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>update game >can drive off road now Oh... That's nice

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>update game
>can drive off road now
Oh... That's nice
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>>381852635
>9 more gigs
when will it stop
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>>381853397
Never. They even have episode Luna in the survey
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>>381852635
is it out?
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>>381852635
Game?
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>>381855375
battletoads
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>>381855375
FFXV
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what shit is this
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>>381855375
Breath of the Wild on the Nintendo VirtualBoy
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>>381852635
Goodbye Chocobos I guess.
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When will they make it worth playing?
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>>381855653
After 3 more years of patches maybe
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This is something that should have been in at launch. Also the game is trash and runs out of steam pretty quickly as the story gets more retarded with every passing chapter
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I feel like all of these extra XV patches are just taking away possible resources for their next game. I mean it's nice that they're supporting thr game, but I don't think these minor features add much to the game. Kind of wish they would just give up on trying to save XV and move onto to hopefully make something new and better
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Off roadingis fucking satisfying. Running over small enemies nets ap. And crashing into large ones loseses their health but you need to call Cindy if it breaks. Makes more use of repair kits.
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>>381852635
Cool, they might actually finish the game before 2020 at this rate. Just need to add some meaningful content now.
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>>381857089
The three episodes And the girl's storyline are coming
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>>381852635
So does this mean chocobo are pointless now?
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>>381857414
Everything's pointless if you think about it enough, so just don't think about it buddy :)
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Why the fuck doesn't Cindy just help the guys attach a couple guns/cannons to their car? She literally engineered flying capability onto the Regalia using parts that she looted from Nifs, but she can't make a weaponized Regalia using Nif parts? Or at the very least attach guns to the Regalia Type F.

Dumb country bumpkin slut
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>>381855375
rragon's rrogma rrark rrarisen on gameboy switch ultra color 12 byte edition
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>>381855626
the car can't go in water or in tight spaces like between trees while the chocobo's can, it's really just a preference thing same as it is with using chocobos in older FFs that have other vehicles.
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episode prompto should be up within 12 hours hopefully
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>>381856625
SE have 12 different business divisions, and BD2 has people working on a new IP, the XV DLC and updates and other small stuff, as well as them doing R&D for new tech since BD2 is also the advanced tech department. Stuff that happens in BD2 doesn't impact stuff that happens in the other 11 BDs or vice versa.
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>>381857857
you can just rush shit over with the car now anyway
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When will these fucks stop diverting profits from XIV into this horseshit, just let it die already
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>>381859449
You mean when will they stop diverting profits from XV into that piece of shit XIV, and let that die already?


Besides it's their mobile stuff that funds most of their games, and DQX makes more in Japan than XIV does ww so eat shit XIVfag.
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>still 2 hours until my update is finished
dammit i wan to drive reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>be on ADSL2+ takes 10hrs+ to download 9GB
>get Fiber 15mins to download 9GB

feels good
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>>381852635
Is FFXV any good? I've never actually visited a FF thread with Old FFags in it. I've heard from general discussion that it isn't "as bad" as people say it is, but that it's not good.

DLC aside I guess, because if they're charging me for that shit that's ridiculous.
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>>381860262
Yeah, it's one of the best FFs, and I've played them all. Most of the complaints are exaggerated or just shitposting but there is some flaws, but it has a lot of good parts too.
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NEVER EVER
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>>381860262
in regards to common final fantasy practices and gameplay, its the least final fantasyish game in the main series

as a game, its ok for a playthrough
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>>381860262
Try the demo.
If you like the combat, I think you'll like the game.
Personally I fucking hate it.
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Why did so many people hate XV? It's actually one of my favorites, and I've beaten all but III, and X-2.
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>>381860262
It isn't a very satisfying video game. Every enemy in the game contains the exact same identical AI, which is just rush you and try to blindly beat you to death with no regard for their own lives. In addition, things like stats and levels mean nothing in the game. Whether you're level 100 fighting a level 2 monster, or level 1 fighting a level 200 monster, every enemy in the game will basically 1 shot you to "death". But to balance this you can pause the game at any time and heal yourself, even from death itself.

That being said, the game looks nice enough (art style is lacking) and sounds nice enough. If you can immerse yourself in the "friends on a trip" aspect, you'll find something to enjoy. It's a half decent friend-simulator. And a pretty decent camping/fishing simulator. Fishing mini game is one of the best out there

You could go into a whole thing about whether or not the story or characters are good, but at the end of the day, it isn't an aspect of the game that was finished
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>>381856104

Try never.
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>>381855375
Xenoblade Chronicles X
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>>381860346
>one of the best FFs
I thought it was the worst aside from 3 and Mystic Quest but I still enjoyed it. I've never played 2 or 13 though.
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>>381860886
>artstyle is lacking
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
now thats out of the way, what is exactly is wrong with it? the 11 hours i have used on it so far have been great looking
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>>381860346
>it's one of the best FFs

how young do you have to be to believe this
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>>381852635
get truck'd
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>>381860262
It's extremely mediocre. Combat is braindead, and you have to actively try and be killed, and it's not even flashy enough to make up for the shittiness. Story feels unfinished and cutup, and to even understand the story you have to watch some shitty movie. Music is good. Enviroments are pretty. It's not the worst game ever, but as a final fantasy fan I am very disappointed.
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Nier Automata is FFXV, but good. The Engine Sword's description in the game does a better job at telling backstory than XV as a whole does.
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>>381860886
this reads like copypasta
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>>381860504
thank god
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>>381861490
MAN THE HARPOONS!
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>>381861462
you can use it as one if you'd like
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>>381861350

but muh Sean Bean
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>>381852635

What's the point when there's nowhere to go?
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>>381860262
Yeah it's comfy as fuck with good atmosphere, combat feels more involving than your average turn based one since this is action RPG. love the music in it. the dungeons are fun. Story is thin and simple and feels like parts are missing but the end is strong. the characters being likeable carries it
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>>381861340
i wonder if you can hit aerial enemies by jumping
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>>381861340
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>>381861647
The dungeons across the three regions you have access to in Lucis, the various outposts where and areas, venturing to find monsters and stuff.
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>>381861063
the art style aims for realism. Because of this the graphical limitations of the game shine through. When you're in a heavily wooded area of Duscae the screen is filled with full foliage, grass, trees, bushes, and nice colors and lighting, plus the guys models always look great

But the minute you're in the car staring out into the distance you're just looking at terrible LoD and bland plain field and rock textures.

Had they chosen to give the game a more interesting world and style like FFX, or god forbid, even FFXIII, it would have aged far better and been more captivating to explore
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>>381861682
>combat feels more involving than your average turn based one since this is action RPG

This is there dumbest thing I've read, but I guess it is summer after all.
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>>381861350
>>381861682
>story is shit
can i fugg the southern girl?
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>>381861868

So sweet fuck all.
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>>381861920
what you're talking about is just console limitations, it's got nothing to do with artstyle.
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6 months late. I wanted so badly to bea ble to go off road to break up some of the fucking tedium of running from A to B, and because the car on-rails was some dick tracy shit, snapped to the road, you had to actively create scenarios to even damage your car. It was a snoozefest.

But I sold that shit for $50 the week after it came out, no regrets.
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Does this mean that landing the flying Regalia off of the road is no longer a game over?
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>>381862103
any game that aims for realism to the degree XV does will age very very poorly. There isn't a defined style to the games art at all
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>>381861936
It does though because you're in direct control unlike in turn based.

>>381862009
I didn't say it was shit just that it was thin and simple, it's not convoluted like 13 or 8, it's more simple like 5 or 1.
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>>381862009
I wish. Not only can you not fuck any one, but all the porn is cuck shit full stop
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>>381860886
Holy shit, you actually can beat this game at level one. And pretty easily too. I didn't know that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DisW75R6CVo&list=PLktxxv4x3Vxj8fDVtBqXKwR9lxAm-7sP0&index=10
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>>381861936
But that's true. Unless you want to tell you you can run around attacking, dodging, jumping and doing various actions on the fly in a turn based game?
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>>381860262
Basically lad, its a heavily flawed game but theres still something to be enjoyed in it.

The story is actually fantastic, but half of the shit that should have been there for it to be coherent isn't, and you have to read up about it online to fully appreciate whats going on. The gameplay is average, the car is awful, but the characters are great and so is the story thats barely there. I know it doesnt make much sense, but I like the story more now that I know what happened by reading it online more than I actually liked it at first when I played through it.

It also has one of the greatest tracks in videogame history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMBRBXe7Qro

Basically, gameplay fluctuates between below average to above average, and the story stays average except for a few standout parts, but is really good once you actually get what happened. I say wait for them to add in the DLC bits to potentially get a better experience.
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>>381852635
So why do chocobos exist now?...
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>>381862012
No, to go to places you would go normally, same reason you'd travel across the world map in any of the FFs with one.
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>>381862250
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>>381862231
It starts out easy to digest, with a simple redemption/kingdom invasion story, then it just gets progressively more convoluted, especially after Altissia.
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PCbro here, is there a chance we get this on steam before they're finished with adding dlc?
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>>381862275
Yeah, there's really no difference at all between a level 1 playthrough and a normal playthrough.

The few skills you can obtain that add to the combat you can still get through normal AP farming means in combat. And your low HP and MP are easily supplemented with gear stat boosts. Not to mention if you want to add on the cooking to that

If anything the game's difficulty feels more balanced to the level 1 runs
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>>381852635
>>381861340
I cant believe they are actually adding this in

My two biggest complaints with 15 were the car and the missing story, and both are being fixed with DLC

I seriously wish I waited a year or 2 before I got this game
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Deleted the game today because of that 9gig dl that i will never use
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>>381862184
There very clearly is which you can tell just from how the monsters, dungeons and various areas and people look in the game.
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>>381862424
people keep saying its going to be announced at gamescon because they're building up an announcement that feels bigger than a normal dlc. But I dunno, seems weird to do the port before this season pass is done.

Not as many people are going to double dip on their dlc if they release pc version before its all out
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>>381860886
Dont lie, the fishing mini game is literally the worst fucking thing about the game.
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>>381862536
All you have to do is look at
>>381861340
>>381852635
to see that the game has no defined art style and already looks bad in most areas. There are specific character/enemy models that look good, or specific cutscenes/set pieces that are lit well. But 95% of the time your'e going to be experiencing a game which will visually age like old dirt
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>>381862275
You can do FF7 at level 1 too.
https://youtu.be/AJEYrUMV8QU

>>381862352
Same reason they do in any FF?

>>381862459
Unless you're using equilizer buff while at level 1, which negates the point of a level 1 run, then no.

Like seriously doing level 1 challenge run, but then using a buff which negates the level difference between enemies level and your own is effectively nulling the entire challenge.
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>>381862424
PC most likely won't be announced until after Ignis, which most likely won't be until the end of September.
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>>381862687
>to see that the game has no defined art style
I can see a clearly defined artstyle, that is a desert and the other is a grass plain, by your logic FF6 has no defined artstyle because this battle bg is just some flat ground
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wait theyre still updating this garbage heap?
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>>381862705
Leveling up in FFXV does not gain Noctis any abilities at all whatsoever, nor is there any equipment or weapons in the game gated by levels.

You can gain large amounts of HP, Attack, Defense, MP, etc just by equipping the right weapons and gear. In addition to this doing things like killing enemies with warp strikes, or link attacks will give you AP, enough that you can get any abilities you want that you would get from level ups

There's almost no difference at all in a level 1 run except for a little less HP and MP. Esspecially if we're just talking about beating the main quest which offers no challenge

Especially since potions and phoenix downs are cheap and can be used with zero restrictions, even when both of Noctis' hp bars have hit zero

The game should have level gated something, but it abilities or gear, to make leveling matter in some form
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>No one is talking about the best feature of this update that lets you listen to the Episode Prompto soundtrack because the DLC even releases
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>>381862946
Because Tabata can't let go until someone tells him he isn't a failure
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>>381862645
Fishing was great fag
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I don't know anyone could hold this game is any sort of high regard. It was such a bland experience.
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>>381863021
Funny enough, Tabata's not even working on the game anymore. The DLC and updates are being and have been helmed by completely different people.
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>>381862949
So what? Leveling up increases your stats, and you use the acension grid to unlock abilities with AP you get.

