Sonic Mania

Keep on playing sonic 3 and knux in the official genesis emulator, cant stop playing the mobile remasters. Im hyped as fuck

I'm playing the original. I haven't played it in decades.

>>382017469
Sonic Time Twisted was a good hold-off for a few weeks, but now I'm ready for Mania.

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>>382017469
I'm coping well m8

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>>382021060
I really love how all the shields have stage specific uses, but I still don't understand why they included non elemental shields in that game too.

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>>382017469
Pre-ordered in the same week it was announced on XB1. I may as well play the original since it's been a while.

>>382022383
They did it probably so you can get a extra hit without losing your rings while also being allowed to use the Drop Dash since the Elemental Shield cancel that ability out.

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>>382017469
I sure hope Both Mania and Forces does extremely to put this IGN Dick rider in his place.

>>382022743
*Well

>>382022615
Oh yeah, I guess you do need to hit jump mid air to drop dash. Solid point.

>>382023096
I've always wanted a "pro" mode that just assigns different buttons to different abilities midair. Like, all buttons on the ground are jump, but in midair a could be drop dash, b could be invincibility flash, and c could be elemental shield ability. Heck, in that one Sonic hack, Mighty's whole thing was elemental shield. Why not give him their powers at all times (but let him lose rings). A activates fire, b for bubble, and c for electrical. It'd be a pretty unique play style.

I'm trying to complete Sonic Classic Heroes (I'm on Wing Fortress Zone) then I'll beat Sonic 3 Complete.

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>>382023906
I think the reason why you don't have more buttons being used for different things is because of the mentality the original Sonic Team had when approaching Sonic. Essentially, they didn't want any more buttons being used than was absolutely necessary. They wanted the game to be as easily approachable as Mario, I believe. (Unfortunately, this mentality would bite them in the ass in Adventure 1 and 2 since you had like six things mapped to the same fucking button and this issue was especially apparent in the Chao Gardens when you accidentally spindashed into a Chao when trying to simply pick them up.)

Considering how educated Mania's dev team is about Sonic Team lore, they probably wanted to keep this design mentality for authenticity's sake. This is the type of autism I can get behind, imho.

>>382026547
How did he do it?

>>382025129
This is why Amy most likely won't be in Mania since her playstyle requires two buttons.

Or if she is, she won't play like her Advance style. I would actually really like it if Amy was just Sonic except with an insta-shield like hammer swing instead of a drop dash. It'd be a good compromise for people who prefer the insta-shield.

>>382027214
He already had the engine.

What I'd like is for Whitehead to live up to that part of his slogan that says he's a friend to pixels and POLYS and chip in on a 3D Sonic game.

Hopefully he's not sick of Sonic now.

>>382027403
Waiting on a fully 3D Special Stage for Mania. This would be the perfect opportunity for Taxman to take advantage of.

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>>382027214
By being competent.

I've never played a 2D sonic outside of the Advance games. Help me recommend what to get, where to play it and what to avoid like the fucking plague.

>>382027932
Play the original Genesis trilogy, ya dope.

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>>382027932
These hidden and obscure gems, make sure they're the Taxman remakes as well.

>>382023906
Just play hack by the name of Sonic Boom.

>>382028146
Are the ones on steam the good ones?

>>382028232
Only CD, 1 & 2 are mobile only and 3&K is never ever, so you're better off emulating that one.

>>382028365
It's alright, Sonic 3 Complete is already the definitive version.

>>382028670
3C doesn't change the game to widescreen like the Taxman remakes, which makes the Classics so much better to play.

>>382028670
>no widescreen
>no multiplayer stages a full single player stages
No, it's not alright.

>>382028146
>Sonic 2
>the game with the most bullshit speed traps
>speed
Are you baiting or genuinely retarded?

>>382028928
Nobody cares nor need those.

>>382028975
Don't be mad about falling in the pit of death.

>>382028975
>Sonic 2 doesn't focus on speed the most out of the classics
Are you?

>>382029029
It's only you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV4WrCW-5Lw

Reminder that Taxman said that prior to Mania being pitched, they were considering a bundle that ported the 1 and 2 remasters to consoles and PC.

So maybe there's a good chance we'll get those after Mania comes out.

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The trailer's still beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg

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7 weeks, damn, I want it now

>>382017469
>birthday is August 9
>I'll be 31 by the time this is out

Gosh I'm old.

>>382032009
Are you a wizard anon?

guys

guys

all this hype for Mania, I got my ps2 Sonic collection + out and I'm replaying Sonic 3D flickies island

it... it isn't THAT bad....is this just desperation for Mania I have no idea

>>382032161
The Order of the Mage forbids disclosure of that information.

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>>382032337
>Decide to give after the sequel a shot
>Not feeling it at all
Fucks sake I just want Mania.

>>382026547
Why the fuck would there be a windmill in a city like this? I'm not complaining, it's fucking so bizarre it's great but WHAT

>>382032528
just listen to the OST of After the sequel, the game plays like shit, the OST is god tier, just like sonic cd.

>>382032528
Try Time Twisted if you haven't yet, it's pretty alright.

