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FINAL FANTASY XIV STORMBLOOD

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Are you still having fun with SB?
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Why is Refulgent Arrow its own skill instead of it just modifying Straight Shot when you get Straighter Shot.

How does that compute.
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I've already gotten to ilvl 314 without very much grinding at all

It feels way more grindy pushing my machinist up with mostly frontlines
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i want to cum on her face
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As a SAM, when do I use Diversion to not ripoff aggro of the tank?
I used it before doing Midare setsugekka > Meikyo shisui > 3 finisher > Midare setsugekka but I still steal aggro from the tank after a while.
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>still no dog girls
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>>381894941
Tell your tank to get out of DPS stance for a little while at least
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>>381894892
this frontline grinding is pretty stupid but its not like i can go do stormblood fates or something

maybe fates will be useful when they introduce the new relic lines
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>>381894998
>maybe fates will be useful when they introduce the new relic lines
Fat chance, they said that the new relic stuff will be based on the SB diadem.
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To continue my rage from the last thread

Do I just fucking poach members. These faggots have 2 more full FCS on the same damn server thinking this is an empire. I just want a well knit friendly fc who helps and talks to each other. Its not fun when an eligible person gets snatched up in an instant
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>>381894842
Sometimes you need straight shot proc for, I don't know, straight shot?
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>>381894998
I wish they would look at how people get XP and try to fucking do something to adjust how everyone is just farming PoTD/PvP all day everyday.

Why aren't sidequests affected by armory bonus?
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>4 days into Expansion
>2 days into being able to do anything past Raubahn
>ANYONE FOR SHINRYU NM

Not sure if I was mad or disappointed that Shinryu wasn't a surprise 2nd Raid tier in 4.2

The actual fight was cool but I really don't want to see the Minstrel's Ballad version.
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>>381895101
You're either going to have to transfer or start sniping new players if you care that much.
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>>381895101
>eligible person

elaborate on this
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>>381895108
Why would you waste your proc on Straighter shot when you could just do Refulgent -> Straight Shot. I'm just saying they could've just modified Straighter Shot to be Refulgent Arrow and give/refresh Straight Shot and it would've saved the button. It just feels weird.
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>>381895101
The fun fact is those FC's are probably empty and they never delete members.
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>>381895101
>G
Fuck those cunts.
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>>381895213
Thanks for the spoiler, asshole. I accidently saw the name while scrolling down to make a comment about something else.
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>>381895441
They actually work with some sort of pyramidal system
The top raid and do stuff together, if people do well they can join as sub members, you can get in raid by doing stuff like gathering/crafting stuff for them....etc
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>>381895292
No way am I letting these fags win
>>381895307
ANYONE who can receive an FC invite and is looking to join one. They go through the player search list and invite an fcless person. When I first made an alt here about 15 of their officers whispered me asking to join
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Stormblood cutscenes in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mexolv0Z178
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>>381895738
They used that a bit too much. I don't think they needed to have text for it.
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>>381894695
desu, if they release DQX in English, I'd rather be playing that.
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>>381895134
all those sidequests ill never do. there are even a ton in heavensward i skipped and i did like 4 of them in stormblood

i have two 70s now and for the most part all i did was run around auto attacking in frontline and running in circles
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Any AST bros ITT?

When do you use Sleeve Draw? If I use it when I don't have any cards, I end up with Spire in my Spread, and you can't even discard it now.
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>>381895134
PotD was a mistake and no doubt a reason for the server fuck ups
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>week since release
>servers still 90k when doing instanced stuff
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Did they increase the EXP given in PoTD?
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>>381896064
>playing on balmeme
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>>381896072
indirectly with the armory bonus going from 50% to 100%, yes.
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>>381894941
The best way to not rip aggro from the tank as SAM is to get a tank who knows what the PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THEIR JOB IS
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>>381895981
The worst part is there's a shitload of sidequests now so if you do ALL of them its an okay amount of experience but the effort involved makes it seem like a waste unless the storyline for it was actually interesting.

As long as I've played this game I don't understand how they view sidequests, the XP is pitiful and most of them are just basic collect 10 boar hides/talk to this person. There is no reason they can't be affected by armory as a way to help alts level.
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>>381896141
I don't get armory bonus.
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Just beat the story, it was alright. Not really interested in the weekly grind coming up but I will do the new raid tier on Normal and stuff. More interested about DoL and DoH for now.
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>>381896023
I hate healing. I main BLM so the thought of healing was stupid to me. Then I tried AST and found I'm really enjoying it. The difficulty shifted in an unexpected way. Instead of me against the mobs, it becomes me against my party. The difficulty of the content is determined by your group and not the mobs in it. I was pleasantly surprised. And a little dismayed.
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>>381896128
this is on one of the preferred servers. i mean i can log back in just fine but the disconnects are extremely annoying
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>>381896187

Has the game changed so much that DPS can rip off tanks even if they aren't doing full enmity combos every time? I stopped right at the start of HW and even then, I never EVER had to do enmity combos every time (I alternated).
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>That revamped PvP
this is fun as fuck, at least as a DRK
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>>381896414

WAR cant hold aggro for shit anymore.
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God damn I was already happy with the PLD changes at level 60 but holy spirit is some good shit
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>>381896436
Removing PvP from the main game was the best idea.
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>>381896464
They're wearing i270 STR rings.
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>mfw my annoying neighbor left Cerberus for Omega
Finally the retainerbell near my house is great again!
Only five left on my blacklist to fuck off as well.
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>>381896436
PLD and MCH are a lot of fun in PvP as well. Silencing healers with holy spirit or nuking low health players is great, I just wish they'd let us use cover on alliance members instead of only party members
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>>381896265
It's just a bonus granted to any combat-capable class that isn't your highest level class. It's a 100% bonus to everything you do from 1-59, then it drops to 50% from 60-69 as I recall. It's just there to make grinding less painful since grinding is actually all you can do once the MSQ is done.
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>>381896464

Holy shit is that true? They used to be the KINGS of enmity.
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I got to 30 on a preferred world.
Where the hell is that money they promised?
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>>381895645
>offered to raid with a small static that's part of the main guild in my server
>won't join their guild because I like my guild which is full of friends
>whatever they don't care
>we start doing good, when I join we clear content that they were stuck on for a month
>suddenly I have to join or I won't be able to raid with them anymore because their officers say so
>I get kicked because I still refuse to just be one of their numbers to flex the GMs epeen
This happened both in ARR and HW. Now I refuse to interact with anyone in their guild
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>That level 70 WAR quest
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BEYOND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS
ACROSS THE EMERALD DALEEE
ON MARCH THE IVORY STANDARD
UNITED WE PREVAILLL
FROM DISTANT SHORES OF OTHARD
TO LAKES OF ALDEMARDDD
THE LIGHT OF MIGHTY GARLEMARD
FORE'ER OUR GUIDING STARRR
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>>381896869
>The SB BRD Quests
I felt like nothing I did mattered at all.
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>>381896713
I've never seen them have trouble in Susano or Lakshmi but they're pretty bad in dungeons, at least when they try to go into Deliverance all the time because they're a TOP DOG ALPHA TANK.

Sorta funny watching them try to relive 3.X while they get handily outdamaged by healers and lose control of bosses and trash pulls.
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Only thing Zenos did wrong was not accepting your bromance offer.
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How many PotDs now from 56-60 in Stormblood?
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>>381896832
My friend was led to being kicked out because her own private LS was large and the faggots at G' got angry my friend did more shit with her friends instead of constantly recruiting for them. Then they tried to get her back because they felt bad

If only noobs knew better than to join them
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>late to the ex trials train
>don't even feel like gearing up to do them anymore
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What's the sequence to turn pvp specific skills into mouseover macros? Like hell am I going to heal by manually clicking on a party member then heal them.
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>almost done leveling PLD to 70
>healer is next and only healer I have at 60 is SCH, WHM is at 50 and AST at 40
Should I just level SCH to 70 and hope for a buff or should I go for AST or WHM?
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>>381896869
>level 70 sch quest
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Has there been any word on when Shirogane housing sales will start? Figure I'll need to be there the minute it's up to snag a personal small plot.
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>tfw shinryu
Why did they do this? They know most of the playerbase is retarded
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>>381897582
What buff do you want? 30 dps spells, like most retards wh cry? Well no use to wait for it
As a healers they are decent, for Susan-o ex they are better than whm
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>>381896935
So fitting for BRD?
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Well, blm is beyond great now. So, yes. Fun is happening.
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>>381897704
Easier than knights normal during launch
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>>381897753
Power of Friendship yet again
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>>381894695

>yotsuyu will turn to the good side

REEEEBEEEDEEBEEDEEEE
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>>381896713
Probably because they used their enmity combo as part of their DPS rotation, but now they have to use storm's path to generate more fell cleave points.
People really should just give up and respect the content, this "i270 STR accessory" meme is getting really annoying, like the tank shitters trying to use "MLG PRO AGGRESSIVE TANKING" STR builds before HW's VIT changes and fucking up in baby easy content because they really fucking suck at tanking.
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>>381897582
sch will get small insignificant buffs most likely until ~3.3-4
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Reminder that potd and jump potions are one of the same, both teach you nothing and if you complain about jump potions you should also complain about 1-60 potd players who also, dont know how to play
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>>381897704
Funny how it's implied she is lusting after the warrior of lights dick
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>>381897787
I STILL don't remember Knights normal being as difficult as Shinryu. Granted I am on a Nip data center so maybe that changes things.
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Where do you get the AF3 gear
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>>381897702
"In the future"

Widely expected to be the 4.1 release. You have weeks before housing will open but yeah if you're on even a mid-pop server you'll probably have to alarm clock it to get the plot you want. If you're on a high pop server, good fucking luck.
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>>381897908
Job quest
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>>381897704
Not JP. We randos did it in 3 tries after noticing all the mechanics. No one even complained. After the fight it was all good game and shit,

Meanwhile my friend who plays in the US server had people buttmad about everything.

