entire 2-3 days where it was freely downloadable from the official website, and now everyone who wanted it has played it and it's still widely available from torrents and fileshares.

Honestly, Nintendo handled AM2R in literally the least shitty way they possibly could have and I'm glad for how they did it because it means now I have the best Metroid game of all time downloaded on my computer forever.
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>>382073585
Story driven for a Metroid game. As in there are checkpoints between the exploration where the game throws the story at you. It's still better than a lot of other "Metroidvania" style games but still annoying within the Metroid series.
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>>382072603
The intended sequence can be broken pretty easily in Super and to a lesser extent in Zero Mission, but it is impossible to do so in Fusion, barring that shinespark trick.
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>>382073849
Not even barring that because the game congratulates you for doing it and then tells you to go back
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>>382073585

why would you compare it to RPG games and not to other Metroid games?

>woah that sure is a big elephant
>not as big as the SUN though, and the sun isn't even a very big star
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>>382072542
>>382072621
Oh yeah, forgot about Prime3's story driven shit. I still enjoyed it, though Prime 2 is probably my favorite of the 3d Meetroids

I always tend to overlook Fusion's linearity/story stuff. Never seemed to bother me, though that's probably nostalgia kicking in.

Whats everyone's favorite suit, aside from the classic Varia? pic related
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Will they add a self destruct sequence like ZM did?
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>>382073585
>Fusion and prime are just the occasional talk to static npc in a certain room thing and 95% of the time you're off on your own somewhere.
Yes but most Metroid games don't have any dialog and people like it that way. When something like Fusion Prime3 and Other M start imposing their story in a series that doesn't need it it's not surprising that fans become upset
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>>382074213
Zero Mission (Legendary) Varia.
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>>382074213
The PED is my baby
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>>382074213
I swear I'm the only person who likes the PED suit. It's basically patchwork armor that still manages to look powerful and intimidating.
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>playing through prime 2
>did the item loss skip and have been fucking around in-game
>agon wastes went smooth
>grab seeker missiles before entering torvus
>dude at energy controller won't give me the translator
>only telling me to go get the gravity boost
How creative am I gonna have to get to be able to finish the game. I don't feel like starting over again.
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>>382074527
bruh
>>382074414
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>>382074414
>>382074527
Oh. Guess I'm not the only one
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Nintendo uses marketers just like everyone else does. E3 is one big marketing event. Metroid Other M and Federation Force blew up in their faces, and they want Metroid Samus Returns to be successful. “I just cannot wait to play this game!” says the marketer. “Metroid has terrible fans!” scolds the marketer. And yet we embraced a Metroid made by an unknown development studio.

The marketers are having a tough time because of Retro Studios. Retro Studios, which created THE BEST SELLING Metroid game of all time, Metroid Prime, showed that Sakamoto is not needed to make Metroid games that sell strong and are highly received by fans.

Sakamoto… let me tell you about him. When Other M launched, they tried to make Sakamoto into a ‘game god’ like Miyamoto with Mario or Aonuma with Zelda. Aonuma has the excuse of never having played games when he started making them. Sakamoto is someone who is hellbent on MY VISION OR ELSE and will literally march the wrong way.

Sakamoto was never a ‘designer’ of Metroid. He was a pixel artist. Gunpei was manager of the group. Sakamoto doesn’t even know the technical side of video games! This is why Nintendo has to get a Team Ninja or Mercury Team to partner up with him where they get to put out ‘his vision of Metroid’ out.
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>>382074212

the clean saturated colors of the nes sprites are oddly appealing
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>>382074803
Stop, your stupidity is starting to become deadly.
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>>382074550
How about you play the game like it was intended. I hope you're stuck forever.
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I got to play this at the same NY event actually as press for a moderately sized Nintendo news channel on YouTube.

I can answer any simple questions people have if you are willing to blindly believe me. Only one aspect of it I'm actually not legally able to talk about, but I would love to spill the beans here
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>>382074213
Phazon Suit. That subtle force field around it was a nice touch.
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>Nintendo finds out about Metroid 2 remake
>hires a cheap spanish studio to make a remake
JUST
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>>382075927
can metrod crawl??
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>>382075783
wow rude
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>>382072271
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>>382076146
Poor France
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>>382076014
Obviously yea
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>>382075927
Can you move while doing the circular aiming? Is there still a diagonal aim button?
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>>382076436
No and yes
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Metroid Other M was the clearest and most obvious title to point to Sakamoto not having a clue what Metroid is about. I won’t go into details as to why as you have all heard them. But let’s look further.

Metroid Fusion destroyed the Metroid storyline. So linear with too much stupid dialogue. Sakamoto doesn’t understand gaming. He just wants to be like an italian movie director.

What was GOOD about Fusion is that it shared some of the gameplay of Super Metroid. But that is about that.

What was GOOD about Zero Mission is that, aside from some of its Super Metroid gameplay, it shared the CONTENT of original Metroid. This spared Zero Mission from storytime with Adam.

Did you know that Metroid Samus Returns will have cutscenes? Oh yes. Sakamoto has to show off his love of Italian movie directors.

More fundamental is that Sakamoto is determined that Samus be a ninja where we want her to be a WOMAN in a BADASS SUIT. Samus is the video game version of Spenser’s Britomart. Sakamoto’s vision of Metroid is Sci-Fi Ninja Gaiden on a Space Station… complete with cinematic interludes.
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>>382076551
kys
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>>382076551
Oh shut up.
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>>382076645
>>382076612
Stop responding to him, just let him flounder.
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>>382076506
Thanks. I guess I'll give it a chance.
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>>382076551
>we want her to be a WOMAN in a BADASS SUIT.
first of all, you don't speak for all Metroid fans.
secondly, fuck what you want. It's Nintendo's story to tell, and they've picked Sakamoto to run it. if you don't like it, fine, but stop acting like you own it.
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>>382075927
>Only one aspect of it I'm actually not legally able to talk about, but I would love to spill the beans here
So which aspect?
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>>382075687

Stop giving him (You)s then.
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>>382059465
>>382062138
>>382063080
>>382070021
>>382072963
IT BEGINS
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>>382076551

Why you gotta be autistic nigger?

Just why?
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Who the fuck is Sean Malstrom.
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>>382077037
Anon. Please. He's not even responding to anyone himself, don't give him the attention.
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>>382077161
how do you know the responses aren't also him
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>>382077156

The new autistic hotness!
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Now Sakamoto is back to ret-conning old Metroids, this time with Metroid 2.

