This is amazing.

>>381999708
I didn't even know you can open up the glider mid-ragdoll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB1ucmJSgRE

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>>381999708
I love this stupid shit

https://youtu.be/5hTKpoF2gws

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>>381999708
it's amazing how much silly TECHNOLOGY Nintendo managed to pack into their very first, modern open world game. It's like playing something out of Hideo Kojima's head at times.

I keep forgetting that Nintendo owners are 3 gens behind everyone else and find basic physic puzzles impressive.

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>>382000949
>basic physic
you mean basic on PC back in 2005, yet almost totally nonexistent on modern console games, because of focus on GRAPHIX + weak ass CPUs?

Not to mention the game has tons of very fine-tuned simulations that most devs wouldn't even want to try tackling in their games. Even less so in dynamic open-world titles like this.

>>382001079

Fun doesn't always make for a good game.

You guys should check out Just Cause 2. It will blow your fucking minds.

I can't wait to replay the game on hard mode now that I am actually much more familiar with the game and how to exploit it.
It's great fun though. The game really wants you to break it. So now that I know how, I will.

>>382001428
You're right, but fuck you anyway

>>381999708
Yeah, but you'll never have to do it because you can just skip straight to the final boss in like a half hour.

>>382001079
>tree rocket
>Not Tao Pai Pai.webm

>>382001079
just like dragon ball, amazing.

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>>381999708
>>382000226
>tfw not enough brain power for making up stuff like this
>every shrine took more than hour for me

enough

>>382001428
Good thing BotW is fun AND has great gameplay + atmosphere.

>>382001976
They probably take more time trying to bypass doing the shrine normally than doing it this way. Trial and error. Makes for cool things you can watch and technically do but likely take longer to actually get working.

>>382001450
Except that Just Cause is pretty damn terrible in just about everything but physics. Besides, aside from the cables the physics really aren't all that fun play around with. Disregarding mods.

Its great because they give up a fuck ton of tools you can apply in multiple scenarios, which aid in accomplishing different things. I love it when freedom is in games like this.

>>382001976
Speedrun all the shrines

>>382001079
Can't you make the same shit in Just Cause 2?

>>382002136
I actually did a handful of Shrines "all wrong", yet much quicker than I was apparently meant to. Some were a total lucky shots, but some I just stared for a few seconds, saw an obvious solution, and proceeded to run through the entire thing within couple minutes. One such example would be that one with a wind-circle room with a hole for the ball in the middle. I just carried the sphere right to the edge of the hole, stopped its time, and ran to the elevator it activates.

>>382002458
Lets imagine you can do almost everything in just cause 2 that you can do in breath of the wild. Just cause 2 still falls short on every other aspect of the game.

>>382002129

Sure, if you've only played Nintendo games for the past 12 years.

>>382000949
>Autists try and spin this around and turn it into consolewar shit
Kill yourself

>>382002632
>Consolewar
>when you can play this shit on wii-u and pc
??

>>382002557
They're both open world games (=shit), so I'd say they are on par.

>>382002364
I wait for the hc dlc.

>>382001079
>Tfw when modern open world games have no useful physics and have actually regressed in TECHNOLOGY
>Tfw it took BOTW to revive Crysis level fun, a game made in 2007
Skyrim, Horizon: Scripted Dawn, Witcher 3. This is where we are at since Crysis. It's kinda pathetic. Thank you BoTW.

>>382002632
just ignore them, this game has reached meme status with how much praise it's gotten that anyone who doesn't have the game gets completely ass blasted by the sight of it and starts smacking away on their keyboards while breathing really heavily

>>382001079
tao pai pai levels of awesome

>>382002875
it gives me so much pleasure to hear a sane fucking person speak on this board. I feel like im drowning in sony fans.

>>382000949
You can always post something from your HL2 seesaw puzzles, anon.

>>382002806
look, you can say you don't enjoy the game, but it isnt "shit". it does alot of things right and is fun to play for many.

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>>382002558
I actually haven't, and I bought an used WiiU just for BotW. The game was simply put amazing; 100 hours later, story all finished and tons of side questing later, I'm still finding brand new things in the world.

>>382003208
yep, it's a great game.

>>382000893
WTF i love zelda now

>>382002806
Look at the little rigid whiny baby. Go talk to a human being and see what they think of you.

>>382001692
Oh yes wonderful idea, do go ahead and post a webm of you steamrolling the last area and boss with just weapons you find in the castle, no divine beasts slain, and no upgrades whatsoever you fuckin pro speedrunner

>>382003582

To be fair, I did the castle before anything else because the weapons and shields in it are fantastic. Parrying guardian lasers is the only issue you should have that early.

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manlet

ok that game looks fun

>>382003181
>>382003520
>takes elements from other games
>doesn't innovate in any meaningful way
>"b-but it's way better than those games"
I didn't actually mean that insult, but I used it because you guys are moronous fanboys.

>>382004453
That's one thing but i wouldnt even proceed to the last boss, i'd just take the loot and leave as well

>>382001428
>Why would you play video games to have fun?
>I'm perfectly content with my blu ray movies
>have you guys seen Talladega nights?

>>382004505
>6"2' vs 5'11"

>>382003089
>I feel like im drowning in sony fans.
E3 2017 was a mistake

>>382004704
Think of how much innovation you could bring to the world if you weren't pontificating out of your ass on /v/ all day.

>>382000893
This is pretty fucking cruel. GOTY or riot btw.

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Mind = Blown

>>381999708
woah are you telling me BOTW is that easy?

>>382005123
>no magic
>no glider
shit game desu

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>>382005123
>Positioned so you couldn't get in front of the plank and push it backwards to keep it ramped the right direction
It was probably fixed to a pivot regardless, but still

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>>382001079
Shit. This is actually fucking sick and could be useful in some instances. All these webms are making me realize that I played this game like such a basic faggot.

