Admit it /v/

And Dawn is even better.

>>381911049
Name 1 (ONE) reason why Dawn is better than Aria

>>381911049
Why the fuck does Dawn have a boring ass RPG when Aria has a FUCKING POSITRON RIFLE. I need to play Aria anyway, but that just makes me want to play it more

>>381911049
Dawn is shit because grinding is required to uncover 100% of the map.

>>381911049
>soul farming
>shit art
>touch screen QTEs
>worse castle
>worse final boss

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>>381910652
>This is better than SOTN
it's true

SOTN is great but also an unbalanced mess

>>381910652
agreed

>>381910652
>This is better than SOTN
Looks like shit and plays like ass in comparison with SOTN.

>>381915084
nah

>>381910652
Final boss is shit.

all post sotn games are better than sotn
that doesn't mean sotn is bad, they were just trying something new and it didn't get polished till later titles

>>381912996
that weapon is way too easy to find for how powerful it is

>>381911049
fpbp

>>381912540
>grinding is required to uncover 100%
the same applies to every metroidvania

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Admit it, /v/. This is better than those dull backtracking games.

>>381915751
Wrong. Dawn and Curse of Darkness are the only two that do it.

>>381910652
Another downside is you have to grind to fight the true final boss.

Does anyone actually like the inverted Castle? I've played through sotn once a year and I usually stop after the first half because of how boring the second map is. Constantly having to use the bat form isn't fun.

>>381911829
More variety in weapons and souls.

sotn, cotm and ooe are the top 3 castlemanias

>>381911829
Dat opening stage theme senpai:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2u22EgPbjQ&list=PL5ED058FCFDB8D4ED&index=5

And Order of Ecclesia is the best of all

>>381916052

It's not great. Playing it the first time isn't so bad, though. Subsequent play-throughs tend to end before actually getting to Dracula, partially because the difficulty is completely nuked by then.

>>381916173
>not the superior opening stage theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVjvSY5KVWA

>>381916052
I like it, I thought its was cool to go through the thing upside down with stronger enemies and bosses.

>>381916124
OoE is trash and so are the people who like it.

>>381916052
Only real problem with it is Final Toccata everywhere.

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>>381916124
Super Castlevania IV wipes the floor with all 3 of those.

>>381912540
so just like aria then?

>>381916124
>cotm and ooe
i want retarded edgelords to leave

>>381910652
agreed.

>>381916514
Different enough. Aria's drop rates are higher while also giving you 1/3rd of the requirement for the real ending for free.

>>381916052
It's a bit annoying yeah, I mainly used bat to get a bit of extra height on jumps, I don't think I flew around with it that much. It's not that bad I wouldn't say cause you have all your abilities, but it's certainly a bit annoying.
>>381916124
Not played the GBA ones, but SoTN followed by OoE are definitely my favourite of the metroid style ones

>>381915890
you must really like fart noises

>>381916295
>not the even more superior version
soundcloud.com/blaketothefuture/castlevania-dawn-of-sorrow

DORK METAMORPHOSIS

>>381915890

they should have ported it to the SNES D:<

>>381916727

Also you don't have to sacrifice souls just to get weapons that aren't shit. The soul weapon crafting system really killed it for me in Dawn.

>>381910652
>no richter mode
no??????

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Admit it /v/, this game wasnt that bad.

>>381916295
Superior castle opening theme coming trough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyXRV7wkeyo&spfreload=10

>>381917042
i played through it pretty recently and it's a decent game, the biggest problem with it is that the camera is just horrible

>>381910652
I also like AoS a lot but there is no way in hell that it is better than SotN.

Top three goes like this:
1-SotN
2-OoE
3-AoS

>>381916503

That game is a master piece. The franchise is split into 2 types, linear and metroidvania.

C IV is the king of the linear games while SOTN is the kind of the metroidvanias.

it is not fair to put them up against each other, they are to different.

>>381916052
I'd be okay with it if the ceilings were actually made to be floors later. Or at least tweaked so you could actually fucking jump between them. Constant bat forming is fucking maddening.

>>381917312
Just gravity jump.

>>381916957
>The soul weapon crafting system really killed it for me in Dawn.
I don't think it's that bad in isolation as it was my first CV game, but having played SoTN since (and OoE to a small extent) finding weapons around the place is pretty fun, but you don't really get that in Dawn which looking back on it is pretty lame.

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>>381917612
I would rather the soul+weapon mechanic had been more interesting than simply upgrading a thing from one tier to the next.