It will have cutscenes because Sakamoto believes he is genius movie director.

It was have explanations of Chozo and Metroids because Sakamoto believes he is genius creative mind.

It will have everything about Metroid you don’t give a shit about.

The question I have is,

“What does a Nintendo director have to do to be removed from a game series?”

Destroying the lore doesn’t do it. (Fusion)

Destroying the franchise doesn’t do it. (Other M)

The only bright spot in the entire Metroid franchise since Super Metroid has been the Metroid Prime series which Sakamoto has no say. Metroid Prime remains the best selling Metroid game. And it sold on Gamecube!! Meanwhile, Sakamoto has the install base of Wii and his game sells like shit.

We learned from Aonuma’s interview that you don’t have to have any gaming experience whatsoever to be hired as game director at Nintendo. What we’re learning with Sakamoto is that product performance means nothing.

I suspect Nintendo thinks we will all buy it because “2d Metroid.”
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>>382076551
Did you know that Sakamoto made Super Metroid?
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>>382077076
The opening cutscene shows flashbacks to previous Samus missions including her fight with Mother Brain, Ridley killing her parents, multiple scenes of her hunting bounties we haven't seen before, and finally shots of the Phazon Crisis

Not totally sure why that last part specifically is off limits. I guess they don't want to distract from the hype with Prime teases? It's not much, but either way as a long time Metroid fan I thought it was hype as fuck.
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>>382077226
That's very possible. It also means they're way too dedicated to shitposting, and I'll never understand why.
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>>382035027
Still looks like ass. It's baffling that a spic in his basement made the best Metroid game. Proof that Nintendo doesn't deserve this ip.
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Anyone knows about the control scheme? Nobody talks about it but if this is circle pad only it'll be a pain in the ass.
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>>382069362
Fusion had the perfect Samus characterization. She wasn't "RIP TEAR KILL" like so many fans want her to be. She actually came off as thoughtful, heroic, and even jaded. While I imagine her interactions with other people would be short and unsubstantial, I loved how much internal thinking she had.
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>>382076551
>>382077281
Oh my god, I hate you. Just shut the fuck up, Sean.

>>382077341
He hates Super too.
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>>382073585
Metroid fans are allergic to any degree of plot after the advent of Other M.
If Samus Returns has even a single line of monologue or dialogue fans are going to throw a fucking fit.
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>>382075927
Did you enjoy what you played?
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>>382077450
Circle Pad only. Control + Pad activates Aeon Abilities.
Morph Ball can be activated using the touch screen, so I don't see the issue. That was a problem I had playing Fusion on 3DS; morphing could get kinda slow.
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STOP RESPONDING TO HIM YOU FUCKING MORONS
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>>382077360
>Not totally sure why that last part specifically is off limits
Probably because it would firmly cement the Prime games in the same timeline as the other games. Something that's always been a bit up in the air I believe.
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>>382077360
Why does Metroid II need an intro like that?
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>>382077662
Oh god is it ACFag again?
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>>382077726
You all are gonna turn him into that, that's for sure. Unless he's just responding to himself, in which case, he's already ACfag.
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>>382077717

I guess to remind people that though the title says 2 and Samus Returns, it's technically not her second chronological adventure?

It goes OG (or ZM now I guess), Prime series, then II/SR.
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What do Nintendo fans want with a 2d Metroid? Well, start with Super Metroid but with HD graphics and modern atmosphere effects. Similar Super Metroid map, but then add MUCH MORE.

“But Malstrom!”cries the reader. “That would never work. It all has to be brand new.”

Super Metroid is nothing but 8-bit Metroid, spruced up in graphics and modern controls, still at Zebes but with additional areas. Super Metroid turned out all right. Why not Ultra Metroid?

As far as a 3d game goes, use the Zelda BoW “Wow!” engine. The Havok engine even has the ball physics already baked in. Most of the work is already done. The ‘shrines’ would be elevators that take you down to different areas like in the original. Game world is already open air and would work great with space jump. Open World Metroid. DO IT!

It is so odd that Metroid Prime 4 was announced to be in development. Nintendo doesn’t announce games in development. Maybe Nintendo saw the Sakamoto Train Wreck coming with Metroid 2. Or maybe Nintendo saw the reaction to Zelda BoW “Wow!” and wishes to reuse the expensive engine to make a game people want to buy.
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>>382077581
Very much. I'm overly satisfied.

>>382077717
I don't know but it was really enjoyable nonetheless. If the rest of the "cutscenes" in this game are like this one, then I think Sakamoto has found a happy middleground when it comes to storytelling in Metroid. It felt very natural for the series and nothing like the other m cinematic schlock
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>>382077662

You sperging out about people responding to him is just as bad as people responding to him.
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>>382077685
It's always been the same timeline, Prime references Metroid 1 a lot.

The 2D games never directly mention the Prime series, though that's due to the only entry made post-Prime being a remake of a game set before it.

>>382077717
Nintendo's probably assuming that after the long hiatus they need to recap the games a bit to get new players up to speed.
There's a genuine interest in Metroid right now from people who have never touched it just due to the commotion surrounding the E3 announcements.
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>>382077930
Why does Metroid attract so many autists?
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>>382077156
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/SeanMalstrom

https://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/
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>>382077717
Because it's been way too long since the last proper Metroid game, and this game will probably attract a lot of new people to the franchise. It's also some nice fanservice for the old fans.

>>382078065
>Prime references Metroid 1 a lot.
Yeah, but there aren't any references the other way around. Like in Other M it was totally ignored. The idea that the Prime games are its own universe/timeline has been floating around for ages.
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>>382076034
I hope they patched these glitches out in the updated versions.
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>>382077932
The new title doesn't include 2.
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>>382077360
>>382078019
Is there any dialogue or inner monologues or something?
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>>382078071
>why does sonic attract so many autists?
>why does mario attract so many autists?
>why does undertale attract so many autists?
>why does overwatch attract so many autists?
Maybe if there's enough fans of something, some of them are bound to be obnoxious?Maybe no single fanbase is "the worst fanbase", but all fanbases have the capacity for bad in them?
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>>382078527
How many "acfags" are there in these other threads.
I have only seen this kind of autism in metroid threads.
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It’s because Nintendo doesn’t understand Metroid. All Nintendo understands is anime and child-like amusement.

Nintendo doesn’t understand we think 2d Metroid is a work of beauty and shouldn’t be on seven year old hardware on a small tiny resolution.