>>381999708
BoTW is shit

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>>382005440
Welp, you've convinced me.

>>382001450
You can't even do that much in Just Cause 2. Especially nowhere near this level of creativity

t. 100%'d the game with 100s of hours

This fucking game

>>382005524
No problem.

>>381999708
>"EEEEHOHOHOOOOEEEEEY!!!"

>>382004704
>they give up a fuck ton of tools you can apply in multiple scenarios, which aid in accomplishing different things. I love it when freedom is in games like this.
and an open world game where they actually let you climb to the top of that mountain.
a game doesnt have to fucking innovate to be considered good or fun. botw does build upon many things, though.

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>passing off a glitch as an actual game mechanic

>>382001692
I guess if your only reason of playing games is to see the end credits, you're right.
But some people actually play games because they find them enjoyable.

>>382005765
Look up emergent gameplay, retard

>>382002830
exactly how I feel. Love crysis love Botw

>>382004998
>still no Ricky Bobby sequel
I thought Sony cared about their fans...

>>382005396
I haven't checked speedruns in a while but last I saw they incorporated something like that but with a rock to shave off like 40 seconds.

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>>381999708
i love this in videogames.
solutions to problems where you don't know if the dev knows about it or not or if it was an intended solution or not.

>>382005765
>a glitch
It's fully intentional. There are admittedly a couple of legitimate exploits. But really, the more you try to break the game the more you just realize that the game always took your supposed exploits into consideration and accounted for them.
It's a game that's more than happy to have people go for unconventional solutions to move forward.

>>382005765
never implied it was an actual mechanic., but it is fun. utilising the games mechanics to achieve a desirable outcome is great and fun.

what about this >>382000893
you can do many things like this in the game.

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>>382005765
>glitch
You use that word, hombre. I does not mean what you imagine.

>>382001428
>>382001604

Shut up, don't play video games for something other then fun.

>>382005765
so bunny hopping isn't a game mechanic either?

>>382006268
depends on the game.
it's not a game mechanic in every game
not even that guy

>>382005765
>glitch
Nothing about that was glitched. You could call it cheating, but it used those powers that Link has to propel him. I believe he Stasis'd the drawbridge, hit it so it would launch, detonated a remote bomb for oomph, then un-Stasis'd it, went flying, then pulled out his hang glider to sail right to the end. I personally haven't played the game but that's what it looks like.

>>382005765
It isn't a glitch, all of the trials are like this and it's clearly intentional.
>trial where you use gyro to navigate a ball through a maze
>can just flip the maze upside down and roll the ball straight to the end on the flat underside
>trial where you need to use metal crates to conduct electricity
>can just drop metal weapons and use thouse.

>>382005765
You can argue it's an exploit, but a glitch? No. U are using intended mechanics to produce a result the developers didn't take into consideration; but you're still playing the game how its meant to be played by using the appropriate mechanics to do what its meant to do.

>>382000128
damn what, it turns into scatmans world?

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>>382001428
>things that are good aren't necessarily good

>>382001428
only on /v/

>>382006359
so bunnyhopping in quake isn't a mechanic.

>>382000128
Is it possible to start the game from the beginning and defeat Ganon with 0.5x A Presses?

>>382006609
when it launched it indeed was not a mechanic

>>382006250
>implying
Literally everything you enjoy is fun. If you enjoy a story in a game, that's a FUN game. Go away with your buzzwords

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>CEMU is still garbage

>>381999708
Good shit, OP. I found this the other day on reddit too.

>>382005765

You're given a rune specifically to launch objects as shown in the webm. Stops time for an object and all forces applied to it are added together and applied when the effect times out. How could it be called a glitch in any sense?

>>382000893

I won't lie the attention to detail in BOTW is reminiscent of kojima's insane details in Metal Gear Solid 2, like those fucking ice cubes or how the rain was done in the tanker.

>>381999708
>Takes all the fun out of the puzzle.

>>382006898
>This and Monster Hunter were going to sell me on a Switch
>I can't justify buying a console for one game
Shame, this still looks really fun to me. Some of the best emergent gameplay since The Phantom Pain

>>382007567
>implying that fun isn't replaced by the fun of finding a unique, crazy method to skip the puzzle

>>382000949
Kek. The gameplay in BotW genuinely feels next-level compared to the archaic shite you think is good. Everyone making open world adventures now has to up their game to compare with BotW.

>>382000893

DO NOT bully guardians!

>>382004505
manly_tears_visits_the_shire.jpg

>>382007567
While I agree in a sense. Breaking the puzzles is its own puzzle.
I tried to do all the puzzles the "intended" way my first playthrough. But now that I am about to start my second playthrough I intend to break the fuck out of it.

>>382005765
The game actively encourages such experimentation. Fucking around with how you can interact with the world was one of the major design focus for the development team.

Keep crying.

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>doing that one puzzle where you have to guide the ball in a maze that moves with your controller.
>get frustrated and sperg out with my controller, maze is flipping all over on screen.
>Ball drops and the maze smacks the ball, the ball flies all the way to the destined location.
>puzzle solved

Yes, I do like this "emergent gameplay" mechanic.

>>382001428
Would you say that fun is just... a buzzword?

>>382005123
>nu-v pretends physics in HL2 weren't innovative
They still are aren't they

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>>382008162
I did that too. The ball maze puzzle was so poorly made I just flicked the ball up into the air and turned the control pad upside down.
My roommate shook his head and left the living room.

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>>382007447
it's weird how some people use MGS2 as the TECHNOLOGY example, when I found all of the sequels to have way more of that stuff in total.

And for obvious reasons, BotW reminds me the most of MGSV, though this game's actually finished and filled with content.

>>382007860
Guardians are made for bully.

>>382006898
You're garbage you lainposting shit head.

