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>took me 6 1/2 hours to get through Undead Burg and Undead Parish
>Lost 5000 souls trying to get past the Titanite demon to get to next area

Should I just quit dark Souls? The satisfaction I get from clearing a certain part is immense, and it is very addicting, but I can't help feeling that I'll never git gud.
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>>381895756
It's not that bad for the first playthrough to be honest.
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>>381895756
You'll git gud eventually. Just keep at it. Everyone's first playthrough is like this
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Everyone gets their ass handed to them when they first start playing. Then once you've finished one of the games you'll have a relatively easy time with all the others. There's always certain points in the game where the progress just stops. That's when scrubs stop playing. Just get past it and you'll play for many hours and eventually hit the next point where your progress stops. Repeat until the game is finished.
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Why didnt you cash in those souls at the bonfire/blacksmith?
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>>381895756
Drop it. Dark souls is not worth the trouble.
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>>381895756
I stopped playing for months because of titanite demon being too tough for me. Thought there was no point if a trash mob was this difficult. You don't know pathetic OP.
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5k souls is like.. fucking nothing wtf dude
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>>381895756
You are massively underleveled at the beginning of the game, and the equipment you get fucking sucks, but don't worry, you can grind the balder knights until you get 20k and buy the astora emblem, then grind the phantoms. at the forest, theres a bonfire in a hidden wall next to the sealed door, so its ideal.

Also, put a lot of points on endurance, defend a lot and if you cant git gud quuick enough, find a shield with lots of stability.

This game is quite easy from a mechanics point of view, it' s also the definition of artificial difficulty, but the lore is entertaining so hang in there.
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>>381895756
Are you upgrading your equipment/estus? Learn when to just 2 hand your weapon instead of using a shield.
There are other things I could say to help that I can think of, like the location of items you want, but I guess they would be spoilers.
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Use a big-ass shield, it breaks most enemy patterns
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>>381896968
Also, this game is quite different from what it looks like. It looks like action rpg, but in reality it's more like a turn based rhythm game in real time. You'll spend a lot of time blocking, when you learn to time the blows you'll spend most of the game rolling, remember most bosses can be killed by going behind them and stabbing them in the ass, and you don't have to kill every single enemy there is. For the record, titanite demon is extremely skippable.
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OP knows it's called a titanite demon so either he played through the game before or looked it up
Either way it's just a bait thread
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>>381895756
if an enemy is too much for you just skip it and kill it later on, that applies to titanite demons and black knights
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>>381896492
This. Did OP just like not level at all?
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It eventually gets easy enough and you git gud enough to beat the game in 6 hours... don't quit now anon. The game is the best thing to come out on consol in the past 10 years imho.
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>>381895756
This is a regular playthrough, you learn how to play in those two areas. You will get better and better and once you hit 30 hours you will probably feel like you cannot die anymore. And trust me you will learn, i felt in parish that i will never get better and then something just hit me and from then on i was having so much more fun.
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>>381895756
Once you get through blight town for the first time you'll feel amazing and the game will start clicking for you
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>>381898423
I played it for a while, and it really got me good. I enjoyed a lot getting gud and coming back to kill the black knights and that one fucker in the tower with the giant club, but after defeating the sewer dragon i got into blightown and it lost the fun.
I tried to get out ASAP, and the only places to go is the lake with the unkillable ghosts and the cementery. I dropped it and didn't touched it for a year
Does the fun come back, or it's not for me?
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>>381899393
>unkillable ghosts and the cementery.

They van be killed, but in all honesty blightown is easier than new londo, one you reach the bonfire at the bottom its a short run to Queelag and then the next area.
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>>381899393
not him, but blighttown is like four meters wide at the bottom. taking the long way through it almost never worth it. The fun does come back after you realize that 90% of blighttown is climbing that can be skipped
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>>381899393
the fun does come back because you are missing the best content yet, but you gotta man up and stop being a sissy
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>>381897283
not OP, but how do i know that some parts are skippable?
I spent a shitload of time trying to figure out how to kill the moth, and after that i noticed it's a dead end. Same thing for the goat fucker with the dogs, even if that one took me less effort
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>>381896492
>>381898656
>just started playing
>only in undead parish
Of course 5k is a lot to him you fucking retards. Have you played the game so little that you can't understand the context?
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>>381899689
the only hard part about nameless king is the camera not panning/tracking properly. i don't know why people think he's so hard :F
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>>381899789
>I spent a shitload of time trying to figure out how to kill the moth, and after that i noticed it's a dead end. Same thing for the goat fucker with the dogs, even if that one took me less effort

Nigge, the fucking moth its one of the easiest bosses.
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>>381895756
>the struggle

I remember..