Nintendo doesn’t understand that Sakamoto doesn’t understand Metroid. Sakamoto destroyed the storyline with Fusion, retconned with Zero Mission, destroyed the franchise with Other M, and is now shitting on all of us with the remake.

Does Sakamoto even watch the Alien movies? Has he seen Prometheus or Alien Covenant? You’d think they could take some inspiration at least aesthetically. Sakamoto has shown he doesn’t have the talent. He keeps failing with these games, why doesn’t Nintendo place 2d Metroid with someone else?

Why is Sakamoto allowed to get near Metroid after the huge, huge Metroid Other M disaster?

At least the two new Metroid amibos look cool.
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>>382078496
No voice acting but Samus had some text during that cutscene. Nothing more then simple "When I began my first mission on planet zebes..." Yada yada yada "It was then I..." Etc. It felt like similar to the opening of super Metroid in a way
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>>382078291
The Prime series was totally irrelevant to Other M's story so it had no reason to be brought up.
There's some inconsistencies with the portrayal of some stuff between Other M and Prime but that's the case for Other M and every game in the series, it's poorly written.

I never saw anyone treat Prime as another continuity until people started shitposting a mistranslated version of that one Sakamoto interview everywhere.
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>>382078171
Sounds like a right cunt
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>>382072621
Super was just as linear if you cut out the autistic sequence breaking which most players never bothered with anyway.
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>>382078657
We do a great job of encouraging this kind of shit.

All we have to do is ignore it. Everyone. No replies. He can only converse with himself for so long.
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>>382077726
No it's not him, Sean Malstrom is an adamant hater of Sakamoto. He hates all of his works on Metroid from story to gameplay, he hates that a story was added to Super Metroid and he feels that 2D Metroid since Super have been dumbed down and causlized and he gives over whelming praise for Metroid and Metroid II while acting as though Sakamoto had nothing to do with Metroid NES's success. This guy got banned from all forum sites he was on and make all of these dumbass blogs of how much he hates Sakamoto and Nintendo. He's a serious mental case.
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>>382078879
So Metroid threads are different.

There is clearly something wrong with the metroid fanbase. I think we should be banned to /vg/ or something. Every thread is pure cancer.
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>>382078841
Could you read the thread before responding to a 2h old reply?
>>382072963
>>382073341
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>>382078761
This. I mean you can cite that Samus says that this was her only time working for the GF since she left but then I'll cite that Adam shot Samus in the back because the GF were trying to breed out cold vulnerability even though Metroids already do that as of Metroid 2.
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Doubt they see a necessity in outright stating the two as separate continuities, likely just don't want to intermingle the vision of different developers. But it raises the question of who is developing MP4
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>>382078761
This
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>>382078841

I think a lot of people confuse "linearity" with being given direction, if I'm wording that right. Super has a pretty clear path of progression in terms of what upgrades you get and what order you encounter bosses, but the way to get from point A to B to C and so on isn't laid out for the player and the game requires the trademark mostly-aimless wandering and prodding at dead ends to progress.

The "linear" Metroids (e.g. Fusion) tell you exactly where to go and when for major progression, removing a bit of that exploratory element. In Fusion's case in particular, it straight up locks you off from areas as it goes until nearly the end of the story.
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>>382078761
Since E3 we've had multiple threads about how people would react if Nintendo revealed they're different timelines/universes. With some people going in detail about how many plotholes there are if Prime is in the same timeline. So it seems to be a pretty popular theory.

Personally I'd be glad if Prime was referenced in the Metroid 2 remake, so it would put those different continuity theories to bed.
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>>382074550
If it's anything like the Sanctuary Fortress translator, just scan it from a different angle/distance.
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>>382079175
>a single energy bolt is enough to send chunks off of Samus' armor
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>>382079386
Hey Adam shot Samus in the back with a standard GF round and completely incapacitated both Samus and her armor. Don't knock it.
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>>382079081
>>382079278
Still got plenty 'ahah!' moments when hunting down missiles/energy tanks/power bombs, or simply figuring out how to get from A to B in Fusion.

It was enough for me at least, and I was happy that they at least replaced it with making the space station feel more alive than Zebes, with the SA-X and Nightmare damaging bits of the station or the station itself malfunctioning. Made me more eager to run around the place at least.
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>>382079304
That is literally one person posting the same thread over and over in an attempt to start a shitposting war
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>>382038732
lets be a mongoloid niggershit subhuman and reply to pasta like a redditard
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How much extra time do you get on Phazze per energy tank you've collected in Prime 3?
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>>382079923
99 seconds worth per tank.
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>>382079278
What confuses me is that even the people who shit on Fusion tend to praise the likes of SA-X and the endgame missions as being standout moments in the game. Even though they're scripted elements that only worked in the first place because of the games linearity allowing them to provide objectives and then subvert the players expectations.

Whenever Fusion gets criticism it always feels like it's just being criticized for not being Super Metroid without taking into consideration the context. It's an action game first and foremost but the elements that make it a good action game are treated as objective weaknesses. It's no different from the people who shit on Hunters as one of the worst Metroid games because it had a weak single player campaign when the game is a handheld Quake clone built around its extensive online multiplayer, they're missing the bigger picture.
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZS_o9tqWHmJHGmuQRRkfiqhgZIApfLXM
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>>382035990
Stay angry AMR2 babby
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Fun fact: Metroid Fusion is the greatest game in the series, and one of the greatest games of all time.
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>>382080171
what's there to be angry about my good shill? AM2R was finished and released as well as patch fixed and there's nothing your employer can do about it. :3
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>>382080471
Fun fact: You are almost correct. It's the best 2D Metroid, but Prime 2 is a bit better.
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>>382035990
What is this meme tier bullshit?
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>>382056050
Only newfags get triggered when their posts get called Reddit spacing. So yeah. Oh, and it's summer. Nice.
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>>382077604
>Circle Pad only
Aaaaaaaaaaand dropped.

HOW THE FUCK are you supposed to play a 2D game on circle pad? Holy fucking shit this is stupid.
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>>382035027

Oh, no. No, nononooo.. Are the Japs making another Metroid? ABORT ABORT ABORT.

