Unironically how much does this bother you?

None, because the update doesn't prevent the original from existing.

Looks pretty neat. Only an autist on the /v/ spectrum would flip his shit over it.

>>381826305
not much, still prefer the original though

>>381826305
i prefer the older style, but the classic mario look is fine.

the hammerbro, koopa and lakito are just lazy, tho.

>>381826305
not at all

I am extremely bothered by that logo, should've just called it Superstar Saga Deluxe instead of slapping "+ Bowser's Minions" on.

Sprites are whatever.

>>381826305
Not much. I can emulate the original whenever I want. I think I'll enjoy the new version regardless of whether the graphics are worse or not.

>>381826305
a lot actually, this is less of a remake and more of streamlining designs so everything is uniform, no more off-model enemies to give games a unique feel
why bother "remaking" something if you completely change the feel and atmosphere of it
it just screams that they ran out of ideas and decided "hey we already made a game, lets just make it again and save time"
that being said im going to buy it anyways because if i don't nintendo is going to do that "oh no one bought it, clearly nobody wants more mario RPGS" and shut the whole thing down

>>381826305
What, should I be surprised? This is Modern Nintendo.

>>381826305
Zero. I didn't enjoy the games because I was staring at the enemies, I enjoyed the game because it was fun.

>>381826305
A little bit. I miss the charm of the old ones. Not going to stop me from """"buying"""" though
>>381826396
shut up tripfag

>>381827427
>Charm
You mean nostalgia

Just gonna play Bowser's Minions from the new version and play the original in a injected GBA CIA

>>381826831
>it looks bad but i'm still going to pay money for it, maybe they'll make one that's not bad
That's not how it works. Pay for garbage, you'll keep getting garbage. Put your wallets away and demand something better, that's how people are getting their 2 new Metroid games.

i just hate how there's no outlines on the newer stuff
it looks awful

>>381827591
>You mean nostalgia
No, I mean charm, you dumb 12-year-old
The designs are very off-color compared to the normal Mario series and that's charming.

>>381827591
No, he means charm, shill. Making it more "SMB3/SMW" styled is for the sake of nostalgia.

>>381826305
Not at all, I'm not autistic and get worked up over the fact that Koopas stand on two legs.

>>381827756
>>381827745
not him but enemies in m&l have only really been off model in superstar saga. ever since partners in time they've been using the regular design for enemies while also creating brand new enemies. as long as this remake fixes tutorials and cranks up the difficulty then it'll be fine.

makes me sad this is not 4 the switch

>>381828043
Making the game into a series was a mistake.

>>381828190
shut the fuck up you stupid ugly bitch, never reply to me again!

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>>381827756
>>381827745
Whatever anons, find nostalgia in a dictionary if you like, I just hope you can take those glasses off someday

As long as the remake plays the same, I'm fine with it. If they load it up with bullshit like Dream Team and Paper Jam, I'll be mad.

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LEAK WHEN SO WE CAN GET THE REMIXED MUSIC

>>381828316
Not an argument. The first M&L is the only good one.

>>381828316
So you disagree that the art is different?

>>381828445
every single entry has it's flaws but they're all good

>>381828534
except paper jam

>>381826305
I hope miyamoto fucking dies

>>381826305

Nothing because I think they look generally better, especially the shy guy.

>>381828581
even paper jam!

the little bean monster guy looks good. everything else is worse than the original

>>381828534
No they aren't, they're boring.

>>381828797
no they aren't

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>remake changes how the game looks
HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE, YOU MEAN THEY REMADE IT FOR THE REMAKE? WHAT THE FUCK!?

>>381828668
explain

>>381829139
why?!

>>381829139
It was fun how the character talk to himself only paper, ha!

>>381828316
I never played the original superstar saga but I like those old sprites more than the boring new ones, what does that make me?

>>381829337
a guy who hasn't played the original and likes the old ones more?

>>381828247
>literally presenting his asshole
>not a faggot

>>381827427
This a billion times.

Lakitu is a great example of how cartoony the game looked before and I loved it

>>381826305
new ones look lazy and generic as fuck, but it doesn't really matter.