You'll miss it once you 'git gud' but, enjoy it while it's there.

>nothing will ever feel as good as the first time you did something in Dark Souls 1
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>>381899789
capra demon is a mandatory boss dude, he gives you the key to the sewers and don't just skip bosses on your first playthrough
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>>381896968
>halberd
>grass crest shield
all you need really
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Ive beaten DaS1 and 2 and am currently on 3, and quite frankly I'm pretty bad at these games, you just have to find out what works for you, and if you're absolutely stuck there's no shame in looking online for some help
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>>381895756
>stack poise
>farm humanities off rats
There you go, you got gud.
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That's not really the next area by the way, you don't need to go that way until later.
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>>381895756
>Should I just quit
no
you always get more souls they're infinite lol
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>>381900005
capra is mandatory if you want to kill gaping dragon. otherwise they're both optional
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>>381899393
If use the shortcut, all of Blighttown sans the swamp can be skipped in around 30 seconds. From there, it's just a 30 second run to Quelagg.

Even without the shortcut, you can run through Blighttown in 5 minutes tops. It's really not that bad.
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Is this still alive on xbl kinda want to play it since its BC
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>>381900192
if you have the master key, yes, but who even gets to blighttown the easy way on the first playthrough?
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>>381895756
try to kill havel at the bottom of the tower :D good ring op take it go go
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>>381899915
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>>381895756
souls dont mean shit
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>>381895756
If you're enjoying it why stop? Average completion time for blind first playthroughs is like 60-80 hours, don't worry about how long you take. Gitting gud is a long and slow process. You'll be demanded to git gud at around the halfway point in Anal Rodeo.
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>>381899915
i'm really shit at dodging projectiles. Any game that has an enemy that throws shit is my natural counter. I feel way better dodging close range attacks even if those have a wider area and are a fuckton faster

>>381899675
So, i just have to go to the bottom and start running toward the huge giants, or the other way? To avoid poise damage i got the ninja outfit, is it worth or just stick to what i'm used to?
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>starting gift doesn't matter
>unless you're playing DS1 and don't have the Master Key

always pick the master key.
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>>381899675
everyone should play sewers and blight town on their first playthrough
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>>381900295
i took the master key my first time through because the other things seemed retarded (at the time). i didn't go that route, but i did unlock the door and realized i was horribly undergeared for the area and left.
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>>381900407
>not being Thief for a FREE key
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>>381897549
I looked him up
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>>381900375
it took me like 110 hours blind because my build was shit :D
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>>381900385
armor isn't immensely important as you're either letting your shield soak the damage, rolling to avoid all damage, or dead. It's still nice to have damage mitigation, but if you'd rather wear something else (or not wear anything at all), it's not going to be too detrimental.
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>>381900385
there's a bonfire at the bottom where you descend. if you exit and head right toward the white stuff there's your exit. Perservere, skeleton!
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>>381895756
>Lost 5000 souls
you think that's a lot? that's adorable
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>>381900491
same
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>>381900543
>dexfags
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>>381900543
>shit stats
No thank you.
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take a couple of days just for grinding and practice parrying next to a bonfire
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>>381900760
>Demon's Souls is almost playable on RPCS3
>mfw
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When can we expect a Dark Souls Trilogy to be released?
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>>381900760
>couple of days
you're a loser
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>>381900678
I will never not be mad that I can't tank anymore in DaS 3.
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>>381900945
was the stank from shit eater, or from his rotting flesh? I could never tell
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Is the dark area after Pinwheel obligatory?
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>>381901234
yes.
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>>381901152
probably the dark sign oozing
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>>381901234

Use the cap that emits light.
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>>381901234
Yes. Don't go if you don't have the Lord vessel yet though. And make sure you kill all the necromancers in the Catacombs, they'll drop a lantern.
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>>381901234
Yes.