>>381999708
BotW's physics are impressive, too bad the actual shrines are garbage.

>>382002806
>They're both open world games (=shit)

BotW is probably the only good open world game I've ever played (assuming you play with the HUD turned off) since it's chill as fuck and fun to just explore the world. Granted I'd probably hate it just as much as normal if I gave a single solitary fuck about completing the story.

>>382008806
I played with the full HUD on, and it was still amazing, immersive fun. I'm still finding new shit all the time, two months later.

>>381999708
would be nice if there weren't 120 shrines full of nothingness, but actual dungeons where you find a piece of useful gear like past games

>>382008938
>full of nothingness

I just solved a baby puzzle in an elaborate way! I f*icking love this game!

>go to the cold area of the game
>reach tower, it's covered with ice boulders
>bring out my flame sword
>notice they actually slowly melt when I bring the sword near it
>notice my temperature gauge actually went up a bit because I have the flame sword equipped

Neato.

>>382009002
sad samefag is sad nut also funny,
keep crying

>>382005123
Yeah, now show me the part in HL2 where you can organically use said physics constantly in gameplay to solve problems and fight enemies in totally unique ways.

whats even more amazing is how the game runs at a flawless 120fps

>>382002485
>I just carried the sphere right to the edge of the hole, stopped its time, and ran to the elevator it activates.
If I'm thinking of the same one, that's what you're supposed to do to get the item chest in it.

>>381999708
>doing the puzzle that has you use the gyro to move the ball around
>Hear people say they just flip the cage over and roll the ball down the flat bottom side
>Still can't figure out how to reach the ball
>Use the underside of the cage as a paddle and smack the ball across the room like a ping pong ball into the cradle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IakZtHzBL8

Am I just insane or does this song actually change from shrine to shrine? I'm almost positive that the bagpipe melody just didn't come sometimes.

>>382009319
>gravity gun
Q.E.D.

>>382008467
>The ball maze puzzle was so poorly made I just flicked the ball up into the air and turned the control pad upside down.
That was actually intentional. There's another ball maze puzzle where if you turn the controller upside down there's spikes on the bottom of the maze in which the ball can't move on.

>>382009683
not even nearly comparable

>>382009660
You're insane.

>>382009660
Pretty sure blessing shrines don't have the part you're talking about, I noticed it as well.

>>382009789
HL2 came out in 2004

what's your excuse?

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>>382009319
Well, there's explosive barrels on shelves which you can shoot to collapse onto enemies below, which both games have.
There's the saw blades which you use to slice enemies in half, grenades which you can pick out of the air with the gravity gun and toss back at the enemies who threw them.
You can drop cars on enemies to squish them. I know I'm missing a whole bunch of shit, but last time I played it was like five years ago.

Honestly, the entire game is based around physics based gameplay. It gets fucking boring after a while. And so did HL2.

>>382001450
just cause is a fucking horrible series. shit vehicles, shit shooting, shit enemies, shit world design, it's just fucking huge and pretty with big explosions. very uncreative and uninteractive.

>>382009839
What do you mean? BoTW does physics based gameplay better, as is expected from a much older game.

>>382009918
zelda is a fucking horrible series. shit horses, shit shooting, shit enemies, shit world design, it's just fucking huge and pretty with big explosions. very uncreative and uninteractive.

>>382006898
I just finished the game on it.
It's not bad at all you just have to delete your shader cache every now and then otherwise it crashes.

>>382001428
A good game can't be fun

>>382010016
btfo

>>382009839
Is their any other game besides the HL2 series and Crysis that have a physics system integrated into game play as BotW?

>>382001428
Honestly I'd rather spend my life playing "fun" games rather than "good" games then. If a game is good but you're not enjoying it, is it really a good game?

>>382010016
this doesn't work because it's not true

it has great horses, great gyro aiming control, great enemies, the best open world design of all time, filled to the brim with puzzles, encounters, and NPC villages with story content, has few small explosions, and has some of the most interactive environmental and physics based abilities of any game ever released

>>382010105
no, that is why they're the three best games ever made

>>381999708
Wow, I've never EVER seen something like this before besides all those first person shooters from literally more than ten years ago. NEVER, EVER besides all them. Nintendo truly are innovating in this stagnant industry.

>>382001079
this is just like one of my japanese animes

>>381999708
Fuck.

Please don't make me buy a switch

>>382010162
>great enemies
guardians have one attack that can't hurt you if you do something so simple a retard could do it ("push button when light go blue")

>>382001428
I feel bad for you robots.

>>382010252
Hm?

>>382010236
Hm

>>382010352
The flash is inconsistent in tells I thought, since distance affects the time to reflect. I always go for sound

>>382010352
>pretending guardians didn't wreck your shit the first dozen times you encountered them
ok bub

>>382005123

I used the chair to climb up the air vent in Portal.

>>382010252
What first person shooter allows you to launch yourself off of any random object like that in a free, open world? I'm curious

>>382006147
NORMIES GET OUT REEEEE

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>>382010313
Then buy an used WiiU, and homebrew it to heavens. That's how I roll'd couple months ago.

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>>382005026

>>382001428
What did he mean by this?

>>381999708
For a brick, he flew pretty good!

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>>381999708

The more I think about the shrines being actual places in Hyrule, the more they frighten me. How far into the earth are they? How deep does the pit go? Was the entire continent's bedrock hollowed out to make room for these things? It is too mysterious for me.

>>382010148
Yeah. Silent Hill isn't what I'd call fun, but it's a great game.

Fun isn't the sole emotional state you're capable of experiencing when playing a video game.

>>382010967
Silent Hill is fun though, many people have fun with feeling fear.

how better is the switch x wiiu version?

>>382011098

Stop being a lazy ass and use an actual word what the fuck does x means.

>>382010509
Or or or he can just emulate

He can avoid buying a dead console and an uncertain one

>>382010016
Look at this cry baby. Holy shit.