E.g, weapons are still found normally but infusing them with the correct souls will give them special traits like shooting projectiles, temporarily turning weaker enemies into allies, unique critical attacks etc.

Imagine how badass it would have been to infuse the kaiser knuckle with the fish head's fireball causing the flurry of punches to toss out a hail of fireballs with each attack.

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>fight Julius
>he uses Grand Cross
>castle starts crumbling down on the background

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>>381918256
Why is Soma the flyest protagonist ever?

>>381918914
The pimp coat

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>>381910652
I prefer Harmony of Dissonance.

>>381918615
man, that was the best moment in the game for sure

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post yfw you did the high jump for the first time

>>381916052
Interted Castle is fucking amazing the first time. Oh you are done with the game? NO YOU AREN'T FUCKER. It completely blew me away the first time. It is definitively something that's cool on paper but crappier on practice but to say you didn't think it was the coolest shit the first time is bullshit.

>>381910652
worst castlemania ever

>>381919494
epic meme retard

>>381911049
If Dawn still had Kojima for the art style instead of the shitty cartoony anime look it had it would be perfect imo.

>>381919616
A shitty artstyle change would do nothing to fix the shitty castle, the grinding souls for weapons, the touch screen crap, the shitty castle and the terrible-ass final boss.

>>381910652
those sounds and animation when you slice monsters. 3D was a mistake

>>381917309
>C IV is the king of the linear games
No it isn't, the NES titles bar 2 are flat out better in every conceivable way and 4 doesn't even really play like a castlevania game, is clearly rushed as fuck at the end and is piss easy. It is not bad but it is not anywhere near the high point of the series.

>>381919756
the caste is not shitty at all. There are some boring looking areas though.

>>381919616
Someone made a mod to fix it btw
www.romhacking.net/hacks/3356/

>>381919756
>touch screen crap
fuck I forgot about this. Drawing those sigils was fucking bullshit

who else loves the fuck of dracula x? Shit is hard but the quality is incredible. Can you enable easy mode to steamroll?

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>>381920113

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>tfw playing aria of sorrow with my Gear vr
Shit is awesome. Playing it on a huge screen I've never seen all the details put into the levels before like this
Although I don't know if there's a better way to do it, playing it on a gba emulator through ppsspp using it's vr mode.

>>381910652
Ultimately I have to agree, SOTN was unbalanced as fuck and a lot of features were tacked-on (how many of you actually used the magic system?).

You could argue that SOTN had a superior atmosphere, though (not to mention its 2D PS1 charm).

>>381920419
looks beautiful on vita. Thanks for remembering me I have the game.

>>381920419
>how many of you actually used the magic system?
anyone who knows about soul steal and tetra spirit in a few cases when they don't want to bother hitting a tiny annoying enemy
you don't know how to properly break this game yet anon

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>>381910652
This one was better tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPWuK0275Sc

>>381920664
and a Vita

>>381920419
>how many of you actually used the magic system
uhhhhhhhhh
i used it regularly anon, both for a cool factor (motherfucking teleportation with fireballs is still one of the coolest spell animations ever) and actual utility as soul steal is fucking bonkers

>>381910652
My nigga. That game is absolute castlekino

>>381920750
Unironically the worst Metroidvania Castlevania, even HoD is better.

>>381912328
DoS's RPG gets really fun once you learn that it does set damage and you can dash-cancel it for semi-rapid fire. Really fucking OP in the early game.

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Admit it /v/ this was the pinnacle of the whole franchise

>>381911829
Julius mode in dawn is the only thing I liked better besides the updated graphics. The place under the tower was pretty bad

>>381912996
That's what makes it fun. It's always a surprise to find excellent and powerful weapons, and if you git gud you can beat everything with your fists.

>>381920419
I would use magic a lot more if I was less shit at it, but I've only played through SoTN twice, so I would imagine I'll get better at it. Tetra Spirit is pretty useful for hitting annoying things, and I abused the fuck out of Soul Steal for Beelzebub.
>>381920664
>Handheld SoTN
Life is fucking good

>>381912996
>Trying to pronounce this fucking thing
I always thought it was Clay-m Soul-Ays, but it's apparently Climh Sullish or something like that. Never understood that.

>>381915084
this.

>>381915364
except that it does.

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>>381919865
>just because it isn't as hard it means it isn't finished...
You know how retarded you sound?

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>physical copy of Aria is near impossible to find, costs an arm and a leg anyway
>have to get the double pack, around the same price but actually exists, although the box is visually shit

>>381917042
>>381917128
This. It's actually pretty good for an N64 game, all things considered. Decent music too.

https://youtu.be/HUzLO2GpPv4

Pretty comfy track to be honest.

