General vidya armor discussion Do you prefer fantasy designs

>>381886882
Fantasy. I want to look badass, not like Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

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Historical

>>381886882
Realistic fantasy designs

>>381886882
I think there's a happy medium, but it really dpends on what the game's going for.

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historical

>>381886882

I like both, because both can look good.

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100% historical

historical > realistic fantasy >>>>>> high fantasy

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>>381887346

I like fantasy inspired by reality, like the Knight set from DASIII

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Realistic, always. It just seems cooler.

>>381886882
Historical with generous details/indulgence of weird styles.

I think basic realistic works better for RTS and Grand trategy though

Dark Souls

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>>381886882
Realistic, because it looks better.

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>>381886882
In that particular example the left is overdesigned as shit and the right is simple but stylish

But that isn't to say that fantastical designs can't be good, the artist just needs to know when to stop drawing

Plus real life designs can get pretty kooky looking, pic related

>>381886882
fantasy but not anime-like

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What about realistic designs that look like fantasy designs

>>381887463
I think you mean

historical > realistic fantasy >>>> high fantasy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"""""japanese""""" fantasy

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>>381887705
Well, playable characters in games tend to be high-status so there's a lot of room for high degree of ornamentation in the armour and fancy fabrics worn over it while still maintaining historicity

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I like both.

Generally though, fantasy wins most of the time for me since I like fantasy genre the most. There is just simply more to do in Fantasy games in general, and realistic games tend to over do it with the realism that it affects the fun, or it's buggy as hell and easily exploitable that it turns out strange.

Fantasy Designs, People who say

>Realistic armor looks better

Generally are autistic.

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Realistic armor can look just as stylish as fantastical armor while not being fucking stupid. Plus there's a lot of realistic designs that look pretty cool but haven't really been utilised in games yet.

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I prefer realistic but love all the quirky and stylish war masks. I wish more games included them.

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realistic, it doesn't have to mean boring

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>>381886882
>tfw realistic armour doesn't look realistic

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Both, as long as it doesn't go full WoW with extremely exagerated armor pieces i'm happy, WoW makes Warhammer shoulderpads look like baby stuff.

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>>381888675
Seems to have been ceremonial armour for Ferdinand II. Of course, it's not like it wouldn't be fully functional.

>>381886882
more realistic design with a splash of unrealistic exotics.

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>>381886882
Fantasy designs can work without going full retard.

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A mixture of both is always nice

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>>381886882

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>>381886882
Cosy, I want to feel warm just from looking at them.
>tfw dead franchise

>>381886882
Both

>>381889038
that armour is insanely beautiful

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realistic

>>381886882
I like a mixture the most.
For Honor, Warhammer Fantasy and Dark Souls are all good examples to some extent of what I mean.
It´s just lame that most fantasy games just go with the medieval European design. i would love to see some fantasy games tacking inspiration form ancient rome and greece

>>381887560
Wow, is this Rome two? Looks sweet.

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Realistic armor can get pretty fucking stupid

>>381889524
that looks awesome as fuck!
love all the little details and decorations. that is probably that make good armor for me

>>381887857
Don't fuck with Byzantine Judge Dredd.

>>381891163
must be some older roman armor. I thought they all didn´t cover the ears so that the soldiers can hear the commands of their superiors better

>>381891010

That's a pretty big fucking knight.

>>381891163
Shut up you nigger that looks awesome

>>381891336
u u u u

>>381890493
Is it just me or is every rome 2 / Attila screenshot always look like they're taken at noon or something?
It just has this godawful tint that makes the game look so much worse than it should imo

>>381887423
whats up with pointy helmets? was the purpose of that design to be capable of sustaining a dent without damaging the face?

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>>381890381
The DS its just the perfect balance in realistic and fantasy

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>>381891496
Yeah both games have this weird filter on them, I've never understood why but I think you can remove them with the GEM mod

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>>381886882
Fantasy can be pretty good as long as it doesn't look fucking stupid

>>381890880
afaik he sold it because he wasn't completly happy with it

>>381891864

If you have a flat surface on a helmet or piece of armor, you can absorb concussive force more easily and it's easier for pointed weapons to puncture. Most helmets except shit ones like the early crusader helms (that were eventually replaced) were domed for this reason, the points on the face serve a similar purpose. Imagine trying to puncture the face plate on that pointed helmet or getting a clean hit with a hammer or something. All your blows are going to be deflected off.

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>>381891864
I suppose it helps at deflecting downward blows and on impact there's more space for the helmet to move down on its fabric cradle before skull contacts the metal.

