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Trunks was confirmed, great!

Post dream teams:

Piccolo
Cell
Kid Buu
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>>381944915
Mystic Gohan
Burter
Android 17

That's the team right there.
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>>381944915
Beerus
Teen Gohan
Fat Buu

2 for 3 so far
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>tfw my dream team is made out of guaranteed characters
>tfw my dream has come true in a couple of games already

Piccolo, Gohan, and Trunks. I'll honestly play anyone, if I like their playstyle. I don't really dislike any DB character.
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>>381944915
Cell
Beerus
Hercule

My odds are pretty good
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>>381945618
>Beerus
>Hercule
>My odds are pretty good
sadly
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Janemba
Goku Black
Android 18
Only one of those is actually going to be on the roster though I guess maybe Goku Black could make it in as DLC maybe.
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Mystic Gohan
Teen Gohan
Great Saiya man
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I want Tapion to use his Ocarina to freeze opponents for a few seconds, and bulma in a mech suit would be interesting
I realize it's 3 vs 3
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Does anybody have the movelist/discriptions of the e3 characters? I saw the image floating around before
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>>381945880
I also know my whole team has no chance of making the cut
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Beerus
King vegeta
yakon
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>>381945881
here
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Piccolo FUCKING WHEN

I think Mr. Satan or Roshi would be awesome as well.
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>>381945936
Have we ever gotten an explanation for why the animation was so bad?
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>>381945880
>bulma in a mech suit would be interesting
It's interesting, but extremely unlikely. The devs said they wanted to capture the feel of DB and that they have to design a character with how they already present themselves in mind. So they most likely won't be making up moves for characters or giving a character a fighting style they never fought with. Plus Launch with guns and grenades is better anyways.

>Tapion to use his Ocarina
good tatse
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Hit
SA17
Garlick Jr
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>>381946265
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>One of my favorite characters was inspired by Trunks
>Now I get to play the man who inspired him

God, if he plays anything like Kaede, I'll cream my pants. Instant main, either way.
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>>381944915
GT Kid Goku
Android 16
Janemba
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>>381944915
Jackie Chun
Black
Piccolo
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>>381945486
I got the same dream team, but more specifically, I'd prefer Future Gohan, but I doubt we'd get him.
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>>381946403
since this is the marvel killer, what if we get guilty vs dbz later on?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jcQ1rlRnQA

Which version of this scene do you think is better?

Z or Kai?
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>>381946112
Does anyone think that other more unique/complex characters will get more complicated inputs?
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>>381945684
Get rekt pleb Beerus and Hercule are GOAT
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>>381946605
As silly as that is, we'd probably see GG vs. BB before something so weird as that.
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>>381946674
Kai is better in everyway for everything.

the only thing that beats Kai is Gohan's SSJ2 transformation in Japanese, I have no clue why they removed the song in Kai.
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>>381946674
z ofc
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>>381946605
Bamco might want to keep it in the family
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>>381944915
That looks awesome.
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>>381946674
>that music in kai that starts playing when he's going ssj3
Super has totally ruined this music for me. I don't know where it originated, but after watching Super, I don't want this shitty shit playing over DBZ.
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>>381946971
one piece of shit vs dbfz? it would be hype.
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>Vegeta
>Android 18
>Bojack
>Turles
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>>381946787
Nigga fuck you, nothing will top that Bruce Faulconer theme.
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>>381946674
>You're going to love this, trust me.
vs
>shitty new script with good acting
Not even close, Z wins by 10 miles.
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So now that G. Frieza confirmed, will we get Beerus or Jaco as fighters?
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>>381946265
Not enough production time. the worst episodes were only given about 4 weeks until airtime. I think on average a decent episode was supposed to have 6 weeks, while some of the Zamasu episodes had 10. I can't remember where I heard that. Might have been kekdom or some other youtuber. But I think the reason it's gotten so much better lately is because the buildup to the tournament of power was a bunch of do-nothing episodes, giving them more time to work on the action episodes
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>>381944915
Hopefully they have at least one unlikely character like bulma or launch. Wouldn't mind Yajarobi either, but if they don't have enough manga reference for their attacks then I'm ok with their omission.
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>>381947371
>will we get Beerus or Jaco as fighters?
I hope not. 2 slots wasted right there. I would rather have Blue Goku and Blue Vegeta who fight different then normal Goku and Vegeta than have Beerus.

Jaco is cool tho.
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>Majin Vegeta unlikely now
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Hit
Launch
Mai
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How much does everyone think dlc characters will be? im thinking $3.99, single character, if they do arc character bundles for $15, would you be down buying it? For around 5-7 characters
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>>381944915
Yamcha
Jaco
Spike
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>>381944915
>Piccolo
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>>381947473
>would rather have Blue Goku and Blue Vegeta who fight different then normal Goku and Vegeta than have Beerus.
some people really...
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>>381947531
>Majin Vegeta unlikely now
What if he's an install for Buu saga Vegeta?
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>>381947531
Just play Hyper DBZ
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>>381947371
Beerus is almost guaranted, but Jaco is hard to say, he could have a nice playstyle I guess, watching him fight against Frieza's grunts was fun.
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>>381946674
>that music in Z when he's finally a super saiyan 3

God I love that music
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>>381947371
Here's hoping Beerus doesn't get in. He barely has a moveset beyond throwing a recolored Death Ball and his delete button
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Janemba, 18, and Piccolo. If anything I just hope 18 makes it.
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>>381947792
>Janemba, 18, and Piccolo
>having taste this good
Damn anon, 3v3 me.
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>>381946674
acting is better in kai, writing is better in z
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>>381947792
18 is always playable
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>>381947671
I can get behind this.
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>>381947930
I thought Goku and Vegeta's acting was much better in Z, at least for the buu saga
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>>381944915
These are the dark horses. If you think your character's odds are lower than these guys, then you should give up now barring someone who is so ridiculous that they're just a joke. Also, pick your dark horses.

>Nappa
>Ginyu
>Recoome
>Chi Chi
>Bulma
>Yamcha
>Chiaotzu
>Yajirobe
>Dabura
>Raditz
>Garlic Jr.
>Hercule
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>>381948235
>>Ginyu
>>Nappa
They're not THAT low. But yeah, everyone else on the list is definitely not getting in the game.
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>>381947189
this actually looks kind of fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qixc-2e5w2A
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>>381947473
>>381947747
>all these triggered saiyaniggers assblasted that Goku isn't the big man on block anymore
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Lets be realistic with the roster here.

I'm predicting 24 characters which falls in line with a 3v3 game (8 teams) and a starting Arcsys roster. I also left out all the fantasy booking people seem to have.

Goku
Vegeta
Teen Gohan
Future Trunks
Cell
Freiza
Majin Buu
Piccolo
16
17
18
Tien
Krillen
Yamcha
Hercule
Nappa
Broly
Bardock
Beerus
Hit
Gotenks
Dabura
Kid Buu or Raditz
Ginyu


That covers fighters from every saga besides Dragonball.

Any Super characters being on the base roster besides Hit is a long shot, same with any Special/Movie characters besides Bardock, Beerus, and Broly.
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>>381948235
I think Ginyu, Nappa, Yamcha, Dabura and Satan have a significally higher possibility of entering.
People always talk about "not enough moves", specially after seeing how many of them were based on manga panels, but if that was the case the game would have like 10 characters tops. I don't see why they can't make up a whole moveset based from scratch or from some references.
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>>381946674
Why didn't they ever just send all the Z fighers at a mother fucker at once
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>>381948235
Ginyu and Nappa actually have a somewhat decent chance, and from what the interview said at Hercule could possibly be an assist-focused character.
The rest are unlikely though.

Personally I don't think fused Zamasu will get in, and 16 has a less likely chance, though I want both
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>>381946674
>Kai
that shit is unwatchable. If it's more faithful to the source then I would rather just read the manga or watch the sub instead.
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>>381947189
>hightest selling manga vs former hightest selling
Day one buy if it happens
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>>381948717
i feel like clusterfuck battles like that have a bigger chance of someone slipping up and accidentally blowing up the planet
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>>381948717

Because only one person is usually strong enough to actually do anything. There's no strength in numbers in DBZ.
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>>381948713
Nappa has plenty of melee moves to work with. Guy was pretty monstrous, actually.
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>>381946605
>Guilty vs DBZ
H-holy shit, I never knew I wanted this.
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Piccolo
16
Cell
The mean green underrated team
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>>381948538
>wanting shitty character with shitty fighting style and like 2 special moves to take up a slot
neck yourself
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>>381947456
>that time where female characters had damn thick on them
>all bones these days

Godammit Toriyama

>>381947531
At the very least Majin Vegeta is dlc. His character had unique ki-blasts and a madman fighting style, That would be the 2nd Vegeta in game, 3rd would be Super/RoF with base and Blue transformation like Golden Freeza.
Goku's 2nd version will be Super/BoG/RoF, wouldnt be surprised if Red form is there as a special attack(like a Kamehameha or some combo) and Blue as Golden. 3rd Goku could be either SS4 or Kid Goku as dlc
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Broly Hulk
Piccolo Dormammu
16 Sentinel

If 16 isn't in I'll play Fat Buu.
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>>381948875
>edited to cut out filler
>way better English voice acting
>unwatchable
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>>381944915
Bardock
Raditz
Vegeta

im doomed
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>>381948538
>has no argument
Beerus barely has a moveset, thus he's a shit fit for the game whose slot would be better filled by Black or someone who's fought more than one time.
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>>381944915
What are his chances? Am I gonna get dissapointed?
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>>381948958
Yeah but what if that like actually strong person just held the dude still so everyone else could get blows in.
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>>381949025
>>381949126

>MUH SLOTS
>MUH SAIYANS
>MUH NOT ENOUGH MOVES
You're just mad cuz you know you're going to get raped by cat dick just like your boy did in the show
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No Buubi, no buy
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>>381948882
Excluding the Jump games and that crossover with the 3ds games, I'm surprised it hasn't happened in a standalone game already, Dragon Ball and One Piece are pretty much brother franchises.
There was DON too, but that doesn't count.
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>>381946112
>all quarter circles
Reading from the KI handbook, huh
This is a good thing
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>>381949024
add pikkon we need dead people representation.
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I just want to see how they'll do the story mode
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I saw Mai in an episode of super. What the fuck is going on with that.
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What is with you fuckers wanting multiple versions of characters?

