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it's sad that they never reused Daggerfall's mouse swipe combat, it was more interactive and satisfying than the shit we have now, especially when you enable mouselook from options and rebind the key for a standard M+KB controls.
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>>381984892
It was shit and you're a fucking faggot

TES has always been garbage kys retard
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>>381984979
Ah the casual haters who hate on the games because they get overwhelmed by the amount freedom and lack of direction, pls go play Use Your Witcher Sense 3 or something.
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Isn't this the game where the fighters guild would send you on a quest to kill a bear or something in someone's shop

And you would get there and the shop was all locked up?
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>>381984892
Are there any other games with combat like Daggerfall's?
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>>381984892
Daggerfall remaster when
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>>381989274
now
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>Tfw the first thing I did with my new tablet was downloading dosbox and buying a wireless m+kb to play Daggerfall anywhere

Comfiest game on par with Morrowind
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>>381984892
>mouse swipe combat
Is it like M&B or different?
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>>381992227
I think it's hold mouse button and swing
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>>381989274
Probably before skyfall gets released
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>>381992537
Wait, so do you mean that you swing your weapon in the direction that you swipe the mouse?

Because all of my Elder Scrolls experience amounts to two hours with skyrim before stopping because I thought the combat was boring. If the melee combat in daggerfall involves more than just clicking a button to attack or block then I might check it out.

Has nobody made a mod for the latter games to play like that? I thought skyrim was supposed to have mods out the ass.
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>>381992537
That sounds like M&B controls, the problem is in the camera, you just end up looking at anything but the enemy.
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>>381984892
Nigga you got 3 attack types and only one of them is good per weapon. That shit was crap.
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>>381993721
there are 4 attack types: vertical slash, horizontal slash, diagonal slash, and a thrust attack which all the attacks you'll ever need, all have different damage potential and hit chance.
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>>381993575
not true, if you keep you holding the the mouse button during the swing the camera won't move, however in if you release the mouse button during a swing you will rotate potentially hitting multiple enemies at once.
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Deadric pimplord
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>>381984892
Is there a fantasy RPG somewhere between Morrowind and Oblivion? I love Oblivion but it often feels too simplified and I'm too retarded for Morrowind's gameplay.
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>>381994547
Gothic II maybe.
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>>381994547
Skyrim
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>>381993575
I think M&B requires you to swing then attack, whereas Daggerfall's method is attack then swing which makes more sense
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>>381994547
>I'm too retarded for Morrowind's gameplay
How?
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>>381993575
https://elderscrolls.bethesda.net/en/daggerfall
Try it for yourself.
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>>381995008
Like this. I know the fatigue bar is empty, but it gets drained by simply moving, not even jumping. Am I supposed to press T anytime I see a rat on the road so I can kill it sooner than I destroy my dagger by missing the damn thing?
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>Daggerfall was released one (1) year before I was born
>Despite this I'm still old enough to use this website and no one can stop me
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>>381995303
>>381995303
It only drains quickly if you run and jump.
Get some enchanted items that restore fatigue. You can buy an amulet of fatigue from the mages guild in Balmora, one of the early towns.
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>>381995303
Get potions and food, or walk.
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>>381984892
Quick question.
This a good build for blind playthrough? Had to restart after getting a few hours in cuz I messed my character up a bit.
Was debating on putting the +10 into my 30 endurance or 40 agility but I went with endurance.
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>>381992227
I haven't played Daggerfall, but based on this video it seems pretty similar, except in M&B you can 'prepare' an attack.
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>>381994207
>bethesda will never have the balls to have anybody naked in their game again
Why even make a fantasy game? Fucking pussies.
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>>381984892
elder scrolls + dark messiah combat = god tier
why have they not just copied it? would make their games so much better.
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>>381995303
How hard is it not to run everywhere and keep some fatigue?
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>>381996246
That's otherwise pretty good build, but I would include security as a major or minor skill as opening chests with alteration costs too much mana to be efficient
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>>381996425
>t. Teenager who thinks tits is the biggest part of a good game
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>>381996576
I don't want it to take two hours to get to Balmora. The unleveled character speed is slow enough on its own.
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>>381996576
>>381997029
>run everyone while minding your surroundings
>hear battle music
>immediately turn off run to start energy regen, pull out weapon
>wait for enemy make himself visible, walk away from him to build up more energy
>unleash fury of attacks, burn through half the energy bar in 10 seconds
>dead enemy