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>>382001428
fuck off

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>>382001428
IF IT'S NOT FUN, WHY BOTHER

>>382010897
It's Doctor Who style space pockets.

There are Shrines we KNOW cannot rightly exist within the bounds of the physical world. Just check the one at the Rito village if you have any doubts. It's on a small rocky outcropping yet somehow houses a MASSIVE chamber full of lava.

>>382011098
Switch is the definitive version.

pc poor fags will pretend that playing the inferior wii u version on a broken emulator can't run the game without glitches crashes is somehow better.

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>>382010897
>they frighten me
Well. They weren't banished to the twilight realm for nothing.

>>382001976
>>every shrine took more than hour for me

literally how. Only like 3 or 4 were a little tough. All the other ones took just a few minutes.

>>382011932
Oh man watch some streamers. They get legit stumped by the easiest puzzles

>>382010461
>i'm bad at video games designed for and tested by toddlers

cool

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>>382011672
I never thought about that.

>>382012026
>I-I swear I didn't die a single time to a guardian in the game, or go scared by them!
You're such a tough boy, anon

>>382012026
no, i find guardians easy to deflect now too but when you first learn the timing it's extremely high risk:reward because if you mess up once during the first half of the game you're dead

>>382011812
I've never seen a grenade jump in a video game before. Cool video dude!

>>382011672
Hey, you're right about that. The long-ass elevator shaft you seem to come through made me think you just got transported straight down, but that wouldn't make sense with your example. That actually makes everything a bit less spooky.

>>381999992
Yeah, I used it to survive falling off a mountain.

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>>382012253

>being this butthurt about a game

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>>382001079

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>>382012178
That's pretty cool! I remember creating electric bridges with the weapons in my inventory in some shrines to avoid unlocking conductive blocks.

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Is there any feel worse than when you realize you can't trigger your bomb rune while shield surfing?

>>382012178
Wtf I had no idea you could do that

>>382008549

it's not because it had TECHNOLOGY, it's because it was the first to have TECHNOLOGY you fucking faggot, the game was ahead of its time in everything but gameplay which was just a copy pasted metal gear 2 all over again with some fixes

>>382012416
Can I just say that I'm sick and fucking tired of ragdoll physics in games.
I can't be the only one who feels this way. I can't count the amount of times I've cheese killed enemies by ragdolling them into a wall and repeatedly whacking them to keep them from getting back up.
And also fucking tumbling down a hill after getting hit, like for fucks sake this isn't fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdx9Sd1JxI

whenever I see these webms i realize how bland my playthroughs are

>>382012178
i fucking love this game.

>>382012672
>open video
>see stream
>oh cool he's going to switch to the TV screen soon
>he never does
>he just puts his camera aimed at the screen
WHAT

>>382012253
He's also using the upward momentum from the formation of the ice pillar.

>>382012630
>it's because it was the first to have TECHNOLOGY you fucking faggot,
Nah, it's just the first one people actively started to dig up various details out in the open.

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>>382012542

>>382001428
If the game isn't fun then why the hell are you playing it?

>>382001428

>Few years later and this faggot still saying fun is a buzzword

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>>382012672
>how to record: absolute degenerate third world retard edition

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>>382012826
One of the more difficult jumps I've seen in a game.

Very nice.

>>382012826
wew

>>382012789
Whoa upward momentum for the first time in a video game! Thank you nintendo

>>381999708
looks like those old son-of-a-guns, the speedrunners, will get a kick out of this one!

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>>382012826
The fucking absurdity of it all

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>>382012631
I know that feel, bro. Video games used to have amazing, hand crafted death animations, now we have this ragdoll shit everywhere instead.

>>382012826
You don't need the octo-balloon set up, you can just drop and detonate a bomb in midair.
Actually, in a speed setting, no one has found ANYTHING that octo-balloons are required for.
They're cool physics objects for sure, but they don't open up any additional effective strategies.

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>>382013087
>>382012253
Fucking Ningins

>>382012826
I fucking love how these always end up with link ragdolling like a fucking moron

something about the ragdolling in this game has a lot of momentum to it, he stops really quickly, makes it more satisfying than GTA4/5's ragdolls

>>382001428
t. Neil Druckmann

>>382012826
This is Grand Abyss tier of intricate jump-skips.

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>>382013231
>you can just drop and detonate a bomb in midair

>>382013231
You use it for rafts

can't go back to Bethesda games after playing botw. how did they do everything right while Bethesda does everything wrong?

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>dem 4 titants
>those cross-room puzzles
>those optional solutions so you can rush through when you are good
>that verticality
>those non-existent loading times and braindead enemies slowing you down all the time

Perfect Zelda dungeons. Hope they give us one more.

>>382001428
A game that's fun isn't necessarily good, but a game that's not fun is never good.

>>382013165
Man, death animations. I miss that shit. I played Perfect Dark again a few months ago and was delighted to see enemies actually react to your bullets.
Developers have become lazy.

>>382000128
Wait was it always like that

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>Gimmicks that are fun for a few hours then get old because the actual content in the open world is tedious dogshit

Literally MGSV tier

>>382000893
what the fuck is this shit? an open world sandbox?

>>382013165
somehow the game that popularized it, HL2, still has some of the best death ragdolls I've ever seen

>>382013595
Words of truth. A good game is fun, but a fun game isn't necessarily good.

>>382013560
>fo4 rips off rust, gets shat on
>botw rips off garry's mod, suddenly its the game of the decade

the wonders of having the name "Zelda" on your game

>>382013572
yeah the dungeons were fun as FUCK

>>382013850
>botw rips off garry's mod

>>382011812
blowing yourself up with bombs to get to unreachable places is in literally every Zelda since ALTTP.

