Is there a single person who liked seeing this gun in a game?

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>>382013240
the entire bad company 2 fan base

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The fishgun is so mid-to-late-00s near-future porn.
Similar how Jackhammer and SPAS 12 were in every other shooter during late-90s and early 00s, no matter that there's only a handful of both in the entire world.

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>>382013331
>>382013331
/thread
I played bc2 from 7th grade to maxing at lvl 50 in senior year of highschool. Shit was cash this gun was the bomb.

>>382013240
who ever came up with this, it looks like a toy.

I was ambivalent about this rifle in GRAW since they also let you choose the excellent Scar rifles.

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>>382013240
>Is there a single person who liked seeing this gun in a game?

>>382013375
that gun was pure sex but it's shit in the other ones

>>382013732
I felt a little let down that DICE never added this gun type in other BF games. Saaaad

>>382013760
russians,africans and arabs

>>382013375
The Jackhammer was rampant in flash games as well

>>382013760
>never played cs 1.6
leave

>>382013240
Loved it in Mass Effect

>>382013375
>handful
There's literally only one Jackhammer

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What is the most satisying gun to shoot in vidya and why is it the P90 in CSS?

>>382013240
god damn that guns sucha piece of shit
the plastic melts after a couple mags
and thats why the g36 is superior

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>>382013240
xm8's nice but f2000 on the other hands...

>>382014393
Why are you posting a yacht in a gun thread?

>>382013375

Isn't there a couple of thousand SPAS-12s? They're just not seen much IRL cos they're kinda shitty to use.

There is only one working Jackhammer though, and that's just a proof of concept, so not even what the finished gun would have looked like.

>>382014326
p90 in modern warfare was better.

>>382014601
yeah, that "one" Pancor just looks conceptual, like a prop or some shit.

>>382013760
Best game in any game, not some plastic futuristic bullshit.

>>382013240
I used the AR and LMG versions of this in BC2 all the time

now I really miss that game

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>>382014601
couple thousand is veeery little, mate. And they're not shitty to use, just all around pointless at this point.

>>382014326

>The "I want to get out of silver ranking but I don't want to put in too much effort" gun

>>382014884
I think I read an article a while back saying that Dice don't know what it was that made BC2 so much more fun than a lot of the mainline BF games, and they won't make a sequel till they know why. It could definitely do with a comeback

>>382014243
There were a handful of prototypes and there may still be more than one in the hands of collectors.

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>>382013240
Yes, I love the fishgun.
I also love mag-fed pump action shotguns, anything with a wooden finish, and anything that looks simultaneously both dumb and cool.

>>382015105
You really cant read can you?

Literally every fucking Halo Custom Edition map had this gun for some fuck all reason.

>>382013240
I liked it for a couple of missions in GRAW, then realized the Scar was better and never looked back.

>>382015258

The gun is also in CS:GO and my point stills stands faggot.

>play a modern made game
>uses the word CLIP

>>382014929

Something like 37,000 were produced, they're not super common, but obviously not as rare as the Jackhammer.

The biggest issues I've read about them are that the folding stock is garbage, and actually cuts you, as well as being uncomfortable. And that it doesnt cycle very well in semi-auto mode, and is hard to cycle in pump mode.

I guess they're fairly average, though are pretty neat looking.

>>382014809
>Muh Mattel 16

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>>382013240
I actually like the way the XM8 looks. It was the way of the future when they first started fooling around with it in the late 00's.

>>382015148

There were three working prototypes, and two were destroyed during testing. There is literally only one left in the world.

>>382015224

Is that a belt fed MP5? Chambered in 5.56?

>>382013903
Probably the only reason why DICE did that was for realistic guns that are common for most armies. Yeah I know that sounds a bit silly since you can jump out of a plane and snipe someone simultaneously. DESU I'm a huge fan of the G3/MP5 styled guns

>>382014393
love it in bf4 desu

>>382016007
nah dude I think thats an HK53.

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Oicw master race reporting in

>>382016131

That a FAMAS you idiot.

