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ITT: Games that punish good players and reward mediocre ones.

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ITT: Games that punish good players and reward mediocre ones.
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OP just got rinsed.
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>caring about mario kart's competitive legitimacy
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>>381811995
>wanting a competitive game to punish good players
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>>381812189
>family guy
also
>mario kart
>competitive
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>>381812189
Mario Kart's point is to be wacky fun rather than competitive.

Playing Mario Kart like you'd play a serious racing game is like playing Mario Party seriously, it's just stupid
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>>381812471
>game where you compete with other people
>competitive

Yes, that's what the word means.
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>>381813129
if it's about fun, why don't people in first place have access to fun items?

Instead, they are limited in order to give the other players a chance at first place. That's competitive mechanics, not fun ones.
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>>381813183
>not knowing the difference between competitive and casual games
Next you're going to say "I was only pretending to be retarded!"
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>>381813368
>not knowing what the word competitive means

Next you're going to say "I was only pretending to be retarded!"
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>>381811838
fuck off morton mains
if you see you ona wiggler one more fucking time im going to eat your legs
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>>381811838
Double Dash > MK8
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>>381813439
>ignoring my post
>using jojo memes without jojo reaction images
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>>381813585
>ignoring the definitions of words
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>>381811838
>>381812189
>>381813183
>>381813439
nice samefagging
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>>381813326

How? Rage mechanic?
It usually rewards the player for surviving to a high % on their first stock.
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>>381813705
my dude a competitive game is a game in which people test their raw skill against each other while a casual game is a game meant for fun. Mario Kart's randomness with items removes the skill required for a victory and replaces it with randomness/luck. This means that mario kart does not test player's raw skill against each other like a competitive game would.
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>>381813585
>he thinks it's a jojo meme

It's from a stick figure comic, fucking newfag
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>>381813287
what's a "fun item"?
Itens are fun in the context of either hitting other players or getting, if you're first what's the point?

The game wants the players to be constantly in different positions so they can be using itens, changing their focus and be constantly stimulated. It's not about tracing a complex strategy to be in first place, just trying your best and seeing what happens.
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>>381814027
So answer this

Do you compete with other players in Mario Kart?
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>>381814048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jnVadPvjro
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>>381814168
yes but that doesn't mean it's a competitive game. It is a casual game. Think mario party. You compete against other players but does that make it a competitive game? No, it's a casual party game.
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>>381814187
That came out 3 years after the original meme

lurk moar, newfag
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>>381814351
> You compete against other players but does that make it a competitive game?

Yes. You just demonstrated that it does, by qualifying it as a competition.
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>>381814585
And an internet comic is where JoJo got it from
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>>381814187
that guys trolling you
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>>381814358
A stick figure comic that became a meme came out in 1984? Damn.
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>>381814471
competitive game is a whole term. It means a game that is taken seriously as a demonstration of raw skill between 2 (or more, but typically 2) players. Comparing chess to yahtzee, they both involve competition, but chess is considered a competitive game because it judges raw skill.
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>>381814168
not the guy you're talking to but you're fucking stupid

"competition" can be recontextualized in a game to fit different kinds of objectives, a game like Mario Kart is not meant to be played like Super Street Fighter II.
That's why for most people it's more fun to play Mario Kart casually with your friends than Super Street Fighter II and it's more fun to play Street Fighter II strategically and seriously than Mario Kart.
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>>381814901
>>381814769

So you guys are saying you DON'T compete again other players in Mario Kart?
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>>381814656
The original "I was only pretending" is from a comic, yeah, but Jojo did its thing way before that comic. Don't be dumb.
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>>381813828
It's push and pull.
the next stock the other guy will most likely have the advantage
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>>381814729
>>381814998


A manga in 1984 became a meme in 1984?

The stick figure comment was what became a meme, not the JoJo manga, Then the anime version became popular afterwards.

Don't be dumb.
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>>381814971
read again
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>>381815114
Answer my question
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I do agree MK8 is kinda bullshit, you'll be cruising in first and get smacked with a blue shell, hit by a red shell, Bob-ombed, and hit with some fuck with star power, and suddenly you're in 12th on the final lap and they give you red shells instead of anything useful.
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>>381815194
I already did but your reading comprehension is garbage
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>>381815618
So then you DO compete with other players?

I guess it's a competitive game then, thanks for the answer.
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>>381816936
never said otherwise.
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>>381817170
Then why were you trying to hard to explain what a competitive game is if you agree that MK is a competitive game?

You wouldn't explain how to play MK to someone who already knows how to play.
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>>381817350
Is every game an RPG?
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>>381817350
>You wouldn't explain how to play MK to someone who already knows how to play.
if they were playing a different mode they haven't played yet, yeah, I would.
same idea.
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>>381811838
Why the fuck can't I permanently disable that fucking "smart" steering from within the options?
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>>381817459
Yes
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>>381817612
Thanks for proving you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>381814769
>>381814901
If you take the items out, will you consider it a test of raw skill?

You're racing to a finish line using your skill. Which is also what you're doing when items are involved.
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>>381817604
You can.
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>>381817748
Do you play a role in video games?

Answer: yes.

Whether it be the role of someone playing a game, or the role of a cartoon character driving a kart.
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>>381817793
I can't even find any options, I can only deactivate it from within the kart selection screen.
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>>381817919
You can turn it off in the pause menu.
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>>381816936
Stop falling for this fucking bait Christ. You guys shit talk reddit or whatever but honestly you guys are way fucking worse when it comes to being baited so easily
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>>381817854
Yes. That's not the definition of RPG though.
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>>381817854
If someone explains the "Blue Ocean Strategy" to this guy he's gonna think they're talking about an actual ocean
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>>381818030
>role playing game
>playing a role in a game
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>>381811838

Affirmative Action
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>>381818104
>if someone understands English, they must make English mistakes

Nope. Try again
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>>381818217
Yes, everything is meant to be taken literally
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>>381818628
That was sarcasm. Which I was able to recognize because I don't take everything literally.

Checkmate.
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>>381812189
>Thinking Mario kart is designed as a competitive game
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>>381819081
>game with the objective to cross the finish line first

Yeah, definitely not competitive. It's not like they designed different parts to change your speed/traction etc. Those are all fun stats, nothing to do with winning,
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