Star Citizen

no word on why they needed an advance on their tax rebate, but hey i'm sure they just did this for kicks and not because they're short of money or anything

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>D-DEREK SMART IS RIGHT GUYS!!!

>>381809329
Gonna go with Brexit.

>>381809630
clear as the fucking sky

>>381809329
It literally says it in the post, they do it to avoid converting USD and EUR to GBP when the currency market is in flux.

how cucked is england?

Motherfucker I don't understand that shit.

So they're taking government loans and promise Scam Citizen won't become the property of the government of UK? Just like fucking Rhode Island doesn't own Kingdoms of Amalur?

Fuck off Roberts.

>>381809083
>>381809329
>>381809846

considering how rich people use banks to launder money, i think they try to sweep some of the funds away without the plebians noticing

also no explanation as to why they'd pledge all the company's assets, but hey ortwin told you not to worry so don't worry

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>>381809329
Brexit. The pound will be better off in a year's time once people stop shitting themselves in fear, ergo it's better to borrow now.

>>381810085
KOA was flatout funded by RI from the start. Not comparable.

>>381810224
All they pledged was the office + shit in it, which is standard.

>>381810323
no, it isn't, but hey whatever keeps you donating

>>381810085
They took a loan from Coutts, a very very rich private invite-only bank, as an advance on a tax rebate they'll get next year because they need GBP specifically and converting their warchest of USD and EUR to GBP is a financially risky move. Because Coutts isn't dumb they want collateral, in this case their assets except for Star Citizen

When they get the rebate they can pay off the loan and nothing will happen, and they're guaranteed to get the rebate unless somehow the entirety of the UK defaults.

where's the video-game?

>>381810323
>Brexit. The pound will be better off in a year's time once people stop shitting themselves in fear, ergo it's better to borrow now.

this is what Brits actually believe

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let's see what derek has to say

and yes, he has been completely insufferable these last few days, thanks for asking

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>>381809083
>you apply for a loan for a tax rebate
>you have to put up collateral for a tax rebate

holy shit this is just getting pathetic

>>381810661
Derek smart is literally the TORtanic meme anthropomorphized

>>381810661
god damn
between SCucks and DSmart this whole thing is such a show

>>381810491
So what your saying is rather than deal with the currency fluctuations of USD to BP they're taking a loan out in BP instead?

>>381810661

Derek Smart is an autistic retarded who's still mad that his shitty asset flip doesn't get any recognition.

Even when Star Citizen will end up as a scam, i'd rather let Chris Roberts fuck my dog and kill my wife than pay for any DS game

>>381809374
>>381810661
>>381810854
RENT
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I still don't get the hate of /v/ for this game. Maybe it's to ambitious and will fail, but if you don't trust in it, don't put money in it and wait to see. Why are you wishing so bad for it to fail ?

>>381810916
Exactly. The rebate will be in GBP as well as it comes from the UK government so they will be able to pay the loan with it without having to worry about currency fluctuation. Financially it's a much safer move than exchanging USD or EUR for GBP at the moment.

>>381809083
Was it /v/ or those goons?

>>381811027
Because SCultists are insufferable just like biodrones

>>381810765

Some tax preparers do a similar thing for their clients where they pay the client a portion of the refund to have up front but instead the preparer takes the full actual refund whenever it gets issued later so the idea isn't without precedent.

>>381810560
>implying
Initial panicking is generally the worst impact you'll ever see from an event. The actual Brexit will probably have less of an impact than the announcement of the referendum result.

t. Remainer

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>>381810661
this fukin guy, he will never give up

>>381811027
games that are huge flops tend to generate enormous amounts of drama.

>>381811104
This honestly, I've been hearing about this shit for the last 5 years and there is still no release in sight.

>>381811104
I've honestly never seen a positively themed thread about this on /v/.

>>381811356
Game is playable in Alpha. You can dl it.

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>>381810085
You got duped by retards who didn't understand the documents they were waving around for shitposting, and were relying on fucking Derek Smart for the actual explanation of what it all meant lmao

>>381811479
you either weren't around or weren't paying attention back when it was still int he hardcore shillfunding phase

>>381811212

yes the Brexit will probably have not a big impact on your currency, but your economy will still take a huge beating, and people who think that Daddy Donald will give you a great trade deal are more delusional than Jeremy Corbyn voters

That nigger smart spent all weekend on this nothing story, gotta feel sorry for him.

All his life is at this point is being mad about star shitizen.