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>>382013850
>f04 rips off rust

>>382013902
Vah Naboris was amazing.
Vah Ruta was pretty good.
Vah Medoh and Vah Rudania weren't too hot though.

>>382013813
the actual gameplay is fun, both games are great. the only thing I found tedious about MGSV was the resources bullshit and micro management you had to do. A ton of the playtime is spent in idroid menu

>>382013813
Protip anon: most people don't play games for more than a few hours

shit doesn't get old when you work 40 hours a week and can only play for an hour every day

>>382014059
Do you shield slide off ice pillars you created for momentum

also are they glitches or actual game mechanics

>>382013813
MGS5 didn't even have those first couple hours desu
within the first hour it becomes tranq and fulton simulator

>>382014184
>Do you shield slide off ice pillars you created for momentum

Yes? watch a 3D zelda speed run.

>also are they glitches or actual game mechanics

there isn't a difference. Both are you utilizing the physics from bomb explosions to propel link.

There isn't a way to prove that one is more intended than the other because they are literally the exact same exploit of the physics engine.

its just standard nintendo fuckery, where they literally never account for speed runners absolutely destroying their game due to the shit and overlooked mechanics

and before you say this is intentional, they literally tried to fix some of the bugs in OoT 3D and MM BECAUSE of speed runners dismantling the n64 versions, same with windwaker HD.

they literally spaghetti all over the place during development

>>382014123
I agree, pretty much my thoughts exactly

>>382014379
okay so how do you shield slide in games that don't have shield sliding

>>382013560
what's wrong with Bethesda's games, anon? I suggest you buy Skyrim again to refresh your memory. It's even coming to Nintendo Switch!

>>382014275

I just don't get the hype around Zelda Breath of Wild. It's a fantastic foundation for future Zeldas but seeing "10/10s" just reminds me of MGSV BIGLY.

But Witcher 3 and Bloodborne were legitimately good games because they had their priorities in check. Witcher 3 was an engaging narrative masterpiece with fantastic side content (some of the best quests ever) and Bloodborne was Myiazakis magnum opus with its unique setting, sublim level design and excellent bosses (Ludwig etc).

Breath of the Wild genuinely reminds me of MGSV. A solid 6/10 that gets 10/10 scores on brand name alone with an empty boring as fuck open world that is only kept marginally interesting/above average due to the solid gameplay foundation and present gimmicks. Dungeons, OST, Story, Side quests were all trash because the open world was the priority instead of the actual content.

>>382014123
Rudania and Medoh had their moments but the other two were consistently great.

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>people acting like botw's take on sandbox and open world isn't revolutionary and will create a precedent
I didn't play it and don't even own a nintendo console, and it's fucking obvious
Some of you guys wouldn't know good game design if it hit you in the face just because it's on a console you don't like blah blah.
Stop your cognitive dissonance

>>382014472
>Bloodborne is good because gameplay reasons
>MGSV is bad because gameplay reasons
>BOTW is bad because gameplay reasons

>But witcher 3 is a narrative masterpiece

without fucking fail witcher fans in a nutshell

>>382014472
For many people who played MGSV and BoTW it was their first open world experience. So they have nothing better to compare it to and think Kojima and Nintendo did it perfectly. When it's decisively average.

>>382014432
>ignoring most of my post

kek

here's OOT and Majora's Mask's shield slide equivalent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJYlWrdXvnc

Yes, it's an unintentional exploit of the physics system, but so is every single BOTW video in this thread. The game allows itself to be broken by skilled players.

>>382014123

Yeah, I weren't really feeling it on the last two either. At least they had awesome environments around them.

>that part where you have to destroy Medoh's cannons
>try getting a good look at the continent on the other side
>I actually can't see the end of it

>>382014472
>Dungeons, OST, Story, Side quests were all trash
Nigga you gay

>>382014568
> I didn't even play it
Wowee discarded

>>382014472
It's okay some games are not for you. Breath's world is much more interesting to me than MGSV though, and the OST was great. The dungeons were great but short, and some of the side quests are good.

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>come for webms
>all this talking about irrelevant shit
Post more webms

>>382014617
literally nobody thinks MGSV is a perfect open world and most people agree BOTW's open world past the hype could be improved

But then there's losers like you who see a 10/10 review and get mad

>>382014472
>dungeons, OST, Story, Side quests all trash
>bloodborne and not demons is the magnum opus
Why do you have such shit taste?

Seriously demons is so much better than souls and blood it's not even funny

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>>382014728

>>382014568
>revolutionary

how? What did it revolutionize?

It has a bunch of physics/materials that interact with one another in an open world? Minecraft does that, it's why minecraft makes a bajillion dollars.

It doesn't have a map so that you remain blissfully unaware of the density of the content in the game? I'll give you that, I'd imagine a bunch more games are going to start removing your map.

I'm trying to think of things that BOTW did that are actually atypical for open world games.

>>382001079
What's the trick to doing this? Sometimes It just toss me up ward taking damage or it just flies away without me.

>>382014805
Are those enemies fighting each other? I love shit like this.

>>382014826
Not being a breadcrumb trail simulator?

Most open world games fall the fuck apart when you're not following the rollercoaster ride, the open world just becomes a side diversion

>>382001428

+1

>>382014838
you need to ensure that the angle of launch is right. I've found the charge-attack rolling to help set the angle more horizontally.

*eats your lemons*
https://youtu.be/PCdx9Sd1JxI

>>382014945

>Moblin can't find a weapon so it grabs a bokoblin and throws it at you

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>>382001428

>>382014976
>Not being a breadcrumb trail simulator?

How is Zelda not that? It just turns your map off. It's not that BOTW doesn't have an open world packed with hundreds of distractions, you just can't see them laid out for you.

>>382014838
The trick is to have enough room behind you before it flies off.
You'll notice that even in that webm, he crawls forward towards the middle of the tree, but when it flies off he shoots back towards the back end of the tree.

