>He fell for the Intel meme >He doesn't own a Ryzen

My 4690k still works fine, no thanks.

Not falling for AMD trash again after the Athlon II.

I'm still using a 4790.
Next CPU will probably be AMD if Intel doesn't stop shitting the bed.

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>>381830131
lol

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>>381831873
hmmm

>>381831873
>>381832062
AMD bitches BTFO LMAO!!!!

im gonna swooce right in and ask if this is a good budget build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Qd7h

The Ryzen has a notably lower clockspeed but can process more threads. Wouldn't that be less advantageous is general? Does the 7700k really run that hot and inefficiently that it eliminates this advantages?

>>381832197
you have nothing left over from another PC you can steal?

Would be worth it to drop the SSD and get a 4 core CPU if possible

Why the hell did the 1060 and RAM get so expensive?

Will they go back down in price anytime soon?

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>>381833526

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>>381835410
cryptocurrency mining

probably not

Reminder ryzen has better minimum 1% and 0.1% frames, which is what matters

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>>381835824
Welp. Guess I'll just stick with the 1050ti I bought.

I originally wanted a 6gb 1060, but fuck paying 400+ burgerbux for something worth half that price.

>>381830131
Give me three (3) good reasons to upgrade from a 4690k

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don't mind me, just a $500 8-core current-gen AMD chip losing to a $60 2-core last-gen Intel chip!

>>381836669
it's not worth the upgrade. it wasn't worth the upgrade even when prices were better

wait for the next generation of cards and buy the *70 for nvidia or the *90 for amd

Let's just get all of the shitposting out of the way

>Intel is old-hat fireplace salesmen
>Nvidia peddles spyware and sabotages game performance
>Ryzen underperformed and rebrands suck
>your company is owned by Jews
>your company is owned by Jews too retard

Is it even still worth it to upgrade CPUs yet, i'm still using my 2500k and it's still working for modern games.

>>381836850
thats pretty sad. I wonder if the threadripper will be any different

>>381837645
Depends on what settings you want to play at in modern titles. BF1 and GTA5 for me is constantly at 100% cpu usage on very high to ultra settings.

>>381836850
It's also overclocked (the $500 chip)

4100mhz from 3600

>>381836054
Thats why ive been considering getting a 1600. I dont care if the game has higher avgs, I only care about not getting below 60fps.

Though im still on the fence on whether to just wait for intels 6 core response to ryzen.

>"worst" game benchmarks are still way over 60

whoa
so in other words if if i actually play video games don't star at the afterburner overlay i can save some money.

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Hello?

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I cant wait to play games with you anon!

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12960897
no thanks im good

Thinking of upgrading my 2011 bought toaster. Leaning towards 1600. Is it a good budget cpu that can run anything at 60fp 1080p? Not sure what gpu to get.

>>381837645
You must not play very many CPU-intensive games or record gameplay

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>>381830131
>trying to talk about GPUs on a board full of doing it for free Nvidia shills and kids who know nothing about hardware

>>381835824
>>381836669
wait until autumn, the crypto bubble may burst by that time and people will all be selling off their rigs

>>381838784
Better than talking about them on /g/, which is full of doing it for free AMD shills.

>>381838640
I'm rocking a 1500x and a 1080ti and can run everything at 1080p 60fps and many games at 4k

>>381836850
noooooooooooo delete this

>>381838891
>muh metered kilowatts
fuck off eurocucks

>>381830131
I bought Intel because Skylake came out 2 years ago and AMD was in the shithouse then. You'd be stupid to buy Intel nowadays but I'm fine with what I have, no need to upgrade for the next few years.

>>381836850
no one will notice that. The only person who is dumb enough to play Fallout 4 is Todd.

>>381839000
>a 1080ti
Yeah I can't afford one of those.

>>381839218
save up or stop complaining

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>>381831873
>>381832062
>>381836850
hmmmmmmmmm

>>381838897
>the far more hardware-savvy made for technology and computers board likes something
>a board full of shitposters and underage likes something else
Hmm, wonder which is better

I'm new to computers, can I upgrade my core thingy without needing other components?

>>381839467
unforntunately no :/ sorry

>>381839408
You don't go to /g/ much, and I can tell. GPU wars are /g/'s version of console wars, and it's just as bad.