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i love every manner of lmg and fal/slr probably because my granddaddy used that to shoot commie

>>382013760
>tfw AK-47 + laser sight on L4D2

Isn't that's just goofy looking G36?

>>382016192
can you detatch the GL/AR and use it seperatley?

>>382016192
a-... are they mating?

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>G3 and M14
>FAL
>Old FAL
>Future M14
>Future FAL

These have always been trash in other games but were all so good in CoD once you got used to them

>>382013375
I like Crysis design more than the actual one. Looks more aggressive.

>>382013240
I do. It's basically a retro-futuristic looking rendition of my favourite the G36.

>>382016192
Shit was the fucking tits in ghost recon.

>>382013240
When I was younger I thought it looked really cool honestly. Not that I am implying it's a gun for children or something I just stopped liking it after awhile.

I prefer the m1 garand or m4 now

>>382015224
I love that dumb thing, I think it was in one of Lethal Weapon movies? I've only ever seen it in vidya in some HL mod, Firearms or something like that.

>>382014482
To be fair, OP did post a fish

>>382016192
Chinese are still toying with the concept, you know? We might see the resurgence at some point.

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My gunfu.

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Heard you guys talking future shit like I wouldn't find out.

>>382016553
My dude, the m14 carried me to my first 2 or so prestiges before I switched to using other guns

>>382014393
Isn't this the gun that always breaks in STALKER?

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>>382013240
>stereotypical assassin weapon

My dream gun is a .22 break action 8 shot revolver but haven't found it yet.

>>382017063

> Costs more than an assassin would make in 5 years.

>>382017115
Break actions are kind of rare nowadays since swing-out cylinders offer the same benefits without the disadvantages of break-action.

>>382017063
>try and use this back in mw2
>couldn't hit shit
>friend tries to use it
>headshots all of the day bro

>>382016885
the definition of form over function

>>382015105
>the "i get mad at a weapon because i'm not good enough to kill someone using it" player
Rot in gold shitter

>>382017345
do you even know why it's shaped like that

>>382016192
I loved using this in Nightfire.

>>382013240
I liked it in MGS4
I avoid non-story driven shooters mind, so I don't run into it that often

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>>382015696

>>382016792
Canada is too.

>>382016371
The OICW was a failure, and H&K decided to seperate the two systems and perfect them before trying to merge them.
One result is the XM8 for the AR portion, which is just kinda meh.
The other is the XM25, an airburst 20mm grenade launcher which is baller as fuck and is a fantastic system that the US Army has lauded as being "a game changer". Sadly, during one test it failed to fire (although the round didn't detonate) and the primer caused a small injury. Ever since it's adoption has been frozen by the Petagon and it's currently in limbo.

>>382015696
>>382017695
what are some games that actually use proper terminology?

I think the first GRAW did

>>382017695
>shotgun clip
this is fine

>>382017345
>entire reason it is shaped that way is to accommodate their special snowflake no recoil meme system
>form over function
Ref?

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What are some games with weird gun selections for their setting?

>FarCry 4
>modern not-Nepal
>a bunch of german WW2 guns laying around for some reason (Mauser, MP34, MG42)

>>382017345
Retard.

>>382017810
>he doesn't use a break action 12 guage revolver shotgun with moon clips
spotted the pleb

>>382017810
Like the magazine increasing the rivet gun clip size,

The shotgun "clip" size upgrade was called something like "Revolver clip" or something like that. Fucking triggered me.

>>382016885
>wibble wobble

>>382017993
they were left over by the Nazis who were searching for Shambala, duh

>>382018018
>not a break action 4-bore elephant derringer
get on my level

>>382017894
>meme system

So something innovative that works is a meme system? It uses .45 caliber rounds, is say that's impressive.

>>382018107
>not a tribarrelled triple-revolving-cylinder-fed 20mm autocannon
Is school out already?

>>382018116
it's cool and innovative but this is fucking 2017, who the fuck needs an SMG, much less a muh fuddyfive ACP one

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I NEED MORE BULLETS FOR MY SHOTGUN

>>382013240
My friend and I compiled some gameplay of it years ago. At the time we both thought it was pretty cool.

