What does /v/ think of the Tales series?

>>381958665
zesteria is comfy as fuck for a generic rpg. and the anime was a nce thing too

havent played berseria,

xillia sucked ass

>>381958665
meaty oaker as fuck, and super generic

>>381958665
Derivative but at least it never became a shadow of its former self. Consistently good.

Literally the Kirby of JRPGs

>>381959878
dont even bother with berseria, its ass

Symphonia and Xillia 2 are great. Apparently that's all I know.

>>381958665
Only slightly better than the mediocre weeb shit Japan shits out on a regular basis

>>381958665
Phantasia and Vesperia are the best, newer ones are hot garbage.

>>381960165

I heard Berseria was the second best in the series behind Vesperia.

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Abyss was the best one

>>381959878
Zestiria was the fucking worst.

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>>381960185
This pretty much. It has the potential to be a more amazing series, but instead of evolving it gets worse with each title. That said, I did like Berseria though.

>>381960404
The combat is hot garbage. Apparently the story gets good after 40 hours or so, I wouldn't know because I dropped it at 39.
Not him btw. Never played Vespy.

>>381958665
>let´s defeat the evil with the power of love and friendship
every Tales game ever

>>381958665
Tales is a fucking mess. There are games everyone hates, everyone likes, niche groups like, niche groups hate, you will like but everyone hate, you will hate and everyone likes.

Their is literally not legit way to tell if you will like a tales game unless you try it.

Most of them are a 6/10, just about passable experience and they seem to aim for that specifically.
I don't want to spend 40 hours on mediocrity

>>381958665
Pretty much the definition of B-tier generic jrpgs

>>381960696
So it's the Sonic of JRPGs?

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>>381960696
this.

Except sequels. Any tales game with a 2 is garbage..

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>Tfw you stayed up for Tales festival 3 days straight and they announced nothing

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>>381960878
>Xillia > X2

When did the whole Tales hate start? It was always a comfy series to discuss besides the very fanbase fighting itself, but now we have a lot more shitposts from people who just straight out hate the franchise. Ia it because of the Zestiria shitfest?

>>381961046
From Xillia it was getting iffy with how unfinished it is, but it wasn't a bad game. Xillia 2 was mostly reused assets arguing but most liked the story and gameplay. Threads were still fine then. Zestiria was the final nail in the coffin.

Just finished the Tales of Symphonia collection back-to-back on PS3.
Combat was definitely better in the first one.
Dawn of the New World is best played right after Symphonia...I treated it like a really long epilogue.

>>381961046
When you started browsing /v/

Pre-Vesperia: Good series with some amazing stand-outs.

Post-Graces PS3: Shit series. The one thing Tales had always done right, the combat, was fucked with and left to die.

The best ones are 2d

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>>381960878
>Any tales game with a 2 is garbage

out

>>381961308
Dawn of the New World is best buried in a hole.
Nah it had some solid parts, it just felt like the story was forced into Symphonia's universe. Would've been better as a standalone with more originality

>>381961013

Why, anon? Why would you endure such torment?

looks like 99% of other jrpgs

>>381958665
symphonia does not hold up unless you're a nostalgia fag.

Tales of the Tempest R when?

>>381958665
FIGHT ME BOYS

>Tales of symphonia is the only game you need to play, as all the others are the same shit.

I'm playing this with friends literally right now. We're on Xillia 2. I wouldn't play this series alone but making fun of it with them is fun

>>381960628
How about berseria?

>>381961854
Combat is button mashy, even Eternia had better combat, but it does hold up. Game doesn't feel as barren as modern Tales even if they're technically better games for having good combat.

It's one of the last JRPGs to feel oldschool and full of content instead of hundreds of fetch quests that are too common now.

>>381961854
Maybe I am a nostalgia fag but outside of the combat I still find it does everything else much better than most of the other games.

