Skyrim

babys first rpg

>>382019470
nah, it's not the worst game ever but it is shit. only Redditors and normies think the game is any good.

Literally every TES game is fucking awful.

Annon its shit I think reddit is a better place for you away thot

>10-20 hours
You don't do jackshit in 10-20 hours, if you are going to play any TES game you need at least 80 hours in it.

>>382019703
>>382019790
>>382019804
Yep these posts show what I'm talking about.
Just a couple of redditors or newfags who bought the Skyrim is shit meme.
>>382019758
>it's shit
No it's not it's at least a good game even by the harshest standards.

>>382020062
>No it's not it's at least a good game even by the harshest standards.
No it's not. Fuck off to Reddit, kid.

>my other shitposting thread got deleted
>better double down and try again!
Fuck off already. Skyrim is already becoming boring even with the normies who are sick of hearing about it. In about another year or so, it's probably going to start popping up all over in "Most Overrated Games" lists.

>>382020062
A game with zero depth or challenge can't be good sorry bro better luck next time

>>382019470
Nice try Todd

>>382019913
You do the same jackshit in 20 hours that you do in 80 hours, it's just 4 times as much

>>382020162
>it's shit because I say so
Nice argument but Skyrim is an objectively good game.
Only newfags and Redditors actually argue otherwise.
>>382020267
>Skyrim has zero depth or challenge
What!
You just showed that you haven't actually played the game at all.

>>382019790
Literally kys

>>382020062

Gr8b8m8

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>>382020062
>Shit quests
>Shit graphics
>Shit gameplay
>Gutted rpg elements even compared to oblivion
>Shit writing
>Dungeons are one giant corridor with the exception of dwemer ruins
Truly a masterpiece

>>382020267
t. retarded newshit soulsfag redditurd meme loving twitch watching faggot loser who probably subscribes to soulsborne lore youtubers and spends hours forming gank squads in dark souls and shitposting on his iphone and unironically considers souls games to be the pinnacle of vidya and has a framed picture of miyazaki at his bedside and frequents /dasg/ and records webms of his le epik ganks and has the entire souls franchise downloaded and frequently listens to it while shitposting and thinks any game without souls combat is "shit" and "lacks depth" because combat rolling everywhere is fucking dope shit

>>382020489
Redditors like this trash retard

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>Is there a bigger newfag detector than saying that Skyrim is shit?

>>382020489
>it's good because I say so
Nice argument but Skyrim is objectively a shit game.
Only newfags and Redditors actually argue otherwise.

>>382020715
Never played a souls game i hate japshit sorry bro

>>382019470
>oblivion had more content then skyrim
>morrowind had more content then oblivion
If you can't see WHY someone would have a problem with this KILL YOURSELF

>>382019470
>Is there a bigger newfag detector than saying that Skyrim is shit?
fucking babby shitter detected

>>382020609
>everyone who doesn't share my opinion is baiting
This is why nu/v/ is so shit.

>>382020702
>shit quests
How so?
>shit graphics
It was great for it's time and even better with mods
>shit gameplay
Adding shit in front of something isn't an argument.
>gutted oblivion RPG elements
What?
If anything Skyrim improved it from oblivion when most of the stats didn't mean shit and there so many useless skills.
Skyrim also improved from oblivion retarded level up system and fixed it's scaling.
>shit writing
That applies to all RPGs except maybe planescape and Gothic.
It also doesn't matter because the writing isn't the main focus
>dungeons are one giant corridor
The only actual criticism in this post and one which I agree on.
>>382020726
Newfags and Redditors such as yourself also hate Skyrim and call it the worst game.

>>382019470
DRAUGR CAVE
DRAUGR CAVE
[SPOILER]DRAUGR CAVE

>>382020846
Still waiting for that argument.
>>382020956
>oblivion had more content than Skyrim
Oblivion was a disappointment and Skyrim was better in every way except maybe the gulf quests.

>>382021654
I'm waiting for yours, faggot

>>382021654
>skyrim
>not more disappointing then oblivion

>>382021654
*guild quests.

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>>382019470

>>382019470
It's funny that you point out everything that Morrowind and Oblivion had and casually ignore all the shit it has, like dumbed down mechanics out the ass.

>>382021779
>Skyrim
>more disappointing than a game that
>had mostly shit quests except some guild quests and shivering isles
>had worse combat than Skyrim
>most of the NPCs had potato faces
>had literal horse armor as DLC
>had a MQ that was worse than Skyrim
>a stupid leveling up system
>a generic medieval fantasy setting
Oblivion was worse than Skyrim.

