Nintendo karma

>>381912103
>Apple starts by stealing Nintendo's sales
>now stealing Nintendo's parts

Apple really hates Nintendo.

>>381912103
>release a glorified memory stick with 20+1 SNES games to maintain a steady profit flow

>>381912103
>artificial demand
How would that benefit anyone besides scalpers?

>>381912427
It's what happens when a the only person at Nintendo who cared about games dies, and gets replaced by a businessman. Not long now till they complete their full transformation into capcom and konami.

>>381912735
>gets replaced by a businessman
that's what happens when you end up losing a shit load of money with a failing console as well as dying

>>381912704
>How would that benefit anyone
it doesn't, is just le shitty new meme

>before
the switch isnt facing shortages, its just artificial
>now
HAHAHAH SWITCH IS DEAD THERES SHORTAGES

uh huh. what did /v/ mean by this?

>>381912960
Yeah because having the same console released twice with the same games but with 90% of the budget wasted on advertisement is sooo much better.

>>381913228
Sounds like 2 completely different people out of the 100,000 browsing /v/ right now.

Ah, so this is how you plan to continue the artificial scarcity myth

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>>381913228
>going into your first holiday with no units on the shelf

I'm sure Nintendo is feeling real bullish right now.

>>381912103
Is their any other benefit from creating artificial demand besides making your console look popular?

>>381913535
No. That's why nobody does it, not even Nintendo

>>381912704
>>381913021
It creates high demand for your products, people are less likely to put off on buying one and want one as fast as possible or they miss out

>>381913480
Oh no, you're retarded. you think the shortages mean Nintendo has literally ZERO components? Of course not, they already projected 10M sales, so they have at least that much. It's what comes after that is causing the shortages.

What does "artificial demand" mean? Are they hypnotizing people into thinking they want them?

>>381913625
Nope.

>>381912271
Yes. Because apple just started producing mobile phones when they saw the switch reveal.

>>381913869
>Nintendo DS 2004
>iPhone 2007
Hmm

>>381913673
Nice argument retard.

>>381913668
If something is sold out because there was only 3 units, that is artificial demand. OMG IT'S SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE, EVERYONE HAS ONE CAUSE THE DEMAND IS SO HIGH.
See? You must be underage if you can't figure this one out yet

>>381914052
I thought that was "artificial scarcity." But now that we know the scarcity is real, it must be the demand that's artificial?

Why they call it Nintendo switch? Because when women see it they switch off any interest in you

>>381914040
I'm tired of arguing with you idiots. You're the epitome of people who think their little knowledge makes them an expert. You have an elementary school level knowledge of business and economics, so nothing anyone tells you will ever matter, because you're too ignorant to process it

>>381913365
not really, but what I'm saying is, it's just a business decision in the end
when things go bad, they have to do shit like this otherwise they end up getting fucked
I have no idea why they didn't just make a stronger console when the competition did, with gimmicks included
they still have their exclusives and they'd look better too
otherwise, I'm still happy with the games they make
but I'm not retarded and buying the console with no new games yet
I'm picking it up for Splatoon 2

>>381913625
Anon, "artificial" demand means people aren't able to buy a product even if they want it.

>>381914640
Which makes it more desirable

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>pull anti-consumer moves like DMCA'ing Metroid 2 and claim it's "within your rights"
>be surprised when Apple does the same thing

That is some delicious irony.

>>381914894
You are comparing apples and oranges.

>>381914386
Not a argument

>>381914894
>Hogging components is the same thing as enforcing copyright

>>381914994
>apple, the company
>orange as in Samus's suit

LIKE POETRY.

>>381914793
How does that help when people can't even buy it from Nintendo? It only helps scalpers. They ceased production of the NES Classic, only scalpers got money from the lack of units.

Artificial scarcity is a ok when Nintendo does it.

Actual material scarcity is bad when Nintendo experiences it

>>381915238
It doesn't. Captain retard doesn't realize Nintendo doesn't make money without selling things.

He has a degree in Economics though.

If you want a switch order it from Poland literally no one bought the first shipment yet. T. Auchan worker

>>381915108
They're both legal in the eyes of the law, right?