SEND SAMUS BACK TO TEXAS
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>>382080849
You have 360 degree shooting.
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>>382035027
>AM2R music in the background
nice
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>>382080930
Yeah but platforming SUCKS on circle pad. You can't make quick turns for example, you have input delay in the means of travel distance the circle pad has. Wall jumping would suck ass on this. God I'm mad.
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>>382074803
>He was a pixel artist

He was the director of Metroid, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Zero Mission and Other M. (The only 2D game he didn't direct was Metroid 2) He wasn't a pixel artist, the only Art concept he did was the Original Samus design.
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>>382080886
As a Texan, I approve of this message.
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>>382080849
>HOW THE FUCK are you supposed to play a 2D game on circle pad?
Very easily?
Like I said, the only issue is the Morph Ball because you traditionally have to press down twice which isn't intuitive with a control stick or circle pad, but they fixed that by having an alternative method to activate it.
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>>382080886
>SEND SAMUS BACK TO TEXAS

But they've never made a good game, literal hack studio that could only rip off halo.
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>>382081006
>this whole post
git gud
literally nothing wrong with circle pad controls
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>>382081073
Fuck off. Every 2.5D platformer on the 3DS allows the use of both circle pad and D-pad. Kirby games for example. They know Circle pad is analog input, and analog input sucks for 2D games. This is NOT ok.
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>>382081069
The 2D games were always made by Japs. However, Prime 4 is being made by a new team since most of the Retro Prime team left already.
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>>382081183
See: >>382081159
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>>382035027
why do the graphics look such shit
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>>382081159
>Literally nothing wrong with analog input for 2D games

Yeah go emulate SNES games with the analog stick on your Xbox controller. Super good and precise!
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>>382080886
>>382081125
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>>382081346
I play 2D games with an analog stick all the time. Zero problems whatsoever.
Literally git gud, fag.
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>>382035990
Are you trying to say Metroid 2 is better than Super Metroid? Or any other Metroid game post 1991?
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>>382081458
>PHYSICAL Input delay is "Zero problems"

That's like saying playing online games with 100ms of ping is fine.
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Is Retro even still alive? Tropical Freeze finished development in November 2013 and was only held over to 2014 to fill in dead space. They've been working on a game for nearly four years now and yet have nothing to show for it.

Something is definitely wrong at that studio.
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>>382081321
Because you're seeing a 240p image meant to be viewed on the tiny ass 3DS screen blown up for a 1080p youtube video.
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>>382035990

Why do you fuckers think you're geniuses?
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>>382081687
It's likely going to be a big 2018 title and new IP.
Also, it might have had to be reworked after shifting from Wii U to Switch.
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>>382079175
What is that from?
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>>382080930
>stand still like a fucking turret
>press the melee button when enemy rushes at you

That's exactly what the girl was doing during streaming. It was fucking retarded and it all comes from the circle pad control scheme.
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>>382081125

Yes, well, it's either a Texan-made action-exploration-platforming game with a mediocre-to-good story you can't just rush through, or an autistic self-insert by a Japanese man with too much ego and clearly no understanding (anymore) about what actually made Metroid a good series.

Hence, I'd rather take my chances with the Texans. I mean, she's Texan in spirit, right?
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>>382081665
Don't be upset because I'm more skilled than you are.
I can also play full 3D games with just a keyboard or a D+Pad. It always confuses me how people had trouble playing Super Mario 64 DS.
So basically what I'm saying is: git gud.
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Notice how Sakamoto keeps trying to remove Samus’s suit? Zero Mission completely removed Samus’s suit and made her ninja. Fusion new Samus was removing her suit (they cut it off). In Other M, Samus cutscenes and all were about Samus as a woman.

Metroid games are a story, but it is a story about the suit. The SUIT starts off with nothing and is crappy. But the SUIT gets stronger, better, and you can even upgrade it to VARIA suit (ooohhhhh) or GRAVITY suit (aaaaaahhhhhh). When you get missile and energy tank upgrades, you are getting SUIT upgrades!

The hero is the suit. Samus happens to be the pretty girl inside it. Even the Metroids aren’t that interesting as they have to keep evolving and mutating (Metroid 2, etc.) in order to keep up with the growing-in-power SUIT.
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>>382081967
3D games with 2D input is a different thing. You're always at 100% input values in there, so you're limited but there's no delay on your movement. It's ok just not optimal.

For 2D games it's an entirely different story. If your defense for playing with delay is "git gud" that's about the same as saying driving a fucking car with square wheels and calling it fine.
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>>382074803
How can you be so retarded that you didn't even double check your information?
This guy >>382081041 is correct. The Only 2D game Sakamoto wasn't the Director for was Metroid 2, and he never did Pixel Art.
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>>382081967
It's less about "giting gud" as the games are still easy and more about it being ankward as fuck to play with. It doesn't feel good when you're never in complete control of something.
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>>382081695
not an argument
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>>382082194
>>382082353
I feel bad for you people.
You keep throwing excuse after excuse and not actually trying to git gud.
I have complete control. Why don't you? Because you won't git gud. Pretty simple.
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>>382082472
>I have complete control
As long as it takes you even 0.1ms more than it'd normally take go shift from left to right due to circle pad travel, you don't.

Getting used to shitty controls isn't "giting gud".

I'll either emulate this on Citra since I have a strong computer or use input redirection.
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>>382078741
>Has he seen Prometheus or Alien Covenant? You’d think they could take some inspiration at least aesthetically.

Literally worse than Other M.
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>>382078741
>Sakamoto doesn’t understand Metroid

He's the director and main creative force behind every 3D Metroid that's not Metroid 2, yet he doesn't understand something that mostly he created?
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>>382082814
*2D Metroid
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>>382078741
>Does Sakamoto even watch the Alien movies?
Every Metroid plot point is lifted from the Alien movies so I guess so.

Honestly the thing about he Metroids being an artificial life form already is kinda like prometheus
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When you look at Metroid sales, the less influence Sakamoto has, the better the Metroid sells. Metroid Prime is the best selling Metroid game. “That is because,” huffs the hardcore, “people bought Metroid Prime thinking it was Halo. No one actually likes Metroid Prime.” And yet, Metroid Prime 2 sold over a million. On. The. Gamecube. For a game as difficult and mature as Metroid, the Gamecube is a tough platform to sell on. Metroid Prime 3 also sold over a million, and then its sales fell off a cliff due to the Trilogy version (people would just buy Trilogy instead of Prime 3 of course).

Metroid Prime Hunters also sold over a million. Imagine that!

The real reason why Metroid Zero Mission did not sell that well was because of how bad Fusion was and how bad Zero Mission was. Sakamoto does not know how to make Metroid games. There. I said it!