>>381826396
>>381827427
>autists getting BTFO by a fucking tripfag
these are dark times

>>381827684
It's because Paper Mario stole their outlines

>>381826396
this desu, i'm just gonna skip on it. not even worth pirating :/

>>381826305
None.

>>381831719
Put your trip back on

>>381826305
Not at all. Day 1 buy for the 3DS version.

>>381831719
>>381832641
there is nothing inherently wrong with tripfags

>>381826305
Bean Guy: Looks better in the remake, more expressive and better coloring.

Bullet Bill: Looks better in the remake, except for the face. More expressive in SSS.

Goomba: Better in the remake, but it's just a goomba, it's fine.

Hoohooros: About equal, slight edge to the remake for better graphics.

Bob-omb: Better in the remake, the original looks too fat.

Hammer Bro: Better in the original, looks more expressive and has a more unique sprite.

Twig Koopa: Better in original, due to unique sprite

Shy Guy: About the same

Mustache Tree: About the same, but edge to remake

Boo: Better in original for better expression

Vine Lakitu: Better in original for better sprite

Score: 8-5, remake wins.

Not that this even matters. What kind of autist actually cares about the sprites being slightly different? The game will be good either way, jesus.

>>381826396
le they're ruining my childhood faggots BTFO

>>381826305
Right
Left
Left
Tie
Left
Left
Left
Left
Right
Left
Left

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>>381826305
Only the new Troopeas and Lakipeas truly bother me, because I always thought of them as evolutionarily convergent counterparts like how the Beanie is supposed to be the Beanbean equivalent to a Goomba but obviously not a type of Goomba.

The members of Bowser's army slightly disappoint me because I loved the extremely cartoonish faces in SSS, but that's really the only game in the series that looked like that so it's not like we're trampling on a series tradition here.

The others, the original enemies, are a complete non-issue. Their designs haven't been touched at all, just redrawn in the new outline-less style.

Final verdict: who cares, I just want to hear the music without SFX or commentary already

>>381826305
Quite a bit actually.
Left: Unique designs with actual personality and character
Right: Miyamoto autistically screeching against originality and Sticker Starifying /NSMBifying a game with personality and character

>>381826305
What am I supposed to be upset about here?

>>381835421
>Miyamoto
I bet you're the kind of person who was spouting doomsday about all original characters being removed and replaced with Toads before we saw footage of the game.

>>381826396
Yup. Original is one of my favorite games, it just means i'll probably stick with that version.

>>381835793
Sounds like ribbing.

3DS Mario and Luigi games seem to lack some originality. Everything looks the same as any other regular Mario game, all recycled shit

>>381835421
Only a few characters that we've seen fall victim to this. Most look pretty much the same or are actually drawn better.

>>381836480
dream team is original

>>381835345
>who cares, I just want to hear the music without SFX or commentary already
This.
https://youtu.be/4SYLQl98orI

>>381836480
>he didn't play Dream Team

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>>381836480
>3DS Mario and Luigi games seem to lack some originality.

Not Dream Team.

>>381836563
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the games are not original or even bad, I loved Dream Team too, but something about their art style looks odd to me. I don't really know what

>>381836480
Dream Team has a ton of originality.

>>381826305
I can live. The bean bean fauna looks good at least.

>>381826305
it's acceptable

>>381826775
I agree with the name. They should hace sticked with a simpler, shorter name.

What continuity nods do you think they might add into the remake? They've already retconned the Elite Trio's presence into the Beanbean Kingdom via the Bowser's Minions game. Maybe a post-credits scene of Fawful crawling away after his last fight swearing revenge? PiT technically took place in the past so maybe they could do something with that too.

>>381837406
I just want a postgame fight with Prince Peasley.

>>381826305
I prefer the thick outlines but that's about it

>>381837406
I think the only things they'll do is retcon Fawful's death (make it clear he survived the explosion or whatever) and maybe have E. Gadd muse about time travel, setting up PIT.
Other than that, I don't see too many call-forwards unless Bowser ends up as the bonus boss and uses his powers from later games.

