>ask for six million dollars in crowdfunding >somehow manage

The project is bloated as fuck. There's a such thing as too much funding.

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>post yfw you didn't back any kickstarter project

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>He listens to Derek Smart

so much avocado toast

>its been 5 years of "silly console peasants, just wait until star citizen comes out!"

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>mfw BRUH IT'S GONNA BE THE BIGGEST GAME EVER LIKE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

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>>381855890
>tfw when watching Strafe backer reactions
[spoilers] Anyone have sauce on pic related btw [/spoilers]

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Why would you be dumb enough to fun obvious scams like this? Especially after no man's sky? People are fucking idiots.

>>381856283
A fool and his money, anon

>>381855753
>Oh fuck, no more income because we jewed people for the Alpha but we're still developing
>Halp

>>381856283
Idk ask pat contry.

>believing Derek Smart

Also they took a loan to manage their money with respect to tax breaks and currency conversion, learn to startup moron

I don't understand how it got 150 million. At the time it happened it wasn't on my radar at all.

That crap adventure game from Tim Schafer seemed to have much more attention from what I saw. and it only raised 3 million.

this start citizen shit raised 50 times more? i must have somehow ignored it completely or no one talked about it

>>381855890
I backed F13 and that's gone pretty meh. Didn't back more than the asking price though, so I pretty much just pre-ordered it before it was up for pre-order.

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I don't get this crowdfunding shit at all.
>creator of Shenmue makes a presentation at E3
>standing on the most exclusive stage in the industry, surrounded by the wealthiest publishers in the industry
>asks for money from fans
>gets a gorillion dollars from fans before the end of the night, for a game that doesn't exist
>mfw

>>381855906
>>381856659
Found the Scam Citizens.

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Imagine if they had just done what they said they were going to do, released it and then added things over time. They'd be raking in cash and laughing.

Instead they're fucked. As is everyone who contributed money to this project.

>>381856182
Good taste Mr. President.

All my 4x games turned out o k, you guy must just like shit genres and developers.

What else would they put up as collateral?

>>381856973
There appears to be a huge crowd of space autists in existence. It's the only reason why a game like Eve Online could exist or why No Man's Sky got so much fucking hype over obvious nothing.

why do people fund things that don't even have demos to let you try them.

>>381856973
Because the Tim Schafur trash was hyped up by his lot of sjw libshit nu-male cuck video game bloggers aka "journalists" who never played anything in their lives outside of Halo but like to tout themselves as experts.
Meanwhile actual gamers didn't need to be constantly shilled and reminded by Fagtaku and Polygender that a new space sim is being made by the guy who pioneered space sims.

>star citizen thread
>after a few dozen posts astroturfers descend on the thread en masse, engaging in mental gymnastics and whataboutery
>this happens every time

really gets my noggin a-joggin

>>381858162
>People still think Star Citizen is a scam.

Really appetites my brain vibrations.

>>381858401
>Scam Citizen can't meme and says "appetites my brain vibrations," possibly the worst and most autistic iteration of it ever seen by mankind
Really makes one think.

>>381858053
The potential of the idea is what makes people throw their money at it. "You can do anything!" is actually true just for a moment because anything is possible with an incomplete game, the development has the possibility of going anywhere.

That's why people buy into promises, the early versions of minecraft, Early Access games on steam, Kickstarter, No Man's Sky. An open-ended idea is what sells. A fully explained/fleshed-out idea does not.

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>>381859136
Of course you can add this guy to that list.

Everyone loves the "potential".

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>>381855753
Wait what, how did this fucking game get funded $150 million dollars?!

>>381855753
this is an advance on a government bond
it's literally the safest investment that possibly exists
why does /v/ not know anything about finances? is it because video games are for children?

What is it about this game that makes people go crazy?

Who cares if a bunch of weirdos throw their money at some space game that may or may not exist at some point.

Also, the fuck is wrong with Derek Smart?
Dude is just fucking out of his mind, his vendetta doesn't even make sense.

No I'm actually asking here, I know nothing about this game other then the price tag and space ships, but every time I go into a thread about it, everyone is losing their mind.

>>381859624
I think some people just really hate the space sim/4x genre.

>>381859624
the new generation of reactionary conservative teenagers hate all things that are optimistic and posted about on reddit. the thought of people liking something just makes them so mad they have to shit on everything about it because they think caring about things is overrated because they're degenerate trash

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>>381855890
Feels good man

>>381859723
To be fair, Derek Smart is an asshole.

>>381855753
it's not

it's growing, capitalism ho!

>>381859624

>i'm not a fan of star citizen, but don't you just hate....

>>381859792
how many posts in this thread are bad trolling attempts
let's not pretend Derek Smart is the problem

>>381859586
It's because the board is >99% shitposting. Everything is just an attempt to get under people's skin.

>>381859927
and why's that

Apparently they did this as a way to actually save money, and they only put Squadron 42 up for collateral, not Star Citizen.

https://www.pcinvasion.com/second-star-citizen-loan-explained/amp

Either way, I hope they underprovide and the denial army that supports them get BTFO. literally every for of opposition this game gets receives thousands of angry redditors and backers. There's something fishy going on at CIG.