You burgers are retarded as fuck.
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>>381897919
I'm on a legacy server (Hyperion) so I figure I'll have a few seconds' chance when they go live.
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>>381896414
A tank sitting in tank stance just repeating their aggro combo over and over will never get aggro taken from them in a single target situation barring extraordinary circumstances (dramatic clvl or ilvl differences, dying multiple times in the same encounter) but this is a shitty and unoptimal way to play a tank. Most tanks want to do exactly one enmity combo in tank stance then drop tank stance entirely and never turn it back on (again, barring extraordinary circumstances)

This was easy to do in HW because SE wisely made tank damage scale off of vitality as well as strength, single-handedly solving the problems of raiding tanks wanting to equip slaying accessories to do adequate damage (and thus having shitty health pools), and giving tanks a scaling source of damage proportionally equal to the growth of a DPS's strength throughout the expansion, ensuring great enmity generation and damage dealing potential both in one master stroke. Everyone was happy.

In Stormblood they reverted the change to vitality, making it no longer increase tank damage, probably because of the change to the Death Penalty mechanic, which no longer decreases your vitality when revived, so tanks could theoretically do 100% of their damage even through multiple deaths even though this isn't practical because of tp/mp constraints after one death, let alone multiple.

So the problems both came back at once and nobody is happy. Tanks can equip fending gear and have ridiculously high health pools, but their damage and enmity generation suffer greatly for it since fending accessories grant tanks absolutely nothing for damage or enmity, only survivability. The problem is further compounded by making Stormblood accessories role-locked, meaning tanks cannot equip current-tier slaying accessories, so they've resorted to wearing HW slaying ones to keep enmity and try to deal as much damage as possible. SE really took a couple giant leaps backwards with the tank archetype in SB.
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>>381897902
No but bridge Nidhogg was similarly hard for the majority. It's the same kind of artificial bottleneck that Yoshida added so that people don't complete the game "too" fast and realize that there's no content at all. It'll get nerfed a minimum 3 times before long and the whole fight will be a miserable joke.
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I'm planning on moving to a tank soon, going from DRG, what would be a good tank job to work towards for someone who has never tanked
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Where to buy mount speed boost in zones?
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>MCH still top parse in Extremes and likely savage
>Xaela get their own massive zone, unique dialog, and tons of lore
>free transfers off of Buttminge to avoid the retarded 4 hour queues and ERP spam
Such a great expansion.
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Did this expansion make combat less boring?
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>>381894695
I HAVE A TEMPORARY FIX FOR THEIR INVENTORY ISSUES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO GLAMOUR LOGS FOR SOME REASON.

THEY CAN HAVE AN NPC WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL SET, OR LEAST LEFT SIDE VISUAL PIECES YOU CAN TURN IT INTO A SINGLE ITEM, SIMILAR TO THE JOB QUESTS FOR LEVEL 70 FOR THEIR AF3 AND WEAPON
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>>381897818
I'm so glad I never fell for that 'MLG PRO AGGRESSIVE TANKING' str meme, and instead focused on being a good tank.
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>>381897878
Where is implied that? She has mistbeard
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>>381897526
Can't you just PVP for tomes?
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>>381898221
Hahaha yeah I remember launch day Nidhogg, Good times. And oh boy did I love Wiping City of Salty Tears day 1.
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>>381898237
Paladin
>>381898237
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>>381898049
>le japs are good at gaming maymay
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don't want to start ffxiv general style shitposting, but some guy I've been adventuring with for awhile now just proposed to me, don't really know how to feel about it because he seems to be taking it super seriously and I'm really only in it for the white chocobo, our fucking fc went bonkers over this news though, suddenly everyone was acting like a giddy high school girls, I'm a male roe and he's a cat boy, what tier of marriage do we have to buy to get the chocobo? am I gonna have to drop 20 bucks on this?
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>>381898221
Shinryu isn't even Bridge tier hard. It was fair as fuck.
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>>381898251
anyone?
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>>381897526
the extreme trials a shit show atm, they're both easy as fuck but there's a huge amount of people that can even move over a line when they get marked, it's actually ridiculous how bad this is, now i know why people couldn't even do soar because they refuse to even move to do anything
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>>381898237
paladin is piss easy and very strong at the moment. the only issue is the class is absolutely awful to play until you get shield oath and doesn't actually start to become fun until you get total eclipse
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>>381896742
New world, PReferred is just free 15 days.

New worlds are only Omega and Louisoix
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>>381898295
If Yoshi didn't fuck with tank scaling people wouldn't have to do it

But luck to some people in omega savage if they don't change it back because people will be hitting those enrages
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>>381898404
sounds cute
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>>381897323
Someone answer.
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>>381898468
that can't even move*
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>>381898507
around 5 per level
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>>381898237
Lots of memers saying PLD is going to be the best in SB, but having leveled PLD and WAR to 70, and played both of them in similar level of gear at 70, I couldn't tell you which is better. Mechanically all 3 Tanks play the same and you're basically just picking the flavor that you like.
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>>381898221
no one had issues with final steps idiot it was steps of faith they nerfed which wasnt nidhogg
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>>381898458
Hunt vendors afaik
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>>381898552
I can barely stand a single run of PotD. Its just so fucking boring.
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>>381898552
Even with the new armory bonus?
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>>381898404
http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/eternalbond/na/detail/special_item_4.html?lng=en&rgn=na
All you need to know about your gay adventures.
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>>381898486
Yeah, this post >>381898191 Nailed it pretty good
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>>381898660
yes
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How meny exp is it for 1 Shatter PVP run from 60+?
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>>381898594
Yeah, that one. It's been over a year since I did HW content so I forget who it was, but all the dragons are one and the same to me, so I just called it Nidhogg and prayed that I was correct.
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Just solo healed Lakshimi EX and even had time to do dps, is it just so easy or am I a good healer?
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>>381898741
585000+
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>>381898293
I think the reason why they say they can't implement it is because they think people want a literal glamour log akin to the hunting log as opposed to a place where glamour could be inventoried. The excuse of "the server would have trouble moving the log data from zone to zone" only makes sense in this scenario since retainers and the market board don't suffer from this problem.
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>>381898741
Around 10% of a level per run maybe a bit more, fastest way to level solo if your not tank/healer
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>>381898567
Then you're playing wrong.
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>>381896436
>DRK
DRK's unmend in pvp give me PTSD of the templar of Aion who had also a lasso that could grapple people and make them come over to them.
Had abunch of DRK pulling me witting my group when I was in battle fever without being able to flee at all, it's fucking annoying and only on a 10sec CD.

Speaking of which, WAR also got shafted hard in pvp.
>No more Berserk
>No more Pushback to stack with Vengeance, Berserk and Bloodbath
>No more Mythril Tempest
>Not even able to stun like PLD and DRK for some goddamn reason
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>>381898801
It's easy as fuk, but that doesn't mean that you couldn't also be good.
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>>381898801
Lakshmi EX is pretty easy, but that's still pretty good performance regardless.
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>>381897712
>>381897821
Whatever. I'll get WHM to 70 just to out DPS shitters.
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>>381898870
Nah, I'm good.
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>Haven't played an MMO since I was 14 when my whole guild migrated when I was in hospital.
>Online friend told me to get Stormblood since he's recruited a bunch of friends and there'll be super fun happy times.
>Buy it and make my character.
>He doesn't like the race I picked so he blocked me.
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>>381898818
Then just make a glamour npc like the aesthetician's sibling who you now can choose all gear you've ever owned before in this boutique area to try it all on.
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>>381898425
>get instantly killed 10 seconds into the fight unless you can predict the future
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>>381897672
I dunno, it felt weird to see someone lusting so much on a Tomberry.
She was cute at the end tho
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>>381898946
whm is an allright pick ast is better though since se will just buff them even more
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>>381895484
If that name means anything to you you're fucking retarded for not expecting him to show up as a boss fight
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>>381898978
Your friend must be a roe or lalafell.
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THICC

MAJESTIC

BUTTS
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>>381898968
No im saying if you think WAR is 'fine' and even in the same area code of PLD in terms of how good they are you need to reevaluate.
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>>381899010
It was all mechanics from previous primal fights
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>instance servers breaking again
full party of tank, heal and 2 dps in queue, but nothing popping at 26 minutes and counting
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>>381898978
>being friends with autists

Fantasia will fix it.
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TELL ME HOW CUTE I AM

also, how long does the XP bonus on new servers last?
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>>381899107
He's a cat girl, I picked Roe because I like tall characters that aren't elves.
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>>381899120
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>>381898425
>Nidhogg
>unfair
What? Literally the only problem with Nidhogg was people miserably failing the DPS check. Compared with the utter mess of Shinryu, Final Steps might as well be Final Destination.
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>Tank for us anon!
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>>381899136
what can a paladin currently accomplish in this game that a warrior can't besides be fun to play
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What's the point of a large FC? It seems like a set group if 12-14 regular players would be the optimal number. Why do people go for FCs that have half the server?
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>>381899037
alka zolka is a degenrate
like most of the playerbase
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>>381898049
>You burgers are retarded as fuck.
Stuck on EU.

People are just as fucking retarded here. If not more so.
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>>381899297
>cats

No.
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>>381898191
It also has the knock-on effect of making WAR drop to being absolutely the worst tank, since we don't do anywhere near as much damage as we used to, have almost no raid utility, and to top it off, switching stances halves our stacks, meaning that stance dancing is pretty much dead.

Sure, we can do 6 fell cleaves in a single berserk, but to pull that off, we have to drop half our stacks, do 3 full rotations to build up deliverance to max again, with a storm's eye combo, then pop inner release, berserk and have time to pull off all 6 combos.