But I guess it's also fashion to extent.

>>381891864
deflect arrows

Fantasy, realism fails to convey power as even the most basic of handguns makes armor useless.

Fantasy is all about superhuman stuff, being above your sciency pew-pews

>>381891496
>>381892035
they removed the filter with the emperor edition release of Rome 2 but attila still has it

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>>381892565
Video games and media in general really undersell the value of good armor. A 16th century knight would be very hard to kill.

>>381892347

Nah Toby Capwell just switches armor like unerwear; he used to have a german gothic suit and sold it before getting a new suit of armor; the black/golden english armor is now in a private collection in south africa. Apparently the new owner had the black surface polished off in favor of the stereotypical shining white surface.

I'm a big fan of historical and borderline realistic designs, but I also like the overexaggerated look of Darksiders 2 or WoW. I tend to hop between the extremes on this subject because it's seemed really hard for devs to pull off the middleground and stay interesting.

If you went back in time with an uzi, do you think you could change the tide of a battle by yourself?

>>381893176
i think i heard him say that he sold it because it wasn't quite accurate in one of the videos he did with matt easton

>>381893314
>random arrow hits you

>>381893314

depends on much ammo.

if i had lots to spend, i would fire on the air to scare the horses, if not, i would try kill some of the horseman

>>381886882
>implying roman design is realistic

they were just a bunch of larping qweers. The viking design in tge picture is wag more realistic because you can just bull rush someone with the horns. Pierce their heart and kill them right away.

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>>381886882
Fantasy with some amount of realistic aspect or at least taking into account how one would even wear it. Dark Souls 1 captures this perfectly, with armor sets that could be real but have enough personality to set them apart.
If its too realistic, for me at least, it tends to get boring. If its too fantasy, most designers don't know when to stop and end up visual messes. Lords of the Fallen comes to mind for overdesigning. Everything in that is so literally edgy that its ugly to look at. Give me an Artorias set or Elite armor any day.
Also good looking masks are instaboner for me.

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The original hipster.

>>381892749
>even the most basic of handguns makes armor useless.

wrong
https://royalarmouries.org/about-us/what-we-do/research/analytical-projects/duplex-bulletproof-armour
also take a look at the armors displayed on this museum and notice how many of them have a bullet dent on the breastplate, that means the armoursmith that made them tested if it was bulletproof by firing on it
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@48.2048918,16.3641678,3a,75y,240.12h,81.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suTGxpyC_R5m0wZu8Tjxb8Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I have no interest in LARPing, leave the realistic shit to the grunts and nobodies.

>>381893620
They're both supposed to be Celts, not romans.

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>>381886882
Historical.

>>381893314

I don't think you would have enough ammunition to do anything yourself. That said if you could get to a king and show him the uzi and somehow manage to create ancient uzis for his army, then yes.

>>381893314
Depends on the size of the battle. One goober with an uzi isn't going to spearhead a siege of Jerusalem.

>>381893948

Ok, i admit i was wrong, but nowadays people who main handguns are either cops or low end criminals.

Does not change the fact that most guns will shit on armor, even if power armor was a thing, a 50. could still end it.

>>381886882

Fantasy designs in fantasy settings and realistic designs in games with a historical setting.
I like bikini armors in JRPGs and a milanese plate armor would look a bit out of place.
Overall I prefer a mix between functional and fantasy; it needs to look like something you can put on (visible leather straps, pins or cords) and move around in (articulation; textured or animated; no pauldrons that look as if they have been cut out from a WW2 tank, only little clipping).

>>381889703
Check out the armour of Erik XIV of Sweden.

http://livrustkammaren.se/sv/ErikXIVsRustning

Website is in swedish but holy fucking shit is the armour detailed

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I like both depending on the setting and the theme of the game.

>>381894421
A good rifle will harm armour more than a handgun. Guns did contribute greatly to the decline in use of full plate.

>>381893948
To my understanding modern smokeless powder allows substantially higher muzzle velocities than black powder does so breatplates capable of stopping balls from black powder handguns might not fare as well against modern firearms

But of course, the point you make is entirely valid, firearms didn't obsolete armour overnight

>>381894562
The french army had cuirassiers (ie cavalry with breastplates) up until World War 1. Industrialised warfare put an end to those guys, though.

>>381891336
for thou

>>381889524
For honoe actually has pretty good armor design if youre into that middleground of fantasy history.

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Realistic with a slight touch of fantasy
Also props to the faraam and alva armor

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>>381895043
Vilhelm's armour is fantastic

>>381894834

So, the US army is developing battle functional exoskeletons, do you think power armor could be made by armouring those exoskeletons?

