Where were you when cryptocurrency miners destroyed PC gaming?

>cryptofucks inflating GPU prices
>Mobiletards inflating ddr4 & SSD prices
Fuck people

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>>382010852
Are cryptocurrency miners the reason nobody does games for PC?

>>382010852
what's this about? am I missing something here?

>>382011037
GPU prices jumped up more than 50% because miners snatch all the cards

Cryptocurrency mining illegalized when?

>>382010852
>1070
>900 bucks
what the fuck

>>382011037
Jews existing

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>>382010852
>Where were you when cryptocurrency miners destroyed PC gaming?
On PS4 Slim.

They're going to bring out ASIC miners over the next year or two and that should help lower the price of GPU's especially with the amounts that will get sold off

Is it time to resell my rx480 for a %200 markup?

How much will I get for my GTX 560 now?

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>>382011549

>>382011985
It's 1 TFLOPS, should be worth something!

>>382011268
>new consoles will be MORE expensive since they are pretty much shitty PC's

ayyyyy

>>382010852
>Where were you when cryptocurrency miners destroyed PC gaming?
That was Microsoft.
With Windows.

>>382012461
i blame devs pushing unoptimised ports and low budge amd 4gb ram 500mb vram shitters

>>382012461
>best makers of os
>killing pc gaming
kys

>>382012437
Consoles will get even cheaper, because they are no longer PCs.
>>382012583
>best makers of os
Kek, in which parallel universe?

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eating your moms pussy

>>382011391
If you can find a replacement then go ahead.

Isn't the newest trend to make GPUs without video output specifically for mining?

>>382013382
yes
just wait for the bubble to burst

>>382013382
how do you know how many bitcoins you mined if you can't see them

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>PC gaming is less expensive than console gaming

with evryday that goes by I hate this piece of shit a little more

>>382013734
Everyone hates cryptoniggers.

>>382011985
Is that swallow salon or amateur allure?

>>382013567
>just wait for the bubble to burst
There is no bubble to burst, there will always be new cryptocoins for the herd to jump on.
GPGPUs will never get cheaper again.

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Like anything this won't last forever. Just wait if you need an upgrade that badly. Not like there's anything even worth upgrading for at the moment.

>>382011192

It's already regulated like most other forms of money making. I remember in a previous thread there was a screencap of some idiot on reddit who'd bought way too many cards for mining than he could actually have the space or power supply to the building he'd rented in order to utilise AND had been dumb enough to take most of the cards out of their boxes before realising this mistake meaning he was begging for help to repackage them so he could return them to the stores.

Then someone later in the thread had to explain to him how what he was doing was actually illegal for the state that he was in without proper licensing.

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>>382013734
>he pays 60$ for his games
>he has an entire 3 games he plays
>he has an entire 10 fps
>he still uses his computer to shitpost on 4chan
Why are consoleniggers so stupid?

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>>382012437
You realize manufacturers get parts at cost, right? They aren't ordering ten million graphics cards from neck beards and ebay. You aren't this stupid, right?

>>382010852
Well funny thing is when Video Card Industry killed itself in few months or a year thanks to this bullshit Cyptocurrency Meme.

Bitcoin value already falling and there's a Console New Generation in few months in the Market, people will migrate to console and leave the Video Card Industry to Miners, after few months this MEME Die and Card Companies go to hell.

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upgraded every Pc component last october except the GPU because prices seemed pretty high at the time and i thought they would drop hard

fuck my fuck

>>382014124
after a crash big enough people will finally lose trust

also good news for bitcoin
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40416611

>>382013734
BITCOIN CURRENCY IDEAL

>>382013734
It honestly never has been. At no point has buying/building a PC that can play new releases at the framerate and resolution consoles do been cheaper than buying a console. It's definitely better, and playing the game on low on PC looks better than consoles, especially late into the console generation cycle, but it absolutely costs more to get into. It's arguably more economical between game sales, smart upgrades, backwards compatibility since the dawn of time, and emulation, but definitely not cheaper than grabbing a console on sale once every seven years or whatever the fuck they're doing now.

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>mfw I make $5 a day from just underclocking my GPU and letting it idol while I'm at work
Crypto mining is literally free money.

>>382014421
:^)

>>382014421
>1440p
>gtx 770
lmao

>>382014557
No, they won't. There's been so many huge crashes, and the whole DAO fiasco, that I'm confident buttcoining will never die. If there is a crash, people will just see it as an opportunity to buy into something they missed out.

>>382014669

Except for the electricity and hardware costs. I mean, if you've already got the GPU for other purposes and you are managing to make more money than the power consumption of the GPU while you leave it idling then go for it.

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>bought 3 1070's @ 400 each
>tfw already mined 2 bitcoins and can play PUBG @ 120 fps

>>382014984
Wow you can play a shitty game. Good for you.

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When do we exile the cryptojews out of our video fucking games?

>>382014557
>also good news for bitcoin
>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40416611
Well, that's primarily bad news for Microsoft. People using Windows on critical infrastructure get what they deserve.
However there is a simple way to solve the success rate of these attacks:
Make payments to these bitcoin addresses completely illegal, because you are financially supporting organized crime.
It's easily enforceable, as you just monitor the addresses through the network and anybody who sends money there goes to jail automatically.
Normalfags won't go through complicated money laundering just to get their data back and as a result, criminals lose 99 % of their income which makes the attacks worthless.