Probably best to mute the video because of obnoxious music:
https://youtu.be/xFCyFdPSyO4

>>382017063
Only game I've seen this in besides hitman is peace walker, and no I don't play shitty cod games.

>>382018257
Just wait until they make a .300 blackout PDW AR with an integrated super-V system
you'll see
you'll all see

>>382018257
Are you shitting me? There's a shit ton of scenarios where an SMG is superior to an assault rifle. The real question is whether .45 rounds are necessary but not whether SMG's are necessary.

>>382018232
>not a Hotchkiss style strip-fed water-cooled .500 Casull assault pistol

>>382017063
Forgotten Weapons got their hands on one and said that it's actually kind of a shit gun.

>>382018454
The only scenario I can think of is overpenetration, otherwise you can get a short barreled rifle that will be sized similarly, just as controllable in full auto and will fire an actually good cartridge.

>>382018554
Ian said it was very very good, just a bit obsolete nowadays.

>>382018554
LOL Not really. It's an extremely accurate gun but a bit unwieldy and hard to disassemble and clean.It destroyed the Dragunov in a shootout.

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I'd like to see the G11 in more games.
It's ugly as all hell, but I've a thing for bullpups, and it's just such a weirdly brutalist thing to look at I can't help but like it.

-Whatever happened to the whole caseless ammunition thing, anyway? Seemed to be all the prototype rage for a while, then just sort of faded away.
Just too much bother to produce a new bullet type, or just too much wear and tear on firing chambers to be worth it in an army standard rifle?

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>>382017993
The FBI in GTA3 have AK47s. The minig- I mean M16 is reserved for the army.

>>382018551
>not having a top mounted cylinder loaded with cylindrical drum mags fed by belts of hotchkiss clips loaded with 40mm HEDP grenades launched by a bolt action side-slung swing out grenade launcher module

>>382014393
fuck you tactical tuna is great

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HEY GUYS AM I LATE TO THE PARTY

>>382018790
>bolt-action
Make it bolt-forward externally powered (chaingun-style) and we have a deal.

>>382018667
M8, the biggest cartridge is not always ideal. For covert operations subsonic rounds are ideal and they are much more likely to be used in close quarters with an smg. Not to mention personal defense weapons for vehicle operators. You don't want everyone lugging around a heavy cumbersome assault rifle. The type of weapon is heavily dependent on the scenario.

>>382018720
Too many problems to be practical
>Cookoff issues
>Storage issues
>Firing chamber fouling issues
>R&D cost
Basically it wasn't justified when NATO still has literally billions of 5.56 sitting around which will be good for decades to come, and the only real benefit was being able to carry more rounds per soldier, which IIRC isn't a huge issue that militaries are facing in the modern day.

>>382019016
Done but the chaingun is powered by a pygmy with a hand crank riding in a harness worn on the back.

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Max Payne 3 has probably the best feeling one.
Like it demonstrates how fucking deadly this thing really is

>>382016305
>>382014041
>tfw the AK is the "hits harder, but is less accurate" automatic

Always loved the thing in games, shit's always high tier.

>>382015105
Honestly most people in silver should probably just stick to using SMGs and playing riskier.

>>382018720
There'd be no way to really justify ammo pickups for that gun, unless you're in some fantasy world where it got mass produced.

>>382018667
Try concealing a short barrel assault rifle.

>>382019152
is there a real point to having a gun that can empty its mag in like 3 seconds? Does it have practical uses?

>>382019019
You can google it yourself, many people are saying SMGs are going out of style. We can just build a really compact 5.56mm rifle nowadays. Like, you give a tank crew an SMG, then they have to use it for some reason (99.9% they won't have to but you're giving it to them for that 0.1%), now they have a gun that uses different ammo from the rest of the army and is only effective in close combat, and any kind of armour can stop it. Not good.

