Should I play Fallout 3 or New Vegas?

>>381936687

New Vegas, you newfag

>>381936687

New Vegas, you newfag

>>381936687
New Vegas, you newfag

>>381936687
Do you want a turd designed by amateurs or a good rpg

>>381936687
New Vegas, you newfag

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>>381936687
Just gonna leave this here.

>>381936687
New Vegas

People who prefer fallout 3 to New Vegas are mentally challenged.

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>>381936687
>Should I shoot myself in the face or play New Vegas?

>>381936687
If you really need to ask then you should probably kill yourself.

Newfag, you New Vegas

QUICK QUESTION

Will TTW actually not work if I priate both games, or are they just bullshitting on the site?

I can't even sarcastically respond to this

New Vegas, dipshit

Fallout 4 with paid mods

>>381936687
It's called Fallout 3 Goty edition for a reason.
Because it was game of the year unlike new vegas

>>381937123
They're bullshitting, otherwise Beth would C&D them to the moon.

>>381936687
both desu

Oblivion with guns 2: electric boogaloo

Play 3 first, then when you either finish it or get incredibly frustrated at what could've been, play New Vegas

>>381937310
Can you confirm it on your own? If so, then good. I never finished F3 in my life and I kind of want to do so but the things from NV are important to me.

>>381936687
NV. This isn't even a contest.

>>381937425
Try it out yourself you fucking retarded mongrel, you literally have nothing to lose.

You just have to put all FO3 .BSAs in the FNV data folder.

both Fallout 3 is great as long as you got the DLC

3>NV DLC wise

>>381937746
Honest Hearts is better than any of 3's DLC.

>>381937696
I have time to lose actually, my internet connection is really shit and I'm not sure about leaving my pc on overnight just to get the worst fallout up to date.

>>381937890
Honest Hearts was garbage.
Get outta her with your M-mah Joshua Graham bullshit

>>381937275
>thinking that game of the year means something

>>381938021
Honest Hearts was short and fairly nice in my opinion. I liked the areas, Yao Guai (especially that quest when you get drugged up by a shaman and need to kill that fired up Yao Guai I killed it with 3 shots of Dinner Bell to the head anyway), you also get nice items from it and the story of THE Survivalist is really well written.

>>381936687
I too question whether I should eat my own shit or play an RPG.

>>381937746
The only remotely good FO3 DLC is Point Lookout and you know that fucking well faggot.

>>381937986
It WILL work if you still have grey matter in your little brain.

All you need to do is download both games with all DLC (and I mean all in English, don't fucking go and download a fucking Spanish copy). Just go to The Pirate Bay and search "Fallout" and you'll find Mr. DJ repacks.

>>381938729
Thanks nigger, I'll check it out tomorrow then and see how it works.

Can I use an existing save from NV for it, though?

Just play both. You're probably pirating them anyway.

Since this is a New Vegas Thread I need help. Give me a build where luck is the primary focus. Not just a build with 10 luck.

New Vegas > 2 > 1 >>> literal shit >>> 3 >>>>> brutal assrape and torture >>>>> 4

>>381937425
I used a NV copy I owned and a F3 steam copy I grabbed from a friend, just the files that is, and it worked fine.
You just need the files, it doesn't check validity of them or anything.

>>381939137
Does it really matter? Get 8 base luck, one more from implants. 6 perception at most. Do you prefer energy weapons, normal guns, explosives or unarmed/melee, just pick that too and build more around it.

>>381939305
What you just described is a normal run

>>381936687
>Never finished Fallout 3 DLCs
>Can't stand the game anymore
>I'd rather play New Vegas instead
How can i motivate myself to play it? are Fallout 3 DLC worth it?

>>381938863
Just keep in mind the Mr DJ repacks, they're both 6 gigs and they're good to go with no virus and shit.

And I think you can, never tried but I think the site says yes because all that the mod does is just teleport you to the FO3 world and leave the NV one intact (you try, if you run into problems like bugs just start a new game).

>>381937275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqMblpSqhgM

New Vegas, then run Fallout 3 through Tale of Two Wastelands so you can play Fallout 3 while actually playing New Vegas.