>>381859829
I don't hate, I am confused.

Every time I have come into one of the threads trying to figure out what the fuck this game is, it's like lord of the fucking flies.

>>381860068
> literally every for of opposition this game gets receives thousands of angry redditors and backers.

what is /v/'s problem with not realizing that their views are one-sided
you know what you get whenever you post something about star citizen? a bunch of people who love it and a bunch of people who hate it because you all have stupid opinions
there's nothing fishy
humans are just fucking stupid, like you

>>381859624

Here's what's going on, lemme break it down:

People on /v/ hate preorder baiting and kickstarter because it's contributing to the growing problem of massive companies spending 10x as much on marketing as they do on development and trying to bait people into buying the game before anyone's played it and before they can see gameplay footage/get an idea of whether it's good or in line with their desires. This is seen as a problem because it's becoming profitable to release barebones games that are barely alpha quality to the public to just barely avoid being charged with fraud after asking 60 bucks for it by saying on kickstarter "spend this much and you'll get early access when it's ready ;)"

Now the people who come from off site to defend this game to the hilt are here because they've been fleeced but don't want to admit it. Many of them have contributed up to or more than 500 dollars over the last few years. Many of the ship packs on sale cost literally 10,000 real world dollars, why do they cost that much? Because there are people who actually buy them. These people have thrown copious amounts of money at a pipe dream and every time you tell them they're not going to get their perfect space simulation, and even if they do, everyone's spent so much time playing the pre-release content that it's going to be DOA anyway they get extremely angry.

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>>381855890

>giving money to kikestarter projects'

how can people be so stupid? its just as bad as giving money to camwhores.

>>381859723
What a completely narrow minded and asinine point of view.

>>381859960
Shit got really 2011, just go with it anon... go with the flow.

>>381860298
>barely alpha quality
do you know what an alpha is? of course you don't this is /v/
'barely alpha' is a game that doesn't crash when the two untextured placeholder models move around

why does nobody here know how video games are made

>>381860306

I want to cum on her face haha

>>381857835
This is an executive order. Gimme this semon demon's name

>>381860326
>narrow minded and asinine
you must be intelligent
>>381860407
i want to go back to that time
even 2011 wasn't this bad
we were supposed to invent our own morality
but we just became the ironic shitposting

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Who the fuck is Derek Smart and why do Star Citizen cultists accuse everyone of being him?

>>381860282
>there's nothing fishy
I find it hard to believe this game isn't going to be another No Man's Sky where people will be flying around in an empty space with their ships they payed anywhere from $100 to $2500 for. It's a fucking money pit.

The Devs said they'd complete the game on time once they reached $20M, they're at $150+ and they still have almost nothing to show for it. You're just a fucking short sighted, blind fan who doesn't know how to be financially responsible.

>>381860431

Do you know what an exaggeration is? Of course you don't because you're a fucking retard who spends 10,000 dollars on some virtual spaceship to impress people you've never met.

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THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM
Budget: $90 million USD
Development team: 80
Development time: 3 years

STAR CITIZEN
Budget: $150 million USD + unknown venture capital investors + bank loans
Development team: 268 + outsourcing for animations, voice acting
Development time: 5 years
State: 3+ years remaining until release

>>381860535
Coming from the guy who stated this is a generational problem and a symptom of moral decay. You think everyone in the world is wrong except for you. Enjoy your Kikestarter project that will never come out

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Hey Star Citizen fans, can you do me a favor?

Take a look at these images of procedurally generated planets and tell me which one was made by:

1) the 268 employee company with $150 million US dollars of funding, over the course of four years

2) the 58 year old Russian astronomer, over the course of six months, in his free time away from his job

>>381860712
That's not what I took away from his statement, I see an observational opinion that can be argued. But you don't want to do that, you just want to bitch and moan like a faggot.

>>381860593
>I find it hard to believe this game isn't going to be another No Man's Sky
i completely agree
>You're just a fucking short sighted, blind fan
i don't give a shit about a boring ass space sim i already have rouge squadron

>>381860752
One of them literally says Star Citizen 2016 Gamescom Presentation

>>381860819
Why are you trying so hard to defend a fucking shitty looking kick started project that is way in over it's head? How fucking invested are you? Serious question.

>>381860752
what fps does the astonomer's game run at
>>381860949
you're trying too hard

>>381860431
>taking 100% of the words seriously
Maybe videogames are made for children. Also, to play devil's advocate, every fucking publisher out there lets people play "alphas" and "betas," when theyre ready to ship the game in less than a month

>>381860752
The one that doesn't use photoshop imaginings and concept art as a reference.

For real though, the one that doesn't use all the dumbass colors.

>>381860983
>no you
Lol, Star Citizen backers, everyone.

