it doesn't really look that bad

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No, it looks worse. At least it looks like Shadow will be somewhat important again, though, so that's neat.

Plus, the villain has the long lost 8th chaos emerald, so the retarded but fun storylines are back

Here's how I feel. Call me a faggot shiteater if you must.

WHAT I LIKE:
- custom hero is interesting
- the classic Sonic boss fight I saw was well-done
- the darker, serious setting seems like it has potential for ACTUAL storytelling this time
- I like the villain team-up as long as it's well-justified in-story (not expecting it, though)
- the custom hero's Park Avenue theme reminded me of the Sega Saturn

WHAT I DON'T LIKE:
- boost Sonic again
- presence of Wisps when they were are already terribly out of place in Sonic Lost World
- classic Sonic's stage had ugly music
- classic Sonic once again looks to be the highly scripted, rigid-feeling gameplay from Generations, which is a poor imitation of actual Genesis Sonic physics

So I'm split. Hated the game at the outset and then they introduced some things that looked okay so it's kind of teetering in the middle at this point.

>>381898242
I still have hopes for the game, I liked Generations and Colors so Forces looks like more of stuff I enjoyed in the past

Kinda bummed hearing about the limitations on the Switch version. I can handle it being locked at 30 fps since it didn't really bug me in Generations but jesus christ Sega you better fix those textures before launch

>>381898242
It doesn't look BAD per say, but it looks extremely unfocused like it has no idea what it even wants to do with itself.

>>381899278
My problem was it looked lazy as hell.

It seemed to be "People like Generations and people like Colors, so let's just raid those for ideas."

Wisps, boost, and classic Sonic. Done. Game is amazing.

Things have gotten a little better since the introduction of the custom hero but those things are still nagging me.

Why is there no conversation?

>>381899141
They're not going to fix the textures. The switch has awful hardware capabilities.

>>381901558
Because there's nothing to talk about. The game looks like shit to anyone with taste and the only people that are gonna buy it are children, idiot brand loyalists, and """ironic""" memers.

>>381901727
And yet other games have far better textures on the Switch.

>>381901795
>anyone with taste
>/v/
>taste

>>381901924
You're right. The majority of /v/ doesn't have taste. There's still some posters with standards for entertainment here, but most of the posters are casuals with no taste that enjoy Dark Souls, League of Legends, Breath of the Wild and/or Overwatch. That said, those queers will not be swayed from their stance and neither will the ones that have standards, so there's still nothing to discuss

Its Sonic 06 2.0, and even worse this time, which I did not thi k to be fucking possible, but yet again Iizuka proved me wrong.

>>381902701
Are you actually fucking retarded? The games with the Hedgehog engine are still fucking masterpieces in comparison to 06.

>>381902701
Sonic 360 was terrible because of its shit optimization and bugtesting.

The story was jacked up and made the game unsalvageable for me but at least if it played well it could be fondly remembered for that.

I don't think this game is going to play like garbage but that's because they took exactly zero risks with what they're doing with the Sonic gameplay. This game is underwhelming because it's dull-looking, which is something I thought would never happen.

>>381902878
>le 2.5D gameplay
>le Sonic is the only playable character
>le two sonics for 8 games in a row
>better than 06
You may actually have aids

>>381902908
So was Sonic Adventure and yet people loved the hell out of it.

>>381903020
I didn't have anywhere near the problems of Sonic 360 in Sonic Adventure.

There was some camera issues, sure, but shit like beating the final boss of Sonic's story by dying three times wasn't occurring.

But can I choose the color of my OC's arms independently? This is important!

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>>381903015
That's why Sonic Generations and Sonic Colors are praised and sold a lot, right?

>>381903609
Sonic 06 sold a lot too though

>>381903609
Because neogaf aids and IGN praised them for going back to the terrible 2D style which should have fucking stayed dead.

>>381902701
sonic 06 is terrible because it was literally unplayable buggy mess

no game will ever worse than it,no matter how shittty it is

for the story,well we still don't know it so we will have to wait

>>381903015
Anon your memes are showing

>>381904094
Rise of Lyric

The level design looks like shit. Granted we've only seen the first levels but even when compared to Generations' first levels, they look bad. Way too linear and nothing interesting at all. And the OC's levels with the lines of enemies you just mow down effortlessly is disgusting.

The best part of this game will only be getting to make Coldsteel.

Anyone expecting this to be their final foray with the franchise?

