Guild Wars 2

I enjoyed my time with it. Certainly more than when playing WoW.

They're gonna announce the next expansion soon so I'm waiting for that

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It's a fun game with an actual cool looking playable beast race. The combat is good and leveling up is easy, I'm not sure why the game gets so much hate. I just wish it was playable offline so that the immersion isn't broken all the time. I'd totally play a single player action RPG set in Guild Wars

>>381852306
wtf how do you get that hair

>>381852306
looks fucking retarded

>>381852436
I have a charr right now, it might be on creation but IIRC its one of those styles exclusive to the black lion style ticket or whatever it is called.

>>381852601
turn your monitor on first, bitch

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i stopped playing after tybalt died in the story
i couldnt go on anymore. i had grown really attached to him

>>381851403
Game always had a lot of potential, devs could never get their priorities straight. So many broken promises, late deliveries, and wasted dev hours.

>>381852306
>actual cool looking playable beast race
>worgens with lion faces
nah

>>381851403
There still isn't much to do at end-game and elite specializations made builds even more limited than before.

It's the best MMO on the market, but that's not saying much when the market is going through one of the biggest droughts in its history.

>>381853539

>wow invented werewolves

k

>>381851403
Timegated horizontal progression grind2cosmetic travesty with diminishing returns on farming shit that's almost worthless no good dungeons zerker meta fucking trash.
t. played off and on about 1K hrs since release.

>>381853539
>>381853729
Charr were a lot better in their GW1 iteration. Far more bestial looking and you made no mistake about them being animalistic. Now they're just autistic furry bait and any vestige of their savagery is gone.

>>381851403
>best MMO out there right now IMO
You should have made at least tried your shill thread less obvious.
SJWars 2 is pure trash and you should kill yourself for supporting the developers.

>>381853639
This is something i've noticed alot. I see no reason not to use zerker on my warrior, and i rarely, if ever see some base classes. IDK when the last time i saw a base mesmer or a base guardian
>>381853973
least im not supporting blizz

No depth to it and the community is full of casuals

>>381854061
Like you said, there's literally no reason not to. Elite specializations are insanely more powerful than base classes, even though the developers stated their intention was to make them a sidegrade to base classes.

>>381851403
I only like playing with friends in WvW, fractals, and map events. Story is boring, I literally don't give a shit about any of the characters and the condition meta needs to be fixed

>multiplayer revolves around following the zerg train to get tasks done.
>playing with people requires no actual interaction to work together so no bounds are formed
>corpse running to renter a fight is an important skill to have
>all classes can basically do the same thing so your role in the world doesn't feel unique, just homogeneous.
>WvWvW sucks when you don't have dedicated pvp tanks and healers to push the line forward. Enjoy getting killed in 2 seconds by various aoe abilities

Quit after a week of launch, no idea if they fixed any of these issues. All I can say is that I'm glad they tried something different, but it sucked

>>381854061
you shouldnt be supporting either you cuck

>>381851403
>best MMO
even if that's a low bar, GW2 manages to fail to clear it. It's shit. Bad combat, bad story, bad gear progression, grindy as all fuck, pay to win, 'living world' is a bad joke.

Please die in a fire, shill.

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>>381853960
>any vestige of their savagery is gone.

nope

/r/ing the frogbro posts

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>>381855367

>>381855064
>Play Ranger
>Avoid the Zerg
>Pick off loners

Best WvW experience ever really.

>>381855367
Wait, when did we get straight backed Charr again?

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I enjoyed leveling and even the first half of the personal story (it went to shit after treehearne joins) but at max level the games flaws become too much.

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Today I will remind them

>>381855367
>wearing the GW1 ranger armor
Fuck off with this. The charr in GW1 were savage cat bear beast things. The charr in GW2 are furry bait, nothing more, nothing less.

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>world bosses are just mindless zerg some big dumbass monster for 3 minutes till it dies
>dungeons are literally running past as much trash as possible to get to the boss then stacking
I could live with these two but this is what really killed the game for me
>gemshop
>literally all new content is just added to the gemshop so you do nothing in the game but farm gold to buy gems to buy shit from the shop

I really wanted to like the game, there were many things I do like about it, but cash shops kill games.

>>381855619
Izzy's also in charge of balancing, right?

>>381851403
It kill off /mmo/ at /vg/. I can burn in hell.

>>381855925
This is the worst, the most inexcusable travesty they pulled.
>"But it pays for the servers"
The servers are still shit, and the actual cost of running servers is so small that on their financial reports it's under "misc expenses"

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>>381855676
nope

>>381856371
They're taking in more profit than ever, have an even bigger team and yet they're somehow managing to deliver lower quality content, and less of it.

>>381855064
You forget about shitty servers lag so much that groups run right through each other.

>>381856570
Yeah, it's absolutely sickening.

I played it for the beta weekends before the original release, and was already having regrets of preordering it. I just put so much time into Guild Wars 1, that I felt I had to press on. After about a month or so, I had tried many of the classes, found one that was almost acceptable, took it to max level, and still wasn't enjoying the game. Suffered on until fractals were released, did a couple of them, and I haven't logged into the game since.

I wanted it to be good, I really did. It just wasn't.

>>381856570
That's what amazes me about GW2. For GW1, ANet had a staff of a couple dozen people, and they turned out one of the most unique coorpg's that has ever existed, with three expansions in the following two years, plus some extra content outside of those expacs.
ANet currently has a couple hundred employees and can barely churn out a bunch of cold garbage slower than a fucking snail's pace.
What the undying fuck.

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>>381857041
I'm sure NCSoft saw how successful GW 1 was and was meddling with Anet while GW 2 was made. Many of the dev left, replace them with people that are shit, and you got GW 2. Oh and there is the part when the game made a profit, NCsoft direct the profit to Wild Star instead of GW 2 and the people at neo-anet shit out crappy tier content from people that work for peanuts.

>>381857251
>Oh hey I work on Guild Wars 2 and I never played Guild Wars 1
Every fucking time, yet people wonder why this game turned out so garbage

>>381857251
I genuinely feel bad for Izzy. He was a fucking meme back in GW1 days, sure, but he still had a position worth some respect.
Now he's about the only notable person that stuck around at ANet, and he has to run that freakshow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35BPhT-KI1E

Can you count how many lies are in this video?

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>>381859691
This trailer. This fucking trailer. It is singlehandedly responsible for destroying any ability I had to feel hype for a game. I swallowed every line of that advertising campaign.

Then I realised that all of it was a lie. Not a single thing they said was anything close to the product they delivered. I have never been hyped for a video game again, and I probably never will be.

I played this game like a year and a half ago, I liked it but its probably because I am a gigantic casual.