>>381860983
>what fps does the astonomer's game run at

It's 'Space Engine', you can download it yourself to check

http://spaceengine.org/

>>381861009
>every fucking publisher out there lets people play "alphas" and "betas,"
how is that devil's advocate?
you used the word wrong
i pointed out how you used the word wrong
you said "these people also use the word wrong"
so? you still used the word wrong

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>>381855890

>>381861016
Space Engine is made by a published astronomer, everything in it is accurate. Those are moons in the image. Colors exist in space, wherever there are atmospheres, water, or life.

>>381861039
oh, Space Engine is neat
someone should take that picture and turn it into star citizen vs. dwarf fortress

>>381860949
I just wanted to shit on an anon, and you were there in all your glory. I'm not defending anything, obviously.

>>381860983
>you're trying too hard
So do you have answer for him or not? Now you have me curious. How much did you spend on SC?

>>381861125
>I was merely pretending to be retarded!
Hmm...

>>381861123
Why would they do that? The image is comparing the ingame graphics and nothing else.

>>381861137
>How much did you spend on SC?
nothing, but it's pretty clear there are two people going through and just replying to every single post with bad trolling
like if you're going to troll you need to wait for the diehards to show up first
when you start accusing all the casual shitposters of being shills/fans you give yourselves away

>>381861212

>>381861175
>>381861137
actually it's just one poster, you can even tell when his post timer resets

>>381860282
>reddit spacing
Found the backer. What ship did you buy, anon?

>>381861175
Hmm? what? now what are you talking about, now you just want to argue with someone instead of address the obvious reply to the original topic in your post. Merely pretending? I'm just typing whatever the fuck comes out. I know you're this fucking stupid, but I'm going to tell you anyway. You aren't talking to one person.

>>381855753
So what exactly was the goal of star citizen? Were they trying to make an MMO?
What was the gameplay and objectives of the player going to be?

It always felt like it was just an overhyped game that focuses way too much on graphics.

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can you guys imagine making 150 million dollars by selling pictures of digital space ships?

>>381861294
again, trying too hard
like i'm just trying to help you improve man
why do something bad?

>>381861212
>nothing
Bullshit
>they're trolls
Trolls don't get to you unless they attack something you like or support, so what is your excuse? And they're trolls for calling out how blatantly stupid this whole thing is?
>wait untill the diehard fans show up
Seems to me like you're already here.

>>381861461
you're on the right path, but you really need to pick your targets better
do you want to talk about video games, anon? what video games do you like?

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>>381861279
Come again?

>>381861051
Eh, replace "devil's advocate with whatever' correct. Its 2am, why should I care? My main point is that the word has lost its meaning in this industry thanks to marketers. There's not much reason to sperg out over
>muh alpha
When theres more valid things to make a response about. Dont be a fag

>>381861581
You're so delusional at this point it's almost scary. I'm not even sure what you're arguing for. Do you like Star Citizen or not?

>>381861631
that post is 5min old
you took that screenshot when it was 2min old
it took you 3 min to post a screenshot?
wow, that seems like a lot of time, dude

>>381861279
Multiple people saying shit Sherlock.

>>381861736
Yep. You finished being stupid yet or do you wanna go for another round?

>>381861849
so why'd you need to edit the photo?

>>381861719
Likely just calling out your moot observations.

I wonder if backers realize that even the game PROMISED isn't the game they think they're getting

Star Citizen will have a 32 players per server cap on 'release'

>received 150 million dollars
>spend it all on blow and fast cars

Chris Roberts would go down as being a bigger con artist than Todd and Molyneux. Maybe someone should've told him to calm his fucking feature creep down and just make the damn Wing Commander: Privateer game which he was being crowdfunded to do. Instead he was trying to weld together cutting-edge grafix and No Man's Sky and Elite: Dangerous and a generic spees murine FPS game where you would have to actually lead spees murines into fully-to-scale space ships to capture them and haul them to port to hock them for millions of space creds...jesus christ. It's like he was trying to make half a dozen games and pack them into a petabyte-sized game.

>>381861947
>>381861867
yo but why are you dodging the question bro

>>381856283
>Especially after no man's sky?
this came first silly.

>>381860298
I like kickstarter as an idea, a way for game designers with good idea but no cash to get the money together to make a game from the people who would buy it.

I hate it in practice because there's no incentive to take the time to release a good, functional game. Why would they? They've already sold thousands on up of copies and made millions of dollars for a game that doesn't even exist yet. They could half-ass it, release a buggy barely finished product and not give two shits because they already made their money.

That said, the only games I've backed on Kickstart are Shovel Knight, Undertale, and Hollow Knight. Almost supported Yooka-Laylee, but dodged a fucking bullet on that one.

>>381855753
how the fuck has no one filed a suit to just dismantle the whole fucking thing or at least give refunds? it's the biggest waste of money ever and nobody is going to get their digital fucking spaceships for tens of thousands of dollars. they were never going to. star citizen is a fucking scam

>>381862074
>I hate it in practice because there's no incentive to take the time to release a good, functional game.
except for wanting to continue in the industry
i mean there are always idiots but let's not pretend that there's no public outcry against shitty kickstarters outside of /v/

>>381862109
That's the beauty of Kickstarter. Companies go bankrupt all the time. There's nothing illegal about that. As long as Roberts can funnel their money out of the company in a seemingly legitimate fashion, they are untouchable.