It's a fuckton of setup, and unless all the fell cleaves crit, we do slightly more dps than a DRK just following their normal damage combo, so the only time to use it is if you know you have a solid 15 seconds where the boss won't be doing any mechanics, or if you need to help with a DPS check.
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>>381898994
I agree that is what should be done, what I'm saying however is that everytime someone has asked the dev team they've specifically said glamour log so it could just be a lost in translation thing.
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>>381899136
Believing everything what the internet tells you without any first hand experience is a sickness my easily misled friend. I've been maining PLD and WAR since ARR and I can tell you that this game is so piss easy that whatever small variance doesn't really matter. What matters is the mechanics, and mechanically speaking, they all play the same. I have no firsthand experience with DRK but a guildie told me that it's the same shit as PLD and WAR.
FOTM rollers have never been any more pathetic than they have in this game because of how little any class variance actually matters in this awful game.
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>>381899090
I expected it, but not in this patch already.
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>>381899250
Goddamn you fucks thought Shinryu was actually hard?
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>>381895101
God they are the worst FC on Leviathan
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Just give warrior back the path debuff and remove the stance cost and tanks are balanced
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>>381899138
They're easily figured out and repeated mechanics in general, but not specific ones from primals. They literally only have the same names.
Hellfire doesn't require you to stand in a water puddle to take less damage, and Diamond Dust isn't the move that makes you slide around.
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>>381898049
Literally did it first try second/third day of release when all the casualfags and shitters were behind.
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>playing through MSQ
>Yugiri decides to rush off and try to assasinate spinnyswordman on her own
>my character actually agrees to this retarded shir

STOP MAKING ME DO STUPID SHIT LIKE THIS YOSHI REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>381897908
70 Job Quest
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>>381899458
They still need to revert the VIT changes and make Tenacity not shit.
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>>381899418
i dont but i went in a df group and they wiped for 30m no one would move out of aoes they would place the breats to cover the whole arena they just cant do simple shit
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>>381899335
Because for some reason people see large groups and think they will benefit from being in them.
Small FC is the way to go though. Mine has like 10-20 active players usually which makes it really relaxing. With the expansion and older members returning it's becoming chaotic in the chat with 40-50 people who most of which were friends at one point or another.
I don't know how FC with 200+ people manage
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>>381899418
Now tell me anon, where in my post did I say Shinryu was hard? I'm saying it was a very badly designed fight, friend.
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>>381894695
i'm still leveling my classes to 35 while im in the free trial, so no
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>>381899385
PLD is parsing higher. I have tested it. Does WAR have raidwide mitigation? Does WAR have a cooldown to use on the MT?
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>>381894695
No, I completely regret it.
All the server issues aside, tanks are cucked, healers are cucked, dps have 3 hour queues. Ex primals are boring, dungeons are super boring and basically everything about this expansion is terrible.
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>First day of PF on EU servers
I miss American servers already.
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Post huds.
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>trick attack is on a 60s cd
>tenchijin is on a 100s cd
What were they thinking? I can't even use them together
Should I wait until they magically refresh at the same time or waste tenchijin on a damp squib suiton.
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>>381899620
It wasn't? It was good.
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What makes her so best?
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>sch isn't fun anymore
>don't like ast or whm
>regular group has tank already
>don't want to dps because of queues when I'm solo
Guess I'm out for SB, thanks yoshi
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>>381899648

I went in with no expectations and it was alright. Dont know what fucking miracle game you want. I'll give you the dungeons and nothing will top Ravana. Overall, good for just the story with some hicups
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>>381895101
I used to be in G. Yeah they pretty much mass invite and usually get the worst possible people because of it. I was in the main FC for a while and it was just a ciche of regulars and new assholes of the week trying to hit on one of the girls that kept going on and on about how big their tits were.
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>>381899746
What exactly was fun about SCH before?
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>>381899701
It was, though.
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>>381899297
>that hair
You don't need to tell us she's a whore. The hair alone screams it
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What a sweet revenge from those A1S farm parties.
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>>381899297
>cow tits
no
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>>381898264
Fuck off lizard slut.
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>>381899881
>tank still pissy about the one time ever his job wasn't in demand for something
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>>381899783
Yeah but if its the story youre interested in, you might aswell just sub for a month and then drop the game.
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>main SAM
>thought it was going to be "LOL SAM" and being made fun of
>literally everyone tries to buff me with their abilities to do more big dick damage, all DRG share the eye, all AST give me blowjobs and cards
>commendations everywhere
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>>381896187
Wrong, you're more likely to lose aggro to a content-respecting tank than a DPS tank now because of the STR change. Paper tanks can hold aggro while lifelong PLD mains who never leave shield oath can't.
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>>381898978
Your friends are shit and you are shit at picking friends
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I think tanks and heakers just have to deal or quit. This is clearly the way SE wants it, making you focus more on your role than DPS.
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>>381897787
The fuck are you talking about? Thordan was an absolute cake walk even when people were fighting him in full levelling gear
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>>381900000

Nice get.
You are totally right. Im probably gonna unsub after I get done with all the uncapped content. Im not going to do the weekly shit ever again.
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Is alexander dead and gone? I've been trying to queue for it to complete alex 8 so that I can finally do 9-12 since I've just resubbed not too long ago but I've been fucking stuck in queues for over 2 hours everyday without a single person showing up in duty finder. Shit sucks man.
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>>381900157
It's the bloody launch window of a new expansion what did you expect.
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>>381899538
how do you reconcile reverting the vit changes while still keeping tanks scared of dying without shitcanning encounter design
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>>381900000
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>>381900157
>new xpack
>is last xpacs raid dead?
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>>381900157
Yes pretty much. Make a PF, ask FC and friends, shout.
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>>381899403
>I came to a message board for a game that I haven't completed yet and still care about spoilers.
/v/ threads are full of spoilers for everything your own fucking fault for coming in here.
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>>381900067
The problem is that tanking or healing is absurdly easy. If I make it my goal to just tank or just heal, this game suddenly becomes about as challenging as gone home.
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>>381899297
>western """"""""""""""art""""""""""
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Zenos would have been the perfect villain if he didn't kill random soldiers to show "lol how villanous I am"
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>roll 98 on doggo mount
>think i have it in the bag
>the shitty BRD that almost got the party killed twice and died multiple times rolls a 99
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>>381900157
In the same position here bro, been trying to queue into coil but duty finder is a bitch.
Dead content as well, dont know why
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>>381899692
Hold tenchijin for 20s?
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>>381900498

But he killed for the fact of failure or them not being in the field directly. He wasnt a bad as villain except for being kinda generic and really psychotic.
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>>381899881
Are even making those PF even worth it instead of just queueing manually?
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>>381900437
All of these issues can be fixee if they simply tune up the danage enemies do.
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>>381900560
>trying to queue into coil
For what fucking purpose
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>Susano EX has to be the easiest primal to date
>Still can't get a fucking clear for the life of me because people leave after a single wipe
It's Zurvan EX all over again. Just drown yourselves in bleach you fucking faggots.
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>>381900498
He still would have been shit, his only trait was being evil because he was evil, random psychotic villains are never good
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>>381899297
>>381900442
why does this game have so little Japanese fanart despite the majority of players being Japanese?
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>>381894695
I never had fun in SB to begin with
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>>381900580
You mean hold trick for 40s?
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>>381900628
Of course not.
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>>381900627
Killing people for fucking up is still insane. Hello?
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>>381900705
you arent looking in the right places
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>>381900365
Yes, because believe it or not, some care about using the spoiler tags! Shocking, I know!
So far I've been able to avoid any spoiler while posting about other XIV related things until that one comment.
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>>381900705
It just happens sometimes, popular games/shows don't catch on with the art community
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>>381900775

Yeah, but it served as an examole for his underlings. There's nothing wrong with it in that context. What would he do then? Doing fuckall would be even worse.
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>>381898191
>Most tanks want to do exactly one enmity combo in tank stance then drop tank stance entirely and never turn it back on (again, barring extraordinary circumstances)
One of the reasons this change went through is precisely because tanks had such an easy time maintaining aggro during Heavensward. Yoshi wants tanks to remain in tank stance for the majority of the encounter and actually have to use their enmity combo every once in a while instead of pretending it doesn't exist, and to only use dps stance while off-tanking or outside of dungeons. That doesn't mean that the change isn't fucking retarded, but it's very unlikely they'll go back on it, and since people are still doing it you can bet your ass we'll be seeing even further nerfs to tanking in dps stance in the future.
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>>381900694
I don't know what's worse, fuckers having the thundercloud overlap everyone and the boss, or just idiots who can't move to the other side of the arena to place their purple icon.

Is it really that hard?
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>>381900775
It's been done in our own history a hell of a lot of times. Do you expect a fantasy world to have our values?
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Anyone know a vid where it shows all the SAM skills in action?
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>>381900067
then they shot themselves in the foot

vit-only accessories don't help you generate enmity. tanks have virtually no damage growth while dps classes grow proportionally in power with their ilvl, which means it's only going to get harder from here to hold enmity. all that hp and nothing to show for it.
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>>381900705
>despite the majority of players being Japanese?
Might wanna recheck your sources, anon
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>>381900694

>doing susan EX
>everything is actually going smoothly for 80% of the fight no wipes and everyone is doing mechanics
>near the end a DPS fucks up the cloud positioning and gets everyone blasted which leads to a wipe
>it was clearly just a mistake and no one flipped out
>instead of staying to try again the DPS just types "idiots" and leaves even though it was literally only their fault

What is so fucking hard about manning up and saying "oops I made a mistake, I'll pay more attention next time"? Everyone clearly knew the mechanics and we probably would have cleared on the second try. Why are people so adverse to taking responsibility?
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>Chaos queue server is dead again
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>>381900701
Go fuck yourself. Zenos was entertaining as fuck and had a consistent internally logical mindset. I bet you're one of them famous that think villains are only good if they're practically heroes.
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>>381900842
pixiv sucks these days, they let westerns use it and now they've ruined it with their hentaifoundry garbage
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>>381900893
No we won't, since if they do nerf it further people will play tanks even less and nuke the queues even more.
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YANXIA
RICE
FARMERS
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>>381899631
The better question is does the WAR even need it? Will there be situations where such skills is actually mandatory?
The answer is no. Not a single encounter has ever been designed with a specific class setup in mind, because the game is made as sterile as possible.
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>>381900936
this is the biggest issue for sure.

Right now, it's not too hard to hold threat. Maybe throwing some more enmity combos than before.