It really is that easy.
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>>381997983
Everywhere*
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>>381996989
I like tits
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>>381993109
>Wait, so do you mean that you swing your weapon in the direction that you swipe the mouse?
Yes, but there's no dimension to it. If you hit you do damage, if not you don't.
It's absolutely useless, and in true Bethesda fashion instead of developing the concept they just got rid of it.
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>>381984892
Yeah, I actually noticed that myself after going back to play TES: Arena of all things. It's really sad when a game from 1994 has more satisfying combat mechanics than Skyrim which many claim to be the best RPG, let alone game of all time.
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>>381997029
You could just take the Silt Strider. That is what it's there for after all.
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>>381996246
Didn't you just pick the "Spellblade" class?
Once you get the summon longsword spell or a daedric longsword you'll be set for life.
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>>381984892
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>>381997983
woah, that sounds like a lot of fun! I never knew I was playing a micromanagement game. It's a shame they didn't add a microtransaction shop where you can buy Gold Coins to purchase in-game Fatigue Potions on the go
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>>381998662
H-HE'S FAST
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>>381998751
>WAAAAAAAAAAH WHY CAN'T I JUST MASH THE ATTACK BUTTON ON ENEMIES
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>>381984892
What is this shit? You can see the pixels kek Play Skyrim faggot
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>>381998751
Go play Skyrim then
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>>381998751
>I never knew I was playing a micromanagement game
>managing your fatigue in an RPG is considered micromanaging
The only legit complaint you have is the movement speed that is absolute bullshit designed to make the world feel bigger.
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>>381998838
>>381998916

>WAAAAAAAH WHY DOESN'T MY MENTAL GYMNASTICS MAKE ANY SENSE I KNOW I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG!!!!! MY GAME IS GOOOOOD FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's you btw :^)
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>>381998958
He's right though. You are a faggot.
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>>381998958
Not an argument.
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>>381999137
>he
you mean you, right?
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>tfw playing through Oblivion finally to play all the quests
They're good but why is the rest of the game so fucking bad Jesus Christ.
Well the music is neat too.
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>>381998751
>>381998958
Management of your inventory, skills, equipment, health, mana and fatigue has been a huge part of RPGs, the genre probably isn't for you.
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>>381999272
I've been making a list of mods I'm going to download when I reinstall Oblivion. Honestly, it's a bit scary because I will have to combine some, there's going to be a lot of time spent testing if they crash the game and I'll have to learn to use Wrye Bash for the first time.
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>>381991861
>Fag with more than 800h in Morrowind reporting

When the fuck are we going to have a remake like SS1 for Daggerfall? Man i can´t even finish the first dungeon cause the fucking controls give me aids everytime.

A shame really, it´s fun as hell.
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>>381999381
Oh yeah there's that too, for some reason Oblivion is the bigger pain in the ass to mod compared to Morrowind and Skyrim.
I had a big LO and I had to end up giving up some big mods because the crashes were too random.
I play fairly stable now but apparently some mods (or the game itself, who knows) leaks memory and after an hour or so it starts dropping frames and I have to restart.
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>>381999204
I meant what I said, and reiterate: (You) are a faggot.
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>>381996989
t. Faggot
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>>381999586

t. 15 year old
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>>381999481
enable mouselook and rebind the buttons man, that way it handles like any 1st-person game.
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>>381996246
Agility is super important, it affects hit chance. I've found that to be a bigger influence in hit chance than fatigue, yes fatigue affects it but if you have high agility it won't matter much.
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>>381999272
I can't play it because of the leveling. I just can't. Especially the main fucking quest which I've never finished because of the Oblivion parts, which are terrible on their own but the leveling completely fucks it.
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>>381985167
Fuck off, Daggerfag. Your game is literally the No Man's Sky of Elder Scrolls.
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>>381999634
Not him, but are you being intentionally retarded?
Or just trying to look mature?

Daedric cults, and a lot of involvements with them, imply sexual rituals and offerings of flesh. How fucking stupid are you? You should be ashamed.
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the only flaw in morrowind combat is the movement-bound attack mode, and the way in which each weapon has one clearly better attack mode over the others.
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>>381999663
>>381997983
>>381998487
>>381995586
Thanks, I'll try to slough through it. I heard it gets much more acceptable when you actually get good. I'm not giving up this time.
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I was finishing up Dragonborn ( yeah I know I'm several years late ) and the Miraak boss fight would not stop being bugged. Even console commands weren't working.