>>381856973
>I don't understand how it got 150 million. At the time it happened it wasn't on my radar at all.

This. The only reason I donated to it was because I didn't think they'd get close to their actual goal and would actually need my money. Had I known they were going to make tons of money and lose focus I could have saved my $30 bucks and bought some beers.

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>>381855890
>post yfw you've never backed a kickstarter project
>post yfw you've never bought an early access game

>>381857959
Their buttholes.

>>381862007
The whole feature creep thing is what really gets me. It's amazing that Star Citizen fans are so delusional that they think that Roberts can really hit all of their stretch goals as long as they throw enough money at him.
If they actually intended to make a proper game they would have said "Alright folks. No more stretch goals after [whatever] million. If you wish to keep donating, we appreciate it, but we can't promise anything else."
Instead they just hoover up all the cash and blow smoke up everyone's ass.

>>381862148
>except for wanting to continue in the industry
It might just be me, but if I asked for $6mill to make a game and ended up with literally 25 times that amount, I'd probably just spend the bare minimum on making the game. Maybe 10 millions just to make it nice(and for nice, even numbers to satisfy my autism) and better than what was expected.

After that, just pay whatever I owe people, then just disappear off the face of the earth. Barring some massive fuck ups, I have $140 million or so. I would never have to work a day in my life ever again. I could just live off the interest and live more than comfortably. If you have that much money, working for a living is a sucker's play.

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>>381862385
Feels fucking good. Any time I see "early access" on a game I instantly lose all interest. I wouldn't touch crowdfunding with a ten foot pole either.

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>>381860881
LMAO

>>381862427
What's more hilarious is how many red flags there were. Everything they showed reeked of poor design process.

>>381861451
But how much money have you backed the game for?

>>381862385
>says he never fell for an early access scam
>posts a nu-Samurai Jack screencap

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>>381855890
The only kickstarter I backed was Squad. I don't regret it, already have a few hundred hours in the game for the ~30 dollars, but the development has been really slow.

>>381862474
yes, but some people actually do this for a living

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>>381861016
You're a fucking retarded faggot.

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>>381855890
I was SO SO SO FUCKING CLOSE at least 5 times I think.

Tim Schafer's hipster lumberjack
Armikrog
Star Citizen
Pillars of Eternity
Wasteland 2
La-Mulana 2
Planescape
Pathologic

Each time my inner instinct told me not to. Thank you my life-long companions common sense and reason, you saved me a lot of money and disappointment.
There is still a chance that La-Mulana 2 and Pathologic remake turn out to be good. If that's the case I will buy them, but only when they are finished and released will they get my money.

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I've waited so long to see this happen

>>381855753
It's actually Squadron 42 as collateral, not Star Citizen itself

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>/v/ is being retarded again about things they don't know shit about.
You guys are fucking pathetic

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hey

this might be of interest to those who actually come on /v/ to discuss videogames


Yesterday at 21:39
We have noticed the speculations created by a posting on the website of UK’s Company House with respect to Coutt’s security for our UK Tax Rebate advance, and we would like to provide you with the following insight to help prevent some of the misinformation we have seen.

Our UK companies are entitled to a Government Game tax credit rebate which we earn every month on the Squadron 42 development. These rebates are payable by the UK Government in the fall of the next following year when we file our tax returns. Foundry 42 and its parent company Cloud Imperium Games UK Ltd. have elected to partner with Coutts, a highly regarded, very selective, and specialized UK banking institution, to obtain a regular advance against this rebate, which will allow us to avoid converting unnecessarily other currencies into GBP. We obviously incur a significant part of our expenditures in GBP while our collections are mostly in USD and EUR. Given today's low interest rates versus the ongoing and uncertain currency fluctuations, this is simply a smart money management move, which we implemented upon recommendation of our financial advisors.

The collateral granted in connection with this discounting loan is absolutely standard and pertains to our UK operation only, which develops Squadron 42. As a careful review of the security will show and contrary to some irresponsible and misleading reports, the collateral specifically excludes “Star Citizen.” [...]

This should clarify the matter. Thank you.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/re-uk-tax-rebate-advance-for-foundry-42/277779

>>381862906
But there was lots of threads in /v/ that you could acted like a gay faggot in.

>>381863107
To star citizen ya dingus

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>>381863034
i guess 1 hour and half of shitposting is the /v/ thread cooking time.

>>381858071
Could you maybe speak in a language that doesn't entirely consist of buzzwords

>>381862657
yes, that is what he did

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>>381863179

>>381859723
>reactionary conservative teenagers
What the fuck does being a conservative have anything to do with what's being discussed here? Are you so retarded that you just started throwing around random buzzwords? Pathetic.

