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Why do people think dark souls has the best armor design

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Why do people think dark souls has the best armor design
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I've never heard anyone say this.
It looks nice. I like it. It's just not "the best"
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>>381982762
Nips interpreting western fantasy is aesthetic
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>>381982762
It's nice when you compare it with the standards of most other japanese games, which either have horrible overdesigned nonsensical garbage, or no armor at all.
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>>381982762
Faraam is GOAT
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>>381982762
Because most games have godawful armor design, so anything decent looks excellent by comparison.
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>>381982762
I'll give a lot of shit to DS 2, but god damn does it have some of best armor in Souls
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>>381982762
The outfits are mostly realistic, unlike most vidya outfits that are composed of zippers and over sized pauldrons
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>>381982816
What would you consider the best?
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It's as shit as shitty jrpg designs, I'll never get the love for dark souls armor designs. Nearly all of them look retarded, not realistic in slightest.
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>>381983701
agreed.

the only good sets they put in Dark Souls are the ones inspired by real life sets, and pretty much got put in exactly as they are irl.

Faram and elite knight sets can go burn in a dumpster fire
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>>381983018
>faraam.
>good

No armor on legs, shitty trenchcoat designed to pander to dudebro edgeguys, a helmet that looks like it belongs to a whole different set
useless belt across the chest, letaher fucking elbow guards,
Overweighty irl because full chainmail under the chest instead of an arming coat with sewn chain pads.
Useless embroidery that shows he COULD have spent more on armor, but bought useless tassels instead.

Go fuck yourself.
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>>381982762
Because helmet.
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>>381983701
have you even played the game?

>>381984012
The best armors are definitely the creative fantasy ones, like Ornstein's or Lautrec's.

You are also a retard if you think wacky armors didn't exist in real life. People like you, who have this entry level knowledge about armors yet always feel the need to shit on "fantasy looking armors" have the worst taste possible.
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>>381983701
fuck off
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>>381983564
Game of thrones has the best armor design ever if we aren't speaking strictly vidya.
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>>381983564
40k games are my personal favorite.
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>>381984441
>"muh ceremonial armor!"

Just admit your brain is tuned to the frequency of 88.9 Austimo Radio and move on. Nothing you can say will convince people with taste that those amalgamations of extraneous details are attractive to the eye.
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>>381984535
>dark souls babbies think this is the epitome of armor design
>w-woah they copied 15th century condottieri armor and added a lot of gay embroidery.... so cool!!!
lmaoing @ your life
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>>381984847
>implying the people who sperg out about historically accurate armor in fantasy games aren't the autistic ones
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>>381984847
Realism fags are more likely to have autism. There's a reason every design in fiction is so stylized, most people like them.
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>>381984931
>>381984012
>>381983701
since when did these chuckle fucks show up?
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>>381982762
Because the competition is shit so it's best by default.
Also AESTHETIC.
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modded warband
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>>381985112
>>381984968
>>381984971
>triggered dark souls babbies assblasted that their shitty game armors are worth nil
wow has more realistic armors than das LMAO
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>>381985273
At no point did I mention dark souls. You have the reading comprehension of a third grader. I defended stylized armour designs.
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The japs are better at making western armor than we are desu. Their shit looks cool as fuck. Compare that to the garbage in Dragon Age Inquisition and it's not even a contest.
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>>381984441
dude, ornsteins is pretty much an ornamental jousting set, if you looks at the teeth of the helm, you can see it follows a frogmouth design.

As for Lautrecs, it follows the pattern set by Yurt in demons souls in its design inspiration.

As for the armor itself. it is realistic, not blatant fantasy garbo like faraam.
You can tell that the designer had knowledge at least on a basic level how armor works.

Cinched at the waist, plates interfolding.

Hell, the only fantasy thing about it is the entertwined arms on the chest, and that is why it is fucking good.

Because the realism comes first, and the fantasy elements are overlayed atop that.


Let me restate.
The only good sets in dark souls.
Are the ones inspired by real life sources.
Ornsteins may as well be a jousting set with greathelm, and Lautrecs seems to derive inspiration from a mishmash of different designs from both gladiatorial sets, and more uncommon armours

the BEST armour sets are those with less or no variance from their real life source.
Such as Lapps set.

While things like smoughs and onion knights are memorable, and fantasy, I appreciate them more highly than anything put in dark souls 2.

Dark souls 1 was definitively a game with far more research put into it someven the truly fantasy sets looked like thay had some semblence of possibility.
Elite knights is still really bad though, from a protective perspective. prefer to think perhaps he has some chain underneath the surcoat...


