Zelda

>>381845490
botw for non-contrarians

>>381845490
Link's Awakening

i unironically really liked twilight princess, on a scale from 1-10, how homosexual am i?

>>381845774
pitifully easy, casualized game but the story and art design were 10/10. I still can't decide if I liked it, and I got 100% everything.

I honestly wouldn't have minded if we got a string of games that went along the lines of Twilight Princess, and Breath of the Wild was allowed to be it's own thing.
Just because BotW used a minimal approach to story didn't give it an excuse to make that story boring.

Midna did strange things to me when I was 15.

>>381845921
that's the reason i like it, best story, and the best dungeons. probably why botw ended up being kind of a let down for me. 0 story, 0 dungeons.

>>381845774
It depends if you like it for Midna or not.

>>381846307
she's the best companion out of them all, but not the reason why i think it's a good game

I wish there was more Young Link x Human Midna /ss/

>>381845490

Because it has the most fun dungeons.

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>trying to play tp and ss intros after botw.

>>381845490
>What's the best Zelda game

2D: Link to the Past
3D: Breath of the Wild

>>381845921
>pitifully easy

I think the main problem with TP wasnt exactly how easy villains are to beat, it's the fact that they give you hearts to replenish your health way too much. Hearts can be found aplenty at all times, making the game too easy.

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>>381845490
Because TP is just the best. Simple as that. Once the WW manchildren mature a bit they will realize that it too.

I think it's the best Zelda game in the post N64, pre BoTW slog.

I wish true midna wasn't a one off

>>381847189
Every waifu gets to appear in only one game, it is Zelda law.

I've never been blown away by any Zelda game, but I do like TP the best. Haven't played BOTW but I despise open world so it probably won't change.

>>381846603
>realizing the most refreshing aspect of BoTW is it not holding your hand like a child for five years

Feels bad that nowadays everything has to have forced tutorials and introductions so that literal mouthbreathers can pick it up and feel comfortable 5 seconds in before they lose interest.

>>381847575
>but I despise open world

How can anyone hate open world games? Why?

You can literally go anywhere you want. You like being dictated where to go and what to do next?

>>381845490
The Oracle games are the best top down Zelda games. Seasons is probably the better game overall, even though I personally like Ages more.

As far as the 3d games go Majora's Mask was the most creative and interesting, but Ocarina of Time is the most well rounded.
I haven't gotten around to playing BotW yet though (waiting for the Switch to go down in price).

Twilight Princess had good art and great original temples (the mansion, city in the sky), but was held back by trying to copy OoT too much and having simplistic dungeon design for the most part. It's a real tragedy that Miyamoto stopped what became Link's Crossbow training from being a fully fledged sequel to TP.

Wind Waker was too linear and rushed. The Triforce quest is annoying and would have been better served by letting you explore more of sunken Hyrule for at least a few pieces. The world has a lot of character, but it's mostly empty.

Skyward Sword had fun controls (some people will disagree), but was restrictive to the point of not feeling like a Zelda game. The world was small, Demise ruins Ganondorf, the repeated demise fights are a slog, and Tentalus could have been one of the coolest fights in the series but they went with pixar.

>>381847589

I'm glad Nintendo/Aonuma listened to SS complaints. Seriously, SS was the most insulting game I have ever played. It literally treats you like a retarded 5 year old with this shit like "MASTER, YOU'RE ALMOST OUT OF HEARTS. PLEASE REPLENISH YOUR HEALTH" or "MASTER, YOU'RE WIIMOTE IS ALMOST OUT OF BATTERY. PLEASE REPLACE THE BATTERY."

Fuck you, Fi. Worst companion ever. I'm glad they got rid of the companion shit with BotW.

>>381848000
More than likely he hates the emptiness of them and how usually open world games feel like there's nothing to do but walk around.

BoTW is pretty good about having content everywhere but for people who aren't a fan of wide empty spaces its a tough sell.

>>381848129
>(waiting for the Switch to go down in price).

You're going to be waiting a long time dude.. unless you're okay waiting 4-5 years for a price drop.

>>381848182
But fi was in botw. :3c

>>381848524
That barely counts as an appearance.

>>381845921
>>381846880
Try Hero Mode on Twilight Princess HD. No heart drops and double damage from enemies. I actually got some game overs.

>>381845490
artists still think the "just draw a ledge under him to avoid having to redraw the head angle or stick with the original proportion you had in mind" trick isn't transparent as fuck.

>>381848129
>Miyamoto stopped what became Link's Crossbow training from being a fully fledged sequel to TP

Source?

>>381848524

I havent gotten that far.. interesting. Didnt know that.