>>381863034
>>381863056
These threads are just for shitposters. You can tell they don't care about reality if they quote fucking Derek Smart.

>>381863295
>>381863034
>>381863056

it's almost as if /v/ didn't want a videogame to come out.

watch this thread get binned in less than an hour now, a new one will be made with the same baseless shitposting and then when some people catch on it'll happen again, and again, whole day long.

>>381863397
Nu-Samurai Jack IS early access garbage

>>381863381
The only language that dumbass knows is faggot.

>>381863556
>early access TV show
hmm...

>>381863492
we should hang out and probably have sex we're the last ones of a dying breed.

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>>381863381
"Buzzword" as a word has become a meme itself, spouted by intellectually dim-witted memesters such as yourself, who lack the mental capacity to process anything that makes them use more than 4 brain cells.
My post perfectly summarized Tim Schafer and his clientele and BFF working/leeching off the industry.

>>381862856
Now hold up there senpai, PoE and wasteland 2 were good, and so far I've heard nothing bad about the pathologic reboot.

>I don't know how loans work: The Thread

Every. Single. Loan. In. History. Requires. Collateral. The. Only. Thing. They. Have. Is. Assets.

And even if they do magically go bankrupt, somebody else buys the shit and does something with it. The game is still there. These threads just sound like Mr Smart being buttravaged.

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Meanwhile in the real world

>>381863736
PoE is, or was fun, but I feel like they've taken a bad turn with the abilities activating on abilities thing they're doing now.

And Wasteland 2 felt very repetitive, and the AI consist of nothing but enemies rushing you, completely ignoring and failing to use cover.

>>381855890
I have but the only ones i've backed have turned out to be good

I backed Ghost Song: A Journey of Hope by Matt White and that game exists less then star citizen

> Dude you aren't a game developer delays happen all the time

I feel pretty bad for people who still have full faith in Star Citizen.

Chris Roberts really appears to be horrible at project management. Yeah, delays happen in software development but missing every single one of your milestones and failing to overcome foundational technical hurdles 5 years into a project is not a good sign.

The original Star Marine shitshow getting blamed on the contractor was one of the first warning signs.

>>381862856

But PoE and Wasteland 2 are both really enjoyable games.

>>381858162
>noggin a-joggin
Get back to work, Jim. I want to see the new TGWTG video.

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Sounds like pay to win garbage that won't even release. Hahaha why are gamers actually so fucking retarded. I'm happy the industry is like this. There's a sucker born everyday. You idiots who pre order and kick start crap deserve what you get.

>>381863623
>here's a shitty, rushed, unfinished product to gague further interest
>you fell for it hook line and sinker and gave them TV ratings and ad money

>no losing ships permanently

gonna be shite

>>381858071
jesus christ anon that is a truly impressive post you've made

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>>381862385
Feels so fucking good man

>>381859723
We're gonna need more green arrows to cover all these implications

>>381864228
I know right, it ruins EvE so much how you just buy insurance and then when your ship blows up you have most of the money needed to buy an exact duplicate

>>381864018
I didn't say they were bad games, I'm just glad I didn't fork out the amount of money for them like I intended to.
They are nowhere near on the same level as the classics like Baldur's Gate or Fallout for example.
Kickstarter basically ruined all of my hope to ever see "games like they used to make them back in the days".
They all rode that nostalgia train hard and all of them disappointed me in one way or another so far.

>>381863034

>Floating charge covers all the property or undertaking of the company.
>ALL the property or undertaking

>>381859723
>only conservatives think this is a scam

lmao

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>>381865446
>lmao

WHAT IS THIS RACIST CONSERVATIVE ANTI-STAR-CITIZEN INCANTATION YOU'RE USING ON ME, BLUMPFKIN?

>>381864709

Are... Are you being serious or not? The money from ships isn't the issue, it's the literally everything else on it.

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>>381855890
>You've only ever backed French Cartoon Blu Rays

>people fell for the Star Citizen meme
Lol

How did you fags not see this? $150,000,000 and still nothing apart from a couple of buggy no content demos.

>>381863463
Amerifat does not know that 'conservative' has other meanings beyond their shitty political system

>>381865507
I was making the point that as far as property permanence and asset loss, EvE and SC have the exact same system

>>381862385
Only Early Acces game I bought was Ark, and I am not dissapointed in the gsme, just the community, but people will be trash no matter what.

>>381857710
How are they fucked? They've distributed 150 million dollars among themselves and have no legal responsibility to anyone.

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>>381864181
It was a conclusion though. Pretty much a swan song cash grab for the series.

Man but what if it all ends up working out, we'd have the greatest game in the world

>>381866972
Then a sock full of poo flies out of nowhere and hits you in the face killing you.

>>381855861
This

I think they figured with the $150 million they could do a proper game development scheme with a legitimate corporate style office, salaried developers etc. But that can spiral out of control quickly.

Now there's obviously a ton of NEETs on here who have never actually been in an office before and therefore criticise the wrong things. For instance they have an expensive coffee maker. Any firm engaging in creative activity will have that and it's not a problem to spend money on.