Lastly
>wacky armor irl.
I've seen the people reposting king henry's glasses helm armor and all that rot.
You sound like the entry level retard, anon, for even bringing it up.
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>>381983105
Alva set checking in
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>>381985436
>ooga booga muh stylized armor designs
>my 12 year old brain can't comprehend someone making an implication
>abloo abloo not like my 3 year old brain could handle something but dark souls
autistic dogs like you need to be put down
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>>381985436
don't respond to weak ass bait like that man
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>>381985669
>realism comes first
uhh why? real life is boring, that's why I play video games
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>>381985669
i will continue my post by posting some armours for you all to look at.

some of which may have been inspirations for das and das3.
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>>381985803
its called grounding, and plausability.

Its far easier to get immersed in a game if its setting, design or workings seem plausable or explainable.

This is the basics of design and also, plot and immersion.

Literally, muh immersion.
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>>381982762
Because it takes designs from medieval/renaissance europe. To the point where it's 1 on 1 recreations.
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the only good set out of ds2 was the royal soldier set.

germanic low-wage mercenary as fuck.
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>>381985669
Stylized ornamental armor is better than normal armor for games. Armor, especially in games from the third person or that are action heavy, need more differentials than small differences in helm styles, armor plate positioning, or general shape. Adding stylistic stuff or in general having bizzare shapes/plate position allows for the player to be invested in the set they decide on, allows NPCs wearing those sets to feel differnt, and allow enemies to easily identified as having different properties. The only real place I can see realistic armor being useful is a first person game, but even then the differences wouldn't be too noticeable and it would still be boring for the player after a long period of time
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>>381986037
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>>381985989
Immersion will always take a backseat to fun and cool.
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>>381983701
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>>381982762
pick one, /v/
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>>381982762
Faraam is for fucking scrubs

always some shitter show dies in the first 2 seconds in a boss fight

or some retard that accidentally falls off cliffs in pvp
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>>381986302
guns ruined fun
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>>381984535
literally an irl set, dude.
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Kids these days don't acknowledge the best Souls armour set.

Shame the female variant looks so different and ugly.
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>>381984441
>Ornsteins armor couldn't have had irl inspiration nope nope.
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>>381985989
There's fucking magic, what's 'realistic' doesn't necessarily have to match up with what's realistic here. The big thing for a world is that it has to be airtight on its internal consistency. Everything has to make sense with the in-universe rules.

>>381983701
The fallen knight armor in DS3 is almost literally that armor with a cloak over it.
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>>381985989
Maybe for you. I get immersed in games that are fun. And also, I don't think most people are autistic enough to have any functional design flaws in their video game armor "break their immersion." Dark Souls armor especially looks good and functional. What about it isn't grounded or plausible to you?
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>>381983701
>>381984012
>>381985669
Look at these pussy ass faggots with their cocksucking fetish bodysuits. Only a true whore who gets spitroasted for free would wear those things.
>look at me I'm so practical
Yea, practically inhaling dicks at the rate of a black hole. Which is probably what your asshole would look like after wearing these shiny shit covered pieces of cloth only a drooling retard would call armor. Let me show you what real armor looks like. Try not to recreate Niagra falls with your cum when you see what I educate your ignorant self with.
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>>381982762
*blocks your path*
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I actually dont like souls armor that much, not even elites. Its like they are trying to hit the middle ground between practical and fantasy and it just comes out plain and mismatched. The only set that clicked with me was syans from DS2 for that swag cape and space marine look
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>>381986302
1250 or 1450 because they look the coolest
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>>381982762
what "people"?
Can you link me to a comment/tweet/blog whatever that says this?
The normie masses think skyrim and witcher have the best everything medieval fantasy-related
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>>381986550
>liking Dark Souls 2
>liking Warhammer 40k

PLEB
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>>381983701
>implying real life wasnt anime
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>people still believing that you're automatically more mature the more you insist on things being realistic
Either it looks good or it doesn't, that's the important part. Souls armour just tends to be mostly practical thanks to what it's based off of and its aesthetic, any stylised fictional armour is not going to be 100% grounded and practical and you're being a huge baby if you think anything is inherently bad because of that.
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>>381982762
I'm not going to say it has the best armor design, but I will say that I really like most of it.
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>>381986648
Excuse me, nobody would ever wear any silly decorative armour, it's historically inaccurate.
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>>381982762
If Dark Souls doesn't as a whole have the most consistently good armour design, then what game or series does?
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>>381986207
it stops being cool if it starts lacking in aknowledgable plausability.

fun is a subjective buzzword that cannot in any rightful sense be used to denote worthwhile design fue to its subjectivity.
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>>381986635
I never said I liked 2. I consider it the worse in the series. But it did do some things right
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>>381986753
Preach it.
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>muh reelism
If you're not wearing a gilded traffic cone that has a separate set of physics and wiggles around unfixed on your head while you're killing cum-slurping eldritch pseudovampires you're not playing right.
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>>381986874
No it doesn't. Plausibility is only for history sims. Fantasy rpg should have fantastic armour. Imagine if everyone thought like you did and decided a game like dmc3 should be grounded in reality. That would be ass.
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>>381986753

Armor like that was purely ornamental and never meant for battle.