They already said there wont be multiple
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>>381948713
>but if that was the case the game would have like 10 characters tops
That's completely wrong though.
>Kid Goku
>Roshi
>Tao
>Tien
>Piccolo
>Nappa
>Saiyan/Namek Vegeta
>Saiyan/Namek Goku
>Saiyan/Namek Kid Gohan
>Frieza
>Future Trunks
>Perfect Cell
>Buu Saga Vegeta
>Buu Saga Goku
>Teen/Mystic Gohan
>Vegito
>Fat Buu
>Kid Buu

Super:
>Hit
>Black

Movies:
>Turles
>Meta Cooler
>Broly
>Janemba
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>>381949201
So, you're just a furfag who can only repeat the equivalent of you mad ad naseum over having an actual argument.
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>>381949131
DLC, probably, though likely not before movie villains.
>>381949126
Beerus actually does have some moves, though admittedly most are shown through Xenoverse (Where he shares a few moves with Whis).
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>>381949082
They sound like they're reading bullet points in kai instead of real dialogue. The original just sounds more natural to me and almost every clip comparison I've seen posted in random threads kai always ends up sounding worse even worse, which surprises me sometimes because I'll actually think "ya that part of Z wasn't that good" and then kai will make it sound some how worse.

I guess that explains why I can't watch the Super dub now either, because it sounds just as bad as Kai.
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>>381949504
Pilaf, Mai, and Shu wished to be young again
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>>381949504
she's gonna fuck trunks, it's hot
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>>381948581

Producer-san said they wanted to please every fan. So at least one character of DB(Roshi), GT(Pan), Movies(Bardock? Future Gohan one arm? Broly will probably be dlc) and Super/BoG/RoF(Beerus) have to be there in-game, no dlc.

Another set could be dlc, like Kid Goku, SSJ4 Goku or Gogeta, Broly, Hit. Zamasu or Black could be saved for another game
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>>381949201
>Saiyans
Get the fuck out dude. Beerus is ass. I would take Videl over Beerus any day of the week. She's even better than him in XV2.
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>>381949265
>Shenron holding a tea cup and lounging
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We better get all these universes as DLC at least.
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>>381949506
>They already said there wont be multiple
No they didn't.
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Hatchiyak
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>>381946674
z
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>>381949619
>Broly DLC
>The dude who has a fucking ride in Universal Japan
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>>381949368
There is nothing wrong with simplistic, universal inputs. Your game has all the depth it had normally with just as many moves. It might be easier for a casual to learn a combo but even a game as babby tier as Smash 4 can separate the men from the boys.
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>1)Goku SSJ
>2)Vegeta SSJ
>3)Gohan SSJ2
>4)Mystic Gohan
>5)Frieza
>6)Perfect Cell
>7)Majin Buu
>8)Kid Buu
>9)Piccolo
>10)Trunks SSJ
>11)Krillin
>12)Tien (+ Chiaotzu)
>13)Roshi
>14)Android 16 (+ C17 and C18)
>15)Captain Ginyu (+ Ginyu Force)
>18)Hercule (or Videl)
>19)Black Goku SSJR
>20)Beerus
>21)Broly LSSJ
>22)Gotenks SSJ3
>23)Dabura (+ Babidy)
>24)Vegito SSJB
>25)Merged Zamasu

A solid roster prediction. When I use "(+ ******), it means that those characters are support only, like showing themselves during a certain move. SSJB is an alternate color for Goku and Vegeta and SSJ is an alternate color for Vegjto.
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FUCK YOUR BARDOCK PICOLLO ANDROID GINYU LOW TIER BULLSHIT

WHEN IS MAH MAN GETTING CONFIRMED
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>>381949504
Grown up Mai was part of Trunks future where Zamasu and Goku Black started to kill everybody, it was a clusterfuck, but Mai was a qt.

>>381949532
>Tao
Sorry he was already deconfirmed, and I don't think they'll want to have so many versions of the same character after saying they want to have more "unique" ones.
You're missing Gotenks by the way.
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>>381949769
>ywn play db fighters ToP with an 80 characters roster and 10 vs 10 fights
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>>381949812
there better be a movie character dlc
>meta cooler
>janemba
>hatchiyak
>garlic jr
>super android 13
>broly
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>Piccolo
>Future Gohan or Hit or Vegeta if those two don't get in
>Krillin
Anything else isn't based
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>>381948235
all day every day
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>>381949852

That's how you make money. Broly first day dlc, 3,99 or 4,99, including Broly's voice in the main menus screaming KAAAAAAAKAROOOOOOTTTTO
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>>381949908
>18 isn't her own character
>Hercule instead of Videl
>Black Goku and Merged Fagasu
>Vegito S S J"B"
anon, no.
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>>381949619
>DB
Roshi
DK Piccolo
>GT
Omega Shenron
Pan or Gogeta with SSJ4 install
>Super
Hit (Fairly certain IF Super gets involved)
Beerus if you count him as Super, Merged Zamasu if he's not
>Movies
Broly is fairly certain
Janemba is possible
Cooler would be great
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>>381944915
I just wanna get Blacked. No one else matters, except maybe Dabura, but I won't kill myself if he isn't in.
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>>381949534
>monkeyfucker trying to call anyone a furfag
Hey anon spoilers you ARE mad
>>381949701
>MUH WAIFU
Well at least your impotent whining is novel, shame your taste in waifus is shit. Imagine being so retarded you claim "Beerus can't have a moveset" while squealing for fucking VIdel lmao
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>>381947335

More like
>Shitty totally invented script with bad acting
vs
>Script 1:1 from the manga with good acting
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>>381949963
>where Zamasu and Goku Black started to kill everybody

Let's not be dismissive of his accomplishments.

Technically, he DID get EVERYONE killed.
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>>381950167
>Hercule OR Videl
>Hercule instead of Videl
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>>381949581
>The original just sounds more natural to me

All I hear in the original is a lot worse acting, not "naturalness".
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Young Bulma who plays like either Tron or Chris.
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>>381950283
>Script 1:1 from the manga
>implying trying to emulate the jap script with a different language and the lip syncing works out
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>>381950217
Videl has a better fighting style than Beerus. And has more potential as a character than he does. Gauranteed pure rushdown vs another generic shitty Not!Villain.
>waifu
get the fuck out
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The Dark Planet from the Hatchiyack movie is in the game.
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>>381950089
>This game is going to get system voice DLC just like Blazblue/Guilty Gear/Persona
>Can choose any character in the cast to be the character select/in-match announcer with different expressions based on who you choose
>JP voices only
I didn't even realize it until just now.
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>>381947189
>>381946971
Let me break the gameplay down
You tap a button to attack. There are no command inputs aside from forward, down and up. No quarter circles or anything like that. You just tap buttons to get the same combo strings. Then you use assists to extend those combos.
It's pretty damn shallow, but if you can get it for around $20 it's not terrible.
Unlocking shit is a nightmare and the 100%+ supers inputs are clumsy.

Ideally Bleach: Dark Souls will just get a sequel or a virtual console release one day. That shit was on lock.
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>>381950217
Yep. Definitely agitated that Beerus at most has a Death Ball recolor and a delete button. Maybe he'll get in as a cutscene only character
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>>381950405

It's called "translating". The rest of the planet did it with their DB and DBZ dubs. Only murrifags got Jesus Christ Goku that was the "Hope of the universe" and the lightbulb in the darkness.
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>>381950425
he's guaranteed to be dlc if not already in then
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>>381946674
Kai, by a landslide.
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>>381950283
More like
>Script everyone knows and loves with good acting.
vs
>Script that follows the manga better even though in this particular scene it doesn't make a fucking difference, with good acting.
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>dragon ball fighterz
>z
>people still think super characters are happening
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>>381949902
I'm not complaining about it but inputs affect design. A DP on Z motion will be different than one on QC
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>>381950594
>everyone

Everyone who? Murrica?
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Master fucking Roshi.