Yeah nothing wrong with a 20k coffee maker for 250 employees. Half this board can't afford a second hand wii. Wouldn't know what they are talking about. But anyone who backs games is retarded. There's a reason half these idiots can't get funded because they've run out of the usual pathways of people to con.

>>381858071
But this isn't Elite dangerous

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everyone shoulda saw this the moment they sold that 15k ship

>>381858071
>sjw libshit nu-male cuck
you should take a break

>ask for 6 mill get 150

how and why? Did it resonate with the FUCKING SPACEI LOVE IT crowd?

>>381863663
>>381858071
you are autistic and/or a child, its obvious

>>381855890
I backed Darkest Dungeon. 100% worth it.

>>381858071
agreed.

>>381868358
Someone bought a 15k virtual ship in a game thats not even been released yet?

Surely you meme?

>>381855753
>fur shitizen is doomed

who would have guessed? the developers are fucking idiots and blew all the money on unneeded shit like a 1300$ coffee machine

>>381871665
15k is small time, try 30k.

>>381870734
furries

>>381856659
>learn to startup moron

The set release date for this game was in 2014.

>>381871665
>http://www.pcgamer.com/meet-a-fan-who-has-spent-30000-on-star-citizen-ships/

He should have blown his shekels on whores.

>>381866183
but none of the other meanings in modern tongue have any relevance to said post

>>381872784
>Chris: Yes, I literally have everything and even then, multiple of everything, many times. [Laughs] I have the highest package in the game, which is called ‘The Completionist with the Million Mile High Club,’ which is a base package that’s $15,000. It didn’t start out that way, though. When I started getting into the game years ago, it was this and that, and this and that. And then after I started to see the product mature, I was convinced it was what I also dreamed of, and was hooked. I went in deep.

Sounds like a drug, or a cult.


Is there even a working prototype for the full game?

>>381866553
The game itself is shit on official servers
>Any worth while dinos/creatures take over ten real life hours to tame
>You can lose your tames which take hours to get in a matter of minutes if someone with more shit than you decides to fuck you over
And unofficial servers are ran by power hungry cunts that will cheat for themselves

>>381867752
>>381872520
Clockwork.

>>381855753
This is typical and my only concern is regarding the leak.

Didn't back or anything. Not gonna buy it, even.

>>381862385
The only Early Access game I ever bought was The Long Dark. Feels good that I actually enjoyed it and still play it to get comfy.

>>381855753
>Star Citizen is officially fucked. Thread #326
Literally call me when all their offices are actually closing.

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>>381863034
>>381863857
That damage control, they're fucked.

>>381863034
This is literally damage control. What they are saying is they are getting a loan because GBP is cheaper now. That's absolutely insane.

It is also not standard banking procedure to give all your assets in a loan except you know, when you have no assets to begin with like Star Citizen.

Also stupid enough to say that this is only Squadron42 and the whole is not affected. If they forfeit that part of Star Citizen, do you Cult fans not realize the whole Star Citizen game will be affected? That loan even includes ALL ASSETS. Including your ships, logos and more.

>>381857436
Some companies use it as market research to measure enthusiasm for the product. It's been overtaken a lot by scammers, small timers who aren't serious and companies who don't need crowdfunding, it has its place for hobbyist wanting to make a product or something like that but the market is limited and is bound to attract filth.

Derek, don't you have a job?

You even use the same pictures you stupid nigger.

>>381860676
skyrim was horribly rushed hot garbage. why compare to skyrim?

>>381861947
i pledged around 5-10 dollars. Im getting the single player game, im happy with that. getting a shooter on top with multiplayer space battles is iceing on the cake.
So far im still optimistic.

JUST BUY THE $17K SHIP OKAY

>>381862385
i got ark early access.
That game was 9.5/10 on the fun scale before the devs fucked it up with OP dinos and made materials easy to collect and dinos take 10+ hours. It's the Only game that compared to the level of adventure and multiplayer fun for me to vanilla wow. People meme about chasing the next WoW by trying out new mmos all the time. well Ark delivered that for a while.

>>381855753
>Putting the entire project as collateral for a loan.
Sounds like one more dip into the honey pot before they make a run for it to Mexico.
The good news is whoever provided the capital will pick up the license and pay to finish development with proper project management instead of dudes buying 40 000$USD cappuccino machines for the office.

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>>381877601
>yfw they spent 13k in a coffee maker.

>>381860570
>Who the fuck is Derek Smart and why do Star Citizen cultists accuse everyone of being him?

Derek Smart is that guy with an ego who marks his failures as successes and then gets amazingly bitter when someone else actually seems to be succeeding and tries to actively sabotage them because he's petty.

This time with space games.

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>>381855753
That's one stupid as shit bank.

Unfinished, unrealeased software as collateral? That will be really valuable in the event game never gets finished...

No wonder the financial system collapses periodically.

>>381877840
The reality of the situation is that SC is making use of a tax loophole before the UK Brexits and the value of the pound collapses, thereby lessening the value of the loophole.