Even a game like Super Metroid is seen differently today than it was when it came out. I remember. I was there. Super Metroid was fairly disappointing to Metroid fans then, and it quickly entered the bargain bin. Months later, Donkey Kong Country came out and overshadowed it. Metroid went on recess due to Super Metroid. Super Metroid’s late popularity has more to do with how easy the game is compared to other games of its era. Super Metroid is like 16-bit NES Metroid but in Kiddie Mode. As a huge fan of Metroid, I never bought Super Metroid when it came out because I could beat the game in a rental. I did buy it when it was firesold at $20. The last battle with the giant Metroid and Dino Mother Brain was STUPID. But I am sure Sakamoto thinks it is so genius as he made a movie out of it in the intro cutscene of Other M.
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>>382082628
That's the definition of giting gud, moron.
The problem here though is that the controls aren't shitty. You are.
I grow weary of this back and forth. I'm going to bed.
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>>382079751
I'm quite glad that this and Zero Mission fleshed out Samus' backstory just enough to render the manga obsolete. They provided the perfect amount of backstory, whereas the manga was like a proto-Other M.
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>>382082953
>Still has nothing to say about travel delay because it's true
Alright so we agree on that then. Now obviously they're shitty because you have to do extra work for a single action.

You can fuck off now.
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>>382082953
>the controls aren't shitty. You are.

Not him, but are you seriously defending delayed input?
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>>382082814
Well according to him Adam is Samus's father figure even though she was literally raised by Chozo. Also Samus is apparently super afraid of Ridley because she didn't expect him to come back, even though by this point in the story she knows all the monsters on the Bottle Ship are clones taken from the blood and guts on her armor, and Ridley could just as easily be among them. Also how MOM has less exploration than even Fusion with a completed map from the jump and invisible walls and randomly locked doors meant to keep you strung along a narrative. Even though Metroid doesn't typically do that and the ones that do aren't halfway this intrusive. So yeah I'd call his understanding of the series into question.
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>>382082925
Yeah, I'm glad we're getting a new 2D Metroid and all, but in complete honesty, I rather they keep Sakamoto the fuck away from Metroid.
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>>382083050
He is, that's what nintenbros do.
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>>382082998
>samus with fangs
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>>382083193
So since Samus is part Metroid now does she need a constant intake of energy not found in regular food?
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>>382082925
>Even a game like Super Metroid is seen differently today than it was when it came out. I remember. I was there. Super Metroid was fairly disappointing to Metroid fans then, and it quickly entered the bargain bin
This never happened
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>>382083308
She's not part Metroid anymore.
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>>382080824
>newfags actually think summer means anything
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>>382083434
>believing that kike that left us the second he got bought out
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>>382083626
Is that really your argument?
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>>382083691
>le not an argument meymey post

fuck off reddit
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>>382083948
>tells me "fuck off reddit" when he browses reddit himself
Truly amazing
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>>382084038
/v/ isn't reddit normie, nice try though.
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>>382081906
>Shoot first, questions/scanning maybe later

sounds like it
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>>382084038
>>382083948
>>382083691
>>382083626
>>382083434
>>382080824
>>382056050
>>382055316
Both of you fuck off.

FAVORITE METROID POWERUP?
WHAT POWERUPS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE RETURN OR GET INTRODUCED IN METROID PRIME 4?

LET'S GO
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>>382081906
>independent
>tough
>good hearted

She is a certified Texan
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>>382084312
I like the Spazer Beam.
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>>382084312
I want the grapple beam to come back and play a greater roll in combat. Even moreso than the weird context sensitive thing it was in MP3.
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>>382084312
>FAVORITE METROID POWERUP?
Grapple beam
>WHAT POWERUPS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE RETURN OR GET INTRODUCED IN METROID PRIME 4?
Grapple beam
I like the grapple beam
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>>382084483
Get a load of this guy and his good taste
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>>382084335
Holy shit
this is the greatest picture
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>>382070990
>no SamusxU-Mos consensual sex
I guess people just really prefer rape and Adam domming to bro moth people
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>>382081687

Someone at Nintendo said they're big enough to work on multiple games now so maybe they have them pulling a Monolith/always helping out other devs on the side.
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>>382080886
>>382081069
>>382081906
>>382084292
>>382084335
Man now y'all are reminding me of Tex from Red vs Blue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ3rg_qn8vY&t=345s
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>>382084312
Favorite powerup is the speed booster, though I think it would be very difficult to effectively implement in 3D, especially in first-person.
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>>382084312
SPEEDBOOSTER

SPEEDBOOSTER and more Grapple beam

I also really like the screw attack but the speedbooster's noise in Fusion made my dick hard

speedbooster puzzles were my favorite

Which of the screw attack colors do you guys prefer? The yellowish from Prime? Green from Super? I think the Zero Mission one was purple? Again, Fusion's is my favorite
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>>382085198
>Which of the screw attack colors do you guys prefer?
Green all the way. I especially like the SAX sprite when it uses it.
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>>382085198
What Metroid comic is that from?
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>>382085596
It's the official art from the Super Metroid days.
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>>382085596
its from the Super guide pretty sure.
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>>382085724
>nintendo power comic
>official art
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>>382085821
If Nintendo wanted Nintendo Power to survive then they should have kept doing those comics. Would have set them apart from other gaming magazines.
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>>382084448
This desu, even just ripping away riot shields or maiming certain creatures was fun but I kind of want the grapple beam to fill in for quick melee. It should be an extension of combat as much as Indiana Jones' whip is for him. Maybe every enemy can be grappled under a certain health threshold and you can either yank them towards you for a kick finisher or fling enemies around. I want to lasso pirates and throw them from great heights.
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>>382085945
nintendo power got worse and worse the second pokemon was a thing, entire rag became a huge pokemon commercial and nothing else issue after issue.
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>>382084312
>FAVORITE METROID POWERUP?
Speed Booster and Shinespark.
>WHAT POWERUPS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE RETURN OR GET INTRODUCED IN METROID PRIME 4?
The same ones I mentioned. Also the Power Grip, a reworked Space Jump that acts more like the 2D games, and so on.
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>>382074212

AM2R did a phenomenal job with the suit sprites. It's really the perfect compromise between Super and Zero Mission.
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Guys, I still can't find the Wood Beam in Super Metroid. Where is it?
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>>382087331
That game has fantastic sprite work in general. Shit makes me want to pick up pixel art.
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>>382084312
>FAVORITE POWER UP?
Wave beam. I love shooting through walls, and how strong it makes you feel compared to what you just were.
>POWERUPS IN PRIME 4?
I want to see Samus with a booster system, Armored Core style. I want offensive use of the Morph Ball. I want missile pods in her shoulders. I want a Graviton Beam that cuts 70km holes in the planet.