>>382032337
Sonic 3D is a lot more playable with an analog instead of a d-pad. It actually becomes fun searching for the birds.

Will Sonic Mania be better than the SNES Classic Mini?

>>382032919
Yes.

>>382017469
I'M FREAKING OUT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>382032919
I mean I'd rather have Mania over an emulator box. That isn't to say the line up is bad though. Pretty solid choices all around, but it's all stuff I've already played.

>>382019591
>sonic is now a super ball

>>382032919
Considering the SNES lunchbox is just a bunch of emulated roms yes Sonic Mania is better.
I suppose if you can manage to aquire one for the asking price instead of being scalped it might be worth it for Star Fox 2.

>>382033048
>it's all stuff I've already played.
You never played the finished version of Starfox 2.

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Be sure to play my game goyim.

>>382033294
Post Mega link, Lake. You know you want to.

>>382033208
Yeah but 80 bucks for it
Mania is only 20

>>382033552
Not the version I'm buying...

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I downloaded SRB2 yesterday
Can't wait for slopes

>>382033609
I don't know if that's gotten any better since I played it.

It used to give me a headache, though.

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Here's a more clear version of these guys. I'm still hoping for a Circus Level in Mania (ala Toy Kingdom, Advance 3.)

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>>382033208
Completely true, but at the same time I'd rather have Mania over it. Plus I don't feel like the hassle of getting one. If any of my buddies get one I'll play it off of theirs.

>>382033689
>Greenhill Zone demo
Of?

>>382033208
>>382033759
I'm sure the ROM will be ripped quickly, I was just saying you know.

>>382033729
Middle one = mirage saloon boss, has a cape, see

>>382021856


TOP HAT, NEW MAGIC/CASINO LEVEL, GOD GIVE ME IT TEE LOPES INEED THAT REMIX ALL OVER MY FACE

>>382032434
It's "Order of the Magi" btw.

>>382027326

Yeah, Amy should be an unlockable or DLC character, and can spin dash when on ground and use hammer in the air.

I wonder how Blaze or Cream would work if they were in?

>>382033904
Why every Mania thread do we get a liar/sega insider who just wants to cause shit?

they've confirmed there will be no demo. nothing until elease.

>>382033985
I was going to use "coven" but I'm not female so...

>>382033904
The demo should have more than Green Hill, anon. Stop bullshiiting me.

Has anyone here played lost world on 3ds? I tried the demo and enjoyed it. Was wondering if the full game was worth buying considering that it's 60% off on the eshop.

>>382034303
the first stages are probably the best ones, it's worth a shot though

>>382034032
Technically he could prove it if he showed Knuckles in the stage. There has been no screenshots of Knuckles on GHZ before.

I can't wait, because Forces will outsell it and I can laugh at all the 2Dfags.

>>382034303
You played the best stage in that piece of shit. As someone who 100% the game (including hard mode) I regret everything, never fucking again. Here's a good review of both versions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMfakO0jmr4

>>382034534
But Forces won't be a good game.

Fire & Ice is surprisingly decent.

>>382034534
Well, yeah. OCmaker is a powerful thing. A lot of DeviantArtists will buy it for that reason alone.

>>382027932
To be a generation z...holy fuck not even once, thank god

>>382033294
Game drops the fuck off in the last two stages. Can't find powers for shit and stuck with Archer only.

Pacing is all over the shop too.

What games are part of the main storyline?
Just 1, 2, 3, CD and Mania? What about Adventure and Chaotix and the Shitty Quadrilogy?

>>382034792
Why have you been given a Mania demo?

>>382034873
Are you calling Unleashed a bad game?

Chaotix is retconned. Heroes is considered their "canonical" debut and Mighty, Heavy, and Bomb are all non-canon.

>>382034602
It doesn't need to be good, it just needs to sell more than Mania (which it will).

I'm just as excited about the soundtrack as the game itself. I can't wait to hear stardust speedway.

>>382035091
>there are literally posters of Mighty and Ray in Generations
How does it feel to be so wrong? Chaotix may be retconned, but Mighty isn't.

>>382035091
You know damn well that Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic 06, Sonic Unleashed and Sonic and the Black Knight were all garbage.

>>382035239
Are you trying to get yourself fired?

>>382035267
Sonic Heroes is shit and Sonic Unleashed is not.

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>>382034534
Mania will still be received a fuck ton better, just like it is now.

>>382035267
Shadow The Hedgehog is one of the better games though.

>>382035217
How does a wink and a nod make him canon?

It's just a silly reference.

>>382035086
What's with Tails tails?
Leaker Anon should get a picture of Tails for you.

>>382033676
Depends. When was the last time you played it?

>>382035086
>Sonic's Spinball Sprite
>"Tails's" Chaotix Sprite
>Everyone's Sonic 3D Blast Sprite

...Oh.

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>>382034594
johnny is eggman

>>382034873
>What games are part of the main storyline?
1, 2, CD, 3, & Knuckles, and Mania.

>>382035494
I don't understand.

>>382034791
Is it worth 10 bucks?