We already see that certain big super moves cause a temporary transformation. With that, him going full swole and launching the OG Kamehameha fits easily. Plus, ASW loves their fighting grandpas.
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>>381950423
Ok, in all seriousness, Videl is a worse fighter than anyone. Even fucking Yajirobe could probably kick her shit in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8psgbpFR3I
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>>381950521
I played the demo and I could never get those to come out. I tap the buttons and nothing fucking happens. I'd rather just double quartercircle for them or something.
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>>381950748
>Murrica
>Literally one of the only countries that even fucking matters
>probably a eurofag who thinks his country/continent matters
Keep crying.
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>>381950720
retard
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>>381946674
Kai is better by a fucking mile.
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but muh nostalgia
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>>381945880
Fucking lol.

I want a cameo character that's the fusion of Tony Hawk and Tony The Tiger, He's called Tony Tony and is stronger than Vegito
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>>381950423
>Gauranteed pure rushdown vs another generic shitty Not!Villain
did you literally just compare a gameplay archetype with a character archetype as an attempted defense of your shitty waifu? fucking L M A O these retarded moe fans trying to infest the DB fandom smdh

>>381950536
>literally NO U
go cool off buddy, it's not good for your heart
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Faulconer is the best.
Butthurt eurofags get out of my thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJfmqxwp3MQ
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>>381950965
b-but I wanna go even further beyond!
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>>381949701
>Videl

Why would you include the worse thing in Dragon Ball since Chichi?

Fuck, why not just include Chichi?
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>>381950827
>Videl is a worse fighter than anyone
>Shows a video of her beating the fuck out of her opponent and fighting better than even Gotenks did
>She would have won if not for the fact that her opponent un-broke his own fucking neck
Yajirobe would probably get his shit pushed if it weren't for his hick strength
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>>381950910

>murrica, the place where Dragon Ball Z arrived 10 years later than the rest of the globe
>With a totally diferent OST because of reasons
>with a totally diferent script because Goku had to be Superman or Jesuscrhist and not a fighting maniac

I'm not the one that eats shit and has to say "mmmm it's yummy" here.
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>>381951164
>Godzilla
>shitty
>comparing Kikuchi to Akira Ifukube
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>>381951164
Faulconer had one good theme.
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>>381951120
>being this stupid
Videl's fighting style is pure rushdown, Beerus' isn't.

Superfags are fucking stupid
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>>381950423
I'd happily take Young Gohan as a rushdown character (since he is) over Videl

The two can't exist together anyways.
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>>381946674
Sean Schemmel is the fucking man.
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>>381951120
You've presented no counterargument, so I'm responding kind. Beerus won't get in because he has only two special attacks and you know it
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>>381951202
She got her ass kicked and lost. Not on a technicality, she fucking got curb-stomped in the end.
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>>381951318
>The two can't exist together anyways.
Neither can Cell and Majin Buu.
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>>381951271
YOU HEARD ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzNi6qFdrVk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHrEMZG1unY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riY1Q4704QQ
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>>381951232
>German vassal state
>Leaders replacing him and his people with foreigners
>Crimes way up as a result, but you can't talk about it because
>Actual thought police
I'll take the dubbing, thanks.
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>>381949852
Dude, Bamco can jew him out exactly because of how popular he is; it's like people forget they had the fucking gal to make Vegito a DLC character in that shitty Battle of Z game.
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>>381951291
You know who would be a great rushdown character?
Fucking Yamcha. Bandit, Turtle school, Baseball, Hobo, whatever
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>>381951436
>Neither can Cell and Majin Buu.
How's that?

Cell could get resurrected and exist at the same time as Majin Buu. Nothing's stopping that outside of no one wishing him back (which we can't put past Goku).

Gohan instantly becomes the biggest shitter in Dragon Ball the second he's aware of Videl's existence.
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>>381951291

Just saiyan, since they are taking shit from the manga they can take things from Beerus vs Champa in Super's manga to make a Beerus fighting style + BoG shit or that episode 14 or 15

For awhile people wanted to use SSG or B Goku against Beerus, so that's a change. I hope is that Goku's outfit is the one from RoF.
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>>381951447
You missed my point. Ifukube is far better than Cuckuchi
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>>381951427
You mean after her enemy lost no stamina from a beating?
You mean after she got ki blasted and naturally ran out of stamina like a human does?

She put up a great fight and lost only because her enemy could not get tired and could not die, that's the exact same shit that happened to SSJ3 Goku when he fought Kid Buu. Her fight literally shows her beating Spopo quite easily until the shift in inhuman shit, so she's clearly not a bad fighter as OP suggests.
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>>381951164
>Faulconer is the best.
You should be setenced to hanging on live television.

>Butthurt eurofags
Literally every country in the world but murrica had the original soundtrack, only mericucks got brainwashed by that synth cancer and fucked up translation.
>>
Does Dokkan have Super characters?
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>>381951640
>Cell could get resurrected and exist at the same time as Majin Buu
And Videl could easily go back in time to the Cell saga using Trunks' time machine that Bulma still had stored.

Your logic is shit.
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>>381951715
whatever you say mehmet
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>>381951768
But then Young Gohan instantly becomes shitty, transforming into the ultimate jobber Teen Gohan.

Cool Gohan and Videl just can't exist together.
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>>381951164
Nice facebook tier opinion and image, now i have aids.
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>>381951759
Yes.
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>>381951759
Yeah
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>>381951687
>that's the exact same shit that happened to SSJ3 Goku when he fought Kid Buu

No it's not.

Goku explicitly says that he could have beaten Kid Buu if he really went all out in SSJ3, he just wanted to let Trunks and Goten have a go at it because he's fucking retarded and decided to have a repeat of Gohan vs Cell for kicks.
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>>381952037

Goku says a lot of things.
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>>381951291
>Videl's fighting style is pure rushdown, Beerus' isn't.
explain why you believe this
explain why this is a bad thing regardless
explain why you think "not!villain" (lmao) is a fighting game archetype
>>381951416
you've presented no argument in the first place
"two special attacks" is literally not a problem but since you're so determined that this somehow counts as an argument (LMAO) let me break this down for you
1. even if he only had one attack, that one attack can be applied in any number of different ways. how many variations of the kamehameha are there? you could build a moveset off of those alone if you wanted. hell, you YOURSELF have made this argument by calling for Goku recolors, who would be using Goku's skills in different ways.
2. you have actually read or watched Beerus' content right? you do know that the energy of destruction can be used in many ways, as telekinesis or even as a bundle of power to be given to subordinates. beerus could have an entire moveset made out of the manipulation of these powers without even adding standard martial or rush attacks. if anything beerus is one of the most effortlessly unique characters available
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>>381952358
Yeah, like
>Hey Cell, have a Senzu Bean!
>>
Anyone else really dislikes Goku and his retarded brain dead behavior? He is always putting people in danger just because he likes fighting. What an asshole.
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HOYL FYUCKING SHTI GUYS COMPLETE ROSTER LEAK!!
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>>381952492
>No Superman

Is fake.
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>everyone screaming like literal children about who does and doesn't get in
>threre's already enough character revealed that I like
>two personal favorites are guaranteed to get in
>get to swag on niggas with the best boy

have fun arguing about whether or not beerus is getting in lol I'm good with Krillin and it's only a matter of time until Gotenks gets revealed
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>>381949852
Yes motherfucker. That's why
>>
Trunks, Goku, and Kale/Broly(regular ssj)
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>>381952492
>separate character slots for each form
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>>381952693
>shitty filler female saiyan meme character getting in
lol keep on dreaming
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>>381946112
how does goku turn ssj3? is only during meteor smash?
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>>381952037
>Kid Buu
>brings up Trunks and Goten
???
>he could have beaten Kid Buu
>but Goku was running out of stamina and even after disintegrating Kid Buu with a Kamehameha, Kid Buu regenerated
vs
>Videl could have beaten Spopovich
>but Videl was running out of stamina and even after breaking Spopovich's neck, he twisted it back into place
Same fucking shit.

>>381952405
>explain why you believe this
Because that's how she was in the manga?
>explain why this is a bad thing regardless
Because he has nothing to differentiate him well from the rest of the possible cast. It's not like Hakai moves will insta-ko.
>explain why you think "not!villain" (lmao) is a fighting game archetype
The fact that you actually took my post that way shows how fucking retarded you are. Beerus is a shitty not!villain, and he has no unique moveset or interesting specials aside from the Hakai, so unlike Videl who is pure melee, he has nothing to set him aside from other shitty villains and or not!villains.
3/10 bait, but I'll keep biting.
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>>381952492
That game had literally everybody.

>metal cooler
>but also the weird big cooler
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>>381952772
>filler
lmao
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>>381952492
>No Zamasu
>No Black
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>>381952634
Gotenks may actually NOT get in. They actually talked about fusions and said that they'd consider it for special moves, but would prefer not to use fusions for actual characters.

That said, the roster is still up in the air and subject to fan desire.

Krillin's 110% confirmed though.
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>>381952781
Yeah, but sometimes he doesn't. I wonder what the condition is.
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>>381951447
>hear the third link
>this would be great for dragonball with goku going off on an adventure
>its for vagito
: |
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>>381952037
>for kicks.
Not the same situation retard, this time around Goku was thinking heroicaly, in the manga and anime he had the same thought, he wanted to leave some sort of legacy to another warrior so the planet can be protected in his absence, Goku is fight triggered Sayan but sometimes he wants to do something right.

