might and magic

Fuck this quest.
Finding that circus was a bitch and a half.

IIRC you got stuck in the main quest and couldn't do some of the promotions if this bullshit was on too?

>>382024662
Yep there's a certain point you can't go past because you need Nicolai, but if you never activate the quest with some throw away chat option he'll be there without ever running off. I think it's the knight promotion he bars you from.

>>382024504

>tfw MM6 crew leads to the villain from MM7 being freed

>>382026029
I remember the Enroth mention in 7 but I don't remember this. Explain? I didn't play much of 7 admittedly even though I know most people say it's the best one.

OH FUCK a M&M thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-qxU0MJNhA


>>382025757
Paladin promotions, yes.

>>382024504
I just got to needing the four different pieces for the Oracle and man does the game get a bit boring at this point. I haven't even gotten to that Egyptian tomb that everyone has apparent PTSD from. Currently close to finishing the Supreme Temple of Baa, and I've just been flying and portal'ing over all the monsters in the western zones, wondering if I'll ever be strong enough to battle those fucking dragons/titans, even having gotten the +20 all stat boost in Dragonsands and the Obelisk puzzle treasure.

>>382029005
>wondering if I'll ever be strong enough to battle those fucking dragons/titans

O-ho believe me, you will be.

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>>382028618
10/10 post anon

>>382026029
Archibald Ironfist was imprisoned in stone of the end of the Succession Wars (Heroes of Might and Magic II), he is freed in the main quest of Might & Magic VI and leader of the evil faction in Deyja in Might & Magic VII but is never seen again onward.

The world of Enroth is destroyed at the beginning of Heroes of Might and Magic IV though, so there was no point to any of this really.

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Where do you want to go anon?

>>382029902
Sorry, that was meant for >>382027307

>>382029902
Everything after heroes 3/might and magic 8 is not cannon to me.

>>382028618
A-HA!

Guys, will we ever get a non-tilebased, first person team based RPG that won't be shit again?

I remember cheesing everything from afar with Starburst and Meteor shower as a kid. Farmed all the dragons that way.

>>382030226
Is it worth trying that if my arch mage isn't a master of fire and is only a rank ~4 master of light?

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>>382030220
We can only hope but it'll get some flak if something like this releases nowadays.

>>382026029
>tfw MM3 also leads to MM7

>>382030578
It's honestly surprising how many black enemies were in that game and downright hilarious when you consider that they consisted of male cannibals, monkey-faced female cannibals, cutpurses, thieves, insane fanatics and thugs.

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>>382029960
I'd ride her carriage, if you know what I mean.

>>382030578
>you will never drop 20 niggas with a single fireball spell in a modern game again

>>382030621
Honestly, I was fine with the sci-fi parts. It was some nice ultra-endgame and a strange breath of fresh air in fantasy.

>>382031369
Cheesy high fantasy + sci fi is the patrician way to go. Too bad it hasn't been done since Wizardry 8 or whatever.

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>>382031607
World of Xeen's gaudy fantasy style as seen in the monster designs and cutscenes was the best.
I mean, holy shit, just look at that title screen.
If something like this doesn't make you want to play a game then probably nothing does.

Too bad that a lot of the in-game environments didn't match it.

Why was 8 so weak?

What's the benefit of non-tiled based to tile based M&M, there have been more M&M games of the latter.

>>382032426
Or that fucking ending cinematic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2q7mUNRbhE

>>382032636
It was unfinished and unpolished. They were running of money and/or dev time at that point.

>>382032636
I actually liked it a lot because it felt great to play as a motherfucking minotaur, but my guess would be that people dislike the very short overworld and main quest, and the absence of any modicum of balance (i.e. dragons and those two lvl50 heroes you could easily get earlygame).

>>382032784
so does that make 9 basically running on fumes? how could 9 have been made at all?

>>382032636
series/engine fatigue
They were basically churning out a new game each year plus the HOMM titles/add-ons.

>>382033002
Have you played 9 on release? It literally crashed every 10 minutes, and 3 essential quests were broken.

>>382033002
9 was the end representation of the entropy of talent and passion waning with each successive release.

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>It's a "enemies dispel all your fucking buffs and you can't hit anything" dungeon

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>>382033272
>it's a "enemies who make you mad/cursed/fatigued/diseased/all of the above" episode

>>382032714
Combat isn't reduced to a shitty puzzle game, it makes more sense (well, visually) to fight multiple groups of enemies, a lot more freedom in level design (especially if you take flight into account), feels more organic and like it's the next step of evolution of the genre, which makes all those tilebased RPGs feel cheap and shallow to me.