Supposedly the most massive Zweihanders were like this too. Just something to hang up on your wall.
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>>381986753
Aye swimae
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>>381986478
move aside, my man.
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>>381986474
edgy
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>>381983701
IMO Dark Souls strikes a nice balance between stupid armor that would never work and hyper-realistic designs.
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>>381987051
I hope you aren't implying that there was anybody who would wear silly colourful outfits into battle while carrying impractically large swords, because that certainly never happened.

I can't remember if zweihanders were proven or not, to be honest. Last I heard it was open for debate.
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>>381986923
Bloodborne is patrician taste my frie d
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>>381986962
good thing dark souls protags are supper humans that can flap like a butterfly while wearing slabs of stone and carry weapons heavier than themsels so they have no use for practicality and can use whatever the fuck they want
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Elite Knight is the most aesthetic armor there will ever be
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>>381985989
>Its far easier to get immersed in a game if its setting, design or workings seem plausable or explainable.
>Literally, muh immersion.
Literally, become more imaginative. Chucklefucks like you always brag about dumb shit like that and then create the most boring, yawn-inducing homebrew tabletop RPG settings (that more often than serve as cheap GoT/Witchurr ripoffs), and the useless fools that do that with D&D are even worse since its inherently not suited for that. At least run 7 Seas or something, fuck shit got me heated.
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>>381982762
Nothing is supposed to be realistic in Dark Souls. Realism it’s secondary on videogames, unless it’s a simulator. They sure try more than most of RPGs, but still a fucking game.

It's a dump debate, like muh realism vs balance on weaponry.
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>It's a shitty fantasy armor
>Literally an IRL set dude
You can't win.
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>>381986473
non of it is ungrounded or unplausable.

I am merely someone akgnowledging why it is, and its because of the care they put in to studying their real life sources.

Im not for example, this retard >>381983701
here.

>>381986454
And fortunately Dark souls is very good at that, which is a big reason to why its so well loved. Even magic is done up in a very realistic way.
Hell, most of the "magical" location in dark souls 1 are based on real life places. Such as Seathes archive and cavern, and anor londo

>>381986923 actually their was a real life sect of vigilante cultists that did wear conical jelms on their heads. That helmet is firmly grounded in a real life thing.
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>>381987201
>>381987051
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>>381987260
It's pretty good.
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>>381986923
>not wearing an antenna cage that purges your BEASTLY IDIOCY and helps you contact the Great Ones
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>>381987274
>immersion having anything to do with imaginative
>aknkowledging plot holes is because you are unimaginative
>not being an idiot is because you "lack imagination"
see where I am going with this?

Also just because you are having some shit d&d experiences doesn't mean you can just take it out on this situation, where it has little to no relevance.
Sorry anon.
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>>381986450
>>381985669
I'm pretty sure the lead artist mentioned in an interview that both Ornstein and Lautrec's armor was inspired by Saint Seiya desins
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>>381986170
>implying this isn't effay as fuck
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>>381982762
Which one, /v/?
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>>381987576
I mean, it canonically served as an alien microwave and fried everyones brains at Mensis, but you do you.
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>it's an "armor thread gets spammed by muh realism fags who will repeatedly post armors from literally anything but a videogame" episode
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>>381983701
>>381984012
You're both retarded.

The Elite Knight set is clearly intended to be used by somebody travelling a lot. Hence the pouches and the choice of chainmail with fabric over the torso, the same choice any historic Knight used when actually journeying to distant places. This idea that you'd use a cuirass over such distances is absurd, it's a fucking nightmare to get off without assistance and if it becomes damaged then you can either slug around a useless piece of metal or walk around in basic clothing.
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>>381986960
Except that Dark souls isnt a fantasy rpg.

it isnt just "fantasy"
it is something far different than that.

Its not final fucking fantasy, or hyperdimenshit weebtunia, for damn sure.

What if dark souls was like either of those "fantasy" games?
would it even be dark souls?

The world building and the design is half the reason people play and like DaS and Bloodborne.

It feels right, it hits home.
There is a weight to what you do and how you do it.
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>>381986397
it isnt tho? Are you blind or what?

also what does it have to do with the reply to "ds armors are all overdesigned jrpg ones"?
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>>381987786
No it's definitely a fantasy rpg. You use weapons larger than your character and fight stuff right out of western fantasy. Miyazaki was even inspired by reading western fantasy books.
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>>381987703
20 is patrician
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>>381987620
And Saint Seiya has its inpirations as well.
What is St Seiya inspired by? where does it draw its sources from?