>>382035569
So green-eyed Sonic is non-canon?

>>382035394
>Thinking some stickers matter

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>>382035343
Nobody knows.
It's easy to copy what I want since I have an USB dongle that I use to upload video content that I've reviewed.

>>382034594
does Johnny know his shit about Sonic? I've always ignored him because of that drawing version of himself but it seems that a lot of Sonic fags defer to his reviews on a lot of occasions

I hope someone makes an Ashura palette mod for Mania PC...

>>382035642
Except us. We know. And we know what site you work at now too. Some asshole can easily start a witch-hunt now. Which could very well result in your being fired.

>>382035601
Definitely. The game's a really good fusion of Sonic, Kirby and Megaman strangely enough. Lots of opportunities go fast, and pretty fun combat. The issues with the game are basically that it has about five scenarios that feel like the final act, but I'm only playing the first main story right now. (There might be several, or it's challenge modes, etc.)

>>382035494
Sonic 3D Blast was awesome, you talkin' shit son?

>>382035091
Izuka now treats the classic games and the current ones as different universes, which is why Classic Sonic in Forces is from an alternate dimension instead of the past. He mentioned in a recent interview that Mighty and the Super Emeralds exist in the classic universe.

>>382035864
Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic Shuffle were the bad Sonic games before Sonic became a bad series.

so how many of you guys are going to close yourself in your room and play the game once it's released on steam and play it with no pauses until you complete it ?

>>382035583
They don't look great is what I'm saying.

>>382035816
Good luck.
I always browse in incognito mode so there's no history saved, and anonymous post on a site nobody here probably knows about ain't gonna scare me.

>>382035743
He's a big Sonic fan, one of the few sane ones at that.

>>382035864
I liked the concept but the sprites are... no.
Also the music is god-tier. Both of them.

>>382035743
For a ghetto latino or whatever the fuck he is his reviews go pretty in depth and cover as many details as could be reasonably expected and is pretty well-spoken about them as opposed to just cursing and ranting.

>>382036036
upload exe

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>>382035628
>some stickers
They're nominations and awards from the press, who are ignoring Forces because it looks sub-par. I guarantee you'd be singing a different toon if the "sticker" amount was reversed between both games, you shitposting faggot.

>>382036327
It's not compiled.
We run a build version.

>>382017469
Will it use Denuvo?

>>382036887
I like Denuvo.

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>>382034791
Jive Turkeys, I'll show ya something.
>>382033394
Not him, but it's on (a song made by Dubioza Kolektiv).

>>382034791
The powers exist in the last two stages, they're just off the beaten path.
That's where most of the goodies are in Spark.

True that the pacing is all over the place though, but it's refreshing that many of the stages play differently enough and have set pieces that stop the game from feeling stale even sixteen stages in.

Game still gets a strong recommendation from me and I hope it one day can get the same recompile that Freedom Planet did.

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Is there a way to send this image to Lake anonymously without putting your e-mail?

>>382037308
It's definitely worth buying, I'm literally just mad cause bad as I lost Magical and Wind due to bullshit.

I'd rate it higher than Freedom planet to be honest, I think more people need to play it.

>>382027403
>>382027503
I am thinking that the special stages will be in polygonal 3D a-la Sonic Jam/Sonic R.

Sonic has a history of constantly adding more and more 3D effects into the games, especially the special stages.

>Sonic 1: no 3D, just some 3D background effects, it's a 2D stage

>Sonic 2: no 3D, either sprite based stages or pretenders, with sprite based characters but it's a "3D" stage in concept

>Sonic CD
>actual 3D flat stages where you run around as a sprite based sonic with sprite based obstacles

>Sonic 3&K: Sprite based pseudo 3D stages

>Knuckles Chaotix: a variation of the Sonic 2 Special stage but with fully 3D polygonal stages and a sprite based character

>Sonic Xtreme: no known special stages, but we know that while main gameplay was 3D stages with a sprite based characters and obstacles, Bosses were 3D arenas with fully polygonal bosses

>Sonic was jumped to 3D as early as the genesis with the pseudo 3D 3D Blast, and the Saturn with the fully polygonal 3D Sonic R/Jam

>Mania's title screen is a rotating 3D Island

>the special stage rings are (so far) a spinning wireframe ring

>Taxman has been teasing "we haven't seen the special stages yet" and teased us with the Sonic 3 special stage

if the special stages aren't somehow 3D, i'll actually be disappointed.

>>382037393
you're a special kind of retard aren't you

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Sonic Mania's special stage will be single levels from completely different Sonic games

Green hill zone special stage ring, win a round of Sonic Fights

Studiopolis special stage ring, complete a level of Sonic 3D Flicky

Mirage Saloon, 8-bit sonic level

MANIAAAAAAAAAAAA, MANIIIIIIIAAAA.

So is the Demo Anon going to deliver or what

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>>382035627
Yes.

>>382039160
I'll believe it when I see it. I gave him a way to prove he's not full of shit (show Knuckles in GHZ) so it's just on him now.

>>382039218
>Sonic CD is also not canon
Good.