One thing that pisses me off to this day though is that I cant find a particular music of the Norn area anywhere on youtube and the only thing I can use to describe it is that it had some kind of flute/wind instrument in it

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>"We want to make an MMO where you don't have to grind!"
>literally everything in the game requires a months-long grind

>"Making armor is a very complex task. It takes us over nine months to make a single armor set, that's why we don't put any in the game between expansions."
>gem store has a new armor set every two weeks

Guild Wars was a mistake.

>>381853960
>any vestige of their savagery is gone.

They were a lot better before the total makeover kit was implemented and added all the retarded DBZ and kawaii faces and hairstyles.

>>381856570
>>381857041

This. The absolute lack of content is a travesty. I can forgive HoT being small since NCsoft didn't give them the greenlight to even think about making an expension until less than a year before it released. But ever since then ANet keeps braggign about it's 400-strong dev team and how they started making the next expansion immediately after HoT was done, and the leaks revealed that we're still only going to get four shitty maps roughly the size of Queensdale. What the fuck do those trannies do all fucking day over there?

> Post yfw when you know you'll never play GW 1 again

>>381860741

Aren't the servers still up?

>>381851403
I regretted spending 60 dollars on this shit once the devs decided to the fuck over the users more with HoT.

>>381855954
I remember when he used to get BTFO regularly on his Wiki talk page when he'd shit out another lousy GW1 balance patch.

>>381860685
Don't forget:
>50 burgerbux for Heart of Thorns, new players got the base game, no discount for old players
>Next expansion is going to do exactly the same thing, new players get Heart of Thorns and base game, old players pay full price

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>>381860896
They fuck over their user a bunch of times
>they didn't bother adding the annouement of GW 2 BETA in the GW 1 login or Guild Guru. They use Facebook and Reddit instead
>at Chinese release, they add in handholding crap and fuck up the skill progression, assuming the playerbase are babbies
>spend a half month advertising the game for 10 dollars, then reveal it f2p at e3 and they have to pay 50 dollars for the expansion

>>381860685
>I can forgive HoT being small
They outright lie about the product too. They didn't deliever all the stuff the expansion offer and then proceed to make another one, while shoving more cash shop items into the game

Its really good but i feel like i keep running out of things to do. Every living world update for me is a mad dash to complete the new map exploration and then get as many achievements as i can before i get bored

I've remade my character over 10 times because I couldn't decide my main class and then just got bored. I think lvl 40 was my highest level.

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>>381860741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJSC_mteIg&list=WL&index=2&t=29s

>>381851403
Only 65, but thoughts:
>Dynamic world events are great, it's my main source of entertainment. More games should do it. It does devolve into zergfests at times.
>Hearts are cool for the first few hours, but lost motivation to level up because there was no story.
>Personal story was interesting for the first few times, until Saladman comes in.
>Great environments, but poor performance. Also, human character models look like it was ripped from Second Life.
>Good combat, although I'm not too big on the loss of the trinity. Also not a fan of having only 5 core skills per weapon.
>OST so far is mostly forgettable
>Dungeons are alright
>Very active LGBTBBQ community, does massive pride marches. Depending on who you ask, it's either a pro or con.

There. FFXIV has me absolutely hooked though, but I might come back to it if sub runs out and don't feel like resubbing.

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>>381860189
>It takes us over nine months to make a single armor set

Did they actually say that?

>>381861825
Their rigging is so fucked up it's a struggle for them to make new armor sets. A lot of the people responsible for such things are gone, it's the reason that Dungeons are dead content. The scripts are so spaghetti and archaic that messing with them can break a lot of stuff.

>>381861760
Is this from the first Guild Wars?

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>>381862047
Sure was. Does this look better or worse than GW2's environments?

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>>381861760
>someone saved my screenshot

>>381862174
Surprisingly similar to Guild Wars 2, but the terrain gives it away. I thought because it was Cantha that it was part of that removed section of DR that turned into a sinkhole

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Dropped it a few months after HoT. Still login from time to time but there's just so little to do and everything feels shallow and butchered compared to Gw1.
They tried turning things around a few times but it never really landed. I personally didn't enjoy raiding and since they focused a lot of attention to it they just lost me. WvW drying up didn't help neither.
Working for the guild hall was fun, but once we got that down there just weren't any goals left. Couldn't care less about grinding for particle effects.
Gw1 had much more interesting PvE and PvP gameplay. FoW and UW we're much more fun instead of the linear raids.Urgoz and the deep felt much more awesome to explore and beat.

The worst offence Gw2 has made is that they don't reward skillfull play. When you went inside elite areas or dungeons solo or with a very small crew, you'd get a much higher chance at getting good loot. When you beat dungeons in Gw2 with just 2 players, you get the same amount of loot while going slow as fuck.

>>381862047
Yes.

>>381862289
You did a good job with it. How'd you make it so crisp?

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>>381851403
>mfw I preordered that shit expecting an improved guild wars 1

I'm pretty much the same, stopped playing seriously after finishing the main story quests (final fight was absolute shit), having missable story content (living world) turned me off even more and dont even get me started on muh progressive diversive characters.

Now I just ignore that shit and roam WvW from time to time.

You guys know they made human gods the bad guy after they bully a crippled mary sye, right?

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>>381852306
>I just wish it was playable offline so that the immersion isn't broken all the time.
Congratulations, you are part of the MMO problem. Good job killing a genre.

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>>381862594
1920x1080, antialiasing, 16x AF, nothing special really. The one you posted was edited with a bit of soft bloom though.

>>381862853
>cripple mary sue

Excuse me, can you explain to me how that isn't contradictory?

>>381862853
>implying Kormir was never the bad guy

>>381862853
>You guys know they made human gods the bad guy
Not surprising since the staff are transfreaks who need a bullet to the head.

>>381863145
>m-muh salads
it's like the most cancerous fucks from /d/ got hired to make a game

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>>381851403
Stop reminding me I spent $90 on this heap of trash kept alive by waifufags and furfags.

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>>381862967
Don't blame me, blame the genre. I just like most players are just looking for a good experience and MMOs, while large in scope that are perfect for a sense of adventure, come baggaged with its caveats typical of the genre mostly for the sake of profits. That's just the nature of the genre.

tfw can't go back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkcyT4bBrlw&list=PLB7EDE0664B82E3C7&index=15

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>>381862967
I kinda understand where he is coming from though. When you are out exploring and you come across a charr dressed like he's just coming from a pride parade with particle effects coming out of his ass with every step he takes it tends to take you out of it.
They could have prevented this by creating sensible armor and weapon skins that actually fit within the world but they went overboard with it. And all the classy Gw1 armor was just dropped.

>>381863061
>tfw I can pinpoint the exact location where you took it
I've played Gw for way too long.

>>381862853

I stopped paying attention to the game a while ago, so if they actually took a shit on the pantheon like that then I'm going to have an aneurysm.