I hated that place, it made me angrier than Blighttown honestly.
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>>381899393
once you beat blighttown you learn to appreciate it. hated it at first now its one of my favourite areas.
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@381901589
weak bait no (You) for u
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>>381901589
>I'm 17 now and no longer a kid, unfortunately.
here's a (You) for your troubles
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>>381901589
>teenager esports phase
youll get tired of reflex test games one day kid
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>>381901589
>17
inb4 b&
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I'm having a similar problem with Bloodborne. I can just barely squeak passed bosses, but Hunters just completely wreck my shit every time. I've had to super back down deluxe from Iosefka and Chaingun bro.

It's so fucking great to completely clear an area, but Old Yharnam is just taunting me.
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>>381901589
I am so glad you will be banned.
Because that is a horrible post.
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>>381896096
Yes it is.
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>>381901589
Here's another (you) for making me respond
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>>381901934
You're not supposed to kill the guy on top of the building in Old Yharnam. Well, you can but it's not necessary.
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blight town is actually pretty fucking neat once you know where all the dart cunts are going to shoot from
might sound cliche but the atmosphere is tough to beat
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>>381899842
5k isnt even a lot there
I usually get more than that attempting to get to tauros demon with no sippy uses
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>>381896452
You dont need to kill it
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>>381901589
I got the exact opposite.
I used once to enjoy solely multiplayer games, i played a shitton of W:ET, TF2, CS:S and some ASSFAGGOTS, but now i can't stand sharing my game experience with other human beings and i go full autismo on a single challenging title to 100% it.
The only multiplayer experience i can stand now are card games, but solely because it's more about building a strong deck rather than interacting with a russian kid
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>>381902253
sewer is great

blighttown is not

but that's just me. :/
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>>381902363
Balder knights give 200 at most of course 5k is a lot for someone who just started
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>>381896452

Get a bow, upgrade it as much as you can, add 200 or so arrows, enjoy an easy yet tedious, kill.
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>>381901589
Of course a retarded, dumb, frogposter is underage.
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>>381895756
>look up average clear time of DaS1
>its 45+ hours everywhere I look except speedruns

How is this possible? Is the entire DaS1 fanbase normalfags that didn't play through DeS? It took me 20 hours, maybe less, my first playthrough and I pretty much did it blind while asking /v/ for tips on where to go next when I got lost. This game isn't hard at all. What the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>381900905
For real? Last time I checked it barely worked on a overclocked high end i7
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>>381902849
>mfw took me a week to clear Bloodbore.

Fuck Chalice Dungeons.
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>>381900909
From 2011 to 2016?
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>>381902849
Most people did not play DeS before DaS.
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>>381901589
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>381901589
I like being able to walk around and look at the environments without having to worry about a skeleton fucking me up the ass.
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>playing exclusive weeb shit

Nobody played Demon Souls, and nobody cares to.

Dark Souls is a trilogy, not a saga Sony fags.
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>>381903064
well they should fuck off then
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>>381902849
>Is the entire DaS1 fanbase normalfags that didn't play through DeS?
considering how few people actually owned a piss3, is that so surprising?
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>>381900407
>going out of your way to ruin your fun
no
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>>381902859
was an announcement on their discord yesterday about them improving the recompiler a lot and some games now run flawlessly. so not too long until we can umbasa in peace
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>>381903242
This is the real trilogy.
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>>381903531
DS1
DS2
DS2 SOTFS
imo
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>>381903640
Well your opinion is shit.
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>>381903738
says the bloodborne weeb faggot.
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>>381903640
Dumb. That's a dumb thing to think.
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>>381899789
You won't really know for sure until you find a skippable area. Just remember that area for your next playthrough.
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>>381895756
One day you will understand that losing 5K, or even 100K souls is meaningless in the long run. Gitn gud doesn't happen overnight, its something that comes with time and slamming your self against each obstacle. Take a break if you need to, but you can always make more progress if you keep at it.