Kinda overrated games
None of them deserves a score higher than 7.5
How it became such a popular franchise is beyond me

>>381962058
>Baba sacked over the Alisha fiasco
never
we'll never see the conclusion of that triverse stuff

>>381962221
Beseria is still the same but the evil is sealed not defeated

>>381962867
They have pretty high production values, come out once every two years, and fill a niche that nobody else even tries to (seriously, what else is like a Tales game? Eternal Sonata is all I can think of.)

>>381962867
It became into 3D and weebshit, Phantasia PSP, Destiny PS2 and Eternia remakes and ports never ever

Series was alright until current gen. Playing through hearts R and its definitely one of the better in the series.

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Reminder that Velvet is best protagonist and all around waifu.

>>381963745
She looks like a fucking slut and her game is shit

>>381963745
How can she be best waifu when she dresses like a harlot?

>>381963745
Well her game was really good actually, at least compared to most of Tales games that came before

>>381963745
If there's one thing I did like, I'm kinda glad they did let her have her revenge at the end, even if the circumstances were completely different at that point.

>>381963429
The party in Hearts R really felt like a family to me. I haven't gotten that feeling from any other tales of game, even Graces

>>381963745
They fucked up by making her playstyle so braindead.

>>381963745

I like big tits and fan service but this outfit is ridiculous. It looks like she got caught in an explosion and then never changed her clothes.

>>381963745
i will probably get her game when its a bit cheaper but what the fuck is with the costumes, they are really expensive.

>>381962189
Nope. For the story, the best one is Phantasia, doubtlessly.

For the combat, it would be Tales of Destiny PS2.

Symphonia is skippable, despite its popularity. The combat is godawful and doesn't hold well.

All the twists are pretty predictable, and Mythos' backstory would lend more pathos if his past was explored extensively. Instead, we only get some flashbacks, and are told he was hero.

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>>381964078
Clearly you have yet to witness Magilou's bookskirt.

>>381958665

I like it for the most part, but the games really started to lose their luster after Vesperia.

>Vesperia baby

No. It was the 7th or 8th Tales game I played. Berseria was unexpectedly good though. The level design is still shit, but I don't expect to see good level design in Tales ever again.

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>>381961013
>tfw Talesfes made me eat my own foot
>nothing was announced at E3
What a fucking waste.

Reminder that Abyss, Vesperia and Berseria are the only ones worth playing. Symphonia aged like milk and the translation for Hearts R is so garbage it actively ruins the game.

>>381964261
Was Graces the last time they tried to do puzzles in dungeons? I'm really getting sick of the 'tunnel with a branch maybe' map design

As braindead as punching rocks was in Xillia's second dungeon, at least you had to think about where the tunnel would go

>>381964203
>Phantasia
>best anything
I know it was the first, but it wasn't that great. Abyss a best.

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I played the 2D games and decided they were shit so I'll just make a ranking for the 3D games.

Vesperia > Hearts R > Abyss > Berseria > Innocence R > Xillia 2 > Graces > Xillia > Legendia > Zestiria > Symphonia

>>381964261
I actually played Vesperia on PS3 shortly after I beat Graces, the two Xillias, Symphonia, Abyss and Phantasia. I'm surprised how much content the game had in general and just how much shit there was to see, even if it's just simple little shit like a cutscene that's completely out of the way.

It's too bad they'll never quite put the same amount of effort into a game like that ever again.

>>381964559
Underage.

>DragonBall FighterZ

When's Tales of Fighters made by ArcSys?

>>381964760

>It's too bad they'll never quite put the same amount of effort into a game like that ever again.

I don't have a source, so take this with a pinch of salt, but I've heard before that the Tales team said that Vesperia was fucking exhausting and they never want to do that much work again.

>>381963745
Yuri was a better protag and Beseria has better Waifus.

So, I'm a huge RPG fan, and always heard people raving about the Tales games. I got Tales of the Abyss, and played it for about 20 hours until I dropped it. Honestly, I kinda hated it.

So, what's the general thoughts of the fans on that game? Did I not play far enough to enjoy it? Would I like other games in the series? Or are these games just not for me?

>>381965092
Estelle and Judith were more fun that Eleanor and Magilou were.

>>381965186
You play games for the combat and some cool characters. If you're expecting amazing stories and music it's not for you.