GW2 is 100% ass. I swear the MMO industry got infested with the most cancerous "game devs" and that's why the churned out so many stinkers recently. FPSes may be very derivative, but they have a baseline level of quality.

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>>381864076

>>381864363
>make something that might look good
>hide it in PARTICLE EFFECTS
every fucking time

you now realize that gw1 utopia was a thing and they scrapped it for the stillborn fetus of gw2

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I liked GW1 more. GW2 ruined a lot, but the game overall isn't that bad, just about nothing to do with the first though outside of lore.

>I hate what they did with mesmers.
>The Order of Whispers is a god damn joke now, between idiots as high ranking members as well as being a KNOWN ORGANIZATION, instead of borderline illuminati secret information collectors.
>Shitty writing, where as GW1 campaigns at least had more mediocre than bad, and some good.
>No god damn Guild vs Guild, the whole point of the first game.
>First Season Living World was beyond fucking garbage, muh Scarlet.
>Salad Jesus
>Skill system is laughable compared to the first, despite the second having 10 skills available on the hotbar and the first having 8.

But despite all that, I still log on every now and then and fuck around, enjoy some PvE and the occasional PvP arena. WvW leaves a lot to be desired as it seems the borderlands are all abandoned for whatever the central map was. Expansion content was pretty half decent too, but haven't raided.

I AM STILL ANGRY ABOUT GW2.

Do people still even play GW2? Last I heard the expansion killed it off but I did see it for $10 at my local Walmart.

FUCK YOU NCSOFT YOU KILLED GUILD WARS

>>381867526
I don't like GW2 as much as the next guy but we don't need to delude ourselves, game is quite populated.

>>381853905

>The game isn't very good but I put 1000 hours into it

Assuming you aren't just lying in an attempt to give your assertions some sense of validity, I don't think you understand how utterly pathetic your post makes you sound.

>>381867719
Wouldn't somebody with 1000 hours in it have a lot of weight behind that opinion?

>>381867719
MMOs are the biggest video games timesinks anon, you can enjoy the game for 1k hours and then the dev can ruin it with some shitty patch/expansion. It's a changing experience not linear single player.

>>381853406
This.

>Whole world full of karma merchants, renown heart event merchants, dynamic event merchants, dungeon merchants, city merchants, and raid merchants
>Most sell the same shit
>Most sell 1-2 blue rarity low level items
>Most sell the same stuff they've been selling since launch with no update
>Skins and items meant for raids sold on the gemstore because they would've been left behind to be forgotten otherwise instead of being added into the raid loot tables later on
>Skins and items that would've made great in-game rewards sold on the gemstore
>An entire season of the living world missing due to the content being temporary with world bosses, dynamic meta events, badass normal bosses, skins and gizmos, story content, zones like the Labyrinthine Cliffs, festivals and events, etc
>Still no build saving
>It took them 2 years after HoT's launch to deliver on legendary armor despite advertising it with HoT
>They still haven't been able to deliver on a full set of legendary weapons after HoT launched, as advertised
>Still no GvG in a game called Guild Wars 2, no new guild missions in like 4 years
>Entire maps scrapped
>Devs made legendary armor skin which took them 1 year, scrapped because they didn't like, and took another year to start over and release something they liked
>1+1 = 2 god damn years of life
>No new dungeons, multi path instances
>Instead get narrow and fast fractals that feel displaced and random
>Scrapped holiday event content
>Neo-ArenaNet don't even know their own lore like "Temple of Kormir in Orr" wtf?
>Release 2v2 map in sPvP, doesn't even have it's own 2v2 queue
>Balance like shit on a bi-annual basis, can't see past Izzy's fat ass head (Salad nerf = power nerf across the entire board)
It's such a shit show. They squandered the gold mine, it's sickening to see how slow and dumb the new ArenaNet is. They know it too because their own staff play games like SWTOR and FFXIV instead of their own filth.

>>381852306
The combat is not good, it's really terrible. PVE is a joke in this game.

>>381851403
I played it only on release. Reinstalled because you people keep shilling it.
I have 500 hours played, which I thought was impressive, since I barely remember playing it.
Still boring empty shit. Would rather play fucking legion.

>>381862853
Just one and Balthazar was always described as an asshole so it's not really shocking.

>>381851403
I tried really hard to like this game but god its just so boring.

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>>381851403
>Pointless Achievement Simulator: The Game

The issue here is not the achievements.
The issue here is that they are so fixated in overblowing the game with boring, shit gimmicks to make these achievements happen and to distance themselves from other games, none of the concepts they make are EVER finished, polished or even remotedly fun.
Even gliding just becomes tedious once it's blended into the giant mush-paste of karma trains and hopping from waypoint to waypoint just to get a random boss killed that will be zerg rushed anyways so it's not like you even had to BE there to impact on the outcome.

Okay release, shit development after.
Funnily enough the only half-decent content from the entirety of the Living World is the only content they removed permanently because "da world needs to feel alive", before they realize
>oh hey this is a retarded idea
and backpeddaled the shit out of it, like they do with everything they start. Which is why nothing ever gets done, and why you will
NEVER
EVER
get anything in the game that is worth shit that you couldn't just spend 10 bucks to get on the gemstore anyways, thus entirely nullfiying the point of playing the game to begin with.

>>381868546
>tfw you remember when they were smaller and had focused development, put content out at a fast pace and it all made sense
It's like a clusterfuck of "Ooh that would be cool! Let's do that now" over and over. I wonder how long until they get bored of Raids and move on to the next shiny thing that they want to try.

>>381868703

That is exactly the best way to describe it.
It's essentially ADHD developing.

>Temporary Living World content
>Instanced Dungeons
>Queen's Pavilion
>Fractals
>Raids
>Personal Story
>Branching Personality UI
>Fucking Stronghold pvp the fuck was that

All of this started and abandoned halfway through for the next flavor of the month.

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>>381851826
>>381852306
/gw2g/ has arrived... What's the matter? Your shitty autism pedo & fury general still getting bombed by bots?

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why must asuras be trapped in gw2?

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>>381851403
Was pretty alright on release then devs jumped ship, listened to vocal minority who wanted cancer changes, cancer changes were implemented, completely devoid of player motivations, lore is awful, the games aged like hot garbage, PvP is endgame but completely unsatisfying, novelty of omg epic 1000 player fights wore off years ago, and the PvE isn't even worth mentioning. Amazed people still play it. Also there's a >furry race

>make guild wars game
>forget to put in guilds warring against each other

OOPS.

I always thought of the PvE as a funny little side-distraction for when your PvP-group isn't online, so GW2 fell flat on its face for me. World versus World battles were pretty fun, but not really strategic and the only competitive mode was fucking "capture the hill", a mode that was hated in GW1.

>>381869386
>forget to put in guilds warring against each other
lol that's nothing.

People even set up their own little "guild wars" by using discord to organize guild vs guild pvp in the wvwvw area. Devs shut it down and banned people.