In the human mind, nothing is entirely without a point of inpirance.
We evolve one thing to another, but the world around us is where we begin.
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>>381987606
Then why does it take you so much time to accept, adapt to and embrace something alien as your own? Are you weirded out by games that borrow elements from historical japan with all its cardboard armor and wacky masks? How would you react to a game with aftrican tribal designs with all their retarded dick-shaped throwing weapons? Then why does a game about a total alien culture that has been built on a countless number of reincarnation cycles and
>its majick i aint gotta explain
makes you so mad out of your mind? I just fail to see where you would draw the line, because I personally cant. Humans are inherently weird, and I see nothing wrong with videogames making them slightly more weird.
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>>381987659
>killing hundreds of people in pvp
>with basic longsword and knight set with starter knight shield

Back to the tutorial motherfuckers!
Basic Knight, coming through
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>>381987717
the main issue of dissent with elite knight is that there is little evidence of chainmail under the tabard.

it seems to be missing certain aspects of its role as a protective gear.
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>>381988080
Thing is; longsword is a top tier weapon, probably top 5 for PvP

and the knight set offers decent protection, too, it's a medium to heavy armour set
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>>381987717
Unrelated, but what is the best dark souls armor set for travelling?
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>>381987803
?

I was adding to your post, dude.

not everything here has to be a fucking argument.
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>>381988080
Longsword is one of the best weapons in the game and the knight set is a really good set of armour, despite how armour in DS3 is a joke. DS3 was the only souls game where I didn't end up swapping my gear out on the first playthrough because it was so damn effective.
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>>381988195
you can see chainmail peeking out the bottom of his tabard
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>>381987706
nah, they are just kids who read their first infos about armor functionality and think people IRL only wear the most expensive 16th century full plate cavalry armors and everything else is just wacky fantasy shit.

Polish hussar armors had fucking wings on them, teutonic armors had huge as fuck horns and wings on their helmets and wear long capes, don't even talk about lot of the middle eastern or asian armors.
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>>381988071
I'm not mad.

I think you think Im a seperate poster.

My argument is FOR dark souls not against it.
I stated that Dark Souls worldbuilding and irl source material is what makes it as strong as it is.


It is the attention to that real life physicality that makes it so strong.

Also none of what you are saying has any context to this whatsoever.
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>>381988438
the question is though, is it full chainmail, or is it simply the waistlength bit similar to what silver and black knights have?

The main prroblem is not being able to fully see everything under that tabard
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>>381986391
Guns and government run armies that were cheaper to train and easier to mobilize. The end of feudalism was the coup de grace to knighthood, when nobles lost all their power and riches, it became too expensive to keep knights around.
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>>381987908
Western things like the legend of king Arthur.

Super large swords isnt exactly out of the realm of realism either.
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>>381988836
and the dragons ofcourse
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>>381987786
Bloodborne is literally dark fantasy, and Dark Souls is a fantasy JRPG. But fantasy doesn't necessarily mean whimsical worlds with happy endings and stories. No, it's just a broad term to describe something that isn't real.

Dragons, giants, deities, etc. Those are all elements of fantasy that the Souls series happens to have, which, by definition, makes it a fantasy game, or at the very least a game with fantasy elements.
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>>381988336
>>381988236
it's kind of like bloodborne, where they balnced the entirety of the weapon sets on the saw cleaver as a base for how weapons work.

In das3, the Longsword was the point of balance.

unfortunately, nopoise with rule of 2 hits kind of ruins it.
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>>381988948
I remember those fuckers.

God damn dragons, I'm glad those fuckers are extinct.
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>>381988948
What are dinosaurs.

in this sense, dragons still have a firm grounding in the real world.
Oversized lizards arent exactly unheard of.
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>>381988836
>Super large swords isnt exactly out of the realm of realism either.

zweihanders were tools for a particular purpose: attacking pikemen. They weren't general purpose weapons. They're like bazookas.
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>>381986962
Greatswords such as the montante were the evolution of the longsword. They'd largely be used similar to a polearm, but guns and the end of feudalism shit on its parade.
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>>381988997
the state of poise in 3 is ok, but it's definitely not incredible

>>381989067
and the bird people

and the living bushes

and the demons

while I agree that high fantasy is somewhat different, it's still not reality
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>>381989067
Yeah man, Dark Souls isn't a fantasy game at all. Fucking magic, pyromancy, gods and goddesses, oversized mushrooms that can speak, and demons totally don't make it a fantasy game at all!

Dude, I think you're conflating high fantasy with low fantasy. There is a difference, you know.
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>>381989139
Remember that time George Washington used the power of the Lord Soul of Death to create America?
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>>381988953
Dark Souls borrows far more from dark fantasy then I think you are giving it credit for.

Yes its a fantasy game, no, it isn't "just" a fantasy game.

it derives inspiration from so much more, and so many real life legends and history, and so much of its architecture is ACTUALLY REAL irl, that it remains rooted far more than other fantasy settings
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>>381987201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yB9CFacIlQ

The zweihander was very much a thing, and I believe it was an attempt to counter the more numerous general conscripts at the time of its development. You can probably guess which military doctrine won.
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>>381989139
Who said Dark Souls wasnt fantasy?