There are tons of different battle systems by now so maybe you could give another game a shot.

>>381964448
>Abyssfags
lol

>>381965041
I can definitely believe it from how much I played out of it, especially with the PS3 version where they added a fuckload of shit to an already large game.

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>>381958665
I thoroughly enjoy the series, with Legendia being my favourite. However, I wasn't really impressed with Xillia 2, Zestiria or Berseria despite beating each one. I really wish they would bring the battle system back to its roots. I honestly miss the typical 3-5 hits and then being able to use special attacks in order.

ok games to play in between releases of big jRPGs

>>381965186
What in particular did you not like. The characters are supposed to be right cunts in the first two acts, combat develops over the course of the game but your arte pool is low in the beginning so you aren't feeling what it has to offer yet. The story gets an actual central thrust and stops being a loose collection of random things Luke did one month after the end of the first act too.

>>381965186
It's THE most polarizing game in the series without a doubt.

It's a love it or hate it game. Some loved that the characters weren't all buddy buddy like in most Tales gamees and other hated that most of the characters (Luke in particular) were dicks and cunts.

I fell in the latter camp, but I still finished it and I appreciated what they were trying to do.

>>381965186
The series doesn't innovate enough and likes to reuse the same cliches.

>>381965415

>Played Vesperia for PS3 years ago using Tales wiki to figure out what artes are what
>Have known Japanese for four years
>Still haven't played it

I irritate myself, I really need to play it again now that I can actually understand what's going on in the new scenes.

>>381965186
Depends on what you hate. Abyss is kinda on the side where the story starts slow but gets really good if you like a different take on a party that don't necessarily like each other and a decent lore to the world. It's also one of the games where you either hate or love it because of how it executes its story.

>>381958665
dead franchise
zestiria killed this series
berseria couldn't save it
no one can

I personally love the Tales of series. Tales of Symphonia was what really got me into JRPGs in the first place. Hell, I went back and played the other 3 games before it and enjoyed them even though the random encounters nearly drove me nuts.

>>381965516
I think they are getting too cheeky about innovating the battle system. Graces added that monster race affinity system that involved a lot of memorizing or pausing and that stayed through Zestiria and Berseria.
Does anyone think that thing is actually fun? Anyone actually like going "oh shit this foe is amorphous/bug/stone so I need to combo this that and the other arte"?
X2 had that overblown elemental damage system that only worked in Ludgers favor, and I have roughly the same feeling about that one.

They need to do a full, back to the roots Tales with the old style DnD inspiration that Phantasia had.

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>>381965516
Oh, I forgot to mention that Hearts R was probably the best Tales game (since it felt like the older titles) released in the past few years. It's a shame it had to be stuck on the Vita since most people probably haven't played it.

>>381965581
>>381965581
I fucking hated pretty much every character except for Guy and the Luke clone(forgot his name). The combat felt more like a beat 'em up than an RPG. It was really boring when the game just piled side objectives on top of each other, leading to me feeling like a central plot didn't even exist. And I fucking hated that one or more conversations would pop up between the characters after I did literally anything. But from what you said, most of that irons out as you go on?

>>381965631
What's worse is that the cliches it recycles are anime/JRPG cliches in general and it prides itself on them

>>381965516

Haha. Hello, Legendiafag. I hope you're doing well. Also, the 3-5 hits and being able to follow up with a special attack isn't really what I'd call it the roots of the series' battle system, that didn't become a thing until Symphonia. Tales has always had vastly different battles systems in general, though Team Symphonia's always felt like more refined versions of their last system.

>>381966212
>more beat em up than RPG
>Didn't like skits

Guess the franchise juat isn't for you

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>>381966027
I totally agree with you, anon. I find it annoying more than anything. It doesn't add anything except to cause delay in fighting I feel anyway, especially when enemies need to be hit with their certain weakness or then they won't be staggered.

>>381966307
Hey! I'm doing well and I hope you are too. Also, I'm positive Eternia (Destiny too albeit not as fluid) had that concept and that's hitting the PS1 era.