If he had been standing furhter back he would have just flown off and the tree would have gone away on its own.

>>382014805
>Graveller used Smack Down!

>>382015108
>Hinox can't find a weapon so it grabs a fucking tree out of the ground and throws it at you

>game doesn't have any real reward for discovering anything. Sometimes it even rewards you with a literal piece of shit that actually becomes useless after a while.
>Shrines are braindead easy, people have to fuck with the physics to make them interesting
>The story is awful and nearly nonexistent.
>The framerate actually makes the game unplayable at times.
>The weapons are nothing more than junk because of how easily they are to break.

It's a solid 7/10 that gets 10/10 reviews because it's a Zelda game. It's at least better than MGSV, which tried to have a story but it was insultingly bad.

>>382014945
They aren't fighting each other, enemies don't fight each other outside of a few canned interactions (like >>382015108).

Those enemies are aiming at link and hitting one another, like the enemies in wind waker or twilight princess. The enemies in BOTW don't have great AI.

>>382001428
/v/ in one comment

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>>381999708

>>382013829
It's because HL2 handcrafted the physics engine to work in HL2. Everyone else just throws in a physics engine without significant edits and makes it ragdoll.

>>381999708
Is this going to be at SGDQ?

>>382015206
>Sometimes it even rewards you with a literal piece of shit that actually becomes useless after a while

Do you actually know what you're talking about or are you just repeating something you heard on /v/

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>>382015206
>anything before the final boss is just a means to make the final boss easier

>>382015320
I mean, the korok seeds are heavily implied to be poops.
That's why your reward for getting them all is a big one.

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>>382006489
>damn what, it turns into scatmans world?

>>382000949
you're right brother, press x to win corridor walking simulatosr where you spend more time watching cutscenes than actually playing are waaaaay better than this kiddy shit

>>382015313
Fuck, I hope so. I also hope it's not an any% run, those are short, samey and boring. Should be a Four Beasts run at the very least.

>>382015256
I see. Still, that's pretty cool. Once I finally play this I'll spend my time trying to make monsters smack each other.

>>382015419
but how is it useless? Inventory slots are objectively useful

>>382015345
>anything before the final boss is just a means to make the final boss easier

that's all botw is though. It's not like the game has pacing or a narrative that ramps up in the final hours to make the final encounter have stakes, it's a game about link going through 100 shrines so he can get strong enough to beat an easy monster in five minutes.

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>>382001428
Why do you do this?

>>382000893
>It's like playing something out of Hideo Kojima's head (pre-MGS4) at times
FIXED

>>382006076
>enemies take the ball
so this is why I failed so often

>>382015339
Radical

>>382014568
>I didn't play it

>>382015339
>centuries into the future historians cry bullshit, and that its all an exaggeration whenever people recount all of the stupid crazy shit Link did on the way to Ganon

>>382015518
They likely mean past the halfway point, as they have helpfully provided over twice as many seeds as you actually need.
Once you have the 440, the remaining 460 are useless.

>>382013829
>HL2
>good ragdolls
Come on dude. HL2 ragdolls are horrible. The human/combine models have weird bone structures so their legs can't bend outward from the hips and their arms are attached to the edge of their shoulder instead of closer to the center. Most of the time you kill an enemy, they just slump over with absolutely no weight. Usually the only good ragdolls you see are the ones where there's a specific map entity that "suggests" ways for ragdolls to fall, like when there's a combine up on a guard tower and they do a dramatic fall on death since the entity's placed below them.

>>382001450
just cause 2 is repetitive copy paste garbage

>>382005892
Look up "grasping at straws"

I love felling a tree next to an enemy camp.
Stasis it. Charge it.
Then whistle so that the enemies all hear me move towards my side of the area.
Then have them all be mowed down with the tree.

So is BOTW Link the hero of technology?

>>382006752
No. You don't even know what a half A press is. After a half an hour video explaining that shit you'd expect people to understand but all you can do is meme about it like a retard.

>>382015339
why does it seem like you can only do like five things in this game?

You can freeze water, you can stop things and then launch them, and you bomb stuff. All these webms are super samey.

>>382015746
Just like BOTW.

>>382015339
link needs a pink KILL YOU tunic

>>382015117
IT'S DOUGHY

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>>382015681
>Nah man I swear the guy took Cuccos out of Kakariko and traveled the world with them, using them as a WMDs

>>382015807
Nothing in BotW is copypasted, everything is handcrafted

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>>382001428

>>382015746
It's repetetive copy paste garbage filled with TECHNOLOGY

NAME ONE OTHER GAME WHERE YOU CAN GRAPPLE TO A PROPANE TANK AND SHOOT YOURSELF INTO THE ATMOSPHERE

YOU CANT

THAT MEANS THAT THE GAME HAS WORTH

>>382015805
Because those are the most common skips. Magnesis is not that useful for the skips

>>382015898
now does that actually further you in gameplay or is it just useless meandering for fun

>>382015886
Everything in Just Cause 2 is handcrafted, genius. That's why the world has

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>>382001428

>>382015886
Sure it is.

>>382015898


That's JC3 though, you can't do that in JC2.

>>382015898
Well I really cannot argue with that, really I can't. JC2 was really ahead of its time

>>382015717
Why do people just get on /v/ and make shit up? Do they just assume everyone has not played the very popular videogame they are lying about, much like they have not?

>>382015784
When you complete all 120 shrines the sages leave a gift to you in the Forgotten Temple, it's a tunic similar to the one in Zelda 1, named the Tunic of the Wild, and it fits you perfectly, so BotW Link will likely be referenced as the Hero of the Wild in the future.

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>>382001428
You insulted Reggie.

>>382015963
>now does that actually further you in gameplay or is it just useless meandering for fun

1. You could say that about literally every webm in this thread. Barely anything is required to actual beat BOTW.

2. It gets you super high up in the air in a game where you have a parachute.

>>382003089
>I feel like im drowning in sony fans.
i know that feel too well...