>>382018920
kek i forgot how butt fucking ugly this was

>>382016616
in the first ghost recon, i remember figuring out where to aim the GL to mortar the enemy team's spawn with it on some maps.

good times.

>>382018720

Wasn't really worth it.

One major issue with caseless ammo is that it can cook-off, that is, the ammo in the magazine can get so hot it sets off the propellant in the mag itself, which is less then ideal.

They also foul the gun something fierce, which requires frequent disassembly and cleaning, which with the G11 at least, was a fucking pain in the ass since it was stupidly complex.

>>382019286
didn't the US want increased ROF so their pussy soldiers could actually hit something with stray bullets

>>382019152
>"we need a gun for the bad guys, they're also gangbangers in LA"
>say no more

>>382019286
>Does it have practical uses?

Fun.

>>382016007
Basically an HK21 hammered into MP5 form-format and belt-fed.

That means it's 7.62 by the way.

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Nothing brought me more dread than seeing an enemy with one of these in BF3

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Is there a single person who disliked seeing this gun in a game?

>>382017993
>most likely cheap enough to buy
>possible leftovers from the 1938 nazi expedition
Don't see anything wrong with it desu, it's not like the army is actually using them

>>382019578
>form-format
Form factor. Jesus I forgot to turn on my brain.

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Besides Siege and CS:GO what guns have the Nova?

>>382019578

That sounds entirely ridiculous and useless.

I love it.

It was good in Frontlines: Fuel of War

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This is one of the most ridiculously OP guns in Battlefield 1. Pic related
>900 RPM
>low TTK
>hipfire all fucking day. no ADS required

>>382018257
If I was clearing a house I would honestly choose a SMG.

>>382019651

Why does the foregrip on this thing always got fucking hair on it? It's an 80 grand rifle, you think they could run a lint-roller over it once in a while.

>>382016706
hollly shit good nostalgia trip there bud.. firearms... ugh :)

>>382019869
Enjoy magdumping targets to bring them down, oh and if they have body armour you're kind of fucked.

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>>382018257
>>382018454
>>382019869
Haven't you heard? Smgs are old news. The new hotness is pdws, combining the compactness of smgs with the bullets of a rifle.

>tfw you'll never get a new game with an mp5

>>382020032
>having accuracy issues with a subsonic amo smg
I land more shots with an smg that with a fucking FAL

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>>382020260
Siege has some really good SMG's

>>382019717
didnt soldier of fortune have this, or was it a different shotty

>>382019717
Swat 4

>>382019928
i'm pretty sure it's fiber from the wood

>>382019625
Boy. That game had a shit load of overpowered and broken weapons.
>M26 Dart
>AUG w/ smoke
>M16A3
>AN-94
>SPAS-12 Slug

>>382020359
sorry it was spas-12

>>382019928
The reason it's so rare is because it contains wood from the legendary hairy forest

>>382020423

Must be some cheap wood.

>>382020359
>>382020438
I think the one is SOF 2 is a nova with a sawed off grip. I only know that because there's a weird animation where he flips the gun
SOF 1 was a spas-12

The XM8 is beautiful and it's a crime nobody adopted it.

>>382019717
left 4 dead

>>382020437
>AN-94
Slaughter machine

>>382020593
>Spend billions to replace the old M4 platform
>M4 is still better than it

XM8 was such a meme and im glad its gone forever.

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>>382017142
Theres one being sold by a german gundealer for 17k right now. He´s been trying to sell it for a while.

>>382015818
Stock doesn't cut you, unless you're a monkey and ruined your stock buffer.

It had no problem cycling the full power shotgun loads for which it was designed. Light stuff like birdshot will feed most of the time, but that's why the pump is there.

It is difficult to stroke for some people because you're compressing a spring every time, but if you wanted a pump/semi shotgun, it was the only option you had for almost a decade.

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>>382020340
The MP5s in Siege are so godly. Fast firing rate, fairly low recoil. I probably hit heads more often with them than I do any other gun.

Siege also has some really odd guns tossed in there. I guess considering that she also lays down bear traps means it's not all that out of place.