>>382036036
What about if your ip is tracked by mods whose afraid of getting sued?

>>382039374
It's getting a stage in Mania, ya chuckle fuck.

>>382039160
>he actually believes DemoAnon
Top kek

>>382034775
Nah nigger, I grew up with Nintendo.

Is there any chance it'll be shit?

>>382039829
Mania? Naw.

>>382039829
There's always a chance, but it seems increasingly unlikely.

>>382039679
You gotta believe, cool cat
If you believe, anything is possible

>>382035949
I'm doing that, did the same when Taxman's CD remake came out on Steam.

>>382039829
It's looking unlikely since everything we've seen so far has been really solid. But let's see what are some possible things that go wrong:

>level design goes to shit near the latter half of the game
>bosses aren't good
>level choices are all same-y like Generations and its overabundance of city levels
>Tee Lopes somehow shits the bed on the music we haven't heard yet

Like I said, unlikely but never 0%

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>>382037393
I doubt that's gonna shock Lake

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https://twitter.com/NaotoOhshima/status/854014728179335168

>>382037227
Best part is that that's still not the complete map.

>>382039829
Nope, not even a bit. For once you know exactly what you're getting from a Sonic game.

>>382037227
Need some crazy anon to finish this shit and do the whole thing.

>>382036887
Denuvo is irrelevant, it always gets cracked eventually

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>>382042790

>>382042790
>>382042910
SHIT ONE PIXEL WIDE NOODLE LIMBS

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>>382042910

>>382042790
>>382042910
>>382043028
Ugly as fuck.

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So are all of you ready for Puyo Puyo as the Chemical Plant boss?

>>382039454
What did I miss?

>>382044262
How the hell will that even work anyways?
Do you just get transferred to a different dimension?

>>382044991
You use a Mean Bean Machine, honestly it's not hard to imagine.

>>382044991
Mean.
Bean.
Machine.

Interview with some of the devs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04nBdQU9rbc

>Stealth's most proud thing isn't even revealed yet
What could it be?

>>382046617
An entire room full of Eggman Monitors

>>382022743
IGN and other review sites will probably score Sonic Forces around 6 or 7. Sonic Mania I can see getting 9 and 10 across the board, with maybe a 6 from Jim Cuckling.

>>382046617
The final level plays like Sonic Labyrinth.

>>382027403
>What I'd like is for Whitehead to live up to that part of his slogan that says he's a friend to pixels and POLYS and chip in on a 3D Sonic game.
>Hopefully he's not sick of Sonic now.
The Special Stage ring looks like it's a 3D model, and the Special Stages in the Sonic 2 port were 3D entirely.

>>382046895
>with maybe a 6 from Jim Cuckling.
That's generous from that contrarian.

>>382047368
Is anything in the game not a sprite?

>>382046617
He figured out how to reference the infamous CNZ barrel.

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>>382047368
>that Special Stage 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qbidxNXy8

>>382035394
>Best game of E3
As if Mania and Forces could even compete with Super Mario Odyssey

>>382048078
I mean we can agree that Super Mario Odyssey bit though all of E3 but you could at least give respect to the Mania team for doing a damn good job for making what could be the game of the Summer.

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>>382048078
Odyssey looks fucking fantastic. But I'm still more hyped for Mania.

>>382048078
I'm unironically looking forward to Mania more than Odyssey.

>>382046617
Another interview but with Aaron this time, shows off some new paths in Chemical Plant and gives some interesting insight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVzB7UIsZ3o

After the fuckfest that was Sonic 4, I'm mostly looking forward to experiencing the physics.

In your opinion, what is the definitive order to play the sonic series in? Of course you are free to drop horrible games.

I was crying the other day when I saw the reaction to the game announcement, why?

>>382049418
'Cause it was sweet, and it demonstrates that people haven't given up on the franchise.

>>382049368
I'd just do all the main decent games in order of release.
>1, 2, CD, 3K, Adventure, Advance, Adventure 2, Advance 2 and 3, Heroes, Rush, Unleashed, Colors, Generations, Mania.

>>382049418
How could you not? It's just so heartwarming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VynDxJWZ698

>>382049615
>The cheers when Christian Whitehead appears
>The absolute explosion of cheering when Studiopolis first appears
>People even cheered when Green Hill appeared
>The audience roars when the Lottery gimmick appeared, and when Tails and Knuckles are revealed
>And one final scream for the title screen animation

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>>382017469
The games I bought during the Steam sale.

Why is the Classic Knuckles art just straight up Modern Day Knuckles with a 90's art filter on him?

>>382049548
No Lost World? What about Rush Adventure and Colors DS?

>>382050075
Shut up.

That's why.

>>382049418
the announcement trailer was masterfully crafted, with a level of love and care that we haven't seen from Sega in a very long time. it was clear that mania was going to be a labor of love, and that Sega hired actual fans to work on it, showed humility, a willingness to admit that they did not know how to recreate classic sonic's gameplay and were willing to hire fans who did.

also in general, that sonic event, while a fuckfest, was genuine. it wasn't this massive corporate suckfest where the plans are triple and quadruple checked and everything has money tossed at it and a glossy sheen of bullshit. yknow, like E3 has become. Because it was such a weird and awkward buggy mess, it showed a sort of genuineness. the mighty Sega, and their sonic event was some guys with a laptop hooked to a projector, and a dude in a sonic costume, and the whole event was presented by the twitter manager, who is literally just an average nerd.