>There's almost no difference at all in a level 1 run except for a little less HP and MP.
Dude I know you're full of shit, unless you're using equalizer buff that nulls the level difference void, you are going to be constantly smacked to 0HP in a level 1 run and enemies take longer to beat. And using Equalizer makes doing a level 1 run pointless.

And if you're already doing a level 1 challenge run then why are you still wimping out and relying on potions?

You have the means to take out enemies without having to rely on potions already, simply through your acension abilities and weapons, that doesn't mean a level 1 run is a breeze.

>>381863006
It releases in less than 24 hours doesn't it?
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>>381862946
The game is great and they're making it better.

>>381863021
Tabata isn't even directing the DLC or updates, Shida is directing the DLC and Nakayama is directing the updates.

Tabata is most likely already working on his new IP that he said he wanted to do before XV was even out.
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Is every game just fucking early access bullshit that never stops now?
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>>381863427
>they're adding free updates and some DLC stuff that means it's early access
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>>381863427
Yes.
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>>381863256
This is insanity. Plenty of people have beaten XV at level 1 without using equalizer and there is no advanced technique involved. It just plays exactly the same. Combat does not change because of level ups. The only stats seeing gains are your HP and MP, and HP doesn't even matter in XV because all that matters is whether you get hit or not. Enemies like the Deathclaw in CH12 or Ravus in 13 are going to 1 shot you into danger whether you're level 1 or level 40, so its all pointless. You either dodge the attacks, or use potions. The levels are just another way of gaining AP that isn't necessary because there is a minuscule amount of abilities that exist in the game that alter the gameplay in a meaningful way
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They seem to add a lot of content through free dlc, are there paid ones too?
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>>381863479
Except this game was missing a chunk of itself at launch that they later patched in, so where do you draw the line between "free updates" and "finishing what you fucking started"?
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>>381863479
>show off road driving in trailer for the game
>later say in an interview you decided not to do it because it was hard
>never mind, its in the game 7 months later as an update!
wow, totally not early access
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>>381860262
It's painfully mediocre or even outright bad for some people if you can't stand the combat. XCX did just about everything but story better.
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>>381863665
>XCX
eh
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>>381855489
This one
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>>381863536
>Enemies like the Deathclaw in CH12 or Ravus in 13 are going to 1 shot you into danger whether you're level 1 or level 40
What sucks is that they had "stat changing magic" as one of the things in their poll. Protect and Shell could help with these attacks, but I'm betting nobody picked it because the game also needs all the story shit they showed in the poll. I don't think adding Protect and shell wouldn't take very much dev time.
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>>381863734
Kind of my reaction to the game too, but I still feel it was better than FFXV. XCX had some aspects it did very well (world, sidemissions, exploration), but others it did poorly (story, soundtrack, character designs), but was overall a better open world jrpg imo.
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>>381863536
leveling up raises all your stats
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Should have never even bought this game, now I'm just going to have to buy it again when they come out with the complete edition, because fuck if I'm paying for all these dlc individually.
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>>381864060
I meant
I don't think adding protect and shell would take very much dev time.
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>>381861490
who is this semen land whale?
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The magic in this is the worst videogame mechanic in several years.
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>>381862331
>but the characters are great

When will this meme end? They're as grating and cringeworthy as the weebiest of weeb games. And don't even fucking get me started on Gladio or Prompto. I literally wish I could mute them permanently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP2zsTPty90
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Wasn't there going to be an update that lets you create your own character to run around the world with?
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>>381863582
the paid ones are more like proper expansion packs, with stories about the main cast's adventures when they split off from the group. You know, gladius' random disappearance, when that faggot fat fatty fat fat falls off the train, and when blindy does some blind shit I don't know.
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>>381864620

Yeah more shit that should've been in the game.


Can't wait for the 7 Remake with Yuffie and Vincent DLC
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15 MINUTES GAMEPLAY
15 MINUTES GAMEPLAY
15 MINUTES GAMEPLAY
15 MINUTES GAMEPLAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxAx2nf7cwQ
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>>381864537

That's the tacked on multiplayer they're planning
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>>381864537
that's for the multiplayer dlc
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>>381864751
Yo joke, but it could very well go that way.
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>>381864805
wait, does it pick up right after when he falls off the train?
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>>381864751
not really, it's a mistake to have that stuff as DLC because they removed characters from the main story for extended periods, for no reason. But nah it's not like it was cut content they could have added in. It's a bunch of novelty game modes to try shit out. The expacks are supposed to all play fairly different from one another.
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>>381858995
Wait, fat prompto is canon now?
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Anyone else considering replaying the game when it is on PC eventually with all the new content? I am deeply considering it.
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>>381865172
Brotherhood was always canon
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>>381852635
Have they patched in a story yet?
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>>381865204
Probably. It'll be an entirely new game on PC. The engine is getting overhauled, completely brand new enemies, multiplayer mode, content from the survey will be added. We really did play the early-access version last year.
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>>381860262
I rather play through 13 trilogy than play 15
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>>381864328
>cringe
There's that word again. Go back to red edit.
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>>381864805
goddamit, the corridor sections look really bad

getting Chapter 13 flashbacks
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>>381865445
Don't say things you'll regret
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>>381863536
>Plenty of people have beaten XV at level 1 without using equalizer
Yeah and those people didn't ever say it was easy so I have no fucking clue what bullshit you're trying to spout here. I've never seen a single person say level 1 run was easy without them having used equalizer buff.

>It just plays exactly the same.
Except for you getting beat to 0 far more often and you doing far less damage. How much damage you do is impacted by level ups, you have entire stat multiplier boosts in the ascension that only work because of your level increases too. And leveling up does increase your stats.

And no, only some enemies have actual 1 hit KO moves that if you are hit you are dead and have to use a phoenix down, stuff like Ravus knocking you down is just because he hits hard, and when I fought him I was around level 60 and he didn't 1 shot me. YOu make use of the ascension grid abilities like impervious for recoveries, airstep/airdance for aerial combat, airslip for aerial dodges, you make use of shields for manual staggers and you make of of other weapons you want to use. Each weapon has their own warpstrike and most have their own discretional too.
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FFXV-KUN!
FFXV-KUN!
FFXV-KUN!
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>>381863656
>wanted to do it but couldn't because too many bugs and shit (this was back when they tried just having it as the regular car offroad)
>they decided it wasn't worth it by release, you already had chocobos for offroad travel on release anyway
>now that it's after release they have more time to work on stuff they wanted to put in but wasn't necessary by release, like offroad, and they rework it so it's a monster truck so you aren't getting stuck on every little pebble, also the car can now jump and damage enemies
>this is somehow early access
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>>381864328
>Cringe
>weeb
lol
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>>381864751
Their DLC episodes is different to stuff like Yuffie or Vincent joining.

Gladio, Ignis and Prompto episodes all take place while you are already doing stuff as Noctis in the main game, they are essentially just a "meanwhile" sidestory showing what they were doing while you were doing stuff as Noctis in the main game.
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>no XV-kun
I've been away for a couple weeks. What the fuck happened? Also, what all have they added to the game since release? I stopped after they added NG+ and I decided it wasn't worth playing again until they finally finished the game.
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>>381865023
You can see it a few minutes in there where Noctis goes to attack him and he falls off.

>>381865172
Fat prompto was always canon.

>>381865780
The episode has snow exterior area as well as military base interiors
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>>381852635
>update game
>they've now pandered to their fujo audience and confirmed Prompto as gay for Noctis
Fuck you SE cucks.
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>>381863479
There's dlc that explains why characters leave the part, and can open doors with his hand that were never explain in the main story. The next dlc will probably show how one of the characters went blind, another thing left out the story.

Updates let you explore places you couldn't and now you're able to drive off road. Plus they changeda chapter. They made it so you can now run, have a faster weapon and added wheat the other characters were doing in Chapter 13.

It sounds a lot like they could of just had this stuff from the beginning, but they didn't, cause they rushed an unfinished game out.
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So I started a new game while driving the Regalia Type D from the beginning and it makes the game so much better holy shit, especially during hunts you can get there so much faster. The game should've released like this.
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>>381866954
They need all the support they can get.
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>>381867821
It was supposed to, and it probably could have, but they thought that holding back cut content and having a roadmap to extend this game's life and relevancy was a better idea.
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I should finish this one day. I played for 40 hours but never got past chapter 3.
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I just want to see new Tifa and find out if she still has big bazombas.
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>>381862352
Probably some areas the car won't fit through, plus chocobos can swim.
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>>381868809
Was there ever a reason to swim?
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>>381869092
There are couple of hidden fishing spots in the Vesperpool you can't reach on foot.
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>>381855375
Dragon's Dogma World
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Why won't they finish and add the removed area in Niflheim? reeeeeeeeee
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>>381861340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb3zSgxMuug
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>>381852635
This just shows me how stupid SE actually is instead of implementing the stuff they showed for 10 years in trailer.. they waste ressources on shit that no one asked for not just that they implement something that makes other game play designs in the game absolutely worse less therefore making the game worse, congrats se you just made chocobos worthless.
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>>381870618
One thing that boggles my mind is how Bahamut wasn't a usable summon from the get-go or why he's hasn't been added in yet. Just have him do the animation where hurls swords at the grounds and you're done.
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>>381866954
What the fuck are you talking about? He has a crush on Cindy.
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>>381870845
He has a crush on everyone. Regardless of gender. He probably got fucked in the ass by Ardyn during the night they camped together.
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Menace Sleeps in Costlemark made me realize that this game's combat is actually a lot more fun without items. If I ever do a replay I'll definitely be restricting my item usage big time. Maybe never buy any and only use what Gladio picks up.
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>>381860959
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>>381862275
the game allows for using infinite items including revive items at any point......
its a harder challange to beat the game witout items just playing normaly than it is to play on lvl1 with no item limit.
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Never played a FF but I dig the whole roadtrip with buddies thing.
Do I need a season pass or something for all the dlcs like off road car? Can I drive off road from the get go or do I need to finish the game?
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>>381871432
you dont need the season pass for the car update. All updates are free, the episodes dlc is not
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WHY AREN'T ANY OF THEM WEARING SEATBELTS?!
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>>381852635
you cant before?
lol
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>>381870845
Anon was liveblogging his playthrough of the DLC. I'll copypasta everything he said.
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taken from /ffg/

The reason AraAra tells him he'll lose all hope of her helping him is because he gives up after thinking this (translated from nip):
>Ignis and Gladio...they surely know by now, I...I was already a failure, now they'll hate me for being a defect...
>Noctis...already wants me d-dead...Why...Why should I live?! Without Noctis, I'm...nothing...I'm nobody...I wanted him to love me, but I ruined it...I RUIN EVERYTHING! I ruined a-any chance of being by his side now, dammit! I love him so much and yet...and yet it's all over!

More info:
>If you wondered why Aranea is helping Prompto, it's because she's his older sister
>Technically, all MTs born before Prompto are his siblings
>MTs are no longer made by having Verstael fuck a human woman, so newer MTs are not related to Prompto
>Prompto's biological mother was indeed that Naga; she'd been kidnapped at age 14 and forcibly impregnated by Verstael along with dozens of other women to create babies for Niflheim to experiment on, one being Prompto, another being Aranea, who had also escaped at the same time as Prompto and other test subjects
If you want to find out about the test tube Prompto look alike, or who Prompto's shooting in that one trailer, you'll have to wait for that.