Oh, and don't be afraid to just run through a place, knowing enemies will probably kill you and you'll never get your souls back. It's not a big deal, but it helps you sometimes bypass tough areas and get items that will aid you.
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>>381895756
>start playing
>wow ive played Demon souls and DS3 this is just right
>get to area with curse frogs
>get cursed
>k kid now farm like 6000 souls at least go all the way to the other side of the map to cure
>your health is halved while you try to do this
>btw if you try this again you might get cursed again lol
>quit
there is a difference between challenge (i can do ninja gaiden on mentor, so im not a total mongoloid) and being gay and wasting my fucking time
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>>381903531
this is absolutely true
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>>381903937
F R O G G E D
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Wtf I consider myself bad at games but even I do better than you. And people saying its normal? The fuck?
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>>381902849
Why is it a race? I have 2500 hours across the series and an average playthrough takes me 50ish hours while hardly dying at all (usually 5-10 times or so through the playthrough). Getting all treasure, farming all relevant drops, invading here and there, doing sidequests, just having fun in general. Why are you in a hurry?
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>>381903937
Oh yeah I just traded with the crow dude since I play offline on a pirated copy anyway.

Never got cursed again after, it's easy to avoid if you are careful
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>>381903937
Dont get cursed
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>>381895756
Git Gud is a multiplayer meme in a game where the singleplayer exploration is the single best thing. 5K souls is trivial, you'll very soon be able to access better areas for farming souls if you really want to.
Never quit OP, there's absolutely nothing that can come close to first virgin run of Dark Souls.
tfw I watched too many Let's Plays before playing the game and spoilt half the surprises. I'll never get my perfect holy virgin run now.
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>>381895756
My first playthrough it took me 6 hours to get through Undead Burg. Now I can get through the entire game in around 5 hours.
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DaS3>DeS>DaS1>Bloodborne>DaS2
fite me
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>>381895756
Learn to parry and the game becomes much easier.
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>>381901934
Yeah, that guy on the tower is the most OP enemy in the game, it's not just all hunters. If you're gonna kill him now, you should cheese him
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>>381902639
I eventually came back and went to gargoyles which was even harder. Stuck it out for 50 deaths with an unupgraded sword then the rest of the game until ornstein seemed like cake.

There's like a huge difficulty jump from Taurus to Gargoyles.
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>>381904157
>still shit at game 2500 hours in
>lol im just having fun xD

DaS was a mistake.
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>>381899393
If you really, REALLY can't be arsed to play through Blighttown, you could try to just spend all your souls and just run and jump off the ledges to get to the bottom ASAP. Don't fight anything, sippy as needed to counter fall damage. Come back to explore and fight when you're more confident in your skills. It's not the best way to go through it since you'll miss out on some good loot but at least you might make some progress.
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>>381900005
>>381900192
>>381900295
>>381900491
i threw dungpies over the wall to kill capra demon fuck that nigger
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>>381904440
>Git Gud is a multiplayer meme
it has nothing to do with multiplayer
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>>381904943
Friendly reminder to not respond to bait posts like this one.
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>>381895756
If you're talking about the one next to the blacksmith, you can semi-cheese him by fighting him on the stairs. If you keep yourself at a lower height, most of his attacks won't hit you. Souls combat in general falls apart when stairs are involved.
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>>381899789
You're not supposed to skip areas the first time. Just play through whatever you find.
I can't be the only one who loves dead ends in games right? It's like a signal that says "Good job nigga you did everything you could on this path. Now go explore some other route."
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>>381903937
I have literally never been cursed, it's so choreographed and easy to avoid. I'm not even trying to brag, it's just that easy.
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>>381905152
The DaS fanbase is awful. This is a fact.
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>get cursed on my first playthrough
>this is fine, i believe healing item is somewhere here
>killed gaping dragon
>cleared blighttown and killed queelag
>health is still halved
>returned to hub
>where should i go next?
>go to skellington dungeon
>get my ass kicked
>go to sen's fortress
>get my ass kicked
>wander around for like 6 hours not knowing what to do
>eventually stumble upon that curse-free item trader
>felt like fucking frodo throwing his fucking ring into volcano
And this is ~30 hours of my first ~85 hours playthrough.
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you can skip titanite demons and every annoying as fuck enemies for that matter. Once you get decent HP pool and damage the game becomes easy
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>>381904560
dark souls 3 is the worst one no matter what angle you look at it

the pve is trivialised by low cost high iframe rolling, excessive healing, bonfire placement and warping. bosses overwhelmingly consist of learning roll timings and attack timings and are pure style over substence. build variety is lacking since quality is better than most builds and scaling for magics don't kick in till higher levels, not to mention the crippling linearity of the world. enemies are visually interesting but generally have 0 poise and can be stunlocked to death, this has the effect of making all weapons and enemies feel samey since you use them all in the same way (mash r1 until its dead). many of the enemies also have stupid flaily bloodborne attack patterns which are just annoying to fight

pvp is the least interesting in the series thanks to little build variety, latency, rolling and mechanical simplicity.