>>381915290
Typical neoga/v/ here as usual ha in victim complexes color me surprised, I agree

>>381915238
Nintendo makes money faster like this, then wait a few months for another shipment and it sells out instantly too

>>381913535
You spend less on storage.

How come people actually believe in artificial scarcity?

>>381914894
Copyrights and components are completely different.
Plus if you don't enforce your copyright you flat out lose it. If Nintendo didn't shut down that fan game, then they permanently lose the Metroid property. This is why Disney will make preschools get rid of unlicensed drawings of Mickey Mouse or other characters. It's not because they're inherently terrible people, it's because they could lose that property if they don't.

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>>381915603
And just like that, you instantly lose the argument by lying to my face.

>>381915603
So what apple is doing is illegal? Nintendo should totally sue them.

>>381915513
>Nintendo makes more money if they sell less consoles
That doesn't make any sense, especially because the best selling games on Nintendo consoles are first party games and less consoles mean less games sold.

How many people bought ps4 or xbox because switch was sold out? Gg nintendtards

>>381916013
Look at it like this, would you rather sell a million in a day or a million over the course of months

>>381916179
a day obviously retard

>/v/ defending phoneshitters literally killing the vidya industry.

>>381916179
I'd rather sell ten million, and limiting supply prevents that

>>381916174
Xbox and ps4 were already out for years, people wanting a switch probably already got one of the other consoles

>>381916365
Having more supply decreases interest in it

>>381915513
>Nintendo makes money faster by slowing down how soon people can buy their stuff
/v/ really believes this

Source on this? Seem like a rumor honestly.

>>381916008
>buying things is illegal

>>381916493
Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. Go ahead and post proof for that bullshit, though, I'd love to see you try

>>381912103
>artificial demand
source please.

>>381912103
Completely forgot the switch has a 32gb harddrive. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>381915603
>Plus if you don't enforce your copyright you flat out lose it.
Anon, what? Where the fuck did you hear that?

Artificial scarcity for luxury goods is marketing not economics. Poor little timmy won't be able to play the new Zelda for his birthday because of scalpers and the feelings he associated with Nintendo are negative now. Gg Nintendo

>>381916671
Look at how many people are trying to buy one as fast as possible

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>tfw no one is giving a shit about switch and it's just getting dust on the shelves

>>381916739
It's true, sort of. It happened to Xerox

>>381915886
You're right, I was thinking of trade marks that you have to defend.

>>381916649
Buying certain drugs is illegal. I don't see your point.

>>381916789
Can you prove that any of the people looking to permanently own it wouldn't have otherwise? Let alone a significant margin of them? Of course not, because you're an idiot with no data

>>381916789
And not being able to because there aren't enough units. Which means Nintendo is making less money than they could. How does that help them?

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>>381916179
>>381916493

>>381917020
More units means a less demand to buy one as soon as possible thus meaning Nintendo makes less money

>>381916887
>memory and LCDs are drugs now

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>>381917234
Still no source on that bullshit

>>381917345
Source is on human behaviour

>>381917234
>More units means a less demand to buy one as soon as possible
Because people are buying it. Which means more money for Nintendo and more games sold.

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>>381917414
>he's so stupid he actually thinks this is a source

>>381917419
People won't be buying it though, if there was more than most people would wait to buy later on holiday

>>381917646
No they wouldn't. Human nature dictates they would buy it now

>>381917621
Wow you posted a anime reaction image, that totally changed my mind!

>>381916808
You mean xerox"ing" becoming synonym with copying something? They didn't lose the trademark because of that, not to mention that it's a completely different case; the word was in danger of becoming a proprietary eponym, meaning other copying machines could say they "xeroxed stuff". It would be the same as Nintendo becoming so linked with "playing videogames" that the worlds because interchangeable and thus other brands could say they had nintendo consoles (when they meant they had videogame consoles, or consoles that played videogames). It doesn't work the same way for other types of copyrighted property.

>>381917760
Why buy now if they had a shit ton of constant supply?

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>>381917771
I start posting anime when it's obvious the other person is too stupid to take seriously. If you ever post a real argument maybe I'll stop

>>381917867
Why buy later if you can have it now? Why do anything at all? I'll just say it's human nature and leave it at that, because that's a good source

>>381917898
>u stupid, i don't need argument

Very mature for your age kiddo

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>Plus if you don't enforce your copyright you flat out lose it.
That's trademarks, not copyrights.