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>>382033405
>It's a Castle Darkmoor episode

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>>382033934
fuck

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hope you got res faggots

>>382030220
Isn't Paper Sorcerer exactly this?

Not sure if it's shit though. It looks good but people say it's really bugged.

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>>382033272
>tfw you walk out of a completed dungeon with most guys diseased, cursed, low hp or dead and with 0 mana and regenerate in town

how's x

>>382034423
It's tile based.

Which one is better overall: VI or VII? I played both, beaten VII but put VI away after getting access to Dark and Light magic schools.

>>382033934
I still have nightmares of this place. I completed the dungeon completely underleveled, because I was just curious and didn't expect such a crucial plot item at the end.

>>382034391
I love the music in the tomb of Varn, also a great callback to the very first M&M.

>>382034590
From what I've seen myself, it's pretty meh.

First things I noticed that inventory management is basically gone and that it is title based. Never did much in-depth research, just made a bet that Ubi fucked it up.

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>>382035161
VII is better overall but it doesn't have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5XjRBTEpU

Where should I start dungeon crawling, /v/?

Already played Wizardry from 1 to 4, need more.

>>382035401
For Blood and Honor's musics were pretty bad overall, in my humble opinion. It does have Arcomage, though.

>>382034590
It scratches the itch, but just barely. I only played it for a while, but enjoyed it more than the first Grimrock. Grimrock 2 on the other hand is fucking great, check it out if you haven't by now.

>>382035668
>Already played Wizardry 1-4
Jesus christ anon you're more hardcore than I am, that's for sure.

>>382034590
Like someone vaguely explained the concept of the MM RPG series to a dev team which then slapped HOMM6 assets into a tile-based Unity-game and put references to things they found on the franchise's TV Tropes page on top of it for some nerd cred.

>>382035786
Wizardry 1 is just about getting lucky and grinding like hell.

2 and 3 are not hard.

4 is my favorite by far, but fuck it I used guides on some parts here and there because the game is nuts and I would never have guessed some shit. Also never did the best ending, obviously (is it even possible to do it without a guide?)

>>382036298
I only played 8 and it came close to being a masterpiece of the genre. Great music and customizability. Way too fucking much random encounters though. I stopped playing in that rat city on the trees.

>tfw too casual for western dungeon crawlers

>>382036797
I feel like a faggot for being this way. The older MM titles (1-5) are too archaic while the rest are a pain to control.

>>382033272
The huge haunted castle in the spooktown was a massive pain because of this. Those fucking faggot eye enemies didn't even have to be in aggro range they seemed to just cast dispel randomly.

>>382034423
Some of the side puzzles don't give you the items you need to complete them, however some guy on the gog forums did a step by step guide on how to edit them into you saves. I didn't notice any other bugs but I was playing the gog version which I've been told is more up to date than the steam version.

The game itself isn't a classic but I enjoyed it despite the uneven difficultly. I'll probably play through it again sometime. The story is cute.

>>382036971
>lers
I can't play anything less than 6 honestly it's just too frustrating.

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*blocks your path*

>>382037287
Actually looking into it it's the Liches that dispel you not the Eyes.

>>382037907
>pay some gold or get some xp

>>382038858
If you were underleveled and/or a retarded nine year old like me that kept dying and was poor as dirt the only thing you got was a zombie dicking instead of xp.

>>382037907
1000 gold is literally nothing.

>>382036661
Don't want to play 8 without having played 6 and 7. Just going to skip 5 because it's the same shit as the first trilogy.

>>382030384
Starburst is air. So if you're high in that you're bueno.

>>382035668

Dungeon Master and Chaos Striks Back

>>382035731
Fuck yeah Arcomage. I almost want to boot up VII just to play it.

>>382029005
Dude just go to tactical mode and nuke dragons and titans while flying.

Pro tip: you can still go down/up to easily dodge their missiles. Literally free loot the moment you get fly/meteor shower/starfall

Pro tip 2: remember to save scum before looting their corpses, if it aint relic or artifact reload until it is

>>382024504

wew

>>382037907
>Necromancer tax

why?

>>382041249
To keep the streets free of zombies.

>>382035731
>Bad music

https://youtu.be/x2IWkh62NJg

>>382041717
good tax

I liked Isles of Terra
How is MM Legacy?

>>382044734
also interested

>>382033934
best dungeon ever. I remember the brikcs I shat until I discovered 0 range sharpmetal.

>>382039223
That's pretty much all the guy in the pic has though.

>>382044734
Eh, it's a passable tile-movement dungeon crawler. Old-schoolish, meaning clunky as fuck, not smooth like Grimrock.
It's set in the whatever world the russkie heroes games are set in.

It's okay if you're really craving for a dungeon crawler and you get it for cheap, but it's nothing great.