Realistically, it'd be cool to have some kind of melee counter like they introduced in Samus Returns. Something to bat away saber pirates when they get close. Samus' hand comes up, why can't her gun arm?
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>>382055529
then again most of those retards believe what they read online
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>>382048294
>He even doesn't can't
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>>382084448
Instead of that shit, why don't we make the grapple beam more like Widowmaker's grappling hook and allow her to grapple onto basically anything, allowing it to pull her up surfaces or swing anywhere?
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>>382088152
as much as I love grappling hooks that let you climb everything, it doesn't work for Metroid.
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>>382088275
Why not? The 2D games already have the Space Jump, which is almost the same concept in practice.

You'd just need to design the game around abilities like that. Honestly, I want Prime 4 to shake up the items entirely and play faster and sort of crazier in terms of what you're allowed to do with the tools at hand. But as long as they design the game around new abilities like that, it should be fine.
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>>382088275
>it doesn't work for Metroid.

what the fuck I reading. The 2D games already let you fly infinitely and climb up the walls
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>>382088152
I'm imagining Samus yelling like Tarzan while swinging from her grappling hook for some reason
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>>382089348
So do I
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>>382089348
But you could already do that in Super Metroid. Did you imagine that for that game too?
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>>382089541
I don't know it just came to my head man I can't explain this shit rationally
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And now here is the great new Metroid game from failed developer, Sakamoto. The marketers are trying to downplay Sakamoto. “Isn’t that the guy who directed, wrote, and produced Metroid: Other M?” “Yes,” quickly whispers the marketer, “but everyone deserves one mistake.” What about the other abominations of Metroid games he has made such as Fusion? “Let us focus on how he made Metroid and Super Metroid.” No, he didn’t. Those were Gunpei Yokoi games. Kano was the producer for Metroid 1, 2, and Super Metroid. But you don’t hear about Yokoi or Kano because they aren’t at the company any longer so they aren’t useful for PR purposes.

Sakamoto had nothing to do with Metroid 2: Return of Samus on Gameboy.

Did you know that, reader? Metroid 2 was done by Gunpei Yokoi but directed by Kimura (who was the character designer of Super Mario Brothers 3) and Kiyotake(the one who designed the Wario Land games).

The 3DS game is being marketed as a new ‘2d Metroid games’ because Nintendo wants to satisfy its fans. I call bullshit.

This 3DS game is all about Sakamoto. With Samus Returns, Sakamoto gets another stab at his mission to turn Metroid into a 2.5 game (which he attempted to do with Other M) despite the fact that no one asked for a 2.5 Metroid. We want 2d or 3d Metroid, not 2.5 Metroid. There is also no reason why this game cannot be simultaneously ported on the Switch unless Sakamoto insists on utilizing the 3d aspects of the 3DS (which he will, just watch!).
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>>382086683
>>382088152

I suspect if we get an "unlimited mobility" upgrade it won't be the classic space jump, it was always a bit hard to control and 3d would only make that worse, and just making it infinite jumps would be a bit meh, and grapplehooking could get easily abused, I reckon it'll be some sort of super jump, like the ones from the castlevanias or a limited flight mode
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Anyone else kinda miss the super chunky Varia Suit? I do like the Prime design and even the Other M design but there's just something so alluring about about the Super Metroid style outfit. It looks like a chunky 90's toy in the best possible way and really makes Samus look like an absolute tank. I wish we'd get some more merch of her SNES design.
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>>382090331
I had an idea where the Space Jump could give you 3-4 different jumps instead of just a double jump in a different thread. And maybe you could hover after you jump to, to give it some added aerial mobility. Maybe a limited flight boost like D.Va's ability could work too. I think doing that, along with giving you wall-jumps and shit would make for some much more interesting platforming.

And grapplehooking might get abused but then that's Metroid for you. I'd welcome it. Maybe to compensate for it, you might find it late in the game but if you were good, you'd know how to sequence break to get it early, but it'd be tough to get.
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>>382090146
ITS 2:51 AM WHY ARE YOU STILL DOING THIS
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>>382035027
looks like shit
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>>382077490
Her characterization in both Fusion and Prime 3 are perfect. I liked how she was able to feel bad for her comrades that she had to put down, but instead of whining about it or waxing poetic, she just thoughtfully reflects on it.
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>>382090794
Melee Samus is best samus
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>>382091252
Melee Samus is Super Samus you dumb motherfucker.
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>>382091293
So is Brawl Samus you dunce, but Melee is the best Super version
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>>382091426
Brawl Samus is Zero Mission Samus you dumb motherfucker.
Do I also need to tell you that Kerfuffle Samus is Other M Samus?
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Reminder that there was nothing wrong with Other M and Federation Force.

Also there is nothing wrong with liking every Metroid game unless you're a tribal fanboy who is a blight to the series.
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>>382091293
>>382091426
>>382091514
Stop fighting, this isn't what Samus would want. Please be nice and courteous to other, especially strangers.
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>>382091514
Im talking about the power armor you fucking idiot not about zero suit
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>>382091542
Why was the Metroid model that's supposed to be from the Wave Beam being locked away cutscene loaded there? Is that due to the Infinite Speed glitch getting the Wave Beam early or something?
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>>382091617
Samus would want to nuke this whole site
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>>382091661
I'm talking about the Power Suit you dumb motherfucker. Look again, those are Zero Mission detailings.
I know it's hard for you because it uses Super's Power Suit as a base and you have such a hard-on for that, but it's still slightly different.
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>>382087331
fantastic in ripping off fusion
> is it too hard for the devs to make their own base?
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>>382091824

it doesn't even look anything like the fusion sprite you absolute retard
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>>382091716
Evidently, skipping the cutscene where you get the Wave Beam from ISG causes the other Samus cutscene model to freeze and stay there. I just left and reentered the room for the sake of the webm. You find something new every replay, I guess.
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>>382082814
Anon it's obvious he has talent in game design but in terms of narrative ability Sakamoto is a fucking moron. Put him charge of a development team, but keep him far, far away from the writer's room.
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>>382082814

and George Lucas made the original trilogy
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>>382091902
ooh sorry I meant zero mission, its really hard to tell the uniqueness of AM2R design
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>>382092054
Just look at the originals credits and understand how Game Development works. Calling Yokoi, the producer, more important as Sakamoto was to the Project is ridiculous.
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>>382092054
And after what we've seen Disney do. I'd rather have a 1000 Phantom Menace movies instead of JJ Arbram's Mary Sue adventure.
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>retconning the Other M zero suit into Metroid 2