At least the AraSpecs shipperfags will be happy. There is no doubt in my mind that Prompto is gay for Noctis after the dialogue I got. He doesn't say "I'm gay for him" but I just got another piece of dialogue while walking through the snow and wew lads:
>I just...I just want to be warmed up by Noct...It's so cold, but he's...so warm...

I just got ran over by my own fucking snowmobile. (I think this was him?)

>AraAra: Listen, kiddo, you don't need to worry about me, just make sure you get to your friends alive. I don't wanna have to tell them you died from forgetting how to breathe.
>Prompto: I....uh..yeah...right.
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>>381853397
At this rate it might be a good idea to have a separate storage for FFXV
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>AraAra: Doesn't Specs feed you enough? I could crush you with my thighs.
>Prompto: [shocked choking noises]
Ara please don't talk about crushing your younger brother with your sexy thighs.

>Aranea has left your party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bAPlojfgO0 [Embed]

Aaaaaand kidnapped a second time within an hour. Sasuga Prompto.

>Ardyn is torturing Prompto while pretending to be Noctis
I'M LAUGHING
I'M CRYING
FEELS LIKE I'M DYING

Holy shit this cutscene is brutal. I never really liked Prompto that much, but I'm getting pity pains from seeing him get bitch slapped and kicked around like a puppy.

And now he's crying and apologizing to Ardyn!Noctis and begging him to kill him.

I think Prompto knows it's Ardyn but he's apologizing anyway.

I'm not going to say what just happened because I want you all to see it for yourselves but gif related is mfw

That was a near 8 minute cutscene jesus christ. I think I'll stop here for now. Goodday/night, all.

Current DLC rating: Bad Touch/10
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>>381864209
Same here, thinking of selling mine.
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>>381871872
if they made prompto gay, its the most stupid thing, in the world of ruin they say that he is working hard to impress cindy, so its a given he has a crush or even really likes her. Also the Photo sidemission conversation
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>>381860978
>tfw you're the only one in this board that likes 3
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>>381872089
Cindy's the side bitch, plus if the above spoilers are true it'd make sense that he'd try to hide his feelings for his country's prince by being desperate for girls. Could be bi and trying to fill the hole that Noctis will never.
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>>381871978
>>381872049
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>>381852635
Holy shit, you can drive offroad in FFXV now? What's next, swimming?

Can you land the plane offroad as well?
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>>381872215
im hoping for a mistranslation of the word "suki" in japanese does not mean love, if they used the word "ai" though....
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Isn't this offroad thing makes Chocobo Rentals completely irrelevant?
Nice game design, SquareEnix.
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I didn't get to play the Holiday event stuff. Did I miss anything else? Got the season pass, so I should still be able to play all the DLC, right?
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>>381872318
Anon said he used the word suki and ai.
>mfw him losing weight just to impress noctis was foreshadowing
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>>381872542
well, shit
I liked his innocent thing with Cindy
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>>381871978
>>381872049

>Aranea is Prompto's sister

Yo, what the fuck? Why didn't she mention this before?

>Prompto's biological mother was indeed that Naga; she'd been kidnapped at age 14 and forcibly impregnated by Verstael along with dozens of other women to create babies for Niflheim to experiment on, one being Prompto, another being Aranea, who had also escaped at the same time as Prompto and other test subjects

HOLY SHIT

>I just...I just want to be warmed up by Noct...It's so cold, but he's...so warm...
>I wanted him to love me, but I ruined it...I RUIN EVERYTHING! I ruined a-any chance of being by his side now, dammit! I love him so much and yet...and yet it's all over!

no fucking way

>AraAra: Doesn't Specs feed you enough? I could crush you with my thighs.
>Prompto: [shocked choking noises]

KEK
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>>381872542
>used the word "ai"
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>>381855375
Final Fantasy XV: A Feature Fixed.
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>>381871978
>>381872049
>>381872665
This game is so fucking bad, Prompto being gay for Noctis almost improves it.
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>>381871978
>Without Noctis, I'm...nothing...I'm nobody...I wanted him to love me, but I ruined it...I RUIN EVERYTHING! I ruined a-any chance of being by his side now, dammit! I love him so much and yet...and yet it's all over!
I'm not sure if Attack On Titan is ripping off FFXV or FFXV is ripping off Attack On Titan anymore.
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>>381872878
I mean at least it'd be believable and not /too/ forced, considering the whole "lose weight to impress my hero academia noct" thing, which is pretty fucking gay and I've only ever heard of people losing weight to impress someone they have a crush on.
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>>381871801

>Noct sometimes sitting on the backrest

One bump on the road and the king is dead
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this game
sucks
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>>381873006
You'd think Ignis would wear a seatbelt and force everyone else to but no.

I'm starting to think Ignis actually wants them all to die.
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>>381852635
kind of ruins the road trip feel desu
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>>381873050
Does this look like the face of mercy?
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>>381873204
>another day of this shit
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>>381855375
Final Fantxy XIII Lightning's New World
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>>381871801
the thing barely goes 70mph with THE BEST engine
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Will all these DLC shenanigans lead to eventually being able to use everyone in the main campaign or will their playstyles be relegated to each character's episode? It would be a waste.
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>>381873301
But you get thrown around a lot.
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>>381873381
For now the DLC episodes are the only way to play as the other characters, with the exception of Gladio in Chapter 13 2.0, but it's pretty much confirmed that we'll be getting new playable characters down the line.
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>>381873381
I doubt the game could handle 4 different playstyles with on the fly switching.
If anything you may have to change the party leader in the menu
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>>381873461
I swear to fucking god Prompto intentionally uses him getting thrashed about to grab onto Noctis and rub his face on his arm. Look at him in that gif. What a fucking sneaky bitch.
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I hope they announce a PC port with all DLC included.
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>>381873281
Talking of which, it still disgusts me how bullshit Lightning Returns's title is. Like she was this wonderful character everyone cherished and awaited so desperately for her triumphant return. What a piece of trash title.
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Thanks a lot.
The only trophy I have remaining is lvl10 Survival skill with Gladio, because apparently I haven't been walking enough. Of course not you fucking retards because walking is slow and tedious, that's why you implemented Chocobos and the Regalia. And now you make the Regalia able to go off road. Why? So you don't have to walk. Fucking retards.
I'm so pissed about this trophy. I have nothing else left to do in the game but pointlessly walking around to platinum it. And there isn't any consumable or ability to speed the process up. Fuck.
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tfw your favorite character sounds like a bad tumblr oc
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>>381873553
Well, Prompto did spank Noct's ass that one time.
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>>381873675
Just rubberband it, dingus
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>>381872324
What? No way, hold on, they can fix this. They will just add... I don't know.. a side car! Yeah, a side car so you can drive your chocobo around with you! Plus they'll add more racing! That's cool, right, more chocobo racing tracks? See, easy fix.
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>>381873828
I'd actually like more racing tracks.
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>>381873828
>>381873675

You guys don't get it. The Chocobos were always just tech demonstrations. You're not actually supposed to use them.
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>>381873715
He calls Noct hot, sexy, AND cute multiple times in the Japanese dub, too. And when you're choosing a photo to take in the end, if you choose a photo of just him and Noctis together, unlike in the english dub where he's like "l-lol that's sweet but creepy bro", he says "O-Oh...Noct, I...Thank you. I'll always be by your side." And if you choose one of just him, he says "N-Noct, just me? A-Are you sure? I'm very honored, but...What about Gladio and Iggy?"
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>>381873973
What about when you lose your car?
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>>381873974
I kind of bet Noctis is a closet homo, as well. He doesn't really have any romantic chemistry with Luna and I think he's forcing himself in to the wedding because if people found out that the King was a fag,...well...then there would really be a World of Ruin.
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>>381874052
Just fast travel to it, or haul ass and run.
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>>381874104
>He doesn't really have any romantic chemistry with Luna
that's an understatement regardless whether he's gay or straight
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>>381874104
He could be, or not. I think he just doesn't love Luna romantically, or anyone romantically except Chocobos because according to him "there's no wrong way to love a chocobo". fucking furries.
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>>381874104
>tfw Ardyn (and his suggestive dialog) is a representation of Noctis' homosexuality trying to break free
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>>381873974
Do you know if Ignis and Gladio also have dialogue if you pick similar pictures with them instead?
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>>381873675

After getting all the other trophies, I put on casual gear and went on a marathon from Hammerhead to Galding Quay through Vesperpool. Started at survival level 8 and hit 10 halfway along the road back to Hammerhead from GQ. Took about five in-game days of nonstop running.

It was...unexpectedly comfy
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>>381872324

>Having a new option makes other options irrelevant

YES, REMOVE ALL FREEDOM OF CHOICE
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>>381874164
It was at one of the enemies military base , right? You go to it and then wait for night fall to sneak in and get it back. I don't think you cold fast travel to that, but I guess you can fast travel to the nearest gas station/camp site. I don't remember what place that would be
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>>381852635
I can really see the next-gen "hdr" colour range at work there, nice job Sony
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>>381874329
No, but it's just really unnecessary. It's sad to think that their efforts could've gone into something more useful.
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>>381874224
>his suggestive dialogue
Explain?

>>381874246
Gladio yes, Ignis no because >blind
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>>381860591
There isn't a demo anymore
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>>381874380
Don't know about necessary, but a lot of people asked for it.
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>>381874376

Salty Nintendo shit poster detected
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>>381874394
There always existed sexual tension between Ardyn and Noctis. And now Ardyn and Prompto. Ardyn likes twinks.

That sequence where you follow Ardyn's car around and camp with him for the night made me really uncomfortable. Ardyn has such a rapey vibe around him
constantly, and his soft, sensual voice doesn't help.
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>>381874265
I plan on doing this yes, but do you know how annoying it is that we are getting an update where the main attraction is off road driving, something designed specifically to NOT do what I'm about to do. And I can't take advantage if it.
If this doesn't reek bad game design, I don't know what is.
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Cindy or AraAra?
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>>381874613
Big Sis Aranea
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>>381855489
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>>381874601
>sexual tension between Ardyn and noctis
I don't get this but I want to. Can you give me an example?

Yeah that was creepy. Have you seen gif related? filename is mfw i saw it for the first time
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>>381873586
You'll buy the season pass and like it, goy.
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>>381874756
>that gif
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>>381874756
No kek, I must've missed that. But anyway, that whole car scene is just really fucked up and I'm not sure what it's trying to convey. Seeing Ardyn's vulnerable side, and seeing him drive around in his '70 Chevrolet Camaro was just really weird and unsettling.
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>>381874601
I must admit, I love the man's voice. Great piece of work.
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>>381875385
Something about the Chevrolet Camaro just made me crack up, but could you refresh my memory? I don't really remember his vulnerable side.
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>>381875857
His vulnerable side has to all to do with the car scene. The way he talks about his Car, the fact that he drives a bright red, feminine Car in the first place and not a truck or something. The way he just stumbles around autistically during the trailer-rest scene and converses with the guys around the table. The fact that they even all slept together that night... Just imagine Ardyn changing into his PJs, brushing his teeth and saying goodnight to the guys. It's all just so fucking weird. I don't know why they thought it was a good idea to humanize him, because it tainted how I viewed him for the rest of the game.
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>>381864236
Don't you mean sperm whale?
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>>381876535
It doesn't have to be that way, it could have just been Ardyn putting up a facade to avoid showing his true colours too early.
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>>381855375
Stealy wheelie automobiely 5
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>>381875385
He wants Noct's boipucci despite them being very very very distantly related.
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>>381876535
>how dare you humanize a villain
Anon pls. I do agree it was really strange. It's like seeing photos of Hitler gleefully holding baby puppies and you can see how joyful he is about it. I mean, Ardyn is far from hitler, but it's to the same effect. A lot of people forget that antagonists are humans, that even in real life those who they go against are only human and outside of being psychopaths or narcissists, they most likely want what's best for the world and do what they think is best. They probably get happy when holding kittens or puppies just like you. Many people dehumanize and see those against them as inhuman. But they aren't...probably. That realization is what made me stop being a feminist/sjw tumblr cunt.
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>promised years ago, can now go off-road
>8 months after launch

>going to be able to play as prompto
>as paid dlc, 6 years after it was shown
What a great game
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>>381871978
>>381872049
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kek just jumped up one of the arches in the car
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>>381880713
Can you flip the Regalia by doing that? Can the boys go flying out of it because they're retarded and don't wear seatbelts?
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>>381866954
The fuck you on about? Ep prompto literally has him teamed up with Aranea, and he's still obsessed with Cidney too
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>>381871978
>>381872878
k e k
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>>381870618
>instead of implementing the stuff they showed for 10 years in trailer..
off road car was shown and fans demanded it probably the most out of any single feature.