>>381826305

Nintendo is 100% in the right to homogenize all of their designs from a business standpoint. It is objectively better to have your products be instantly recognizable no matter what portion of them ends up being seen.

>>381826305
Doesn't bother me as long as it's 60fps.

>>381836673
Holy shit, that's the guy from Paper Mario on Wii. That's awesome.

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>>381837930
No, that's clearly the dude from Kirby.
Please tell me you weren't being serious

>>381838084
Why did they put Waluigi in a Kirby game?

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>>381826305
it bothers me that all the style this series started with is tossed out the window

imagine how shit fun designs like this will look now

not even worth a play, when the original isn't even that old and will play identically

So are they going to just replace Tanoombas with Big Tail Goombas? I will be so pissed, I love Tanoombas.

>>381839148
>THEY LOST THE STYLE THERE'S NO SOUL NO CHARM
>the GBA magikoopa literally looks no different than the standard "nu" style magikoopa

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>>381826396
Exactly this. Same reason why I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape over the Evangelion Rebuild movies. Yeah they're different and the plot kinda went off the rails in the third one, but even if you hate them the movies aren't replacing the original series or affecting it in any way.

>>381839148
Idk sniper bills might be mouthless now I guess.
And Magikoopas will be blue instead of purple.

You chose bad examples.

>>381839351
Depends on if they'll let the size slide or not.

I don't see the problem with the fuzzbush.

>>381826305
What's the problem here?

>>381832810
they're trying to identify themselves for no reason
imagine an office meeting where one guy shows up with a clown suit

>>381839968
Wouldn't a better analogy be if one guy showed up with a blatant name tag?

>>381828247
Why do koopas look like such fucking nerds now?

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>>381828247
No wonder the enemy designs were off, this was the Sunshine era.

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>>381826305
They removed all uniqueness and made it the most bland, corporate shit designs ever, so I'm disappointed that Nintendo, once again, has to ruin something that I loved. I'll bet it was the fucking out-of-touch George Lucas motherfucker Shigeru that did this.

M&L has had roughly the same artstyle since Dream Team and since they're still reusing assets from Dream Team they had to change some of the enemies to match Dream Team's artstyle. It's also pretty obvious that the Hammer Bros. and Bullet Bill sprites are reused ones rather than faithful recreations of the original Superstar Saga.

>>381840204
nametags are still acceptable in office scenarios
having one on 4chan leads to a 50-50 chance of shitflinging based on your trip

a better analogy would be showing up to an event wearing a nazi armband
sure people could ignore it, but someone is gonna call you out for being an asshole

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>>381840524
Another thing to consider, as I mentioned two-three posts ago, this was released around the time Sunshine was a thing and Sunshine had some really weird designs (the Bills and Time-Bob-Ombs are definitely based on the Sunshine version). These probably didn't stick out as much as they would now.

>>381840524
>Bullet Bill sprites are reused ones
Bullet Bills aren't enemies in Dream Team or Paper Jam.

>>381826305
Some shit looks fine. Lakitu, Boo, koopa troopa
and hammer brother look bad.

game on the right looks better but I'm not into kids games

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This is the only one that even slightly bothers me, I do like that craze expression on the hammer bro in the original a lot.

Are there seriously people here pissed about these designs?

Maybe not "bother" me but I'm way less interested in the game.

>>381841026
All games are kid's games. No one is impressed by you fag.

>>381838683
Come on, thats obviously Wamina.

>>381841128
yes yes now, go play your little mario game while the grown ups play arma

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It's on Miyamoto's tortured brow, that Donkey Kong has grown up a cow.

>>381841128
>this buttblasted
You will look like a autist to most if you say you play videogames anyway. Whatever makes you feel better.

Pretty much >>381826396 but I would prefer the old sprites over the blurry and comparatively dull 3D models in a new title, remake or not.

>>381841323
Meant for>>381841238

>>381841339
>blurry
The 3DS side is taken from youtube clips.

And

>3D models

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/03/mario-and-luigi-dream-team-development-prolonged-by-2d-animation/

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>>381841339
>3D models
You're doing this on purpose, aren't you?