>>382016009
he's right, HL2 ragdolls did not age well, really. The physics are still cool tho

>>382015917
It just seems like the games has a couple overpowered moves that you can use to bullshit past literally ever obstacle in the game.

Is Cemu good enough to play this yet?

>>382016069
You "could say that about every webm in this thread"

or you could look at how they're solving actual dungeon puzzles with it and not throw out basic videogame mechanics for the purpose of shitposting

>>382014826
Its innovation is the fact that everything has multiple different applications, all of its different systems interconnect with each other, everything contributes to a singular end goal, and there's no segregation between the open world and the game itself.
Basically, in other open world games you have a big open area for you to pointlessly dick around in and maybe look for useless collectables, and then you have story and side missions take place in a separate instance from the sandbox in a rigid linear fashion. But in BotW, the world is filled with stuff to do, and all that stuff always gives you something with practical use in combat and exploration, and can have some use in your ultimate goal of fighting ganon. All the systems of combat, exploration, cooking, and so on feed into each other, so no matter how you go about things during the game, it blends together fairly well

>>382016197
That's half the fun

what you don't see in these webm's is the dozens of times they tried to make it work and could have just solved it normally, but there's a level of fun in being presented a maze puzzle and simply flipping it upside down and using it as a tennis Racquet

HL2 has the can you can throw in the guard's face, do you "have to"? no not really but it's fun as fuck

>>382016197
If you're creative enough I guess. I beat every shrine, and while I cheesed a few, I did most of them the "right" way, and I suspect most people did too.

>>382016149
No, samefag, you are not right. Firstly, I've seen the limbs go every which way. Secondly, they don't just slump. They'll fall, launch, slide, tumble, flip, etc. The physics system IS the ragdoll system. Last: ragdoll-physics interactions are great launching shit, explosions, and various weapons have a wide range of impact on NPC actors in HL2.

I will fucking go record webms right now but the thread will he dead by the time I'm back kek.

>>382016197
They require quite some practice to pull off, I tried and failed many times

Honestly I would just do it the normal way

>>382015339
>not hittin the guardian with the log

come on

>>382016476
Maybe my memory is failing me but the guards always always end up in the weirdest positions after shooting

>>382016325
"Its innovation is the fact that everything has multiple different applications, all of its different systems interconnect with each other, everything contributes to a singular end goal, and there's no segregation between the open world and the game itself. Basically, in other open world games you have a big open area for you to pointlessly dick around in and maybe look for useless collectables, and then you have story and side missions take place in a separate instance from the sandbox in a rigid linear fashion. But in MGSV, the world is filled with stuff to do, and all that stuff always gives you something with practical use in combat and exploration, and can have some use in your ultimate goal of fighting XOF. All the systems of combat, exploration, recruiting, and so on feed into each other, so no matter how you go about things during the game, it blends together fairly well"

"Its innovation is the fact that everything has multiple different applications, all of its different systems interconnect with each other, everything contributes to a singular end goal, and there's no segregation between the open world and the game itself. Basically, in other open world games you have a big open area for you to pointlessly dick around in and maybe look for useless collectables, and then you have story and side missions take place in a separate instance from the sandbox in a rigid linear fashion. But in Witcher 3, the world is filled with stuff to do, and all that stuff always gives you something with practical use in combat and exploration, and can have some use in your ultimate goal of finding Yennefer. All the systems of combat, exploration,hunting, and so on feed into each other, so no matter how you go about things during the game, it blends together fairly well"

your explanation is so basic, so unspecific and so dodgey you created a new pasta. congratulations!

>>382016325
>Basically, in other open world games you have a big open area for you to pointlessly dick around in and maybe look for useless collectables

sounds like you have a lot of stuff to do.

>But in BotW, the world is filled with stuff to do
anon it sounds like you're saying that

>all that stuff always gives you something with practical use in combat and exploration, and can have some use in your ultimate goal of fighting ganon.

It just gives you equipment/food/other resources, but how is that any different than any other open world game? Mad Max gives you gasoline and food and you use both of those to power up your car.

You're pointing out things that it has in common with other open world titles but are claiming the elements are more significant without providing any reason why. Why is getting a new sword that does +5 fire damage a bigger deal in BOTW than it is in any other game where you get generic equipment, say skyrim?

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>>382001428

>>382016450
>If you're creative enough I guess.

what's creative about using the best tool in the game on every obstacle?

If I have a skeleton key nobody would call me a mad genius for using it on every door. That's just what any reasonable person would do with such a clearly powerful tool.

>>382016638
Well yeah, they're rigid bodies after all. It wasn't perfect. But don't you dare tell me that shit wasn't reactive, because I know your ass didn't play it then.

>>382006076
>not just drinking a level 3 speed elixir and running to the shrine unscathed

>>382016834
What if you had a lockpick that could unlock any door but it depended on how good you were at lockpicking with it, it could take 1 mins or it could take 1 hour. But the key for the same door is regularly less than 10 minutes of puzzling around the corner that the devs left for you.

OP is only so OP as you are at doing it.

>>382017098
But if all the lockpicks are solved by the same method (just using stasis to make unintentional platforms) then why wouldnt I use that instead of puzzling?

It wont take an hour unless you're too dumb to repeat what you did before.

>>382016009
>>382016476
>>382016638
Play the game and you'll see the limb restrictions in action. You could also ask some of the people in the modding community who have analyzed the game for years.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Phys_ragdollmagnet
There's the entity I was talking about. One example in game is when you go behind a certain combine barrier in one of the city 17 rebellion maps, there's a couple CPs there and one of them is up on top of a large watchtower, shoot him and you'll usually get a very dramatic looking ragdoll since there's a magnet placed below him.