>>381839218
unless you want 4k it's not really necessary to have a 80 to enjoy games at max settings, for a lot of games probably even 144hz, at 1080.

if you're willing to pay a little more a 70 series is practically 80-85% power for half the cost.

7700 and 1070

how cuck am I

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>>381839019
Yeah, I surely love cooling 260 Watts with an IHS using tooth paste as conductor material :^)

>>381839467
You need at least 32gb of RAM to upgrade your core thingy

About how long will it be before the ~600 dollar 1080 is made obsolete? Will it last long enough for the money?

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>>381839365
Oh wait, what's this?

>>381838891
I don't live in a shithole country where this wattage difference makes any impact on my utility bills.

>>381839598
1070 isn't 80% of the power of 1080ti, it's like 50%. And 1070 isn't even half the cost of 1080ti, buttcoin miners have inflated the price too $700+.

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>>381832062

>>381839467

If you want to upgrade your CPU, you'll usually need a new motherboard with a new CPU socket (the "port" that your CPU plugs into.)

You can upgrade to a better CPU as long as it goes into the same socket as your old CPU, but if your CPU is old enough to need upgrading, then the socket and all of its associated CPUs are probably already phased out and you won't get much of an upgrade out of the whole deal.

>>381832197
>pentium
bruh

>>381839780
It's not about the power bill
see >>381839656

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>>381839830
Wow guys 184 dollars is a lot of money!

>>381839830
>i7-2600k
>came out in like 2011
>still performs better than AMD's new cheap alternative
>not comparing the top CPUs instead

>>381839365
>testing a CPU in GPU limited games

Top kek AMD moron

To bad once you start playing games that requires CPU power you're going to be 20% behind a i7 7700k despite the fact you actually paid more.

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>>381832197
>pentium
get an AMD FX cpu they're powerful for the price

Get an 8350
>$120
>8 cores
>4.2ghz
>way better than a pentium

>>381839830
this is true but as a customer i feel like i would rather get good performance than have everything slightly worse than the target i aim at

>>381830131
To be fair I bought my 3570K in 2012 or 2013 when Ryzen wasn't even a concept.

I'm glad AMD is competitive again. It's always better for consumers.

>>381840072
Fukken kek

Feels good to not be poor and have an i7-6700k.
OP is either a hipster or poor (probably both).

>>381830131

You don't need anything/much more than a quad i7 and it's true

>>381840173
Stop, FX CPU's are garbage all around.

>>381840304
better than pentium

>>381840289

>an i7

Why do people still do this? "i7" is not a CPU. It's a naming convention covering a broad range of CPUs. That's like being asked for your make and model of car and replying "sedan."

>>381840497
Not true at all.

With a pentium you could at least have an upgrade path, if you get an FX cpu you are getting shittier performance, and being locked into an obsolete ecosystem.

>>381840150
Any game that requires CPU extensively is going to be multitreaded unless it's some garbage like Fallout 4 running on a 20 year old engine.
>1700 costs more than 7700k
Nope.

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>>381840150
>It doesn't count because there could be slightly different results with the only faster GPU on the market available to this date

>>381840512

You could've just said it's generation and line of processors, nerd lord

>>381830131
Whats the Status of the I9 VS the Ryzen I need to make an unbiased comparison or do I have to go to /g/ for that ?

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>>381840072
>$10.82 per frame is a good deal!

>>381840765
You sure as hell don't want to be on /v/.

>>381836850
>random polish review site no one has ever heard of
This just in: I once overclocked a 7700k to 7Ghz, I swear. I'm also extremely attractive and a multi-millionaire

>>381840765
i9 doesn't even compete with ryzen, it competes with threatripper. If you're asking this question you're not in the market for either of these. i9 is garbage though, x299 is a rushed mess and kaby lake-x is the biggest scam to ever exist.

>>381840941
/g/ isn't much better

>>381838832
i wish i was smart enough to ethmine in the meantime. all this commandline shit and random errors is/are eroding my brain

>>381841058
It's still miles better than /v/ if you want tech advice, just look at this thread, someone is recommending an FX cpu for crying out loud.

>>381830131
I am planing on buying a gamming PC for christmas.