>>381904146
if we have to compare sonic 06 and rise of lyric in terms of playabilty then rise of lyric wins,it has bugs,but not at the same level of sonic 06

>>381904281
This will be the death of 3D sonic, screencap this. They did this as intentional sabotage.

>>381904281
no,sonic mania is still a thing

>>381904281
they still have one more card to play

and that card is sonic adventure 3

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>>381903821
There is nothing wrong with the 2D Classic Style in Generations.

Maybe to YOU it's terrible, but many others do not.

>>381904202
Visuals are the least important part to making a game interesting. It's mostly about how enjoyable the game itself is to the player. (at least to the ones that aren't a little bitch)

>>381904281
>>381904419

We've heard this shit millions of times already. If Sonic can survive RoL, he can survive anything.

>>381904480
Sonic Mania happens first. You'll enjoy that then get to this and finally lay it down for good.

>>381905297
if sonic mania is succesful they will keep making more good 2d sonic games,it's not dying anon

>>381904281
Honestly, I don't care how many shitty games they release, at least they keep making them. I'd rather have 10 awful Megaman games in a row than them just killing the franchise

the character creator will probably be nothing

I actually meant >>381904281 for all of you, not Sega.

Sorry, that required clarification.

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>>381905224
>Implying Generations didn't have shit for 2D physics
>Implying level design = visuals

>>381905685
define "the end of us"

if you refer to sonic fans they will just keep playing sonic games that will come

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>NO CHAO GARDEN

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>>381904630
Here you go senpai

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>>381898907
>Classic Sonic in Forces

It's pretty ballsy of Sonic Team to include Classic gameplay in Forces when Mania makes it look like hot steaming garbage in comparison. Probably why Iizuka is now retconning Generations' story slightly by making Classic Sonic an "alternate universe" Sonic instead of simply a younger version of him. It allows Sonic Team to say, "Well, the reason why he plays differently is because he's not the same Sonic that's in Mania, he's from another dimension! :^)" You can't make this shit up. This is on the same level as Iizuka reclassifying Sonic games as "action" games rather than platformers to avoid criticism.

>>381905224
>There is nothing wrong with the 2D Classic Style in Generations.

This is objectively wrong. Unless you're referring to the 2D camera sections, in which case you're still kind of wrong. The problem with 2D sections is the over-abundance of them. There is nothing worse than having a good time going fast in 3D only to be thrown into a forced, clunky, uninspired 2D platforming section. I'm not the biggest fan of the boost mechanic, in fact I think it's stagnating Modern Sonic creatively, but it's obvious to anyone that it works the best in a 3D space.

>>381906084
I played those sections loved the shit out of them. Honestly coming from a mildly autistic sonic fan, I have to say that I think you guys just ask for waaay too much from Sonic Team.

>>381906084
>This is on the same level as Iizuka reclassifying Sonic games as "action" games rather than platformers to avoid criticism.
Did he actually say that?

>>381906635
>Having standards is bad
They're not even particularly high standards comsidering that fans like Christian Whitehead were able to replicate classic physics on their own while Sonic Team is an ENTIRE TEAM OF DEVELOPERS WORKING FOR SEGA. There's no reason why they shouldn't be able to fix the shit physics

No it doesn't.
OC creator brought it down though.

>>381907049
The OC creator is the only redeeming part of this shitshow

>>381906931
What shit physics? I played all three games with the hedgehog engine and I didn't have much of a problem with them.

>>381908103
The Classic physics in Generations (and Forces, based on what we've seen thus far)

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>>381906084
>Probably why Iizuka is now retconning Generations' story slightly by making Classic Sonic an "alternate universe" Sonic instead of simply a younger version of him.
That's retarded.

Also fuck Mania; it's just pandering. It's not even gonna be a proper sequel and has a tonne of returning levels.

>>381905894
But none of you are that kind of fan, right? You don't tolerate when a franchise hits the skids.

>>381908390
Oh. Yeah no I didn't have a problem It felt close to how a classic genesis sonic game played to me. I loved using the spindash.

>>381898575
I love how the Sonic franchise doesn't give up on characters from bad games. Any other franchise would have immediately discarded guys like Zavok and Silver.

>>381908848
They gave up on Mephiles though.

>>381906931
You also have to factor in that people like Christian Whitehead have been tinkering and toying around with Classic for years, people at current Sonic Team have not. Of course people who attached themselves to the old engines and games will know more than those who aren't.

>>381908706
But the spindash was easily the worst part of the Generations physics and it felt nothing like how it should. Did you even play the game?