Why? Now it's just fucking confusing. She has it in 1 (ZM), then doesn't have it in Prime 1 but does in the other 2, and now it's the even shitter Other M version in Returns, and then in Super she doesn't have it, then she does in Other M then doesn't in Fusion? Is Sakamoto just going to remake every single Metroid in order until we Get Fusion Reboot, electric boogaloo?
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>>382092315
Yokoi as the producer had an enormous amount of power to dictate what could and could not be done. Sakamoto was the director but Yokoi had to sign off on it. Yokoi created the series and was able to supervise Sakamoto properly while giving him room to create as the director while maintaining a generally hands-off approach. This is standard practice.
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>>382092410
How do we know she doesn't have it in Prime 1? She doesn't take off the suit, just the helmet.
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>>382092905
Before ZM came out. It didn't exist yet.
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>>382092410
Who cares, you're not taking off the damn suit anyway. Also I don't see what's wrong with her Other M model except they made her too short in heels which seems to be fixed here.
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>>382092410
I wouldn't even mind if it weren't for the fucking heels. They're my blue arms, I swear.
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>>382093583
>blue arms

Add the mole and it's the same for me. My incredible autism will never accept it, ever.
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>>382092376

That's so bullshit and you know it. The Disney Star Wars was mediocre and boring, but Phantom Menace was a blight on the franchise until it found a second life through memes
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>>382093579
>the mole
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>>382093876
So
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>>382093920
It's ugly.
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>>382093876
The Green Eyes/Blue Arms or the Metroid Fanbase.

I don't like the mole or the Zero Suit either, but it's only ever seen in Death and Endings so I have a hard time caring about something so inconsequential.
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Brawl Samus is the best Samus
Other M Samus is the worst Samus
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>>382094103
So
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>>382094103

This is pretty much the perfect Samus. God tier suit design, and out of the suit, she looks athletic and strong but they didn't go too far and make her look like the hag from Game of Thrones like that one redesign
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>>382094487
I will hate the ZS most likely forever, but if there was one model I thought it looked great on, it's the Brawl one.
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>>382094592
Also her hair is down instead of being in that locks, bangs, and ponytail hairstyle she's been wearing since Zero Mission. Samus looks best with her hair down.
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>>382094823
>boob socks
no thanks
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>>382094487
Nope mainline 2D Samus that means all 2D Samus including Samus Returns are better than every single interpretation of Samus because it's the real thing.
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I think we all agree that Hunters is best Samus.
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>>382095584
See>>382095452
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>>382035027
Looks like garbage
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>>382096552
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>>382096552
You look like garbage
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FUCK I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS GAME
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>>382098279
>Other M in the Prime category
But that's wrong.
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>>382098376
Release date order, silly.
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>>382098376
its just 2D vs 3D calm down
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>>382098456
nm im retarded.
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>>382098376
Yeah, why is Other M lumped in with that halo trash?
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>>382098558
this
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>>382098558
Go away Dobson, nobody likes your fat ass
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>>382098597
Is this "Dobson" the new strawman for Primefaggots?
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>>382092410
>this autism about something that was just a placeholder until ZM

Zero suit is the formalization of what samus wears under the suit. Before Zero mission it was just some underwear because they didn't think too much about it, but it's just normal that if they remake Metroid 2, she's fashioning the Zero suit.
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>>382098673
if you prefer we can call you ACfag
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>>382098673
Here we go. Just have this (You) and leave the thread you falseflagging cuck
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>>382098753
But I'm here to talk about Metroid. If you want to talk about your shitty Prime games then go make your own thread.

Would you go in a Star Fox thread to talk about Overwatch?
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>>382098826
I'd go into a Zelda thread to talk about OoT.
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>>382035027
Jesus fucking Christ, it's like they made it a personal challenge to come up with a game that's the polar opposite of Metroid.
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>>382098753
>But I'm here to talk about Metroid
Sure you do
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>>382098971
so you've never played a metroid game before
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>>382098971
Elaborate
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>>382047735
Someone who doesn't have a 24/7 congestion problem. God fucking damn. That one guy sounds like he has a permanent cold.
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why is it still called metroid prime if metroid prime (dark samus) was killed in the 3rd game
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>>382098971
AM2R shills can fuck off.
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>>382099075

Prime simply refers to the 3D FPS style Metroid games

Hunters and Fed Force had nothing to do with the Prime Trilogy either
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>>382077341
Then it's time for CPS to come in and take the kids away.
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>>382099113
They are all the same shit
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>>382099237
>I have never played them
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>>382036449
>With all of Sakamoto’s mistakes,
He made one.
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>>382082037
>Notice how Sakamoto keeps trying to remove Samus’s suit?
No, because he literally told Team Ninja not to focus on the Zero Suit you dumb wigger
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>>382098971
We're talking about the new Metroid game here, not Other M.
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>>382099523
some of the special moves are worryingly reminiscent of other m
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>>382099456
This
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>>382035027
sure hope it's a "new" 3ds exclusive.
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>>382099719
It isn't
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>>382035027
>these little balls that Metroids drop

He did some research but that gave it away, this dudes literally shilling and has no real Metroid experience. Opinion discarded. I'll wait for a honest fan or even speedrunner hands on who is actually good at 2D metroids.
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>>382099523
Other M is more a Metroid game than the Primes ever were.
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>>382072621
>they're heavily story driven and sacrifice a lot of exploration

What the actual fuck. The exploration is still there, the adventure development is just more streamlined but that's it.
Metroid Prime 2 is the same as those, but with less dialogue lines. Is the most formulaic Metroid ever to the point it can be boring.
Just go to the temple, then the dark world, kill the boss, return the light, repeat over and over.

Prime 3 and Fusion are somewhat original. Although Prime 3 does the same as Prime 2, at least it does it with better taste.

The main problem with Prime 3 is that it doesn't feel as isolated and hostile as the rest of the games. It puts you in a universe with a lot of people, and you work for them. It's a shame there's so much federation bullshit from this game onwards, and I hope Prime 4 goes back to the Prime 1 roots (not likely since it seems Sylux may be back).

Anyway, Prime 3 is fantastic and where it really shines is at the Pirate Homeworld and the Valhalla.

Also, the only non linear Metroid is Super.