>>381851403
I still dont understand why would anyone do anything in this game exept leveling and playing through the story. Theres absolutely no real reason to do anything exept pvp with its ranking system

>>381869597
haha holy shit, what is wrong with them?

>>381869694
>you will play MY game like I want
basically

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>>381857251

>when your gender/diversity politics become more important than actual gameplay and content

>>381869694
>>381869861
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/wuv/Some-ANET-interfered-with-our-GvG
The classic "stop violating my game mode"!

>>381869927
>three years ago
They encourage it now. I've seen Devs watching contests in WvW.

>>381857041
After most of the team members that worked on GW1/ early GW2 left it really left a gaping hole in quality of content.

They probably started hiring on the basis of gender/race instead of actual ability to do their job or skillset so their devs are either slow as fuck or incompetent but can't be fired due to them assuming it for being based on race/gender.

This, combined with the rather cut-corner methodology and pay shops of recent NCSoft publishing probably have led to what we see today where content has been lacking for 4 years.

>>381870290
>they encourage it now
>when all decent guilds already quit the abandoned game mode

>>381869140

That thing has been going non-stop for over a month now.

If you were suddenly put in charge of the development team and could do whatever you want, how you would fix GW2?
>Get rid of Izzy
>Fire all of the trannies
>Get rid of McHamburger and start fixing the lore
>Work on a total skill revamp update
>Weapons now have more than 5 skills and you can choose which ones you want to use
>Might have to rework Elementalist to accomodate these weapon skill changes
>Elite skills completely reworked, designed to be keystone skills for builds again
>Remove dedicated healing slot, elite slot and weapon slots, you can use as many utility skills or weapon skills as you like
>Cut down particle effects, hire people who can actually optimize this massive shit fest

>>381870540
Make fractals fun and the focused end game
Raids are ass, wvw and pvp are sidemodes, not the main game

>>381870540
>rework retarded skill-bar
>implement old PvP mode, most importantly GvG and Hall of Heroes
>bring back holy trinity, since the experiment failed

I just want old GW1 PvP in a new engine.

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>>381870540
>hire people who can actually optimize this massive shit fest
>mfw I learned that GW2 is basically running on a patched up GW1 engine
I thought they gave up on GW1 so they could start over and go from there but holy shit I was pretty sad to learn they were pulling a Bethesda.
There was nothing wrong with Guild Wars 1's engine for GW1 but it struggles with what they ask of it in 2.

>>381870870
I don't think you understand how game engines work.

>>381870935
Y-you too

>>381870870

There's nothing wrong with that. Source engine is an extremely modified Quake engine after all. The real problem is the game being an absolute CPU hog.

>>381862967
He probably hates how everyone and their mom has legendary weapons with special effects now, which I can totally agree with. Anet desperately needs to include an option to turn off all those shitty particle effects.

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>>381853960

>>381871352
>filename
Kek'd

Are there any actually good pay once, not p2w mmos that currently exist? I'm so against the monthly subscription based games that I just can't play the mmo genre

>>381869140
>play on Saturdays
>want to post about which markets to corner for the week
>no one can effectively have a discussion because [HOPE] and [FUN] posters decided to gift that day to the resident legitimately retarded furfag
>he saves hundreds of photos of like 2 characters to all post on one day, instead of just albuming that shit on imgur

I wish I could say that's the worst I've ever seen, but virtually every mmo general has people who monitor those threads 24/7. I wish gaming wasn't full of so many losers.

>>381871417
GW2 is the only one that doesn't go overboard with p2w crap while being a good game.

>>381871725
That's the problem
And fuck people that try to justify subscription based mmos because of server costs, they're fucking retards. Servers are not expensive and subscription fees are literally just a way for companies to make more money

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>>381870540
>Complete coding overhaul on the scale of FFXIV, hunting down the old coders to document shit at gunpoint if need be
>Move the offices away from Seattle to somewhere less poz'd and way cheaper
>Revamp of the skill system entirely, bring back enchantments and curses among other things
>Make it so that all the retarded skins and looks are still available but can only be seen by other players on Halloween and days like the fag pride shit
>The option of capes, clipping be damned
>Revamp of the guild system. New guild halls available, dedicated ladders as well as bringing back heroes ascent
>New Zaishen Island style area with challenges for both solo and groups
>Restore some of the old lore, especially revolving around the human gods
>Have separate racial storyline quests in addition to the main quest with new ones each expansion
>have way more race and order specific responses to major dialogue and lore, doubly so if it directly affects the players race/class/order combo
>Create a questline to restore the Hall of Monuments and have it act as a new base for the players campaign guild
>Playable Tengu. Don't give a fuck whether people on /v/ get butthurt or not

They promised PVP support on launch what a lie.

Played the betas and the combat felt good enough to buy the game. Then they proceeded to ignore the pvp instant max level side of the game for months - not even putting in custom servers.

Still got my moneys worth in hours, but it was probably the shortest time I played an MMO.

>>381860004
"Over The Shiverpeaks"?

>>381867719
I played it a lot with friends. Despite its flaws it's still fun to hang out and shoot the shit while you wait for world boss spawns and such. Maybe you wouldn't understand such a concept seeing as how you lack the social graces to criticize my post without resorting to wb insult. Nothing I said was wrong or hyperbole. Sorry I called your precious game trash. :)

>>381871814
It would be justified if each month had it's share of new content to go with the subscription but nope. Look at WoW releasing a raid wing every 6-8 months with next to nothing inbetween. What's the reason to pay for an expansion, then pay a subscription for a full year only to pay for the next expansion a year later? It's like funding development and then paying for the product.

Is there even a single game released that's like the original Guild Wars? I can't even think of something similar to Hall of Heroes in the entire genre or the ridiculous skill variety for almost infinite builds. Just what the fuck? Guild Wars mighta not had the world's best PVE, but it was a goddamn miracle in terms of content.

Just about the biggest video game disappointment of my life. I have the fuck huge collectors edition in my attic I can't bring myself to throw out since it was like 170 bucks. I thought It was gonna be like GW1 with better graphics, turns out it was just a shit game

Great game, best part though is no subscription so you don't feel forced to play it when you aren't in the mood.

>>381872190
Thing is, it wouldn't be half as popular if it was GW1 with better graphics.

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>The only other MMO that had something equivalent to the hundreds of skills for build variety was The Secret World
>It had literally zero tactile feedback so even though you could innovate and be unique, it felt like shit
>They got rid of it

Why is unique depth dying in MMOs for fucking stagnant everybody play the same template shit

Its nice that I can log on whenever and check out my old character without worrying about a sub

>>381855619
>american tech company has a weirdo working for them

Whew, lad. You may be up to something.