>>381908926
How could they even bring back Mephiles when he's only one half of a whole villain and was completely erased from existence? That requires two contrived justifications for him coming back. I mean, they could do it, but it feels like the whole plot would have to revolve around it. They kind of have an ensemble thing going.

Christian Whitehead should live up to that "Friend to pixels and POLYGONS" part of his slogan and contribute something to a 3D Sonic game.

>>381909338
Yes. I have it on the 360. Fucking amazing to me.

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>>381908706

>>381908848
They really should of given up on silver though his design and gimmick is terrible and too OP for such a shitty character

glad the lost world villians are getting another shot. Just need that hot Green girl back, her and rouge the bat are the only acceptable sonic faps

>>381909342
>implying Iizuka will ever let a filthy Gaijin touch a mainline Sonic game
That would taint it, nevermind that he has a better understanding of the physics in Sonic games than Sonic Team themselves

>>381909264
Yes but Sonic Team is a bunch of professional developers that work with Sonic quite literally every day. Regardless of whether they've been working on Genesis-style games or not, they should at least be able to replicate the old physics system.

>>381909710
There is just something too rigid about the way they designed classic Sonic. Everything has a fixed momentum value.

>>381909710
I said it felt CLOSE.

>>381909926
That webm still says otherwise.

>>381908671
that can be said for any franchise

>>381909771
desu i think that silver is not over powered,i think instead that maybe he was a charatcer that had potential lore wise but got introduced in a shitty game,but i hope that he will have some sort of importance in forces

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>>381909710
>>381909926

>>381909710

WAT

>>381902878
>Hedgehog Engine
>Can barely hit 25FPS
>Meanwhile Sonic 06 has consistent 60FPS

>>381911503
Does it?

I guess it was kind of smooth.

Just tried Generations since I got it on sale. Since this is basically Generations 2 it will be completely average and Mania will be much better.

>>381910921
Who the hell is gonna run backwards in a Sonic game?

>>381911814
People who play Sonic CD & explore to destroy the Generators.

>Silver is voiced by Raiden these days

Pottery

>>381899932
Boost at this point is simply a gameplay style. I have no problems with it because Gens showed it had plenty of promise and Lost World's control scheme wasn't that great.

The rest (Wisps, classic Sonic, OC creator, etc) is just straight up pandering though and I'm getting sick of it.

>>381911979
>Whitehead never did do sonic 3 feat knux remake

>>381912137
He wanted to but there were/are(?) legal issues with it most likely involving the music. Read Stealth's post on it:
http://hcstealth.tumblr.com/post/110586472232/regarding-sonic-3

Also here's a proof of concept video by them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdHL-MWO0Go

>>381912417
yeah I know a bit about the history but it still sucks. Probably could've used the pc version soundtrack if they really wanted it released

Anyone else here kinda wish it was like sonic adventures in some way?

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>>381913825
>>381904630

It's been 16 years.

SIX.
TEEN.
FUCKING.
YEARS.

Give up already. There will never be a SA3.

>>381912417
I wonder what kind of ideas he would have had to spice things up for that.

Maybe give Tails a legit super form?

>>381914779
>Give up already. There will never be a SA3.
It came out in 2006.

>>381914779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nb0XROBsE8

>>381915046
No Chao Garden, not Sonic Adventure.

>>381915119
It's not Classic Sonic without proper rolling physics either, and we still got Sonic 4.

Im glad Chaos is back, one of the top Sonic villans imo.

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>>381915575
Little confused about it though. This must be some time fuckery because Chaos is a good guy by the end of Sonic Adventure.

>sonic adventurecoons
Give up on your very average games

>>381898575
Holy shit I just happened to notice the thread on the front page nad clicked it on a whim but seeing Chaos again is really nostalgic.

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Wonder if Chaos being back means we might see his other forms we never got to see in Adventure. Chaos 3, Chaos 5, they were both skipped.
Also always wondered why Chaos went from a bipedal creature, to a shark, to a frog, then a kaiju. Kinda random.

>>381917380
>yfw you get to play as Chaos and all his transformations

>>381917380
I kind of thought the frog form was a side effect of being from Froggy

>>381917542
But he turned into before he ate Froggy.
Eating froggy only returned his tail.

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>>381916114
Eggman shattering the Master Emerald must've corrupted him.

And yeah, he was pretty badass. I was also kinda terrified of the mural of him as a kid.

>>381917380
Now that would be interesting. We never did get to see Chaos 3 and 5.