>>381958665
For such a long running and generally decent series, why is there only ONE great OP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAfhSugeQCw

I'll grant that Berseria's and Zestiria's are passable, but everything else is actually just shit.

>>381966027
Idk, I'd say the only Tales of game that has aged pretty badly was the original Phantasia.

That being said, I do think they need to go back to the standard basic attacks with the arte followup.

That being said, I am enjoying Berseria. The combat there has a much faster flow to it than Zestiria

I played Symphonia and DotNW back-to-back recently, I'm making my way through Vesperia now. Pretty solid series, I'll play Abyss next.

Vesperia was then last good game in the series due to the devs ruining the combat in the games after it. I dropped Zestria 5 or so hours in for that reason.

>>381966570
You probably wouldn't even know it, but Tales of the Tempest has a killer OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DXKNQzBmU

>>381966561

>Also, I'm positive Eternia (Destiny too albeit not as fluid) had that concept and that's hitting the PS1 era.

You may be right about that, I haven't played Eternia in years, so I don't quite remember. I don't think Destiny 2 did, but all I remember doing in the later half of that game is guarding so the mages could nuke everything.

>>381966212
Honestly, you dropped the game right before every single character went through major development.

You also probably dropped it just before unlocking the good AD Skills.

Not that it's really in the game's favour, but you played through all the crap and dropped it right before getting to the good part - that's why you thought it was awful.

>>381965516
>Legendia being my favourite
My nigga

>>381966212
If I had to guess, you're probably just after the reveal that Luke is a clone right?

If that's the case, then you're at the point where the game loves dumping more shit to you as you uncover what the fuck is actually going on with not much exploring allowed. It does get better towards the middle of second act just after the party gets together again. That said, if you can't stand skits or the combat, I don't think you're going to enjoy the rest of the series anyway.

>>381966493
I mean, I like character interaction as much as the next guy, but not THAT often. And it didn't help that I despised 90% of the cast. Ah well. Thanks for your time anyway.

>>381966212
If you look at Abyss as the story of six insufferable cunts pulled together by fate it works a lot better. If you actually like Asch I can tell you are a no-bullshit kinda guy and the cast in TotA is a bunch of liars, but they generally get better as things progress.
I always play tales games on hard mode for a first playthrough because I find the normal mode takes away any kind of urgency to resource management and other RPG 'feeling' qualities.
The first act is an extended (and I mean extended) prologue that sets up the political climate, the major players, and the stakes. You don't get a villain until act 2. Remember the name Akzeriuth, that is when the actual thrust of the story starts.

>>381966763
I was mostly referring to the main series and not the spin-offs (haven't bothered with their OP's), but you're right, that's pretty decent.

>>381966570
>the song was written specifically to outline the plot of TotA
>the composers remix the shit out of that song, using it for just about every dramatic moment between Luke and Asch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjeV4QglIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SHM-7qMiDs
It was definitely the best utilized opening theme.

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>>381966743
You'd probably enjoy Hearts R then. It has a Vesperia feel to it.

>>381966792
Magic was so insane in the earlier entries. I kind of miss that. Now it seems as if Magic is in the back burner and they don't really have nice effects anymore.

>>381966825
glad to see another Legendia fan.

>>381967108
Fair enough. I wish they would have worked a little more on Tempest (I actually enjoyed it) though I'll still hold out for Tempest R.

>>381966792
>I don't think Destiny 2 did, but all I remember doing in the later half of that game is guarding so the mages could nuke everything.
Not him, but that was basically Destiny 2's combat. Attacking physically was hot garbage compared to how good magic artes were.

>>381966878
>I always play tales games on hard mode for a first playthrough

This is generally how we're meant to play them, except for Abyss's second boss. Jesus fucking CHRIST did they fuck the Hard-Mode stats on that thing. If you DON'T level up, you're doing 1-2 damage per hit on 3 enemies that have 10K+ health. If you DO grind it up, you'll be overleveled for the next 3 areas and 2 bosses.