>>381917840
*that the words became interchangeable

Sorry when typing out something quickly I always mess up. Anyway, does the parts being chugged by Apple have a source or is it just a rumor?

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>>381918030
>even when he knows I'm just shitposting he can't stop replying

lol Nintendo didn't artificially create Switch shortages, they didn't expect it to sell as well as it has.

>>381917996
>Why buy later if you can have it now?
People save money, buy as a present for someone else, might not be interested at the moment, spending money on other products

>>381915513
There never was another shipment of NES Classics, they made a single production run and that was it.

>>381918287
Yeah but I said it's human nature to do it. Can't argue with that can you?

>all of these dumbasses not understanding how Artificial Scarcity works

Dumb toddlers, listen up, why in the hell would you just manufacture millions of consoles when you don't know if they are going to sell? if you don't manage to sell all of them they are going to sit in whatever shithole you're selling them. Doing this you can sell these small batches and the people that don't manage to buy one will be eager to get one in the next batch, and they won't be manufacturing consoles that will collect dust because no one buys them, it's playing it safe.

>>381918243
they ship them 5 at a time according to the employees at toys r us. it's like the furby craze except everyone sees through it and it will damage the brand.

>>381918102
Yep, and I admitted that I was thinking of the wrong thing here >>381916831 but people are still arguing over it

>>381918454
What you have described is literally, by definition not artificial scarcity

>>381918323
Cause these classics systems aren't a future product to get heavily invested it

You make a profit from the first sale and thats it, no money from game sales or game services like Xbox Live

It's almost like actual important technology takes precedence over children's toys...

>>381918395
Not a argument

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>>381912103
>apple ends PC last decade
>this decade they will END nintendo
can anyone stop them?

>>381918657
That's correct, nothing you've presented in this thread had been an argument, least of all claiming human nature as a source

>>381918576
didn't you see that commercial with the hipster chick and young professional wahooing on the plane!?

>>381918550
Doesn't mean it's not pathetic

>>381918748
Still no argument

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>>381912103

Is there a single fact to back up this "artificial demand" or is it just something that's popular because it can neither be proven or disproved?

>>381912103
>artificial demand
You're literally an autistic delusional retard. Stopped reading there. Fuck off back to gamefaqs.

>>381918817
No, that one was an argument actually. By your own admission, human nature isn't an argument, therefore you've undermined your own points. Feel free to try again, I've got nothing better to do

>>381914894
>DMCA'ing a game just after it's been made public on the Internet just to save face and protect your copyright, especially with your own remake of the same game on the way, while not actually fucking the fans over since the game is out there and infinitely reuploadable everywhere
>"""anti-consumer"""
You're fucking retarded

>>381918909
Nothing, notice the OP tried to shift away from the "artificial scarcity" lie into another lie because he too stupid to nderstand INDUSTRY WIDE SHORTAGES.

Now watch as the retard strawmans or call me a "nintenbro" because his argument falls apart at the slightest scrutiny.

>>381918706
>can anyone stop the company that will probably be worth a trillion dollars within the next 5 years

>>381918937
Look kid, you got to understand people want things that considered more rare

And then you got to understand these classic systems aren't highly investable and see why Nintendo doesn't make large units of these

>>381919264
No, no one can stop Apple

>>381919296
If you can't prove that a significant number of people are purchasing it because if its rarity, then you have no point. You have an unsupported theory, and that's worthless

Computer hardware manufacturing must be walking ejaculation for China.

>>381913979
He said SWITCH you idiot

>>381919487
Right, no one wants them cause they are short supply, the real reason must be chemicals in the water

>>381919763
It is equally likely that they want them for Starfox 2. Or for the Wii compatible controllers. Or for an easy plug and play emulator. If you want to assert your reason is the reason it's selling, you have to prove it and you're completely incapable of doing so.