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So you're in the club when this guy slaps your girl's ass. How do you respond? Keep in mind it has slugs equipped.

>>382016257
>probably because my granddaddy used that to shoot commie
Your grandpa probably never killed anybody little retard

>>382020769

Surely there's be a catch, those guns go for way more than 17k now.

>>382020793

It's just what i read, I've never used one myself. Probably it was people who saw it in films and thought it was some super shotgun, and were disappointed when it was fairly normal. I'd still like one just cos it looks cool.

>>382020463

This stupid post shouldn't have made me laugh.

Why can I land a headshot with a pistol from half map but cant land a bodyshot with a fucking awp? Like, how do I reverse pistol?

>>382020437
Forgot G3

>>382020260
PDWs are supposedly not actually very good too.

>>382020329
I said nothing about accuracy, though? SMGs shoot pistol ammo, which is not extremely effective at bringing human targets down. See: Miami bloodbath.

>>382019286
My guess is making sure you completely destroy a target because you've shot them 20 times in the time a normal gun of that size could hit them 2 or 3 times.

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>>382019682
>MG42 is a leftover of a 1938 expedition

>>382016885
that thing looks like it's gonna fall apart.

>>382021185
Nazis found the secret to time travel.

>>382021029
How does this thing work? I know in BC2 it was a pump but it just looks like a double barreled shotgun.

>>382020437
>AN-94
>balance the gun around being a 2 round burst weapon
>can spam left click and effectively make it fully automatic
>highest damage rifle with the lowest recoil

They seriously had 0 idea how to balance that game.

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>>382021292
>Hitler really won, he just had to adopt the female persona of Angela Merkel

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>We need a gun for that high tech mercenary group
>Say no more

>>382015113
I guess they won't be making a sequel then
rip

>>382021429
>AN-94
>balance the gun around being a 2 round burst weapon
>can spam left click and effectively make it fully automatic
>highest damage rifle with the lowest recoil

The good ol' Call of Duty 4 M16 syndrome

>>382021185
Didn't say all weapons, I said some weapons. MG42s can be bought.
Didn't some terrorists or shitty armies used WW2 weapons back in the 90s?

>>382021429
I miss that point in the game's life before everyone found out how good the an-94 was

even after it got nerfed it was still top tier and they nerfed the m16 too which didn't help

>>382021429

It has dual magazine tubes with 6 shells in each. Can switch between the two, which allows for some flexibility. Can have beanbag rounds in one tube and buckshot in the other, for example.

Also, the pump is done the opposite way, forward-back, rather than the more common backwards-forwards.

>>382018769
absolutely disgusting

>>382021558

Pretty sure some armies still use WWII weapons. North Korea, for example.

>>382013240
I love the fishgun.

>>382013240
>he didn't use the m8a1 in BO2

wow faggot detected. literally best gun

>>382021458
That made no sense anon

>>382021075
There is no catch, the guy seems reputable. Germans are just very practical when it comes to buying guns.
It´s either:
Pay a lot and get a something high-end (Sig X-Series, expensive custom 1911s)
Buy something that´s good for the money (CZs, Glocks)
The Wa2000 would be more of a novelty and a AI or Sako with a price that´s a little lower would probably outshoot the thing,

>>382021718
AKs are not really WW2.

>>382021502
>suddenly everyone pulls out calicos
FUCKING KRAUT SPACE MAGIC REEEEEEEER

>>382021528
I know on PC the AK was the best gun in CoD4, but I heard on console it was the M16 due to some funny business with the aim assist allowing all 3 shots of the burst to land consistently or something.

CoD4 was horribly balanced, the AK was the end all be all gun in it. Also the USP was better than the Deagle.

>>382021348
"I hope the enemy team didn't buy armor this round" the gun.

>>382021958

I swear I saw somewhere they still use some WWII-era soviet weapons, like the PPsH or something.

>>382022107
don't talk shit about the bizon
It's the perfect flank weapon because it has a 2 headshot requirement with armor

>>382015105
I rode that mother fucker to LEM. So many kills on my stat track Aasimov.