>>382015068
grapes must be pretty sour

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@382014315
>>he pays 60$ for his games
Do I?
>>he has an entire 3 games he plays
My library currently consists of 94 games
>>he has an entire 10 fps
kek
>>he still uses his computer to shitpost on 4chan
>(100^2/5)+(2^4+A) where R= sqrt(1/π)
>not using movile

>>382015305
I have a high end PC with a 1080, and PUBG is a horrible game for the lowest common denominator.

>/v/ said GTX 970 was a meme 2 years ago
>this happens
Where's the meme now fuckers? Your shitty consoles go down in price as time goes by, PC actually INCREASES its market value the longer you own it.

>>382015354

Dumb phone poster

>>382015469
Time to INVEST in a new gaming PC!

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>bought a GTX 1060 6GB not even a month ago when I was building my PC for around $230 on Amazon
>it's fucking $450+ for a used one on Amazon and $730+ for a new one on Newegg

Who else /laughingatminers/?

>>382015469

I have ssd, 16gb ram, gtx 970, i7 6790k.

I get max frames on Batman Arkham Knight and Witcher 3 at max settings with bullshit like motion blur and ambient occlusion turned off.

I get 50 frames on black desert maxed out

I get 60 fps on DOOM

Not really getting why people told me my card wouldnt run games well. I guess GTAV would run like shit but meh

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>>382015539
;^)

why don't they just mine the bitcoins out of the video cards at the factory before selling them instead of letting other people get them out

>>382015354
>movile
Figures you're a dirty monkey

>>382015849
Dumb mac poster

>>382014669

You're a fucking moron, the electricity bill just to power your computer is more than that.

>>382014921
My electricity is included in my rent. No reason not to.

>>382015884
they'd get in trouble with the bank

>buying specialty anything online
>not having a local chink shop selling grade A quality goods for cash

>>382014921
>>382015939
My power bill went down actually because the heat is enough to keep my room warm so I turned off the electric heat for that room.

>>382015884
Wear on the cards which means they would have to update all the legal noise on what they're selling.

>>382016056
Iceanon or southern hemisphere?

>>382015849
>mac
EVEN WORSE FAGGOT
HAHAHAHAH

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>>382015931
I don't know what you're talking about...

all aboard the cryptocurrency train!! next stop making money to keep buying cards!!

>>382015947
>It's another poorfags fall for get-rich-quick schemes episode

I live in a third world shithole and 1070 are at that price with the only difference being that people in the USA have a purchasing power 24 times higher with salaries 13 times bigger

>>382016258
Canuck anon

>>382016056
Not him but it's fucking 3 degrees where I live in straya tomorrow.

>>382016275
>windows 10
holy kek goy!

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If GPU time becomes worth actual real money, GPU vendors will start renting out your own GPU to you.
It won't be a single purchase with free to use CUDA power afterwards, you will pay frames per second with cryptocoins instead.
For miners this won't be a problem, they still make bucks by paying slightly less than what they make running the GPUs, they just give a part of the mined coins to the hardware vendor.
But gamers will have to pay literal cryptocoins to use their GPUs for gaming.
Mark my words.

>>382011192
Never, what fucking right does someone have to charge me fees to distribute my money to other people in the form of loans. Banks are crooked as shit, bitcoin is about ownership.

>>382016456
I'd log onto my XP VM but then you wouldn't see my (You)s so it's kinda pointless.

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>>382016375
>gtx 1070 actually mines at 25% power as well as it does 100% power
>mfw I down clocked my card so much it uses less power than stock idle
>fags leave their computers on all the time with stock clocks to seed torrents when they could save power and make money

>>382012731
>>382012461
Oh look another lincuck who thinks linshit is relevant on any market

>>382010852
Is this why budget GPUs costs as much as top tier GPUs did in the early 2010s?

>>382016582
You can loan cryptocoins, too. You can even create fiat cryptocoins without a problem.
(And this is exactly what is going to happen when BTC becomes relevant in the real world.)

>>382014075
it's a woman coughing

>>382016665
True, but a decentralized system scares the fuck out of the banks. They are legit trying to make cryptocurrency into cyber crimes. xBTC is just as a failure system as banking fiat currency is the whole reason BTC was created to begin with, to remove power from these fucks causing another economic collapse.

>>382016837

Can we please murder all bankers already?

Everyone knows the banks are the source of all evil in this world

>>382016936
Hitler tried, didn't end so well.

>>382016656
no this shit recent and has happened before

>>382016936
Bankers are like hydra or a phoenix

Wait. Cryptocurrency is in a free fall right now. By the time the Volta comes out prices will be low again

>tfw 670

Just kill me please

>>382017035
>free fall
20 point change doesn't mean shit. /biz/ are retarded fucks who don't know shit it's all shitposting there.

dont worry, when the eth mining craze dies down, u will be able to get those sweet 50$ 480/90s

>>382010852
>bought a 1060 from best buy for $200 two months ago

fucking dodge a bullet there

>>382017003
hitler went on an autistic ragefit because they lost ww1 against slavs not against the bankers

>>382017252
Sell it for a profit nigga

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>>382017361
>lost ww1 agaisn't slavs

>>382017361
Don't forget the six million bankers, goy.