How thick could they be? And how much fire power would be needed?

>>381886882
Fantasy with a realistic theme. Though a lot of game just can't get medieval aesthetic right. Closest thing was the Witcher.

>>381894917
It's such a shame for honor turned out like it did.
I doubt Ubisoft can pull another rewind and fix the game like they did with siege

>>381891157
Mod.

>>381894834
I'm pretty sure by Napoleonic wars cuirasses were mostly against bayonets and other cavalrymen. But yeah, plate armour did linger for a rather long time

>>381891321
Nigga its 3rd century armor. That would continue to be the norm till the fall of the west and by that time the Eastern Empire armies already have a distinct look.

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>>381895293

>>381895103
I dunno. I think the idea of power armours just doesn't work too well because of the cost attached to them. Even if they were thick enough to stand up to several bullets from an AK, they'd still get knocked out by a simple RPG, and what would they be doing that planes or tanks already can't? Making plate strong enough to withstand bullets isn't really the issue; it's how practical it is.

Image on the left is from Ryse Son of Rome. Which I think has the right balance especially with the roman armour which the developers said is meant to be an Art Deco vision of Ancient Rome it's really unique and beautiful

>>381895103
I don't think steel is the material of choice even for rigid defences nowadays (it's usually some sort of ceramics)

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>>381893941
>hating on Charles.

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>>381895424
That last one always makes me laugh.

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>>381895424
Number 9 is probably my favourite.

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THICC

>>381895305
Napoleonic Cuirasses were good for pistol shots at close range.

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>>381895612
Why were you hiding under the bridge, you fuck? I spent like three hours looking around for you.
>>381895627
Smashing!

>>381895475

Well, since most 21 century armies aren't deployed in their entirety like WW2, this wouldn't be a problem, after all, the US didn't their entire army to the middle east.

Imagine a squad of power armoured souldiers with miniguns.

>>381895550

Well, then why aren't tanks made out of these ceramics?

>>381886882
Fantasy that doesn't go full retard.

>>381895839
Looks like a monk who's ready to throw down with the heretics.

>>381895839
Most based order of the Crusader Knights.

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Historical
Fantasy feels and looks generic as fuck

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>>381886882
I prefer ROMAN

>>381895938
It is a monk ready to throw down heretical Turks.

>>381887957
looks shit desu

>>381895834
Different anon.
I might be misremembering but I think there's kevlar armor equivalents with ceramic because they're lighter and can spread out the damage better without it being fatal.
If you're in a tank, you might as well make it from the toughest material possible, mostly disregarding weight which can be countered with better and stronger engines. A human can only withstand so much weight/efficiency ratio.

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>>381895448
JESUS CHRIST

>>381891336
>>381891336
>>381891336
>>381891336

>>381886882
Both and also hybrids.

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>>381896248

>>381895834
Modern tanks tend to have composite armour (a combination of metal, ceramics, plastics and other materials). I looked at Wikipedia for Third Generation Main Battle tanks and the first ten tanks listed (I didn't bother looking further) all had composite armour such as Chobham armour.

>>381896246

Well, thats why I mention power armor or an armored exoskeleton. My Idea is that current exoskeles can be improved even more, and we just need to slap some angled plated into them to make it kinda bullet proof.

>>381896453

I see, but i still think an exoskeleton aided solder would be the shit.

>>381886882
>historical reconstructions
>realistic

vast majority of it is fantasy

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I like the combine designs in half life 2.

>>381895654
Could fit in 40k

>>381896582
smart fabrics are going to make "solid" exoskeletons obsolete before we even make them

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>>381896453

>>381896582
>>381896852
But when though.

>>381896852

>smart fabrics

The fuck is that?

>>381897032
he means flying drones are going to make military personnel obsolete.

>>381894562
>>381894834
in my opinion, i dont belive that gunpowder had direct impact on the use of plate armor, consider that the first usege of gunpowder on europe was on 1250 during the mongol invasion of hungary, at least 120 before single piece breastplates like >>381888630 were developed, by late 14th century primitive firearms and cannons were already being deployed on the battlefields, and on the 17th century plate armor hade reached its peak, that is almost 400 years of gunpowder being present on the battlefield

>>381897125
And what will make flying drones obsolete?

>>381897470
world peace

>>381897032
Some expensive bullshit.

>>381886882
Realistic fantasy, I guess?

>>381897516
Annd what will make world peace obsolete?

Don't tell me it war because then everything is just a cycle and I HATE cycles.