>>381939369
Yeah, in fact I finished FNV not long ago fully (50lvl and shit) from the Mr DJ repack version. Downloading F3 now and gonna see if it'll work.

Wondering if adding F3 with all the DLCs will also up the level cap.

>>381937067
Whre did you find this picture of my wife?

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>>381937010
>Almost every location on the map is affecting the story in some way
lol no

>>381936687
1. Install both
2. Download Tale of Two Wastelands
3. Let it convert the Fallout 3 game data to be used with New Vegas
4. Play the Fallout 3 campaign in New Vegas

>>381936687
What a stupid fucking question...... I will pray for you op.....

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>>381936687
>Nu Vegas
Don't

>>381939794
>I loved the original Fallout and Fallout 3

stopped reaidng

>>381937275
Anon I will fucking end you for being that dumb

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>>381939794
What the fuck is this distilled essence of faggotry ?
10/10 you deserved your (you)

Any recommended mods for a first playthrough?

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Reminder that this is the real Fallout 3.

>>381939508
Don't worry it'd fine, just throw all FO3 BSAs and follow the installation process in the TTW site (IF god hates you and you run into problems just do the manual installation).

And no, max level is 50, look around in the FAQ page of the TTW site, there are mods there that increase the level cap.

>>381940083
Project Nevada is good, it adds a lot of simple yet essential things that the base game lacked like sprint or a grenade hotkey, but otherwise I'd say you can really just go vanilla on your first playtrough, I recomant going Sniper for the first time as its by far the easyer build, keep explosives and melee for other playtrough.

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NV

play STALKER instead though

>>381940083
WMX
cig smoking
sackful of hats
fast travel markers (adds some to Vegas itself and other places)
sunglasses shipment
YUP

>>381940083
http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas

>>381940574
Where does one start with STALKER and what mods do I need?

I've not played Fallout 3 or NV, but is this just a contrarian meme or is NV really the superior game? Tell me why without using meme key words or memes in general. Every time I see these 2 games get compared, other than v everyone else overwhelmingly prefer Fallout 3.

Also if I get New Vegas do I need all the doctor?

New Vegas is the real Fallout 3. You should ignore Fallout 3 and 4, they're garbage, they might as well not even exist. New Vegas blows them out of the water and it isn't even a finished game.

Fuck Bethesda.

>>381940786
Meant DLC not doctor. Fuck auto correct.

>>381940786
FNV is better because of

>iron sights
>more choices in quests, more quests in general
>WAY more skill checks so your build actually matters a lot more
>weapon mods
>better DLCs
>more factions
>better radio host

>>381940786
New Vegas has less content, smaller towns, is easier, has generally less and worse DLC, lacks any large dungeons and has more SJW shit tacked on to it. Not to mention the complete absence of any of its own lore to contribute, nearly everything was stolen from Van Buren or 1 and 2. The only good New Vegas DLC's are Honest Hearts and Old World Blues. Old World Blues is what the rest of New Vegas should've been.

>>381939794
>likes FO3
>claims NV tries to be too big
Fucking how. FO3 is an empty wasteland of nothing for miles.

>>381940786
New Vegas has better writing and a much more tightly written script.
The enemies are also more variate and there are no factions whose sole objective is to shoot you aside from Jackals and Vipers. Unlike Talon Mercenaries and Raiders, the previous two ones are much rarer.
Supermutants are scarce because no new mutants are being produced anymore.
It's much more linked to the original 2 games; definitely a direct sequel to Fallout 2.
Everything is interconnected one way or another.
The DLCs are all part of their own storyline that focuses more on your character than the world around them while still keeping the lore alive and interesting.
New Vegas has a lot more of replayablity as well.
Most situations can be solved in various different ways that apply other abilities aside from killing.

All in all, I think it's a vastly superior title and I liked Fallout 3 a lot when I first played it.

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>>381939756
the correct answer

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>>381936687
New Vegas is a notoriously bad game, it didn't even win GOTY unlike Fallout 3. You should definitely purchase the latter, it's the work of genius developers and will serve to entertain you for countless hours. I say this as a fellow absorber of video game entertainment.