>>381809329
Maybe if they didn't buy a Star Trek door with kickstarter money and actually used it on the game they wouldn't need to do that

>>381811658
>at this point
It's actually been like this for a long time, his life is literally Star Citizen. Not even kidding, he spends nearly every waking moment writing long worded nonsensical blog posts and tweeting about it.

>>381811240

The question being, is it jealousy, trolling or just stupidity ?

>>381811658

Won't lie, I'd love to have the money so I can just spend my weekends shitposting all day.

>>381811658
the best part is that he's the natural boogeyman for every scultist by now. whenever anyone brings up any kind of criticism about the game, it's immediately met with DEREK SMRAT DEREK SMRAT!!!

>>381809083
This game still isn't out yet right?

>>381811803
>that's pretty sad

Why is the dude so obsessed ?

i dunno, if the game was doing as well as they say, they wouldn't feel the need to change the EULA all the time to restrict refunds or outright ban them

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>>381811658
Who even funds Derek Smart to be a top investigative journalist and forensic accountant anyway?

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>>381810661
Reminder for the unaware.

Also, his lawyer quit over "irreconcilable differences" so the case has been put back to January.

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>>381810491
But what IF it fails?

>>381812178
Huh, he owes that much yet he lives in your head rent free.

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>>381812126
They are getting millions a month so...

>>381812006

3.0 realease date isn't even officialy announced (tho it will probably be in the two next months)

>>381812408
So they just alter the EULA and try to make it more difficult because.......

>>381812387
>s-stop talking about the guy that everyone is citing as to why the story is true

>>381811803
At least he found his passion, making games was obviously not it.

>>381812570
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>>381812368

Well if the UK goes completely belly up, I doubt SC will be an issue anymore.

>>381812112
I think he just got salty his games were ass and Chris Roberts at least put out something worthwhile in his life.

>>381812412
it's supposed to go out to selected backers next month. of course, before that it was supposed to go out this month, and the month before, and so on

i'm thinking it'll go out right around gamescom so that CIG can have a nice distracting presentation around the same time

>>381812626
Derek can live rent free in my head as long as he keeps being a hilarious lolcow.

>>381811991
really handy, isn't it? if they didn't have derek smart they would have had to invent him

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>Check this out. Starcitizen is finally finished.

>>381812891
he's literally the MUH JEWS boogeyman that /pol/ has

>>381812741
3.0 has always meant to go out to Evocati at about this time since the schedule came out. Three weeks of delay in three months overall, iirc.

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Your average scam citizen backer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blPpnnSOiwk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlWQ3s5Xc8

>>381809083
Goddammit. I wanted to make this thread. How many fucking times must /v/ be BTFO? BOTW absolutely BTFO /v/. What else?

>>381812891

Because he's an imbecile saying crap doesn't mean he's the only one :V

>>381812891
Who would waste their time inventing an autist that pays to use forums just to shit on a video game?

>>381810951
Is this Donny?

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>>381813234

>>381813596
literally who? is this another boogeyman?

>>381813618
>/v/ gets so BTFO they have to start posting strawmen
Lmao

>>381813084
ah so i suppose next month the testing will have always been scheduled for august

>>381813783
>implying furries are the largest community on SC

YA SHUD AV VOTED STAY, BRITBONGS!

>>381813876
No. Not implying that at all. Implying the absolute opposite. Nobody likes the furries.

>>381813952
typo actually, they ARE most definitely the largest organized community in SC without question

>>381813842
We have always been at war with eastasia.

>>381812178
>broward county
Holy shit i'm not that far away from him then.

>>381809083
ITS STILL NOT RELEASED?

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE ARREST THESE CRIMINALS

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>>381813234
>the fucking STATE of this game

>/v/ thinks the game is owned by the bank
>Get absolutely rekt after spreading misinfo
>Now /v/ resorts to never ever shitposting and posting five random furries
Lel

>>381814515

Yeah sure, because working is a crime

And don't say shit like "olololol they just drink 20k coffee", we have proof of the advancement of the game.

>>381814815
It is not owned by the bank.
Yet.

>>381814815
>the only 'proof' is by a PR guy for the company who just says things with no evidence

seems legit

So when it's not owned by the bank, why does CIG need a license then?

>>381814865
>we have proof of the advancement of the game
CIG puts out amazing videos of their progress all the time

funny how none of that ever ends up in the backers' hands, but hey just keep on spending

>>381814815
It's actually always like this, there's a shitload of SC info out there because they do reports nearly daily.

The kind who shitposts obviously doesn't follow that, so the only thing they can do is flail miserably when anything is debunked.