>>381918012
Wait, if the new villain has the 8th choas emerlad, does that mean we might see Chaos 8? Or Super Perfect Chaos?

>>381898242
It's only merit will be Chris-Chan's reaction to people making sonichu characters ingame.

>>381898575
Shadow is and always will be a shit character. He's an autistic kid's idea of a cool dude.

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>>381918115
>*Chaos Emerald

what is wrong with me today

This entire thread reads like a Sonichu strip.

>>381898242
The cycle of abuse continues.

>>381918115
>>381918216
What 8th chaos emerald? Last I checked the official number was 7. Ya know, "The servers are the 7 chaos"?

Why would there be an 8th emerald?

>>381898242
My fate in good sonic games is gone like my fate in most nintendo games.

>>381899141
You bought a Switch, dude. Live with it.

>>381901824
>Implying.

>>381918350
But in the stone age...

>>381918708
truthing actually

>>381918610
Nah i'd rather Sega put more manpower into making textures look better on Switch when others can do that just fine

>>381918451
On a high note, I'll finally get to hear Roger say "Chaos Emeralds" in Sonic's voice.

Also is chaos control still a thing?

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>>381918952
>sega
>more manpower

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I am looking forward to this game. Not because it will be good or I plan on buying it. Because of all the cold steel characters and CWC and /v/s reaction. It will be laughs for days

>>381898242
It looks like actual horseshit

>Generations style more on rails than ever
>Classic style still gimped
>Rather than fix this shit, add a THIRD nonsensical gameplay style

Getting reminiscent of the mistakes made by the Adventure series, and they're showing no sign of fixing.

>>381909710
Jesus Christ it's worse than I remember

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>>381915517
>and we still got Sonic 4.
And that means anything because? The game was initially just Sonic the Mobile and wasn't even remotely planned as a true Genesis Sonic game, it was a cash grab from start to finish. Mania is the true Sonic 4, and a true "SA3" will play like one.

Not that other guy but you fags seem to just not get this simple concept. Sonic 06 is, by itself, a standalone Sonic game. It does nothing on the same level of effort of Adventures, and borderline "tries" on the level of effort of Sonic the Mobile.

>>381919156
This. A character creator will be a fucking goldmine.

>>381898242
That fucking logo is awfully familiar. The tilted angle, the font, the entire look is something I swear I've seen before.

It looks like a messy hodgepodge of ideas with an angsty story.
It'll probably be playable but not particularly good. Modern Sonic will be OK for a few cheap thrills while the novelty of the CaC will probably make the dollar store ratchet and clank gameplay tolerable for its runtime.

>>381919132
I know its a fucking pipe dream

>>381909710
God-fucking-damn.

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>>381919647
Are you basically saying the classic gameplay makes Rise of Lyric... MOTHER FUCKING Rise of Lyric.. look actually enjoyable?

Christ no wonder no one takes this board serious.

>>381920126

I honestly don't know how you possibly got that from my post.

>>381919647
>dollar store ratchet and clank gameplay
I figured you were referring to Sonic Boom.

>>381920349
he's some esl third worlder obviously

>>381919647
Sorry

I meant to reply to >>381920349

>>381920126
He never said any of that.

>Christ no wonder no one takes animu/mango posters serious.

>>381918451
The 8 at the end of the E3 trailer turning into an infinity symbol (Infinite is the villain's name), plus the bright pink gem in his (her?) chest, time-space shenanigans, etc.

>>381921041
He just fucking said "dollar store ratchet and clank gameplay"

I thought for a split second that he was talking about Sonic Boom instead of Modern Sonic or OC gameplay alright?

>>381921287
So you think it's some Nazo shit?

>>381921662
>Thought for a split second
>had the time to think about a post to write up and mango image to go along with it
Just admit you're still learning English, hombre

>>381921662
>So you think it's some Nazo shit?
I WISH Sonic Team could do something as cool as Nazo. This is probably gonna look like a bad parody in comparison if that really is the route they're taking.

It's probably gonna be some dumb shit like "It's the nega emerald that was sealed away outside of time because it was pure evil" and infinite is it's way of gaining sentience or something. Probably corrupted the master emerald and the rest of the villains we saw in the trailer.

>>381921980
I'm white. I'm tired. I fucked up alright?

>>381922089
Well to be fair if you're talking about the Nazo from the flash. That was just straight up DBZ. This is Sonic we're talking about. Nobody knows what the Nazo from the Japanese Sonic X commercial was gonna be for.