Don't give me that shit of "Zero Mission is also non linear hurr" because a little of walljumping and minor sequence breaks doesn't make it less linear.
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>>382100268
m8 it's been 15 years, Prime1 is literally Super Metroid in 3D
Let go
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>>382100290
>minor sequence breaks
I suppose skipping all but 9 of the items and fighting each boss in reverse order counts as minor to you.
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>>382100385
this is what haloid fans actually believe
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>>382100454
How is it not
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>>382100385
it's a fucking halo reskin you underage b&

fucking summer
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>>382100454
>>382100517
nice samefag
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>>382100517
That would make Super Metroid a Contra reskin
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>>382100485
I don't remember the slow tank movement or having to scan everything in Super.
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>>382100635
>slow movement
git gud
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>>382100517
>halo reskin
No you're the underage

btw, i like both 2d and 3d metroid
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>>382100780
>btw, i like both 2d and 3d metroid
this isn't special, that's most of the fanbase is. There are just noisy shitposters.
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>>382100635
>slow tank movement
Maybe if you're literally 5 years old
>having to scan everything
You don't have to scan everything
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>>382100719
>>382100840
Prime games are slow as fuck though. I take it you've never played or even seen an actual Metroid game before.
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>>382100978
Prime 1 is only slow if you're no good. Scan dashes and the boost ball make fast movement in Prime a matter of skill and environmental awareness, exactly as in Super.
If you can't speed run Prime in 2 hours or less then you basically suck at the game and are unqualified to comment.
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>>382101060
>You can only go fast if you use the boost ball or some glitch!!!

Says it all really
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>>382101179
>the thing you're told to do in the tutorial is a glitch
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>>382101179
>you are not allowed to exploit the movement or sequence break in Prime but you totally can in Super!!
You're a joke
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>>382101179
>You can only go fast in super metroid by holding the run button
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>>382101313
You don't have to press the run button in Super to go at a fast pace.

Primes default speed is slow as shit, which makes it feel like you aren't even playing as Samus.
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>>382101365
Guess you better complain about the movespeed of Samus in the NES Metroid too
>>
>>382101365
>You don't have to press the run button in Super to go at a fast pace.
lmao
>>
>>382101365
I think sanic is more up your alley
>>
>>382101483
He's certainly autistic enough for the fandom.
>>
>>382101483
Sonic and Super Metroid have more in common than you might think. Momentum is a huge part of platforming and exploration in Super and that's part of what elevates it over ZM.
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>>382036449
Pssst. Sakamoto made Super Metroid, Zero Mission and Fusion. Even if he fucked up with Other M, he can make good stuff
>>
Samus
>Fast, mobile, athletic
>Takes out enemies while blazing past them
>Can wall jump off of walls
>Speed boost through walls
>Shine spark all around the place, pulling off stunts to find secret areas
>Space Jump forever and as high as possible to reach secret areas

Prime "Samus"
>Slow as fucking shit "unless you use the boost ball"
>Have to slow down or stop, lock on and shoot every time you see any enemy
>Floaty as fuck
>Can double jump

Wow Prime games are so faithful to the Metroid games it's incredible.
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>>382069362

> What kind of person is Samus?

This.
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>>382101843
>being this mad
Holy shit did we just gain another autist? How should we call you?
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>>382102263
Nobody with nostalgia for the gamecube has any business calling someone else autistic.
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I played some castlevania mirror of fate just to see what it was like

Of course I know these are 2 different games here but you see, I want to know if the game will run like crap or what exactly. I know Nintendo is not exactly fond of making games that run like shit on their own hardware.

But goddamn this thing is nearly unplayable. This doesn't run past 15 FPS on my 3DS. It's really slow and it feels like crappy shovelware on a 5 year old smartphone. Even the controls are quite laggy so it doesn't compensate.

I'm hoping that at least there's no laggy shit on this metroid game. I know that the graphics aren't exactly an indication but still, I hope it's not just "oh it's so smooth" and then it'll run like crap at times.
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>>382102396
Nintendo is developing Metroid, MercurySteam are just coding it.

And all of the impressions so far praise the game for feeling amazing and totally fluid so I'm not worried.
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>>382101843
This
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>>382077490
The female Master Chief, that's why I love her.
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>>382035990
>video game food analogies
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>>382102358
>actively shits on a perfect transition to 3D because it wasn't made by his jap overlords
>not autistic
I have bad news for you Jimmy
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>>382072621
>this shop
ayy lmao
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>>382103029
>perfect transition to 3D

top kek
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>>382103029
>I have bad news for you Jimmy
No you don't, I already know that I'm interacting with an autist.
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>>382103367
>calls me an autist
>when he made this beauty >>382101843
This is too funny
>>
I actually think the Prime games controlled better on the gamecube

the wii ports were shit
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>>382101843
>>Floaty as fuck
literally never played Super
You have confirmed my suspicions that you are a GBAbby
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>>382103947
the pointer controls were fluid as fuck, only problem was that some sequence breaking techniques were patched out
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>>382068372
>Autistic nitpicking
Well I guess I deserve that.
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>>382104734
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>tfw legacy edition up for preorder on gamestop
>don't know if I should preorder there or wait for amazon to put it up
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>>382103947
I agree, I used to like the Wii controls but over the years they've been disgusting to use for me. I get the positives of playing with them but I don't think I can ever go back to them like how I used to. I hope Prime 4 gives the option to pick what control scheme you like.
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What is it about fan games that reduce it's fans into mentally challenged retards?

>DoTA
>Pokemon roms
>AM2R
>Project M
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>>382101843
>Space Jump forever
Read as: floaty as fuck.
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>>382105304
From the looks of this thread the real culprit seems to be spin-offs.
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>tfw agree with Malstrom's views on Zelda and Mario
>feels he goes too full retard even for me when he brings up Metroid
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>>382105948
I don't understand how he can be so right about Zelda but so so wrong about everything else.
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>>382105651
This. Other M fucked this franchise.
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>>382106384
*Prime
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>>382106440
Prime ushered in the renaissance of Metroid
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>>382106440
>wouldn't it be a cop-out to call it a gaiden?
Stay mad dude.
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>>382106508
and a bunch of faggots who thought that Metroid is something that it's not
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>>382106635
Such as GBAbbies like you.
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>>382105107
Buy ten copies to help MercurySteam overcome its financial problems.
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>>382106551
Out of curiosity, when was that second interview?
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>>382107936
March 2003.
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>>382035990
This is some reddit copypasta like that one defending No Man's Sky right?
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>>382108535
Copy pastes from Sean Malstrom's blog.
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