And it was clear that Sega was really excited to show off Mania. Like, the whole event was set up explicitly for that reveal.

yknow?

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>>382050095
>Lost World

>>382050278
Basically, it felt more human because of its flaws.

>>382050412
I have lost world on pc. It's alright.

>>382050278
Reading this just makes me angrier that Sonic Forces is a thing.

Fuck you.

>>382017469
I'm doing great, 2D Sonic isn't that good anyways.

>>382050532
It should make you happier Mania exists. For the first time ever, Sonic Teams "vision" is going to be challenged on a financial level by a genuine alternative.

>>382035086
why the fuck do Tails' eyes look so weird in the Mania sprite
of all the changes they could make they add more pillow shading

>>382050532
I have a theory.

Sonic Forces exists because Sega is unsure if they can sell a 2D sprite based "retro game" as their main game in 20XX, the age of the AAA moviegame. they were also unsure of the reception it would get, or if it will even sell that many copies if it is popular.

So Forces is presented as the "main" 3D sonic game, while Mania is the REAL "main project".

>>382050869
>tfw Best Tails is Sonic 3

>>382050950
Iizuka was reportedly very surprised at the reception towards Mania at the reveal event.

>>382051060
Iizuka is a genuine idiot.

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>>382050967
This is the only right answer desu

>>382051246
You're right but I think he made a good call in terms of Mania at least: >>382018048

>>382050950
>So Forces is presented as the "main" 3D sonic game, while Mania is the REAL "main project"

It's nice that you think that anon but that's definitely not how SEGA sees it, Forces is definitely the main game as it's being made by the Sonic Team with a bigger budget while Mania is made by freelance indie devs on a shoestring budget, if SEGA was convinced people would be more interested in Mania they would probably charge at least $40 for it.

>>382051529
It looks like Mania is gonna blow Forces out of the water with Sonic Fans. I mean, even on this website, how many "Sonic Forces Threads" have you seen?

Hopefully after this game gets released to great praise they realize that people do infact want this.

>>382039374
despicable taste

what level do you want even if it would make literally no sense, from any sonic game?
>toxic caves level

>>382051529
I guess we'll have a Symphony of the Night moment if Mania outsells Forces. (or gets a better reception at least)

Remember, Symphony was the 'side project" at Konami while then Castlevania 64 was the main big budget entry.

Castlevania 64 was received poorly, and Symphony was revered as a masterpiece.

>>382051697
The problem as I see it as Mania is like relegation.

Mania can't compete with a Mario Odyssey. They need something big and flashy to go up against that.

If you accept the future of Sonic should be Mania-like games, I feel as though that's saying it's okay for Sonic to just sit in the background of the gaming industry.

>>382051920
I never thought of it like that that, you're right.

>>382051958
That is true. What I think they should be doing is what they are doing now. Having Mania-like games on one side and flashy Forces-like games on the other side, with possible spinoffs (more storybook games?) in the middle.

Something to keep in mind is Sonic Mania was welcomed with open-arms when it debuted but people also thought it was a little thin for an anniversary celebration. Project Sonic 2017 was a bigger surprise because they confirmed they were still going to make a big splash console game to go with their indie-sourced 2D throwback game.

The only problem I have is their big budget console game feels awfully stale at the moment.

>>382048078
SMO looks pretty bad. Like a rare n64 game that is 20 years late to the party. Wide open empty spaces that normies eat like shit and praise. It will be another 7/10 like zelda that everyone calls a masterpiece because nintendo can do no wrong

>>382034534
It helps that Mania is digital only, whereas kids can show a physical copy of Forces to their parents at the store.

>>382052343
>Like a rare n64 game that is 20 years late to the party.

RRREEE FUCK U

The game industry NEEDS games like this. Reminders that gaming can still be about simple things and that technology advancing doesn't mean that we had new shades of brown and dirt to incorporate into the setting.

>>382052491
Sure, there can be simple things. Poi just came out to the xbox one today and is cheap and simple for example. For $60 though? Mario needs to offer a lot more than walking around barren spaces solving """puzzles""" that are designed for preschool kids

>>382052293
I believe it's already been confirmed that Mania is bigger than S3K.

>>382051958
I think people wouldnt mind 3D sonic games as much if they didnt try so hard to be gimmicky and new for the sake of new, instead of saying "what do the fans want?"

I mean they sort of nailed this with Sonic Colors and generations. Unleashed was well received, but people disliked the werehog. so they ditched him and focused on the day gameplay. but by generations, and after Sonic 4, people have sort of grown tired of the boost gameplay, because it's become stale, and realized they want classic sonic gameplay back.

if Sega is smart, they will look at Sonic utopia as a sign of what they could accomplish with a 3D Sonic game.

i dunno. just my thoughts.

the reason Forces looks so lackluster is because it looks dull and uninspired. it's literally a rehash of generations, but with an overarching "ruined/end of the world" theme applied to all the levels, and an OC donut steel third gameplay style.