Heres their problem
>caters to GW1 veterans
>screw over vets later because casuals dont know lore and we need to be inclusive
>cater to casuals
>screw over casuals by introducing raids, nerfing pvp, karma, etc because now we want the end game audience
>cater to end gamers
>continually screw over raiders by turbo nerfing any skill that some hyper min max pro likes and can perform better than 95% of players
>casuals mad
>raiders mad
>wvw mad
>pvp mad
>vets mad

but MUH MAJORY AND KASMEER GAY ANITA APPROVED COUPLE!!!!

>>381872289
>Thing is, it wouldn't be half as popular if it was GW1 with better graphics.
That's correct. It would be 10 times as popular, WoW would have died with WoD and JewStone would never have happened.

>>381872642
>WoW would have died with WoD
that still happened

>>381872190
I always wanted to try GW1. Is it dead?

>>381851403
Without out prior playing GW1, I rather liked it.

I thought it did a lot right for the MMO as a concept. Most MMO punish the multiplayer aspect by ruining xp, having penalty for trying to level with friends that may be lower, etc. Or they try to force it by making you need people to do anything.

GW2 made the world feel a bit alive by having active quests everywhere that spring up and having everyone sort of in one big zone party. It was a really good way to do things.

Classes were pretty neat, but a bit too limited. Tossing out the holy trinity of classes was good in idea, but its like the dungeons were made to need it anyway so my sorcerer just ended up healing anyway. And the level cap was too high relative to what you gained along the way. Wish more MMO would go with a low number of levels but just make each level its own true adventure DnD style, where each one counts and has significance and content.

PvP was a bit of a clusterfuck, but some tweaks and it could have worked, Zones and people were neat. Dungeons were bugged as fuck when I started though.

Economy killed it for me in the end though. Was too damn impossible to grind anything that dropped decent gear or money and even if you paid in the return and inflation was so retarded it was impossible when I played.

tl;dr Great ideas, but needed a lot of polish. Had a lot of fun for a few months.

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>literally who tranny makes more inspired music than Jemery Soule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x41Pes8Z2so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1IQ_fZjto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEggQjJPAAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC1xopc4TXs

How did that happen?

>>381873195
Soule lost his mojo some time around when he did EOTN and Skyrim.

>>381851403
the structured pvp was fun but it didn't keep me playing for too long

exploring the areas was bretty good but dungeons and everything else was a poopfest

>>381872970
Most of this was addressed a long time ago.
What hooked me was the same stuff though, free flowing exploration and leveling, not waiting for stuff to respawn just so you can get a chance at tagging it first for example.

I wish they made gathering nodes more competitive though with only a handful of people being able to gather it before it despawns, I find it more interesting when crafting requires 40 of that expensive material that's hard to find rather than two stacks of 250 wood going for 50c a piece.

>>381873195
>That
>Better than Jeremy Soule

Nice try, Lena. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoamY4yUU0c&list=PL4E1110AD1C2481F2&index=8

>>381873603
Most stuff he did for GW2 wasn't as great though, with a few exceptions like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qs5JmLAElg

>>381873802
Yeah, I'll give you that. His newer compositions kind of suck, and I don't really understand the reason why. Maybe he just lost that spark he had in earlier years.

>>381873528
I played not long after release. Never had the xpac either.

I wasn't early enough to be overpowered, but was early enough to experience bugs.

Is the economy not a wrecked pile of shit now?

If that is the case I my reinstall. I really liked the game its just once I hit 80 there was fuck all point to play that character anymore at the time as I couldn't do shit with them. Damn that must have been years ago thinking about it. Did love leveling in it, and it is one of the few MMO I could ever say that about and really leveling is when so much of the best stuff happens in a game.

>>381873942
Depends what you mean by "the economy".
It's much easier to make money now than it was at release for sure, the average player reaches level 80 with a hundred gold, you get 2g for from daily achievements, about 10-15g a day for running fractals, decent money from PvP chests as well plus transmutation stones and such.

>>381874287
I just remember it be near impossible to make gold. The only way being to get in a group can roam a high end area just mindlessly killing everything and trying not to die. And you could do this daily for days on end and still not be able to afford even one piece by auction.

And the only other way was to hope for a drop, but would probably have the wrong stats as did some of the sets at the time if I remember. This was a few years ago now so I dunno.

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>>381874435
It's much better now, plus you can jump in fractals with subpar gear and start making progress there on the side while you're working on better gear.
Ignore the old dungeons you know, they're still the same and barely anyone runs them anymore.

Does this game have housing?

>>381874730
Sounds good. Pity though some of those old sets looked badass. Part of why I liked the game so much aside from actually getting the multiplayer part right was the armor was really nice.

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its a good free to play game. its kinda spoiled me on trying out other mmo's because no pve player competition, account wallet & bank

>>381875641
You can still run them if you want the skins, but you can also acquire dungeon tokens from PvP and WvW by completing reward tracks.

>>381851403
I'd probably play if oceanic servers

>>381876025
This doesn't work, dunno why they are pushing for it.

ffxiv players are autistic as fuck and do this all over the place, the game still sells like shit and has a small playerbase.

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>>381851403
>the amazing lore from the first game is getting murdered every update
>looking forward to the Gods to see what there up to
>"haha they just left never to return"
i will ALWAYS forever be angry

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>>381875530
It has guild halls which you can decorate with crafted furniture and other props.

>>381876025
They're right though, look at every GW2 thread on /v/, full of pastas and opinions from release which you can tell instantly with how much the game has changed since.

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>>381876496
So no then, this is my main want in an mmo. This is why I'm not playing Tera right now too.

Been playing bdo, not a huge fan of it but at least it has decent housing.

>>381876620
Why do people want player housing in MMO's so bad for? Just play Animal Crossing or some other junk life sim.

>>381876717
because it's comfy as fuck when the grind of dungeons and shit gets old

>>381876717
For me, it was the fact I could use it as a goddamn base for GVG. I built a sense of familiarity with it. It had some sense of value when we fought in home territory. Now its just fucking nothing.

>>381876459
>>"haha they just left never to return"

It's even worse than that, Anon.

>"haha balthazar's depowered and now he's a saturday morning cartoon villain, fuck Adelbern and fuck humans :^)"

>>381851403
>GW2
>good
Yeah, well seems like YO is shit.

>>381852306
Fuck that pic is cringe

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>>381852306
Not a proper current day Charr, this is.

>>381879409
How does anyone unironically use that stupid haircut and paint it with neon colours? I've yet to see a charr that actually looks good with it.

>>381876430
>game still sells like shit
>small playerbase
Anon, I...

>>381861319
I don't care about this game, but that response is so amateurish that it hurts. The last thing you do is flip your paying customers off especially when it is a fucking MMORPG.

>>381872315

Warframe also comes a bit close for build variety, but it's not the same and the grinding kind of overshadows a lot of the fun.