>>382022123
They have stockpiles of old stuff in storage

>>382022352

Oh yeah. Not a stretch to imagine that shit would be sold on the black market.

>>382022253
meh, the UMP killed way faster with consistent body shots, but I heard they nerfed the UMP recently and I haven't played in forever so it might be more viable now.

>>382022802
they nerfed damage falloff pretty hard, but in close range UMP still rules

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>>382013240
This weapon is the goofiest shit but I love it. More games need to have bolt-action handguns.

>>382013760
best gun ever

>>382024379
Good lord

>>382024379
Would that destroy your wrist?
My hand hurts just looking at it

>>382024379

Did a gunsmith get high on bath salts making this?

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>>382016192
We need to go bigger.

>>382024379
more games need lever action rifles and lever action pistols

>>382024379
is this... a bullpup bolt-action pistol?

>>382025519
>bullpup
Looks like single shot to me.

>>382019286
anon how many seconds do you think a standard m4 takes to empty its magazine

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I like this thing in arma 3.

>>382025610
yeah, but the action (lock? don't know much about guns, sorry) is behind the trigger, wouldn't that make it a bullpup design?

>>382025717
It does, but don't expect him to admit that

>>382025717
It looks like the chamber is before the trigger, the fat part.

>>382025717

Bullpup is both magazine and action behind the trigger.

>>382025632
but it isn't used to spray is it? is it the same deal with uzis?

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>>382019398
wrong.

>>382025550
I was never fond of my internal organs anyway.

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>>382021632
>Can switch between the two, which allows for some flexibility. Can have beanbag rounds in one tube and buckshot in the other

You'd have to be fucking retarded to load both lethal and LTL ammo in the same gun ever, much less at the same time.

>>382026051

Hey, I never said it was a good idea, but that's how they market the thing.

Probably would be good for something like door breaching, breach rounds in one tube, less-lethal or buck in the other.

And to be fair, it's a South African weapon, I'd imagine their riot cops would be likely to go lethal in a heartbeat anyway.

> be Lego Brickarms teenager
> buy 10 of them for some kewl^^ MOCs
> never use them
> want to sell them now
> nobody wants them

I originally wanted G-36s but for some reason they stopped makiing them.

>>382019286

Uh, the practical use is you can kill people.

>>382019286
>>382026634

There isn't really a practical use for full auto fire in anything that doesn't have a huge magazine capacity.

Full auto fire is only really good for suppression, that's why certain soldiers carry LMGs, specifically for covering and suppressing fire. Also why most weapons are select fire now, with burst fire rapidly becoming the norm.

>>382025550
>Manly tears fires a .357

>>382020947
>odd gun
>Sterling
Nigga, the Sterling is still used in India and other Commonwealth nations for police/paramilitaries. It only went out of production in 1988.

>>382025550
>5'11

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>>382019625
>mfw using this fucking this with the explosive slugs

>>382026918
I mean that was a while back, and I think he means odd in the sense you're playing as the most elite of the elite.

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Best futuregun

>>382021185
>>382021558
I'm pretty sure those are MG3's.

>>382027081

KRAUT
SPACE
MAGIC

>>382025997
What did they do to cait?

>>382027043
Some poorer nations still use Sterlings as infantry and crewman weapons. I'm pretty sure a lot of poorly-funded police forces still use them as well. Philippines still use the M3 Grease Gun, and Brazil used a Madsen LMG from the 1900s because it was so overbuilt.

>>382027081
Sadly we need to go to space to have any justification of using that kraut magical weapon.

>>382018257
>we are now at the point where .45 is considered a joke caliber because it doesn't "kill enough"

>>382027143
hit me up senpai

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>>382027081
I'll do you one better
>there was a partial attempt to make an LMG varient
>the internal magazine could hold 300 rounds

>>382027360
Nah. .45 still kills people good, the issue is armor penetration.

>>382027537
>.45 still kills people good
It's a subsonic pistol cartridge so it really doesn't.

>>382027513

Looks like a low-poly render from a PS1 game.