>>381897343
I feel like it might've been less about efficency against gunpowder and more about the rise of professional armies in the face of a declining feudalism and by extension the knight class. Probably a combination, really.

>>381897617
Nanomachines, son

>>381897343
>i dont belive that gunpowder had direct impact on the use of plate armor
i did, at its peak plate armour was going obsolete due to it being impratical to be used against concentrated fire.

>>381897617
Transcendence into a higher state of being.

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Both.
Fantasy style for larger than life heroes, realistic style for organized military.

In most games, once your hero gets his strength past 10 or 50 or the usual average, they basically stop being human. It makes sense that they can run full sprint in heavy armor and swing a great sword with one hand.

>>381895497
Yeah, the game was built to look good and it at least does that right.

>>381897617

Everything is a cycle m8, we're stuck in Dark Souls with the super powers

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>>381886882
>do you prefer overdesigned crap made by manchildren with the minds of 12 year olds or grounded, effective and just good looking designs

How much of a fucking moron do you have to be to even think there is a choice to be made?

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>>381897896

>>381898036
game?

>>381897470
Information. It's already the direction we're headed. Not so much the direct confrontation but who can steal information faster and more efficiently.

>>381899510

So what makes information obsolete? Lack of information? Doing nothing? I could do that.

Is DS the ultimate series for good looking armor and ultimate style?
If not what games do it better>

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>>381886882
Realistic.

>>381899697
I'd argue the search for information is an equivalent to an arms race. We either keep the status quo or Fallout turns into a real life simulator.

>>381886882
Realistic is cooler and more badass

>>381887463
yes but weird fantasy >>> historical

probably because when they try to make really unique settings they don't fall for a billion cliches in their visual design

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I have love for both, but I am more easily triggered by retarded fantasy armor than lame realistic armor
I find a simple chain mail more appealing than any garbage in WoW.
Mind you, I find the mix between realistic and fantasy the best of the lot

>>381899153
witcher 2

>>381898036
always hated Foltest's design, he's meant to be about the most attractive man in the world with golden curls and shit hence why he fucked his sister, she was the only one he considered beautiful enough to be worth his attention.

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>tfw I will always be american
>tfw no castles and knights in my country
unfair

>>381901117
Royalty are entitled cunts, what else is new. He's a bit older here too.

Realistic. And no woman warriors either.

Nothing takes me out of a game quicker than plastic armour and women knights.

>>381901248
there's an abbey from 1160 10 mins down the road from me lel!

>>381901354
Eh women warriors are fine but they don't always have to be the highest ranking generals and captains, there's never grunt ladies when they do this

>>381901310
When Ciri was 11 he was pretty young though, early twenties I think. He'd only be in his mid 30s, he should look more like Jude Law. Still CDPR did age a lot of people up and for some reason their main impression of Foltest was a master strategist.

>>381901535

There's no point making your armour realistic if you're going to ignore basic biology.

>>381901661

Well, in a war people from both genders are going to fight, especially if its a city raid.

Do you think woman would simply stand around and be butchered and raped?

>>381901550
>master strategist
Didn't really get that from TW2. But he knows when to rely on men who can get shit done, like Roche. Or Geralt.

>>381886882
a healthy mix of both

>>381901767
You would be surprised and disappointed

>>381901918

I expect woman to attack someone who is invading their house with house utensils and what house knifes and shit, motherly instincs is a thing.

>>381901248
>tfw living in florence for a month
>tfw its always fucking satan's asshole hot and everything
>tfw you have to pay to get in everywhere

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As other people have mentioned, Dark Souls has some pretty good armor designs

>>381902085
>I expect woman to attack someone who is invading their house
No. The norm was to kill herself and her children if possible to avoid slavery.

>>381899948
>>381900032
I find DS armors design extremaly overrated, like is realy good if you compare to shit like WoW but seriously only 1 in 10 sets manage to look good, and saying that it is realistic and well desingned is a bit too much.
Just look at the Elite Knight set, the guy wear an high quality 16th century armet but cant afford a pair of gauntlets, wear some floating greaves like if it was 13th century, and cant afford a breastplate, Elite knight my ass.
But i will give fromsoft credit for actualy doing research on historical armor and desing arround it, the problem is that they just throw the all the reseach on the trash.