Generations was a unique and appreciated celebratory game that took a look at Sonic's history.

Forces is just a rehash of that, and not what people asked for. The people who wouldve loved generations 2 would have settled for just generations with different stages.

I hope there's a stage where it meshes all the quintessentials of a good Sonic game, borrowing aspects of previous stages in a new, remixed final stage that really fits into an anniversary game.

pirate bay is gonna have some good deals on this.
can't wait.

>>382048078
>>382052343
>Have to shit on one or the other.
> Can't enjoy both.

>>382052706
It's confirmed the game will be the longest traditional 2D Sonic game to date but that may not take into account Sonic 3 & Knuckles (simply comparing Mania to each of the individual components).

So, if that's the case, we're getting...maybe 13 stages?

>>382052917
You want 90s nostalgia? This is as raw as it gets. Mario vs. Sonic.

>>382052709
>if Sega is smart, they will look at Sonic utopia
I doubt they even know Utopia exists. You've seen how out of touch Iizuka is.

>>382020804
>running left
wtf

>>382051920
How'd that turn out for the franchise?

>>382052917
>have to lie to myself and change opinions to make some faggot ass fanboy not shit his pants on the internet

Sorry thats not me. Perhaps the dedicated reddit or neogaf thread where you read nothing but praise is more suited to you?

>>382052961
6-7 New.
8 Old.

We're getting 14-15. I'm guessing 14, but 15 would be nice,

>>382053020
Not that anon but I don't want wars just good games

>>382053107
I would like a Doomsday-esque zone for finding all the Chaos Emeralds.

>>382052961
The fact that Izuka said biggest "EVER" seems to indicate that he's also referring to 3&K.

>>382053092
Yes and?

>>382022615
The Drop Dash is shit.

>>382053589
this is so cute

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>>382053589
What century is this, gramps?

>>382038946
>Mirage Daloon, 8 bit sonic level
C'MON SUNSET PARK

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>>382053098
>Lying to myself

It's going to suck isn't it.

>>382053905
>file name

Neogaf, tumblr, and reddit all in one

>>382053082
Utopia got a lot press when it was first revealed, which is pretty rare for fan games. Hell, Yuji Naka even shared the trailer on his Facebook.

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I'm just going through the entire series and playing games I missed. Right now I'm on pic related which I'm having a really love/hate relationship with. It's so fucking frustrating yet somehow fun at the same time.

>>382053793
i might as well just go to YouTube desu

>>382054739
Again, you've seen how out of touch Iizuka is.

>>382053096
Pretty good for a while on the GBA and DS.

>>382053907
Nah.

>>382053096
Considering it took the franchise into a boom period and put Igarashi's name on the map, pretty damn well.

>>382048730
>>382048730
HE KNOWS ABOUT BUBSY

BUBSY CAMEO CONFIRMED

>>382035267
lol

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>>382017469
>playing games made by Westerners

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Have they showed AMY yet? She better be in her cute Sonic CD outfit. Also I want to see Fang stealing emeralds and there better be Ice Cap Zone snowboarding.

>>382054757
I think it was a nice idea, but the stage lengths could have been better handled. Team Rose has about what feels right, but it's dumb to have to play as them just to get that.

>>382055293
>posts a near-blunder made by Japs
hopefully Ultra Sun/Moon fixes Gen 7

>>382047589
Sadly these stages are shit on phones. You can't gracefully tap the d-pad with touch controls in order to hold your position along the walls of the half pipe so you fuck up and either hit a bomb or miss rings.

>>382055347
Team Sonic stages aren't that bad on replaythroughs. They only drag the first time.

Also Big is the worst Power character, I hate playing as him so I never want to touch Team Rose anyway.

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>>382055070
>>382055293
Whatever, fag. Go play the shitty Japanese one, you tasteless weeb.

>>382056172
this is fucking amazing. I wish my job was to shitpost as a 90s mascot on social media for "marketing".

>>382055298
>snowboarding
That seems to be in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGCvoOcqg40

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>>382056641
sweet they probably redrew all of Sonic CD/3 sprites. I would also like to see MECHA Sonic from 3&K return with Metal Sonic from CD for an ultimate mecha boss fight

>>382056480
Wait till you see this:

https://twitter.com/MegaMan/status/829766823721725955

>>382054757
I really like the banter between the characters as well as the kind of janky animations and physics (thanks ps2) and the art and skyboxes is still very bright and slick today. It feels very retro to its era (2004). Heroes was always good to me to just play, maybe get a few A ranks, and keep working closer to unlocking super hard mode for months. Its not good enough to play it in a straight shot (although no sonic game is) but in bits and pieces? Its a solid 6th gen game

>>382032575
Shut the fuck up, faggot.

>>382057063
It's actually from an unused frame from CD:

https://www.spriters-resource.com/genesis_32x_scd/sonicthehedgehogcdsegacd/sheet/10831/

>>382056641
Oh shit, I've never seen that. Doesn't that kind of confirm Ice Cap Zone?