Gotenks in the end was a failure because the overconfident little shit wasted all his chances, so Goku had to shift his attention to Uub years later.
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>>381952634
I'm just happy that two of my favorite anime characters are almost always auto includes; Piccolo and Freeza.
Here's hoping Piccolo has some crazy dalsim and hellzone tech.
Ideally Yamcha will be in so I can have some rushdown too. maybe a level 5 suicide super
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>>381952804
>Because that's how she was in the manga?
She had all of 4 pages of fighting in the manga, 2 of which were interspersed with Gohan being a bitch.

That's hardly enough to confirm her fighting style.
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>>381952804
>literally "i was only pretending to be retarded"
LMAO
i also love this "m-muh waifu would totally be the best because she has only melee and this is for some reason a good thing but her dad would be shit because i can't fap to him"
go beat off on your anime pillow and cry nerd boy lmao
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>>381952772
>he thinks the canon characters filler
I like both but c'mon anon
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>>381952492
FUCKING VEGITO AS DLC

Battle of Z was the just an abortion.
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>>381951164
Faulconer fags are just the worst.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA75cICOwRM&t=1m11s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeSF2zu4XUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPVSkGoDrTY&t=1m54s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbKsE6u5hVA&t=2m36s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FF6zfRmSRM&t=2m40s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebyKpo6A9s&t=44s

Most american fans grew up with it so I guess it's fine if they like it, both the dub style and soundtrack were made to cater to their tastes anyway since americans like their japanese stuff "buttrock" and "Badass" ( (see "Rock the Dragon" replacing "Cha-la", or any Kirby game cover for that matter).
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>>381946367
Does all the budget go into Kamen Rider Ex-Aid?
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>>381953162
>Buttmad Buttdevastation
>The post
Stay mad nigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8j67DCEWQQ
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>>381952840
Zamasu and/or Black would be great additions, but if they play it true the immortality thing would be tough to handle, but could be interesting.
Unfortunatly the game is probably already set in character selection and designing was decided long before the Black arc was even halfway through.
DLC for sure though.
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>>381953083
>She had all of 4 pages of fighting in the manga
And they further elaborated in the anime. ArcSys is also digging into the anime for the game. She also wasn't shown to shoot ki blasts, and was shown to jump right into the fight, that's all you need to know to solidify her as rush down.

>>381953094
bait got substantially worse in just one post.
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>>381953162
>that faulconer theme for Goku vs Vegeta

I hope no one comes in here defending that shit, that's embarassing.
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>>381951321
He's really the definitive Goku for me. Blows Masako Nozawa out of the water for sure. His Goku Black voice is kinda weird, but he fixed it with the Rose voice and I'm hoping that's the one they use from the beginning.
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>>381953162
>>381953162

Faulconer did do a better job of making Imperfect Cell creepy, which was the intention in the manga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z_XZt1QuiE

Outside of a few select instances like that though, you're right.
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>>381953326
>synth-rock hybrid for added badassery

No thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-cgcDFINTo
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>>381947531
most likely will come out as a skin
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>>381953351
>And they further elaborated in the anime

No they didn't, unless you count the movies, in which case fuck off.
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>>381953172
If so I forgive them.
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>>381953663
>shitty spic godzilla music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vvlLEKRPm8
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>>381953641
his slow theme was better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImB0HK16-tQ
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>>381953347
I could see them implementing self-healing and team-healing moves for Zamasu. Moves that can help recover red health.
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>>381947671
>different forms of characters
Keep dreaming. We'll have one Vegeta, one Piccolo, one Trunks. At best we'll have two Gokus.
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>>381953728
Are you fucking stupid? Watch the fight, there's more in the anime than in the manga.
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>>381944915
chi chi
krillin
great sayaman
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>>381947473
>doesn't like Beerus
>does like Jaco
Holy shit. Is it possible to have taste this bad? Beerus' temper and love for food is 100 times better than Jaco's "unexpected good thing happened and now I'm taking credit for it because I'm SUPER ELITE" bullshit. Jaco is entirely unlikable on every level other than his design.
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>>381953641
1m3s~1m18s is kind of ominous, I guess, but I don't see how that song overall makes for creepy ambience.
But I can agree with >>381953895
Though I'm also fine with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mHKyVm9XCE&t=0m52s as far as creepiness goes.
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>>381948717
because toriyama doesn't know how to draw multiway battles
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>>381949131
Bardock is more likely than 75% of characters. That being said we're gonna be lucky to get the full top 20%. Bardock has a shot as pre order bonus or DLC, but don't expect him in the base game.
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vegeta
caulifla
hit
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>>381953641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMeaXIoAEkg
sounded so good on the gba
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>>381946728
Mr Satan will get delta pretzel 360 star motions for his simplest attacks.
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>>381953347
I don't know, they said they were only 20% done or something.
I can see Black or Zim-zam still being included with a few tweaks and adjustments to account for end arc stuff.
Then again the process is apparently doing 3D models and then drawing over them for the look as I understand it, so who knows, but the Black arc is as deep as the innitial roster will go if we get any Super stuff.

And for people saying Beerus doesn't have moves, you're right. But if Capcom can invent shit for characters that had none, then ArcSys definitely can.
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>>381954154
not that guy, but i'd be more inclined to like an opportunistic dick than a xenocider
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>>381952492
>frieza 100%
>perfect cell SSJ2
actually impressed.

no king cold, no zarbon two forms, no dodoria and no hercule though.
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>>381948717
They did once.

Trunks got thrown into Vegeta which ended up with both of them getting knocked the fuck out, while Tienshinhan ended up getting choked out and Picollo got fucked.

The only one's who are co-ordinated enough or know each other well enough to fight together are Goku / Vegeta, Goku / Krillin, and Gohan / Krillin.

Goku and Vegeta rarely fight together because "muh pride", while Goku and Krillin never fight together anymore because there's not been an opponent that Krillin can really help that much against. Gohan / Krillin did once against Not-Goku and it worked fine, but Gohan's surpassed Krillin by far too much at this point.
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>>381953785
I have only watched clips of the funimation (I think it was funi anyways) dub, what's all this face off music for? Is there always a background song playing? I grew up with the original score and I always thought the moments of silence, specially before fights started, added a lot to the tension.
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>>381954363
>perfect cell ss2
>ss2
this fucking meme again
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>>381944915
Goku
Vegeta
Piccolo
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>>381946674
>Dub
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>>381954276
I love that they used the faulconer music for these games
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>>381948717
>literally from the latest ep
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>>381954154
>fun joke character
vs
>shitty anger tempered character who took Goku and Majin Buu's food meme to an entire new level
Yeah, Beerus is ass, Jaco is better. Shit, even Champa is better than Beerus, and he's just a fat Beerus clone that acts more like a child.
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>>381954442
couldn't he? i remember the aura and electricity, but it's not like he had hair to spike
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>>381954442
he was tingling, get over it.
>>
Who do you think would be included if they made Super, Movie, Dragon Ball, and GT DLC packs
>>
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Ultimate Gohan
>Piccolo
>Future Trunks
>Krillin
>Ten shin han
>18
>Gotenks
>Vegito
>Ginyu (w Ginyu force )
>Frieza
>Cell
>Majin Buu
>Kid Buu
>Beerus
>Goku Black
>Hit
>Zamasu

DLC
>Bardock
>Broly
>Janemba
>Gogeta
>Vegito Blue
>Jinren
>Merged Zamasu
>Baby Vegeta
>Super 17
>Omega Shenron
>SSJ4 Gogeta

Never ever
>Arale
>DB Characters
>Yamcha
>Mr Satan
>Videl
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>>381954705
I don't think there's ever been anything official saying otherwise, but I see no reason why Cell couldn't go SSJ as weird as that sounds.
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>>381949082
>Way better english voice acting

The new gohan is fucking atrocious.

I can understand people not liking Genkai frieza even though she is better but the new gohan voice is just offensive
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>>381946674
>kai version
Every time I see a clip of a major moment it's like it sucks all the life out of the moments that made Z as popular as it is.
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>>381954804
>back tingles
>he probably figured it out on accident just flexing his wings
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>>381954610
Well no wonder he keeps getting beaten like a bitch.
>MUH PRIDE.
vegeta you have no pride it died in namek.
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>>381954993
I can understand that. I do like new Gohan's screams, though
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>>381954650
To be fair that scene also wasn't silent all the time in the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dczgJKZGJ_w&t=2m37s
Also holy shit was Piccolo's VA bad in this scene of the american dub, I usually like him as far as the videogames go (is it the same guy?).
>>
Future 1 arm Gohan is cool but he never reached SS2? He trained hard and had so many traumatic moments. Kind of odd.
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>>381954442
>Comes back from a single cell
>Without Android 18
>Not only comes back in Perfect form but now his Ki aura has lightning sparks and more confident that he could take Gohan out.
Face it, he got a Sayan zenkai boost and went some SSJ2 hybrid.
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>>381954804
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>>381955150
he threw his back out while lifting one day and lost the ability forever
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>>381955054
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>>381954862
>super
Hit
Cabbe
Caulifla
Kale

in that order (wishing toppo or bergamo though).