>>381941278
2/10 made me reply

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>>381941278
>Old World Blues is what the rest of New Vegas should've been.
>the most similar DLC to FO3 in terms of writing and exploration

Why am I not surprised?

>>381940663
Start with Shadow of Chernobyl, then go onto Call of Pripyat. Play Clear Sky if you want more STALKER, but don't be surprised when it turns out the be the lesser of trilogy. For a first playthrough don't bother with mods, and make sure you play on master difficulty, since the game is balanced around it.

>>381940910
DLCs make the experience a lot better; really recommendable.

>>381941547
>For a first playthrough don't bother with mods
Aren't they all buggy messes though?

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>>381936687
Join the Legion please

>>381941430
haha epic meme, friend! Mind if I post it to /r/Fallout?

>>381941485
Then refute it, I mean you can't but it's worth the attempt.
>>381941525
It also has the most interesting locations, best radio, equipment and lore and the "moral" of the DLC isn't shoved down your throat every other second. It was a departure from the boring slog that was the Mojave, Sierra Madre and Divide. Honest Hearts was also good for the same reasons.

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>>381939794
>I loved the original Fallout, and Fallout 3. I didn't much like Fallout 2, which, in what may or may not be a coincidence, happens have the same designer as New Vegas
>Loved the original Fallout
>But not the second one that is essentially the same shit, with the same fucking theme of humanity rebuilding society again, which can't be said the same of the cartoony story of FO3

fucking hell lad

>>381941897
Maybe if it wasn't so unfinished.

>>381941903
>/v/ has gone so retarded it thinks it's own memes are the work of reddit
I'm getting tired of this place

>>381936687
They're both in the 6-7/10 range, so it really doesn't matter.

>>381940663
Shadow of Chernobyl + http://www.moddb.com/mods/starter-pack

>>381937097
kek

>>381940786
Characters do and say things that make sense in New Vegas

In F3 they don't

>>381941819
>buggy messes
I honestly never had any issues with them desu. Though if you do want to get a bugfix mod just to be careful than get the zone reclamation project, which is just a pure bugfix mod.

>>381936687
You shouldn't listen to any of these faggots and play a tale of two wastelands. It links both games so you can beat them both on a single character .

Fallout 3 for open world, archetypal Fallout 'emerge from the vault quest'.

Fallout New Vegas for convoluted plots with morally grey choice, interesting NPCs, and arguably Obsidian's Magnum Opus.

>>381941984
>It also has the most interesting locations, best radio, equipment and lore and the "moral" of the DLC isn't shoved down your throat every other second. It was a departure from the boring slog that was the Mojave, Sierra Madre and Divide. Honest Hearts was also good for the same reasons.
The Big MT is a great and interesting location plagued with other small great and interesting locations, and finding the traces of Elijah, Christine and Ulysses was a ton of fun. I do not deny that.
Radio Station is a more subjective matter.
The equipment is completely over the top, but it's still well integrated into the lore and setting, so no complains there.
Hell, I love OWB. It's a great DLC. But the rest of the game is just as interesting for me. OWB is mostly about exploration and comedy; the story is very easily glanced over and superficial. Most of OWB's story is about DM and LS.
The moral of the old world blues is repeated quite a bit and it's pretty hammered in, though. The members of the Think Tank are literally named after loops of people who are trapped in the past, for crying out loud.

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>>381942481
>Obsidian's Magnum Opus.
*blocks your path*

>>381939794
Fucking hell i hate those people who have to be spoon fed the fucking story or they are lost for the rest of the game.

>>381942626
>The moral of the old world blues is repeated quite a bit and it's pretty hammered in, though
Not nearly to the extent Dead Money and Lonesome Road do it though. They even inserted the "Begin Again" song into the Mysterious Broadcast to hammer the "message" in even after you finished DM. The morals of OWB aren't forced on you through scripted dungeon crawls or conversations, you can divulge them yourself, that's what I liked about it, even if ultimately "Old World Blues" and "Letting Go" was a recurring theme through most of the DLC's.

So we can all agree Dead Money was the best DLC of all time, right?