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>>382057074
holy shit... MEGAMAN MANIA when crapcom?

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>>382057682
>MEGAMAN MANIA when
They did do that already and it was painfully mediocre.

>>382034791
>Game drops the fuck off in the last stage (or 2)

Literally every Sonic game has this problem except Sonic CD

>>382058121
Oh yeah I remember that garbage. Did crapcom cancel that MMX fan game? MMX with 32-bit graphics is all I want to see. Im tired of lazy 8-bit shit. Thats why I love Mania so much.

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>>382054757
I always stop playing after Team Sonic and Team Rose. Completing it 100% isn't worth it. Team Dark and Chaotix are incredibly tedious and not fun at all. Always liked the level designs and thought the concept was cool

>>382058308
Which one? The only MMX fangame I know that people are looking forward to is Corrupted and that wasn't canned, just taking ages to complete.

>okay I'm not going to watch any new videos they drop so the game can be as fresh as possible
>video drops
>watch it anyway
>repeat until the game comes out

Help me

>>382058121
That's not the same situation.

>>382058287
3&K doesn't.

>>382058402
yeah thats the one. Is it just one guy working on that? It looked like a mess years ago. Glad Sonic fans can make decent romhacks.

>>382058425
Fear not, see: >>382018048

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>near constant sonic threads on /v/
I love it

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>>382058629
It's a few.

>>382058514
It kind of is, company backs a game made by fans. Only difference is Mania has actual planning behind it while SFxMM was a last minute ditch effort by Capcom to please fans.
>>382058629
It's looking a lot better now. AM2R took ten years to make all by almost one guy too but it eventually came out and was fantastic so I have hope for this too. But yeah, overall there's no standout MM fan developers like Taxman or Stealth. Sonic's fanbase is just a lot more dedicated and autistic.

>>382058776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0hiwopf8Ls
It looks good but some of the sprites look off.
>Open World gameplay
the levels are gonna be shit

I'm a big fan of Sonic but never actually followed the community, who is this Christian Whitehead guy and why is he so famous?

>>382058990
It worked for ZX.

I would like Sega to do a WENDY'S toy promotion. But they would probably go with Mc.Ds for nostalgia. Or they should do a Sonic Spaghetti-O can again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4z6S6SErYA

>>382058990
>Open World
It's an exploration based platfromer, and the level design looks great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZId-ykThO2U

>>382058941
Not really, since Mania only started development after Sega green lit it, while SFxMM was in development for years as a free fan game by fans that Capcom just came in to promote.

>>382059141
He's a fanromhacker who was hired by Sega to port their older games and now allow to make his own spinoff.

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>>382059302
They should get Wendy's twitter to do the promotion. It would fit sega's character, especially with the way they currently market themselves

>>382059141
Started off as a guy in the fangame scene. Made an engine that was extremely accurate to the original Genesis games. Got hired by SEGA eventually after pitching his engine to them and used it to make the mobile remasters of 1, 2, and CD. And now SEGA has allowed him to make an original Sonic game.

He's living the dream.

>>382059141
He built his own engine just to make sonic games in widescreen.

>>382059141
just skim this >>382027851
it will tell you everything you want to know

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>>382017469
I got to the final bosses of Sonics 1-3&Knuckles, once I beat them I'll probably go back and play some old Metroid so I don't burn myself out on Sonic.

With Mania & Samus Returns right around the corner and Bloodstained on the horizon I'm cautiously optimistic that 2D platformers will come back in a big way and I won't have to sustain myself solely on the occasional indie gem.

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>>382059302
does that mean we'll get more LCD games?

>>382059387
Taxman never made rom hacks, dude, see: >>382027851

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>>382059378
the stars are aligning. Its happening.

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>>382026547
seeing this shit in action is so pleasing to the eyes compared to the garbage physics in Sonic 4, Colors and Generations

Ok so I'm going through and playing some Sonic games I haven't played in a while, and I'm really considering Heroes, what's the definitive way to play on PC? Emulation of GC version or torrenting the PC version?

>>382059910
meant for >>382059496

>>382059961
Tell me about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R16IBC_kD5o&index=2&list

Also you forgot to mention Forces.

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>>382017469
Going to be going through the Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy all throughout July. Plenty of content the added stuff and 3 games.

2017 is a great year for platformers.

>>382060008
GC

>>382059378
the levels look good but some parts are kind of 'unpolished'

>>382059387
Whitehead never made a hack, he made a custom engine for a fan game that was then used to rebuild an entire Sonic game.

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>>382059496
Wendy's Sonic chillidog & onion ring crossover when?

>>382060519
>aris has dropped persona and openly shat on sonic multiple times
>they still interact with him

I'm starting to think they're trying to fuck with him.

>>382060646
Sonic is just using them since GG has a large fanbase.

>>382060646
To be fair, he hates the games. Not the character itself

>>382034594
>that charity with Sonic and HellFC
>Johnny playing both LW

Saw glimpses of that, but holy fuck, the 3DS is damn terrible. The special stage was hideous

>>382060167
After all those shitty years with barely any platformers, this year seems like a miracle and a comeback to the 90s

>>382060646
It's spelled Aerith.