>>381879578
It's true, never even gone over 1 million subs with more regions than wow runs in. That's fucking pathetic anon.

>>381882018
peaked at like 630k subs, no wonder they put so much effort into the cash shop

they always muddy the water, confusing registered players with subs but you'll never find an official response saying anything above 630k

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>>381855676
>Not making your charr like the ones in GW1
The fucking promo art pretty much implies that, fuck the NPCs and people who whale on cosmetics they wear for a week.

>>381851403
too bad the engine is from 2005 so you hover around 20 fps in wvw/raids/world bosses

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GW2 is the typical MMO- ambitious, decent looking ideas and high potential, ruined by greed and shitty execution.

Character customization and "no grind" are supposed to be its strong points, but customization is ruined by annoying shit like shitty, non-diverse, clipping skins, and no grind is a joke since grind is the only thing you do in the game.

>>381883151
>spending 900000000 hours reaching max level is grind
>spending 9000000000 hours doing a circling zerg rush train for digisheleks to turn into the gear that gives you your looks and stats isn't

GW2's logic will never not-baffle me.

>>381883751
Ehy do MMOs have levels when endgame is the only thing that matters?

>>381867075
>Loading screen with an actual loading bar
>Touted as a feature superior to GW2
Wait, really?

>>381867982
>No new dungeons, multi path instances
>Instead get narrow and fast fractals that feel displaced and random
Dungeons are dead, but now we have fractals and raids.

>>381861801
the vanilla game has a pretty shitty ost but HoT, Living story season 2 and season 3 has had some great tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-fee1rP48I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1IQ_fZjto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtvnP91PDfQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAvo9QwJCpc
getting rid of jeremy soule was a good move

>raid soundtracks are great
>you'll never hear them because it's so hard to get into raids now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbPU5mXJ4a4

Gw2's name is nothing like gw1. Which makes the name stupid. However it's still more original and better than the other big mmorpgs.

>>381864363
Yep, this is the part where I stopped giving a damn for the story. I just play for getting rare equipment now.

>>381873195
HoT's music was generic as fuck.

>>381887698
Why? Just find some other time sink. Go to the gym, meet a lady, make lady stains on your bed with her, experience a truly living world.

>>381860189
>gem store has a new armor set every two weeks
are you daft? they meant actual gear not costumes.

>>381861065
it's gonna cost 20$ tho

>>381888419
Are you trolling me?

>>381868315
this
Balth don't give af

>>381888646
Not him, but you are retarded for confusing costumes with armor sets. Armor sets are weight specific and have 6~ parts. Costumes fit all classes and have 1 part.
Not defending ANet, actually shitting on them because I hated costumes when I still played this trash game

>>381851403
the other "best" mmo. if WoW suddenly imploded I would probably play guild wars 2 desu

>>381853960
this

>trinity for high endgame content: dps, tank, healer
>raids with some of the most complex mechanics in a mmo ever
>combat mode to make the combat action based like Tera
>NO gear threadmill. After the initial creation of the ascended gear (was a rebalance more than anything) they didnt implement any better gear, but horizontal growing for your character.
>high level maps full as fuck
>Even old maps like Orr have constant train farming and groups doing events
>tons of world bosses, map meta events that needs coordination between 150 players always full of people
>end game level content like raids and fractals
>variety of pvp modes: regular pvp, conquest, 2vs2, wvwvw
>jumping puzzles
>shit tons of personal goals like achievements, cosmetics, competitive mini games, HoT adventures
>variety of guild missions ranging from combat, puzzles, platforming
>cash shop doesnt influence pvp at all
>guild halls
>some of the best level design not in just mmos but videogames overall, with complex maps with tons of verticality
>well applied flying mechanics
>classes have really unique mechanics and feel really different
>borderline crazy amount of content and unblockables

Most complains are outdated or plain lies. The game is probably the best MMO out there (not a big achievement tho) and it doesnt even have a sub fee.

The only real complain people have is gw2 not being gw1 HD.

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>>381871171
What a retarded statement. The exact reason why the game is a CPU hog is that it is an old engine that cannot utilize modern threaded CPUs properly. Source has this exact same problem in CS:GO.

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>>381855676
It's a shame they got rid of charr hide armor

>>381890115
The overall concept is utter dog shit. You can't fix shit

>>381869353
you sound like you have last played the game in early 2013.
trust me nowadays its much better than it used to be. the game starting to be much better after 2014 patches. somehow HoT fucked lots of things, but they restored to some ok level

still i hate the game, dont play it, waste of time

>>381890115
>trinity for high endgame content: dps, tank, healer
if this wasn't the case it'd be even worse
and it's not necessairly the case, as a lot of classes can do 2/3 roles by themselves.

>raids with some of the most complex mechanics in a mmo ever
what the fuck are you smoking nigger
I did fractals so many times and every patch there was a new way to skip encounters and break shit, the only mechanics this game has is "move boss to X" or "use item on boss" or "run with item"


>NO gear threadmill. After the initial creation of the ascended gear (was a rebalance more than anything) they didnt implement any better gear, but horizontal growing for your character.
boring, I had ascended items from grinding fractals a month into game's release

>high level maps full as fuck
of what, mobs?
sure as fuck ain't people
all maps besides dungeon entrances always felt empty as shit to me


>Even old maps like Orr have constant train farming and groups doing events
not the case until patch with hunt quests


>tons of world bosses, map meta events that needs coordination between 150 players always full of people
bullshit
no coordination is requires and bosses are braindead easy predictable shit that doesn't drop any good loot

>end game level content like raids and fractals
that game had no raids for the longest fucking time, before the expansion all you had was fractals. with like 5 different stages and only 1 boss.
go fuck yourself you delusional faggot

the only complaint I have about gw2 is that it gets boring.
there wasn't enough to do when I played it and when I came back I simply didn't want to buy an expansion to do anything interesting.

I'd elaborate on more points but I'm hitting character limit.

>>381890304
Bullshit, I just read the threads and most of the complains were fixed.

Such as no roles in battles, no endgame, world bosses requiring no coordination other than just hitting it hard (try that with worm or tequatl see how it goes), zerker meta being fixed, all classes covering the same roles were fixed.

If you are comparing it with single player games, sure, it might feel lacking, but as a mmo? fuck no. The game is so far ahead of its peers its almost a joke going back to other mmos. I feel like playing a board game when playing other mmos. As in the terrain and level design is just plain and the combat being a shitty wackamole. And they even feel the need to charge monthly for that shit!

The pros out weights the cons greatly.

>>381851403
Played it for a while when it was released, three things killed it for me though
>Gear doesn't matter
>Movement is floaty
>Quests force you into this annoying semi-cutscene
The jumping puzzles were really fun though

>armour takes to make 9 months
>armour sets are fucking ugly
>everything has to have millions of particle effects
It feels like design team is full of 12 year olds designing for children who wants everything to be flashy.