>>381814965
Co-founder and lawyer.

>>381814915
>>381814965
>It will happen just you wait and see!
Just like Nintendo is gonna die tomorrow huh faggots?

>>381815309
oh that makes him much more believable then

>>381810539
this is the only real question

>>381815337
just sayin - you typically don't need to take out a loan or put up collateral to get a tax rebate

>>381809083
believe neofag bait thread
i guess admin don't do their work.

>>381811702
Its just an automatic door, nothin special

>>381811702
where's the guy who comes in every thread and justifies spending 13k for a coffee machine?

>>381815457
This desperation. I'm sure you know all about running businesses my little autist.

>>381815649
He probably is the OP. Can't imagine there are many cultists that post here.

>>381815649
Not to justify the coffee machine but that's literally one of the whales clicking a combo package button to cover those costs.

>>381815742
you seem really angry for no reason.

how much were you swindled out of?

>>381815649
My company's coffee maker is 6k. Services 100. Makes espresso, latte, the works. I use it three times daily. Now multiply that by 100.
>>381815817
45 dollars. How much does that trigger you? A lot apparently because you're the same autist posting the same
>How much were you scammed? XDXD
Every thread.

>>381816032
ITS YOU! HE'S HERE!

>>381816032
>thinks everyone who posts of a chinese ouji board is derek smart
The people who backed scam citizen should be put on a fasttrack for mental help. They obviously need it.

>>381816032
>Now multiply that by 100.

so cig has a building with 1000 employees in it?

so basically they just took out the corporate equivalent of a payday loan

definitely nothing to worry about here, project's in great shape

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Smarties

When will they learn

I work in a bank

Pledging everything you own because of a tax rebate is insane.

They either are:
idiots and the bank asked for the most unreal collateral and it passed
near bankrupt and the bank does not want a short term exposure to their company without colletaral

>>381816376
Just keep the sheckels flowing, goyim, we'll definitely deliver the game you want!

Jesus christ how can people be so fucking insufferable? There isnt any actual discussion that goes on anywhere its always just a bunch of douchebags throwing memes at eachother.

>>381816224
>Mental help
Ironic considering you're spending your sunday shitposting video games. Do you also pay money to access forums?
>>381816356
I use my coffee maker three times daily. Now multiplay that three times daily by 100 people.

>>381815742
And you do ?

>>381816669
its pretty funny to read though

>>381816890
>shilling for a scam
there's a reason everyone calls you cultists.

>>381816540
>everything you own
>only involves the UK studio and the single-player part

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>>381813234
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlWQ3s5Xc8

>>381816931
No, and I'm not pretending I do either. Unlike you children stuttering out
>Well normally these things I have zero understanding of don't do this!
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-apple-raised-65-billion-in-debt-2015-2
>>381817015
Who is the real cultist? The faggot that spends every waking moment of his life obsessed with shitposting a video game? Or someone excited for a video game?

Someone post Sandi's tickle fetish videos.

>>381816890
you're not answering the question, coffeefag

>>381817038
>for a rebate

something smells fishy as fuck here

>>381817173
>Answer a question which has no relevance to what I said or my company
Why are you so triggered? Does getting BTFO rustle you this hard?

>>381816224
>Wow they are so mentaly ill to put money to support the devlopment of the game of their dream

>>381817125
>who's the real cultists? the guy who spent actual money on pixels and lies or the guy making fun of him?
this is a hard question for cultists

>>381817125
>Who is the real cultist?

everyone else is laughing and trolling you and you keep standing up for the 'honor' of a video game company that has yet to put out a product

so the answer is you

>>381816938

It used to be but you can only see the same comments repeated so many times.

>MUH DEREK SMART
>CROWFUNDING!?!? REEEEEEEEEEE
>JEWS
>NEVER RELEASE
>SHILLSHILLSHILLSHILLS

Its the classic "this is popular and successful so i hate it" bullshit.

>>381817245
Believe it or not but when you partner with the Queen's bank they do want to see something.

>>381816669
Welcome on 4chan, wait I meant, the internet.

I know, it's horrible, but you get use to it

>>381817296
>>381817313
>Neckbard /v/irgins laughing and pointing at others as they drown in their cynical lives alone and miserable
LMAOOO

>>381817038
The uk studio is the only real collateral they have and likely the most valuable thing for the company.

Games are intangible assets which from a credit perspective equals to zero since they are deduced from a bank's balance sheet when calculating solvency and you can't really put a reliable price tag on it

>>381817431

>implying your life is any less cynical or miserable just because you paid 2500 dollars for a jpg of a spaceship.