>>382060894
>>382060646
Arin hates all games since he is a failure of a human.

>>382060894
No Arin says he hate Sonic himself.

>>382061069
So are we all failures by that criteria?

>>382061069
>Arin hates all games that aren't Mega Man X
FTFY

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>sonic mania does obscenely well on a budget of basically nothing
>this leads major publishers and studios to creating teams just to make new AAA 2d platformers
>publishers realize that you can make profits that are amazing relative to the game's budget by not making games that cost 50 million to make

So begins the simultaneous rebirth of 2D and the PS2 era middleware game.

>>382061219
Well, you're not Arin Hansen being a miserable cuck banging a FAS gf.

You're not Anthony Burch

>>382061219
pretty much. But Arin is also a trendy contrarian faggot that hates Sonic so nintenbros will like him more.

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Sonic Jam in 4K.

>>382061502
>Well, you're not Arin Hansen being a miserable cuck banging a tubby FAS gf.

FTFY

>>382061603
Looks better native

>>382061383
>fans weaponize own autism to save Sonic
>Sonic's autism ends up saving the whole gaming industry instead

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*saves the Sonic series*

>>382060646
Aaron Webber, the guy who runs the Sonic Twitter, recently admitted he knows about IGN saying that 'Sonic was neve good', and also said that's he's litsening to everything.

Dude is playing 4D Chess.

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>>382062332
The Taxman's mullet is so /fa/sionable

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>>382062405
Sega as a whole seems to be learning the basics of 4D chess. Some parts are learning faster than others, but they're all getting there. It will be really interesting to see where they are in 10 years.

>>382061552
>nintenbros
Trust me they hate him too since he's a retard that can't even play a baby mode game like wind waker.

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Insta-Shield > Drop Dash

>>382062196
Sonic still dies in the end

>>382063083
Insta-Shield < Drop Dash
fxd

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>>382063342

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>>382062405
Weber has too much power at his finger tips, someone stop the madman

>>382063083
I'm gonna miss the insta-shield a ton

>>382063083
I'm honestly afraid that the drop dash will give sonic too much control over his momentum. Like Sonic 4.

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>>382063431
git fast, scrub lol

>>382063431
>mechanic that actually adds to sonic's gameplay over a shield that's hardly used

>>382063620
>free momentum for scrubs over a skill based mechanic that rewards good players

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>>382063620
>hardly used
bitch, that's the equivalent of Melee Space Animals' shine. It grants invincibility for a split second AND extends your hitbox. Shit's OP in the right hands.
I still like the Drop Dash a lot more tbqhfampai

>>382063620
>hardly used
Nigga the Insta-shield shits on all the bosses in 3&K, especially Big Arm.

>>382063771
Same honestly.

>>382063771
>It grants invincibility for a split second AND extends your hitbox
AND returns air control after a roll jump.

>>382062332
>fire out Iizuka-san and put him in a hole nobody can find
>allow Aaron, Taxman, Stealth and co handle Sonic franchise
>allow that team handle Sonic Boom as their cartoon show with all that silly shit
>Sonic would really be back for good
>fans can make a better job and understand a franchise better than someone that wants their oc hedgehogs and twisted stories with princessesXhedgehog or ancient alien monster
>hire more fanboys to handle franchises like those who made SoRemake and make a SoR4ver
>new JSR
>VF6
>make another Yakuza samurai but this time release it on the west
>make a Sega Fighters
>get the survivors of the Shining Force, SoA and Valkyria Chronicles teams to do a new jrpg

Get your shit together Sega

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>>382048078

Are we really having a legit Sonic VS Mario debate? Man I love this timeline!

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I'm coping, but I'm very excited for the release. Been replaying Sonic 1/Sonic 2/Sonic 3 & Knuckles recently.

>>382048078
I hope the hat gimmicks are kept to a minimum and we get another 3D mario where he's basically a gymnast.

>>382062636
Everytime I see him he reminds me of that guy from The Mighty Boosh.

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>>382063958
well color me surprised, this is new to me

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>>382064000
It's almost like the early 90s all over again

>>382017469
Any bets on how they're gonna distribute the classic zones?
So far we have one each from 1, 2, CD, and Knuckles
We know there are more returning stages than new ones, and the game is said to be longer than Generations which had 10 zones, and longer than any 2D game; 3 and Knuckles, if counted as one game, had 12 full zones.
We're pretty much guaranteed 6 returning zones at the minimum, but one from each game wouldn't quite get there. Will they double up on zones from any games? Will we see a Chaotix stage? The combi ring is in the game, so there is some Chaotix content confirmed.

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I'm not playing the old games on purpose so that when I replay the returning levels in Mania, they'll catch me off guard a bit more.

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>>382048078
>Implying I'm not super excited for both Mania, Forces and Super Mario Odyssey
I just like video games.

>>382064205
But replaying the old games will make you appreciate all the changes they made to the original zones.