>movie
turles
slug
hatchyack
tapion

>DB
kid goku
Tao Pai Pai
chichi
pilaf mecha

>GT
baby ozaru
nouva shenron
SA17
pan
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>>381948235
>bulma
>chi chi
>they don't get new gorgeous designs be the head name in waifus

This will never not upset me, literally just make a thicc Jam and mecha Dizzy.
>>
>>381954254
>Bardock has a shot as pre order bonus or DLC, but don't expect him in the base game.

You realize Bardock's placed in the Top 10 for character popularity ever since that retarded movie came out?

Even beats out Krillin in a bunch of polls.
>>
>>381955150
His father wasn't alive anymore to keep insisting he had hidden potential.
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>>381955172
No he went super cell, hence why hes called fucking super perfect cell. If cell was super saiyan 2 he would have beaten gohan effortlessly.
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>>381955150
>had so many traumatic moments
Considering that everyone just kinda dies, I doubt he had many life changing moments. It probably would have took Trunks to die in front of him for him to go SSJ2.

Also, Kid Gohan had crazy potential, so death sparking it made sense, but Future Gohan most likely never got that chance. Goku and Vegeta had to slave away at training for SSJ2, and Caulifla was written by Toei.
>>
Piccolo
Krillin
Tien/Yamcha/Bardock depending on who gets in

They have cooler moves than the saiyans. Christ I hope somebody has Solar Flare.
>>
>>381955150
Future Gohan not having Goku train him in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for a year was a big difference.
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>>381955150
He only reached SSJ2 after a straight year of training with Goku.

Not very surprising he didn't reach it in the other timeline.

Though with Caulifla reaching SSJ2 in a manner of... hours? I don't know what to think anymore.
>>
>>381949189

Have you seen what happens when weak people punch strong people in DBZ? Literally does no damage.
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>>381949265
WHEN we get a OP vs DBZ game, their Cross Epoch costumes better be unlockables
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>>381955545
>Though with Caulifla reaching SSJ2 in a manner of... hours?
Until the manga comes in to save the story once again, pretend she doesn't exist. How it will probably go:
>Cabba shows off SSJ
>Caulifla can't do it
>Kale goes berserk for the same reaosn as before
>Caulifla gets SSJ as a fight or flight response to save Cabba

Either that or 100x better, Toyo will save us, don't worry.
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>>381955608
what about that time krilling threw a rock at goku
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Broly God better be playable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqzMlhhZSns
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>>381954862
Because the game is 3v3 let's go with 3 characters per pack.

>Super
Goku Black (Rose)
Zamasu/Jiren depending on when it comes out. Most likely Zamasu
Hit

>Movie
Cooler
Janemba
Gogeta (SSJ)

>Dragon Ball
Kid Goku
Tao Pai Pai
Master Roshi

>GT
Omega Shenron
Baby Vegeta
Gogeta (SSJ4)
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>>381955714
>Toyo will save us,
kek
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>>381955748

Filler.
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>>381955714
>no matter how much more sensibly written the manga is, the anime will have five billion times more the exposure and be treated as the definitive version of the story
i hate this
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>>381955714
But Super's Manga isn't canon.

Which is backwards as fuck. But that's Tori nowadays.
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>>381955757
Broly God is so ridiculous that he hasn't even appeared in Heroes yet, the place where all the fanfictions go to become real.
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>>381950037
>no Tapion
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>>381955757
>Broly cooking food
topkek
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>>381955929
>But Super's Manga isn't canon.
Not true.
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>>381955748
Both Krillin and Roshi have straight up taken bullets to the face with no repercussions.

Weaker characters don't hurt stronger characters except through some weird ass ki-manipulation (destructo disc shit).

Krillin also wasn't a fucking retard in the manga and didn't throw a rock at Goku
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>>381945936
All these years and I only, just now, realized just how fucking stupid DBZ is. The entire series is never about who is the smarter or better fighter. It's entirely about just having your hair change color / transform into a different form that magically has harder skin and harder hits. So the entire series has been about nothing but who can transform into the weirdest looking shit... Why the hell did I ever watch this?
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>>381955929
Toriyama sent his basic script outlines and designs to both Toei and Toyotaro, either both are canon or they are not, there's no middle term.
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>>381955760
Good list, anon, though I would add in SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta
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>>381955834
The anime is filler, they will eventually make OVA of the manga after Toriyama stops giving plot lines and the anime ends.
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>>381956054
Is unfortunate, but true.

Else Goku's already surpassed Beerus in terms of power as of the Zamasu arc.
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>>381956074
>Krillin also wasn't a fucking retard in the manga and didn't throw a rock at Goku
>"He's so powerful that as a Super Saiyan, even while sleeping, this rock should just burst into pieces once it touches him"

Krillin sounds like the average DBZ fan over-hyping power levels.
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>>381944915
Yamcha
Popo
Mr Satan(Hercules)

Joke team is beast team.
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>>381956091
How in the fuck are both canon, when we have shit like Shin saying Goku's surpassed Beerus in the manga, while he says Vegito is almost at Beerus's level in the anime?
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>>381956079
feels like nobody ever really gets stronger no matter how much everyone powers up though. like the dynamics of the fights and level of spectacle have remained unchanged forever
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>>381956161
No, Kaioshin says that Vegetto perhaps has surpassed Beerus, not Goku.
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>>381956161
>Is unfortunate, but true.
Not it's not, you literally have no source, as long as Toriyama keeps sending his stuff to both Toei and Toyo for them to work out their story then both are canon.
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>>381956161
>Is unfortunate, but true.
Not really. The manga is the one that Toriyama personally helps with. It may not be "canon," but it's the one that definitively tells the story.
>Goku's already surpassed Beerus in terms of power as of the Zamasu arc
How do you figure?
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>>381951416
Guile
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>>381950540
Jesus Goku wis way better than the dumb fuck he turned out to be in kai and super. He's completely unlikable
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>>381955834
If it makes you feel better anon the manga is selling pretty good in Japan, France and the USA.
>>381956161
Wrong, Toriyama has never stated which version is canon over the other. So it's up to the viewer to chose which continuity they prefer.
Also Toriyama is move involved with the production of the manga than he is with the anime.
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>>381956283
He never said that Goku has surpassed Beerus, go back to kanzenshuu you illiterate.
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>>381956286
Right? Piccolo was already throwing dudes through mountains back in the Saiyan Saga. Seeing someone get thrown through a mountain in Super has lost all impact. It just seems normal at this point.
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>>381956286
>the dynamics of the fights and level of spectacle have remained unchanged forever
That's because the best feats in the series happens during the Namek arc, then Toriyama nerfs all the characters so they aren't walking mini-nukes the second they face the new big bad.
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>>381950748
Yea the only country that matters
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>>381944915
>Gotenks
>Piccolo
>Krillin
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>>381956524
Sorry anon but unless you have a fortune of 2 billion, you don't matter either.
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>>381956464
even as far back as cell saga, vegeta's ultimate super final flash that skimmed the curvature of the earth and reached space was kind of blunted when i remembered nappa did this
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>>381956286
All that ever happens is after a guys merges with 7 people and gets multicolored pineapple hair, someone tries to punch him and he doesn't flinch. He just smirks and chuckles and that's how you know he's super strong now. Then someone else transforms and the cycle continues.
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>>381956232
>"He's so powerful that as a Super Saiyan, even while sleeping, this rock should just burst into pieces once it touches him"
The funny thing is Bulma shot Krillin and Roshi in their sleep and they were completely unharmed, but SS Goku is hurt by a rock in his sleep?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxcnS-EIHQ
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>>381956692
>super final flash that skimmed the curvature of the earth
That made 0 sense and I still fail to visualize how it's even possible for a ki blast that strong to hit a fucking angle like that.
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>>381956763
accurate

>>381956987
when i was a kid it was the coolest thing in the world, as an adult i suck and i just wonder how many people vegeta killed with it
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>>381956161
>Else Goku's already surpassed Beerus in terms of power as of the Zamasu arc.

Hell no.

Using Hakai uses every bit of energy for Goku while that move is used effortlessly by a God of Destruction.
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>>381956927
>Bulma shot Krillin and Roshi in their sleep and they were completely unharmed
>back when in DB characters never had the "let their guard down" plot anti-armor
I can't fucking envision Vegito or Buuhan getting caught by a laser. You would think those guys would sense all moving ki energy around them and anticipated the laser before it even left the barrel, yet somehow Goku gets 1 shotted.

Don't know what's worse, SSJ recolor, or that scene.
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>>381957085
well vegeta was on an uninhabited island thousand of miles into the south sea so he probably didnt kill anyone
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>>381955714
>Trunks has healing powers
>Goku still uses SSG, doesn't use Kaio Ken
>Zamasu throws katchin blocks
>Zamasu unfuses, then each half turns into it's own merged Zamasu and then multiplies
>SSB uses too much stamina so vegeta has to switch back and forth between SSG and SSB
>Toyo will save us, don't worry
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>>381944915
Vegeta, Cell.. And maybe someone else. Not sure yet.
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I don't know who I want to use outside of Trunks and Super Buu > Kid Buu > Majin Buu depending on what buus are in the game. Majin Buu is the least cool one, but I'll use him if he's the only Buu available.