>>382016476
>Secondly, they don't just slump. They'll fall, launch, slide, tumble, flip, etc
Most of the time they slump over though, which is what I said. Enemies turn into ragdolls on death, with a few exceptions like the antlion guard, so most of their deaths look really lame as a result. If you're lucky and the map is well designed, they might fall off a building and hit a lamp post or something, but chances are you're not gonna see them do anything interesting besides fall over.

>Various weapons have a wide range of impact on NPC actors in HL2
That's just not true. There's like 3 different types of reactions - bullets which make soldiers flinch sometimes, explosives which knock enemies around, and the pulse rifle alt fire which has a unique animation.

>But don't you dare tell me that shit wasn't reactive
Nobody said that, they just look like shit most of the time. Is this really how you respond to criticism?

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>>382000949
This is true. Zelda was lackluster in almost everything gameplay wise. Take this game for example:
>Open world, 3d movement, physics "dungeons" (challenges)
>Better combat (no menu navigation every 2 minutes because your weapon broke)
>More physics than BOTW (destroy buildings)
>Better story than BOTW (Main character actually talks)
>8 years older

The only really innovative thing in BOTW was the weather system. Everything else I'd seen before and ended up bored and quit after 2 divine beasts.

>>382012631
YES. Holy shit, yes. Human bodies don't even flail like that, watch any gore/accident video: you don't see limbs flailing about like they're made out of jelly the second the body gets hit, so you can't use the "it's realistic!" excuse. It's just developers being lazy cunts.

>>382017343
I don't even want to respond to this but:

Explosive barrels, sawblades, vehicles, revolver, crossbow, shotgun, SMG alt fire, physics props, any combination thereof all produce tangibly different results.

Also you're right, the ragdoll effect during disintegration for the rifle alt fire IS cool!

Yes, the skeleton rig is not the best.
>It makes the game boring!
>I never said it was boring! It just looks dumb!
And now we're contradicting ourselves to save face.

Whatever, you haven't even played the game I don't care go fuck yourself you 13 year old cunt.

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>>382001428

>>382017549
>games should be like a liveleak video
>stupid shit /v/ says

>>382017321
>But if all the lockpicks are solved by the same method
Not that guy. But they aren't though.
I have a feeling you've gotten the impression that these tricks are somehow far more useful than they actually are.

>>382017509
LMAO shitposters are sure getting desperate

>>382016680
Because it's more than just a sword with bigger numbers to hit things with. As I said before, in BotW, everything doesn't just have one purpose, but multiple. Let's take that fire sword you gave as an example. In the game, the fire sword can not only be used in combat, but also to cut down trees for wood, create campfires to cook food and change time at, or light grass on fire to create upstarts for easy vertical movement. Right there that one sword has applications in resource gathering, exploration, and better healing/buffing yourself. And even if it was a weak-ass sword compared to what you have already, it's still useful for those above reasons, and the fact that you need a steady supply of new weapons to replace the ones that break.

>>382017917
Way to miss the point retard.

>>382016416

>Using it as a tennis raquet
My brother of african descent


>that one puzzle with the conveyor belts, and the blocks you're supposed to timestop so you can pass the lasers and i think there was something more.
>Seems kinda horseshit
>Get a good timestop angle and smack it instead, use the treasure chest to pass the lasers

>>381999708
This is what I love about BotW, it lets you get creative.

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>>382018010
Presenting facts and reaching a conclusion is shitposting these days

>>382017998
that's kind of a catch 22 though. either they're useful and the game is busted open by a few endlessly repeated actions, or they aren't useful and the player doesn't have that much freedom at all.

>>382018024
It can also warm you in cold climates and can be used to thaw or melt frozen objects or ice type enemies.

>>382002458
That still would be two games within a period of one to two years.

>>381999708
you can even do this in dwarf fortress tbhfamalam

>>382017789
Explosive barrel/SMG grenade are both explosives. They do the same thing.
Revolver and shotgun are both bullet-based weapons. They also do the same thing.
Physics props/vehicles are both blunt impacts, which I did forget to mention, as well as sawblades since I wasn't thinking of physics props.

I never said anything about the game being boring, strawman harder. I said the ragdolls are shitty. Maybe I used a combination of "boring" and "dumb" to describe them, but those are both true and were specific to ragdolls. There's been no contradictions.

>hurr durr you never played the game despite referencing a specific source engine entity and its placement in the game
Glad to see you concede on the models being rigged improperly, at least.

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I already got the Zelda game of my dreams years ago. The fact that Nintendo decided to slap the name on an earliest access open world survival crafting game just further cemented in my mind how low they've sunk. Please look forward to hard mode DLC.

>>382017509
>Everything else I'd seen before
But can you name a game that did all of it?

People always cite other games as a means to say that there is no point to BotW somehow. But it's like the fact that the cited games lacks everything else Zelda is always ignored.

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>>382001428
>A retarded comment on /v/
I'm not shocked

>>382018234
Why such extremes? It's useful sometimes. Sometimes more and sometimes less.

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>>382001428
LOL BAHAHAHHAHHA

FUNNIEST COMMENT I HAVE RED IN A WHILE IN THIS SHIT HOLE!

Like THE MAIN MAN REGGIE SAID:

IF ITS NOT FUN,THEN WHY FUCKING BOTHER

>>382018539
>But can you name a game that did all of it?
I literally did in my post. Everything except weather which I acknowledged as the only really innovative part of BOTW. But it doesn't make up for all the things Red Faction did better, and I had more fun with red faction 8 years ago than botw this year.

>>382010313
BOTW Is fully emulatable in 4K even in an old i5 Sandy Bridge.

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>playing BotW
>"I wonder if this will work like I hope it will"
>it does
>happens every time

>>382018821
Red Faction does not play much like Zelda at all nor does it have all the things Zelda does.