But in 50 or 60 ilvls, dps are gonna be doing a shitload more damage, and tanks are gonna be doing moderately more damage. So tanks are gonna have to start spamming their enmity combo just to keep up.

Just give us the VIT scaling back Yoshi. I don't give a shit if the rez penalty doesn't apply to tanks, they're not gonna give too much of a shit.
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>>381901036
Being consistent means nothing if what you're doing makes no sense and is silly rationale for your actions. He was literally insane and just lived to kill for the sake of feeling alive. Thats bottom of the barrel villain archetype.
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>>381900931
Try searching on YouTube for "ffxiv Sam opener" or "ffxiv Sam sss parse," that should show everything in action. If you want a specific demonstration of each skill try looking for that in the same place
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>>381901036
>all you need to be a good villain is edge
No
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>>381900893
If Yoshi wants to make the challenge of Tanks actually tanking, then maybe give us more than the same cookie cutter aggro combo? I literally just press 1, 2, 4... 1, 2, 4.... 1, 2, 4.... occasionally ctrl + 2, and very very very occasionally, 7 and/or 8. If I didn't switch into my DPS stance everyo nce in a while i'd fucking fall asleep.
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>>381901119
Does that make it okay that one is objectively better? You guys pulled this same shit with PLD in 3.0. A job merely being able to complete content doesn't make it okay that others are better in every way. There may not be a need for PLD's mitigation, but you'd be foolish to assume people won't take it because in the real world mistakes happen and having that extra margin of safety is important.
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>>381901223
Not to mention that the damage penalty on tanks doesn't really matter much anyway because if the main tank dies you usually have far bigger problems to worry about.
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>>381900893
>People find ways to make tanking fun
>Nope, sorry. You have to do even shittier damage than before and sit there letting monsters beat on you while the DPS have all the fun. But hey, look how much HP you have now!

People wonder why DPS have hour long queues
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>>381901010
>loser script kiddies DDoS chaos matchmaking server
>squenix blocked them
>they try Aether instead
>squenix blocked them even faster
>they change protocol and go back to chaos
Enjoying the shed, eh EUbros?
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>>381900000
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>>381900893
> DPS need to have really complex rotations and interesting mechanics
> What do we do with the tanks? Should we add a third stance, or incentivse the risk/reward of holding aggro?
> Nah, just make their dps stance pointless so they have nothing to do but a 3 button rotation for the entire fight lol
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>>381901232
Consistency is indicative of strong writing and his rationale works in context of his character, which is all that matters in analysis, he's neither too predictable nor reliant on asspulls.

Talking about archetypes instead of writing reveals you as a fucking baby who thinks MGS is good though.
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>>381894695
Nope i quit that shit as soon as i saw the 4.0 class changes went back to gw2 never returning.
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>>381896204
>>381896204
Theyre like the only non instanced permanently available xp resource, and leves which are the same thing.

Basically i see sidequests as existing for something to do while you queue for dungeons, or when you dont have an armoury bonus

>4 captchas to post
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So I've given up on my level 53 DRK (160 hours playtime or so) on Balmung and I've started a new character with 100% exp bonus on Coeurl.

Good or terrible idea?
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>>381901434
>Thinking the DDoS is real
Fucking lmao. SE are just incompetent.
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>>381896464
Those are bad WAR, I don't have problems in dungeons unless everyone is attacking different enemies exclusively, in that case I can hold it but I run out of TP, and in single encounters I never lose aggro, hell I can even go in Deliverance and stay in that for the entire fight unless something big happens, in which case I just switch stance again, couple of Butcher's Block and Upheaval and I'm good to go again.

The only time when I absolutely can't get out of Defiance, is when tank-swapping and the other tank doesn't Shirk me
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>>381901434
Is it known who those fuckfaces are?
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>>381901680
Angry WoW fanbois.
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>>381901119
I'm a WAR main, have been since the start of 2.0, and right now we have fuck-all. Our DPS is absolute trash, we have no raid utility at all, and our survivability is pretty mediocre. I'm probably going to just switch to SAM for the rest of the expac, because at least that job feels like it actually does something.
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>>381901431
>people don't want to play tanks to be brick shithouses with huge mitigation tools, they're rather have tools to shit out middling damage instead

I don't understand, the whole fun of tanking is absorbing and reducing danage that would be lethal to the other prissy robe wearing caster faggots in the party.
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>>381901586
I loved guild wars 1 and i just dont understand guild wars 2, it felt aimless. But i o ly played it for like 3 weeks or so, and it was like a while after launch but before the xpac so early zones had few players
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>WoL
>slayed 10+ primals
>defeated Bahamut
>Defeated Ultima Weapon and destroyed Castrum Meridianum
>ended the dragonsong war
>solved the mystery and problems in dozens of dungeons
>defeated Thordan and ended a theocracy of 1000 years
>defeated the Warriors of Darkness
>saves Minfilia a thousand times
>ends (somewhat) the coup'etat
>is a mastercrafter
>has millions of gils everywhere
>dominates every combat and magic discipline there is
>faces himself and his darkness and still prevails
>defeated three high powered Ascians
>liberates Doma
>enrolls the full might of the Xaela army
>Liberates ALA MHIGOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>defeat Shinryu and Zenos

and still a virgin

will the WoL ever know true love? Haurchefaunt doesn't count, he died too soon
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>>381901634
Just move your character (FOR FREE) to another server you idiot
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>>381901729
this shit is traced as fuck, really grinds my gears when plebs pay for art like this
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>>381901816
Up to you whether or not the WoL is a virgin, retard, that's not up to the MSQs to decide.
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>>381900719
No, he's saying delay Tenchijin for every other trick attack. I don't play Ninja, but assuming you use Tenchijin and TA in your opener at the same time, your timings should look like this:

TA: 0, 60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 360 etc
TCJ: 0 100 200 300 etc

Where as if you hold TCJ for 20 seconds every time it comes off cooldown, your timings would be 0, 120, 240, 360, etc, allowing it to be used in conjunction with every other TA. Whether this a good idea or not I have no clue, since it sounds like a DPS loss to me.
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>>381901780
I honestly blame Warriors, I'll never forget the WAR in my A12S progression group

>You know you could survive that tankbuster if you were in Defiance right?
>"Why would I do that?"
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>>381901780
Because when you have enough mitigation to survive a fight just fine, more doesn't help. It's like healing.

Oh you can pull big dick heals? Well you only need medium dick heals. More heals that are better spent on DPS is a waste
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>>381900868
stop whining for the sake of whining, there's a ton of people here that don't use spoiler tags, this isn't anything remotely new.
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>>381901816
It was pretty laughable when Zenos came in and whooped our asses. He can't possibly compare to like half the things we've killed in the past.

When the fuck are we getting a delevel?
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>>381901780
If tanking was more involved, I wouldn't mind, but fuck me the only time it's even slightly interesting is when there are tank swaps and tankbusters, which is like 1% of the content.
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>>381900061
complete horseshit
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>>381901842
whoa I never thought of that m8

nah I'm pretty much convinced the bonus is better
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When the fuck does Paladin get fun? The ARR leveling dungeons feel dull and PotD doesn't teach shit.
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>>381901807
I get you, its because there so much to do and its horizontal progression so that ilvl carrot stick in FF14 isnt there you just gotta make your own goals.

I can say i just leveled my sorc to 80 i already had an 80mesmer and i have yet to find empty zones sometimes the huge meta events can't be done till u get 100+ ppl in zone but thats about it.
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>>381901729
Is that some Soranamae?
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>>381902035
>>381901816
> Yfw based on power levels alone, Zenos could have slain Nidhogg, beaten Bahamut, destroyed Ultima, killed Alexander, and every single primal
> He didn't feel like doing it though.
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>>381902150
right after you buy a leveling boost :^)
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>>381901816
>defeated three high powered Ascians
In fairness they basically defeated themselves because they're retarded.
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>>381901586
I might actually go back to GW2 as well.
What are the current limitations for people who bought it while it was still B2P?
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>>381902152
I want to like GW2 but getting Ascended gear outside of like rings, trinkets and accessories is a pain in the ass and I don't think you could do raids with full ascended accessories but orange weapons and armor so your best bet is to just craft them.
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>>381902035
>>381902258

It's possible his magitek infusion was somewhat recent.
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Why are bards the biggest mongs in DF?
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>>381902258
But how the fuck did Zenos even get that powerful? Aren't Garleans just kinda shitty Eorzeans? I doubt that even with constant training and other biological modifications he could compare to all we've been through + our Echo, at least before he became a Resonant.
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>>381900868
People have been posting spoilers since day1. I got spoiled about Gosetsu not actually dying and I was ahead of the curve by a large margin.
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>>381902002
Which means that the problem lies in the fact that the added mitigation from tank stance is not actually required to survive an encounter. Which ultimately means the buck stops once again at raid design.

Ultimately, over half of this game's flaws can be attributed to raid design which, while flashy, thematic and really cool, is actually godawful once you look past that.
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>>381902452
They're magicless shitty Eorzeans who get their power through technology.
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>>381901363
>Does that make it okay that one is objectively better?
No, I wish all the Tanks had their own niche with mechanics that play into those niches. But in FF14 your only choice is between a sub optimal one and a better one. This isn't like other MMOs where there are some classes that are just so shit that you literally shouldn't, or even in worse cases, can't play as. Point is that people are taking these tier lists too seriously in this game and then you have people asking what they should play as if some choice is impossibly bad. It isn't.

>but you'd be foolish to assume people won't take it because in the real world mistakes happen and having that extra margin of safety is important.

Oh for sure, and the extra mitigation might make a different in many fights, but for the most part, when people fuck up in FF14, you're going to wipe regardless.