Outside of Trunks and Buu, I kind of just like everyone else equally. I might take 18 for the waifu status but honestly I think Chi Chi and Bulma are hotter and I don't want to characters from the Cell saga. Perhaps Trunks, Buu, and Krillin, Krillin has always been cool.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfMWkzVMTwk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51PS6wh_qM0
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>>381957292
Nothing is wrong with any of those.
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>>381956692
>>381956464
>>381956286

Picollo FUCKED World Tournament Island as far back as Dragon Ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VO5Y_wFJsg

They've always been OP, the only thing they should get surprised at anymore is how easily the opponent blows shit up.
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>>381957292
It's definitely better than what the anime does which is "our heroes bash their heads on the metaphorical wall with no visible growth until the plot gives in"
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>>381956426

I find Goku's character pretty inconsistent at times.

One time he's a wide battle tested protector of earth, other times he's a complete moron, and other times he is borderline villainous with a callous disregard for other people's safety or wants.
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>>381957085
Cell had just murdered everyone on the surrounding islands, I think they were already dead.
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>>381957292
Half of those can be logically explained.
The other half are kinda in the air, but still make more sense than everything in the anime.
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>>381957421
He killed everyone on that fucking island with a power level of only 350.
That shows just how ridiculous DBZ got with power levels.
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>>381952868
The number of KI bars he has.
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Piccolo is a show in but I can't wait for the reveal.

Two others I want, Tenshinhan and Krillin, are far more dubious.
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>>381957227
>>381957554
yeah, but i feel like when they zoomed out to space the area encompassed by the blast had to be way more than just the island. but maybe that was just the radiance and not the part that destroys stuff
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>>381957553
>I find Goku's character pretty inconsistent at times.

His back story is that he was born to race of psychopaths and is only "normal" because of ACTUAL BRAIN DAMAGE.

I'd say his character's fairly consistent with someone who's suffered traumatic brain damage as an infant, and then repeatedly throughout their life.
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>>381957292
>Trunks has healing powers
Trunks has GenkiDama powers
>Goku still uses SSG, doesn't use Kaio Ken
Manga SSJB isn't completely broken like anime SSJB.
>Zamasu throws katchin blocks
Never knew he couldn't create them.
>Zamasu unfuses, then each half turns into it's own merged Zamasu and then multiplies
Eh, shit was hype though.
>so vegeta has to switch back and forth between SSG and SSB
Throw back to Goku on Namek against the Ginyu force.
>Toyo will save us, don't worry
You're right, hard to save us when the anime is completely ruining the story.
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>They didnt add Yamcha to their tournament team

What the fuck?
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>>381952868
It's kinda like gohans ultimate extender but it happens right away.
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>>381957918

I guess.
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>>381957378
That's too awesome.
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>>381957821
Krillin's already confirmed.
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>>381957918
>I'd say his character's fairly consistent with someone who's suffered traumatic brain damage as an infant, and then repeatedly throughout their life.
Yet when Broly suffers traumatic psychological damage, and is mind controlled his entire life, it's bad writing.
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>>381946674

Kai just takes all the drama out of key moments.
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>>381957926
>Eh, shit was hype though.
i agree with everything else you posted but that was just goofy. unless for once in the history of fiction a mass clone technique has each clone retain the power and competence of the original, and they're willing to write a fight like that
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>>381957918
>His back story is that he was born to race of psychopaths and is only "normal" because of ACTUAL BRAIN DAMAGE

They retconned that, his parents are loving Superman parents knockoffs and Bardock was a brilliant scientist now.
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>>381953162
It's hit or miss for me. I will admit that I do feel the synth stuff usually fits better in Z because its easily associated with space and futuristic stuff that Z focused on, but the japanese music perfectly fits dragon ball and since Z is just a continuation of it, it makes sense that they would keep that style of music especially when some character themes carry over like piccolos.

I can't really give an unbiased opinion though since I only watched about half of subbed Z where as I've seen all of dubbed Z multiple times.
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>>381946674
Z is infinitely more quotable. So it.
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>>381958117
Broly's "traumatic psychological damage" was another infant's crying.

That is TERRIBLE writing.
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>>381958059
Source? I mean, I believe you and he was guaranteed the moment Fighterz was even conceptualized, but I'd like to see confirmation.
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Whats the best transformation scene in the entire series?
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>>381958314
>Broly's "traumatic psychological damage" was another infant's crying.
No, it was him being stabbed and left for dead.
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>>381944915
Can't get better than this
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>>381958191

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-Vzxl85p-0

>Bardock created Power Balls

Even as a kid, that was fucking weird.
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>>381958382
Goku going SSJ against #19.
LSSJ in movie 8.
Trunks going SSJ over Gohan's death.
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>>381958382
Gohan going SSJ2 during the Cell games, Goku going SSJ1 on Namek, or Goku doing SSJ3 against Buu.

I think SSJ1 Goku on Namek is my absolute favorite though. I only got to see the show through Toonami and had no idea it was coming. When Goku went SSJ it blew my fucking mind.
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>>381958473
Team color swap
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>>381958404
Nope, it was the crying. He didn't remember the left for dead part.
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>>381950965
>Muh nuShit

Kai's dub is garbage. Its a combination of trying too hard and at the same time not trying at all.
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>>381946674
Kai. Always Kai. You nostalgiafags are pathetic. Dragon Ball fans in their 20's hated the old dub back then.
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>>381958527
is this just a dub thing? even if it's not, it kind of makes sense if saiyan "science" is just making up special moves
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>>381958473
Who's that in the middle? I recognize Turles and Rose
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>mfw half the roster is super characters
the assmad will be glorious
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>>381947274

Faulconer's music only really fits Cell and Vegeta, and Vegeta's "theme" only really plays 3 important times.
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>>381956286
>like the dynamics of the fights and level of spectacle have remained unchanged forever

Cell Saga was the fastest the fights looked, I think. After that it got worse.
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>>381958382

Goku going in SSJ in Budokai 1 and burst Limit.
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>>381958382
https://youtu.be/lIH9uas-uPk?t=246
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>>381958710
It fits the androids and buu very well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzxGGPW6CXo
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>>381958553
>Goku going SSJ against #19.
I like you. Overlooked transformation scene right there.

>Goku's hair actually flowing upwards into golden hair slowly as opposed to it being instant
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>>381958382
Golden Frieza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9dWetyDWU

It's not even a contest.
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>>381958630
>Nope, it was the crying.
That's wrong. His traumatic event was getting stabbed.
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>>381958927
This was so majestic.
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>>381958641
>You nostalgiafags are pathetic. Dragon Ball fans in their 20's hated the old dub back then.

Dragonball fans in their 20s at the time weren't english speakers, retard.
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>>381958670
There aren't enough relevant characters in Super with a defined moveset to take up half of the roster, moron.
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>>381958646

Yes, it's just a dub thing.

Well, the Bardock part. Power Balls are real.
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>>381958670
as long as they add her it might make up for the rest of the crap that comes with it.
probably not though
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>>381958630
>Nope, it was the crying
That makes no sense. He literally gets stabbed as a baby and autists and haters still try to make it seem like Goku's crying is what fucked with him the most. The reason why he "hates" Goku is because Goku reminds him of the worst moment in his life, which is exactly what Paragus tries to keep repressed using the mind control device.

Did Broly haters actually even watch the movie?
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>>381958382
>>381958927
Nice try, Freezer, but we all know what is #1. The moment that made you shit your pants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwrHGO7ljR0
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>>381956987
>FighterZ
It just keeps going forward without gravity acting on it. Its pretty fucking basic.
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Faulconer improved DBZ its a fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2jcKBTXrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KU50eYMw6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th147bUuWsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUI4DoLiwys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AWDctx19-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9tziWlL2LY
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>>381959270
I think the idea was originally for him to hate Vegeta because of what his father did to them
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>>381958659
YAMERO
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>>381958382
https://youtu.be/GCooeVfi1DQ?t=30s
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>>381959279
Abridged did it better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGWPDHrUWko
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>>381947274
>it became cool to hate on this because of yurops and latin americans as well as wannabe weeb purists
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>>381958473
Goten
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>>381958986
>He didn't have a video store in town
>He didn't get to experience subbed Dragon Ball in VHS goodness
My godbrother knew all of what was gonna happen in Dragon Ball before it even aired in the US. He had posters on his wall and everything. I saw History of Trunks subbed with him, my older brother and our cousin and friends.
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>>381959505
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>>381959505
I hate so many things about Super.

This is not one of them.
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>>381959392
While this is true, improving DBZ isn't hard. The Japanese audio is probably the worst out of all dubs. Same goes for the soundtrack and large parts of the script.
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>>381959589
>>381959589

That's Goku Jr idiot.
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>>381959521
That's literally the original transformation though, only less dragged out.
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>>381959505
wtf I love super now
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>>381959589
My dumb ass responded to the wrong post

>>381958659
It's Goten
>>
SAY IT WITH ME

NO

PUI

PUI

NO

BUY
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>>381959392
>that frieza ginyu beat is a thing of magic
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>>381959392
Some tracks were cool, but the ones that played most often and how he'd splice musics to fit every fucking action ruined a scene.
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>>381959757
>only less dragged out.