>>381958665
I like it

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>>381966841
I dropped it at the winter town with the casino. Once I had gotten done with a wild goose chase, and sailed to my actual objective, only for my ship to break down, forcing me to dock in the nearby port, and the people there only being willing to help me if I did some shit for them first, I was just fed up.

>>381960052
>Literally the Kirby of JRPGs
That's true on a number of levels in addition to those that you mentioned

>>381967238
With Hearts R being on the Vita I probably never get to playing it. I like Tales of games but I'm not buying a system I never planned on owning just to play one I might like.

>>381967431
>dropped it at the winter town with the casino. Once I had gotten done with a wild goose chase, and sailed to my actual objective, only for my ship to break down, forcing me to dock in the nearby port, and the people there only being willing to help me if I did some shit for them first, I was just fed up.

I mean, I don't blame you for getting fed up, but one fixed boat and an event later, and there's some major character development and plot revelations.

It just seems such a waste to trudge so far through shit and then decide you don't want the gold a few more steps in front of you.

>>381967238
Magic might not be as flashy anymore, but Laphicet is an insane nuke at high levels. Sidestep in, fast cast blessed drops for 4x huge damage on anything larger than a horse, shoot off burst soul and do it three more times progressively faster
He was probably my favorite character to play as in Berseria

Degraded in quality after Rebirth, Gained quality with Vesperia, anime rpg localization bait currently

I think is a mixed bag. They rely too much on clichés and tropes, but the character interactions are well developed most of the time, except in Zeristeria. The combat system is good most of time.
Plenty of the games never were localized and some of them don't even have fans translations.
>tfw Rebirth remake never ever

It's a pretty good series. It's never really been innovative in terms of gameplay or story, but it's generally really solidly designed. The Kirby analogy is pretty apt.

Compared to it's sister series, Star-Ocean, it never reaches QUITE as high as Star-Ocean gameplay wise, but it also never shits the bed as much as some of SO's games do.

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>>381967706
You could probably find a cheap Vita TV. I'm positive you can find at least a couple more games you are interested in.

>>381967864
Yeah I actually really liked Laphicet's moveset. Though it still irked me that most magic looked abysmal.

>>381967978
>except in Zestiria
I even like Zestiria and that couldn't be more right
I Edna has less of a reason to be in the game than fucking Rokuro, and his given reason is 'I owe you one'
There was an insane information dump for who Dezel is immediately before he dies, Zavied's character is explained in the prequel and Lailah has an oath that stops her from contributing as a character

I can't believe the anime managed to do it all again but worse

>>381968107
Walmart had Vita TV's on for $40 a couple years back and I got Hearts and P4Dancing, and I was satisfied enough with those to think it was a good purchase

>>381958665
Vesperia is easily the best

Xillia 1 is good

Xillia 2 is the biggest turd in the series despite what huge autists too slow to play dmc will say

Graces is fun but holy shit the characters and story are god awful

Symphonia is overrated

>>381958665
they're fine but they're so formulaic and derivative its painful

theres a checklist for this series at this point
>Main villain or antagonistic force is a vague political entity
>There's ancient lost technology or magic that's the driving force of some of the events
>childhood friend party member
>Loli party member with some sort of large stuffed animal or toy they control
>A party member betrays you

>>381968271
>Symphonia is overrated

Symphonia's battle system is still the pinnacle of the series, at least if you had friends to play it with.

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>>381968262
I remember when they were getting rid of them for that cheap. I was thinking about picking up a second one, but for whatever reason never did. That said, I honestly think the Vita TV was truly underrated. It was a really nice system that just didn't click with consumers.

Loved Symphonia, liked Abyss and really liked Vesperia.

Playing Berseria now and it's okay. Combat isn't excellent early on before you get the better artes but it's growing on me.

>>381958665
They should have stuck to improving Symphonia style combat, and remove free movement. Also make more 2D titles.

bought berseria just now. Never played a tales game before. what am I in for?