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>>381918914

>>381920419
Soul Steal is, bar none, the best thing in the game.

The only thing "tacked on" are a few of the gimmick items, but those add a lot of charm.

>>381910652
Only Dawn of Sorrow and Harmony of Dissonance were worse than SotN.

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>>381921494
Simon's Quest is honestly a pretty fun game to play once you know what you're doing. It's poorly designed and either intentionally obtuse in order to sell guides, or just really, really shittily translated. Could be both.
Anyone who claims the game is hard or punishing though, hasn't played it. When you die, you start off at the exact same point you died in, with all your hearts. If you waste all your lives, you start off at the exact same point you died in, without your hearts. The game is so fucking easy that you really shouldn't ever see the game over screen if you're careful. You'll probably fall down some shitty traps and waste time, but I don't think any of them lead straight to death. The game basically just punishes you with wasting your time, since you'll have to grind up some hearts if you manage to get your ass killed too many times.
Bosses are a joke, most enemies are a joke and the only challenge comes from finding out where the fuck to go, which is frustrating. But, once you know your way, the entire thing becomes comical. The constant cryptic bullshit from villagers is honestly hilarious. I can't help but chuckle at things like ''Hit your head at Deborah's cliff'' or ''Laurels in your soup enhances the aroma'' once you know what they're referring to. It's such insane bullshit that you have to laugh.

>>381920750
Best GBA ost.

>>381916086
The weapon synthesis system objectively gives the game less weapon variety. You have no clue what you're talking about.

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https://youtu.be/t5U0Mg6a_jw

Best menu music of all Castlevanias. Gives me goosebumps. Shame it was on the GBA and suffered from terrible sound quality.
Shit like this and the Temple of Time from OoT are what got me into gregorian chanting, and now I listen to that shit to fall asleep. Comfy as fuck.

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Admit it /v/, this was the best Belmont.

>>381922986
That's a really weird picture of Richter anon.
Why the fuck does Richter's sprite make it look like he's wearing a shitty hood when he looks so god dam cool in artwork,
at least we have Dracula X

>>381922876
that track was also on rondo of blood, although the sound quality is only slightly better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOlYyBwQ6qI

Aria randomiser makes Aria the best casltlemania.

It's great fun to race your friends at random seeds and just see who figures shit out fastest.

>>381921814
There's this thing called emulation, perhaps you've heard of it?

>>381921797
No it isn't finished because the last three stages are terrible, the bosses have completely wonky hitboxes that clearly weren't tested and the difficulty curve shits the bed completely at that point with dracula being one of the easiest bosses in the game with a boss three before that being the hardest

This is leaving aside the completely lackluster stage design in general, but the latter stages are significantly worse, with that upwards autoscroller literally being a memorisation stage. I'm convinced faggots like you only like the game because it's the only one you can finish.

>>381923264
yeah and it doesn't interest me

>>381923187
Oh yeah! I keep forgetting that CotM borrowed a lot of music from this one and the Genesis game.

>>381923128
you mean his sotn sprite?

because its ported right from rondo, where he wore a bandana, without taking into account his new art

>>381911829
You get to throw a pie in a yetis face

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>>381923128
Richter is just cool as he is.

Julius are way stronger tho.

>>381910652
It's definitly better than Sotn, but I even prefer DoS to AoS

>>381922673
In dawn, there's much more variety in weapons due to the way you swing it and the super moves of the weapons

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>>381923590
Why do they all have that face?

>>381923128
His Dracula X sprite is easily his best design honestly. Don't know why people like blue ryu.

>>381921632
>Never understood that
it's almost like different languages pronounce things differently or something

>>381923821
Yeah, yeah. I meant why is it spelled like it is? It's not the original spelling either.

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>>381922986

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Play the randomizer anons

It has an OOPS ALL SOULS mode that replaces items and weapons with more souls so you're underequipped but have loads of souls to pick from.

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>>381923590

>tfw Julius standalone game never

>>381924045
Thanks for giving me something to do tonight

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>>381910652
Objectively true.
>mfw you can actually see the inverted castle being destroyed during the Julius fight as a fuck you to SotN's terrible level design

>>381923675
No there aren't. Every weapon of a certain type is functionally identical, there's a lot less variety. At least in Aria, lots of the various clones of a base weapon type actually have unique animations and stats and effects.

And, on top of that, Dawn's weapon progression is literally just "pick the weapon you like and keep upgrading it via weapon synthesis and having nothing change but the sprite." That's the real killer.