>>381901743
I wouldn't say we have fuck all. Playing a WAR is now a lot more fun than it has been before, but I feel the sting of loss in our survi as well. I miss Bloodbath so much. But on the other hand, WAR was always supposed to be the less tanky option who dealt more damage.

ultimately, I'd say all the Tanks are in a flux right now. PLD might be clearly the most optimal choice, but looking at the whole tank role itself, they all seem to lack any identity that goes beyond visual flavor. So in a way I'd say that the PLD is kinda lame as well.
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>>381901586
I refuse to play GW2 until they accept that the trinity is mandatory for a good modern theme park.
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>>381902002
>>381902063
But being able to make that FUCKHUGEDOOMDEMONFIST tink off your armor is fun into and of itself. At least it should be but for some reason people NEED their DPS validation. Now I'm not saying that tanks need to be doing absolute shit damage either, but hell I see tanks getting more excited about their damage output than DPS players half the time.
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>>381902414
>Always jumping around for no reason

I don't even know
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>>381896935

made Vorsaile seems like a bro, but thats about it.

I still think the Bard 30-50 is best
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>>381896436
DRK is objectively the most fun PVP job to play especially if you have a pocket heal slut.
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>>381902371
You can do raids with orange gear just fine ascended gear is better only time you need the ascended gear is for higher levels of Fractals of the Mist for that agony resist.
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>>381902035
>>381902258
Isn't there a thing about the WoL literally becoming stronger against primals?
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>>381902452
How the fuck did WE get that powerful. I used to think it was Hydaelyn fuckery, but we got even stronger when we had our connection to her cut off, and now that she's basically fucked off to another world / is mostly dead, we're still consistently able to job pretty much anything.

Could Zenos have been Zodiark's champion?
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>>381902452
He was trained since a child every day by professional warriors
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>tfw no tank or healer friend on aether to do roulettes with
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>>381894695
>Are you still having fun with SB?
They butchered my job and I can barely log in and do stuff so no. I cancelled my sub but SE will get away with it again because nobody else will do the same.
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>>381902150

PLD is suffering until level 54 and even then it only gets marginally more interesting. 60+ is pretty good though.

I have no idea how people actually played PLD prior to SB without falling asleep.
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>>381902661
Echo is hella thing mate. We're essentially Goku.
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>>381902518
The trinity is there, there just no cookie cutting in the game, if you goto raids of higher level fractals team get regimented but its a love it or hate it thing.

I personally love the fact you see different specs all the time everywhere.
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>>381902542
>Through Creator our WAR OT is begging for solo balances every single fight
>Always talks about WAR is the best class
>SB comes out
>He instantly switches to PLD to second he hears they have higher DPS
Ban all classhoppers
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>>381902736
>I have no idea how people actually played PLD prior to SB without falling asleep.
Because it was the only option until they fixed WAR in 2.1 or something.
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>>381902661
The Ascians are Zodiark's champions.
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>>381902661
>spoiler
>he fell for the Hydaelyn lies

he's not neccesarily a good guy, an Hydaelyn is a not the good guy either
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>>381902351
You just dont get to do the older living world stuff i believe and yeah you still gotta buy Heart of the Thorns.
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>>381902781
>>381902578
>>381902152
>>381901586
>>381902881

Are you playing GW2 on a toaster? What's with the low resolution?
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>>381901780
I can't speak for others, but for me it's just like a step up in difficulty from the boring DPS jobs. I feel good when I can position a boss effectively, budget cooldowns to stay alive, juggle tank swaps, and still do 60-80% of another player's damage.
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>>381902781
I've been thinking of buying the expansion. But I haven't played in a long time, I only played a couple months at release and some small bursts here and there after that.
Only class I maxed was Warrior.
Is the expac still expensive? Should I download the game and reroll something else while I wait for a price drop or should I just buy it and stay as a Warrior?
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>>381902930
That was a 100+ man meta event my laptop couldn't handle all of the pixels D:
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>>381902542
> I see tanks getting more excited about their damage output than DPS players half the time.

DPS are expected to do DPS, tanks aren't expected to pull sick DPS numbers.

Imagine if you saw both tanks die, then the dragoon somehow grabs aggro and takes a tankbuster to the face and survives, staying alive just long enough to let a tank rez.

That's what it used to feel like when a WAR managed to crit a fell cleave for insane damage, or make up for 2 dead DPS and somehow pass the DPS check by pulling off a flawlessly efficient triple fell cleave combo.
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>>381902881
Cool, I might get it eventually when I finally manage to finish the original stuff.
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>>381902992

Was the laptop bought in 2010? I say that because I have one that old and its the same resolution

Its time to upgrade my man. No one should be playing that low resolution for a game with that busy of a UI
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>Crit Bloodspiller for 9k
>Feel pretty good
>See PLDs dishing out like 6 Holy Spirits with 6k damage each without even critting
I think I leveled the wrong class. At least Blackest Night is pretty cool.
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If I were to get a pocket healer and tank, would lvling in dungeons with all 3 exp buffs be faster than potd?
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>>381902761
Plenty of people around us have echo and don't see the insane power creep we do.
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Everyday, UCT+1, 6pm the instance servers break

like clockwork
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>>381894941
dunno, as a tank I can always use Rage of Halone, Provoke or Flash.
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>>381903228
Yes but these people aren't killing Primals and other absurdly powerful entities left and right like we are.
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Just made an RDM, at the end of the melee combo (before displacement) non-enchanted redoublement has the "please press me to finish combo" border, should I use it again or just displacement
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>>381903248
On which server?
Leviathan/Primal is fine.
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>>381903002
if it's a DPS/Tank hybrid then why not? You're taking the holy trinity too literally while failing to understand that there has always been variation within each role until FF14 came with its sterile classes.
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>Level 70 quest chain starting in Rhalgr's Reach.
>Multiple quests each giving 1500 gold.
>Maybe the last quests has something interesting.
>Nope

What was the point in all that?
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>>381902967
>>381902967
Warrior more then fine atm, everything is great atm i think engineers are on the weak side and you can pick up HoT for 20$ now.
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>>381902851
I didn't fall for shit, all that foreshadowing with the WoDs talking about how their world was overtaken by light, and then Hydelyn's like

> "I-i'm just gonna go to the world of pure light and, y'know, """"fix"""" it by absorbing all the light and becoming insanely powerful. I totally wouldn't do that to your world though, WoL, don't worry we're tight. Too bad about Minfillia though, she's mine now lol."

I mean at least worlds overtaken by Darkness (The Void) still have some form of life. Sounds like worlds destroyed by Light are completely barren. The absolute endgame of FFXIV will probably be killing Hydelyn or Zodiark/Hydelyn after they merge into one being again.
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>>381903434
A shitty "rememberance" questline to make you remember all those wonderful times of wandering the shitty Ala Mhigo areas doing boring chores without being able to fly or go fast.
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thank god im out of that boring black lizard zone
doma castle better be a good reward for sitting through that shit
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>>381899706
Probably the part where she was constantly raped by her adopted family before working in a brothel.
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>>381903580
probably the best SB story dungeon, so yeah
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What the fuck is it with the GW2 posting? Fuck off, I'd rather play BDO.
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>>381903580
>Dissing the best part of the game
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afk smoke break
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>>381903684

Excuse me?
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>>381903165
DPS main here

I thought wars got shitted on for being fell cleave memers but now it's ok?
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>>381902258
Zenos doesnt habe the echo, he couldnt get close to any of those primals, and he didnt have a dragon eye to help him slay nidhogg. Hes physically stronger but not blessed with plot armor
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>>381895101
we also do mass invites and due to this we have a good core member group. of course the offline folks will be deleted, but it takes time.
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>>381903668
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>>381903668
desperate shills trying to stir some interest in their dead game
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>>381903684
> xaela edit when.jpg
I got you senpai, gimmie 15 minutes.
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>>381903761
You're excused for your terrible taste, but just this once.
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>>381903763
DRK main here, you're right, it's not really okay.
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>>381899631

Not him but it doesn't really matter now in regards to tank cds now that DPS can essentially handle most busters if they so choose. Assuming a standard dps comp of 2 melee/ranged/caster, you have apock, palisade, two phys viruses, 1 magic viruses. This doesn't even count the spread of shared tank role cds given to each tank. If this tier is going to be barely harder than Creator, then PLDs cds will be overly excessive. PLD is the better off among the tank roles at the moment by sheer virtue of not being as janky and weird to play but it is teetering on the edge of being disregarded in muh speedrun meta, which is the meta that people seem to care about. WIth the amount of complaining about WAR/DRK, I wouldn't be surprised if the QoL fixes or buffs push them over PLD.

PLD has excellent cds and raidwide cds and healing too. The biggest issue is that their kit is wholly defensive. Sword or Shield, all PLD is doing is building up their Sheltron and Intervention. Shield Oath affects Holy Spirit, unlike Bloodspiller's interaction with Grit. Grit also being the times when Blackest Night turns into a solid gain when used properly. WAR is a bit weaker with only Upheaval scaling with Defiance and Unchained sharing its cd with Inner release but basically, if both tanks are swapping off each other regularly as they should be, PLD's cd count is unnecessary. The tier will need extraordinarily large sustained damage for PLD to actually shine, which not even Gordias or Midas did.
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>>381903814
What are you gonna do about it huh.
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>>381903763
Bloodspiller hits for pretty much the same damage in or out of Grit so it's nowhere near WAR levels of memery.

Doesn't stop me from Delirium + Blood Weapon every time it's off CD tho.
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lets talk about swiming
>one of the most shilled features
>couldnt even make it seamless
>sea floor is completely dead
>no fish in the sea
>literally wothless "content"

what did they mean by this?
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>get to the first new dungeon after slacking for a bit
>only new person in the group
>die on the second boss because I'm a retard that didn't know what to do after getting targeted
>healer leaves me to dry
>accept it because I realize I fucked up
>after the boss drops healer goes oh wait you weren't the one doing shit DPS I should've brought you back
I don't know if I should've taken that as a compliment or not.
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>>381895101
I started creating Party Finder farm groups on Leviathan since I'm a tank and DPS love instant queues. I used it to assess if the people joining have a decent attitude before I make a recruitment pitch.