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>tfw 980 Ti

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>>382017817
>tfw 960
I've been on this shit long enough that at least I'll dodge all this noise and get a 1080.

What is stupid is that you can actually buy prebuilts that cost less and give you more daily return than one you build yourself

>>382015305
I have a 1070 I managed to get back in january before you cunts started harvesting your monopoly money.

PUBG is a shit game.

>>382014579
I've only ever had consoles but pc is more economic in the long runand has more versatility because emulators. People also seem to be more inclined to make pc games too so there is more diversity there also. Consoles just seem to get meme games that are full price but half baked because publisher assholes

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>Picked up a 1070 for gaming and nothing else back in january
Suck it cryptocucks

>>382018212

Yeah i reaaally would not recommend that. Prebuilts in my experience have loads of issues for some reason. Im no expert but ive still had to troubleshoot prebuilts for friends and my very first pc was a prebuilt and it was aids always giving me problems

>>382011985
>>382014075

For anyone wondering, this is Bailey Bae from Swallow Salon.

when do new cards come in?

>>382010852
Be a smart shopper. I found this deal literally an hour ago

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-windforce-oc-8gb?mode=guest_open

>>382018684
Already available if you have connections.
My dad has a 2090 GTXX already.

>>382018784
wow anon, mine has a RX vega, can't post pics though

Can confirm that this crap is maddening. Just started building myself a new PC this month, got all the parts and everything ready to go, can't obtain a half decent GPU for under 400 now. Hell, even the modest budget GPU's are being marked up by 50%.

Had to go out to the local brick and mortar computer store just to get me a GPU that wasn't grossly over-priced.

>>382018760
Yeah, you "found" it, shill.

What are the chances this starts affecting budget tier gpu cards like the 1050 models?

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>>382010852
OK so in about 4-6 months the equations to mine will get so hard that they wont use these GPUs anymore and the markt will get overflown with used cards so the prices for a lets say 1070 will be around 200-300 bucks

this could also happen when the ETH and or BIT coin marked tanks since these 2 are the only not meme coins.

Tldr: just wait and prices will get even lower then,ceteris paribus, the mining stuff never happened

is a pc with a 1080ti,500gb ssd and 7700k for 2500$ a decent price

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just don't buy any used GPUs for the next 6 months or so

>>382018449
I usually buy a prebuilt with a nice cpu and hard drive and then proceed to strip the gpu(usually a crap chip), psu, ram.
Then I take those scrap parts and slap them in an old junker i got sitting around and resell that for $300 usually pays for the prebuilt after rebates.

>>382010852
>tfw I was going to upgrade my 2009 PC this year
guess i'll get a ps4 instead

>>382019167
no need to buy itll sell it out in another hour and a half

the same site had a 1080ti for $650 a few days ago and it was sold pretty fucking quickly

>>382018212
>>382018449
The issue is that they are built in Jewish ways.

I bought a normal prebuilt (as in a normal gateway computer, not alienware type shit) and it's purposely made to not be upgraded. Long story short, the bios didn't want newer video cards and ram and what have you, only items from the time the mother board was made unlike normal mother boards. This was probably to force one to purchase a new computer and make the companies more money. Fuck you Jews, I cored out my computer and put in non-gateway shit and it finally works.

And I planned to upgrade soon
When is this meme going to end

>>382018760
Thank You anon, a 1080 costs $1100 in my country so this is a good deal

>>382019239
what are these currency back by
and how viable are they for transaction

>>382016443
Fuck Celsius faggot, that shit has no dynamic range in the temperatures relevant to human skin compared to Fahrenheit.

>>382017586
Those 6 millions were just peasents, the bankers fled to USA long before ww2

>>382017498
Retard

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>>382019624

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>Saving up extra cash to build a PC for the last several months
>Assumed I would need maybe $800 or so for all the parts
>Almost there
>Read this thread today

What? Are you fucking kidding me?

Friendly reminder that AMD and Nvidia are going to price gouge the fuck out of the next card restock so you still won't be able to afford one anyway.

>>382019239
>Buying a card that was 24/7 anal raped for crypto mining
Enjoy your artifacts.

>>382019589
they are backed by dreams :^)
just like any other currency

>All these idiots whining about the free market
Get off my board you retarded tankies and get a job.

>>382019504
Welcome to capitalism faggot

>>382019964
Get a 1080GTX, those prices are still stable.

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>ram prices inflated
>gpu prices inflated
>have to literally spend thousands if you want a good pc

fuck this shit i'm gonna buy a ps4 pro

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>>382020014
nah m8 im just sain the market gets overflown and the retail prices will of cause adjust.
Cuz
A) the miners wont say that they raped the cards 24/7
B) normies dont understand enough of that stuff so they ganna buy them and force newegg an co to go down

>>382020132
>free market with 2 GPU manufracturers

Retard

>>382020328
>console prices raise, because all the gpus and cpus get bought up, people start daisy chaining them together for mining

MSM has been reporting on how people are making loads of money by doing this, expect the whole thing to crash by the end of the month. It's (((their))) way of communicating to each other to pull out of their latest scheme.