>>381826305
Not much.
It was nice to have variety, but I can completely understand why the changes happened.
Honestly, people are making a mountain out of a molehill

I like the originals more because good sprite work looks better than 2.5d 99% of the time, but as far as 2.5d goes they've done a pretty good job of recreating it I guess.

>>381841693
The new ones ARE sprites, but they've had the life sucked out of them.

>>381841608
You're right, this remake is a molehill, not a mountain like the original.

>>381841693
>2.5d
>>381841589

>>381841834
Wow. Great comeback.

>>381842007
Thanks Nate.

I don't care what anyone says.
This remake looks great. The original looks great.
They both look great, but for different reasons.
I'm absolutely buying it, and I'm going to play the shit out of it.
Maybe I'll even play the original side-by-side to check out any differences.

>>381826305
Unironically i think Mario and Luigi is the inferior Mario RPG series and should just die

>>381842559
They both should. They're long overdue.

>>381826305
I'm not a fan of PJ and DT's art style in general. I prefer BIS.

>>381826305
Enough to kill my interest

>>381843595
I miss the outlines too

Maybe it's just me, but i like the new art better. It looks more SMRPG than it did in the original. I might actually play the game now.

Backgrounds are still meh tho.

>>381826305
Only bothered by the Boo

Boo's just aren't allowed to be stylish anymore I guess.

>can't be bothered to finish DT
>can't be bothered to even play PJ.

>>381826305
I think I prefer just to be blissfully ignorant.

>>381843595
>BIS
>Bowser's Inside Story
BiS*
It's called "Bowser's in Story"

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>>381847614

>>381847796
The Mandela effect, look it up.

>>381827591
I agree with that anon. Now explain how can I have nostalgia for a game I've never played.

>>381826305
The new bean looks good.
The new bullet bill is pretty much the same bullet bill from everything else these days, he lost his face, lame.
The new goomba is pretty much the same goomba from everything else these days, his scowl just looks less grumpy
The new statue is pretty much the same with more detailed lighting
The new bob-omb's body looks too small in proportion to its features, lame.
The new hammer bro is shitty all-around
The pea koopa troopa was made into a pea kaloopa taroopa, lame as fucking hell
The new shy guy is just proportioned a bit differently
The new bush looks fine
The new boo looks fucking lame, like a total pussy
The new vine lakitu is the worst one by far, jesus christ.

>>381826396
This goes to show why I ditched the M&L RPG series. The current devs took all the charm and personality that the original games were based on, what with the humorous characters and the expressions, it's just a bland and generic Mario series now. It's not even an artstyle problem, the original's designs had their own take on the designs of things, the new one just stays faithful to the official design which is bad.

>>381826396
This is true, but you can't pretend like the existence of remakes doesn't cause people to say "oh, don't play the original, just play the remake!"

Zero Mission didn't prevent Metroid from existing, but it did cause people to say "oh, just play Zero Mission, don't play Metroid!" They're two completely different games and both should be played, especially if you want a proper understanding of the Metroid series.

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0% Mad
Because its the same shit just updated. They did not butcher it like other games have been,
Trying to get angry over something this minimal, please

>>381840524
>they're still reusing assets from Dream Team
What makes you think that, when PJ sprites were redrawn because of the different angle they were given?

>>381850261
I would argue you should play Metroid first, since it gives you a better perspective on how the series has improved through the years, especially with the jump from 2 to Super.

>>381850261
>Zero Mission didn't prevent Metroid from existing, but it did cause people to say "oh, just play Zero Mission, don't play Metroid!"
That's because ZM is better than the original in every way and makes it obsolete.
This doesn't happen when the remake is bad like ORAS.

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>>381847614
>>381848308
But it absolutely is Bowser's Inside Story.

>>381850191
>charm and personality
Stop using this words that don't mean anything anymore. You just have nostalgia for the older games.

Post that fucking paper Mario remake

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>>381826396
3DSdude is the only non shitposting trip Ive seen on /v/, it's honestly surprising

Does nobody care about playing as Bowser's henchmen with that part of the game added in? I remember many people always clamoring for a Bowser only game where you commanded his own troops. This seems to be the closest we're getting to that.