>>382027590
>being this retarded

>>382027590
Nigga tell that to the countless fucks brought down by the thing. Its sub-sonic yes, but is a heavy round. It fucks up people's insides rather than over-penetrate. Which is the issue with other pistol cartridges such ass 9mm, in which sometimes you can survive being shot in the head with.

>>382027643
Have a direct link
http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24:the-lmg11-caseless-mg&catid=11:rare-prototypes

>>382027590
Yeah, you're not surviving a burst from a vector.

>>382027827
A single burst can cut a man in half.

>>382027679
>>382027753
Pistol cartridges are not very good at killing compared to rifle ones. You need to hit vitals, and that's trickier than you think. The reason people still use pistols is that they're easy to carry.

There's a reason modern pistol doctrine is "shoot them a lot" and why most agencies switched to double-stack 9mms.

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>>382021075
>Probably it was people who saw it in films and thought it was some super shotgun,
That's exactly what happened.
A writer creates a character who is a specialist at something, and gives him a specialist gun.
Dumbasses watch the film, see the gun as cool, and buy it without understanding that a S&W model 29/ deagle model 19 or whatever isn't meant for a carry gun, or a spas is for specialists using specialist ammo, and most civilians don't need a Barret 50 to hunt deer.

You can still so it, it just won't work.

>>382014326
I always used it because of SG1

>>382027957
I'm sure a 9mm to the chest will kill you. Even if it doesn't hit something vital like the heart or lungs you'll bleed out eventually.

>>382027973
Dat Morita rifle, HNNNG!

>>382021107
Reminds me of that dumb shoulder mounted sniper from Advanced Warfare.

>>382028282
>you'll bleed out eventually
Which is absolutely terrible in a firefight, if you shoot your target and it can still return fire it gives you very little satisfaction knowing that it will bleed out "eventually" without proper medical attention.

I recommend reading this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout

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>>382027980
Mein neger

It's unwieldy and clunky as shit but I fucking love everything about Mobile Infantry aesthetic

>>382013240
I do. Haven't seen it in game since SOCOM.

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>The closest we ever got to an SMG with the power of a magnum cartridge
Impractical and all I know, but still

>>382027347
The user in the game is Canadian and BOPE uses all kinds of meme weapons seized by gangs because they're poor monkeys.

>>382028484
Won't any kind of chest hit from a 9mm be enough to put someone out of action? Sure they won't be dead but could someone really maintain an offensive when they've been shot? Also wounded soldiers are more of a burden to the enemy than a dead one.

>>382028876
Is the Canadian a member of the Mounties, the regular police force, or the military? The first two would make more sense.

>>382018720
engineers found that the brass ejected from guns actually removed a lot of heat and helped cool the gun while firing.

>>382029023
>Won't any kind of chest hit from a 9mm be enough to put someone out of action?
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug, and some perps might be on actual drugs. One shot might kill, five shots might not, and you always want to be safe in a situation like that.

XM8 was my SHIT in MGO2. Most accurate gun with a pretty good firerate.

Anything to not be another M4 Custom mook.

>>382029078
That's actually really cool if true.

>>382028282
Not really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwPtP-KDNk&t=193s

I would advice everyone to watch this video before posting about how the terminal ballistics of .45 ACP is any better than 9x19mm in a practical sense. Here's a hint, both suck ass in equal amounts compared to rifles and shotguns.

>>382029492
>both suck ass in equal amounts compared to rifles and shotguns
Yeah, and as FBI figured out eventually, so do 10mm/.40S&W. Hence FBI eventually settling for good old 9mm.

>>382029068
JTF2. As in the best the military has to offer.

>>382029683
I should have said every commonly used service pistol caliber, yes.

>>382019717
I bought a Nova IRL because of CSGO. I needed a 12 gauge anyway, figured I might as well make it a cool one

>>382015224
>It apppears only in a mod
What a shame, the volmer should be in way more more games

>>382018720
>Whatever happened to the whole caseless ammunition thing, anyway?
Cased bullets are cheaper, easier to make and more durable than the caseless round we can make with our current tecnology.