Grabbed my RX480 STRIX used on Kijiji for 250$ leafs early this year.

Currently using it for ethereum mining, it already paid itself.

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>>382020328
That dog.

>>382020441
there's going to be a bubble real soon
and ill be there waiting to see the inevitable

>>382020407
That's due to barriers to entry

Still a matter of supply and demand you moron

anyone have that screencap with that guy that bought more bitmining equipment than he can even power?

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This triggers the /v/tard

>>382020903
Free market means infinite companies and infinite customers faggot amerifat

>>382021260
>literally who gpu brand

Can't they make GPUs that suck at mining but are good at gaming?

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>>382021310
I think he's talking practice, rather than magicial pixie land theory my man.

>>382016056
> nvidia cards are more efficient heaters than house ones
My sides

>>382021461
i dont know why producers want to make something that appeals to less consumers

>>382019319

no.

I bought all that except a 1080 instead of a 1080ti for 1300 over the coarse of 2 months of waiting for sales on individual parts. You can probably do the same for $1500-1750.

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>People are STILL falling for the Bitcoin pyramid scheme

>>382016536
Why would the gpu vendors not just use the power to mine for themselves

>>382021461
Consumer GPUs already suck at mining compared to dedicated ASICs

Unless you get free electricity somehow it hasn't been worth mining at home for years

>>382016936
I work at a bank. In fact, I'm on the job right now
AMA

>>382021781
because they know its worthless

>>382016602
Wait, people seed on their main rigs? But why?

>>382021937
How many under-age children come in and out of schlomo's office daily?

>>382021590
Okay, explain how the GPU market is free market

>>382022049
I said I work at a bank, not a a synagogue

>>382022012
This, cryptoshit is a worthless meme

>>382022350
Explain the difference

>>382022220
I don't think the GPU market is a free market.

Does this affect the middle class gpu like 1050 ti?

>>382021781
Maybe profitable in the mid-term, but short term, the GPUs are expenses that need to be recouped, and long term it would damage brand awareness, leading to less market share

>>382022350
That's why I said office.

>>382022591
nope
i think it does for the rx 460/560 tho

>>382022447
Every fiat currency is worthless. Hell, any currency is worthless unless you trust the organization that backs it.

>>382022591
>1050 ti
>middle class
lmao

>>382022524
>>382022625
Synagogues are filled with JEWS.
None of the higher ups at my bank are jews.

Try again faggot

Jokes on you, graphics cards were already that expensive in my country.

>>382022984
Depends how high you go my man.
There's always a bigger Jew.

>>382022591
Not at the moment but if everything else is sold out and 1050ti can be run profitably then they will be snapped up too.

>>382011985
am i the only one who watches these for the music, its chill as fuck!

Still sitting here with my R9 290
No reason to upgrade, even while playing at 1440p

>>382010852
This is fucking awesome actually, now I can make profit on my 1070 and upgrade

>>382019538
when a new meme takes over

Buy more Digibytes

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>>382010852
THE FREE MARKET WILL FIX IT GOYS

>>382023391
I'm kicking myself over not getting a 580 when they first dropped. Could have easily traded that for a 1070 a few weeks back.

>>382021937
Can I give you the old lickaroo for a job?

>>382020014
When it craps out under warranty, you'll get a free card. Then just sell that afterwards and get a hot fresh new one.

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>>382023769
Yeah, it's pretty funny all the staunch defenders of free market just because it has the buzzword "free" in it.

They point out edge cases where something good luckily happened because someone dared to care to try and fix it, but then completely ignore the other 90% of the time where the free market blatently allows shitshows to exist, and cancer to just spread through every facet of human existence with little to no repercussions. It's literally "pay me to fuck you over... but I can fix that fuck up if you pay me EVEN MORE, goy!"

>>382022850
I can buy shit with money anywherebut i cant get shit with crypto so its worthless for me

>>382017003
Stalin did better

>>382015698
sell it and then buy a better card ones this fiasco ends

>>382021260
>that hairstyle

JUST

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This thread again...

Xbox has no Games

>>382019167

oh look drop just ended. kys you fucking faggot

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>tfw you built last year before these inflated GPU prices and before RAM literally doubled in price

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>>382010852
The fuck?
>bought my 1060 in January for 250$

>>382024612
How good are you at doing the old lickaroo?

>>382011549
About 40€
60€ if you're lucky

>>382027467
>tfw you built last month right before everything went out of stock or costs a shit ton

God damn I'm lucky

>>382027282
FUCK

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>tfw just bought a 1080ti for less than that 1070
Damn guys, you gotta know which cards are good and mining and which aren't if you're going to pick a card at a time like this.

>>382010852
How is this possible? Aren't prices for gpu's already fixated by the manufacturer? Just walk into something like best buy and buy them at normal price

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>>382025017
Socialism sucks because it's give money to worthless people or die, capitalism sucks because it's give money to criminal scum or starve

>>382023203
Watching Fellucia Blow from art of blowjob introduced me to some bands.