>>382019470
Skyrim is fine
If you have the patience to carefully mod it you can get out a very good game

>>382021369
Skyrim had no memorable quests like Oblivion or Morrowind all of skyrims quest end in a draugr cave

No skyrim had shit graphics compared to witcher 2 deus ex and bf3 which all came out same year as skyrim, skyrim looks like a game from 2001

What the fuck are you talkng about skytim is a rare exception of rpgs having shit writing

and by gutted rpg elements i mean your asshole can master everything in skyrim which is not the case in almost any rpg

>swing sword at enemy
>they have no reaction
Amazing game

>>382022106
Oblivion was objectively worse than Skyrim
Morriowind while better suffered from it's combat.
But this isn't a whos the better TES game thread so I don't see why are you bringing them up.

>>382022637
>Objectively
there's that word again. You just have objectively shit taste for liking an objectively shit game like Skyrim

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>It's another "OP tries to validate his taste in videogames" thread
Stop wasting your time OP and have fun playing.
I still like Skyrim even with all the flaws posted ITT

>>382022563
MUH REALISM :(

>>382019470
>There's a lot of dull and repetitive content so it must be good!
>A leveling system! How many other games offer this?
>"""""comfy"""""
>The main quest is so shitty that you wish to ignore it and this game gives you the option to do so! Truly revolutionary.
>The basegame is utter shit, but mods!

>>382020702
>Dungeons are one giant corridor with the exception of dwemer ruins
That is my biggest complaint with Skyrim DESU - that and the lack of variety. I miss mazes. I miss fighting things other than dragur, dwemer, falmer, and bandits.

>>382023035
my opinion > you're opinion

>>382022838
>opinion
actually it's objective facts, newfag.

>>382023162
you mean like ghosts, skeltals, zombies and bandits in daedric armor? oh wait, right, there are also imps, heh how could i of forgotten?

>>382023325
like if I give a fuck

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>>382023165
Keep playing garbage.

post waifus

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Skyrim is fun

>>382023589
alright

>>382019470
>terrible combat
>quests are mediocre
>dungeons are samey
>little enemy variety
>only redeemed by mods
Because it's "fun" does not mean it's a good game, and mods don't mean the turd bethesda put out is anything is a turd.
Also with games of this nature you're supposed to put at least 100 hours into it, skyrim manages to get boring long before you've come close to that point.

Play better games and git gud you fucking casual.

i played skyrim while my internet was down and it was sort of ok after drinking literally half a bottle of rum

>>382022316
Teach me how to that, master. I tried that for many times, with many different mods and the game wasn't fun. At most, the fun part was the modding.

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>>382019470
Go to bed todd

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Mod the hell out of it. Vanilla is worth a playthrough or two if you try different playstyles.

Hoping Skywind will actually get finished now that I've sucked every drop of enjoyment I can out of Skyrim.

>>382023591
post waifus OR ELSE

>>382023968
tesgeneral.com

>old /v/ says Morrowind was good
>neo /v/ has nostalgia for the garbage that was Oblivion
>nu /v/ now defends Skyrim

like clockwork

>>382022148
>shit quests
oblivion had better side quests then skyrims GUILD quests, literally only 2 chains in skyrim didn't totally suck, the civil war and the MAIN QUEST
>had worse combat than Skyrim
Literally only a slight improvement, at the cost of custom spells and shit
>most of the NPCs had potato faces
granted oblivion had worse graphics but since that's the only thing skyrim has going for it is it's better graphics.....
>had literal horse armor as DLC
SKYRIM IN VR
>had a MQ that was worse than Skyrim
The MQ was worse then skyrim but it's not like there's THAT much of a difference in quality between the two on it
>a stupid leveling up system
And skyrim is so much better?
>a generic medieval fantasy setting
Generic viking fantasy setting

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>>382024320
>that one guy who starts talking about old /v/ and neo /v/

like clockwork

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>>382023591
>>382024074
ok

>>382024320
This

>>382020489
>its good because I say so

your argument is shit too like Skyrim

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/v/
/v/ never changes

>>382019470
Anyone that thinks skyrim is the best rpg has never played oblivion or neverwinter nights or literally anything else.