>>381902307
>tfw was in dubrovnik for a week
>every second of being in the sun is draining
>get home to scandinavia
>miss it and freeze my ass off
it's not fair, I wanted to be mediterranean too

>>381902575
he's stuck in a land beyond time filled with demons and undead, cut him some slack

>>381902085
Some women were famous for fighting besieging soldiers off, in the 100 years war a lot of french women were sainted for fighting off english soldiers (and dying) for instance. Also Saxon women were given 'weaving knives' which were long knives to protect the household with, usually against Danes. It happened but it wasn't effective, and they usually didn't have any kind of armour.

Realistic only if the game is attempting to be realistic. Considering people never even hunted bears with a broadsword, I don't understand LARP autists getting their crusty pillows in a not because someone is using fantasy armor and weapons on a dragon.
My only rule is I like when the armor/weapon are aesthetic to the setting

I like fantasy designs more, as long as they aren't completely absurd

Although sometimes the absurdity is what makes them interesting

>>381901767

Those aren't warriors though.

If the city was being attacked, nobody would think "Well, better give our weapons and armour to women!".

>>381903139

Well, women had knives and other shit back at home.

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>>381902678
is just a bit of armor autism.
the funny thing is that the knight set actually has a breastplate

>>381903241

Eh, chances are they'd be better off offering themselves to the potential attackers than trying to kill them and getting themselves and their children killed in the process.

>>381903315
I used to go full elite knight set + knight cuirass, looked pretty dope

Although in DS2 and maybe DS3 I think their colors were different so I could no longer mix and match

>>381901918
Meet María Pita
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Pita
>Her husband gets killed during Brittish assault
>Enraged she steals the spear of the English banner and kills the soldier leading the attack In the Spanish article it says that it was a brother of Francis Drake but I'm not sure about the exact details of the story to say if it's true or false

>Encouraged the people to drive back the invaders

>>381903476

Because the attackers sure would be interested into raising their children right?

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>>381886882
Realistic or practical fantasy is best.

Probably my favorite armor is the Dawnguard armor

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>>381904003
Something about the Dawnguard armor bugs me, but I can't tell what.

>>381904757
It's so blocky it belongs in Dragon Age.

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>>381886882
I love my animu armor the best but I'm fine with pretty much anything that isn't bikini armor.

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Depends on the setting if it's a dark fantasy world realistic takes the cake where as shit like skyrim/wow etc doesn't bother me to see my character rocking huge armour and still running like a fruit.

>>381887857
Why is Byzantine armor so terribly underrepresented in video games?

>>381895085
that is a fuckin beautifully aesthetic armor

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>>381905594
forgot pic

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A R M E T S
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>>381895424

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i love armets

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>>381906225
Nice

>>381893056
I would love to see a videogame where a full set of armor is top tier equipment that costs a fuckload but essentially makes you a walking tank.

why are armor threads so /comfy/

>>381907445
they don't discuss videogames

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>>381905594

Byz as a whole is underrepresented in most vidya. It's usually West Rome that gets all the attention when people think of Roman Empire and thus, it gets all the aesthetic.

>>381900032
One arm is covered because when dueling you'd stand sideways.

>>381887423
Pointy helmets best helmets

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Even though frog-helmets were mostly used in jousting, I think they're pretty baller and love Dark Souls 2 for having a set that had it.

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>>381900032
>Extra protection on shield arm
This shit has always bothered me
If you have a shield then your arm is already protected. The arm that needs extra protection is the one that's going to be exposed to the enemy i.e. your weapon arm.
I'm not even a HEMA expert but I know that fencers wear a mitten on the hand they hold a foil with.

>>381886882
I like fantasy armors that take practicality into account

>>381909242
If you're wearing full plate harness, you don't really need a shield. If you were in full plate harness, you usually just had some kind of polearm.

>>381902575
>>381903315
I always imagined that the EK set had a breastplate like the regular knight set under the tabbard
also I genuinely prefer the regular knight set over the EK set

>>381909242
You're going to be keeping your shield arm between you and your enemy for most of the time, so it's going to be exposed to the most potential danger. Your sword arm is only going to be vulnerable while you're attacking.

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>>381910642
ds1 probably did, because it was super bulky.
In ds2 there is probably chainmail at the most, because it shows the player's body form more

>>381911608
That's probably because it wasn't from Astora.
In ds2 it was made from local drangleic materials and was designed to essentially pay homage

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>>381911187
That's why you have a shield in the first place. Unless your enemy can get around it.
My pic probably isn't the best example though. And like >>381910015 said, full plate armor kind of made a shield redundant.

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But wasn't plate armour mostly useless? A longbow hit would kill one and go right through a knight. A longsword shot to the rib full swing. A spear.

I always thought plate armour and chain mail, or any variant was just there to give the soldiers confidence to engage and only mild protection.