People merely stated that it was grounded in reality as a driving factor for making its fantasy believable.

Fuck you
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>>381989329
>Yes its a fantasy game, no, it isn't "just" a fantasy game.
I never said it was "just" a fantasy game. I was using fantasy as a broad term to describe the game's setting.

Besides, you even said:
>Except that Dark souls isnt a fantasy rpg.
Which is wrong, because it is a fantasy JRPG. And yes, I agree it's definitely more dark fantasy than high fantasy, but it's still fantasy.
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>>381989442
Evidently, this guy said Dark Souls wasn't fantasy:
>>381987786
>Except that Dark souls isnt a fantasy rpg.
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>>381989206
And even then, DS falls firmly into high fantasy with the time travel, magic kamehamehas, ghost-calling giants, various laser-shooting swords, various man-sized "ultra swords," and physics that run on some unknowable mythopoeic force and not regular real world science.
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>>381989442
>Who said Dark Souls wasn't fantasy?

>>381987786
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>>381983701
You could actually get this type of armor sets in dark souls 3. wonder why the first and second had the most shitty designs ever. ever. ever. ever.
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>>381989510
>>381989543
What is "Dark Fantasy Jrpg" for all the money, Mr. Trebek.
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>>381987717
except maille weighs much more than plate, faggot. Not to mention it was cheaper and faster to produce, so maille at the time of plate was used only for voiders. If anything they used brigadine as traveling armour.

And yea, on the other hand cavalry close helmet is such a good idea for someone traveling a lot on foots
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>>381989767
Are you brain-dead? Even if it were a "dark fantasy JRPG," it's ultimately still a fantasy game, yeah? How obtuse can you be?
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>>381989543
>>381989510
>>381989458
I think anon means Dark Souls breaks the boundaries of a traditional fantasy role playing game, desu.
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>>381989889
Then don't start your post with
>Except that Dark souls isnt a fantasy rpg.
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>>381986474
You know what I would like to see? A tank in the style of plate mail, all shiny and rounded and ornamented and shit
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>>381989889
Yeah, I got that already, but he should be more articulate and concise next time. Otherwise, he's going to have people misconstruing him due to stupid shit like
>Except that Dark souls isnt a fantasy rpg.
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>>381989889
>I think anon means Dark Souls breaks the boundaries of a traditional fantasy role playing game, desu.
In what ways? Its pretty standard dark fantasy stuff with heavy influences from greek and norse mythology.
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>>381989442
>People merely stated that it was grounded in reality as a driving factor for making its fantasy believable.
What part is grounded in reality? It's a sad high fantasy series with more fire and no elves.
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>>381989526
>mfw I hear some catholics complaining of thirst.jpg
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>>381982762
>Next for all we know op will say this is better than those designs.
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>>381989872
Because it cannot be categorized as such. I would not say Dark Souls to be even close to somthing as say, Final Fantasy, we can use that as an example.

DaS= explains that magic comes from projecting the essence of a soul, as expanded upon by Seathe the paledrake
FF=Diferent types of magic, but they are never really explained in any pf the games , besides maybe 6. If we use the worst examples, such as 13, id just be using ff as a strawman.

Dark Souls= a lot of the locations in the game cite sources of architectural inspiration from the real world, suc as the Milan Cathedral, then build them in the world in a great way.

Final fantasy= takes a lot f things from artists renditions and creates them one to one. Physics be damned. This isnt necessarily a bad thing btw, just a major point of difference.


Dark Souls:Much of every action, even by fantastical monsters has a heavy weight to it.
either by the player or the enemy, physics feels very good in this series, for the most part.

Final Fantasy= Airdashing and flitting about is the norm. I fucking love dissidia. 1000 hours in duodecim btw.
I think this aesthetic is entirely seperate.
they are each a totally different product.

Now Dark souls being fantasy?
Yes, Arthurian legend style of fantasy, dark fantasy. dont think it personally even on the same wavelenght of other jrpgs however, due to many differences in design and structure.

Fantasy is a broad term, I feel there is more to this than just fantasy.
Its a huge reason to why "Soulslike" is becoming a term too.

Having had several thousands of hours in souls, having played every ff, personally, The two are so different, its almost inconceivable for them to both be placed under the same terminology.
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>>381984306
You absolutely wrecked that kid.
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>>381990141
Personally, I see it as far more grounded.
Mainly due to physics and realistic armo conventions.

Also fuckhuge weight and responsiveness.
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>>381982762

People like how Souls does a high fantasy/unrealistic flair but keeps it dirty, rough-edged and faded.

Sets of armor and clothes in Souls are well-designed, if not "Realistic", but they have a 'realistic vibe' about them to the laymen.

I love them, personally. I want high fantasy, not 'realistic medieval simulator 2017', but I don't want 20 foot pauldrons with towers spewing lightning off my conical helmet-fortress. Souls hits a good middle-ground of what appears to be dirty, worn-edged plate and leather, while being just high-fantasy enough to make you feel fantastic/in another time, place, world.