What do you recommend?

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Need some help, total newfag to pc building. trying to make something that'll last me for a long time. how is this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7wzvGf
pls help

>>381840765
both suck for gaming,i9 costs too much and ryzen is outperformed by intel eqiuvalents

so what price do we wait for to invest heavily into AMD stock?

>>381841203
>lasting a long time
good luck fag

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>>381840645
>>381840629

Hmm this can't be right, the Ryzen has MORE CORES surely it should be faster at real world tasks??

I havent been following computer parts for a while, are AMD processors still the best price/performance ratio

>>381841169
i7-7700k
>>381841203
do you just not care about the price,like my god 3k?

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>>381841203
shouldn't you move out of your mom's house before spending that kind of money, anon. I guess you probably don't have any other women in your life.

>>381841397
pretty much the reason why I'm asking for advice senpai.

>>381839136
this is exactly what i was thinking. if this isnt replicated in any other game then its a complete non-issue

>>381841479
>guess you probably don't have any other women in your life
Correct.

>>381841397
>i7-7700k
looks a bit too expensive for me

>>381841285
You should have bought in early 2016 when they were worth $2 a share, that's a nice 8x increase in value now.

AMD stock will probably still go up from here because they're about to make serious gains in the high margin server market, but you've already missed the train for making a huge return.

>>381832197
Doesn't Microcenter have 1070 i5 prebuilts for like $200 more than this

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What's a decent upgrade from my old ass i7 4790K and GTX 980? Mostly playing Fallout 4 and GTA V.

>>381841360
>Benchmark from before DOTA2 got patched to increase framerate on Ryzen
He does it for free.

>>381838114
Same. I may go for threadripper

>>381841918
1080ti

>>381841918
are you a fucking retard?
that CPU is more than enough for anything.

You don't seem to understand how fucking stagnated CPUs are.

>>381841203
Even if you're rich, I think 340 for a case is ridiculous sempai.

I recommend looking at other peoples builds in the the price range or around that gpu.

>>381841203
>Expensive = lasting long time

the PSU, 1TB SSD, $300 case, 32GB of RAM, and expensive motherboard are all too overboard you really don't need all of that.

>>381841518
7700k with aftermarket air cooler is top notch
16GB of ram is enough
Get EVGA/Asus card variant because their thermals/noise are better
1050 watts PSU is wayy too much 750 would be more than enough
Why do you need a optical drive for in this digital age?
Don't buy windows

Only thing really worth splurging on are GPU and the Monitor,everything else just needs to be adequate

please check the /pcbg/ on /g/

>>381830131
i love the meme that intel chips are inefficient housefires while amd chips aren't. i also like the one about nvidia graphics cards being inefficient housefires while amd cards aren't

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>tfw bought my 1060 before all the minecrafters drove up the costs

>>381842104
Yeah this is the GPU I'm leaning towards.

>>381842108
I mostly want to go DDR4 so I can get at least 32GB of RAM in my mini-ITX system. I sometimes have to use pagefile when editing multi-media.

>Using a 4690k
>Want to switch to Ryzen

Soon

>>381841918
>Upgrade
No need unless you upgrade your monitor

>>381842307
You should have said that. If you're editing media there is no reason to get cucked by Intel's 4 core shit at all. Just buy a 1700.

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>>381841479
yeah, what a loser!

>>381842347
Any specific monitor? I need it to be IPS/colour accurate for multi-media creation.

>i5 2550k @ 4.4gh

Is it time to upgrade?

>>381842505
>editing media
Yeah mostly photos so it's okay 99.99% of the time. But occasionally, I have massive, 100+ layer PSD files that can choke my system if I disable pagefile.

>>381842192
>air cooler is top notch
>16GB of ram is enough
>Get Asus card
>1050 watts PSU is wayy too much
>Why do you need a optical drive for in this digital age?
>Don't buy windows
>Only thing really worth splurging on are GPU and the Monitor,everything else just needs to be adequate
jesus just red flag fag

>>381842120
>>381842185
>>381842192
Thanks, buds. I appreciate the actual input. I'll look into it more.

>>381842542
There are 1440p 144hz IPS gsync monitors, pretty expensive but I have the Freesync version and I love it.