story/lore wise it's probably the weakest in the series since it relies too heavily on das1 fanservice and many of its new ideas such as the deep, the profaned flame etc are completely half baked and don't go anywhere

aesthetically the game is a dull grey straight line, occasionally interrupted by swamp levels, with blatantly unused (and sometimes actually used) bloodborne assets plastered all over the place

in general the game tries to be a balance of what made dark souls great and what made bloodborne great while failing to achieve either and often inherriting the worst aspects of both, also don't forget the plethora of improvements that das2 made which were dropped because
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>>381900246
Some people still invade in the forest from watching a friend play. But get used to fighting the same people back to back
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i somehow went got through the tomb of giants, had to go all the way back because i didn't have whatever it was i needed for that area and then got stuck in sens fortress. i feel like if i give up now it'll haunt me forever.
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>>381903937
>be shit
>get shit on for being shit
>WHAT THE FUCK VIDEO GAME PIECE OF SHIT FUCK YOU
Why you felt inclined to post this is beyond me. Don't be shit if you don't want to get cursed.
>hurr I'm a hardcore video gamer and I stood in a cloud of smoke for long enough to be cursed
get gud
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>>381903937
if you've played DS3 and demons souls and can't farm 6000 souls on literally any level character in a reasonable amount of time you must be retarded. the merchant is not far
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>>381895756
>>381896452
Do these people not know you can very easily just run past that titanite demon? You can come back later when you're higher level and have an upgraded / better weapon and smack his shit.
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>>381905869
fuck u nigger no1 told me that the curse was equivalent to getting aids in this game, i wasn't that worried about the smog
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>>381895756
that doesn't sound too bad, I remember my first playthrough I got through in about 100 hours with the worst build imaginable
>+5 zweihander + havel's shield
>full havel's armor
>60 strength + enough endurance to fatroll with above gear and no points anywhere else
>no spells/miracles/pyro
>got all the way to O&S with un-upgraded weapon
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>>381896968
Why the fuck would you grind? That just seems like a great way of making an amazing game extremely tedious.
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>tfw was overlevelled for most bosses and kill them by face tanking and whacking them with great club
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>>381906427
I played blind and grinded a little bit. When I found a good source of souls, metal or humanities. Finding a good grind spot is like finding a good item. part of the game IMO.
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>>381898423
>Dodging is usually more important then blocking
Not if you play as a fat tank with a huge shield. On my first playthrough I blocked everything and it worked flawless.
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>>381906409
>got all the way to O&S with un-upgraded weapon
Impossible, you must be some sort of rarity
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Gave up at the crystal caves after 60 hours of playing

I beat Demon's souls at around 60 hours the first time. and knowing I have an entire half in DaS completely killed my interest. Not to mention the crystal caves are slippery bullshit
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I platinumed Dark Souls in 10 days.
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>>381902849
I went in spoilt and still took 60-80 hours my first time because the environments are fucking elder god tier. Dark Souls made me appreciate architecture and environment so much I frequently spent an hour or more just clearing an area and walking around looking at all the details. It struck me so hard I routnely do that in all games now.
Also invading, farming for the Bluemoon Covenant, farming chunks, grinding levels, etc added at least 10-20 hours.
It's just more fun to take my time through this.
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>>381905614
>bosses overwhelmingly consist of learning roll timings and attack timings

literally every soulsbourne boss sans chaos bed,
kill yourself
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>>381906917
I killed andre
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>>381904705
>Yeah, that guy on the tower is the most OP enemy in the game
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>>381906926
>Got 75% through the game
>Decides to quit then.