>>381943097
In DM you see people who wrecked their lives and other people's through their obsessions. That is pretty subtle too as you keep finding out more and more about the characters you are forced to work with. The only moment I feel they emphasized the message was in the ending slide and with the gold stack. Aside from that, it was pretty spread out throughout the DLC.
Maybe I'm not as bothered by this as you, but that's how I see it.
The music player in the Sink does delve into the Old World Blues, Mobius does as well and the ending slides go on and on about it. I'd say it's as hammered in as in DM, which isn't that much.

As for LS, I'm not even sure what the lesson was. That a man can change the fate of a nation? That symbols are less important than the men who carry them? Honestly, it's been a while.

>>381943672
Gameplay wise it was alright for me.
The story was masterfully crafted though.

>>381943672
yeah it was like Operation: Anchorage tier of good.

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>>381939794
>DID YOU NOTICE that I JUST ELIMINATED THE ENTIRE EVIL ARMY AND ITS LEADER?

and?

>>381943672
of course

>>381943975
So... Disgustingly awful?

>>381940786
>I've not played Fallout 3 or NV, but is this just a contrarian meme or is NV really the superior game?
As far as gameplay is concerned, New Vegas is pretty much an objective upgrade to 3. It has all around more content and its RPG mechanics are better designed. Neither is anywhere near perfect, but NV is definitely a step forward.
For writing quality, New Vegas completely blows 3 out of the water. The shortest way to explain it is to say that NV is a good sequel, and Fallout 3 isn't. New Vegas takes elements from the earlier games, shows how they've changed over time, and develops them while still adding new ideas to the series. Fallout 3 rehashes fations and plot points from earlier games, but doesn't really get what made them interesting. Instead of expanding on the series, Fallout 3 dumbs it down by making the factions and characters completely one-note caricatures of themselves.
>Also if I get New Vegas do I need all the DLC?
No, but all of the DLC together pretty much doubles the game's content. FNV Ultimate Edition is dirt cheap on steam, so if you're thinking about buying NV you may as well get the DLC with it.

is the game itself relatively bug free now or should i get a bugfix mod?

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You should play fallout 4

>>381944287
Don't be lazy and get the mod just to be sure. Besides, it's free; you really have no excuse not to get them.

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dump time

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>>381944404

>>381936687
Old world blues > honest hearts > lonesome road > dead money


Point lookout > the pitt > broken steel > operation anchorage


My opinions are fact.

>>381944537
What's wrong with Operation Anchorage?

>>381944537
I liked the Pitt better. The setting was more interesting and the dilemma was actually compelling.

>>381944625
The game turns exclusively into a FPS in an engine that is definitely not made for it.

>>381944625
Too linear and mostly just combat.

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>>381944523

>>381944537
Dead Money > Honest Hearts > Old World Blues > Lonesome Road
Point Lookout > The Pitt

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>>381936687
Depends.

Do you want to play a shitty shooting game, or an RPG with mediocre shooting mechanics (basic mechanics I mean) but a huge capability to play as you want?

>>381944625
Not him but it was basically an on-rails shooter DLC. There were a few holotapes and terminal entries scattered about but it was mostly boring and linear. Best thing about it was the reward for beating it. Chinese Stealth Armour in FO3 is probably the best armour in the game, not to speak of the Gauss Rifle and Winterised Power Armour.

>>381944873
I'm not trying to be rude but I really don't know how anyone can like dead money

>>381944871
Fallout is post post nuclear though, that image is fundamentally wrong by calling them post nuclear.

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>>381944871
also here some shit about f4 if you wanna know

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>>381939735
>start game
>immediately slaughter everyone in Goodsprings and make my way to Primm
>No one in Primm pays me any mind
>Begin Exe. 69, round 2

NO ONE LEFT TO WARN THE OTHERS OF THE COMING FIRE

NO SURVIVORS

>>381944973
I like the challenge and the world of it all. It's clearly not for everybody, though.

>>381944979
Fallout is Post apoc. Fallout 2, and NV are Post Post Apoc

>>381939137
Lucky Luke

>>381937010
Woah, you're telling me that obsidian entertainment that didn't exist until 2003 made fallout 1, 2 and BoS in the last 90s? Kill yourself.

>>381945135
Same. The story makes it all worth it as well and I don't mind the difficulty that much.

