After i played the old rainbow six and ghost recon games i've

>>381996768
Because that isn't realistic

>>381996826
>Enemies having decent reaction speeds and good eyesights like all normal human beings isn't realistic
>But them having the eyesight range of an MGS soldier and the reaction speed of a slug is somehow more realistic
huh

>>381996826
FPBP

>>381996994
i think he means that the newer is unrealistic

>>381996768
Because in Rainbow the reaction time is artificially fast, the AI opponents actually have a completely different moveset and animation system to Rainbow operatives and can 180 headshot with the finest of hackers while your AI buddies suffer from the same movement and aim penalty constraints as you, it's actually completely unfair.

Ghost Recon's AI is highly scripted and fails completely outside of the normal singleplayer missions.

Operation Flashpoint (and ARMA, by extension) is the only tactical game that's gotten it right.

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>>381997494
>ARMA
>only tactical game that's gotten it right.
>implying it isnt the worst one

>>381997494
ARMA's AI is fucking garbage though.

>>381997591
It's the only one where the player, friendly AI and opfor have exactly the same constraints and abilities.

Rainbow Six AI is absurdly stupid. NPCs will either walk along a preset course or stand and shoot. They have incredible reaction times but will either kill in the first shot or fire off an entire magazine without getting a single hit. Sure, it can make the game difficult. Your team gets killed by enemies that can kill them instantly or idiotic teammates walk into enemy fire without reacting. Just because it's difficult doesn't mean the AI is "good," though.

Old games use cheap artificial difficulty to extend play time, see every retro console ever.

I consider interactive cinematic experiences less cancer than games that boasts difficulty as a feature, real difficulty is in pvp games

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Make sure to check out SWAT 3 too. The friendly AI makes Rainbow Six's and Ghost Recon's look like a joke.

>>381997494
operation flashpoint's (i played red river) AI is pretty shit and watered down, they're way too slow even on harder difficulties.

>>381997591
>>381997719
>>381997494
ARMA's AI is incosistent, just try going to the options then cranking the skill and precision all the way to 1.00 and they'll either start noscoping you with a pistol from a mile away or act like retarded canines depending on their moods

and god forbid you ever get in a close quarters fight with them, they'll either kill you with the reaction speed of a god, or simply refuse to acknowledge your presence. (this happens at any difficulty)

>>381997970
Nothing artificial about rainbow six's AI difficulty, it's just really fast and you need to adapt, eventually you'll git gud.

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>>381996768
>implying you didnt play coop'


cause coop in thoses games were the fucking best


now i want to play rainbow six coop or ghost recon coop

>>381998209
rainbow 6 was one of the few coop shooters that didn't boil down to 'everyone stand over here and shoot over there'

Raven Shield > Ghost Recon > Rogue Spear >>> Rainbow Six

GRAW and Vegas were enjoyable as well, but entirely unrelated

>>381999004
If only i could find a working torrent for raven shield

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>>381999004
wow really

thats some really good taste
>>381999079
>not buying it for 1 euro

>>381997494
>ARMA
>Enemies literally stand out in the middle of an open field and swap between standing and prone over and over
>Can't use the vast majority of buildings because their programming can't handle anything but one wall at a time
>Good AI

>>381997494

>Operation Flashpoint (and ARMA, by extension) is the only tactical game that's gotten it right.
>headshots you with 1 bullet from 300 meters away while you're behind a bush

>operation flashpoint's (i played red river)
That's a game for idiots and when people say Operation Flashpoint they mean OFP Cold War Crisis.

>>381998209

Host a game nigga

>>381999079

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>>381999772
which game nigga

>>381999829

Something tactical and that a lot of people like. Then create a new thread for it.

>>381996768
I just bought the old GR game off of Steam Sale

Any way to stop the screen from flickering or is it just fucked?

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>>381997494
>stick with the default plan as set out by the game
>team mates get gunned down in the first room or somewhere near the staircase.
>restart
>happens again only this time we were too slow to save the hostages
>fuck it grab a SPAS 12, heavy armor and flashbangs and go to down on terrorist scum.
>mission complete hostages saved.
fuck yeah

>>381999907
do you think people would like rainbow 6 lockdown

>>382000370

Might as well play Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4.

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>>382000567
>>382000370
well that got lockdown pretty fast

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>not being an oldfag who played raven shield with /v/ back in the day

>>381997591
>spotted the console baby

>>381999004
my god scripted stealth scenes in vegas 2 were cancer

>>381999235
I'm not arguing that ArmA/Flashpoint's AI is good, I'm arguing that it's fair.

Rainbow's AI is also bad, but they compensate by letting terrorists do things that the player and friendly AI can't, but this puts a huge performance burden on the player and completely undermines the planning phase that the series is lauded for.

The whole point of a tactical shooter is that you and the enemy are on equal ground and you win by playing smarter, the clancy games half-ass it by only giving you the same amount of health.

>>382000943
zootopia and oldfags were a mistake

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>>382000943
>not playing ghost recon with non-/v/ before /v/

plep

>>382003096
>Not playing Rogue Spear deathmatch and AOE on the msn game zone.

>>382000943

>memes and no actual playing whatsoever
Worst time ever.

>>382004230
so would people play it if this time if posted a r6 3 coop thread?