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Sylvari warrior main here. Currently working my way through spirit Vale with my guild. We just got started and we're growing fast. I just came back after a long hiatus and I'm having tonnes of fun. Only issue I still have with this game is the fucking ascended crafting and why some of the most desirable stat alignment armours are such a pain to get and are account bound so you can't sell even the exotic versions of them. Aka vipers/minstrels.

>>381890820
>raids
>hurrddurr in fractuls i did
RAIDS. RAIDS NIGGER.

>gear threadmill
What a shit!
>no gear threadmill
What a shit!

>all maps besides dungeon entrances always felt empty as shit to me
Who the fuck does dungeons in 2017? All your opinions really feel outdated. All high level maps are full as fuck.

>Even old maps like Orr have constant train farming and groups doing events
>not the case until patch with hunt quests
FARMING TRAIN YOU INBRED FUCKER. Hunt quests are shit and only take a few minutes. I couldnt be talking about hunt quests if I said train farming. Again, outdated complain.

>tons of world bosses, map meta events that needs coordination between 150 players always full of people
bullshit
no coordination is requires and bosses are braindead easy predictable shit that doesn't drop any good loot
Try any hot map without coordination or Triple Wurm/tequatl. Again, outdated complain.

>>381851403
I enjoyed playing it but I just didn't like their approach to new content. fractals, edge of the mists, the story stuff all just rubbed me the wrong way.

People wanted more maps after HoT so now devs are shitting out boring maps with nothing to do in them with fucking hearts.

>>381890115
>trinity for high endgame content: dps, tank, healer
raids introduced some diversity but in fractals/dungs only dps matters
>combat mode to make the combat action based like Tera
and?
>Even old maps like Orr have constant train farming and groups doing events
try to break their "train", which is probably the lamest possible way of playing this game, and they will rape you with whisper messages "fag we are training here fuck off, dont do events bitch"
>variety of pvp modes: regular pvp, conquest, 2vs2, wvwvw
arent people constantly moaning about competetive gametypes being underdeveloped? there were some major patches recently, but still...
>variety of guild missions ranging from combat, puzzles, platforming
they are ok, fun aspect of being in guild
>guild halls
if you arent a guild master's personal cock sucker or a girl you wont ever be able to decorate anything, waste of time
>some of the best level design not in just mmos but videogames overall, with complex maps with tons of verticality
only applies to HoT maps, they are beatiful. maps from core or even some recnt addons arent that pretty
>classes have really unique mechanics and feel really different
HAHAHA, no, dont fall for this one. first guild wars is way ahead in this aspect. in guild wars 2 basically any class can have any role, so there is no diversity, maybe apart from some exclusive class mechanics

>>381891316
>so there is no diversity
>game panders to SJWs

Really activates my clones' almonds

why the fuck not just play gw1? its literally better

>>381891293
but these arent you boring regular hearts from boring core Tyria...
these are...
REPEATABLE!!!

>>381891293
>not farming berries for easy as fuck HoT trinkets on those maps
>not loving those maps

>>381891149
>shilling this hard for a dead game

>>381891316
How to make a healer out of my Thief then?

>>381891675
They nerfed berries though.

>>381891743
>dead
>all maps are full
>literally third mmo making more money on the market
>having hard time entering maps because they are full as fuck
>having to do queue for wvw at any time

You sure showed me. I feel the game is more alive than when I started playing 5 years ago

>>381851403
Hand down the worst MMO I ever played and I played them all including SWtOR.

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>>381891868
>literally third mmo making more money on the market
What?

>>381890820
>I did fractals so many times and every patch there was a new way to skip encounters and break shit, the only mechanics this game has is "move boss to X" or "use item on boss" or "run with item"
He said raids.

>>381891758
well ok, that's good point, but if you make your gear healing power oriented you may not need one. (but maybe with using some sigils or runes?)

ok i agree there is some diversity, but not to crazy extent, because anet said they dont really want to make people wait for specific class with specific skills in order to clear instances. and in some areas game is designed the way you dont really need anything but only DPS, DPS, DPS

>>381891790
I only do the north part of the map and I get 50 berries per alt each day in like 5 minutes

>Devs are retards that likes shit particule effects
>Devs are retards that does not want to implement vulkan in the shit fest that is their game engine

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>>381891293
They're nice to explore.
I actually love the shitty treasure hunt achievement we get in each new map.

>>381892138
Blade and Soul is doing very well.

>>381892416
Considering their playerbase it's better for them to keep working on mac client.

>>381892138
>other sales
really makes you think

that's why we never see guild wars 3
or maybe it will be a MOBA
AND IT WILL PLAY LIKE GUILD WARS 1
GW1 HAD MOBA-LIKE GAMETYPES
GW1 COULD BE A SUCCESSFUL MOBA
HYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPE

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>>381892418
>textures on this volcano

>>381892138
>Wild* no longer on charts
and they delayed B%S western publish for it

>>381879556
you just need to keep it subdued and realistic, like >>381852306

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>>381893001

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>>381893132
>taimi starts talking

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>>381879556

>>381893187
>anything related to the story and Destiny's Rejects
ftfy

>Humans are getting raped by centaur cocks and they are still using wooden trébuchets
>Asura can time travel, use magical stone to power up golems and have lasers
>Charrs have steam tanks, helicopters and a space program

>>381893338
well it isnt perfect, but much better than what core campaign has to offer. at least there are things going on, that are some unpredictable events, some rather fun moments like killing lord beetlestone. core was just lackluster borefest

>New arc's villain is Balthazar, who got tired of the elder dragons' bullshit

>>381882018
It's not WoW-tier, sure. But you're acting like it's on it's deathbed. It's certainly doing leagues better than GW2.

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rate my charr (ranger)

>>381893585
Being a human is suffering in GW2.
>Your own gods just said fuck you and left
>Centaurs are constantly plowing your continent
>You have no unique tech and anything interesting about your culture was retconned
>All of Ascalon, including old NPCs, all got foefire'd and generally treated like shit in the story
>Oh wait, your gods are back, but they're saturday morning cartoon villains

Arenanet is fucking retarded, there is no hope. Just burn down the company. Not that there's much else left to burn.

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>>381857251
DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>>381894550
They got more devs than any time in history of the company. Most of the veteran devs left though

>>381893585
Humans have the best infantry, and a shit ton of spies and mages.

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>>381857251
>i work on guild wars 2
>i never played guild wars 1

>>381876620
You'd love Wildstar.
You, and the other 6 players.

>>381889006
It's about designing them. In that sense, there is no difference between gear and costumes, you dolt.

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>>381852306
>Using a joke hairstyle

>>381894148
Literal garbage.

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>>381899386

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I am just mad they ruined the meta in spvp with their HoT bullshit. Pure p2w.