Thank god I decided to pirate everything Bethesda shits out, don't have to regret spending my money on such shitty quality.
How the fuck do you not bug test a MAIN QUEST?
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>>381998662
Is that some stealth archery?
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Hi I used to have a gif of a cute pixlated dark ef girl, looked.about 6 years old, posted looking up. Anyone know of it or have it?
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>>382000101
Bugged how?
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>>381999797
There's mods for that
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>>381998662
>interaction is now grab mode
kek, are there any sex mods for Daggerfall?
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>>382000101
It's hard to find something in Skyrim that isn't bugged.
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>>381999561
>Tripfag
Lol, k
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>>381999897

How the fuck is Daggerfall anything like No Man's Sky n any respect?
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>>382000136
This?
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>>382000161
Miraak wouldn't absorb the dragon souls, so he would be stuck in the ethereal state.
That AND the dumb faggot dragon would only fly around far out of bow range and never land, even if I used dragonrend on it.
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>>382000354
god bless you, you made me happy today.
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>>381999663
I figured getting a higher endurance earlier will grant me more helath in the long run if I start at level 1.
Assuming 40 agil gives me something like a -1 roll to hit wont be an issue at the start I think.
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>>381984979
Horrible, shitty, smelly bait ahoy!
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>>381998662
We need roguelikes like Daggerfall dungeons.
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Why is Daggerfall not on Steam? What's a good place to get it?
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>>382000238
You got baited so fucking hard.
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>>382000170
Not him but they come with their inconveniences too.
OOO is fine in removing the scaled enemies but it also adds plenty of unnecesary stuff. The items are okay but it also adds donut steel OC factions that stick like a sore thumb.
OblivionXP also comes with its problems, picking locks can make you the most powerful man in the world.

They're pretty modular so you can customize them but it's a massive chore to do when all you want is a leveling system that's not hot shit.
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>>382000806
Nevermind. A comment on PirateBay pointed out it's free on Bethseda's website and yep, sure is.
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>>381999636
What about the shitty graphics, i love enemy sprites and npcs, but the environment seems a little shitty desu.
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>>382000806
Bethesda's website or on-disk with Anthology
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>>381999634
I don't know what your conception of adulthood is, or whether you are socially sane or not, but people continue to like tits well beyond their teenage years.
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>>382001104
You're not a teenager for liking tits.
You're a teenager for wanting them plastered over everything you live with complete disregard for the context.
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>>381985503
Like 99% of the game is procedurally generated, weird stuff is bound to happen
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>>382000806
don't get it from the Bethesda website, the installation process is a pain in the ass, get the installer from the wiki instead.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files
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>>382000953
the graphics looks fine to me.
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>>382001409
>http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files
Thanks anon.
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How do I change the FOV in morrowind? It's giving me a headache
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>>382001531
don't forget to get the EyeOfArgonia in the utilities section for maximum view distance.
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>>382001648
download this
http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/41102/?
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>>381986989
Mount & Blade, pretty much, but minus the magic
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>>381984892
Nice to see that you're enjoying our previous products. It is however a bit out of date.

I'd recomend that you check out the recently remastered Skyrim: Special Edition! It has a sweepish system thingy from Daggerfall. It has tons of mods you can download, CHEAP!

And hey, why not check out our latest istallment in the Fallout series, Fallout 4? And buy some crates in Shelter?

Please buy
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>>382002020
leave me alone sweet little lies.
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>Try playing daggerfall again
>Quit because whenever I get to a city it takes 20 minutes to find the building I'm looking for

This is a awful, your only sense of direction in towns are markings on the shitty map system
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>>382002669
or you could ask npcs for directions?
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>>382002669
You can ask the townsfolk and they'll give you directions (north, south etc.)
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>>381993109
The game is good but by good the combat is awful.
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>>382002818
>>382002860
I am, but it's ALWAYS on the other side of town and the map zoom is so bad that I have to continue to open it again to make sure I'm still on course because there were a bunch of houses in the way that I had to go around
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>>381984892
Yes, but does Daggerfall have sex mods?
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>>381996989
But I like the concept of True Berserkers in fantasy games. I've played a roguelike called ADoM. In it I can play as a barbarian. When I set my tactics to zero defense and all assault it's called "berserk". But a True Berserker is like Conan and does not wear armor. When you strip your character of their armor, then the berserk status changes to "Blood Rage", giving you about 20x chance to hit and 10x damage, letting you overhead swing decapitate a boss dragon in one hit from a claymore.