Fuck you faggot.
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>>381895756
I got a ps3 a few months ago and a friend gave me that along with som other games he never plays anymore. Literally couldnt even beat the first level. This is why i only fuck with nintendo other games are too hard for non hardcore nerd gamers
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>>381903531
Those are objectively the highest quality games out of all Soulsborne titles if you ignore the rough edges in DeS. I approve of this anon.
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>>381907141
Wowee. What prompted you to do that? You killed the giant blacksmith too?
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>>381895756
>can't beat the titanite demon in undead parish

Just fucking run past him, every titanite demon in the game is optional, and the area behind him isn't even required until later in the game. Once you git gud later on you'll wonder why you even thought the one in the undead parish was difficult
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>>381907078
>I went in spoilt and still took 60-80 hours my first time because the environments are fucking elder god tier.
But they are actually really basic and not good at all. The only impressive thing I can think of was all the background shit in Anor Londo that isn't even explorable.
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>>381907141
It better've been by accident.
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>>381906926
>I beat Demon's souls at around 60 hours
The fuck? That game is like 10 hours long. What were you doing that whole time?
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>>381907268
I just got bored, anon
this game isn't balanced
you either grind your heart out to upgrade your stats and weapons, or keep hitting the same enemy over and over for 5 minutes while rolling every 3 seconds
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Keep at it OP, I started on Friday being a complete noob and at some point something just 'clicked'. 17 hours in and I'm doing quite well.

Hit a brick fucking wall with Ornstein and Smough, though. I feel like summoning even an NPC is a cheap way around it but this fight is tedious as hell solo pure melee.
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>>381907752
learning to play souls
also 10 hours? that's fucking bullshit unless you play the game every month or so
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>>381904705
>that guy on the tower is the most OP enemy in the game
is this bitch serious
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Hey look its op
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>>381900295
Not even then.
"Just" go through Parish, Darkroot Basin and the Valley of the Drakes.
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>>381907832
>complete noob
>reaching Kenan and Kel in just 17 hours
I smell a liar
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>>381905104
You're right, I got that mixed up since I first heard it in respect to getting fucked online. I'll concede that point but the rest of my post still stands.
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>>381907832
What? O&S were easy as fuck with a halbred build. The fat fuck was so slow and I just mashed until I won
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>>381895756
>gitgud
Just play in easy mode, it's not like you're streaming or making a youtube video
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>>381906260
>I don't know what this status does
>let me just stand in it
Real 'hardcore' gamer
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>>381907416
I started to distrust the npcs after lautrec killed the firekeeper at firelink, I actually killed sif and quelagg before I even knew about andre
and I upgraded my weapon to +5 when I found the other blacksmith vamos and as many times as I played through this game I don't think I could find him if I tried to play now
my first playthrough was wild
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>>381906409
Nigga you think that's bad? In my first playthrough I unironically leveled Resistance when I hit Blighttown. The only reason I got through despite my stupidity was a lucky BKS drop from the first black knight.
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>>381907697
read
>>381908427
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>>381908427
that fucking part
it's been years and I'm still mad
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>>381907754
>grind your heart out
you can easily max out several weapons without grinding once. You can also soft cap several stats without needing to backtrack once
>for 5 minutes
not even close.

You were bad at the game and were playing at a level far below what most people experience. That's fine, but if you think that's the standard DS experience, you're incorrect. You were playing poorly, that's all.
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>>381907234
>>381907989
>reactionimage.jpg

Not him but he's not wrong, Djura's probably the hardest fight in the game (assuming you even bother fighting him at all, and you fight him immediately, and you don't cheese him).
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>>381908549
I killed him because I needed humanity for the gargoyle fight to summon solaire

His ring is crazy good though
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>>381908427
>killed sif and quelagg before I even knew about andre
How did you get to the forest with seeing him?
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>>381908630
>you can easily max out several weapons without grinding once. You can also soft cap several stats without needing to backtrack once
sure, if you know the entire game and are not playing for the first time
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>>381908427
>mfw that part
>mfw they did it again in DS3
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>>381901934
The game discourages fighting Chaingun McStakeDriver anon. You're better off ignoring him for now, he's strong and ridiculously hard to fight on top of a small tower unless you cheese him.
Iosefka I've never had a problem with so I don't know why you can't beat her.
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>>381908913
probably the key
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>>381908913
*without

>>381909103
Oh, right.
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>tfw I didn't found the gargoyles until after the swamp shit and finding the Demon Ruins
>tfw the fight was so comically easy because I was so overpowered
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>>381908913
I saw the path that led up to him, went into the church and kept running back from the firelink bonfire after I found the elevator
after I beat them I used the homeward bone and went through the valley of drakes, I just kinda forgot about that path and was excited to see if I was strong enough to go through the areas I couldn't before
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>>381896968
>artificial difficulty
Nigga you don't even know what you're on about
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>>381901116
It's gotten better with the final DLC patches. I went for a heavy armour build, and had some decent fun with it. So long as you get your attacking stats in order and do solid damage, and slap a good chunk of vitality in, you can endure a great deal of damage comparatively.

