MGS2 is overrated

>>381907184
fuck off pleb

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your gay

>>381907184
and its still better than almost all games out there

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>>381907184
welcome to 15 years ago or so

>>381907184
Your mom is...

Fuck it I can't do this.

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Sounds like CoD is more your type of game kiddo

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>>381908897
I remember the xbox trailers. MGS coming to xbox was huge news back then. Time flies.

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HURR 2DEEP4YOU

MGS2 was a pretty great game, even with the plot vomit towards the end.

>>381907184
Take it back faggot

It's actually the best

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>>381907184
It's the best game in the franchise and one of the best games of all time.

shittiest plot ever, after Twin Peaks

Only example of a video game that has reached the level of high art

>>381907184
(You)

3>2=1

you're still wrong tho

>>381913797
and it was all by accident

4 and 5 had worse story and characters.

>>381907184
Yes but my le control of information plot twist, as if that makes the rest of the game any better.

>sure the gameplay is amazing

Wrong

>>381913797
>>381913896
And you're so full of shit, holy dicks.

>>381912690
Because of one monologue? You need to stop this peer pressure shit you're going through.

>>381913967
>Second best stealth gameplay
>God tier OST
>Some of the best boss fights ever
>God tier level design
It's just the icing on the cake of an already masterpiece.

>>381907184
>says what everyone has been saying since it came out
wow dude i think you're onto something, perhaps op is the new prophet now that caramel passed away

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>>381907184
bait

>>381912690
I never played any MGS game but always liked this speech. I remember being aware of the Metal Gear series since it was covered in a video game magazine I was reading when I was younger, always dug the art-style. A few years ago I informed myself on what I missed out on. Turns out: nothing much. Nanomachines, an attached arm taking control over someone's brain, everyone is a clone, a cloned supersoldier is the president, a whacky fat guy hass rollerblades, a death virus, fondling Raiden's dick, Jesus fuck. I wish I could go back to not knowing much about MGS.

>>381914151
No you casual, it's the way the game deconstructs linear gameplay in video games and integrates it with the themes of the games such as free will and existentialism.
It's one of the few video games that actually makes full use of the medium.

are MGS2 fans tinfoil hats?

>>381914237
>Some of the best boss fights ever
Are we talking about MGS2? Because the boss fights sucked ass. You had like, fatman and vamp, and the fatman one was awful.

>>381914494
>No you casual, it's the way the game deconstructs linear gameplay in video games
It does nothing of the sort, ironic linear gameplay is still linear gameplay, you pretentious donut.

>>381907184
fuck off, idiot.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Q5KTrt5Crs

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>>381914424
See thats where you fucked up. The fun in MGS and many stories is experiencing them as they unfold. When you play MGS you don't know nanomachines are causing Vamp to have powers, when he's showed its implied he is of supernatural origin, of the strange. What you did was skip to the end of the book, ignoring the journey that would of got you there. Sorry.

>>381915358
Is linear gameplay supposed to be bad?

>>381914424

That's a really terrible way to look at the story. It is a wacky world, but it's an immersive one. If you just take random facts out of the context of the actual story, of course it's going to seem nonsensical from the outside.

I tried to play it for like 30 minutes but it was too clunky to play at this day and age, it has aged like milk especially when Phantom Pain exists.

>>381909253
Right? Subsistence never made it to xbox. Was kojima not happy with the outcome of substance?

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>>381915879
I played it for the first time this year and found the controls fine, sorry about your adhd.

>>381914424
that's why there was a massive uproar when this shit was released
MGS1 may be a silly super spy thriller but the execution was amazing and you could play it without cringing continuously

>>381915879
Sandbox games are annoying. Free roam games are everywhere now. It was cool when gta did it, but now everyone wants to explore. Kinda ghey desu.

way to fall > the best is yet to come > cant say goodbye to yesterday

>>381915268
>Fatman
>Bad
Running around defusing bombs while shooting a fat guy on roller-skates is about as ludo as it can get.

>>381907184
MGS2 is a good walking simulator, nothing more.

>>381915590
How is that a deconstruction, you fucking child?

>>381913797
This.

It's one of the few games that actually used the unique aspects of the medium as part of its narrative structure.

>>381916852
It doesn't help that the character was such poorly-written tripe.

>>381917413
It did not, all of the spergaton you imbeciles are circlejerking about happened during one codec call. Take that away, and you have a lackluster, rushed sequel to one of the greatest games of all time.

>>381917518
How dare you, he's an artist

I love MGS2. It's my favourite game. I've played it probably 20 times through, got all the dog tags in 3 different versions of the game.

Even I can admit it's a bit garbage in some areas though. I disagree with OP about the story and characters (for the most part they're great), but I think the editing is terrible, and the presentation of the story is really bad. with most of the story being told through word vomit exposition on the codec screen. Every time a character says "Let's use the codec, it's more secure" it's just like aw fuck here we go again. I think the story in MGS3 was worse than 2 but they present it in a way that makes it much more interesting to watch.

The Big Shell is a very boring location too, considering how much time you spend backtracking all through it.

>>381917619
>ignoring the whole meta and art of the commentary of the idea of a sequel and what a sequel means

hes not on about the dump about information control or the weird 4th wall breaking stuff

also

>rushed

lol

>>381917619
>MGS
>Greatest game of all time
It's the weakest of the original trilogy by a country mile, the gameplay has aged like milk and the entire plot doesn't make sense. Why does Liquid at many times in the game try to kill Snake when he needs Snake to activate REX in the first place?

2 > 3 >>> 1 >>>>>> V > PW > 4

>>381917619
>everything happened in one codec call

Must really suck to be a brainlet who can't even understand a shitty game.

>>381917868
>Extending an idea presented in one codec call to the entire game
This is just baffling. I guess you had it repeated to you so many times you started building it up to some kind of masterpiece, when it's failry obvious the game was rushed, the new gameplay mechanics were useless half of the time, the level design was the worst in the series and that Kojima forced his team to remake the entire game because he was moved by the movie Titanic.
But it had some really insighftful code call about control of information.
Stop parroting shit you read here, it makes you look even more braindead than usual.