>>381841726
i invested in LMAO5shares because thats all i could afford at $13.44. so a small increase, but stupid now that i realize having any credit card debt that i could have paid off with that money negates any gains due to interest.

BUT after paying off that debt shortly, when is the NEXT price that is a good investment? i figure AMD is a solid choice for long-term investment, but obviously a short-term low is the time to buy

>>381831873

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>381842505
not just wait for i9, the 1700 is crap tier for wanabee gaymers

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>>381839830
>legacy chip that reached eol in 2011
>discontinued 4 years ago
>wonders why the price is high for something ended manufacturing 4 years ago
lmao gg no re

>>381830131
>buying an sjw chip

>>381842704
You should totally get that SSD tho my man.

>>381842667
in what way? not that guy, but everything other than the last line not including CPU to a certain extent seems totally reasonable, assuming >dont buy windows means pirate it

>>381842764
Yeah I've research them and found them too gimmicky for the price. I only really play single player games, even barely GTA V Online, so I found that premium on 144Hz monitors is better spent on more storage (constantly upgrading my NAS drives).

So are they actually worth it?

>>381830131
/g/ fag told me to get a 1600 instead of an i5 6600k for 1440p gaming should i believe him shills?

>>381842268
the real meme is that any CPU and GPU you dont like are housefires, but >>381839656 is at least some solid evidence of such

>>381842901
Alright, I'll keep a note of it. What I planned on doing was looking at pre-builts on pcpartpicker to get a better idea of what I should and shouldn't spend a ton of money on.

>>381841203
Drop the 6900k for a 7700k, 32gb for 16gb, expensive ass case for something from around $50-100 (you don't need a full tower), SSD for an HDD (a good 4tb drive will set you back around $100 for example), drop the expensive ass motherboard for something in the $100-200 range.

You probably don't need a 1050w PSU, and you can install Windows 10 from a USB stick (download is from Microsoft's website) and then use a tool to activate it for free (google Microsoft Toolkit)

You are building a gaming PC, not a server or a machine for professional rendering.

>>381842667
Liquid cpu cooler ain't worth the money for gaming or the little temp improvements
everything else obvious
>>381842901
This,elimating the long boot and load times is so great

ITT: corelets

>>381836850
Core series consistantly beats ryzen in unoptimized titles

>>381842996
yes. intel is not worth getting right now

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>>381841360
>Not stating anything about the x264 preset and resolution streamed

Yeah, I'm sure amazed at my 7700k corelet being able to stream Dota2 in 1280x720 using x264 superfast, what a surprise!

>All the eight-core CPUs did well, but the 7700K took a significant hit to performance by as much as 18FPS with OBS active. Ryzen did well, only dropping 3FPS while streaming

Not to mention that Dota has been patched shortly after that review.

Kill yourself, tech illiterate.

>>381830131
DELID THIS

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>>381841152
>just got my computer mining on a shitty 3gb 1060
>realized I'm retarded and that if I want a payout I need that thing running for a long time
>don't have another computer to do other shit on
>don't want to turn the mining off

>>381842971
Well I got mine on deep sale for ~$400, also the Freesyncs are always cheaper, I can understand being hesitant to buy one at the retail price. I play all genres of games, but I spend the most time on FPS and those are absolutely where you gain the most out of 144hz. If you already have a regular 1440p IPS I don't really have any suggestions to give beyond that

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waiting for Zen+ and either the gaming Vegas or Volta
if those bastard miners don't insta-drought

>>381843495
Fuckers will crash in a few months and a flood of gpus will start

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>>381843424
It's a Yamakasi DS270 27" 2560x1440p IPS monitor, but it's only limited to 59Hz for some reason.

>got a GTX 1080 off Amazon for only $550 due to prime discount
>Most of the GTX 1070 I found are vastly more expensive.
What's the point?

>>381843202
Better to get a 500GB SSD to go with a 1-2 TB hardrive

>>381843220
even though you're entire knowledge of PC components could be restricted to shitposting, would it be worth it to upgrade to any of the following in order to avoid upgrading the motherboard?