>>381945273
are there some details on this run?

>>381937010
Having a slightly different slideshow clip at the end of the game isn't a different ending. Whoever made this is a fucking tool.

>>381944979

Fallout 1 and 2 literally say "A Post Nuclear Role Playing Game" on their box art.

>>381945275
well, they are made up of ex- black isle people

>>381945307
have a revolver and be a lucky cowbow ;)

About to play the New Vegas, what are the order of the DLCs and when should I play them?

>>381942270
>make you wish for a nuclear winter
Sure.

>>381944973
It's an interesting setting, with obstacles that aren't just guys with guns. An "antagonist' who is worth listening to unlike Ulysses and it has better progression than old world blues.
It and Lonesome Road are the only DLC where your actions really mattered as Honest Hearts and Old World Blues are both self contained and Honest hearts in particular probably would've resolved itself without your intervention anyway.

>>381946024
They're actually all connected. I don't really think the order you play matters too much but release order is dm, hh, owb, then lr. So probably that.

>>381946024
Release order for the first time if you want to play it save.
DM -> HH -> OWB -> LS

After that, you can get creative.
My favorite order is
HH -> DM -> OWB -> LS

And the last one I did was
HH -> OWB-> DM -> LS

LS should always go at the end, although I remember an anon in a thread long ago who made a pretty good argument as to why playing DM last made sense thematically speaking.

>>381945275
It's the people that matter, not the name of the company they're employed by.

>>381946109
How did your actions in DM matter more than in HH and OWB?

>>381946364
Did Avellone work on New Vegas?

>>381946459
Releasing the gas cloud on the Mojave is pretty substantial.

>>381945652
That means neither game has any differences in the endings and New Vegas still wins due to the better quests.

>>381946564
Yeah, but the game ends right there if you do it. While you can consider it a canon ending for your Courier if you want it, it still does't really affect the main game because you can't get to experience the effects afterwards. Hell, I'd say OWB has a greater impact thanks to the teleporter to the Big MT and the Sink; providing the player with a new home seems more substantial to me than an ending that cuts the story short.

>>381940786
Fallout 3 does one thing better than New Vegas: more of the locations are shooting galleries packed with enemies, such as the National Mall. Most of New Vegas' major locations aren't just enemy hives.

Ultimately Fallout 3 expects you to play it like a modern Bethesda sandbox where the entire game universe is built around sucking your dick. It also falls into the binary karma system a lot of games from that period suffered from. New Vegas treats itself as an actual oldschool RPG.

>>381946486
Yes. The entire Ulysses plot is his work.

>>381945883
>>381946364
It says obsidian worked on the games, not the people that work at obsidian. That's like saying walmart made UTZ chips because one of their workers used to work there.

>>381945003
Didn't Virgil want to be human again because his mind was starting to slip? I vaguely recall him mentioning becoming more aggressive and having a harder time remembering things.

>>381947154
New vegas has a karma system and the faction shit didn't matter at all if you had all the faction specific armors and didn't go on a killing rampage against one of them.

>>381947137
>it still does't really affect the main game because you can't get to experience the effects afterwards.
It changes the outcome of the west from the standard NCR vs Legion pissing match to something different, that's the biggest effect you could have.
Just because you don't experience New Vegas after the Battle of Hoover Dam it doesn't mean that the faction you choose is irrelevant.

>>381948425
It does have an effect, but since the game ends right there it's not really what the developers intended you to do, though.

>>381948045
My point still stands. New Vegas has less enemy hive locations and the faction system resultsed in much more open quests outside of Fallout 3's binary cunt/saint quest options.

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>>381943672
no

>>381943975
haha epic meme!

>>381948669
If they didn't intend for people to do it, they wouldn't have added it.
Besides even if that was the case, I fail to see how that's a problem in a sandbox rpg.

>>381944871
Oughta change the Fallout 3 logo from green stain to piss stain like the default filter

Can I play NV if I haven't played any fallout game?

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>>381941043
>>better radio host
My man

>>381950290
This picture never fails to crack me up.

>>381946081
>soldiers say dumb shit
Wanna know how you've never been in the army?