I guess chocobos are worthless in every FF once you get the airship huh?
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>>381871978
I WANT TO PROTECT PROMPTO
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>>381860504
>noctis is a junkie
>stella is rape victim and off'd herself
>mafia stuff
I feel ya. Just like original Persona 5, we will never ever experience it.
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>>381871978
How does that imply he's gay? Prompto was desperate for anyone to love him, as a human, not romantically.

Meanwhile they added new dialog in the update that has him still obsessing over Cidney.
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>waiting for Aranea dlc
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>>381855375
you're a big guy
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>>381880857
Read the above thread.

>>381880943
>skirt chasing womanizer
>womanizer
LEL
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FFXV is definitely a game worth playing two years after release

Just seems to me that everyone who bought it on release got fucked the hardest since most updates for the game are just fixes or adding features that should have been in from day 1.
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>>381855489
Dropped
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>>381881243
Yeah it stings like a bitch. I might've actually liked the game too.
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>>381881243

Not at all. If you got it on release, then you get to play a different game every time you boot it up.
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>>381881371
Yeah, a game that gets worse and worse
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>>381881371
Yeah but most people wont want to play through the story again.

This update that lets you drive offroad for example would be far better on a first playthrough, it's something that you should have been able to do from the start.
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>>381881447
>Yeah but most people wont want to play through the story again.

I don't see a problem, with the story being like 5 hours long.
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>Aranea: Hey blondie, check this out.
>Prompto: W-wait a sec... that's me!? But how!?
>Aranea: Heh, not bad.
>Prompto: H-hey don't look down there!

Ara perving on Prompto clone dick
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>>381881574
Sauce?
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>>381881596
Read the doujin
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>>381861539
>implying you wouldnt make her squeal like a piggy
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In what ways would you PROTECT Prompto? Details, please.
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>>381881735
fag
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>>381880126
>prompto shown only using a single hand gun 6 years ago

>prompto using SMG, sniper rifles, bazookas, batons and handguns now with improved TPS gameplay compared to before

>offroad before was only a few second long clips of the car on some flat offroad land

>offroad now is going off road and jumping on shit as well as ramming into monsters

So what you're saying is they improved it?
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are they going to patch in the ability to play as all of the characters in the main game? having everyone be AI only turned me off a bit from the game
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>>381881797
No I'm saying now I have to pay extra to play as him now. I'm sorry that you are eternally upset and cannot read correctly
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>>381881675
What doujin and where?

>>381881735
I'd protect his dignity by gently taking his virginity in secrecy instead of raping him on a college campus.
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>>381881945
wow $5 your life must be in shambles
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>>381882037
>Literal shill that does it for free
the pathetic life you must live
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>>381881793
It's not gay, it's M A S C U L I N E.

>>381882020
That's n-not acceptable, a-anon...
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>Still no sauce for this prompto stuff
Is it really that hard to just take pictures? the system literally has a screenshot function.

where is it even out in? it's not even the 27th in Japan yet.
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>>381882090
>holy fuck $5 for a dlc episode boycott that shit anyone who is against me is a shill, SHILL I TELL YOU
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>>381882173
This is really sad, I hope SE sends you a shirt or something at least
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>>381882116
In Japan, some hax0rz got their greasy hands on the DLC before it officially came out. Australia too.
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>>381858995
Is it a free update?
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>>381882223
I got mine for shilling the game back in November. Signed by the man himself.
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>>381882271
>Lunafrena
WEW
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>>381882271
>he literally is one
Well at least you admit it
kek
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falling with style
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>>381882441
The webms that the guy makes always look so fucking stupid
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>>381882223
>how dare this SHILL buy some five buck dlc like a SHILL

Unless you pirate every single one of your games what the fuck are you doing trying to look all high and mighty for over people buying DLC?
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>>381882441
>Gladio pulling Prompto back down into his seat
I understand now. They don't wear seatbelts because Gladio is their seatbelt.
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So does it have like 40-50gb of patches by now?
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>>381882263
Ep Gladio, Ignis and Prompto are $5 each.
Off road car is part of the free update.
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>>381882557
>still salty that people aren't sucking SE dick
wew
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Wait. They added something that game changing is a patch over half a year later?
What the fuck. I though XIV was the MMO.
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>>381882651
>still salty people pay $5 for DLC so he calls everyone a shill
lad
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>pop in ffxv after beating it months ago
>makes my ps4 go into maximum overdrive
Did they optimize it for pro or something? Its so fucking bad I can hear the parts rubbing against each other.
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>>381882689
XV is literally going to become an MMO in the near future on PC. Then when they pull shit like the Moogle Chocobo Festival again, it'll be less retarded because it's actually an MMO
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>>381871296
You just improved FFXV by 500%.
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yes tabata-san

polish that turd

polish it until it's shiny

a shiny fucking turd
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>>381882727
>he thinks I'm upset that other people are dumb enough to fall for SE tricks
lel, I'm laughing at you. No amount of "no u" posts can change that you dumb dumb
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>>381882727
To be fair, no one is going to just buy one of the DLCs. If you're willing to spend 5$ for one character episode, you might as well just buy the whole season pass. The Gladio DLC doesn't interest me one bit, but Prompto's and the multiplayer thing do so I'd just buy the season pass.
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>>381872123
3 is significantly better than 1 in every way, I'm convinced that the people who think it's in anyway bad have no clue what the fuck they're talking about. It's a genuine famicom RPG classic.
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>>381871978
If Aranea was Prompto's sister wouldn't it have said so in the guide, just like it specifically says Verstael is his biological father in that?
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>>381883012
wait people think 3 is bad
the fuck
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>>381882929
I don't agree. I'm interested in the character episodes but not at all in multiplayer. $25 for the season pass vs $5 x 3 for the character episodes.
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>>381882880
You are upset which is why you are calling them dumb to begin with.
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>>381882929
I dunno, my sister loved FFXV but she didn't buy the season pass and only wants to get the prompto episode.
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>>381883113
>no you're upset because I said you are
lol ok friend
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>>381883176
>makes insults stemming from the fact that he's upset
>pretends he isn't upset
ok man you're not upset that people are buying $5 DLC that's why you're calling them dumb or shill because of how not upset you are.
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>>381883065
yes. I mean, it is an archaic game compared to what came out later, but the way it gets shit on despite the myriad of direct improvements it has over FF1 blows my mind. I still haven't heard any good explanations as to why it's bad, other than some useless jobs and grind (FF 1 is just as bad if not worse in this regard unless you're trying to max everything out).
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>>381883049
It'd be a surprise. The individual-chocobro DLC has been planned long before the game was released.
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>>381883282
Man you sure are slow, almost like talking to xv-kun but you seem even dumber
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>>381882689
At least XIV just continues the story and adds new dungeons and shit. XVs patches are mostly just shit noone asked for or timed events and 30 second cutscenes and shit
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>>381861340
Only the XV dev team would take a clip of you running people over in a car and being able to take it off road and be capable of acting like its something worth making a big ordeal about in a conference.

Fuck the dev team who made XV, had such a cool concept and all of them squandered it.
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>>381883451
Honestly, the game is just an open-book, tech playground for the dev team now. Hopefully by them fucking around with Luminous like this, XVI will make even better use of the engine from what they've learned.
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>>381882271
Well done. You can show your mom how you got your tshirt signed by a man who directs psp spin off titles that was for some reason, given the reigns to one of the most important games Square has ever done and absolutely blew it.
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>Wrapping up, Tabata and Akio Ohfuji revealed the team is preparing to make some large-scale announcements regarding Final Fantasy XV this Summer. Specifically, they held back during E3 to better prepare for the news to come – currently penned in for Gamescom in August.
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2017/06/final-fantasy-xv-teases-large-scale-announcements-gamescom/

So what's it going to be?
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>>381883670
The multiplayer and/or Ignis ep
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>>381883670
Maybe PC and suddenly everyone will love it like they did with 13
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>>381883670
Versus, not even kidding. There's literally nothing else "large-scale" to do with XV besides a Versus Project.
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>>381883618
But here is the problem. I don't care about XVI. This was THEE game they had to get right for me. The concept of a character that can conjure swords from thin air and warp to them is one of the best any director could work with. Unfortunately they decided to give it to Tabata, whose input into squares repertoire of games in no better than their main HQ's night time janitor.
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>>381883754
That is never going to happen. Nomura hasn't discussed it all since being moved off xv and no one is going want versus without his brand of autism attached
Let it go anon
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>>381883670
car armour dlc
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>>381883670
Don't care. Unless these announcements are
>we are revamping the action combat to be more versatile and deep and not letting Tabata fucking touch it. Also magic won't take a weapon slot
>we are making sure the animators can actually animate action combat
>we are rebuilding the open world to be less of a flat plane, littered with roads and with more thematical diversity
>we are finishing the story and letting you explore Tenebrae and a well crafted Insomnia.

NONE of these will be in the announcement so I have little care for this game
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>>381883670
Full-fledged canon manga/anime adaptation.

>>381883754
>Versusfags
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>>381883980
good taste
I hope we get what you listed
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PC port when?
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>>381884120
Fat chance. Tabata would rather you cook food, drive on rails and fish. All whilst watching the side content like the anime and movie which he said we shouldn't have even needed to exist since XV was supposed to package everything up in just the game.
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>>381862485
>Didn't follow the hype
>Never played FFXV
>Won't play it until the complete edition re-release
>Haven't had anything spoiled
Feels GOOD.
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>>381884235
It's not that good
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>>381884235
PROMPTO IS A GAY NIGGA, IGNIS GOES BLIND, GLADIO EXISTS ONLY FOR PRODUCT PLACEMENT AND FORCED DRAMA, AND NOCTIS DIES AT THE END
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>>381860262

tons of flaws but when it works it is amazing

the summons are fucking epic visually speaking but jesus fuck getting them to show up is a hassle
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>>381883825
What if you can conjure weapons in XVI with actual good gameplay to compliment it?
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>>381884293
>>381884315
lol didn't read. Feels G O O D.
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>>381884514
I respect your decision, shame you didn't read this post though
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>>381853397
>tfw most games are dozens of GBs these days
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>>381883825
>Unfortunately they decided to give it to Tabata
Are people still giving Nomura a free pass over XV? The guy is let loose burning money for 10 years and keeping 2 big franchises on hold and still get a pass? Talk about privilege.
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>>381884738
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>>381884782
He didn't say anything about nomura. He said tabata is shit
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>>381882242
it's not even out yet in australia either.
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>>381884782
You can dislike more than one guy you know, Why is always black and white in XV threads, you guys always think that when you dislike one director you love everyone else
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>>381883667
I forget, making a profitable AAA console game when you've never made one before being one that has the creator of the franchise consider it his GOTY is somehow "blowing it".
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>>381885090
>when you've never made one before
Oh it shows
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What are the chances of this game + dlc(As the complete edition) getting on the Xbox one X?
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>>381883670
desu I want them to put this scene into the game, they even confirmed it is still canon so it makes no sense to not be in the game when it's like a 1 minute scene using assets already in the game.

perfect place to put it is when noctis was just put into slumber when Bahamut told him all the stuff, this scene https://youtu.be/FXMJTGna_xA?t=1m1s plays after Noctis has his "life flash before his eyes", then he wakes up in the 10yl time skip.
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>>381884926
>>381884926
It's just that i feel for Tabata, the guy gets a lot of flak while nobody blames Nomura.
Can you imagine yourself in his shoes? The first main FF you finally get yourself to direct is some broken ass project. And you're given 2 years to finish what the studio dreamboy director couldn't 10. The guy just salvaged what he could with what he had.
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>>381885363
>while nobody blames Nomura.
Are you retarded
>Can you imagine yourself in his shoes? The first main FF you finally get yourself to direct is some broken ass project
He asked to be on the xv project and his wish was granted. He doesn't get a free pass
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>>381885335
That scene made me wish I had a dad.
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>>381885363
Appreciate the effort, but would've much rather had the project canned than to have it "salvaged" in two years.
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>>381883754
World of ruin as a full thing
Niflheim fully explorable
An Ardyn expansion set in a medieval Eos 2000 years ago
Regis's journey from 30 years ago as an expansion

Really there are plenty of things they could do before even considering doing Versus.
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>>381885486
Oh I forgot
>2 years
He was brought in 2012, and became sole director in 2013
He had more than 2 years, stop decreasing it
>The guy just salvaged what he could with what he had.
He throw out most of what he had and ignored the advice of his team
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>>381884315
>PROMPTO IS A GAY NIGGA
No he isn't

> IGNIS GOES BLIND
People who followed the game before released speculated this based on the prophecy painting from 2015 showing a blind man.