Honestly, this makes everything in DBZ and a lot of DB better.
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>>381951291
Beerus is Z, retard
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>>381959923
Boy ain't that the truth.
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>>381959397
Paragus hates Vegeta. The plan was to bring Vegeta to the new planet and have the comet kill him. But it didn't work because Broly's LSSJ state broke free when he saw Goku. The movie isn't really about Goku, it's about dealing with the Legendary Super Saiyan, literally, it's about how that one form fucks everything up, from the Z-Fighters to the original plan in the actual movie.
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>>381959835
NO PWEE PWEE
NO BWEE
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>>381959505
Super is unmitigated garbage.
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>>381959923
>Honestly, this makes 90% of action shonen better.
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>>381944915
Vegeta
Piccolo
Launch NEVER EVER so I guess I'll go with 18 instead
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>>381959505
I like it.
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>>381958382

https://youtu.be/E0vWx9VjGe0?t=41

I love Vegetas lines in this.
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>>381959731
>improving DBZ isn't hard. The Japanese audio is probably the worst out of all dubs.

Can anyone be this wrong?
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>>381958906

>Buu
>Scary

I think you missed the entire point of his character.

He's a goofy guy who is literally just having as much fun as possible. He is not supposed to be scary and the constant reminders that any damage he causes is not permanent is supposed to make that apparent.
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>>381959505
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand dropped
>>
Bulma
Yajirobe
Pilaf
Dream Team
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>>381960217
>these long ass transformations that could be stopped with one punch
Makes me think, imagine going into the fight all cocky and shit about to turn SSJ, but you couldn't get your tingles up and failed it. Must be so embarrassing.
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>>381960120

If you shortened Hunter X Hunter by any significant amount, it would be a lot worse.

Proof is comparing 2011 series to the 90s series.
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>>381960167
If you love and impregnate one of her personalities is that considered NTR?
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>>381960384
Obviously you've not actually listened to it.

I mean, the soundtrack is boring as FUCK, and Goku even sounds like a chick.
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>>381959505
>people hating on this
fucking /v/tards
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>>381960389
uh ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE5INt0-huw
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>>381959505
>Vegeta jobs to this
God damn, at least GT gave him proper enemies.
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>>381960468
can't master roshi do that pressure point shit? he should poke krillin's back for a while to see if anything happens
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>>381960498
The real question is can you impregnate each of them individually? I've found a new fetish
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>>381960526
Well that's because they kept his female VA from Dragonball. Fuck if I know why.

I mean, it's nice of them, because apparently she's an adorable old lady and Dragonball was a nationwide phenomenon, but there comes a point where it just turns silly.
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>>381960583

If that's scary to you then Vegeta and Frieza must have made you shit your pants since they both blew entire planets up just to kill everyone on them
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>>381960498
>>381960670
>>
Supers biggest problem is presentation. Nothing seems to have much impact unless it's a beam or the scene is specifically choreographed with it in mind. With how much of a big deal these new transformation are that they have their own music, you'd think it would carry over to the animation. Where was the shot of everyone being barely able to breathe in the pressure of a ssjg? Where was that shot of buildings being leveled and trunks pissing himself when Black went Rose? Why didn't the ground crystallize as vegito and zamasu fought? Where was anything to show just how incredible these new heights are? Why do we have to measure power merely based on who's sitting out?
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>>381960389
Mr. Buu is the fun, goofy one. Super and Kid Buu are scary as fuck.

>>381960526

More like you haven't. Sure there are some bad tracks, but all the soundtracks have bad tracks, ESPECIALLY Faulconer. And why bring voices into this? We're talking purely ost.
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>>381952826
If you think that game had everybody, then you'd love Budokai Tenkaichi 3
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>>381960526
>the soundtrack is boring as FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm77VCkf_do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6FboEQRRsI
>Goku sounds like a chick
Yeah, she's more or less Goku. Her voice is iconic throughout Dragon Ball's adaptions.
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>>381960489
Not at all, the invasion part of CA dragged like a motherfucker in the anime, mainly because Mad House were trying to delay it as much as possible to see if Togashi could get his act together and at least end the arc before they did.
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>>381960616
>Vegeta jobs to this
wrong
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>>381960468
Hope this happens on the tournament of power (but it won't).
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>>381960743
I dont know how a pink demon laughing maniacally and then blowing up a man from the inside from the most fucked up way possible isnt scary
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>>381960812
hey, frieza's new transformation comes with a lightshow worthy of nappa himself
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>>381960902
Watch. He will, and Vegetafags will commit seppuku.
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>>381960526
>tfw kai and supers Dub are so bad I actually prefer granny goku now
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dlc pack 4 for xenoverse comes out tomorrow right?
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>>381960812

Honestly Dragon Ball is just a pissing contest now.

Nothing feels significant at all. Super feels like a parody of the source material rather than a continuation of it.
>>
I spent the past 2 hours on this, pls r8, and actually read the gameplay style discriptions
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>>381961096
It's mainly Goku and Vegeta that are fucking up kai
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>>381961096
I can understand people not liking nip goku but everyone else's VA is great. I think sabat has gotten worse at his vegeta voice and beerus/whis are pretty bad too.
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>>381961150
Oh shit Uchiyama wtf are you doing?
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>>381961296
>I think sabat has gotten worse at his vegeta voice
Because he's trying to mimic his Jap VA more.

It doesn't really work.
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>>381952492
>naruto costume middle bottom
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>>381956079
I've pretty much come to that realization recently as well. I can only appreciate Dragonball now.
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>>381961296
>beerus/whis are pretty bad too.

Beerus and Whis sound almost like their nip versions. They're fine.
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>>381961150
ebisawa couldnt draw a chin to save his life
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>>381961246
>No Mystic Gohan

Dropped
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>>381961150
I think it's already out. I see videos of it online already.

I heard Dimps jewed people. Super Saiyan Rage Trunks and Corrupted Merged Zamasu are in the story DLC but aren't playable characters.
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>>381961242
>Super feels like a parody of the source material rather than a continuation of it.
That's the point. People who want a serious show got slapped in the face. Akira's getting back to his gag roots and making fun of everything that he was forced to do with Dragon Ball until Buu.
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>>381958382
A very recent one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvEH3BdVtAw
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>>381961246
Janembafags are utterly delusional.

Bardock is far and away the second most popular movie character behind Broly. Also Android 19 and Dabura and Bulma and Launch are never evers, or unlikely in the case of Dabura.
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>>381961448
Read the "b-but why isn't X character in" section.

There's nothing mystic gohan would offer that Goku, Vegeta,Teen gohan, Cell, Trunks, and Gotenks can't already do.
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So we're getting Goku(SSJ1-3)/(SSB) and Vegeta (SSJ1)/(Majin), right? Even if ASW says otherwise this is still a modern DBZ game and that means it'll still end up having dupe characters in.
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>>381961432
whis sounds like an amateur and beerus doesn't have the rolling r's
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>>381961246
Replace Janemba with Tapion and Majuub as the GT rep
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>>381960861
>first video only played once during a tv special
>second only played once and the faulconer version is much better
meh
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>>381959835
NO

TAO

PAI

PAI

I

BUY

BUT

I

CRY
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>>381960498
It'd be closer to rape I think, as only one personality can consent at the time, and the other would have no recollection of getting knocked up.
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>>381961246
Launch is NEVER EVER tier but I'm right there with you. I'd love to see get get in. Her only hope is that that they don't have enough female characters.
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>>381961465
if hackiyama wants to draw gag garbage he should just draw new gag garbage and leave his past works the fuck alone
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>>381961591
>first video only played once during a tv special
And this is a minus because...?
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>>381955271
>Do you think the other fighters are going to care about fair when they team up on you 4 on 1 to knock you out of the ring?
>Do you think your wife and children will care about fair when they are erased from existence because you held on to some stupid selfish ideology because 'muh sayains'

Oh look 2 things that could have happened that may have seen some character growth for Goku and Vegeta that were completely tossed aside. It's like the weight of what will happen when they lose just gets foo-foo'd away instantly as soon as they say anything about it
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>>381961296
English Beerus and Whis are godly.

Jason Douglas and Ian Sinclair are so fucking perfect as them.
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>>381961727
>He takes Dragon Ball seriously
Multiverse is right up your alley.
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>>381961465
And more than half the audience thinks it's shit because of it. Sure it'll get watched beacuse Dragon ball is in th name, but Z will always be loved over it.
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>>381961527
I don't disagree, but this isn't my predictions, it's how I would do it assuming I was still keeping in mind a general audience and not just having it be completely based on my tastes.
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>>381961527
Nah, 18 stands a chance. She's made it in many of the small roster games and they need a lady. Of all the ladies in the franchise, 18 is a lock.
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>>381961246
>18 as rushdown
So fucking obvious yet I couldn't see it. Genius.
>Gotenks Specials unsafe on block, but I assume they are absolutely god-tier if landed after a confirm
>Launch
great, using her guns right? RPG for long range keep away, grenades to replace ki blasts, and shotgun/uzi for mid and short normals?
>#19
Seems like his meter effect sucks. He can't build meter unless he throws and absorbs ki, which means he can't use special supers. Might have to see him in gameplay.
>Dabra with sword for long range and melee for up close
Like it.
>Janemba
Instant buy
>Hit
Good but I could see him having another effect just because he's Hit, but I have no idea what it would be.
>Zamasu
Should be merged by default, other than that, his style is good.
>Yamcha: lol
goat rooster.
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>>381961927
The producer said they'll cater to every fan, so I can't see how no GT characters aren't making it
>inb4 B-but GT has no fans
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>>381961787
My biggest issue with this arc is how little everyone appears to care when the stakes have never been higher. People are going to die by the quadrillion damn it
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>>381961246
>Yamcha: lol
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>>381961746
>only played once
thats why
all of faulconers trunks related tracks are better than the original too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2UEBVY3LLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwDarD--PfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXiaetdU1A0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYzj_r0AQUo
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https://discord.gg/NNntjUS
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>>381961883
Who, the west? Like their opinions matter. Japan knows what works and what doesn't work and if Super was truly shit, it'd have gotten cancelled long ago. The crybabies who think dub Z was some holy grail need a slap in the face. Everyone else got the proper show, but America had to stand out and show everyone how special it was.