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Right is Bowser. His horns and spikes are solid gold. His horns are large, his spikes are sharp. His face is expressive, he can be fierce. His scales are a soft orange. His shell is smooth, non-segmented. He is the king.

Left is neo-Bowser. His horns and spikes are dull colors. His horns are small, his spikes are dull. His face is fat, like he was stung by hornets. His scales are bright yellow like any other koopa. His shell is segmented like a commoner. He is nothing.

>>381850731
Fuck off Ninten drone. Look up comparison videos, there's a clear problem. Bowser looks only started when being shot out of a cannon, while in the original he's freaking out. The toads' eyes are all bugged out in the original too, but in this one they're just acting normally. It's not just this game either, ever since Dream Team the personality and expressions of the characters have been watered down. Whenever somebody doesn't like something Nintendo is doing in the modern era despite liking plenty of other games they're making, you retards just brush it off as nostalgia and accept anything Nintendo throws out at you. Fuck off.

>>381851170
I know you're joking but I've always liked the look of 2d mario designs more than 3d.

>>381851170
The spikes on the shell on the left are larger. His face is the right's translated into 3D.

>>381851326
>ever since Dream Team the personality and expressions of the characters have been watered down
this is so fucking wrong it hurts.
dream team was filled to the brim with personality as there was plenty of charm in its visuals, writing, characters, and entire world.
the bros (especially luigi) arguably had the most character in dream team.
if you're going to talk shit, at least play all the games before you do so.

It's cool theyre going 3d models, but I'll stick with the 2d original. I really like that scheme they have

>>381851837
I'm sick of this "3d model" bait.

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>>381851357
I'm not joking. I take this very seriously.

>>381851442
No they're fatter, but shorter.
It is a poor translation.

>>381851738
I did play all the games, maybe you should take your own advice if you're looking to refute my arguments. That game was so dry and boring, I was ashamed to relate it the original triilogy, but at least it wasn't Paper Jam where it reminded me of not one but two RPG's that deviated from their original source material.

>>381851170
That's the problem with transitioning to 3D. Sometimes shit doesn't translate well.

>>381852152
Maybe in the 90's but with modern technology and an experienced team there is no excuse.

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>>381828316
>Something is completely different from the original series and has different art
>Somehow not charm
Would you use this argument for Yoshi's New Island over the original as well?

>>381852120
awful bait but i can't help myself.
>I did play all the games, maybe you should take your own advice if you're looking to refute my arguments.
how about you refute my arguments.
>That game was so dry and boring
not an argument, how is it boring?
>I was ashamed to relate it the original triilogy, but at least it wasn't Paper Jam where it reminded me of not one but two RPG's that deviated from their original source material.
how did it deviate from their source material?

>>381852260
Even with advancements in technology it won't be the same as 2d. It can be done extremely well now but it will never be exactly the same. 3D mimicking the 2d style is great though. But There are still things that will always look better in 2d or 3d.

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>>381852716
forgot pic

>>381852260
You don't understand. There techniques used in 2D drawings that can be used to hide the awkwardness of something that just plain can't be used in 3D.
Sometimes in Kirby threads an image comparing Kirby in a maestro's outfit will be shown from Super Star and Super Star Ultra, one being a 2D image and the other being 3D. The 3D version looks considerably worse, and it's a good example of what I mean. I just wish I had the image.
Anyway, the 2D image looks better because when you're working with 2D you can just conveniently ignore some things, like how Kirby is supposed to be a sphere, and make it look nice as a result. The same can't really be done for a 3D model.

>>381852523
>Not an argument, how is it boring?
I just fucking said it, the new games don't have the same witty writing that Superstar Saga had. Learn to fucking read my posts.
>How did it deviate from the original source material?
You. dense. Motherfucker. Read above. They don't take their own design chouce, they just follow through with the same boring official art.

I don't even need to explain Paper Mario deviating from its source material, and it's too damn obvious you haven't played the games if I need to explain it. I'm clearly not the one baiting here.