>GLADIO EXISTS ONLY FOR PRODUCT PLACEMENT AND FORCED DRAMA
Gladio is the older brother figure who employs tough love

>AND NOCTIS DIES AT THE END
Again something everyone anticipated, and should have been obvious anyway, Noctis's name literally means night, and the game nails over your head a lot that you have to banish the perpetual night to restore the light of the dawn, aka Noctis/Night must die in order for the dawn to come.
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>>381884782
Nomura fanboys defend literally anything he does and desperately try to absolve him of any guilt while they blame Tabata for everything.

Just see how many people try and blame Tabata for anything that happens in any of the DLC episodes, despite Tabata not even being the director on the DLC episodes. Shida is director on the DLC episodes.
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>>381884926
And he's clearly trying to take a shit on Tabata because he's angry he replaced Nomura.
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>>381852635
Who the fuck wanted an ARPG where you only control 1 party member? They should have cancelled production as soon as some muppet decided to brand it as "Final Fantasy XV". It's not worthy of the "Final Fantasy XV" moniker and it's as if SE learned NOTHING from XIII.
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>>381885932
>And he's clearly trying to take a shit on Tabata because he's angry he replaced Nomura.
No that's the narrative you want to spin.
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>>381885052
So according to your logic
>game was better before when it had the old director
>game is shit now with thew new director

>But the old director fucked up and didn't do shit and now he's fucking up on other games too, the new director actually released a game that people enjoy

>durr i never said i liked the old director

Apparently this somehow means you weren't favoring the old director despite you clearly are defending the version he was creating, therefor you are defending him as a director? If you didn't like the old director then why are you saying you prefer his thing when it is even more unfinished and more of a concept than anything in the new version by the new director is?

Don't give me that "durr but the trailers" bullshit. You didn't play them, no one here did.
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>>381886242
>So according to your logic
It's amazing how your insane ramblings got that from just a single post
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>>381885628
>World of ruin as a full thing
That's just the game with a darker skybox and higher level enemies. Not large scale project.
>Niflheim fully explorable
That would be really lame desu. We dont need a Duscae reskin.
>An Ardyn expansion set in a medieval Eos 2000 years ago
They already said they're going to explore Ardyn. This is probably something brand new.
>Regis's journey from 30 years ago as an expansion
Lame as fuck. It'll just be a reskin of Noctis' journey

If anything, I hope they somehow translate the Insomnia battle from Kingsglaive into game form and let you play as Nyx and Luna. Diamond weapon, Kings, Kaiju battle and all.
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>>381885486
>>381885649
Still, as far as hard projects go, XV is right up there. Whatever mess he encountered, it's an accomplishment he finished it.

>>381885542
So did i, but maybe SE put too much faith in their directors. FF franchise always get a pass.
When you think about it, they failed 3 main projects in a role: XIII also had a long cycle and was what it was; XIV had to be redone; and, XV having to change directors to ever see the light.
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>>381886358
>accomplishment he finished it.
More like an accomplishment he released it, since it still isn't finished
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>>381885363
Nomura fanboys are extremely defensive because they have to defend Nomura's honor over two different upcoming games now, so they can't allow anything negative to be said about him or pertaining to Versus/ his version of XV.

It's hilarious how many times I've seen Versus fanboys try to blame Tabata for "putting in" the roadtrip brotherhood aspect in the game, like the irony is so palpable and they are so oblivious.

They also all seem to think CG shown in the 2008 trailer was actual CG for the real game, when that CG was never gonna be used in the game even if it was still Versus, since all the designs changed in 2009 and again in 2011.

Then there's those Versus "fans" who don't know that characters like Cidney, Iris, Ardyn, Gentiana, Umbra etc already existed since it was Versus but just weren't shown until it was XV.
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>>381886596
Your hateboner for anything that has to do with the guy is truly remarkable
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>>381884351
That fucking music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As23YZntpGo

I kinda hate how the summons cheese an already piss-easy game, but on the other hand I'm glad we finally get summons that aren't completely useless waste of time
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>>381885649
>He throw out most of what he had

You mean Versus was only 20% done by 2012, and most of the basic concepts, ideas, thematic elements, all the music etc were kept.

Here is a list of things from Versus not in XV as far as are award to the public.

Stella Nox Fleuret, because she was replaced with Luna Nox Fleuret
Switchable party members and autoweapon switching, because they decided to focus on Noctis and give him manual weapon switching instead.
3 members in the party at once max, because they removed switchable party members they increased party capacity to 5 in a apart at once
Double jump, because they implmented airsteps instead
Rideable magitek walker, replaced with using stationary rocklaunchers or turret guns at Niflheim bases instead
Umbra turning from a dog into a human Ninja, in the final game it states Umbra simply takes the form of a dog but his ninja human form is never shown.
Once Cor joined the party he was permanent, this was changed to emphasis him as more of a mentor with his own activities keeping him busy, while his character itself remains the same.
Noctis and co being inside Insomnia when it was invaded before going on their roadtrip, now the invasion happens while they are outside of Insomnia before going on their roadtrip
Some minor design changes here and there.

Basically everything else we ever knew or seen about Versus is still in XV. Noctis, Gladio, Ignis, Prompto, Regis, Cor, Iedolas, Ardyn, Verstael, Gentiana, Cidney, Cid, Iris, Umbra etc all in XV since Versus.

Oh and here is something that changed when it was Versus, in Versus originally the main villain was Safay Roth, but in 2010 when Ferrari created Ardyn he replaced Safay Roth as the main villain of the game, Safay Roth only remains as a reference in the "SAF" letters on the side of the Niflheim imperial airships.

Seriously man, a few fucking dotpoint elements that most of which were concepts on paper got changed when it became XV, while most things stayed.
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>>381886596
>give XV a chance; play through it in it's entirety
>it's pretty mediocre
>every piece of material I saw for Versus was still more interesting-even if a lot of it was concept, that concept was better than the concept we ended up with
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>>381886024
You only control 1 party member in every FF.

>b-but you can give commands to others
and you can give commands to others in XV too.
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>>381886310
And how wouldn't a Versus be a reskin of XV when the only difference is you run through insomnia corridors at the beginning of the game instead of only at the end, and stella is there instead of luna along with some minor design changes on stuff like hair and clothes?
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>>381886242
I just mean that i dislike both if them. Calm down bud
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>>381886716
And yet everything I just said is things that happen and I see frequently.
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>>381884403
I also like the cosmetically concepts of the character design. At that point they will just be recreating the game.
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>>381887918
No it's things you want to happen because it helps to spin your insane narrative
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>>381887542
You mean your headcanon fanfic.
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>>381888010
If you are honestly denying that shit then you are on damage control.
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>>381887778
>reskin of XV

XV is a reskin of Versus. I want what we were shown all those years ago.

>stella is there instead of luna
Except this time Stella would actually stick around longer than 5 minutes.
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>>381888102
>Why doesn't anyone believe the lies I make up
>they must be on damage control, that's it!
Barry you are autism personified
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>>381888217
Let it go man. What you were shown was never a game, just ideas and marketing.
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>>381869831
Wait, is Ffv as fun as Dragons dogma?
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>tfw for a total of 2,986 USD, you can dress up as Noctis, or for 3,014 USD as Prompto
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>>381884738
Moot
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>>381885932
I am angry because I assume almost any director could have taken Nomura's concepts and either make them the same but better.

I hate Nomura but I am fully fucking convinced he would have made a better game then a man whose trailers we saw after the announcement of him being a core director (which was likely way earlier than the actual announcement) put a huge emphasis on driving a fucking car and eating.

Tabata had done these things.
>downgraded the combat to use less weapons than the 2013 E3 demo.
>made the combat around the concept of holding down the attack button instead of doing crunchy attacks for each and every button press (simple kinaesthetical failure)
>ruined the animations because they have to work to accommodate his awful hold O philosophy that doesn't hurt his hands
>made magic take a weapon slot, consume a resource we have to gather, and down grade from the original animation.
>failed to make weapons have unique properties like the Engine blade could heat up and rev whilst slashing for extra kick
>could not direct animators to make good action combat animations. Look at the spear combo for proof of how incompetent this team was.
>Open world littered with invis walls
>the worst boss fights I have ever seen
>CONSTANTLY changed the story
>made an open world which was way too big for such little content it had in it.
>lied about XV being a "full package" in saying that you only needed to play the base game to understand the full story which is not even remotely true.
>made a movie which costed a high budget and flopped horribly
>misleading trailers which pan around Tenebrae like its an explorable zone when in reality is a fucking balcony to look out on to.

But hey, at least some high tech went into fishing, photography and cooking. Glad to see Tabata's right mindset for a fucking action combat game. Im tired of Tabata apologists that jump to Nomura's short comings like it excuse some no name psp spin off director
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>>381888663
Wut
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>>381888979
Don't worry, xv-kun will still find a way to make it seem like you're a nomura fanboy
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>>381885868
Nomura is shit but he has at least made capable games. Tabata has no fucking idea what to do, XV is one huge messy canvas of shit flung to the walls.
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>>381889115
Ill happily defend letting Nomura direct this game over Fucking Tabata any day. Try me XV kun.
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>>381889429
Good luck anon, try not to lose brain cells arguing with the idiot
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>>381888217
Versus doesn't exist as anything more than a concept and some concept trailers, and at this point if it were to exist as a game it would be a reskin of XV because XV is an actual game that exists.

That picture you just posted is not even gameplay, it was literally a CGI mockup, aka it's fuckin fake as it gets. So I don't even know why you posted that.

>Except this time Stella would actually stick around longer than 5 minutes.
And you know this because?
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>>381887464
You're literally selling me on Versus lmao
All of those things sound infinitely better than what we got.
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>>381888218
>t-they are lies everyone, d-don't pay any attention to him
Nice damage control
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>>381852635
Final Fantasy XV is the gift that keeps on giving.
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>>381889015
Those are the official outfits of the two twonks. Roen, the fashion label that designed their outfits, are/were selling each article of clothing on their website.

Prompto's vest alone was like 900 dollars.
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Square fans have the biggest case of stockholm syndrome i ever seen.
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>>381870909
kekekekek
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>>381852635
This only after getting the flight upgrade? or do you get it sooner when its relevant, also dlc only?
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>>381855653
You mean when will this multiplat game be on the switch?