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7%20Extreme%20Edition%20I7-990X%20AT80613005931AA%20(BX80613I7990X).html

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20W3690%20-%20AT80613005931AB%20(BX80613W3690).html

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20X5690%20-%20AT80614005913AB%20(BX80614X5690).html

>>381843741

cryptocurrency miners bought them all

>>381843665
I'm pretty sure the majority of those Korean 1440p panels can get decent overclock on their refresh rate, you should look into it you might be able to get it up to 90hz or so

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So why the fuck is everyone suddenly snapping up all the GPUs to mine buttcoins? I thought it was supposed to get harder and harder as time went on, and it's been years since it was a fad. Has there been some new development or some shit?

>>381843886
Ethereum

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>>381843801
fuck, forgot pic, upgrading from pic related

>>381843351
after fucking around with that shit for this long without actually being able to set it up properly, im sure id spend more on electricity than i would gain anyway

>>381843886
Prices fluctuate and new fad currencies crop up.

>>381843886
People keep shitting out new currencies for people to mine. Actual Bitcoins are being mined by Jews in warehouses with purpose-built hardware.

>>381844004
no just buy a new motherboard, ram, and ~300 chip. more than 4 cores is superfluous for vidya currently.

>>381843202
>>381842192


Here is what I've got so far:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MgzvGf

>>381843665
Why don't you get an ultrawide?That extra space is great in gaming as well as production

>>381842572
please respond

>>381844241
thanks brah. im gonna have to wait a bit to upgrade anyway, so you're only going to be more correct by then. /g/ tends to agree

>>381844436

I used my masters' in computer hardware design to create this flowchart for you

>Are you running everything you want to?
>--->No: Time to upgrade
>--->Yes: Not time to upgrade

>>381844332
That card is a blower,which is for smaller pcs,get one with fans like this
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6593-KR
>1TB SSD
see>>381843759

>>381843854
Hmm not sure if my specific monitor is capable of doing so though.

>>381844359
I have a 24" 1920x1080p TN monitor for my sliders and as an auxiliary. Plus I don't have much room for a physically bigger main monitor.

>>381842572
>>381844436
im >>381844004 and i havnt run into any problems other than than gta v and just cause 3. and i think thats because of overclocking and RAM, respectively, rather than just my CPU not being good enough

>>381844810
Alright, outside that, everything else is looking fine?

>>381842996
Yep. If you really want Intel go with 7700k.

>>381844436
2500k to 1700 here. 2500k always running at almost 100% CPU usage and I need it for work. Upgrade if you're experiencing issues.

>>381839760
How the fuck do you patch a cpu

>>381844332
>70$ cooler
That's overkill
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Contact-Heatpipes-RR-T4-18PK-R1/dp/B00BSKY1M4

>>381841687
R5 1600 with either a 1060 or 580 if you can find any

>>381845194
Besides>>381845306
yeah,you buying a monitor as well or already have one?

>>381838114
Intel's 6 core looks terrible, you might need to shell at least $200-300 on a motherboard, since Intel though it would be a good idea to merge their HEDT i9s chips with the higher i7s and i5s

>>381845292

Microcode updates.

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>>381845648
I'm looking to get a two monitor set up, but I know it can be complicated. I'm looking to get a monitor with a pivot for schmups, and another for standard stuff.

Also, I hate to ask, but when it comes to ram, should I go for pic related?
And as for motherboard, I'm looking for a cheaper one, but each one I've tried so far says there's conflicting issues. Is that common? Or is it something I have to look into?

>>381845963
Can't actually give much about advice RAM/Motherboards since i haven't looked into upgrading those for 5 years

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>want to upgrade cpu from i5 2400
>forgot my mobo has a 1155 socket
I'm not up-to-date on hardware, this look good?

>>381842901
>>381843178
>>381843215
Why not just install the OS on a cheap ssd rather than paying close to $500 for one???

>>381846643
Alright, I appreciate it, man. Thank you either way.

>>381846710
The same reason you don't get any other cheap parts, they break more.

anything past haswell is still a meme at this point
>muh cores
no point in buying a thing you dont even use

>>381846690
>intel
nope looks like shit

>>381846690
It's probably not a great idea to buy a 7700k right now. If you can wait, hold out for coffe-lake, otherwise you might as well go with the R5 1600

>>381830131

Ryzen came out outdated so I'm not surprised AMD is still shit.