>>381968791
before I answer you, tell me why birds fly

>>381967773
>It just seems such a waste to trudge so far through shit and then decide you don't want the gold a few more steps in front of you

I mean, I agree. I just didn't know there was any gold at all. That's why I'm asking about it. And who knows, maybe I'll pick it back up. I mean, if it really does get better like people are saying, it's probably worth a shot.

>>381968483
I wouldn't say pinnacle. And this is coming from a Syphoniafag.

>>381968542
I definitely like the combat in Berseria but the controls are what through me off early on, especially since the touch pad was used to bring up the menu as opposed to X. Having all of the face buttons for your artes after playing Zestiria took some getting used to since that game had more traditional controls.

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>>381968738
This anon honestly gets it.

>>381968791
If you've never played a Tales game before you'll most likely enjoy it a lot.

>>381968876
and this.

>>381968975
I meant to say triangle.

>>381958665
Tales is the hardest case of "played one, played them all" I can think of in RPGs

I've played phantasia, destiny, symphonia and abyss. I can't stomach another one, tried but can't. Too much of the same.

ZACK! FUCK OOOOFFF!!!!

>>381968975
Playing on the PC with an ecksbawks controller so I haven't had this issue. I just looked up a few combo guides and it's been really helpful.

>>381969108
Play Star Ocean.

Same original developers as Phantasia, except they decided to actually do stuff differently and innovate.

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Best Girl.

>>381969254
I really have to do this, Phantasia's the one Tales game I can't ever get tired. It's really fun to replay it

>>381967431
You're not really required to help anyone in that town if I recall, all that really happens in that town worth noting is just plot and character background with one of the characters. Also, with the sidequests, they progress more slowly as to follow world events at the time.

>>381968928
You should have played the game with the jap dub. Having the skits with voices is much more enjoyable.

>>381969254
What, so the guys who created Tales never went back to it?

Makes sense why the series degradated so much

>>381964559
>2D games
>shit
>"Abyss >"

drink bleach

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>>381969254
Of course, it also involved flying too close to the sun and crashing harder than imaginable

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>>381969467
No need to be upsetti spaghetti that the older games were worse and didn't have the pure fun that was Abyss' combat system.

>>381969460
If I remember the history right, 'wolf team' made Phantasia and the majority of them went over to Tri-Ace to make Star Ocean. Namco made a Tales team that continued the games Destiny PS1 and onward.

So unless the major drop in quality was between Phantasia and Destiny, it isn't as clear cut as that.

>>381969581
yeah i'd take free running in circles and excruciatingly specific special attack requirements over Destiny R's air combat any day

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I just gotta ask how in the hell did the tales team make combat so good in Xillia 2?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYl2nMNcKe0

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>>381969617
At one point they had two separate Teams working on Tales games I believe, and then a third just for Legendia which is why it's so different. However, it's all one team now working on Tales games.

Loved it all until Xillia came. Legendia wasn't that great, but then they made a comeback with Abyss. Then Vesperia which was my favorite.
The Vita games were pretty good. I never played the original Hearts or Innocence, so was pretty happy that they remade them.

Xillia I didn't like so much, but it was acceptable. Xillia 2 made up for Xillia, and the only thing I hated was the forced characters during some story missions.
Zestiria was so bad that I dropped the series altogether. Hated everything from the characters, story, and battle system.

Waiting for Berseria to have a massive price drop to try it out. I can wait.

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>>381959878
You got that backwards you nigger

>>381958665
Which Tales game on Steam should I go for during the current sale? If none, are the Trails games worthwhile instead?

>>381969807
They were working on an engine they were familiar with, with 90% re-used assets
They had plenty of time to polish everything up just right
Same thing for Zestiria and Berseria.

>>381969617
Destiny was good, but it didn't have the heart put into it that Phantasia had. Phantasia makes me feel really good just playing it. It's very distinct from all the other Tales games and I've always felt so.

After Destiny though I feel it went downhill.

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>>381969981
They just need to reuse this battle system.
Especially if they keep making characters vergil tier.

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>story and characters peaked with Symphonia
>gameplay peaked with Vesperia

>>381969842
The OG Innocence game was pretty bad. I pretty much dropped it after I got to the volcano town.