Never ever.
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>>381860262
I liked it a lot. But it has a lot of letdowns. One of the biggest is the setting itself.
You have two empires and empty shit in the middle, with nothing but truckstops essentially.
I can see that this "inbetween empires" idea sounded great on paper, but basically 90% of the game revolves around nothingness and diners/truckstops.
Its such a waste of space.

But yeah, in the end I liked it a lot. I sold it already, but I'm probably getting the complete edition at one point when it comes out
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>>381881797
>It's acceptable to take 6 years to program an SMG and AR into the game.

Jeez
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>taking more than 15 or 10 min to download 9gigs
Jesus fuck where do you faggots live? Uganda?
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>>381889564
>Versus doesn't exist as anything more than a concept

A concept that was used as the basis for XV. Versus came first, which makes XV a poor man's Versus.

>That picture you just posted is not even gameplay
>Implying they couldn't pull a conceptual sequence like that off today

Hell, it really isn't that hard to make a leviathan sequence that isn't dogshit like the one we got.

>And you know this because?
Because Stella isn't an afterthought, unlike Luna.
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>>381884403
What if every single person on the earth becomes immortal tomorrow?
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>>381888979
>either make them the same but better.
First of all Tabata did make them better. Second of all Tabata made an actual game while Nomura made fake trailers and CGI to try and distract you from the fact that he has jackshit actually made.

If not even Nomura could make the 2013 Altissia stuff as a game, which is why it was CGI to begin with, then why are you expecting someone else to?

Attack button instead of doing crunchy attacks for each and every button press
Except you tap to attack and you have responsive attacks, with the sword and lance animations from the 2011 trailer being used in the final game too.

And again no, never once do you ever have to hold, you can tap at any time and you are better off for doing so because of manual finishers, fuck off with this holding meme, it just shows how clueless you are over how button inputs actually work

Magic was shown as two completely different fucking things in 2011 and 2013, so why would you expect it to remain the same as either when not even Nomura had a solid idea for it? It is also vastly upgraded from the original effects while the actual casting animation is still the same.

Weapons do have unique properties, like holy fuck did you even play the game? Wyvern lance deals extra in the air compared to other lances, sword of the father has a massive boost on its finisher which buffs you temporarily, etc

The animators did do good combat animations, and the spear animations are using the same spear animations we have seen in both the 2011 and 2013 trailer footage, as well as shown in 2014 and 2015 builds, you do know directional inputs exist right? You do know you have different opening attacks based on your distance right?

What does invisible walls have to do with FUCKING ANYTHING you dipshit? So you're saying Nomura wouldn't have had invisible walls?
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You may want to see every KH boss as not a single one of them is good, while at least XV had a great penultimate boss and Ardyn still has the spectacle with intensity.

Nomura constantly changed the story too, we literally have confirmation that it was changing every 3 months while under him, not to mention every single Versus trailer we saw showed some new story thing that contradicted someting we saw in an earlier trailer, thus making the older thing a change too. He changed designs constantly too

The open world wasn't too big for anything, the open world part is the same thing as your FF1-9 world map just in 1:1 scale which is something people had been clamoring for ages.

He didn't lie at all, you don't need to watch the movie, anime or anything else to understand the story, because the main story is told and resolved within XV.

Anything important in the movie is learned in the game, the anime has nothing to do with the main story, and the DLC episodes are all sidestories about other characters, the main story about Noctis and Ardyn is told and resolved within the main game.

The movie not only made money, while also being funded by Sony, but was received better in Japan than the other two SE movies, so I have no idea what the fuck you are on about. It wasn't even planned for a theater release to begin with either and only got a limited showing in a few theaters because the fans demanded one. And since the movie also came with every copy of the deluxe and UCE version of the game they already made money of off it.

How is showing an aerial shot of Tenebrae misleading, that trailers purpose was shown different parts of the games world, Tenebrae, Niflheim and Altissia, along with Leide, Insomnia, Duscae and Cleigne are areas in the game.

But hey you have to shit on the photography which everyone loved for some reason, you have to shit on the cooking which everyone loved for some reason, you have to shit on the fishing which plenty of people loved for some reason
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>>381889246
Where are these capable games Nomura has made recently? I see nothing and he hasn't made shit since 2005.

>>381889115
That fag clearly is a Nomura fanboy.

>>381889429
Oh of course you would because you're most likely a braindead KH fanboy too.

>>381889579
No I am not, you're just being contrarian because you have no actual argument.
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>>381890982
Ive seen nothing Tabata has made that isn't shit since his entire career.
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>>381890982
You literally made my argument for Versus for me.
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>>381890512
Finland. Top speed is 1.2mb/s and the connection costs 40€/month.
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I didn't even payed for this game and I feel ripped off still.
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>>381890897
Go away XVkun you insufferable cunt.

Tell me if Tabata could direct good combat. Then why can't Noctis run and swap weapons at the same time? Something which was actually displayed in Nomura's 2013 trailer.
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>>381890520
Versus didn't come anywhere because it's not even a game that exists, it's 20% of one as of 2012 because Nomura was such a fuckup he didn't know how to make a console game anymore.

XV made use of the concept and made an actual game, so now at this point if Versus was to exist as a game it would be a reskin of Versus, because XV is the one the exists as a game first, and Versus is now the reskin if it were to now be a game.

And how is it a poor manes Versus exactly? Did you play Versus? Tell me more about that?

So you're sidestepping the fact that Nomura showed literlaly fake CGI shit trying to pass it off as gameplay. Also in the 2013 trailer you don't even see Noctis fighting the Leviathan, you only see him attacking soldiers and warping around, so HOW THE FUCK do you know that Nomura would have somehow made it better, when he didn't even make it playable to begin with?

>Because Stella isn't an afterthought, unlike Luna
You didn't answer my question honestly, and Stella is a failed concept, hence why Luna is a character who actually exists, Stella was cut for a reason and it was because she wasn't a good character, her role made no sense and it has even been stated multiple times officially that what Stella was actually like and how "fans" like you perceived her to be were completely different.


But I guess according to you Tifa being someone Cloud knew since childhood must be an afterthought?

In FF7 original concept Tifa was the character we know as Aeris, just named Tifa with Tifa's design, and she was also Sephiroths brother, then they changed her design to the current design of Aeris we know today, and changed her name from Tifa to Aeris as we know it today, and then stopped Aeris and Serphitoh being brother and sister, then they created a new character named Tifa who is now someone Cloud knew since childhood.

Stella is barely even a fucking character, Luna is an actual character.
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>>381890982
>Where are these capable games Nomura has made recently?
Dissidia
Kingdom Hearts
Theathrhtythm
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>>381852635
Didn't this come out like a year ago and fanboys all over the internet told us you would be able to do this in the final game in the first place?

How is this nice?
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>>381890828
>XV
>responsive attacks

You're so fucking predictable Barry. I unironically hope you get cancer, but then again you open a copy of XV so you kinda already do.
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>>381890828
You can tap but the animations do not sync up with the attacks. They are made to work with holding down.

Yes I CAN tap. But it isn't good so I might as well hold down. Manual finishers I can just tap for those single instances. Still doesn't feel responsive as a hack and slash fanatic as myself.
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>>381890828
>holy fuck did you ever play the game

I swear you have this on fucking copy and paste XV kun. There is no visual or unique input other than damage modifiers. Nero in DMC4 has a better engine blade than Noctis and is a prime example as to how it should have worked.

Wyvern lance should have had the staple, falling from sky special attack, but no.
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i love these threads. no for real. i hope square reads these, as 4ch is the only place where there is actual discussion anymore.
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>>381891265
XV was great and CC was good, better than anything Nomura has bade in well over a decade.

>>381891276
This is not an argument.

>>381891414
Hey look more lack of arguments.

> Then why can't Noctis run and swap weapons at the same time?
You do know you can swap weapons mid combo right/while in the air/warping? Also any time Noctis was shown summoning a new weapon in the 2013 trailer he was stationary.
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>>381891901
But Leddit is le front page of le internet now. Smhh tbqh fampai
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>no u
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>>381891979
>CC was good

Story maybe, shit combat.

XV is a bad action game.
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>>381891514
Nomura didn't make Dissidia any more than he made Type-0
Nomura didn't make Theatrhythm any more than he made 3rd birthday or Crisis Core
KH games have all been shit with the only one with decent combat was KH2FM only on CM and only on challenge runs against end game bosses, and that is a decade ago.
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>>381888979
this is true, but at least the movie was a ride and actually had emotion

but you could see the stinky hands of this retard in it
ruined the game, had probably friends high up because no way would a competent anyone hire him
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>>381861386

this
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>>381891565
Yes responsive, this here was me tapping to do the attacks manually and they came out just fine, and the controller vibrates on hits you do which only confirms it is responsive.

I mean it's obvious you can't deal with being wrong because your fanfic on what you thought Versus was was wrong and your desperate attempt to shit on XV was squashed.
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>>381855375

Terranigma 2
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>>381861386
What is even funnier is Noctis can constantly warp the sword to his hand if he throws it during combos, which is exactly what 2B, 9S and A2 do during sword combos. But because Tabata has no idea how to make a good action combat game with the concept of a character as powerful and versatile as Noctis he couldn't so instead Noctis holds the sword firmly and swings it around like he has MS.

Nier Automata's characters could handle Noctis' sword better than he could. Pathetic really.
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>>381891709
>You can tap but the animations do not sync up with the attacks
Yes they do.

>They are made to work with holding down.
No they are not, here is me tapping the buttons deliberately slowly on purpose just to show you that individual attacks come out when you just to tap.

If I tapped faster the attacks would have come out quicker. The sheer fact that manual finishers even exist is because you are encouraged to tap, you never have to hold.

For fuck sakes why does this shit need to be explained to you dumb fucks every single time?

All holding does is repeat the input of attack for the duration you hold it, while tapping does the attack on taps.
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Is Noctis still the only playable character in maingame?
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>>381892415
The timing between all of those attacks feel horrible inconsistent.

Game should have had Nier Automata or even DMC4's combat. What a shame since this webm looks so fucking dull for a character who can summon swords from thin air and warp to them.
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>>381892140
>KH games have all been shit with the only one with decent combat was KH2FM only on CM and only on challenge runs against end game bosses, and that is a decade ago.

One of the best portable combat has been re:coded, which also took the frameworks from BBS, which is also a good game by its own.

While X is mediocre, Unchained X was already a good mobage; the only problem is the international distributors being an ultra-merchant
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>>381892591

Imagine if Platinum worked on XV.

PROTIP: Noctis has the same VA as Eve
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>>381892716
>those frame skip animations when the sword hits a target.

Is this supposed to be impressive?
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Are the side quests still chores with nothing to do with the main story
Is the combat still a case of hold attack and wait for meters to fill?
Do you still move at snail speed while you're in a dungeon?
Does it still take 600 steaks to cook dinner for 4 people?
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>>381892415
>>381892716

christ this is like Nier: A for retarded children
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>>381892813
Hey Im XV kun im gonna call you a platinum fag for liking one of the definitive animation riggers in Japan which are constantly hired out from other major companies because I cannot stomach the idea that XV had shit animations and horrible Kinaesthetics.
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>>381860262
Feels poorly plastered together
Its worth trying for cheap, but my day one buy might be one of my biggest buyers remorse, and I'm someone who bought the Spore Collectors Edition back then
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>>381891856
>I swear you have this on fucking copy and paste XV kun

No I have to ask this because you cannot seriously fucknig try and say weapons do not have unique differences if you have played the game.