>>381817283
you said

>My company's coffee maker is 6k. Services 100. ...Now multiply that by 100.

Which would imply that they have over 1000 employees for this coffee machine to serve. I asked a serious question and you got really angry about it for some reason that I simply do not understand. I do not know how many employees they have, but if you're going to say that a 13k coffee machine is a valid expenditure, then give a number that implies it's making 10,000 cups a day, I'd like to know how many people its serving.

>>381817431
>This much post purchase rationalization for something you supposedly only spent $45 bux on

I don't understand

>>381817125
yes, CIG taking out a loan to get an advance on a tax credit that's due in a few months is exactly like what apple did here

there's nothing to worry about

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>>381817431
>cultist doesn't realize he's even lower on the totem pole than the average /v/ poster

>>381811027

Most of the people defending Scam Citizen here are redditors with $4000+ already invested into the (((game))), of course they'd defend it with their lives.

>>381817313

Well, sorry for feeling the need to put some words in defense of something we like.

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>post yfw you didn't fall for the scam

>>381817542
Not him but you know you're down the deep end of shitposting if you're discussing the efficiency of an entirely insignificant expenditure spent on an office appliance on a video game thread.

>>381817525
>2500
45 dollars my little autist. I'm loving how triggered you are.
>>381817542
>Has to edit my sentence
LMAOOO
>My company's coffee maker is 6k. Services 100. Makes espresso, latte, the works. I use it three times daily. Now multiply that by 100.
>I use it three times daily. Now multiply that by 100
Absolutely BTFO
>>381817609
>>381817643
>>381817657
>Cultists that spend their weekends shitposting on video game forums
Stay mad cultists.

>>381817718
>"feeling the need" to defend a corporation that doesn't give a shit about you and hasn't even put out a product

Explain.

>>381817440

>Games are intangible assets which from a credit perspective equals to zero since they are deduced from a bank's balance sheet when calculating solvency and you can't really put a reliable price tag on it

Exactly the point. The whole collateral deal isnt as much of a way to earn back the loan if not paid but more of a way to ensure that it is paid. Something doesnt have to have money value to be useful as collateral as it just has to be important to whoever is getting the loan.

The worth of the code they made is literally $0 to the bank as its not sell able and means nothing to them. Its worth an assload of money to CIG though.

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>>381817674
What if i backed 60$ on this and that i'm not a ledditor?

>>381817643
not that guy but dont you think if CIG was in financial trouble they wouldn't just do some sort of financial crisis sale where everything costs 8 times as much with the "cultists" buying more expensive shit to keep the company afloat?

>>381817772
It's real hard to just write off 13k on a coffee maker, no matter the size of the company.

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>>381809083
Derek Shart BTFO once again. When will he ever learn?

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>>381817778
>joins a cult
>gets called a cultist
>N-NO U

>>381817778
Calm down sweetie.

>it's a /v/ autists get together to bait the fuck out of the only fanbase more autistic than them and it works episode

>>381817778
>edited my sentence

I used an ellipsis to remove unnecessary information. The amount of coffee you consume or the type the machine produces is irrelevant. As others have said, just calm down.

>>381817914
starbucks?

>>381817914
A single chair in my company's atrium costs about that. Doesn't even sit particularly well.

I mean they do insurance, but yeah.

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>There will never be a proper X game again
>Scam Citizen will be with us in another 10 years

>>381818123
Perhaps I should've specified 'for internal use'? I honestly don't know how much a typical starbux spends on their machinery.

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>>381812178

So how many of you faggots actually donated to this shit?

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>>381809083
WHERE

IS

THE

VIDEO

GAME?

>>381817823
Doesn't make you any less retarded

>>381817814

Sure because other corporations care deeply about their clients and backers.

You want me to explain ? Chris Roberts had the mad dream that he will create a game that change the Space Sim. He made crazy promises but got a lot and success and now they're working on it and showing us weekly everything they do to give us a freaking amazing game.

So yeah, we put money in it and we hope it will become a reality. Maybe it will fail, maybe they will be tears, maybe some guys who put some hilarious amount of money in this will go on a crazy killing rampage but we have the hope it will works. What is your problem with that ? Do you want the gaming industry to not ever change ?

>>381817038
It's ok, after the bank takes the studio Chris can continue working on the game in Mum's house!

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>>381818639
He will.

>>381818639
Yeah or the other four studios.

>>381817820
To expand more, with corporate clients, if you think they are ok you would go clean on short term advances like this. No guarantees needed.