>>382025220
I never said it was the best rpg ever.
>never played oblivion
>oblivion is one of the best rpgs of all time
newfag please go.

>>382024772
>skyrim waifus
>japs make qts like this
>go on nexus
>westacucks make nothing but garbage
why is japan so much better at this than us

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Imagine if Bethesda actually gave a shit and had created unique castle designs for every major location.

Instead we got Skyrim's """capital""" having like, nine enter-able shacks with a palisade around them. Solitude is basically the only recognizable palace, while all fortresses use the same assets and basically have the same lay-out.

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>>382020715
Tell us where Miyazaki touched you.

>>382025839
>going to nexus for waifus
Make your own you lazy fucking nigger

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>>382026594
Thank god for mods.

>>382025220
Oblivion is shit.

>>382023162
The whole "every dungeon is a draugr dungeon" shit is perfectly true, but it always seems weird coming from people touting Morrowind as a great game when it has the same shit with its skeleton tombs.

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>ywn impregnate a qt Witch from Glenmoril

>>382019470
have you ever played an RPG, anon?
have you ever played a non-Bethesda title, anon?
doesn't sound like you have

>>382019470
>huge open world which lots of different NPCs
Literally every open world game

>a leveling system that makes you get better as long as you work on your skills
RPGs have leveling systems, this isn't TES exclusive. If you are talking about how swinging a sword specifically upgrades sword swinging, that has also been done elsewhere, although is less common because traditional leveling systems are usually better.

>exploration of a huge fantasy world
Literally every open world game set in a fantasy world

>Large selection of quests
even shooters these days have this

>freedom to ignore the MQ
Is this your first open world game?

>trudging through the woods
LITERALLY ANY GAME WITH TREES

>okay combat system
There are open world fantasy RPGs with amazing combat systems. Why settle for something basic and mediocre?

>mods
lol

what other game can you throw a cup at a bandits face, steal his soul, shout him off a mountain and then resurrect his body to be your servant?

protip disliking skyrim is a meme, and op is completely right about it being a newfag detector

I'm waiting...

>>382028797
Explain how it is a newfag detector.
Redditors come in through /pol/ and spread their tendrils everywhere else. Redditors might dislike FO4, but they LOVE Skyrim.

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Skyim is ok. Not good but ok. The real abomination is Oblivion

>>382028974
posts like this>>382028528
that offer no insight into anything and barely counter any of the points OP was making while also neglecting to offer another game that allows said "freedoms"

If you can't see why skyrim if popular you're a fucking newfag

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Why aren't more RPG's set in snowy environments?

>>382029164
>the points OP was making
do you often talk about yourself in the third person?

>>382029164
is that a joke, because OP didn't list anything consequential and utterly lacked any insight into his points

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Reminder that Skyrim is the best waifu simulator on the market.

B U M P

>>382029687
>>382030056
kek stay mad plebs nobody has yet to refute my post>>382028797

skyrim offers experiences that no other game to date does, there's a reason theres still daily threads on /v/ about it and tens of thousands of people stil play it on a daily basis

>>382028528
>There are open world fantasy RPGs with amazing combat systems. Why settle for something basic and mediocre?
Which? I have yet to come across a single combat system I've enjoyed. No game has the proper balance of control and feeling. It needs to be extremely responsive and accurate and it needs to feel powerful relative to the weapon you're wielding.

For reference, I don't like Skyrim's, Dark Soul's, or Witcher 2/3's combat at all.

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>play as blonde, blue-eyed nord
>install mod which de-essentializes every NPC
>mission is to kill every single elf in Skyrim
>fuck up my first murder in Windhelm, Ulfric himself chases me out of the city
>start doing the main quest, pass Riverwood
>a disgusting elf is wandering there, asks me to fake a letter from Sven to some chick
>do it
>later at night
>bash the pointy ears his head in with a lute
>leave the lute
>Sven had the motive
>gets hanged on the town's mill for my murder

more?

>>382032025
>>leave the lute
>>Sven had the motive
>>gets hanged on the town's mill for my murder
>more?
No, I don't want to hear more of you playing pretend.

>plebs in this thread still haven't worked out hat a boring mess Oblivion is and how Skyrim is better than it in nearly every way

did the people who think Skyrim > Oblivion only play Oblivion during its release on 2006?
'cause I fucking loved Oblivion when I played it in 2015

>>382023591
>>>/vg/

>>382019470
No but I imagine a lot of people that call it shit whilst blindly praising morrowind are kids trying to fit in who never actually played morrowind. The game isn't that good of an RPG though despite being fun to just wander around in and explore stuff.