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>>381852813
Wrong, they just aren't trying hard enough.

>>381833573
art direction. sprites have a unique charm and style. the 3D, while fine, lack that. the 3D ones look like every other mario game which isn't inherently bad, but why remove the character of the game just to replace it with generic models? I'm not honestly wondering since i know the answer, but it is just another thing nintendo has decided that has pushed me from the brand.

Definitely not getting it

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>>381852813
You're lucky I'm lurking.
I don't think it's a matter of the 3D version not being able to capture the quality of the original, though, it could certainly be done. It would simply take more time and money to model the more expressive Kirby and less rigid suit, only to compress it into a sprite that only appears on one screen.

>>381850731
>Stop using this words that don't mean anything anymore.
>says the guy that says "nostalgia" in the same post
I've never seen a lack of self-awareness quite like this.

>>381853202
That tin-foil hat looks a little tight on you.

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>>381853783
It's supposed to be tight you idiot.

>>381842559
I believe this as well but I don't want Mario & Luigi to die. Actually, it's making me realize just how young the people on this board are if they're more nostalgic for a spiritual successor rather than than the original. Mario RPG was the first turn based RPG I ever played to completion and even to this day I can't play through a game if it's just a glorified menu simulator that doesn't require any sort of timed inputs from the player.

>>381853202
>>381853861
Good grief, the old Yoshi looks like a giraffe.

>>381828247
I have been waiting for this.

>>381848308
The Mandela effect isn't an excuse for people just blatantly not remembering things correctly.

>>381854089
Little-known fact:
Many theropods had long necks.

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>>381839148
>just noticed that Sniper Bill's are holding superscopes

>>381829024
>remade it
>lazily reuses assets from earlier titles

>>381854032
21 here, my age range is the kind that is nostalgic for these games honestly. I played Mario RPG, and I loved it more than the M&L series, but I didn't find it any more difficult than the Mario RPG's that followed afterwards, unless if you count the secret boss. I personally favor the first two Paper Mario games more than M&L, and it still ticks me off that the former's RPG elements got the shaft in favor of the latter.

>>381852993
>I just fucking said it, the new games don't have the same witty writing that Superstar Saga had. Learn to fucking read my posts.
you never stated anything in regards to fucking writing you mongoloid, every entry in the series has plenty of great writing and character moments.
>You. dense. Motherfucker. Read above. They don't take their own design choice, they just follow through with the same boring official art.
this is barely a deviation as they've used the mainline mario characters designs in these games since partners in time. as a result of this, the character designs were never truly set in stone so it's not breaking any traditions. everything else from the gameplay, characters, and story haven't deviated at all as they are all similar.
You could say paper mario deviated as early as the third game since they replaced the typical combat and overworld exploration.

>hideous off-brand shit is now "charm"
Do you people unironically play bootleg games and like them?
Oh wait, of course you do, you see them on LE VINESAUCE and instantly download every single one of them.

>>381854757
>You could say paper mario deviated as early as the third game since they replaced the typical combat and overworld exploration.
And that's exactly what happened? Thanks for proving my point there.

Did I fuck up getting Paper Jam instead of Dream Team? Don't get me wrong it's not a bad game but the whole game screams wasted potential. I wanted to see Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi characters interact, not see another shitty Paper Toad.

>>381854942
AlphaDream seems to be going in the IntSys direction, meaning "act retarded and don't come up with any good ideas whatsoever and then blame Nintendo for 'stifling' you".
They said they didn't include Paper Luigi because controlling four characters with four different buttons would be too hard. The same people that made Partners in Time said this.

>>381826396
fpbp

>>381854942
>Did I fuck up getting Paper Jam instead of Dream Team?
Depends. Their positives and negatives are kind of the opposite of each other.
Dream Team has a more interesting world and story but the heavy tutorials and some gyro stuff hamper it.
Paper Jam blows it out of the water gameplay-wise and implements a ton of QOL stuff and fixes the tutorial problem that's been plaguing the series since the first game, but like you said, the story and world is just a lame paper toad hunt.