>>381919947
Prove those are the reasons

>>381919687
>>Apple starts by stealing Nintendo's sales
>>now stealing Nintendo's parts
no, he did not. the other anon assumed that the original anon was only referring to the Switch

>>381920084
I don't have to,I just have to prove there are other options, which I did. I'm not choosing any one particular reason, you are. The burden of proof is on you

>>381920304
You have to prove the reasoning for these other options

>>381920445
Bro, this is sad. Is deflection literally all you have left? You're the one making an assertion, the border to prove it is on you. These are the basics of argumentation. Either offer proof or admit you have none

>>381920680
>NES mini sells out instantly
>WOW WHY WOULD PEOPLE WANT A LIMITED SNES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE NOW, MUST BE THAT STAR FOX 2

kk

>>381920932
Yep, it's one of many possibilities. Do you have proof it's mainly because of scarcity?

>>381918498
lol

you ARE a retard

>>381921172
I want one cause of limited supply, good enough proof for you?

>>381912103
>artificial demand

Stop getting your information from GameStop employees. That is the only chain that gets absurdly low stock. Other places get decent stock but the demand is always bananas. Especially for the original Wii.

Nintendo can't predict demand, basically.

>>381921203
thats a mean thing to say. why am i a retard?

>>381914894
this, fuck nintendo

>>381912735
>iwata
>caring about games

>>381912271
Nintendo actually ripped-off Apple's hardware designs for the Gamecube and GBA so it works out.

>>381918909
The artificial demand rumors are because of GameStop. Nintendo and GameStop have terrible relations so Nintendo always sends them Preorder stock and nothing else. In turn, all their employees parrot the same tired bullshit about Nintendo creating artificial demand when usually a customer can go to the nearest Best Buy and still find stock.

Certain items, like the Amiibos and the NES Classic have suspiciously low numbers either way but also have insane demand.

>>381921336
No, of course not. On top of not understanding burden of proof, you think anecdotal evidence has value? How can you know none of the basics?

>>381921683
[Citation needed]

And no, similar designs in a similar time period is not ripping off designs by itself.

>>381921408
I work at Walmart and basically this is true, we get Switches in all the fucking time but they're gone by the end of the day. GameStop is actually holding back what they have to sell in bundles ect.

>>381912704
It gets people talking about your system, and word-of-mouth advertising is invaluable. It also serves to get people hyped up.
Ideally you would have them come back into stock right before a major release or holiday season, by which time you've whipped the consumer base into a frenzy with your faggotry

>>381921861
Yeah the Walmart near me has Switches in surprisingly often. They had NES Classics on the regular too until April.

Toys R Us oddly enough seems to get and keep decent stock. Got several Amiibos there I couldn't find anywhere else.

>>381921731
Just go look at others opinions of other websites and forums to see what the main reasons are, and see how the complain they wont be able to get one

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>>381912704
>>381913021
>>381913625
>>381913673
>>381914040
>>381914386
>>381914640
PRO TIP it's because after the self inflected failure that was the Wii U Nintendo had zero confidence in a new system and didn't want to commit to something that had zero guarantees also because most scalpers are NoA employees.

>>381922162
I did, they're very excited about Starfox 2

>>381922013
This only works if they later make more stock available. If this was true the NES Classic wouldn't have been discontinued in April with about 40 extra units making it to stores.

Also it's incredibly short sighted. It turns away customers. Already people are talking about how they won't be able to get an SNES Classic. At some point negative press is just negative press.

>>381922314
It doesn't actually work even if you make stick available later, you still lose sales. That's why nobody actually does it. I don't understand how /v/ continues to fall for it

>>381922441
(I'm the guy you replied to) Yeah. I think it can have a steroid-like effect on sales if used very precisely, but I agree with your overall point.

And yeah /v/ falls for it because it has that just-smart-enough sound to it. Where it goes against intuition but still makes sense. Also I still say everyone else on here just gets their info from idiot GameStop employees.

>>381917840
>You mean xerox"ing" becoming synonym with copying something?
no, xerox invented the modern GUI based OS, steve jobs saw a demo and ripped it off wholesale for macos but xerox never did anything about it

>>381912103
> Clear reason the shortage wasn't artificial the whole time
> HAH NOW IT WAS ARTIFICIAL AND THIS IS KARMA

That's not how shortages work