>>381877798

Derek smart made battle cruiser 3000AD. Basically a 90s version of the modern SC/No mans sky/spore debacle. The game was touted as the next biggest thing with a full year explorable galaxy and customizable spaceship with crew, bear in mind this game came out in 97 after many years in development hell. Naturally it was a buggy mess and didn't deliver on its promises.

Not that I'm creating excuses for the man, but you can't bullshit a bullshitter Andy if anyone qualified to call out Roberts it's smart.

>>381877840
>It never gets finished.
>Star Citizen defaults on the loan.
>Loan insurers cover the loan.
>Bank gets software valuable enough for retards to sink 150m into it for free.

>>381855753
I don't really give a shit about this. Either the game will come out or it won't and I'll be down $30 that I spent 4 or 5 years ago. I've wasted more money on dumber things.

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>>381855890

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>when you game costs more to develop than several nations' economies

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>>381855890
>people unironically pay kickstarters to run away with their money
You guys are dumb as fuck

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>>381855890

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>>381855890

Very...Smart, hahahaha ha

>>381855890
Backed Overload (Descent reboot) and Grip (Rollcage reboot). Guess there are two sets of devs not scamming or blatantly incompetent. But that's two out of a metric fuckton. Not sure if feel sympathy for burned backers, gotta do that thing, what's it called... research?

>>381856454
dude that book is amazing shut the fuck up

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>tfw didn't fall for Scam Citizen

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>pc gaming

>>381855753
why would they stop? they managed to raise more than several countries' GPD on promises alone.
hell, some people even think scam citizen is a legit INVESTMENT.

but I do encourage them, they should rob stupid people of their money, it's almost a duty at this point

>Star Citizen kickstarter begins
>/v/ agrees that it will never go anywhere.

>6 years later, it didn't go anywhere.
>/v/ is full of morons who are actively defending Star Citizen.

What went wrong?

>>381877790
You do know La Marzocco machines come with lifetime repairs? They are standard in any work place also that isn't trash. My job even has one.
>poorfag piece of shit burger flipper doesn't have a good coffee maker in his breakroom
Go figure.

>>381855753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds

>>381855753
Other than the fact you can get off your ship, how is this game going to be any different than elite?

>>381880828
>6 years
It's been 4 and the average mmo development time is 7. Don't go full retard.

>>381855753
>It's a "/v/irigins argue about things they know nothing about" episode
always funny to read these kind of threads desu

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>>381880921

They're really good espresso machines but I prefer La Cimbali.

Best fucking espressos I've ever drunk in my life

>>381881018
Hi robert

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>that guy who spent all their savings into JAY-PEG'S
>"s-sorry ur poor....."

My brother in law knows someone who works on the game and I told him about all the controversy lol

Holy fuck. Op got btfo so hard yesterday he's back to spreading misinformation and fake news.

>elite dangerous raised 2 million and basically released the exact same game as RSI is making
>they did this in 2 years
How the fuck do people still believe this is not a scam?

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>>381859424
That 150 million is just the tip of the iceberg, they have probably taken twice that adding all the extra scamy shit they done while the owner sits on his yacht he bought. When this blows it's going to make No Mans Sky look like a shit 2d game that lost just a few thousand. Many many lawyers are going to be very busy when this blows. And he may have given it to the banks as a possible way out, it's the banks problem.

>>381877059
maybe because it's a financial success

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>>381882412
>same game
>ED
>A game with NO multiplayer tools
>p2p networking
>a dog fight addon that you have to log out of the main game and sit in a queue to join. No bots
>no in-game trading tools to keep track of what commodities to sell/buy
>grind that's worse than even what the gooks can do
>can't exchange credits with other players. Only way to trade goods is with the pic included... ONE item at a fucking time.

Tell me about this same game...

>>381883021
What the hell is with this game and rich dads emptying their wallet at it?

>>381883403
But where is this mythical game you're talking about?

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>>381862385
>backed MuvLuv Kickstarter
>getting finally that Codex
>getting Photon Flowers/Melodies
Life is good when you back things that aren't retarded

>>381883642
Go ask the autists playing. Both these games are shit at the moment.
One just has the honor of being "released" in the sense that they pushed it out the door; the other is still in development.
Think of it this way: For the Arena dogfight portion I mentioned, the CEO of ED has stated that they won't put much effort into putting QOL improvements since no one is playing/using said feature anyways.

>>381883604
Some people have spent their life savings, pensions and more in this game. This game has followers in the same why Jim Jones had followers. They will rabidly defend it to the death no mater how obvious and clear it is that they are being used.

>>381884053
How is translating an existing game (Visual Novel no less) considered an achievement over developing something from scratch?

>>381884098
>Go ask the autists playing. Both these games are shit at the moment.

Wait, are you saying star citizen has been released??