It's got a magical aesthetic. Not sure if you're actually wanting real answers though or if it's just bait.
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>>381982762
im only here to post good looking armor
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>>381990581
it's not really that it's dirty and gritty (although that's a part of the games, but it's not really the thing with their armor designs), it's that it hits the medieval aesthetic pretty well, it doesn't fall for a billion modern fantasy cliches (like the whole wow aesthetic that infected a billion games) but the designs are relatively original while you still could imagine that some of the more fanciful armorsmiths six hundred years ago could make something similar for a rich client, especially if the intended wearer would be a 8 foot tall superhuman like smough
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>>381990762
This is probably my favorite armor set from the entire souls series.
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>>381990526
It's just weighty. Monster hunter is weighty as fuck, is that game grounded in reality?
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>>381990762
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>>381990804

Sure. We're hitting the same point, just ineloquently. It's not that anyone playing souls goes "Wow hah that plastron sure is accurate to 1550's blacksmithing techniques", it's that in fantasy-lite, people can play Souls and feel immersed in a high-fantasy setting in a more meaningful way because it isn't LOL MUH 50 FOOT SHOULDER CASTLES, and it isn't dull, 'realistic' straightforward plate mail and hauberks.

I actually really liked Dragon's Dogma's armor aesthetics, too.
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>>381990962
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>>381990452
I agree that there are vastly different types of fantasy games, and because it's a broad term, it can often be misleading to categorize Dark Souls with Final Fantasy. However, no one is arguing that these two examples are even remotely similar, nor that they should belong in the same subset of video games. They're not, and they're both different games, and I agree with you there. While it may be offensive to some people to merely classify Dark Souls as "just" a fantasy game, that's really what it is. Can I be more specific about it? Sure, it has dark fantasy aspects. But saying it's not a fantasy game, is like saying rectangles aren't squares.
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>>381991013
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>>381991069
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>>381990859
The chain poncho is fabulous as fuck.
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>>381991125
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>>381991186
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>>381990762
if you like armor you should watch kurosawas Ran

it's a really good movie too in addition to the insane costume department
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>>381982762
I think the design in the left could've been better if only they removed the spartanian features in the helmet
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>>381990526
>Mainly due to physics
I'm not gonna post a video, but I am gonna say "weapon arts."
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>>381991294
That's a barbute
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>>381982762
>Why do people think dark souls has the best armor design
They say that? When?
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>>381991251
>>381991279
Will put in in my movies I should watch list, I don't mind feudal japan/samurai movies, thanks friend.
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>>381991336
A barbute is better than that shitty spartan look
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>>381991408
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>>381991478
Why is sallet a best?
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>>381989806
nope, also a good belt makes it easy to wear for days
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>>381983701
It isn't about realistic to me. It is about looking as realistic as possible while also still being stylish. Then they also have plenty of designs that while clearly fantasy aren't retarded looking like some shit you'd see out of Oblivion's glass armor or even worst, Warhammer games.

The Souls games have the best armors of any games out there.
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>>381991462
>no nose guard
>only thing remotely "spartan" is the crest
Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Okay you absolute bunch of tremendous cockmonglers obsessed with realism

so, dark souls IS FUCKING TERRIBLE, IT FUCKING SUCKS because their armors are not realistic enough

WELL THEN, TELL ME WHAT VIDEOGAME HAS THE BEST ARMOR DESIGN

I'M WAITING
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>>381991393
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>>381991560
>or even worst, Warhammer games.
What's wrong with battlepork?
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>>381991553
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>>381991698
Mount & Blade
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>>381991626
Well remove the crest and add some nose guard?
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>>381982762
>souls
>""""""""""game""""""""""""

What the hell, just literally watch your movies on youtube. It's the same experince.
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>>381991560
>The Souls games have the best armors of any games out there.
The Witcher also has some damn good armor I sometimes wish I could have in Souls.
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>>381984441
>souls
>"played"

Good one redditor
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>>381991810
The nose guard is part of that "spartan look" that you're complaining about. My mention of its absence is a direct counter to your retarded complaint about it looking "spartan". Besides, if you're going to complain about greek looks, you might as well discard the helmet entirely.
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>>381991719
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>>381982762
Only retards claimed it and only to mook dragon age 2
Elite knight set looks like shit no one would ever wear for battle
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@381991814
Is this some metabait that's designed to be so half-assed and weird that I have to reply?
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>>381991761
>mountain blade
>literally just copied real life armors
>no "design", blatant copy

refer to your friends >>381984931 >>381986397
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>>381991907
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>>381991745
Nice cherry picking. You know what I mean. Those xbox huge space marines with their million skulls.
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>>381991998
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>>381991954
Ok. I'll give you another game: Monster Hunter.
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>>381992056
>>381991998
>>381991907
can you just fucking stop

post videogame pictures
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>>381992037
i don't really like spess muhreens either but most of the other shit from warhammer looks pretty good to me
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>>381992056
>>381992106
no
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>>381991903
I'm talking about that thing above the helmet, is that a nose guard?
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>>381992071
ALRIGHT THANKS!

no seriously, thanks for actually coming with am answer
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>>381992106
>videogame
yo nigga, it's not a compound word. just fyi.
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>>381992206
Don't be fucking dense. I already mentioned the crest.
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>>381992139
i dont have many videogame armors/concept art
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>>381992207
Ye, I actually misread your original post and thought you meant to post games with realistic armor, so initially I gave you M&B. Didn't know you wanted games with cool looking sets.