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>>382024074

>>382023462

Morrowind had 140ish enemies. Not including any enemies with unique names or the various human enemies in the game (bandits and so on).
Skyrim, including all DLC has 170. This includes all enemies with unique names and all the various human enemies.

>>382026818
How is Holds these days?

I like the sex mods so I agree with OP. Faggot

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>>382034839
Holds is and always has been shit.

>>382035108
Like, I don't agree. It's incomplete, but cities like Solitude and Falkreath are worlds better than any other overhaul.

>>382019470
I don't think anyone HATES Skyrim, the game is designed to be digestible by anyone and /v/ has a soft spot for anything where you swing a sword around. I think most people like it in fact.

But it's the epitome of an overrated, buggy normie open-world game with shallow braindead gameplay, that many would argue is strictly worse than it's predecessors. When someone says "Skyrim is my favorite game!", you can immediately dismiss their taste in videogames because they likely haven't even played Oblivion or Morrowind, and their "favorite game" is a buggy mess with piss-poor combat.

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>>382035352
It's almost entirely copy-pasted box buildings. It's really boring. A combination of other mods make for much better cities.

>>382035867
OK, so I asked this because of your original screenshot, but that _looks_ like the Holds version of Solitude. Am I mistaken?

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I'll start taking Bethesda RPG's seriously when they manage to animate someone sitting in a chair without floating

>>382019470
>Is there a bigger newfag detector than saying that Skyrim is shit?
Yeah, saying that Skyrim is good.
Global Rule
#2: You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

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>>382035981
Completely mistaken. It's a combination of Solitude Reborn, Enhanced Landscapes, JK's Solitude, and Dawn of Solitude.

Oh, and the mod for the Emperor's Tower.

>>382036201
My bad then. Do you have a list of favorites for trash towns like Dawnstar, Falkreath, and Morthal?

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>>382036368
ETaC does worlds for those places. I especially really like ETaC's changes to Morthal.

I don't have any screenshots of those atm though.

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Anyone here used Requiem?

>>382036493
No worries. ETaC has been on a list of to-try mods for a while now. I guess I'll just give it a shot. Thanks for your patience man.

>>382019470
>huge open world which lots of different NPCs
>a leveling system that makes you get better as long as you work on your skills
>exploration of a huge fantasy world
>a large selection of quests
>having the freedom to ignore the MQ from the very start of the game
>comfy feeling of trudging through the woods
>a combat system that's at least okay for what it is
>the ability to customize your experience with mods and other user created content

Sounds like every rpg ever made.

>>382019470
>vast landscape full of humans and occasional colored humans, Most NPCs celebrate sole fact they are not guards and have at least some parody on life simulation
>a leveling system which make you get better when you put perks from level ups, while skill level itself means next to nothing
>exploration of a huge world full of animals, zombies and occasional fantasy creature
>a large selection of mechanically same quests of "go there get this", not to mention that game doesn't even bother explaining where to go when you have compass marker
>having freedom to ignore the MQ after intro-dungeon, as well as to ignore any quest whatsoever, as long as you don't mind carring clutter in pockets which turns out to be quest items and can't be removed until related quest is done
>comfy feeling of walking through city park
>a combat system that has huge balancing issues and is insanely stale - you do same stuff from start to finish of game, especially if you are not mage (if you are mage, you are in troubles so big you won't notice how same spells are)
>the ability to customize your experience with mods, most of which add what most games consider bare bones functionality

Fixed for you OP, please tell me how you disregard my opinion~

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>>382037279
>>382037351
>coordinated shitposting

>>382019470

it was the dopest thing ever the weekend it came out but after 100 hours it becomes life-drainingly boring

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>>382036723
Not a fan of requiem. For combat I much prefer the a combination of:

Ultimate Combat
SkyTweak
TK Dodge
TK Hitstop
Revenge of the Enemies
Mortal Enemies
Combat Evolved

Drop in Ordinator for a perk overhaul, and install Disparity to get classes, and you've done most of what Requiem does, but much better imo.

You also probably want Morrowloot Ultimate to de-level a lot of the items, and Skyrim Unleveled is okay if you want to de-level enemies. Then maybe throw in a few magic mods, Lost Grimoire and/or Apocalypse. Thunderchild if you like using shouts a lot.