Should I get a PNY GTX 6GB 1060 for $259, /v/?

>>382015824
Got the same right except with the i5 6600k. Gta5 runs at 60fps maxed out no issues. That's 1080p tho

>>382028014
>Social Democracy sucks because it's give money to worthless people or die
Fixed

A miners buying used 980 Tis? Where?

how do even mine imaginary money wtf?

>>382010852
>mining in 2017
what
>mining on nvidia cards
the
>falling for the cryptocurrency meme
fuck

>>382025372
But you can get money for crypto. Ergo, it isn't worthless to you since money isn't worthless to you.

Why don't cryptocurrencies just artificially limit supply in a way that doesn't make chinks buy up midrange cards and try to infect my PC with miners?

Why don't we just engineer a fatal race-targeting virus to wipe out the Chinese for good?

>>382027895
MY

>>382028841
Why would cryptokids care about enthusiast PC gamers?

>>382028879
VIDEO CARDS

>>382011126
Those shitty 1070s are the double of what they're supposed to be, not just 50%.

>>382027967
I don't remember this from my playthrough of FFADF.

wts 1070 which of you good goyim wants my GPUssy :^^^^)

>>382028736
If you got on Ethereum band wagon in time you could have recouped your GPU's cost in something around 3 months.

>>382014315
>pc has 15,000 applications from office, to media, to gaming and infinite flexibility and customization, not to mention millions of 100% free games through pirating.
>console can play games. watch netflix.

"b-b-but it was only $400!"
Clearly.

>>382028879
ASS

>>382022914
low class is 2gb junk like the 460 or regular 1050.

1050 ti is medium tier along 470.

High tier is 1060/480

High-end tier is 1070

Meme tier is 1080 and beyond

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>1070s as high as $900

What a shitshow

>>382028736
Ethereum shit bubble is on the rise.

>>382029330
>Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.

>These apps run on a custom built blockchain, an enormously powerful shared global infrastructure that can move value around and represent the ownership of property. This enables developers to create markets, store registries of debts or promises, move funds in accordance with instructions given long in the past (like a will or a futures contract) and many other things that have not been invented yet, all without a middle man or counterparty risk.

>The project was bootstrapped via an ether pre-sale during August 2014 by fans all around the world.

And just what in the fuck does any of that mean?

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>>382029540
>1060/480
>high tier

>>382012583
>best
You realize the NT kernel was not designed with security in mind yes?

>>382029540
Are you stupid.

>a metric load of salty underages who don't know what crypto is and how mining works
not surprising in the slightest

>>382029790
t. retarded 1080 owner

>>382013734
Get a 1060, literally bargain and better than 480/580 in every game, if both cards are OC'd

>>382029614
Doesnt matter.

It's just another ponzi scheme.
Regardless of how much you "earn" - you cant get cash out any of it in a reasonable timeframe.

>>382029654
Depends on what your display is.
Considering 1080p is still kinda standard, 1060 is practically high-end at this point.

>>382029978
AMD niggers will contest this.

>>382029614
If you really want to know you should look into the concept of cryptocurrency. Surely you heard about Bitcoin at least?

>>382029898
1070 is mid-range.

>>382022021
You can just fire up a game and make a bit less money with one GPU running LOL or somethings.

>>382030041
Except it isn't a ponzi scheme. The market is controlled by supply and demand. And yes, you can get cash out of it very easily by selling your bitcoins at an exchange.

>>382030057
It's close enough to the truth. The only reason I refuse to go the 1060 route is Nvidia's stubborn refusal to support adaptive sync. It's a fucking industry standard by now, fuck off with your overpriced proprietary implementation. If I were in 1070 range I wouldn't be bothered due to sufficiently high frame rate.

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pcbros why dont you make the jump to console gaming?

>>382030379
Who the fuck wants bitcoins that will give you real money for them?

>>382030249
Its not

>>382030446
I will buy a Switch in the future. Considering this shit, do you think they'll be more expensive at the end of the year?

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>>382010852
Got my 1070 for $380 right before it happened.

>>382030454
Plenty of people, hence the current value of 1 BTC being at around 2300 USD. Have a look at Coinbase or something.

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>>382010852
Can't say I'm upset.

>>382010852
by not getting into crypto I really feel like I'm missing something

>>382030454
People who want bitcoins to pay for something.
Remember fucking silkroad?

>>382030379
>Doesn't know how a ponzi scheme works

Just when I was thinking about building a new PC this summer. I hope cryptocucks kill themselves when their meme currency crashes.

>Cards are being bought to make an actual living
>Making shit loads of money and becoming stinking filthy rich
>All you faggots are crying that you can't play your video games
How often does it set in that your lives are shallow and worthless?

>>382030627
You mean drug dealers right?

Seriously, who else would use this shit?

>>382030543
You might see a bundle around Christmas time with 1-2 Switch included for same price as current Switch. That is just speculation though.

>>382030446
Paying to online...

paying to watch Youtube...

paying for porn...

GET OUT MY /V/!!!

>>382030761
You're just bitter you didn't get in on the profits in time.

I know because I'm in the same boat.