I like 4U and FU. How about (You)?
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>>381992281
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>>381992281
The gambeson is pretty underrated.
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>>381992309
>4U and FU.
The fuck are you talking about
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>>381991942
>@

Truly neo-/v/. You would enjoy reddit: the game i guess. I will never play souls series because they aren't games.
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>>381992207
Monster Hunter genuinely has great armor. I am worried they tone down the crazyness for Worlds though.
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>>381992253
What the hell is your problem? you are hyperbolic jesus

That's the only thing i thought removing would make it better looking. It's just my opinion?
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>>381992375
It's a method of not giving (You)s while still indicating who you're replying to.
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>>381992343
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>>381992309
honestly I've reached a point where all MH games feel the same to me because once you git gud in one you git gud in all of them.

Generations tried to change things by adding different combat styles, but it was so awkward that I ended up changing to the regular guild style to be able to continue playing properly
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>>381992368
4U and FU refer to Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate and Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, respectively.
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>>381992375
>I will never play souls series
look at this fucking casual
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>>381992414
Because you keep on spouting "muh spartan look" like a fucking retard.
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>>381990890
Yes.
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>>381992431
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>>381992425
Thanks.
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>>381992375
>I will never play souls series because they aren't games
What?
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>>381992481
Why would i "play" these """"""""""""games"""""""""""""" when i can just watch it on youtube for the exact same experince? These are literalyl reddit: the game
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>>381992442
Oh yeah, I definitely agree with you there. They are fundamentally the same, but I really enjoy how polished 4U is. I tried Generations, and it's OK. I got fed up with the collecting quests, so I just play 4U these days instead.

I main SnS and LS. Trying to git gud with a Lance, but it's awkward to get used to.
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>>381992530
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>>381992498
Because sparta is a shit
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>>381992565
>"play"
>"games"

Kek. Just watch it.
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>>381992616
>say shit
>get more shit
>"t-thanks for (y-you)s g-guys"
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>>381992628
>he watched gameplay videos on youtube
guffaw, what a fucking normie
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>>381992753
Not him, but yeah that is how they want it.
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>>381992753
Sweet, another one. Thanks!
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>>381992797
thanks for (You) faggot, make sure to give me more too
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>>381992758
>""""""""Gameplay"""""""""

They are movies, that is exactly where you experince them.
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>>381987620
>I'm pretty sure the lead artist mentioned in an interview that both Ornstein and Lautrec's armor was inspired by Saint Seiya desins

wait what?

Mexican saint saiya expert here, I don't see any saint seiya in ornstein and lautrec's armor
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>>381992816
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>>381991698
Dark Souls has the best armor design.

I didnt say dark souls was terrible. or that it sucked.
I was one of the people that advocated that it has good design because its grounded in realism.

Apparently people cant analyze or inspect the elements of something without somehow being an apologist for said product being bad huh?

Fucking idiot.
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Remember to Sage this thread
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>>381992894
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>>381992873
lmao, what a scrub
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>not posting the best armor
What are some games that will let me fight in the complete nude? No loincloth shit, I'm talking balls swinging.
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>Souls fags get genuiney assblasted when somebody suggests that their game doesn't have THE BEST armor designs in vidya
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Is there a place to buy some knight helmets? I want to buy one for decoration to headbutt my roomate with
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>>381992037
>cherrypicking
This is literally the aesthetic of the main human faction and most other human factions are similar. Warhammer design is great because it juxtaposes the (somewhat) realistic designs of the basic human troops against the fantastical xbox hueg pauldrons and over the top designs of the magical elite units like battle priests and chaos warriors.

Warhammer 40k is a bit different and I agree space marines look retarded.
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>>381992753
So fucking what dude? Like why do you care? This kind of shit happens daily on this site. I didn't care if he was fishing for you's or not I just felt like answering that post with my honest opinion.
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Some of you frenchies are all right. Don't come to Agincourt tomorrow.
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>>381992962
reddit. Just go back and upvote you """""""game"""""""""
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>>381992281
Ill help
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>>381993058
>Warhammer 40k is a bit different and I agree space marines look retarded.