>>381912972
rule of cool

>>381912972
No, people used to go into battle in the nude but the pope made them wear armor for modesty.

>>381912972
"A longsword shot to the rib full swing" You are not going to cut through plate with a long sword. you would have to look for a gap or something and stab. as for a bow it depends on the draw power. crossbows will fuck plate up tho

>>381901248
>live in Florida
>can visit former conquistador forts

Close enough to knights and castles for me

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>>381901767
>>381902085
>>381903241
>>381903742
most women historically did not fight period

there are some famous examples like Joan of arc but crucially they where killed.It was not the norm and was not a position you wanted your daughter to be in.

To illustrate the the siege of Constantinople in 1453 had less than 7000 men defending the walls women did not rise up to defend the city

The main motivator is usually their children an invader would be unlikely to indiscriminately kill unless you gave them reason such as oh lets say attacked them with kitchen knives.

its usual to appease an invader when in a position of weakness such as Rome paying off the Celts when their army was defeated in 390 BC.Fighting to the last and getting your women killed would spell doom for any people.

>>381913681
I know its fiction but a particularly large sword, be it longsword or a zweihander would clearly cut through a full plate if given enough force no? OR at least crack a rib or two, long enough to keep bashing them to death.

>>381892035
True Romans don't wear scale armour.

Simple plate without any messy stuff like swathes of chainmail. Something like >>381887957

>>381912972
Are bulletproof vests just for show? Do people wear helmets on motorcycles just because they like how they look? Are kevlar workshop gloves just for aesthetics?
You seriously cannot be this fucking stupid.

>>381907280
Mount and Blade, kinda, depending on mods and how you play.

>>381913879
maybe some roid rage fucker could cut it but a normal person with a longsword, i doubt. not sure about a zwei. the force could fuck you up a bit or knock you down. people in heavy armor normally would have to be taken down first, grappled with for a bit and stabbed with a dagger or something between the plates

>>381914428
Bulletproof vests aren't purely for show and can stop individual bullets. But take an automatic, shotgun or particularly strong piece of arms and it will tear through the armour. Motorcycle helmet can work but its not fully preventive if your body goes flying or crack your neck.

My logic isn't "Its completely, absolutely useless" but that they don' provide full on protection. I.e bulletproofs do not make you bulletproof, only bullet resistent. You are not entirely immune to small arms or military grade weaponry, you can take small pistol level shots and it still badly hurts you or cracks a rib.

It was poorly written but armour is useless in the sense "this will provide me with a slightly increased chance of survival of the norm" vs "I am completely immune to sword swings, spears and conventional weaponry".

>>381886882
I just like it when women have face-covering helmets on them.

>>381913879
No, blades cannot cut through full plate harness. Try cutting through a pot from your kitchen with a knife. You can bash it out of shape, but you cannot cut through it. It's solid fucking metal.

>>381913879
Perform a similar test yourself by taking your sharpest and heaviest kitchen knife and try slashing through the metal backing of your fridge.

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>>381895424
>>381895624
>>381906328
Had to do it

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Best of both worlds

>>381887973
true

>>381914661
The only thing that really reliably works against full plate is blunt weaponry to bash plates out of shape followed by piercing weaponry slipping between the bashed plates. However, blunt weapons capabe of providing that much directed force tended to be expensive and thus relatively rare. So yes, full plate harness was very effective.

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>>381914807
Good stuff

>>381914661
honestly the point is still to not hurt.
If the armor protects you from anything at all then it served its purpose.

>>381913879
Depends on the plate. Towards the end of the medieval age they were pretty much immune to anything a foot soldier could dish out.

Cavalry could fuck up dismounted Knights pretty easy. And high power crossbows quickly started to make plated nobles worried.

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fantasy armors, realistic weapons

>>381913879
anon real life isn't berserk.

>>381891864
Something heavy hits you in the head, and the sword/mace/whatever slides down, losing some of its energy on impact.

>>381893114
pilum is fucking top notch ancient technology

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Can I like a mix? Something that looks practical but has some flair to it. Like the Elite Knight set in DaS or majority of the armour sets in Nioh.

I hate overdesigned trash like Warhammer though.

>>381908564
dark souls 3 also has frog helmets

>>381895654
Should have been Caesar's legion desu.

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still the best. every armor thread until forever

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>>381913820
I do not disagree, but there were examples of women fighting en masse. Russia/USSR is one of the examples. Women batallions were used both in WW1 and WW2 with varying degrees of success. Most women snipers in WW2 survived the war, actually.