>There is no visual or unique input other than damage modifiers
Did you just ignore all the royal arms and that there is 7 other normal weapon types? Did you ignore many of them have their own directional inputs and that different weapons have their own abilities, like I just fucking mentioned Wyvern lance does higher damage when used in the air compared to other lances that don't get the boost, sword of the father has a stat boost which increases teh damage on the finisher by a bunch and buffs you. What the fuck would "adding an extra single hit" somehow change that increasing the attack damage output itself on a hit wouldn't?

>bringing up straight up hacknslash into a discussion about an ARPG
You have already failed at this argument. Try again or just stop trying.


Do you know why in KH you get one weapon that gives something like an extra hit as part of the combo? Because EVERY FUCKING KEYBLADE HAS THE SAME COMBO otherwise, there is no directional inputs in KH, attack combo you do with kingdom key is the same attack combo you're gonna do with any other, only maybe one or two has an extra hit at the end of the combo string.

XV doesn't do that shit because it has actual physically different weapons with different animations, directional inputs and their own warpstrikes in additional to passive abilities on them and in addition to you being able to switch between 4 of them on the fly whenever you want.
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>>381892813
If the future of Final Fantasy is action RPG, then I really want Platinum to handle the game. I hope that Square sees how loved Nier Automata is and that Platinum is a really talented studio in which they can trust their flagship franchise.
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>>381892142
>had probably friends high up
That friend was be nomura. Nomura was the one who asked him to come up with BC, asked him to direct a third parasite eve game, was drinking with nomura when he came up with coded, and asked nomura if he could be a part of the xv team. Conman tricked the idiot nomura so many times
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>>381892103
XV isn't an Action game, it's an Action RPG, and it's a good Action RPG.
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Is there any reason to buy this game before it is actually complete? I feel like I should just wait out all the DLC.
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>>381893362
>and it's a good Action RPG

God no, the combat is fucking terrible.
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>>381893225

I'd rather they learn from them instead of relying on them.
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>>381893362
>An Action RPG without good action is a good Action RPG
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>>381892901
Ap is super easy to get now. Each strike attack kill nets you one AP. It's great. AP farming is so much easier now.
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>>381893562
>Square Enix
>Learning from their mistake

Pick one
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>>381893645

They did with XIV so anything's possible.
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>>381855375
Gran Turismo: Final Fastasy
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character creator for making your self insert fuccboi when?
I want to set between Gladious and Prompto
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>>381893213
I would rather one expansive weapon than a myriad of shitty shallow weapons with badly animated combat.
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>>381892591
No they do not, Noctis handles his sword far better, and the animations for his regular sword attacks are there since Versus so I really have no idea what the fuck you are even on about right now.

>>381892738
No it is not, the timing between hits there is smooth and and fluid. And that is showing the absolute bare minimum basic attack happening there, so again you got proven wrong and you then start moving the goalposts. How pathetic.

>>381892813
Then all the enemies would have been just slightly different versions of 1 thing instead of the true variety XV has now?

Also I find it funny how people who try to shit on XV for "durr you never need to do the flashy stuff" then try to fall back on automata when you never need to do that stuff in automata either.

>>381892815
First of all maybe you should read what is being said, second of all that is just basic attacks with me deliberately attacking slowly, and thirdly you have no idea what the fuck you are on about.
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>>381891490
The essence of XV is Versus. You literally said it yourself: "basic concepts, ideas, thematic elements, all the music etc were kept." That 20% accounts for the basic concept of Versus, which was effectively used as a stepping stone for XV. XV even has re-skinned concepts from the Fabula Nova Crystallis Universe.

>Did you play Versus?
No, but I did play XV and every concept in Versus was executed better, as you stated yourself here >>381887464

What's wrong with it? They were showing a concept that they were aiming for. It
>HOW THE FUCK do you know that Nomura would have somehow made it better, when he didn't even make it playable to begin with?
Because Nomura wouldn't ever let something as horrid as XV's Leviathan sequence slide by. Nomura actually knows how to utilize good combat, good scenarios, and make fun, engaging, challenging bosses, as evident with his games. He holds himself to a high degree of quality standard and would strive to effectively capture the concept he laid out.
https://u.nya.is/vpakho.webm

>Stella was cut for a reason
And you're reason isn't even right. She was cut because the direction XV was taking was not suitable for her character and the relationship she would have with other characters.
>"The team had wanted to keep Stella and pursued ways to tie her into Final Fantasy XV but struggled to make sense of her character and role within the new game. After a lot of consideration, the team decided not to include Stella and go with a new character named Luna, who has a different role in the story Developers felt uncomfortable working on a well-known character if they had to completely change their role, and this is why they decided to change the character."
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>>381852635
No off road driving was more immersive. This is stupid.
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When's Episode Prompto coming out? So I can watch it on Youtube since I'm not paying for that shit
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>>381892905
>waah these clips of literlaly the most basic sword hits are somehow bad but I can't explain why and because you called me out i'm going to make some bullshit after the fact response just to pretend to be right about xv somehow being bad

>>381892997
No you're just a retard that can't accept the fact that XV has great animations and that you keep ignoring that the basic sword and lance animations used in the final game have existed since it was Versus anyway with the same exact timing and hit and speed, but you're going to feign ignorance on that on purpose because then your desperate defense of Nomura falls apart.
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>>381894025
A couple minutes
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>>381893798
Did I say the originals are better or worse? No I just said Tabata had a chance to make a better combat system and failed miserably.

Also Nier Automata defintively has better combat. Tell me why Noctis cannot be creative with his weapons he is able to warp to his hand and warp to as well. 2b is constantly throwing out her weapon because she knows it can come back to her and as a result creates a way more versatile toolkit to work with.

I cannot really take you seriously if you think Noctis handles a sword better than any of the characters in Nier Automata.
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>>381893471
God no, the combat is fucking great.
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>>381893604
Action games are differnt to Action RPGs, an good ARPG merged the action and RPG elements together and that's what XV does perfectly.
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>>381893798
>Then all the enemies would have been just slightly different versions of 1 thing

Mainly the combat would be great. Biggest problem with Nier: A is all the enemies are the same slow clunky robots. Only enemies worth a shit don't appear until close to the end. Really stupid decision.

XV - Terrible combat with good enemy variety.
NA - Great combat with terrible enemy variety.
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>>381894227
This post is even more pathetic than xv's combat
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>>381893779
Yet many weapons in XV have more to them than the keyblade does in KH, and XV is better animated than all KH games are.
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>>381893798
Please die Barry. I cannot stomach the idea that you may get a hooker pregnant one day and pass on your shitty thought process to him.

I can already see the teacher meetings "Actually no, my son in a genius and here is why, his mathematics are unlike anything that has been seen, I don't know why you would ever think Einstein has a better understanding of physics than my flesh and blood."
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>>381894069
>waah these clips of literlaly the most basic sword hits are somehow bad but I can't explain why and because you called me out i'm going to make some bullshit after the fact response just to pretend to be right about xv somehow being bad

Hey, I've played that game. The combat is GARBAGE. Animations don't mean shit.
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>>381860262
It's not as good as the golden age of FFs but I genuinely enjoyed it. My major gripes were the magic system, driving and that it kind of felt unfinished.
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>>381894501

>took 80 fucking hours to complete the game
>still only level 66

What were you doing? Fishing?
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>>381893835
>The essence of XV is Versus

And Versus itself still doesn't exist as anything more than a concept, hence why if Versus is to exist as a game now, it would be a reskin of XV, which is the game that exists.

>XV and every concept in Versus was executed better
None of those things were executed better and many of those were changed for the better.

>B-BUT THEY WERE TRYING
Who fucking cares? Nomura showed fake shit constantly and lied out his ass and failed to deliver, Tabata took over and made an actual good game out of the failed mess that was Versus.

>Because Nomura wouldn't ever let something as horrid as XV's Leviathan sequence slide by.
You mean Nomura couldn't even make his own leviathan thing to begin with hence why he had the CGI people make a fake CGI trailer pretending to be gameplay.

KH2FM on CM level 1 against end game bosses is the only KH with decent combat, so no.

>good scenarios
HOLY FUCK MY ACTUAL SIDES


>e holds himself to a high degree of quality standard and would strive to effectively capture the concept he laid out.
Is that why you just posted a webm of FAKE FUCKING CGI THAT IS LITERALLY NO GAMEPLAY?

>And you're reason isn't even right.
My reason is right, she was cut because it was specifically stated they found it hard to make her role make sense within the game, as in her character was so shitty she didn't even fit within the story which is why they created the superior Luna, who even despite having little screentime is still miles better than Stella.
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>>381894362
>Better animated

I am not fan of KH even when I was a little weeb but XV's animations are fucking horribly boring and just plain unresponsive. Only time i have seen people say the combat is good are people who cannot play action combat games well well and think that someone out there can play it better and therefore it must be good.
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I have some PSN cash to spare

Are the DLCs any good? Do they make the base game more bearable?
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>>381894762

That's from falling asleep while playing. Not even joking. Same thing happened with Fallout 4.
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>>381894882
No
Not really
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>>381894197
You are literally here trying to shill Versus acting as if Versus is somehow better, despite the fact that the basic sword animations and lance animations were the same with the same hit timing, speed and everything. While Tabata made it better by making it manual instead of auto like it was in Versus and giving us more control over our weapons with directional inputs.

And no Nier Automata does not, you can be as creative as you want with Noctis because you have 4 weapons on you at any time, you have aerial combat, directional inputs, warpstrikes for them, you can ways to string them together. You are literally talking out of your ass without having an actual clue what the fuck you're even trying to say. Seriuosly man just look at how 2B swings her sword in the air it looks like stuttery hits that don't even flow well, while Noctis flows seamlessly while swinging in the air mixed with his airsteps and warps/warpstrikes.
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>>381857414
everything is pointless. the point is that you should enjoy what you're doing. but even this is pointless.
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>>381894882

Don't do it. Spend that money on a better game. Not even trying to sound contrarian. You'd essentially be buying an unfinished game.
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>>381894328
This post is almost as pathetic as your life.
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>>381852635
Careful, you might wake up XV-kun
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>>381895029
Where the fuck did I mention versus Barry.

Also Nier Automata is still animated better. Just a fact of life and not a single sane person will EVER agree with you.

But I want to try you on this. Does XV have better combat animations than say DMC4?
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>>381894227

How is it great?

It's a disjointed mess with the worst magic system in FF history.
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>>381895162
Imagine being so autistic that you defend a game for 4 years straight on multiple gaming forums and search the archives for threads you might have missed, just in case
I am thankful that I am not you
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>>381894414
>oh man he's proving me wrong better tell him to die
fucking lol

You're literally that fucking triggered that XV ended up being better than Versus ever was going to be.

>>381894501
You're just one of the "hey i'll chime in too" who always says "durr it's a 6/10" shitposterswho has is only posting because I'm wrecking that fool and wrecked you in the past. The combat is great and animations mean a ton.
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>>381895162
Says XVkun who defends this game at the very LEAST 5 hours a day. You once shit posted for 17 hours straight defending XV.
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>>381895029
>And no Nier Automata does not

lmao you're fucking sad

as someone who likes both games you really are fucking pathetic

fucking original nier's dog shit combat and drakengard 3 has better combat than XV
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>>381894853
>XV's animations are fucking horribly boring and just plain unresponsive
No they are not, they are some of the best and most fluid, most well blended animations in any ARPG to date, the only people who think XV is bad are those who don't know how to play it and because they didn't bother learning the intricacies of the system they pretend there isn't any.
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>>381895360
>You're just one of the "hey i'll chime in too" who always says "durr it's a 6/10" shitposterswho has is only posting because I'm wrecking that fool and wrecked you in the past. The combat is great and animations mean a ton.

I actually like the game. It's average, but bad. I said the combat was garbage. Not the game, you over-sensitive fanboy faggot.
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>>381895360
>oh man he's proving me wrong better tell him to die
>he says as he's made threads before telling someone to kill themselves as he was getting proven wrong
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>>381895360
Im triggered that XV exists the way it does due to square knowing worthless, complacent fucks like you exist and can therefore rush it .
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>>381894882
The main game is already good, the DLC out right now is good because it has two great bosses at the end, the 2nd DLC is only coming out later today but from what we've seen it looks good too.