About 98% of people you'll find are already in FCs, but I'd say at least a quarter of those don't have any real loyalty to their FC and are simply there just because. It's tough to weed out people who simply want a free ride vs those actually looking to improve and commit to content though, and on several occasions I've found people who pretty much bumble through raids and die to mechanics on various fights.
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>Ageha's animation and sound
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>>381902186
Stop fucking posting that disgusting shit, it's bad enough that I have to scroll by whenever I'm browsing Sankaku.

Even that faggot who only ever draws that one C@ with different hairstyles in lewd outfits is better.
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>>381896625
you sound like a huge faggot.

In ArcheAge I understood why people hate each other, for example in my mixed housing zone we killed each other often... but in FFXIV?!
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>only 2 dots
>Bane mega nerfed
>Bahamut isn't big enough

No, I'm not having fun.
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>>381898978
>>381900063
^ fucking this
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>>381904026
Legitimately forgot it was even a thing? I guess it's kinda cool if you're a gatherer? You know your feature is worthless when not even AFK sluts are bothering to take a swim.
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HAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
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>>381904125
Not him, but I hate my neighbors in my housing zone because they're memers and keep custom emote spamming in their yard.
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What lvl can I start making enough profit to not want to kill myself as a BTN/MIN?
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>>381904324
Lvl 0.
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>>381903684
>pointless one-dimensional characters with scion-tier charisma
>bland geography and monsters
>weak dungeon
>easily forgettable quests
>"best part of the game"
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>>381896023

I only use it when I have a card I want in my spread or already used draw to RR what I want. You have to fill one to really make the most, otherwise RNG will fuck you over

I mostly use it to pull an extra heal from the Lady, and maybe draw a Balance/Arrow if I got nothing from my initial draw/Spin
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>>381900893
They'll need to do something about it because eventually you're going to get tanks in roulette that are fresh off the boat who can't hold hate against DPS wearing Omega gear. Healers will eventually out DPS tanks who wear fending equipment (a good WHM already does).

They add all these cool new mechanics and changes to tanks but the way things are going, they won't be used as much because you gotta spam your enmity combos that haven't changed at all.
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>>381903684

just a reminder that you conquered the Xaela so that they would destroy 3 miniature airships
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>>381903486
No, the final boss is going to be you.
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>>381904276
>rolls a 2
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>>381904180
You thought your shit got kicked in DRK/WAR got fucked, WHM/SCH got fucked if SE has proven anything is that they have no idea how to balance shit just like paladins in HW for all of it.

So i left and i play gw2 im much happier now.
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My first was sch so i get both smn and sch out of the deal but i recognize that sch is ded and healing overall has become a boring shitfest.

Should I level up ast or rdm? I enjoy rdm a lot but healing has been what ive raided on since 2.0. I know AST as good as I know SCH as well.
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>>381904617
>WHM/SCH got fucked
WHM is in a better position than it has been in years.

And SCH is fine. Just get piety gear.
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>>381904435
Yeah, Ala Mhigo was pretty shit huh.
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>>381904546
Let's remember that rag tag armies marched and took forts with huge walls and Garleans never even closed the gate. Also, Garleans have no legions apparently so a bunch of peasants can beat them.
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>>381904617

AST/MCH are the only outliers though. Tanks perform similarly well, Most dps are close enough to each other. For all the people saying shits broke, they've balanced things out pretty well for a fresh expansion. I mean look at WoW.
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>>381904546
The """war""" cutscenes were absolutely pitiful. Like groups of 10 people at most just reusing PLD animations over and over and over again in front of the other group of <10 people.
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>>381904729
>sch is fine
Honestly i disagree with this.

Its healing feels so weak, single target is less potent than rdm's and stuff feels like it hits much harder now.

I think they need some potency increases and probably a skill that guarantees a crit if they wanna justify AST's shields being so powerful.
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>>381904654
If you play dps prepare for those queue times half the tanks i know quit the game out of protest because of these changes I am one of those tanks.

If your gonna heal, do it as a AST because they fucking amazing.
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>game is so easy it doesnt matter what job you play
>"wahh my job sucks"

maybe its you who sucks
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give me your rage stories
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>>381904180
Bahamut's big enough. I love it very much, but I really don't need it clogging other players' screens. If anything why isn't Bahamut semi-transparent for other players. It's not like anyone else can interact with it.
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>>381905067
Did you consider that people care about playstyle more than optimization?
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>>381904881
Tanks don't preform similarly well, PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25% on the dps front with way better mitigation cd's.

AST, out performed WHM/SCH by a huge margin with better buffs and infinite mana. Please stop.
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>>381905163
I main SCH. It hurts. Rage ensues
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>>381904125
It was a fem c@ who would most of the time hang around the bell/in front of their house. When I came up to the bell they would change job and show off their shit. Even getting closer without interacting with anything. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

The previous owner of that house was a c@fag who did the same. Pretty sure it's the same person who just used a fantasia and changed their name. Both german too. I have never seen others in the housing zone act like this in all these years . I believe they were a bit jealious of me having a bigger house, maybe?
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>>381905249
>PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25% on the dps front
lol
prove it
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>chaos is being nuked again
rip
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>>381904276
Seen it drop two times in about 30 kills. Rolled below 20 both times
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>>381903486
Void worlds are stuck in stasis almost, in a state between life and death. In light worlds, everything is basically absorbed back into the lifestream, returning the world to a sort of primordial state where it can begin again. Naturally, it's also unpopular if you looking to, you know, continue living.

Still, with things being as they are, the Garleans would look downright sympathetic if their leaders weren't universally sociopaths. I mean, they get their shit kicked in for centuries by nearby tribes because they're the only people, and probably the only living creatures on Hydalin, that can't use magic whatsoever. I'd be pretty pissed to if I were in a world where everyone could create fire with a few words and heal the sick by laying on hands and no patron deity ever answered my prayers. And their response to all this is to build machines to suck the magic out of the earth and put the gods who had forsaken them under their boot heel, which is perfectly understandable and admirable.
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>>381905219
no because nearly every complaint is tied to how effective something is, not the sequence of buttons they press.
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>>381898978
Fucking kek are you baiting ? I'm not even talking about friendship or whatever, who on earth block someone because he picked a race in a video game ? Just go talk with normal beings, mental institution is not a place to make friend when you're mentally healthy anon.
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>>381905163
Fuck Tonberry ENG players. I'm so glad I couldn't transfer there and ended up in a more backwater JPN server. The bad Tonberry players (both in skill and manner) really give a bad impression to JPN players.
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>>381901102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOn98LH1304
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>>381905067
Doubt many people care about balance, but rather how the job feels.
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>>381904954
>I think they need some potency increases
SCH already has largeness + Fey Illumination for a 30% bonus heal.
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>>381895101
Just how bad is G? Currently in it and contemplating leaving because the place is a fucking bore.
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>EU duty finder is down AGAIN

jesus christ
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>>381905501
Largesse doesn't affect like half of our kit. Fuck off.
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>>>/vg/xivg

You're crowding /v/ with 24/7 generals
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Is there a way to make a macro to use abilities like they are in PvP areas? I could free up a lot of space on my hotbar if I could condense combo abilities down to a single button per combo, shave off three to four buttons with those alone.
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>>381904435
>with scion-tier charisma
Hey, lets not say things we can't take back.
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>>381905424
Well its no good having a fun job if nobody wants you there because they sperg over numbers. Ideally you have both.
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>>381903995
Make you my girlfiend
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A fuck me
>system error occurred during event movement

Can't get into a story instance.
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>>381905604
That would be a legit complaint if the mod would remove garbage threads and troll threads and we still didn't have enough space. But since they can't moderate those with any efficiency, at least this is video games.
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>>381905353
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/657

Spend 10min there, and you find out spreadsheeting in there aswell for you ppl who like to math.
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>>381905501
largesse and fey illumination effects 3 skills in your kit
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>>381905687
>because they sperg over numbers.
typically these are the kinds of players you benefit from not playing with in the first place.
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>>381895101
Former officer reporting.

It's shit.
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>>381905604
I agree, we need a 50th persona waifu thread. One thread about video games because it's impossible to discuss on /vg/, how awful. Let me go ahead and make a MAKOTO IS BEST GIRL thread
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>>381895613
>Pyramidal system where you can't even play the game unless you suck the FC Leader's dick hard enough and bribe them
That's fucking trash
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>>381901586
>GW2
kek
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>>381905883
>because it's impossible to discuss on /vg/

Just click the link retard
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314 SAM

Bored af, cba to farm for mounts in trap parties. Why can't I be a casual?
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>>381905249

>PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25%

Uh no.

>>381905802

Really, you're going to the OF for this. Not even a reddit link? You're using some outdated as fuck info.
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Luckily this isn't subscription based game, otherwise I'd be pretty mad
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DO NOT RESPOND TO THE AUTISTIC HALL MONITORS
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>>381906073
>he doesn't know how cancerous /xivg/ is
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>umbral hearts disappear when eno drops
>polyglot does not
>element gauge doesn't show thunderclouds or firestarters

Yoshi this is some bullshit and you know it
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>>381906073
Any post you make will be buried under cliquey circlejerks, attention whoring, ERP and so on. They actively discourage game discussion and you seriously have issues if a video game thread is what you choose to scream about on /v/
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>Inner Release
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>>381906147
>better spread that cancer over here
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>>381901992
its hard to feel sorry for war mains after the nerfs when most of them think like this
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>>381906215
>useless huton job gauge instead of a ninjutsu is ready job gauge
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>>381905249
>PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25% on the dps front

Factually untrue
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>>381905850
Former Founder reporting in

It's gud.
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>>381906147
We're rapidly approaching /xivg/ levels of cancer in these threads.
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>>381905802
There's literally nothing there that says PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25%. It sounds like you're parroting some bullshit on /v/ and haven't actually done any testing yourself.