Everyone gives Zesty and Berseria shit for their dungon maps, but I will gladly take those over any of Innocence's later dungeons. At least Zesty/Bersy have a fucking map.

>>381970370
You think? I personally found Symphonia's party the most boring group of people in the series.

>>381959878
I can't stand the combat in zesteria

Where are my normal ass combos that don't cost SP or whatever? Why does everything feel so sluggish? God dammit

>>381970525
I don't know how I made it up to the final dungeon back in the day

>>381958665
I love Destiny and somewhat enjoy Phantasia, couldn't care less for the 3D games, my friend has Vesperia and I played it with him for a while, the combat just does not work well in 3D.

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There's a Tales convention called Radiant Northwest coming up near me (WA state) and I'm thinking of going.

Will any /v/irgins be there?

>>381970790
I could really do with them coming up with something more elegant than "hold guard for three seconds until you flash red" as a way to get bosses to stagger
Namco I get that two people with half a brain could infinite combo most bosses to death if you didn't put in a safeguard, but the old safeguards were way goddamned better
Bosses entering overlimit when you are pounding on them incentivizes playing keep away or going into your own overlimit and throwing out a mystic arte to wait out their overlimit
This iron stance shit is just slow
Bring back triggerable overlimit

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So are we still hoping to see a Tales announcement at TGS? When is it this year?

>>381959878
zesteria is complete shit
berseria was ok but you get tired of it at the end
xillia was the best of the 3

you got everything wrong

>>381960628
should've been "let's beat the crap of the boss 4vs1 without letting him land a single attack"

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>>381971080
Never head of this what does it consist of?

>>381971129
Fucking THIS. I hate Iron stance so god damn much.

>>381971169
If they were going to say anything this year, I wonder why they wouldn't do it at Tales Festival.
Maybe since Baba is gone the new producer wants his first Tales to make a major splash and they are going to go beyond a fluffed Xillia engine

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>>381971495
Yeah I remember staying up all night for absolutely nothing thinking they would announce something at the very least.

That does make sense, but I hope they at least throw us a teaser or something at TGS.

>>381966570
really wish Bump of Chicken do another Tales op, this one always gives me goosebumps when i hear it.

>>381958665
I think I need an official announcement of a Xillia 3 starring Elle, or a sequel to Berseria set after Zestiria.

>>381971835
Please lets get away from the Xillia and Zestiria universes.

>>381966607
maybe they could just modify the controls of berseria, instead of four buttons, make it three, one for standard attacks that raise tp, a base arte button and arcane/master arte button. too used to square as guard but left trigger works fine in berseria so they could add another function for that button.

>>381971989
I felt like both games were 2 parts of 3 part stories.

I would like to feel like I got a proper ending to them.

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>>381971454
Not entirely sure.
At the very least there will be a cosplay contest and Sorey's VA will be there.

https://www.radiantnorthwest.com/

>>381972129
Maybe so, but aside from Xillia (and I'm stretching) they were all mediocre games with Zestiria being pretty awful.

>>381972129
Zestiria/Berseria are definitely part of a trilogy, they set that up in the EX dungeon, but who knows if Namco wants to keep the universe around any longer.
Don't know so much about Xillia though, X2 felt kind of conclusive. Unless the third one is older Elle finding a way to positively fuck over causality to undo the damage X2 did, I don't know what the plot could be.

>>381972559
I adored Xillia 2 and Berseria, so I'm more than happy to get a third game.

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>>381972504
Hm... seems pretty basic. Regardless it might be a good time for the people that can go.

>>381958665
I liked them before Xillia
Any games after are mediocre as fuck

>>381964559
Absolutely shit opinion, desu

>>381971169
>>381971169
Legendia bro, I remember you from the Tales of Festival thread. I'm sorry they didn't announce a PS4 remake for it, I'd buy the fuck out of it too.

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>>381973278
Hey man, I remember you as well! That's okay I can continue waiting. It'll probably all be for nothing in the end, but I have to keep the hope burning. Thanks again anon!