Don't get me wrong, poise still sucks, but that's why you just fight more aggressively with a ultra-greatsword or some other huge weapon for the mid-swing poise.
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>>381899842
I think a better question is, how could he lose 5,000 souls trying to get past the first enemy after a bonfire, which is almost directly above it?
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>>381907629
>All those crumbling ruins.
>Imagining what this shit would've looked like if it wasn't wrecked to hell and if people still lived here.
>That fucking interconnected world design that makes my dick hard.
>I'm a fag for medieval European designs.
>Forgot to mention the armor/weapon designs.

You may not like them but I was fucking fascinated man. Of course this was years ago.
I can't argue about the fucking 2 meter wide houses in Lower Undead Burg though, that shit is fucked.
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>Had to fight the Tomb of Giants only to find the path is blocked at the end and then had to go back all the way to the secret bonefire in the catacombs
That made me angrier than the archers in Anal Londo
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>>381907234
Bloody Crow is definitely harder but to be fair at least you don't have to fight him on top of that damn tower. You're never more than a single dash away from Djura so it's harder to dodge his gun and he can fuck your day up immediately if he shoots you. Atleast you can push his ashen ass off.
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>>381909769
Went to tomb of the giants without sunlight maggot or any light spell

HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND
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>>381895756
Don't listen to any one on this tread, don't grind, try all the weapons you might find, don't upgrade anything until you are sure, practice, find a good ol' hollow and do some sparring to practice your dodge and weapon move set, l2 spacing and don't be afraid to explore.
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>>381910063
Same, I just went with a lantern
That I admit, is way cooler. Harder but way cooler.
It's exactly what I wanted from Twilight Princess' caves.
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>>381906427
grinding is fun in this game tho because the combat doesn't suck ass
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once you've beaten all the souls games and possibly other souls-likes you will look back to your first playthrough and feel like a complete retard and realize that the games are super fucking easy and you were just retarded. this is how i feel after beating demons to 3
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yea dark souls is pretty difficult. people on 4chan just say otherwise because they've practiced souls for years now, and they're trying to boost their egos by claiming how easy the game is.

even now someone was getting ready to respond to my post with "no, the games are genuinely easy and here's why:" and they were just going to list off a bunch of irrelevant shit that doesn't change the fact first-time players will die a lot.
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>>381895756
Typical first playthrough.

Most people hit the wall in undead burg, seems you made it a bit farther.

Everyone has that point they are like 'dis impossible' and then they focus and actively try to improve.

Dont quit fren
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>>381908950
are you telling me that people are guaranteed to miss items on their first playthrough or that you personally were incapable of finding them? They don't barely give you enough, they give you a surplus of them.

Like I said, you personally were bad at the game.
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>playing DS1 vanilla
>get cursed by a frog
>don't know how to get uncursed
>look on the internet
>I have to walk for a long time and pay a huge number of souls to cure it
>grind, pay the souls, go back to the area I got cursed
>get cursed again
>try to quickly quit the game so as to remove the curse
>restart the game
>after loading, appear next to the frogs, cursed, with them agro'd and about to strike
>frogs somehow DOUBLE the curse
>die
>now have curse x2
>find out I now have to pay double to remove the double curse
>never play again
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>>381910864
It's not hard so much as it has an expected difficulty level, with spots of the game being overly difficult because of jank.
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>>381895756
keep trying anon, U will get better and 5000 souls is nothing. to beat dark souls u must first break urself against the game
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>>381911143
LOL
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>>381909769
>Anal Londo

Get poison arrows, stand just outside the range of theirs arrows, shot a few normal arrows until you hit the fuckers, now shot poison arrows at them, they will not do any damage buy the poison will build up, eventually the fuckers will die, while you just can do poses mocking those fags.
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