There's nothing wrong with keeping the enemy designs consistent between different parts of the franchise. It only makes sense that they want to stick closer to the main designs considering how long Mario has been around. I don't really see a problem with this, especially since they still have the unique enemies that don't appear in the mainline Mario games.

>>381826305
Just finished the original via injected cia :^)

>>381854942
They both have different pros and cons.

Dream Team's pros is that it's original as fuck and the presentation is steller. The gameplay however has tutorial overload and mandatory gyro controls for certain things as its cons.

Paper Jam's strengths is the battle gameplay being ridiculously good and tight, and QOL improvements like being able to skip most tutorials now and fast forward scenes and no more Gyro controls, but it's the most normal and bland of the M&L's despite the crossover for the most part.

TLDR: Dream Team's Presentation is great, Gameplay has some questionable stuff like overdoing the tutorials. Paper Jam's Gampley is great, Presentation is Meh for the most part. Basically their pros and cons reverse, going from one into the other.

Basically depends on what you want out of a Mario RPG more.

>>381854496
When I was talking about menu simulators, I wasn't talking about the any of the Mario RPG games. That's just an insult to traditional turn based RPGs in general. I can't stand a game where I just pick a move and it executes the move for me without me doing anything. Mario RPG was my introduction into this style of RPG. Even nowadays, I'd much rather play a musou style game than a menu simulator. My fingers need to be doing something. This is why I also said that the M&L series shouldn't die.

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what's /v/'s opinion on BiS?

>>381855192
>They said they didn't include Paper Luigi because controlling four characters with four different buttons would be too hard. The same people that made Partners in Time said this.
Remember that you never controlled all 4 bros at once except when using Bros Items. Managing 3 characters at once during the enemy's phase is already a pretty big jump in difficulty since you can no longer cheese the tells by having both bros jump simultaneously.

>>381855813
First off, it's BIS you god damned memer.
Second, it's good.

>>381855750
Dream team's only con was pacing. Too much content packed in certain places.
That's not the worst con.

I like the gyro controls.

>>381855972
I didn't mind the Gyro controls personally, but I could see why they be an issue for some people

>>381855750
they gyro controls work well for things like the bros. attacks, the only time where it got dumb was during some shit in the zeekeeper fight as it had me up and down and all around. i'd put there combat pretty close together as both have pretty fantastic boss fights.

>>381854424
Holy fucking shit.

>>381826305
The only one that really bothers me is the angrybirds bean

>>381856159
*i'd put Dream Teams combat and Paper Jam's combat pretty close together

>>381855972
Have you ever tried gyro controls in a car? Can't even shoot an arrow in OoT 3D without shit going out of control.

>>381856326
just use your feet too steer. i tried using my knees but i cant really turn well when i do that

>>381829139
I never played it myself, but I heard Paper Jam had the best boss battles in the series thus far.

>>381856440
I was talking about road trips but you gave me a nice kek.

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>>381855813
One of my favorite Mario and Luigi games, the challenge room in that game is one of my top favorite parts of it, you can refight bosses but they're harder.

>>381826305
I will probably always enjoy the expressiveness and style of the original sprites, but personally I'm just not that bothered by things like this. It helps that I appreciate AlphaDream's new spritework, those things have millions of frames.

i liked dream team, the increase in difficult was certainly welcome. though at times it felt like i was playing a golden sun game with all of the unskippable dialogue sequences and tutorials

>>381839405
Eva fag here
I don't mind them existing, unless they turn them into a sequel. Something about that idea really bothers me.

>>381831719
>>381833717
>cockgobbling fanboys have to cling to the opinion of a retarded tripfag
these are dark times

>>381826396
And that makes it ok for the remake to be shit then? What kind of argument is this?

>>381826305
Slightly peeved that you're still around posting the same pictures every day.

>>381853202
I miss the old Yoshi
I don't like this new gay, more-anthropomophic Yoshi

>>381855865
Keep Paper Mario and Paper Luigi folded in M&L's pockets.
They don't NEED to be tailing the duo in the overworld, you know, they can just come out when needed.
Like, I dunno, in Partners in Time?

Dumbass.