>>381883604
These are the people that were sci-fi fans their entire life, living for nothing except the dream to travel the stars. They lived through the 60s and 70s dreaming of the white polished glass cities of tomorrow and now have to accept the fact that they will stay in their shitty woodden houses but with internet-phones. The money they spend is more to convince them that what they do is worth it, if not their entire existence would be a cruel joke.

>>381884164
It's not an achievement but you have only yourself to blame for investing in a Kickstarter that you don't know will succeed.

>>381858071
>guy who pioneered point and click adventure games wants money = REEEEE ITS ALL NUMALE SJW SHILLS!!!!

>guy who pioneered space sims wants cash = totally fine

Just kill yourself

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>>381855906
>Derek Smart
Haven't seen that name in ages. He has shipped the large majority of his vidya projects despite their lack of high profile.

Wait, this game still isn't finished? Holy shit.

>>381884361
Exactly. And even if it succeeds there's still a chance of failure. Look at the Ouya and that laughable thing called the Coolest Cooler.

>>381884164
Codex is actually unique since it adds a lot of new stuff to Integral Works and Integral Works wasn't yet translated. Same goes for Photon Melodies and Flowers which is translated from scratch.

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>In January 2017, when asked about the financial situation of Star Citizen, Chris Roberts said: "I am not worried, we would have enough money to finish Squadron 42 even if no more money would come in. The revenue could then in turn be used to complete Star Citizen"
lmao scammed

>Never backed a kikestarter
>Only EA game I bought was Caves of Qud which gets steady updates

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>>381855890

>>381862385
Starbound will forever haunt me.

>>381867752
>with the $150 million they could do a proper game development scheme
No, what they thought they could do was simply expand the project. Not once. Not twice. Not even three times. How many times was it? I actually lost count. While the scope of the project was already large, it became gigantic afterwards. Which I don't think they'd be able to complete it in 10 years if they paid on average every employee 50k and that's be very generous on how low they'd get paid. That's a different argument though

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>>381857436
>mfw people used to say Sony won E3 for a game that doesn't exist and isn't even an exclusive to begin with

>all these vederation apologist furfags

>>381863034
You dont actually have any idea what that post is saying right?

Man I wish there were less idiots here.

>>381878135
>3000AD
>90s version of the modern SC/No mans sky/spore debacle
It wasn't even that, the actual build Take2 pressed to CD was an unplayable alpha. I know since I mistakenly bought a copy from a computer fair for 8 bux before realizing my mistake. There was a largely reasonable looking manual and a game where most of the functions did nothing.

If you think modern day publishers are bad, the ones of the 90's were even skeezier and more incompetent than what we see today.

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>tfw Star Citizen will create a PC Gaming crash and ultimately kill every backed project on Kickstarter
Please do.

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>>381885058
At least it did come out. And did receive some pretty ok content patches. Star Citizen keeps getting pushed back, keeps running out of money. Has lost most of their good devs that have walked out over time while Chris Roberts was seen having a more and more lavish lifestyle.

>>381880921
>poorfag piece of shit burger flipper doesn't have a good coffee maker in his breakroom
It would be mind boggling if he did have one. Like, he just ignored everything else for a fucking coffee maker.
Also I love it when companies do lifetime repairs.

>>381864164
Then explain why did you back Mighty Number 9?

>>381881010
This game was announced in 2011. There was a rough alpha footage floating around that time. Revisionism is one weapon of the SC cultists. Even if you say 2012, it is still not 4.

>mmo development time is 7
MMOs, not empty space battle simulator have deep thorough planning even before someone write a line of code. It would take months just to flesh lore out and more months for storyline, design and more. Don''t compare those to Star Citizen with most work relegated to GIVING YOU MORE SHIPS TO BUY.

Star Citizen today is literally an arena shooter with hangar mode. SC cults don't know that there is a lot of these in fucking smartphones today and those are not buggy messes with really short development time compared to SC that is not even out yet.

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>>381884569
>Tim Schafer
>pioneered point and click adventure games

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Post yfw you never bought any game

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>>381855890
the closest i came to kickstarter funding was preordering NMS.
i didn't think a developer would blatantly lie like he did. but he do

>>381887303
Is this a real post

>>381855753
Confirmed for no longer in development.
They're just getting whatever money is left out of it and bailing, leaving bank with 'project' that's absolutely nothing.

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>>381855890

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>chris_roberts_looking_at_his_SC_funding.png

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>Pcbros thought scamcitizen would save Pcbro gaming

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WHY ARE PCLOSER SO PATHETIC?

>>381855753
source neofag
:)

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>all these mad poorfags
Star Citizen is going to be fucking amazing when it comes out.

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>>381889052
>when it comes out.


so never?

TOO
BIG
TO
FAIL

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>>381885962

The only game with a higher development budget than Star Citizen is TORTanic.

>>381870598
t. sjw libshit nu-male cuck

>>381862701
That guy in the pic looks like a massive douchebag that would suck his own cock if he could

>>381888518
Nigga this is /v/, what do you think?

>>381861676
>"E-excuse me, I'm to tired!"
Keep trying to excuse yourself, illiterate fuck.