I am unfamiliar with Warhammer for the most part and I meant 40k here since that is usually what I see posted on /v/.
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>>381993005
>games
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>>381993129
Oh my mistake, its just that the thread is mostly about fantasy stuff so I assumed.
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>>381992872
Thanks! I was first so it's mine!
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I'm really tempted to get one
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>>381985175
Why is the sword arm the one thats always uncovered?
wouldnt it make sense to cover that arm and have the shield arm uncovered because theres a shield there to proctect your arm anyway?
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>>381987703
14
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>>381993330
Spend the $60 on cat/dog food, depending on which one you own.
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>>381993374
because it needs more mobility than the shield arm.

The shield arm has more armor because the shield alone only absorbs so much impact.
The force going into the shield is only dispersed by so much, so a gauntlet further disperses the force of blows.

Furthermore a larger pauldron on the shield arm catches the blows the shield cannot, or the strikes that slip off the shield itself.

the sword arm is fast and mobile, usually the guard of your sword is protection enough for the striking arm.

Still, most knights wore both gauntlets, not one metal one leather.
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>>381993374
because it allows your arm to move freely. the unarmed one usually is for the shield.
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>>381993564
Explain.
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>>381992648
>jousting helmet
>can't look around without moving your whole body because it's fixed
>somehow a concept artist made it a helmet for an actual war armor
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>>381993556
I don't have a dog or cat. I'm even more tempted to get it now
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>>381993689
you actually cannot move your head in dark souls 3 while wearing Lapps Jousting set.
your whole body moves very stiffly as well.

its great.
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>>381993697
>visored barbute
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>>381993807
So why does it exist in the first place? To be annoying?
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>>381993920
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>>381993920
Firstly most protective set in the game compared to its weight cost, hands down,

Secondly, Looks great. Funny as fuck to run someone down with a jousting lance while using the Lapp Set.

The question you need to ask yourself is "why not"

well, why not anon?
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What do you think of this guy, /v/? Does he have enough armor?
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>>381994164
for a gladiatorin roman times? yeah, probably.
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>>381994164
No problem. Everything’s fine.
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>>381982762
WAR's armors shit all over souls ones
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these threads are autistic as fuck without fail

always hating on anything with a modicum of flair and praising the most boring >muh realism armor
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>>381982762
For the most part a lot of armor sets look practical, and the variety is really good, light armors heavy armors robes and other shit gives rise to fashion souls which is fun in itself

Also it looks like a lot of thought went into the armor designs to be realistic and when their are crazy whacky sets (like smoughs) it still looks consistent and cool
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>>381994480
post something with flair
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>>381993920
Walking around with a stiff head is fun as fuck, makes most gestures look amusing.
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>>381986391
>you will never live in a world where guns don't exist, and being strong actually means that a toddler can't kill you easily
Feels bad, man.
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>>381994450
Who the flying fuck abbreviates warhammer as WAR, you are retarded just for using that.
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>>381994854
Power armour soon.
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>>381994854
>you will never live in a world where guns do exist but the strength and speed of a human being is essentially limitless with enough training and talent so having an ak-47 means nothing when the legendary hero of your nation wears 2 ton ceramic plate and can suplex a tank at hypersonic velocities
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http://in.ign.com/dark-souls-ps3/57667/feature/the-real-dark-souls-starts-here-13-real-life-inspirations-fo

found this interesting.
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>>381988712
This is one of the most autistic things I've read in a while.
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>>381986753
Aye swimae lets make a trade
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drakeblood > elite knight > fluted > the rest

don't bother disagreeing
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>>381988438
That Chainmail is part of the leggings though, not the chest, as unequipping the leggings removes the chanmail.
The chest offers little protection, I think.
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>>381995432
how about Basic Knight?
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>>381989329
is that the cathedrel of the deep ?
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>>381997087
>filename
also, anor londo was based off it.
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>>381982762
Because most of them were 13 when they played it for the first time.
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posting
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This is the most autistic thread I've seen in long time, I'm impressed /v/
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>>381986474
>i'm a coward who has to hide in a metal box
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>>381992037
You said warhammer. If you meant 40k, say 40k you god damn retard newfag.
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I wanna fuck this armor
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>>381997897
what if we took away their metal boxes?
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>>381996025
I like the DaS1/2 basic knight AKA DaS3 nameless knigh set more
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>>381982762
Because its believeabel and not realistic.

because it captures western armor design in ways western devs never do because to westerners, western armors look "generic" so they attempt to spice em up without regards to the actual designs.

When you ask a westerner to draw knights plate, hes gonna draw something boring.
Not because hes incapeable, but because he is Symbol drawing.

We have Symbols of Knights plate, we dont look at their actual design.

likewise, all Samurai armor designs from Japanese RPGs are shit.
Westerners do em better.

Other than this, Dark Souls has understood that "realistic" deostn equal better than fantasy. They have understood that "believeable" is a good goal to go for at the same time.
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>>381983701

If there's one thing War of the Roses got right, it was armour.
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