>>381895263
Maybe you should read the chain of posts you blind fuck. No it is not, XV has far better animations and much better blending than automata has.

Do you think because automata is faster that somehow means it's animated better? Protip: faster animation =/= better animation.
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>>381855375
Dark Souls
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>>381862424
They partnered up with nvidia 3 months ago, expect it to be out mid/late 2018 https://youtu.be/S28WgjGpyLs?t=104
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>2017
>people still argue with XV-kun
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>>381895363
Which is the worse fanbase: Automatafags or XIVfags?
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>>381895474
>intricacies

As far as stylish in this game goes its literally just holding a button and doing some of the directional inputs and throwing in a cheeky warp. Maybe a weapon switch or two but most weapons don't have very expansive combos.

I think the better word in place of intricacies is inconsistencies which this posts details.
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>>381895859
I just laugh at him now
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>>381873259
kek
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>>381895902
xv-kun obviously
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>>381895264
How isn't it great?

It's a fantastic game with an actual useful magic system.

>>381895291
Imagine being so autistic you are triggered that someone defended a game they were looking forward to and continued to do so after they liked it from having played it themselves, and so you screencap posts they make here and on other sites like a desperate autistic trying to somehow "discredit" them. You are only making yourself look worse here.

>>381895363
Is this supposed to be an argument?

>>381895393
Where did I say I didn't like nier automata? I like nierAs combat but that doesn't mean it's better than XVs.

>>381895483
Yet here you are once again trying to talk shit against me.

>>381895595
Refer to my paragraph above.
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>>381894882
Don't listen to >>381895664

There could be a wiki based on how much this guys recklessly defends this game.

If you do time stamp it. Play it. Jump into another thread and give your opinions on whether or not the criticisms detailed in this thread are valid or not.
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We need a new thread.

And what changes the patch brought
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>>381896020
>and so you screencap posts
Look at the filename, I didn't screencap it
>"discredit" them
Wait do you actually think anyone here takes you seriously
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>>381896020
I guess its an argument to showcase youre a rabid fanboy who is not worth listening to. Yeah sure. You cannot even deny such a sad act.
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>>381896020

slow clunky mess that relies on parries, back-attacks, and buddy skills while sometimes incorporating the terribly implemented magic nades
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>>381895932
Hey look this copy pasta again but put in an image, is this supposed to somehow mean something to me?


>Some actions only work from certain distances, even when in the air
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? How is that a negative?

>likewise, actions on a certain input (ex: forward+attack) change according to distance
How is this bad?

>If you want to do the forward rushing attack that only triggers when pressing forward+attack from long range, but you are at medium range, this is not possible.
So what you're telling me is that positioning matters?

>When inputting certain actions in the air, often an automatic warp towards the enemy comes out instead of the airstep you inputted
You do know that an airstep is a movement you do with the L stick while in the air right?

>Which enemy is attacked is dependent on where the camera is looking
First of all you can manually lock on with R1 and R3 and change targets with the R stick, you easily change targets between attacks.

>Because of the button holding type attack triggering,
First of all you never have to hold, you can tap and you are better off doing so because you get manual finishers.


Wrong, you can tell exactly what actions are happening because combos are easily flowing as an opener, mid combo and finisher flow and it's easy to tell which part is which of the combo.


How is this a negative? You have different regular attacks based on distance because it's blending either a long step to sword swing depending on distance, or a quick slash depending on distance, why is this a problem? Second of all ED did the same exact thing with how different opening variants there were when starting an attack.

Holding O is the sprint button, locking on and sprinting means you are sprinting towards an enemy you are locked on to, and tapping O is the attack command which is why you attack from the same button you sprint with
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>>381896020
>I like nierAs combat but that doesn't mean it's better than XV

You'd have to be delusion to think XV's broken combat is anywhere near as polished as Platinum's. Their fucking horrible Ninja Turtles game had better combat than XV.
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>>381896020
>discredit

No one takes validity in whatever you say anyways. You understand that right?
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>>381896269
>What the fuck does this have to do with anything? How is that a negative?
Its inconsistent you fucking troglodyte. Can you imagine a Devil May Cry game where the combat only plays out depending how far away you are from the enemy. We would never see a combo video, which is why maybe two of three of them even exist for XV.

I just read the rest and realized you just say "How is this bad" to really bad features of an action combat game. I cannot really rationalize with you if you think any of these points are not valid.
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>>381896269
M-M-MANUAL FINISHERS.

Please stop, they're not even good finishers.
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>>381894771
No it wouldn't? Versus will always be the original. Versus was literally the source material for XV and it was established first. You can't take way that merit, no matter how hard you try. If Versus came out today it would follow it's basic concept laid out for itself during development. It wouldn't take jack shit from XV and it would be what it was supposed to be originally. XV will always be the re-imagining of Versus because Versus established itself first. Versus was also tightly knit with FNC which XV reskinned as it's own thing.

>None of those things were executed better and many of those were changed for the better.
You don't need to lie to yourself.
>Switchable Party Members from the get-go
>The relationship and conflict established between Stella and Noctis in Versus is much more interesting and tragic than Luna and Noctis-even XV utilized that conflict in the Omen trailer
>Double Jumping is better than airstepping, which is just holding O and the left stick back
>Umbra actually showing his transformation and becoming a character
>Cor being a part of party
>Noctis and co actually , actively participating in the Insomnia Invasion

>Tabata took over and made an actual good game out of the failed mess that was Versus.
KEK

>You mean Nomura couldn't even make his own leviathan thing to begin with hence why he had the CGI people make a fake CGI trailer pretending to be gameplay.
It was still early in development and he was showing people a concept, or taste of the scale and sequences they could expect from XV. That's literally what everyone does at E3.

>as in her character was shitty
That's literally not what they meant, but twist the information to your narrative as much as you want.
>superior Luna, who even despite having little screentime is still miles better than Stella.
Lmao, people unironically believe this.
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>>381896170
You've posted your screencaps in multiple threads always in some desperate attempt to try and discredit something I've said, it's pathetic.

>>381896236
So you fail to actually make an argument then resort to the old "your just fanboy" shitpost? Oh man.

>>381896237
It doesn't rely on parries, there is nothing wrong with back attacks and it doesn't rely on them either, buddy skills are great and it doesn't rely on them either, the magic does a fuckton and is useful but again it doesn't rely on them.

>>381896332
You have to be delusional to think XV is somehow broken, if XV is broken then so is automata, flaws in XVs battle system like abusable items is something in automata too. At this point you can't even make an actual argument and are just saying any random bullshit that comes to your mind so you can sling it against XV.

>>381896336
And yet the screencaps are posted frequently why?
First of all, different weapons are supposed to act different from each other, so what the fuck is this inconsistent bullshit you're spouting? Second of all what the fuck does different animations happening depending on distance have to do with being "inconsistent" when they do the same state of hit that lets you string into the next part of the combo all the same regardless?

You can't even explain why those things are bad and are just saying any random shit you can think of.

>>381896681
Yes they are good finishers.
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>>381896269
>If you want to do the forward rushing attack that only triggers when pressing forward+attack from long range, but you are at medium range, this is not possible. .
>"So what you're telling me is that positioning matters?"

"Hey why can I not do an aerial launch attack in Bayonetta without an enemy in front of me, I could create some expansive movesets if it let me"

"HURR DURR, POSITIONING AND TACTICS"

God, jump off a bridge Barry.
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>>381896834
>And yet the screencaps are posted frequently why?

You understand its to document you right. Ive never quite seen anything like you on 4chan before.

I even explained this to my Normie girlfriend and she laughs whenever she hears me talking with a giggle about how you pop up in threads. You're one big joke Barry.
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>>381896834
>It doesn't rely on parries

yeah must be why the prompt pops up every 2 seconds

weird


>inb4 it doesn't!!!!
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>>381896834
>You
I just saved that image from a previous thread not too long ago
>discredit
No one likes you or takes your bullshit seriously
You are a well known joke among jrpg related threads, and this essay of autism just further proves it
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Aussies have Episode Prompto already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9pkvjYTkD8
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>>381897453
Holy shit, the snowmobile looks really janky
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>>381896685
>Versus will always be the original.
Concept, while XV is the actual game, and so if Versus is to now exist as a game to the public it would be a reskin of XV. You don't have to be in denial about this, if they wanted to make Versus into a game now they would literally have to reskin what the current XV is in order to make that.

>>Switchable Party Members from the get-go
First of all there was no manual weapons in versus, it was all auto, and what we see them doing is even more basic than anything they are shown doing in the final game even as AI or compared to Gladio and Promptos DLC episodes.
There was no "relationship" with Noctis and Stella beyond them being two people who just met and who were to fight because alliances, and that itself was only a concept from 2008, TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT, which was DELETED by 2011, as not even that CGI of them facing down was even going to be used even if the game was still Versus. In the end the only canon Versus Stella is the one as shown in the 2011 trailer and nothing more.

Double jumping is not better than airsteps, as you move lstick in left, up, back or right directions while simply being in the air

Umbra turning into a human was A: something we only learned after XV had been released, so you can't say he somehow would have had any more character than some of the fodder in kingsglaive did.

Cor is the only actual cool thing, but even that can be understood because he's way above their age group and the focus was on their friendship, while he isn't even part of their friend group but Noctis's dads friendgroup

>Noctis and co actually , actively participating in the Insomnia Invasion
Again in 2011 all it was shown was him fighting regular grunt Niflheim troops like you fight the entire game anyway, and a Behemoth in an empty linear street, and other than that the aranea fight would have been part of the intro instead of later.

XV is a good game, deal with it. Luna is better than Stella too, deal with that.
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>>381897453
You'd think xv-kun would be playing it right now instead of crying like a child here
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>>381896864
So your bringing up something irrelevant to the discussion because you have no argument?

>>381897015
No it's to try and shitpost against me because Nomura fanboys are that fucking insecure.

>>381897073
You mean those parry prompts that you can completely ignore?
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>>381897453

christ that snowmobile looks like shit
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Prompto dlc not looking too good so far
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>>381897703
>You mean those parry prompts that you can completely ignore?

God forbid I go back to weightless attack animations.
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>>381897572
Nope, world isn't such a pretty place
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>>381897169
So you are spreading the shitposting.

And you can't deal with getting proven wrong so you and the other nomura fanboys that are constantly blown the fuck out take it personally every time.
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>>381897453
that's one shitty 3rd person shooter
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wow ep Prompto looks much better than ep Gladio
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>>381897453
Combat looks better than I thought it would, much improved than Prompto's TPS from that old Versus trailer too.
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>>381897453
>dat snowmobile
fuck that's actually kinda cool
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>>381897941
>spreading the shitposting
That was your shitpost that was screencapped, so I guess I am technically
>deal with getting proven wrong
You have never proven anyone wrong, just shown how truly pathetic you are time and time again
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>>381898142
So you yourself are shitposting while pretending you aren't shitposting.

And here you are being yet more proof of Nomura fags being BTFO yet failing to accept it time and time again.
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>>381897453
PLUMPTO
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>>381898248
he's kind of cute
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>>381898204
>So you yourself are shitposting while pretending you aren't shitposting.
I guess you admit your own posts are shitposts then
>yet more proof
I never mentioned nomura in any of my posts
But please explain to me how I'm the other 139 people in this thread, barry
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What kind of mental damage do you have to defend such a sub-par game so desperately without being paid for it?
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>>381897453
Lol the dude is just running around shooting a behemoth and randomly rolling and pausing.

Cannot wait for XV kun to tell me how it is the most expansive shooter combat ever dated.
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>>381898904
and that weird camera
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