>>382029696
It's a bit of a stretch, but they do still have Sterlings in their inventory. Come to think of it, I don't think the Canadian military has invested in any new SMG since the end of the Cold War.

>>382021558
Back in the cold war the USSR had warehouses full of old captured and lend-lease weapons, they gave most of them to comunist revolutionary groups.
The Yugoslavs also had a lot of old WWII leftovers that ended up being used during the 90s wars.

>>382030692
I know our armed forces still use the fucking Hi Power as our sidearms. My buddy is infantry

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Yes, it's my raifu.

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>>382031225
My raifu is VSS

Integrated suppressor sniper/SMG? Yes please

>>382031863
>SMG
it's very very very different 9mm

>>382013240
it was cool in bfbc2

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how did we go from this...

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to this...?

>>382016885
>that reload sound in mw2

>>382032119
I'm aware, I just don't know if I'd call it an assault rifle either. Although I guess if 5.56 is, so could 9x39

>>382032573
wow, they put a small metal gun in the case with the big plastic one

>>382032445

I remember this gun from F.E.A.R.

>>382013240
I kinda liked using it in the UFO: After_ series...

>>382033649
It was so fucking retarded in Aftershock. Literally endgame tier gun with AP ammo, and very easy to find and make.

>>382013240
>just fish my shit up

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>>382027643

>>382034269
an effort was made

>>382017993
We need more modern games with WW2 weapons.

I don't know what it is; I just really like the idea of people in a desperate situation, forced to rely on weapons from an older time, no matter how little sense it makes!

The 2013 Tomb Raider had a Japanese WW2 SMG and I absolutely loved it, until it got upgraded to the AK and some modern trash...

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>>382034269

>>382019578
>>382019731
Sounds perfect for Killing Floor 2 swat perk. Basically similar to the commandos stoner 63.

>>382033061
kek

>>382033863
Laser was underpowered and looked dumb; plasma was a gimmick; sonic weapons, don't get me fucking started...

Just tool everyone up with good old-fashioned rifles and bullets. Gets the job done and looks distinctly HUMAN doing it.

>>382013240
I found it interesting how Bioware just stole the design for mass effect.

>>382034575
I liked the Sonic sniper rifle. Plasma was okay too. You needed those for star ghost missions.

I think my endgame team was a dude with PKM, a Cyborg with dual MP5ks/Plasma shotgun, a sniper chick with Barret .50, a psi-user girl with Ultrasonic sniper and the rest of the team used XM-8s.

>>382034319
This, I really enjoyed the mp40 and the luger in uncharted 2

>>382030692
We use MP5's primarily but thats for the Navy, JTF2 has access to P90's and MP7's as well. Even some RCMP detachments have been seen with P90's.

>>382019183
What? The first shot of the AK in cs up 'til source was a guaranteed hit in the center.

>>382028182
indeed

>>382027240
The group was called "Arkan's tigers" so Arkan is holding a little tiger.

Srpski humour.

>>382025127
I assume no worse than firing a high caliber pistol or revolver

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>>382019625

>Using this in Syphon Filter to blow the heavy armoured boss in to a rear rotor blade of the chopper

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>>382024379
Wouldn't it be smarter to have the bolt on the left side, since there's no butt to press into your shoulder to operate it with your right hand?

>>382013240
its one if not the best assault rifle in mgs4 online

>>382016257
>your grandpa shot a malnourished rice farmer in a third world country
a real hero

>>382016192
Fuck, now I feel like installing SoF2.

>>382024379
>hey bill where did your eye go
Unless this is a .22 the it's
>hey bill where did you balls go

>>382039680
>what are long eye relief scopes

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>>382016192

>>382039909
>clip

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I love this goofy little thing. It's fun as fuck in Payday 2, but I'm pretty sure that's the only game it shows up in.

>>382019183
AK is more accurate, until you hold the trigger down for too long in which case you're shit anyway

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>>382024379
The absolute madman

>>382039150

this guy gets it