The fact is tank DPS is pretty close and balanced right now. There's no where near 25% like you claim
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>>381906091
How about you actually look at the forums and see people posting there real numbers.
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>>381901959
You can't use during the opener.
I guess I'l just hold it until they refresh at the same time
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>>381906270
>I've literally never been to /vg/
Good to know.
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Rate my whm
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>>381905249
>PLD outperforms WAR/DRK by 25%
>still believing that dumbass spreadsheet
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>try sch
>que up for a trial
>realize I have no idea when to sacred soil

luckily nothing in pre SB does that much damage now but that's the biggest hurdle I have against playing this job
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>>381906270
If only you knew how bad things really were.
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>>381901743
>Warfag is sad that his class is balanced now
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>>381904916
even at small scale this shit felt way better in the cutscene before final steps of faith

the war cutscenes in stormblood were hilariously bad
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>>381894695
I would but European servers are still fucking roadblocking main quests a week after official launch. How do you fuck up this bad?
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>>381906501
not astro / 10
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>>381906501
Lizard girl#584684687687 boring as fuck
Also, go to /vg/
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>>381906617
>European servers are still fucking roadblocking main quests a week after official launch
EU servers were fixed in hours
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>>381906407
Okay so xeno running pld/pld is just for show right?

I'm actually convince that all of you who dispute the tank numbers either don't tank or play and paladin trying to defend how op is it, further more if you spend time on any forum thats centered around tanking everyone but PLDs are butthurt.

How about you show me Numbers WHERE THEY ARE DOING NEARLY THE SAME i gave you my refences how about all of you show me yours?
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>>381906340
can't really vouch for that when we're so big we need a g5 and we're still doing shit when there was only g3
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>>381906671
The DF is dead right now
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>>381906548
You basically never use it unless imminent raidwide damage is coming and your co-healer is low on MP. Even so you could probably get more milage from a Succ + Indom. If Aetherflow is off CD and you still have a stack lingering about it can be a good way to spend it to not waste it.
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>>381897323
>>381898507
From someone who actually levelled red mage in the first 2 days of this expac, I can tell you that, because the armory bonus doubled, the number required went down significantly. I'd say an average of 3 per level from 50-60
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>>381900000
checked
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>>381906617
What? I literally did Rauhban on EU the second day and its been fixed since.
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>>381906671
right now I can't do a main quest because duty finder is broken. i'm on Lich. This happened a day or 2 ago as well.
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>>381906782
yes the functionality goes on and off, right now it's broken. There shouldn't be issues this far in.
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>>381906806
Finished my daily roulette during last 3 days just fine
You lying
Also found crystal tower party for my 50 lvl rdm
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>>381906701
>xeno
lol

i mean if youre serious, he ran 2 war for creator(lmao)when drk and war were still better even from an autistic metafag point of view
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>>381894695

Ok guys I'm looking for an MMO to get invested in where I can find sweet people to play with and enjoy myself a la old school so I'm gathering information from the different communities of the games I'm interested in.

>how much stuff do I have to buy to get into this game?
>are all expansions mandatory or can I just chill in the base game for a bit to see if I like it?
>it is just a grind fest or can I craft my way up to the top and make profit with other players?
are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
>Is healing and support viable and
>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
>are there insane queues for DPS roles?

thanks in advance for all the responses
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>>381906701
>Okay so xeno running pld/pld
More fanfiction bullshit you're making up. Him switching to PLD doesn't mean he's running 2 PLD
>i gave you my refences
You literally didn't, you linked to the OF page that had literally nothing about PLD doing 25% more damage than WAR/DRK.
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>>381901586
>played at launch
>quit after a month

Is 80% of the playerbase still Warriors and Guardians?
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>>381906949
this shits happening to me right now faggot. I have also managed to do my roulettes the past 3 days, doesn't mean it's not constantly fucking breaking. It was like this for hours the other day
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>>381906701

>i gave you my refences how about all of you show me yours?
>official forums
>listening to a balding middle aged tantrum child

It's just common fucking sense. Circles of answering have tank dps as WAR>PLD>DRK.
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>People saying SCH is dead

Nice way to reveal who's "midcore" a.k.a "everyon is bad but me reddit all stars"
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>>381906501
I think Au Ra looks real fucked up. The best looking ones that try to have the least dragon-like features.
The rabbit-like race would be cool though.
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>>381906701
Xeno declared WAR to be ''unnecessarily complicated'' and that's why he's switching.

>>381907138
Nothing fucking works, instances, df, nothing.
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So how long until they realise EU is having server problems and move the data center to turkey?
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>>381907347
everywhere is having issues you faggot
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>>381907175
>>381906701

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6iul92/70_war_and_pld_sss_parse_videos/

Get fucked you fotm dipshit.
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>>381906501
Everything looks great except what the fuck's going on with your head.
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>>381907347
NA east coast shitters are clogging EU servers because they have lower ping there.
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>>381907025
>are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
pre endgame most people are nice, once you hit endgame and try to que for stuff you'll encounter the best and brightest of the internet. not moba levels but.. it's not pretty
>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
yes you are encouraged to dps as much as you can
>are there insane queues for DPS roles?
yes especially now with two popular new dps jobs
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Give me ONE (1) reason I shouldn't just swap into Deliverance with 100 meter when I need to do my Meme Release combo? It's only a 200 potency loss compared to dumping it on two Inner Beasts, which is about the same as what the other two tanks lose when they spend a GCD switching to their DPS stance.
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>caring about meta
>in a game where literally any job and any composition can clear all content
>in a game that isn't competetive at all aside from le world first meme
Explain this to me.
I played TESO while taking a break from XIV. That game has fucking leaderboards and meta builds and compositions to the point where only certain classes are allowed to perform certain roles because endgame raids are literally unwinnable with certain compositions, which leads to a cancerous meta-mentality where some fags will even kick during PUG dungeons if players choose to play with certain unoptimal builds even if they can still perform acceptably.

Literally no reason to care about the meta in XIV. It's like trying to be elitist where the elite practically doesn't even exist.
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>>381901340
Don't make tanking more fun by turning us into DPS with rotations, make it more fun by making dungeons more challenging.
Quit giving us hallways with easily-handled tightly-grouped packs of 3 enemies with a mile between each pull.
Give use more reinforcements or environmental hazards so we have to position ourselves well. I still think the first room of Aurum Vale is one of the funnest places to tank just because there's so many things to be wary of. Wandering mobs, environmental shit like the poison puddles, enemies that pull you in from a distance if you're too close, and so on. Not a single part of any dungeon in the entire game is as challenging or satisfying as this room and it really bums me out that they'll never be daring enough to try something similar ever again.
Same with trials, give us more environmental shit to worry about or maybe a steady stream of random reinforcement adds to keep our heads up with instead of an obvious "time to run around spamming Flash" add phase literally every fight.
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>>381907025
>how much stuff do I have to buy to get into this game?
Base + expansion but base is real cheap. There is also trial.
>are all expansions mandatory or can I just chill in the base game for a bit to see if I like it?
Not mandatory.
>it is just a grind fest or can I craft my way up to the top and make profit with other players?
Can only craft, but it's a different class. So it's not like you have one global XP like in ArcheAge.
> are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
They are nice but I am not on an RP server.
>Is healing and support viable and
What?
>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
You heal and support and dps if you are not a lazy cunt.
>are there insane queues for DPS roles?
Not really, ~7 minutes on EU for me, was like 14 before expansion.
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>>381907410
I am specifically referring to the duty finder problems we keep having on chaos and is happening right now, according to the lodestone it is a problem only being seen on chaos, no need to be a cunt.
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I'm veteran rank 2. It says I have 60 days? How do I get my rewards..
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>>381907413
What is DPS parse? I am a scrub, enlighten me pls.

People always say "you only do X damage by parsing"... what?
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>>381907227
>The best looking ones that try to have the least dragon-like features.

And here I was getting criticized way back for not having ENOUGH dragon-like features.
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>play whm
>let people who stand in fire aoes, hit constantly by same obvious telegraphed attacks die

You don't deserve to be healed.
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>>381907742
Delivery mog.
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>400 queue on Omega
what the fuck, did everyone transfer?
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>>381907070
How about you read up on his raid comps and im fucking done moron go troll somewhere else on the off chance your not trolling and you really believe this go fucking read a book.

>>381907070
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScu2VmuRt51eT-d3qmCahR-04Pfl9pqtxm10qoNy4fdyFTbSQ/viewanalytics

Most polls will reflect this, also feels that way in game aswell.

>>381907413
PLD Video 3119 DPS
WAR Video 3225 DPS
edit
DRK Video 2469.39 DPS

AND WHY THE FUCK ARE PALADIN WHO USE SWORD AND BOARD SO FUCKING HIGH

Also nigs can't properly rotate there dps for shit.
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>>381907808
You're slowing down the run by not adjusting. They wont learn.
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>>381907802
The idea of Au Ra is not bad, but they just look "off" to me.
Not that I support the midget race either, or the too tall ones that have only messed up faces.
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>>381900000
wew lad
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>>381907845
yes
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>>381907025
You asked kinda wring question
ARR is still one of mmo games, where you actually has 40-80hours of pure content before you reach max level and endgame starts
So if you aren't prepared for this, and want something like guild wars 2 or wildstar don't even start
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>>381907413

No but please saying DRK/WAR is too weak and keep sucking PLD's cock. It'll only make it more hilarious when DRK/WAR get buffed to become the "speedrun" meta and PLD becomes the shit for another expansion because no one needs a class overloaded on cds when there's already an excess of them.
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>>381907594
>Explain this to me.
Autism. Big fish little pond syndrome. Can't think of any other fitting descriptions.
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>Leveling roulette at 50 gives around 330k
>POTD at the same level gives just under 500k
>Best source of exp after 60 is MSQ roulette, with pvp after that and then leveling roulette

It's a little disgusting how PVP and POTD are the best way to level. You would think LEVELING ROULETTE would give more exp than either of those.
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I waited 3 hours to get in yesterday what the fuck is this
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>>381907025

>>how much stuff do I have to buy to get into this game?

base game is fine while you are leveling up, it's story driven so you will have to do shit in order anyway, by the way you can play a trial for free to try the game out
>>are all expansions mandatory or can I just chill in the base game for a bit to see if I like it?
see up
>>it is just a grind fest or can I craft my way up to the top and make profit with other players?
Confused by the question, you can level up crafting but it's separate by your normal exp bar done with quests, if you are asking if crafted gear is competitive then no, but it's not much worse than bis gear and it does help, personally I find it relaxing to do and it's a nice time waster
>are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
mostly nice, at least on EU, avoid french servers though
>>Is healing and support viable
this game uses the old trinity so it's essential senpai
>>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
there is an in-game joke about this, there's an npc that keeps crying she wants to heal only when everyone should DPS in the game, even healers
>>are there insane queues for DPS roles?
not really, 10-15 minutes tops at the moment
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>>381907845
That's not too bad on balmung the peak queue should be around 6k.
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>>381907872

>DRK parse was with full fending gear and str/tenacity/crit melds.