>>381849696

I will try that on my second run for sure. The original mode is too easy because of heart drops.;

>>381850585
You only see her in the final memory, once you collect all the others.

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>tfw twili midna porn never took off and imp got all the smut

>>381852025
look at this PLEB

>>381852646
As a grown man and ten years later, Twili Midna is terribly underrated, but Midna's personality is undersold in like 68% of fanart anyway so WHATEVER

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>>381852025
>>381852646
the frustration is real don't even joke like that

>>381847589
>botw doesn't hold your hand
>despite the 50 times it open the menu saying HEY HERE IS HOW TO ATTACK
>OH MAN I WOULDNT JUST RUSH IN THERE, TRY STEALTH
>DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN SNEAK ATTACK
>MAKE SURE TO PICK UP THIS APPLE

the entire plateau should be skipable
you're mental if you think botw doesn't hold your hand, its a fucking nintendo game for god's sake, its made for children

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>>381853871
get in line retard

this entire board wants to fuck him

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>>381846603
>tfw read that as "trap" and "/ss/"
This shitty site has fucked me up real bad.

>>381853454
That's not handholding, that's just having prompts. Handholding is hardcore railing that means you can't get anywhere without following X Y Z objective.

You can leave the Plateau once you get the tablet puzzle skills.

>>381845490
Majora's Mask, in every way but one.

That one would be soundtrack, and here my friend, we agree.

>>381853969
Well that's not very polite of you.

I'd say twilight princess or majoras mask are the best with dungeons and story focus.

BOTW or WW if you're looking for a gameplay focus.

Minish cap or classic zelda if you want lots of secrets and open world exploration

>>381849696
Honestly, when I played Hero Mode in TPHD, I found that it just reinforces how player-biased the game is to begin with.

I did a 3-heart run, and there were a few points during my playthrough where I was low on hearts in a dungeon with no healing items. This situation should've made me feel on-edge and engaged. But it didn't, because I knew I could just kill myself and respawn at the start of the dungeon with full hearts and no penalty whenever I felt like it. Not to mention that dungeon suicide was almost always more time-efficient than leaving to get more potions/fairies.

There just isn't enough of a penalty for death in the base game, and Hero Mode can't change that no matter how hard the enemies hit.

>>381856534
I'm not arguing with you here, just curious. Whats do you think would be a better system for game over? Should you restart at the beginning of the game? What should be the penalty for dying if there's no checkpoints?

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it was too linear and too easy

you don't have any freedom, the sidequests all reward you with more help which is pointless because the game's already too easy and some enemies don't even attack you...

the game feels more like "The Legend of Zelda: The ride" you just go from set-piece to to set-piece and things happen around you., but your actions are a player don't really impact any of it.

>>381857239

I got so sleepy thinking about Twilight Princess that I couldn't even type out that post.

>>381856936
Not him, but I'd like them to reintroduce what majoras mask did. Give the player a time limit for everything they do, make death result in loss of time to the point they may have to redo the entire dungeon again because they kept fucking up.

Where in the fuck do you get the rom for this game? Doesn't seem to be available

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>>381845490
Is rather fuck the right then the left honestly. Adult midna is just so unappealing
Whose with me
http://www.strawpoll.me/13287259

>>381857239
What 3D Zelda ISN'T linear and easy? Most of them are.

>>381858990

3D Zeldas are somehwhat linear, but generally allow SOME freedom.

Twilight Princess is 0% freedom 100% linearity.

>>381860375
How is it any less free than OoT?

>>381847589
Quite honestly the only good part of the game

>>381848000
You can do open without falling for the openworld meme.
Metroidvanias, Bloodborne and the Souls games, Prey, Thief, and Deus Ex all do this to a certain degree.
Hell, the open-ended levels of Dishonored and Thief are ideal.
Strictly linear progression, but loads of freedom in each level hub.

aside from the wolf parts TP is debateably the best 3D zelda game

>>381848000
Not him, but open world feels super aimless, unpolished and unfocused. There's no "push" to make you want to go anywhere or do anything. And god, do I hate traveling long stretches of uninteresting land just to from one barely interesting thing to another.

I'd rather play something linear, that's engaging and polished.

>>381861579
Not that dude, but that was definitely part of the problem in TP it feels like an incomplete, unambitious game, the overworld honestly is pretty barebones and empty, like 64 era bare bones the horse battles mechanics are good, but you only ever engage in combat the same 3 bulblin over and over

>>381863994
The graphic style absolutely kills the experience for me, i personally love the concept art, but lets be realistic, pretty much all the characters look poly starved, faced aside, the enemies are not even half as expressive as they where in wind waker for example, and the texture are just too noise and brown and sameish. The environments all look distinctly lifeless ,the bloom effect looks tacky and overdone