The sad part is old habits never die out. They couldn't even stick with Tenshinhan and Kienzan or Makankosappo. After seeing Yu Yu Hakusho and Fullmetal Alchemist, it's a fucking travesty that Dragon Ball couldn't get a proper dub until nearly fifteen years later.,
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>>381962049
>reading
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>>381962129
That Mysterious youth theme got me so hyped as a kid when I saw it on a dbz VHS I bought at walmart
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>>381961150
I remember rewatching Dragon Ball and actively searching for each episode directed by Maeda. He's responsible for some of the most legendary frames in DB and DBZ.
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>>381962049
I guess the only other options for women would be Arale, Mai in her Pilaf robot, Videl or Launch
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>>381962087
I wanted a GT rep but I couldn't justify any of them.

Baby would just be Kid buu, Super 17 has nothing, Omega Shenron has the elemental stuff but that hardly makes him worth having over any of the others.
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>>381961465
The hell are you talking about, Super is nothing like Toriyama's gag manga, at most you've got "filler" like the Arale or the Baseball episode, which are on par with episodes like the driving license in term of sillines, but everything else is still "serious".
Just say it's not as good as Z, don't look for stupid reasons.
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>>381962239
Whoops. Disregard, sorry buddy.
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>>381961246
Only thing you need is SSJ4 Gogeta as a GT rep with KHHx10, Final Shine, and Big Bang KHH, as a DLC.
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>>381961246
I really want to respect opinions, but 19 over 16 is pants-on-head retarded. I would probably main 19 if he played as you describe him, but still.

Also the way you describe Broly & Piccolo is exactly what I want so maybe I'd be okay.
>>
I'm only on episode 23 of Super.

Has Piccolo done ANYTHING worthwhile yet?
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>>381962438

He babysitted Pan.
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>>381962438
He doesn't do anything worthwhile for a while yet.
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>>381956927
Wow, the dub has some seriiously generic background music in addition to just throwing away the jokes in the original dialogue. I'd pity Americunts who grew up with this rubbish if I wan't actually laughing at them.
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>>381962438
>he thinks Piccolo ever does anything worth while in Super
he uses stretchy arms against Frost but then jobs due to poison and gets robbed his victory by Vegeta.
other than that, he's a babysitter. oh and he trains Gohan in like episode 85(around that number)
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>>381962438
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>>381962335
I like Super. I like that the tone is sillier on average. I like what they're doing with the show.

I like that Zfags are getting butthurt over it.
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>>381962226
>Japan knows what works and what doesn't work and if Super was truly shit, it'd have gotten cancelled long ago.
You do know when GT was on the verge of being cancelled, Super 17 Saga came out and got fucking huge ratings, saving GT from the dumpster.

SUPER

17

GOT

HUGE

RATINGS

IN

JAPAN

Japs will literally like anything with the DB name on it.
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>>381944915
I just want shota goku
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>>381962438
>not just watching the movies and skipping ahead
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>Spend the last few years trying to tell friends how great Guilty Gear Xrd looks and plays
>Deaf ears everywhere
>This game gets revealed
>"HOW CAN A FIGHTING GAME LOOK SO MUCH LIKE AN ANIME?!"
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>>381962673
>>381962570
>>381962572
So he's just done for good then. What a shame.

Just throw him another Namek to fuse with or something.
>>
>>381962694
Why is Piccolo so perfect?
>>
>>381962581

>Being snobbish about fucking Dragon Ball Z of all things

It's a fucking entry level shonen.
>>
>>381958382
Lunch sneezing.
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>>381961246
Replace 19 with 16. Pretty sure they're the same model type android. Also 16 has self destruct and rocket punch zone/tech. Perfect choice imo.
>>
>>381962728
And as someone who loves GT, it was getting cancelled anyway. Super isn't in the same position.
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>>381962694
I wouldn't mind Piccolo becoming full time babysitter during the Buu saga and onwards if he was still doing cool shit too but Saiyanwank.
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>>381962824
cheeky
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>>381961465
Super is shit because its shit. The Black arc, which is the most serious arc is probably the worst because of how nonsensical and repetitive it was, and the ending was very asspullish, moreso than Dragonball usually is.

>>381961727
That image probably best personifies Super. This feels like fanfiction and not a legitimate continuation. And future products will always feel like it because the original Dragonball manga was a goddamn fluke.
>>381961868
The current arc is basically Multiverse in how fanficy it feels.
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>>381962581
that was early 2000's dubbing from dbz first came to america
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>>381962869

My most hated thing about all shown is how they create this huge cast of interesting characters, but only ever focus on two.

Every single Shonen does this.
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>>381961246
>Yamcha: lol
>>
>that overly manly Cell voice in latino

https://youtu.be/KK2MdRF3FI8?t=344
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>>381962715
I love the original Dragonball way more than Z, and I can confirm Super is bad because its just bad. Stop looking for shitty reasons to defend it.
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>>381963039
>Multiverse
I think it's good, but I haven't read past page 850 or so, right before Uub starts going Kaioken.
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>>381963039
Multiverse is a now a good example of how you can fuck up the Tournament of Power arc. And gag shows tend to be asspully. Dragon Ball Super is half shonen, half comedy. A good mix to keep things from going too far.
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>>381963071
Yu Yu Hakusho handled the other characters pretty well, at least until that asspull Sensui shit and LOL YUSUKE IS A DEMON NOW.
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>>381962786
If you don't mind the spoiler, the best things he does in Super are teaching Future Trunks the Mafuba technique in a video and training Gohan up to the level he was at against Super Buu, and beyond it.

If you DO mind the spoiler, know that he comes in handy, even if he's not as relevant as he was during, say, the Namek through Cell sagas.
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>>381946674
Kai is generally better, sans young Gohan.

However, most of Vegeta's post-Cell scenes are worse in Kai. And this scene I also prefer in Z.

Honestly a lot of the major moments are better in Z than Kai. Beyond that, though, Kai is generally better.
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>>381963217
Dragon Ball kicks ass. It was great until the timeskip, and gradually lost focus, but still stayed good. Buu went back to the silliness and Super confirmed the lightheartedness to stay permanently. It's not my fault if you thought Dragon Ball was consistent. Most of the story was Toriyama pulling things out his ass to keep it going.

The same applies here.
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>>381963229
Except the asspull was played straight. And it doesn't help both the action and humor are so bad.
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>>381963208
Pretty much every dub sounds at least 20 times more manly than Jap.
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>>381962390
>>381962825
>but 19 over 16 is pants-on-head retarded.

I already explained why. 19 has basically all the same stuff 16 does minus the rocket punch, but also with energy absorbtion as a unique mechanic.

>self destruct
Forgot about this but IMO it still isn't enough to make up for the lack of energy absorbing.
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>>381963551
To each his own. If they're going to tie in the last chapter, they have to make it work somehow. I'm just enjoying the new content rather than whining about powerlevels.
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>>381963071
>Every single Shonen does this.

Gash Bell doesn't. It spends a lot of time focusing on it's side cast.
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>>381963467
>Toriyama lost his touch

Atleast we can agree Super is ass.
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>>381963770
>Gash Bell

Now that was a good fucking series.
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>>381963784
He is an old man with near Alzheimer. Give him a break.
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>>381963646
To be quite honest, 16 is a more popular character, I'm almost positive he can also absorb energy, and rocket punch teching probably has more potential that ki absorption.

Just my personal opinion.
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>>381944915
Freiza
Gohan Buu
Depends on who counts as a heavy character, so maybe 16
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>>381963646
Energy absorption is literally all 19 has. 16 has more specific and distinct moves, from his normal strikes to grabbing people a lot to Rocket Punch, Hell's Flash, and Self Destruct.
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>>381963784
I love Super and hope it never ends.
Tough titty.
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>>381949409
If it's anything like Supersonic Warriors, we're in for a treat.
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>>381950827
Videl could have Jam's chain kick specials if she makes it in.
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>>381964338
but will it be cutscenes? and how accurately will they follow the story?
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I want glass cannon Bardock.

Just does fucking ridiculous damage and combo potential and mobility when you're in but shortest lifebar in the game and if you drop your defense you get railed. I like all or nothing characters and Bardock is the most deathcharge, suicide mission, do or die character in the series.
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>>381964190
>"i like eating turds and i hope i can eat turds forever"
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>>381964817
this, so so badly
arcsys pls
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