>>382014405
Except those card companies are making cards for the consoles, too. You're retarded

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>mfw I got a 480 last December for $150

>>382015824
>I guess GTAV would run like shit but meh

GTA5 is EXTREMELY well optimized on PC. Most games that offer a paid online component are very well optimized for obvious reasons. I have a lolgaminglaptop with an Nvidia 980m (mobile version) and I can manage 60fps with very little sacrifice, graphics-wise. Gets a little toasty under the hood, though.

>>382030676
Yeah, but say, the drug dealer has amassed a big fucking load of bitcoin, who's willing to give him real money for his shit?

>>382030645
Those getting into crypto now are people who are trying to make up for missing out on bitcoin. Just browse /biz/ for a few minutes and you will see the entire board is people posting about literal who shitcoins trying to get rich quick. It's a sad state.

>>382019403
>muh worn fan bushings
>muh worn front fan axle
>need to replace coolant and oil
>rear graphics differential needs replacing clutch-pads

Literally the only thing that will get damaged is fan bearing, unless the previous owner didn't have 5 cards plugged into some 500W Eurocase-tier PSU. Mining GPUs run full tilt 24/7 at 75/80 degrees depending on cooling solution, if anything the silicone should be in better condition than your gaymen cards because of less cooldown/heatup cycles and less idiots who don't know how to OC and just pull Voltage slider all the way to the right.

>>382030761
Just save for a switch.

Make the Switch™

>>382030379
> Except it isn't a ponzi scheme.
> A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator generates returns for older investors through revenue paid by new investors, rather than from legitimate business activities.
It literally is.

>>382030446
Honestly, because a controller ensures that the genres I predominantly play will never be released on consoles.

>>382030698
>A Ponzi scheme (/ˈpɒn.zi/; also a Ponzi game)[1] is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator generates returns for older investors through revenue paid by new investors, rather than from legitimate business activities. Operators of Ponzi schemes can be either individuals or corporations, and grab the attention of new investors by offering short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent.

Mining crypto is the process of "competing" to resolve transactions through the blockchain, which generates more currency for a limited number of years after launch. Not a ponzi scheme, as its creator doesn't have any control over the actual generation directly.

I was on /g/ laughing at people filling their garage with GPU boxes.

They got the last laugh though.

>>382021894
Noone mines bitcoins anymore except few tryhard autists, the ASIC cards going up will make your investment obesolete before you even break even. Everyone does Etereum, which ASIC can't do for now.

>>382031042
The new investors don't pay any revenue in bitcoins to get in, and therefore the owners don't get any from the crypto expansion. Not a Ponzi scheme.

>>382030926
Currency is fluid man.
The hypothetical dealer then sells his bitcoins back to the market so that the original buyers can buy again, and so that new buyers can buy, and so that other buyers can buy from other sellers.
The value of the currency is in essence the people using it growing larger.
There is inflation and shit with DUDE BITCOINS ARE WORTH LOADS IT'S ALWAYS GOING UP I'LL GRAB SOME as well. And then people who do that then sell them off at a loss or a gain because they need another currency.

Literally how every fucking currency works.
Why do people trade EUR for USD?

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>>382010852
>newegg

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Guys.

What if both parties, gamers and miners alike, are subhuman trash for arguing about what's right and what's wrong.

Use your GPU as a fucking dildo for all I care.

>>382031303
Not to mention that there aren't any "owners" to speak of. The blockchain is public and P2P, can't be deleted.

People are going to start buying prebuilts now because of this shit.

>>382027749
I can polish shoes with it

I live in a small town with an independent computer parts store, some guy from NYC drove down and dropped over ten thousand dollars buying all their GPUs.

>>382031197
The chinese do. A whole lot.

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>It's more cost efficient to buy prebuilts now

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>work hard every day since I was old enough to work
>live alone ever since I graduated high school
>Barely able to afford food, let alone vidya
>was thinking about eating less so I could afford to upgrade my computer, I've been putting on weight anyway
>this happens
>my life gets even harder so other people can live in the fast lane
>as usual
I hope one day I get to blow up this damn planet.

>>382030926
So long as there's demand for the dealer's products there's going to be people willing to sell their stuff for bitcoins because they can in turn use them to get high. The coin circulates just like any other currency.

If you want another example think of the petrodollar. Part of the status that the USD currently has is tied to the fact that it was the only money you could buy oil with on the international market. Thus the dollar could never lose all its value.

>>382031785
Why do you compare yourself with other people?

>>382015939
>it costs more than $5 a day to power a computer
kek

>>382015939
Consider living in a better country, faggot.

>hoarders buy off all cheap gpus
>HAHAHHAA PCFAGS LMAO
>scalpers buy off all cheap systems on launch for resale
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>382031307
So basically what your saying is that currency is in essence, one big pyramid scheme.

>>382031785
Welcome to capitalism

>>382010852
This is why console gaming will never go away.

>>382032602
Currency is a tool of society, society is the original pyramid scheme.

Two people work together because they may be better off, one is more better off than the other and directs their partner more than they are directed.
Get enough people and eventually the one directing has defined the way things are enough that their direction itself becomes justified by the lesser members and then you're set.

>>382032602
Currency is a construct, a stand in symbol for stuff and services you can get for it. There is no inherent value in it.