The point is, some fantasy games have actual mechanics tied into nudity. It's not just nudity for the sake of nudity.
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>>382000136
>>382000354
>>382000446
>2 crows

That's obviously Nocturnal in mer form
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>>382003635
Or a little lady blessed by nocturnal
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>>382003158
it has naked women in the base game
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>>382003635
Nah, it's artist's original character.
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>>382001648
>>382001792

The graphics extender is the only way I know how to change the FOV, but beware. You can't alt-tab. It will reset the FOV. Fortunately the game saves and loads so quickly that instead of alt-tabbing you can just save and quit. Better just sign out of Steam Friends so you aren't annoying everyone with constant playing notifications.
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Is DaggerXL dead?
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>/v/ apparently likes Daggerfall
>but hates Skyrim
Doesn't make any sense.
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>>382004565
>/v/ apparently likes Daggerfall but hates Skyrim
Blame Todd
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>>382004565
Daggerfall has flaws but a lot of content, and it's free. Skyrim has a lot of flaws but little content, but it costs money, and Todd wants you to buy it over and over again.
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>>382004565
It makes sense.
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>>382004789
Procedurally-generated junk isn't content. The only difference between the two is that Daggerfall has more ways of customizing your character - which amounts to fuck-all, since there are less actual, non-randomized quests than Skyrim.
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>>382004984
I'm pretty sure the cities and towns in Daggerfall are not procedurally generated. The game has a lot of manually crafted locations, dungeons and named characters. In between those is just a procedurally generated world map. That's about the extent of that.
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>>382004984
Let the adults talk kid, youre ashaming yourself.
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>>382000953
>>382001512
I love Doom level graphics. I wish there was a dungeon crawl stone soup with these graphics and battle systems
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>>382002020
did I mention VR?
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>>382005428
you're totally a hardcore gamer
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>>382005428
>browses /v/
>"i'm an adult!"
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>>382005204
Aside from the specific main story exceptions, those characters are non-entities that don't even have a personality. From what I remember, 90% of the guild quests are also randomized.
Obviously, it's not like Bethesda even had a choice back then. The world is stupidly huge, so it had to be filled with character-less NPCs and dungeons. But I just don't believe that makes it okay.

>>382005428
Solid argument.
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>>382006470
>Solid argument.
Better than the junk shit procedural content, when you didnt know that only cities and dungeons were proceduraly generated, and after that they were tweaked by hand.

Yeah... nice point you got there too m8.
>>382006467
Adults never browse internet, a kid from a random website told me so.
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>>382006470
>those characters are non-entities that don't even have a personality
Ah yes, those deep Skyrim characters
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>>382004065
Yes.
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>>381984892
It's worse that they didn't reuse Daggerfall's willingness to show nudity. The Dibella priestesses in Skyrim wear big robes and hoods that cover everything but their faces. That's just not right.
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>>381993109
>Has nobody made a mod for the latter games to play like that? I thought skyrim was supposed to have mods out the ass.
There are several hardcoded things that mods can't change.
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>>382008018
>The Dibella priestesses in Skyrim wear big robes and hoods that cover everything but their faces. That's just not right.

Well, it is a stone hall in the coldest province. I doubt Dibella would have any problem with a bunch of rock hard nipples but it'd still be a bit too chilly for comfort. Goosebumps and blue lips from the cold are not fitting for the image of priests of beauty.
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>>382009341
>>382008739
*meant to reply to this
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>>382000907
Or you could just install Francescos mod to fix the level scaling and maybe add some new monsters and items without a bunch of extra changes you don't want.
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>>382001235
There's a difference between wanting tits everywhere and thinking it wouldn't be so bad to have nudity in appropriate places, like Daedric cults or Dibella temples.
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>>381986989
Alone in the dark mid 2000s reboot
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>>382002020
>I'd recomend that you check out the recently remastered Skyrim: Special Edition! It has a sweepish system thingy from Daggerfall. It has tons of mods you can download, CHEAP!
I'm fine with the original Skyrim, thanks. It has more mods, and those mods are even cheaper, which is to say they're free, like they always have been and always should be.
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>>382009341
Dibella would protect her followers from the cold.
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>>381998751
>Having to manage resources in a fucking RPG is anti-fun

Truly we are in the worst timeline
Pretty soon TES will be reduced to you just having a melee, ranged, block, and spell button (with one equip slot for each) and the only stats will be Health, Magicka, and Stamina (which refills in two seconds of not swinging).
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>>382009341
Ah, but then everyone would have to press tightly against each other for warmth, which Dibella would certainly approve of.
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>>381985167
i love daggerfall and still go back to it to this day, but the mouse combat wasnt intuitive, its bsaically wiimote combat, waggle waggle waggle pray to god.
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