>>381924045
That sounds fucking dope. I used to boot up NG+ and beat it as fast as possible when I couldn't sleep. Figured out some neat sequence breaks that let you skip a whole bunch of shit.

>>381924127
that's just the normal castle, anon. it's all the shit below ground under the castle. The floating gardens are literally floating around the castle, not directly attached to the castle itself

>>381924219
As opposed to aria where there are only 3 types of ways to swing?

>>381924264
Sometimes you'll get seeds that have things like giving you Black Panther right at the start, other times you'll get get shit on and not even get gravekeeper until the endgame.

The best way to play it is to race you and a friend or two on the same seed.

>>381923556
Yeah he has a white headband isn't it, not anything blue covering the back of his head. Maybe it was meant to be his collar

>>381924475
A. That's wrong, and B. the number of base swing animations have absolutely nothing to do with actual weapon variety. Building the game's weapons on a few premade types each with a series of upgrades that only changes the damage and rarely the sprite is boring and terrible for variety.

Roaming the castle and finding individual unique weapons is better than upgrading the same two weapons over and over and just having the damage stat change.

>>381923556
>>381924651
It's just his hair, due to the pallette limit they originally drew it with the same dark blue used for the shadows in his clothes to represent his dark hair.

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>>381924651
looks like hair to me

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>>381924651
yeah its just his sprite from the previous game, unaltered.

the Saturn version tried to modify it to fit the art, but it looked awful with the Saturn's stretched sprites and shitty resolution

>>381925003
Pallette limits, that would explain things.
>>381925037
That is definitely hair

>>381923590
Why the fuck is Julius so damn GORGEOUS? Other Castlevania characters can't even compare.

>>381924045
Won't you spoonfeed me, dear anon?

>>381925692
because you're a fag and you have a thing for older men

>>381925793
hopefully he won't because it took literally two seconds of google to find it, I already started a run and a zombie gave me Balore's soul

>>381925826
sounds like you're just projecting

>>381925928
Well, I got off my ass and googled it, literally first link, thanks, anon.
Here it is: https://github.com/abyssonym/aos_rando

All the metroidvanias are mediocre as fuck.

>>381925928
Nice.

>>381927567
>tfw the first two souls I got are balore and red minotaur
>don't even have enough MP to use them
at least it replaced flying armor with black panther, being able to dash around the castle from the beginning is pretty fun, it's like I'm playing harmony of dissonance except better

>>381920419
Magic is essentially a requirement in Thief Mode until you get something like the Jewel Knuckles because your damage output is going to be so shit otherwise.

>>381920419
Magic is godly in sotn

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>>381924090
>Julius at his prime
>a single Grand Cross physically demolishes the background

>>381924090
>>381929760
>that fake teaser site some anon put up that was designed to make people think there was gonna be a Demon Castle War game.

The pain

>>381929760
>implying it wasn't just a bunch of cracked walls filled with meat you can't see in the distance
it was nothing special, come on

>>381922439

I really wish they'd remade it. It has a really weird feel to it, like a bleak oppressive one. Like how some of the townsfolk are afraid of Simon because he wants to revive Dracula.

>tfw every game after SotN feels too sluggish and slow because of the accidental shield dashing glitch
Why can't devs realize not all glitches are bad.

>>381921354
>even HoD is better.
fuck off

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>>381911049
The art style is shitty generic anime, but that doesn't bother me much.

What I hate is that the gameplay is bogged down by the soul mechanics. In Aria, all you had to do was acquire one soul from an enemy to attain its power, and that was it. In Dawn, the soul's power is usually very weak until you upgrade it by obtaining multiple copies of the same soul.

And as if that weren't enough, there's item crafting, which requires even more grinding for souls. Want to upgrade a sword that you obtain early in the game? Go grind for a (5-star rarity) Valkyrie soul. That's right, they didn't even balance it so the higher-level weapons required rarer or higher-level enemy souls. One of the first weapons you get requires one of the hardest to obtain souls to upgrade.

And don't even get me started on unique boss souls where you have to pick between the soul power or the weapon upgrade.

>>381925037
>generic gook design
>1700's european guy
Telling you, still want to see a Castlevania with some accurate time period design and costumes

Why is the Werewolf from Rondo of Blood so fucking hard for a stage 2 boss?

>>381931508
it's so easy to be overleveled in Dawn, to grind for all that shit is quite unecessary and kills the pacing

>>381910652
Yes and no.
It's better to me but you can't deny sotn feels prettier and ultimately more appealing to people not giving a fuck about level design and magic system.
Order of ecclesia was even better OoE > AoS > SotN