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why are gpus still being used

bitcoin stopped being worthwhile on GPUs like 4 years ago

>>382033164
Ethereum, whatever money you spent building a PC will be made back in about a week by mining it

>>382033164
new flavor of the month crypto you dope

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>this entire thread

I thought we were here to talk about video games and not have a billion red pills shoved down our throats by people who think they're smart.

>>382029367
>millions of 100% free games through pirating.
By that logic consoles are free too since you can just steal them from the store

>>382033164
Ethereum is newer, there are differences in the computation that make GPUs more effective for now and most importantly the boom is too young for people to have invested in designing specifically for it.

>>382033421
What are you doing here? Are YOU stupid too?

ETA of a crash? I need a new GPU and RAM.

>>382033164
This kinda happens whenever a new generation of GPUs comes out, thanks to that processing power increase. AMD cards like 480 or 580 had good price performance ratios and people bandwagoned to start mining, phenomenon which eventually extended upon Nvidia cards as well due to a severe lack of supply of AMD cards.

>>382033448
This is correct, piracy is less harmful to the retailer though, that and the method used means that the risk is several orders of magnitude lower.

>>382033597

We're all equally retarded in the end.

Some of us are just more self aware than others.

>>382033740
Self-awareness of one of one's faults usually distracts him from others.

>>382010852
Do you actually make good money with cryptomining? Seems like a lot of investment.

>>382033653
If anybody knew, they'd be looking for ways to short it and keeping they're mouths shut.

Also, it has nothing to do with RAM. That's on phones switching to DDR4. There may be some increase in memory production but I'm not optimistic about prices.

>>382026932
this tbqh, people are even selling 7950s for 100-120 eurobucks atm

>>382033448
Yeah, i forgot i can stealth a console by clicking a linck on the internet from my room

I bought my 1070 for about 400 bucks, you telling me I can sell it for a profit now?

>>382033872
In general, no.
Might make your money back if you're lucky and the boom lasts awhile.
Big gains are like most big gains in business.
You got your leg in before the boom and got lucky, or you're so big you can cash in on the boom quickly and significantly enough.

Red pill me into a Xbox One X

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Christmas came early this year

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Just wait until the cryptocurrency bubble bursts and enjoy the tears

>>382034498
It's not going to burst as long as it's the go to currency for everything shady not to mention ransomware.

>>382034671
We're witnessing the birth of the first currency backed by the criminal part of the economy. It's fascinating.

>>382021260
I'm lucky, my microcenter limits GPU purchases to 2 per person, per visit. If they recognize you, they won't sell you more cards. There are obvious ways to get around it, but still, they actually have GPUs in stock at ~msrp on a consistent basis

Can somebody tell me what cryptomining actually is?
The computer is working on something and it earns you some form of currency or what?
i was living under a rock for years, explain it to me please

S-so is this just an American thing?

>>382010852
Playing on my xbone

>>382035205
it's similar to folding proteins for Stanford using your pc, you lend your your computing power to help solve whatever the other end of the net throws at you

>>382035347
No, in fact because the payout is the same worldwide some of the poorer countries are probably even more affected.

teaching the thirdworlders to read was a mistake

>>382034498
>Bubble bursting
>Ever

It might be near-to-worthless at one point, but it'll never go aways as long as Mexicans are making golden testicles out of their drug fueled buttcoins

>>382035510
And that earns you money? Interesting.. whats the catch tho?

>>382035347
hell no, gfx card prices in Europe are sold out almost instantly on availability with prices turning more and more absurd

>>382035205
You use your spare processor cycles to provide computing power to somebody who directs it to be used.

The thing about the currency is that its nature has been completely subverted for its prize nature to allow for better concealed transactions.
Silkroad used bitcoins a lot before it was shut down for example.
Then it blew up more because normies saw the graph point up and got on board.

>>382010947
>Mobiletards inflating ddr4 & SSD prices
How?

>>382035716
No catch. You aren't earning shit with just leaving your standard rig on and farming.
Power costs and unit damage means the gain won't actually be that large.

Except when it booms, like Ethereum has recently.
It's like any investment, if you get in late you put your money in and hope for a higher return.
Or you put low amounts into high risk and maybe one of them chooses to be favored by the cartel of the month and its value booms.

>>382010852
Whats the gpu for mining bitcoins

>mfw bought a GTX1070 for scientific computing for my thesis and now I'm gonna use it for mining
it was fun to jump in earlier

>>382034414
As much as I want to believe it will die, there have been bigger drops before.

>>382035897
>>382010947
If anyhthing they are lowering their price for over production

It's not that hard to make back your money, though it's obviously not guaranteed. Decided a few weeks ago to make a rig of my own just for kicks, which is super late, but partly as a hobby, and if I made some decent money, just icing on the cake. Bought 6 1080ti's, with the rest of the parts came out to about $4k. Decided on nvidia just because I didn't want to mine the coins amd was good at, too much competition, there are a smaller number nvidia can do well, but they exist.