>Balthazar is evil now
Just piss on GW1 some more, if you want.
Why not add Kormir's temple to Orr while you're at it?

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I think I'm playing it wrong or something. I last played in like 2014 but made a new character yesterday after seeing some webms on here

>do starting quest
>leads to some other quests that are usually just kill a certain amount of an enemy
>that quest leads to another quest that's usually just kill a certain amount of an enemy
>level 12 now
>still just doing that
>mfw

>>381903065
Hearts aren't any different to other quests in MMOs. You can just choose if you want to stomp on weeds instead of killing ten abloobloos, or you can do a bit of both.

>>381903065
It doesn't get any better. Leveling is a fucking chore in this game. Your only other option would be to to zerg-farm eotm. And then once you're high level you will have to do the same shit all over again. Farm zergs in the "endgame" maps for years and years to come until you have enough money to buy something shiny.

>>381903065
>>381903540
The heart quests were added last-minute because the WoWbabby testing group kept complaining that there weren't any "Kill X fauna" quests.

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>>381903706
Fucking casuals ruin everything again.

>>381903706
so what exactly was their idea on how to level before that? literally just farm events all day?

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>>381903806
And now they're obligatory for map completion :^)

>>381904005
Events give the most exp. So i'm guessing original idea was map exploration + events.

>lgbt devs
>just get fed lesbian shit in the story all the time
>destiny edge replaced by a bunch of clowns
>forced to make fucking bimbo looking whores because there is no option for fuckboy despite the publisher being korean
>pvp is confined to a literally who special snowflake island in the middle of nowhere
>can't attack players in the overworld
>can't even duel them
>no gotta go to a fucking battleground where it's just giant blobs of faggots smashing into giant blobs of more faggots

what a useless piece of shit, black desert is much better, at least you have shit to do there

>>381876717
If its anything like Wildstar's housing then it becomes a game on its own. It's also something that has some semblance of permanence when you are trading gear out every patch.

Good character customization and good housing are excellent additions to an MMO and help with its lifespan, but when the MMO focuses solely on it (like Korean shitfests) then its just nice paint on a pile of shit.

>>381857251
>'m sure NCSoft saw how successful GW 1 was and was meddling with Anet while GW 2 was made. Many of the dev left, replace them with people that are shit, and you got GW 2

that's literally what happend bro, I saw an interview a couple of years ago where they admitted gw2 used to be another expansion for gw1 but ncsoft wanted them to shit out a sequel that would not compete with their other asian focused mmos and that's why they had to axe cantha content from divinity's reach and make up that bullshit excuse of the emperor closing off the kingdom, fucking koreans go die already

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ywn help a giant qt destroy the Charr.

>>381904247
PvP and PvE has been split since GW1. You have only yourself to blame if you expected overworld PvP.

>>381904671

PVE was split between PVE too in gw1 so that was okay, every map was a self contained area and it made sense, what's the fucking point of a near seamless open world structure with players going around if you can't interact with them at all? I bet nobody speaks to anyone and they just run around franctically doing quests

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>>381904470
>Could have had another glorious GW1 expansion
>This is what we got instead

Imagine how much content GW1 could have had by now. All of those skills, new armour, new places to go, new loot, new classes to play, new heroes... God, I'd cut out my own right lung for a chance to put things right.

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>>381904005
Events, crafting, exploration, pvp, wvw, gathering.
Everything gives exp, and if you run out of "quests" or want to see another region, then do so because all regions your level and under give the same % of exp no matter your level.

>>381904857
People gather up naturally for events.

>>381852306
>I'm not sure why the game gets so much hate
Because /v/irgins don't realize that GW1 isn't as good as they remember.

>>381869140
>autism pedo & fury general
That's /xivg/

>>381890212

I'll never forgive the beast fuckers and their sympathizers.

After I lost my peaceful home to Abbadon dick sucking Charr I had to walk through mountains and swamps just to find refuge. We lost a great many people on that journey. Including our beloved Prince Rurik.

God dammit I hate GW2.

>>381892418

Is this alpha game play before anything is textured?

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>>381904857
people don't run around doing quests, due to there not really being quests to do. Most players just afk in the city. I've spent a while just running around each zone and no one speaks to each other either
it's all closed off. I'm sure people do speak to each other, but it's all in guild chats or discord servers. Megaservers were a terrible idea. You can't get to know people on your server because you'll probably never see them again. There's never that feeling of 'oh shit I know that guy' when you run into someone you met in the starting zone at level 10 again at level 60
shits dead senpai

>>381851403
no housing ====>into the trash

>>381907246
But it has housing.

>>381907302
stop spreading lies
personal instances are not housing

i do want to pick this game up but im worried its a dead game do people still play it?

>>381907567
Just play it. It's F2P.

However, don't invest any money. If you wanna invest money just buy GW1. It's simply the better product

dont really care for this game, but is there a new exp coming out anytime soon?

>>381907567
people still play it but it's by no means alive. They have a system called megaservers, which means your home server doesn't matter for anything apart from WvW, and you'll be matched with every server on NA if you're on NA, or every server on EU if you picked an EU server. You'd think this would be a good idea, but in reality it just makes everything more closed off since why would you bother interacting with people when you'll never see them again?

>>381907567
Yes to both. But you most likely won't notice that there's not a lot of people as all of the maps are populated most of the time because of megaservers.

>>381907817
it cost money to buy the game even though i know its free to play.
im just wondering if there are people who sitll play the game from my understanding of it that there is alot of group content out there and i dont want ot sit on my hands doing nothing while i wait.

>>381851403
Pretty bad when I played it.

I got it at launch. People only wanted Warriors or Guardians in dungeons, so thats all anyone played. Also most classes don't have a resource, so it was a spam fest. Bosses felt like mostly randomly getting downed and spamming your ability to revive yourself.

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>>381907940
>it cost money to buy the game even though i know its free to play.

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>>381851403
Took more than 3 years to finally get off it's ass and stop creating content only to drop it shortly after.

It's far too late though, the bad follow up after launch and living story 1 completely killed it's momentum. It'll be hard to convince anyone to start playing again even though the game is the best it's ever been right now.

>>381908657
I think the biggest problem is that devs kept experimenting all the time because they didn't have concrete vision how's the game supposed to look in the future.

>>381907940
It's really free though, only the expansion has to be purchased to play it.

>>381908124
expansion is all but mandatory
they tried to market the elite specs as being 'just another option' and that they wouldn't outpace the current specs, but it's literally in the name. They're pretty much direct upgrades for most of the classes, and if you want to be taken seriously in most group content you'll be expected to run them

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Did you go?

>>381911404
no, because who gives a fuck?
but really this sort of thing doesn't bother me, since they gave me a time and date to completely avoid it

>>381910719
Maybe, but there's a good 80+ hours worth of content before you get there the first time, plus old dungeons and early fractals.