Sounds like it's more work, and I guess it is, but you get much more control over your gameplay experience. Skyrim's mechanics and combat are never going to be amazing, but they can at least be pretty fun.

>>382036735
It's a must-have, in my opinion. And hey, no problem, it's not like I have anything better to do.

The problem with Skyrim is it's an ok foundation (excluding the shit combat) that Bethesda never used very well. You've got to mod the fuck out of it to get the most out of it, but that has problems of it's own. Mainly it crashes frequently and the game is so old now that technical limitations are becoming a huge problem (and don't give me shit about the special edition, it has almost no mod support and never will).

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>>382031516

>>382037797
>Mainly it crashes frequently and the game is so old now that technical limitations are becoming a huge problem
Provided you have enough VRAM, you configure ENB, SKSE, and Crash Fixes properly, and you don't install ridiculously poorly-made mods by idiots, you should rarely ever crash.

>(and don't give me shit about the special edition, it has almost no mod support and never will).
SE is a dumb meme for gay babies.

>>382019470
combat is awful + you fight the same handful of enemies for hours and hours.

game is trash

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>>382037949

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>>382019470
It's not a bad game. It's pretty decent.
But it's way overhyped.
It's also buggy as fuck and has an army of apologists defending it from valid criticism.

I really like TES.
It seems like your standard Tolkien-esque Fantasy, but it goes much deeper than that
(God Machine, CHIM,etc.)

What angers me most is all the wasted potential, which is a feeling almost all Bethesda Softworks games give me.

They have Millions of Dollars to their disposal, but still make buggy messes.
They have hundreds of people, yet still fail to create quest that are as in depth as a small developer like Obsidian can create.
They have years of time, yet still their worlds are empty and feel lifeless.

Witcher 3 showed how to make lively cities, and realistic and beautiful countryside.
Fallout New Vegas, showed how to make interesting Factions, and intricate Quest lines.
Dark Messiah, showed us how to make a fun combat system.

For all their years of experience they have fuck all to show for it.
Except for mediocre games, and PAID MOD GUISE.

Seems like all the old school devs like Beth and BioWare shit the bed.
I really hope CD Project gets even more successful to force those hacks to improve.

>>382037497
Delicious (You), please give me more! I'll even post anime picture if you wish so!

>>382037961

I have more than enough RAM. The problem is the game was designed for 4GB of RAM and cannot utilise more than this ever.

And don't bullshit me. Modding Skyrim just causes crashes, and there are tools out there literally designed just to minimise how often the game crashes because of mods.

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>382038373

Can someone explain to me whats wrong with ES combat and how they'd fix it without losing the ES feel

>>382038626
>the ES feel
the elder scrolls feel of shit combat?

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>>382038507
>The problem is the game was designed for 4GB of RAM and cannot utilise more than this ever.
That's not true~

Configure ENB and Crash Fixes correctly.

>And don't bullshit me.
I spend hundreds of hours autistically modding my game on a regular basis.

>and there are tools out there literally designed just to minimise how often the game crashes because of mods.
And they work extremely well if you use the properly.

For every piece of candy Skyrim gives you it shovels down two scoops of shit down your throat in return.

>>382038626
>press F to kick

There you go.

>>382038619
Even half-a-(You) is good enough for me!

>>382038769

Skyrim has a hard limit of being able to use 3.1GM of RAM. You literally cannot do anything about this, it's just how the game was made.

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>>382037961
>SE is a dumb meme for gay babies.
>the only version with an engine that can handle 64-bit memory and processing

>>382019470
Mate if anything there's no bigger newfag detector than saying skyrim is good.

I 100% it and can't remember a single thing about it besides the brotherhood quest.

Shit game.

>>382038749
I mean it remaining first person and maintain all abilities but not going over the top to make it feel like its an anime battle

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I dunno.

You have to meet the game more than halfway to have fun with it.

Like I had some fun with it but only after I heavily modded it and limited myself on top of that in the game.

I liked it then and I would defend that experience but the work it takes to get an enjoyable game out of this is inexcusable so even as someone who likes Skyrim I have to admit that just playing it out of the box is shit.

>>382038851
So if they added a kick feature it would fix everything for you?

>>382038626

Combat is shallow and there is just very little to it. You hit shit as fast as you can with no real thought or strategy put into it.
To add to that, magic is a complete joke and only a few utility spells are even worth using, while stealth is hilariously broken.