3k is 270 STR accs territory.
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>>381907872

>We want all 3 tanks to be able to OT
>Lol just boost PLD's damage output to match the other two without taking away any of their utility
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THEY ALL RUNNING PLD/PLD NOW?
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>>381907025
>how much stuff do I have to buy to get into this game?
FFXIV complete pack.
>are all expansions mandatory or can I just chill in the base game for a bit to see if I like it?
Trial mode is free and you can do up to level 35 content.
expansions are mandatory to progress after level 50, game works like a JRPG so you need to beat the base game's main story to start the expansion's main story.
>it is just a grind fest or can I craft my way up to the top and make profit with other players?
Compared to other MMOs? XIV is babby's first grindfest, shit is so easy you can even ignore daily bonuses.
Crafting can be quite grinding without money, though. Gotta get some cash first to invest on fast leveling methods. Gatherers usually is a good choice to start, but there are other methods.
>are people nice or are they just elitist assholes that boss you around?
Most of the time people are nice. Like every other game, elititism exist but at least it is limited to savage raid content and some "hardcore" FCs (player-made guilds).
>Is healing and support viable and
Mandatory, Duty Finder (auto-party system) will always build a part of tank, healer, and DPS.
>if yes is it an active role where you can still damage or are you doomed to stare at health bars for life?
Everyone deals damage, even healers. "Healing downtime" (everyone is at +80% HP, no party-wide damage incoming) is huge so you can easily DPS as a healer.
>are there insane queues for DPS roles?
Right now, yes, we got two new DPS jobs. Usual queue for them is 10~20min for dungeons, lower for trials (big bosses) and raids (especially 24-man content).
Everyone have the same queue time in PvP.
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>tfw only want to play tank but my girlfriend wants to play
>she plays Monk really well, better than I was expecting given she has no MMO experience besides Guild Wars 2
>but she only has 3 or so hours a day to play while I'm awaiting transfer, meaning I have all day to play

Shit, what do I do? Do I just level an alt as a tank? This is from 1-50, by the way.
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>>381907898
Telling them I don't heal retards and they leave the duty upset because their small brain can't handle it saves me the time of taking 6 mins to clear first room in AV.
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>>381907915
Roe aren't messed up, that's just rude.
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>>381906701
PLD/PLD is sufficient damage, easy to play, and amazing utlility. If you're trying to do prog, this is very good to run because you can survive longer with the amount of mitigation they have without having a huge hit to raid DPS.
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>>381903684
>>381903837
Here ya go
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>>381904276

>Kamuy

Isn't supposed to be Kamui?
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>>381907594

People just like to pick sides and argue. It's like sports teams. The reality is the tank differences are so minor they're not going to matter unless you're literally pushing for world-first kills. For 99.99% of the playerbase it doesn't fucking matter.

t. Raided mythic WoW as an Unholy DK until recently
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>>381907594
>tfw I'm a Nightblade Tank in ESO and you can't stop me.
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whens the raid coming out
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>>381907025

honestly all your questions are avoidable and can be condensed into one

would you like to play world of warcraft with less content but a final fantasy skin on it? if the answer is yes then by all means join the fun senpai
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>>381908221

The problem with roes is they only have one good face which EVERYONE uses. Roes have the worst sameface syndrome of any race. Thankfully it's not a big problem because there aren't very many of them in the first place.
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>>381908267
Fuck off Salzor.
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>>381908316
July 4th supposedly.
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>>381908173
Just level two class? Keep your main quests alone, so you can do those with your gf.
You two can also do daily PVP, daily dungeons, that's the easiest.
You can also do the Palace of the Dead together.

So basically you two do a few levels, then you can swap to any class you like.
If she plays DPS (MNK), you can play either tank, heal, or dps... anything really.
You can also level two tanks (PLD is more tanky, WAR is more DPS.)
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>>381908203
Ive literally never seen someone leave a dungeon when called out even when theyre objectively playing wrong. They just get defensive.
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>>381908420
You cannot stop me.
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How many runs would you guys say to take a class to level 50 by PotD? Armory bonus is in effect
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>>381908113
Its funny because its true.
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>>381907025

I forgot to mention that you should NEVER EVER buy the game on steam in case you decide to hop in, it will fuck with any future purchase you make because it will have to be on steam
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>>381908069
Your punishment for picking a meme server
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>>381908405

Game badly needs new faces or permutations at least for the roster of races.
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>>381897526
potd gives 60 verity at level 70
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>>381908652
I have it on steam and it really isn't a big deal

now if I were to buy it knowing what I know I'd get it off steam but let's not be dramatic
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>>381908234
Do you see this as an issue? As a DRK player i just left i play my class im gimping my FC and if i play a tank it has to be a PLD because the rest pale before it.

Not a fan of dps, i do heal but only if i have too.
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>>381908221
>>381908405
>>381908732
This pretty much. As I said they have potential but needs fixing.
The tall race females also need fixing for their faces, they look like drag queens.
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>>381894695
Free Trial up to level 35.
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>>381908896
What purpose does the screenshot serve?
It's a nice glamour, mind. Even if it's a lizard.
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>>381908652

>not paying your subscription by selling steam cards

lmaoing at this fag
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>>381908896

If PLD/PLD becomes a thing that will just push SE to nerf them even faster

Honestly the tank meta would be fine with just a nerf to PLD's DPS. WAR & DRK each have unique strengths but there's no reason to bring them when PLD has so much more utility and still does the equal or greater damage.
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>>381908234

All the mitigation in the world won't save your group from dying to mechanics. Tank busters are the easiest part of any fight and Intervention isn't going to save a DPS who gets 50k merked because he didn't pick up the magical cupcake in time. Progging quickly depends on your static's overall ability to learn and do things quickly and take advantage of all dps cds, not just tanks. It's not what meme class meta you thought up. WAR/WAR was thought to be the comp for Gordias until it was smashed down.
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is there anything more cringe than maid outfit glamour
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>>381908896
The only thing more useless than your screenshot is the rest of your post. Fuck off back to /vg/ please.
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>>381909016
It's more the proportions that need fixing than anything.
Femroes have pretty thin waists and no ass so they look like dudes half the time.
>>381909108
They need to just revert back to VIT damage and remove losing gauge while stance dancing.
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Serious question, aside from the 3 dungeons what is there to do at 70?

As I typed that I realized I forgot about primals, so aside from dungeons and primals.
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>>381908896
I think unless you're in world prog, anyone who think PLD/PLD should be the way to go are just parroting the people who are on a completely different mindset then them.

I think any tank combination is viable (sans WAR/WAR and DRK/DRK), and maybe you can feel good that your group doesn't have to rely on so much cushion utility to clear a raid tier.
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>>381900775
A army based on the Roman legion and therefore merit and the guy did not fight with his men on a critical mission and a simple ambush.

Oh I think he pretty much got what would any ancient army from China to Rome would do in such cases if not with heads missing.
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>>381909265
They need fixing in short.
But hey, all races could use an overhaul really.

Don't know how SE cannot spare a few artists to add and rework such content.
Even Blizzard fixed up their races, and there is no PS3 anymore either - so no system limitation excuse.
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>>381908517
You're doing it wrong then. You have to insult them and stand firm they're garbage
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>>381908896
>Actually letting your FC dictate what class you play

Shit FC. Also fuck off.
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>>381909108

Lower damage you mean. What does each tank gain in tank stance? Let's take a look:

WAR:

Upheaval
Vengeance gives potency spike per hit
Unchained/Inner Release

DRK:

Bloodspiller
Blood Price
Blackest Night is a gain

PLD:

Shield Swipe

The only thing PLD has going for it is that it can stack absurd mitigation for 1-2 hits. Still doesn't change that with Shirk, tanks are going to be swapping actively, in which case PLD's cds are a moot point unless this tier is extremely heavy damage wise which all reason stands to point that it wont be.
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>>381904729
I think it's probably okay too, and that's what people I trust have said. I just don't want to level mine, the 60 kit seems so sparse now. At least with WHM I can just vaporize everything with my new limitless MP when I get shitty DPS in DF, I feel like I'll be sitting there broiling away one target at a time on scholar and it doesn't seem as fun. I realize WHM doesn't have a lot of buttons either, but its DPS skills have more "oomph!" and great animations.

To be clear I thought scholar was pretty boring in 4 man before, but at least I felt like I was putting out a lot of damage and could spam blizz 2 on big pulls.
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>>381909061
Thanks even if it is a "lizard" its the sexist lizard in all of eorzea.
>>381909108
Idk about this remember 3.0 PLDs stayed gimp until 4.0 i fear SE will do it again.
>>381909182
K heres another one.
>>381909330
idk about WAR/WAR but DRK/DRK is absolutely shit, please atleast know what your talking about before you say shit.
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>>381909475
You do understand English right?
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>>381909475

>please atleast know what your talking about before you say shit.
See: >>381904617 >>381905249
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>>381909402
I run the FC....there is that right? You know playing for the betterment of your FC you fucking scrub.

>Can't into making your own guild.
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>>381909576
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>>381909475
He was saying that DRK/DRK isn't viable just like PLD/PLD you illiterate retard
Fuck off back to /xivg/
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>>381909475
>retard avatarfag can't read
Reminder to report avatarfags if you want to keep xiv threads on /v/
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Stop responding.
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>>381907808
>WHMs won't DPS and now they won't heal
Amazing
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>>381895101
Are there any decent FC's on Leviathan?

I'm looking for one right now.
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