After electricity, make about $40-$60 a day, depending on the price of the coin at that moment. Should make my money back in maybe 3-4 months, just selling at the low price they're at. If the coins take off, then I made a decent amount of money. If they really take off like some have, then I made a pretty damn good amount. And if they crash, well, it's fine, again, did it partly as a hobby/out of interest. I can either move to a different coin, or just sell the cards back, make a decent amount of the money I paid back.

my shitty old desktop needs to be replaced, are 1060s sold out?

>>382035897
Demand. Phones moved to DDR4 and you are now competing with smartphone producers. For example Samsung is a major supplier of RAM and flash. Do you think they'd rather sell it cheaply to the consumer market or put it in their devices for higher profits?

>>382036461
480/580, 1060, and 1070 that I know of.

>>382036461
That's the go, it seems.

>>382036420
>1080ti
You fucking idiot. You want the cards with GDDR5, not GDDR5X

is an rx 480 good enough to mine ether with? gotta get in on that really soon

Can I mine with a SLI setup? Is it more efficient?

>>382035716
The catch is that if it crashes you might never break even on the cards you bought. If you already own a good card there's no reason not to put it to work. I think a new 580 was breaking even in about 90 days a few weeks ago. And that's at ridiculously overinflated prices (think $450+).

>>382031072
>Not a ponzi scheme, as its creator doesn't have any control over the actual generation directly.
But he does he literally has the hash

So, i have a fuckin GTX 750Ti, is it even worth bothering?

>>382036730
Not necessarily. Maybe for something like ethereum. For other algorithms, getting the most powerful card you can, over the long term, will be more cost-efficient then springing for something like a 1060/1070. Initially, just due to how much cheaper the lower-end cards are(or were), they're more efficient. But the extra hashing power from the clock speeds, even if you take into account memory differences(and again, that doesn't apply to all algorithms), it makes it worth it over time.

>>382014579
>$500 console upgrades every 3 years now
nope, PS4.8 in 2019 for $499 usd plus tip

>>382034890
You can get any type of drugs sent directly to your PO box with next-day delivery anywhere in Europe with no way to trace it to the seller or the buyer, unless they physically wait for you while you pick it up. It's really fascinating.

I don't really do drugs, I tried shrooms and weed a few times, not for me, but I understand the demand and I think if it's for personal use, people who are interested in it should be able to find a more reliable and safe source than a shady guy in a dark alley. Bigger sortiment aswell, for better prices.

>>382010852
>mfw I just picked up a 1080 for 700 kangaroo dollars.
Must suck being an amerishart.

>>382035598
>blaming other people for your lack of satisfaction
>somehow still implying your wellbeing is the only one that matters
>being retarded enough to project your insecurity on a mongolian horse riding competition board

they'll destroy consoles too once a new contract needs to be agreed upon for the supply of GPUs

>>382010852
Wut, I just bought a 1080 for half of that

Just bought a 1070 for 500 euros. Will sell my old 390 now. Is it any good for memecoins?

>>382037349
1080 and 1080ti use GDDR5X which is not as good as the GDDR5 used in 480/580 and 1060/1070 for mining. Their prices haven't changed as a result.

>>382037309
No, those are custom chips and AMD is not going to let consoles go even if they make a razor thin margins. They absolutely need to stay in console space to survive against Nvidia on desktop PC. They're that far behind in GPUs.

>>382021461
1080 and 1080ti
GDDR5x sucks at mining.

>>382037239
My local boat-people store are still stocking them super cheap as well.

>>382037223
The sentiment(that turned out to be hilariously ironic) of stuff like silkroad is really interesting yeah. If the entire line from production through to delivery was as anonymous then drug crime would vanish. Obviously it ain't anonymous completely and only covers the transaction portion of the process as is, but still the effects are crazy.

Theoretically, could I sell my 1070 high and just buy a 1080?

>>382037528
lol, and /g/ still refuses to recommend anything else.

>>382036546
Over production of it will still make it cheaper in the long run

>>382037528
I'm pretty sure they did, even if them miners don't want them there's less options on the market overall so people looking for a new video card are more willing to consider those. Wouldn't make sense if 1080 cost more than 1080Ti, right?

Prices here are decreasing slowly, they got probably afraid about money after last crash.
I hope it will back to normal in this week... or I kms, cuz my old pc died month ago and I want play some fucking vidya .
I'm starving

>>382029084
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

THEY FUCKING LAUGHED AT ME WHEN I BOUGHT 1070 ONE YEAR AGO

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW

yes I was in a chess club

>>382037689
>if 1080 cost more than 1080Ti
1070 cost more than 1080Ti*

>>382037636
As with any sale, anything is possible if you find the buyer.

>>382037572
>they lost the E3 PC shill show this year as well
Fuck imagine being AMD.

I can just go down to microcenter and buy one for $400

>>382037636
>could I sell my 1070 high
why would anyone buy it from you instead of just of somewhere else where is cheaper

>>382037636
Used 1070s seem to be selling in the mid $400 range on ebay right now. It looks like you might have to pay a difference, but it could be worth it.

>>382037913
They're all expensive.

>>382037078
That makes me wonder, are any on the older cards like 980, or the 750s of use for mining? Some of them have low power consumption

>>382037856
I imagine AMD is very happy actually. They are set to take a big chunk of the much more lucrative server processor market from Intel. GPUs will have to wait until they got enough funding.