ESO is shit, but they got the right idea by giving all skills in the game a selection of usable abilities.

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>>382038926
>muh unnecessary tech

>>382019470
>shit boring horrible combat
>skill leveling is near pointless since the most effective way to fight is to just melee with a sword, no matter how boring it is
>dialogue is shit, none of your choices matter
>horribly written questlines/story
>horrible presentation, "epic" moments just become hilarious failures form the awkward animations, bad ai and bad combat
>very shallow worldbuilding
>contradicting character motivations/personalities, bad writing

The only people that could think skyrim is good are those that have maybe played less than 3 RPGs before it. God, I remember when normalfags were shitting on modern warfare 3 and saying how skyrim was for "real gamers" when even MW3 was a better designed game than the shithole that was skyrim.

>>382039109

Don't tell me it wasn't fun to launch people with the shout. Of course that wouldn't fix everything, but at least it would make it more physical.

>>382039231
So do you think a change of how you need to fight eneimes would be better and its mostly a "everything can be killed the same way" issue or that the skills given need to be revamped also how would you go about it without losing the real world likeness

realizing skyrim is shit is every "gamers" rite of passage to patricianhood (unironically)

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>>382038890
If you just throw mods into Skyrim, then yeah you might run into the memory limit, and it's going to be a problem because Skyrim normally mirrors textures in system memory, which is why modded games tend to crash so easily.

However, ENB wraps the game executable and separates texture allocation into its own 64-bit process. This means that the 3.1GiB for the actual Skyrim process is more than enough for whatever the game needs to do. With enough VRAM on your card (and using sensibly-sized textures if you don't have a lot of VRAM), you won't crash from running into the memory limit.

Though, Skyrim also has issues with memory allocation, not just addressing. Bethesda uses their own god-awful memory allocation code for some reason, and it has a nasty tendency of shitting the bed. Fortunately, Crash Fixes has a setting that allows you to bypass Bethesda's memory allocation code and use malloc() instead, which is orders of magnitude more stable.

>>382038926
>no SKSE
>ENB sucks

>>382039654

>real world likeness

Nothing about Skyrims combat is real world or even remotely realistic.

Having a variety of abilities for each weapon type would be a start however. Magic also needs to be completely overhauled and stealth needs to stop being the strongest combat skill in the game.

>>382039608
Im just trying to gauge what the issue is other than people screaming out "its shit" a kick would be great but the eneimes seem to be a bigger issue to me, if you were given the same skills and abilites but the npcs wernt all "hit as fast as you can to kill" and maybe get rid of the damage sponginess to it, it would make it more interesting

>people unironically think Oblivion is better than Skyrim
This is why I can't take this board seriously.

>>382039914
What would you change and add?

Oblivion was way better

>>382040309

I just said.

I want weapons to be different, not just hit shit until it dies. I want to be hacking off limbs with an axe, caving in skulls with a mace, slashing throats with daggers and if I'm dual wielding I want to be doing spinning flippy shit.

Magic needs to be more than a few buffs and 3 elements of damage in either a cone shape or projectile.
It's weird how dragon shouts could send enemies flying, disarm them, slow down time, make me dash forwards at super speed but magic has almost no variety at all.

As for stealth, it needs to stop being a 999x damage multiplier to damage, especially when enemies are basically fucking blind.

>>382019470
I know if someone mentions Skyrim as a favorite then we probably won't have similar tastes. That's about it, to each their own.

>>382020062
>he forgot that the combat system is the worst, most bland, uninspired piece of shit combat of any game ever

>>382020062
No you don't understand, if it's not the best, then it's shit. Everything needs to be binary.

skyrim is a masterpiece i really loved that one quest where you go into the draugr cave and then get to the chest at the end of it

skyrim is shit

>>382038769
Who is this semen demon?

Oh wow, is /fog/ really this low? Is this "revenge" for making you faggots face the truth of Betheseda and /fog/?

>>382044598
a u t i s m

>>382044892
Yeah

>>382019470
Sank at least 1500 hours into it.
Will play more again.
I still play without mods too.

>>382019470
People who shitpost about Skyrim follow the same gameplan as the political left.
If we just hate it hard enough we will win.

The results have been the same on both fronts the object of their respective hate have beat the fuck out them.

>>382022637
>Skyrim
>better combat than ANY game
Not when you can't do something as basic as attack or cast a spell while jumping.