>>381915662
Human warhammer stuff has a solid base on reality so I like it.

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>>381901354
>>381901661

>>381893056
Exanima. Look up some gameplay. Full plate makes you near invincible. Lo-Fantasy setting.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/362490/Exanima/

>>381916207
Is that fucking game ever going to be finished?

>>381887346
>historically accurate
>white
pick one

>>381906225
FFXIV has a set that looks just like this for tank classes, and now it's finally dyeable in the expansion. Can't wait to mix and match with it.

>>381916041
don't get me wrong, some of the designs are alright, but when you start going crazy with giant paldrons and skulls and stuff, then you lose me.

>>381893314
>9mm
Doesn't matter if I have 60 rounds or 1000, still won't kill anybody dead except peasants wearing gambeson

>>381916278
WE

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>>381886882
Fantasy. By far.

>>381888364
war masks are always so spooky. I like em

Historic tbqh, but fantasy is fine aslong as the design seems somewhat practical/belivable and isnt wow-paladin-powerranger-tier.

>>381888520
lol what an edgelord

>>381887084
>i want to look retarded, not like a badass

>>381916736
anon he had it right the first time

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Ceremonial armour usually combines the best of both worlds.

>>381916859
holy shit that's terrifying

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>>381916859
I love these helmets and I'm so glad that a rendition exist in Bloodborne.
>>381916990
Indeed.

Fantasy, but only if it's not ridiculous and full of pointless extra details. A good example of what I don't want is endgame armor for literally EVERY MMO; spikes, frills, sudden buzz saws coming out of your flaming shoulders, and so on. A good example of fantasy armor is the Nord armor from Skyrim's Dragonborn DLC; it's a good mix of fur and metal while not looking like some kid vomited and traced the shape to design a suit of armor.

>>381913820
>women did not rise up to defend the city
How do you know that some women did not do some fighting? And there is Order of the Hatchet which was made after women defended the city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Hatchet Maybe before talking about history you should learn about history first.

>>381916541
literally too edgy

>>381915394
and more importantly, it redirects the impact away from your head, preventing your spine from getting crushed

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>>381916859
>>381917072

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>>381888571
Haha, I work with them now. The guy on the right is pretty much the boss, and you have no idea how insanely accurate he is about his outfits. I've been friends with him for about a year now and he asked me if I wanted to join in.

They do reenactments all over Ireland. Here's me from the other weekend as a 1450s soldier. I'll be doing the Battle of Clontarf in a few weeks as a Hiberno-Norseman/Irish Viking. Can't wait!

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>>381886882
What are some games where I can wear anglo meme armor?

>>381916541
How to stab yourself in the eyes: The armor

>>381917803
Brytenwalda

>>381912972
foolish knave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej3qjUzUzQg

>>381917793

lol nerd

That's pretty cool anon, I hope you have a lot of fun.

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Make sure you wear helmets!

>>381886882
Realistic because when done correctly it can be fabulous

>>381915978
The women batallions of WW1 were used by the provincial government of Russia to shame the men into fighting harder. They were practically useless on the battlefield as anything but a propaganda tool.

No idea how efficent the batallions of WW2 were though. Didn't they put women in tanks and planes too?

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hey /v/, gimme hug

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You can do both good, but there are too many cases where "realistic" seems to translate into "Extremely boring, under-detailed, and without actual thought into the design", and "Fantasy" translates to "Absolute full retard mess of overly thick plates and skulls and glowing runes etched into metal". If there is coherency in the design, it can be good. If the design is identifiable and visually pleasing, it can be good. If the design is at least somewhat practical when glanced at, it can be good.

>>381905594
Venetian conspiracy

>>381915130
I think the efficency of crossbows is grossly overrated. They're good mainly because a peasant soldier can pick one up and learn how to use it with ease whilst longbows required A LOT of practice to use them properly, let alone draw them properly. There are plenty videos of high-powered crossbows shooting at plate armour made the old way and the bolts just make a dent at best.

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Anyone else really like edgy armor designs?

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>>381895834
Most modern body armor is made of ceramics because its lighter than steel plates. However, ceramics break, and steel doesn't , which is why there's no reason to use it on tanks.

>>381893314
>uzi
Of all the guns you could have picked, you picked the shitty 80s classic, good work anon.

>>381895475
A soldier in power armor is a lot smaller and more maneuverable than a tank, so the hope is that you wouldn't have to take a direct hit from an AT rocket. >>381897470
Jamming

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Friendly reminder that the ancient Mycenaeans had a type of body armor that made you look like an aluminum can.