>>381950290
>when you discover who voices Mr New Vegas
crazy shit

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>>381936687

Just play both, they aren't expensive.

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>>381939794
>someone actually spent time writing this
>they actually think this way

>>381945652
What? Of course it is

why are people still posting the "New vegas was a good game" meme?

New vegas never should have existed

>>381937010
Some of those factions are mentioned only. And who gives a shit about minigames? Seriously, is it really that much of a plus to have slots and blackjack?

>>381952291
The original games had them.

Nv > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4

In my opinion anyways.

I recently made a build going max unarmed,luck and stealth, with 50 explosives, but im starting to realise that the stealth is kinda useless after almost getting the main to past 75, that and I can't actually sneak up behind anyone unless i remove my armor.

should I stick with the stealth, or start over from scratch again?

>>381952701
Don't you have that perk that allows you to walk without making a sound?

>>381952812
don't think I unlocked that yet, I know its 80 stealth, but im only level 11 so far

>>381952889
After getting that one, which I think is 60 stealth, sneaking around becomes incredibly easy and effective.

>>381949959
Yes, anything you really need to know is explained in-game.
At most, you'll maybe wonder what people are talking about when they mention the Enclave or a guy called "the master". They're bad guys from Fallout 1 and 2 and they're dead now, so that's really all you need to know about them.

>>381952475
Who gives a shit?

>>381953658
I do.

>>381936687
Both.

>>381953720
Its a really minor feature that adds nothing to the game. The only important changes from 3 to NV are the branching storyline, better companions, and ironsights.

>>381952701
>>381952889
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Silent_Running
Is your agility below 6?

>>381953916
Vegas without gambling wouldn't be Vegas.

>>381952014
Neither should your shitty opinion, and yet somehow it persists.

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>>381937010
Just gonna leave this right here.

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>>381939794
>bitching about the karma system in New Vegas
Fucking hell it was even fucking worse in Fallout 3.
I could shoot a guy in the head in the middle of a fucking bar with children around and I would gain karma due to him being a """Bad guy"""
>inb4 he was trying to blow up the town
Maybe the retards at beths "writing" department shouldn't have made a group of fucking people worship a fucking bomb.

>>381937010
I can't believe you listed factions that you can't even join, when in fact the only faction you can officially join is NCR.

I really wanted to like 3 for its atmosphere, but the writing is utter horseshit. There's the illusion of your character having moral choices, but in reality, the game makes every effort to push you into the arms of the Brotherhood, which is played up as being completely infallible. As far as Fallout lore goes, the Brotherhood is arguably one of the most evil factions in the game.

NV gets it right. There really are no "good" factions, except maybe the Followers. But they're only a minor faction and don't have any role in the Hoover Dam plot. NV also had a lot more in the way of characterization. e.g. You could take a perk to make your character gay, which opened up more dialogs with select NPCs. Fallout 3 just had you as a generic, soulless puppet to advance the Brotherhood's agenda. There was little you could do in the way of giving your character a personality.

>>381954426
I was confused why the children of Adam were back in 4

>>381936687
New Vegas you autistic ape

>>381952291
Yes, gamble and play game with other NPC are always good.

2 > 1 > NV >>> Tactics >> 3 >>>>> 4 > BoS

>>381952495
>>381955216
How hard is it to get into 1 and 2 if I don't have much experience with 90s era cRPGs?

>>381954308
Well you are a courier.

>>381955115
Bethesda is creatively bankrupt. I also think they want to set up their own fallout universe but considering that most with half a brain see how bad it really is.
>>381955379
Id stay away from it until you try some other 90's rpgs
The game is great but the opening part with the temple of trials is fucking bullshit.

>>381955379
Depends on how much you like turn-based combat. The games have definitely aged, but not nearly as bad as some other cRPGs.

>>381955508
>Id stay away from it until you try some other 90's rags
Any recommendations?

>>381955460
>it's OK when Obsidian does it

>>381957281
not even him but even a simple quest that involves dialogue as well as a speech check or two rather than just mindless shooting is better than
>go to x
>kill y
>return to z
Though this argument applies mostly to Fallout 4, not Fallout 3. I actually really liked Fallout 3 but whatever.