>>381895684
>Fire Emblem got rid of THICC generals in favor of garbage ayy lmao generals
I hate video games

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>>381918895
>armored dress
10/10

>>381912972
A full set of plate armour practically made you fucking immune to the peasant levy and their shitty weapons unless they wrestled you to the ground and stabbed you in your soft bits. The usefulness of plate and mail armour has been incredibly understated by all forms of media since forever. Sword won't pierce a plate armour piece, nor will an arrow from a longbow or a bolt from a crossbow. Shit was OP, man.

>>381919343
This reminds me of the one guy from Dark Souls whose whole gimmick was that he was covered in spikes and liked to roll around to hurt you.

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>>381919440
Sometimes

>>381886882
a good balance. The stuff on the left is cool, often "fantasy" goes overboard though. especially for japanese games

>>381918895
>>381919596
I really like this.

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Where does Monster Hunter fall?

>>381919440
one on the right isn't too edgy, sure there are a few spikes, but aside from that it looks pretty cool

>>381919658
This.
If plate armor was as useless as films made them out to be, then they wouldn't have been in use for as long as they were in history.
Some European cavalry regiments were still using plate armor as late as the 1700s, and even into the Napoleonic era, though mostly for ceremonial and bling purposes.

>>381919808
Semi-practical fantastical armor. That Lagia plate doesn't look TOO offensive, and since they aren't ever fighting other humans, they need the extra armor layering. Not to mention that aside from the waist...plates(?), it seems like it wouldn't even be all that heavy.

>>381919912
>Some European cavalry regiments were still using plate armor as late as the 1700s,
The napoleonic cuirassiers were used into the opening battles of World War 1, my man. They even dressed the way they did a hundred years earlier, breastplate and all.

They realise how silly it was almost immediately though. The maxim doesn't give a damn if you're a cool guy on a horse or not.

>>381919440
>Tiny skirt on the left
>Not a badass flowing dress

Missed opportunity.

>>381919808
armors like low rank Zinogre, gen 1 Khezu, classic Hunter's armor, gen 4 Garuga, nearly every Rathian design, classic Los are god tier fantasy because they are thematic with the world but the thousand of armors that have wings are horrific and normally end up being the shit you clownsuit.
The "realistic armor" argument is thrown out the window when the games aren't grounded in reality period. Go wear plate and fight a lion or a tiger with a sword and see what happens

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>>381920108
They're just really long faulds, aren't they? It's probably meant to give it a look like you're wearing a big armored coat of lagi fins.

>>381912972
>>381913879
>blade cutting metal
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlIUrd7d1Q

also no, a Zweihander isn't heavy as the Dark Souls variant, besides the fact that because physics it won't do any damage.
Try an halberd or a warhammer, it will be more effective because the torque

>>381920134
I still think WW1 plate armor is fascinating.
It shows how inept the military leadership was at the time, that they even resorted to making clunky and heavy armor for infantry because they were so desperate to figure out how to counter the artillery barrages, which in turn lead to the clusterfuck that is trench warfare.
It was the whole 'its so crazy, it just might work' line of thinking.

>>381891010
DELET THIS
THUS SKIMPY ARMOR OPRESSES ME

>>381916541
>>381917987
>Look around
>Stab yourself
I really hate this design.

>>381914661
>shotgun
>penetrating body armor
Better be using slugs, anon.

>>381920594
It really is. The conflict was very much the final great clash between warfare as it had been fought and the new industrialised scale of it.

>>381920402
To be honest, MH armor has no reason to waste its time on being overly realistic and practical. What is a body being covered by steel plate armor do when a 20-foot reptile dives into lava and pops out just to shoot you with a laser, or when a unicorn decides to pounce forward and shower you with lightning? After a certain point, it just has to be assumed that either the armor is strong enough to handle it, and thus all of the extra armor plating (which is always rather fair unless it's Duramboros or Uragaan armor) is necessary, or it's all aesthetic, in which case it can be as pretty and ceremonial as desired.

>>381920591
Well there is a thing called half-swording whenever you had to face another full plated knight.
Though I guess only knights and really veterans footsoldiers would know how to correctly do this

>>381892749
>even the most basic of handguns makes armor useless.
Depends on the gun, depends on the plate.
Following the popularization of firearms plate started becoming better and thicker.
To counter that, arquebuses became longer, better (which soon ended in muskets by the end of the 16th century), and powder was better manufactured and stored.
While plate remained in use during the 17th, its presence on the battlefield slowly dwindled.
And from there we all knows how this story ends