If you really think there is a problem, you can request receivables as guarantees so everything they make will go to ammortizing the payments first and what is left goes to the company. This is how you work with problematic corporate clients and people in general (when payments are deducted from your account automatically when you receive your salary).

When you start to request real collateral like the studio for a tax rebate, you are basically telling that you do not believe the company will survive long enough for you to get paid or you are subordinated to other creditors on the receivables flow. The bank is basically telling that they looked at the company's finances and think they won't be around when the tax rebate is going to drip in their account.

>highly regarded bank
Oh yeah. Nothing at all suspicious about taking out a loan, using all assets as collateral, with a bank that's been investigated for enabling money laundering multiple times.
>Loan for a rebate
That's an odd financial move. And wholly unnecessary, the paperwork, man hours and interest on the loan would cost more than any potential saving. And you can bet if this loan is as short term as they're implying the bank demanded a high interest rate.
Either there's something dodgy going on or they just got Payday loaned by this bank, in which case they're dumb as hell.

>>381818561
>Sure because other corporations care deeply about their clients and backers.

They don't, but what do other companies doing or not doing matter?

>to give us a freaking amazing game.

Which you still haven't played and is over two years past due.

>your problem with that

I don't understand why you feel the need to defend a faceless corporation simply because they show you pretty pictures and continue to lie to you about release dates.

Also, for future reference, if you're speaking in English and not marketese, you do not put a space before a question mark.

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>>381818561
>CHRIS ROBERTS IS CHANGING THE GAME INDUSTRY

you drew this, didn't you?

>>381818561
>I HAVE A DREAM
>except it's fucking nothing
don't worry, when this crashes and burns and you're left clutching the ashes of your money, we'll be here with memes to make you feel worse.

>>381818928

Wow... What the fuck ?

>>381819121
prob satire

>>381818940
>We will be dicks until the end

I expected nothing more...

But if it succeed, will you admit you were wrong ? I wonder.

>>381813234
FUCK YES WE GET TO KILL FLEETS OF FURRIES AND THEIR GAYSHIT FURRY OVERLORDS

>>381818928
>go to the da of that
>it's real

why am I not surprised?

How hard is it to just make Freelancer 2?

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>star shitizens always say the game is great in its current state
>never once see anyone link a video of good looking, enjoyable gameplay
>never once see anyone link webms that show fun gameplay, only see webms showing off graphics and demos from the developer walkthroughs
anyone care to explain this?

>>381818879
>Also, for future reference, if you're speaking in English and not marketese, you do not put a space before a question mark.

Seriously? Han, didn't know that. It's basic syntax in french.

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>>381812408
Every time one of these controversies happens they get a spike in pledges.

Is Derek Smart, dare I say it-- a CIG plant? I thought he was /ourguy/, /v/ros?

>>381819393
You can't get a yacht and mansion siphoning funds from freelancer 2. You have to lie bigger than that.

>>381819397
Cultists gonna cult

>>381819470
you think people throwing more money into the dumpster fire is a bad thing?

the more they spend the funnier it gets

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>>381819397

Because there isn't any. They just sit in the digital equivalent of a cardboard box and play make believe.

>>381819470
It's thanks to https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/nox/Nox#buying-options
Actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7kFNevwD_o

>>381819397
people stream it all the time, if you want to see what state the game is actually in

let's just say there's a reason no one can link a video of good looking, enjoyable gameplay

Why is this derek smart guy so obsessed over trying to make star citizen fail

I mean at this point he doesn't even care anymore if every single person on this planet thinks that he is a bipolar lier

What happened? What could've possible caused this class A platinum autism

did robert fuck his daughter or something like that?

>>381811027
It would be hilarious? How could million of NEETbucks' worth of imaginary pixelships going up in vapor not be hilarious?

>>381819397
>anime plebs
>care to explain this
No.

>>381819397

Well, people saying it's good as it's actually is are clearly in denial but the game footages shown by the devs looks pretty good and playble.

So in the end, there will be somthing at least.

>>381819827
>>381819827
i mean people stream obscure shit games all the time so saying "people stream this game" doesn't really signify much. if i was seeing awesome streamer moments being posted then maybe that would mean something.

>>381819949
That's just mean.

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>>381820129

>>381819925
yes every time someone expresses doubt about star citizen, it's just derek again

better ignore all the red flags so he doesn't succeed in his sick crusade to destroy your dreams

>>381820230

As I said, just mean.

If you're not able to hope the best for the gaming community, what are you even doing here ?

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>>381819397
100% of the Star Citizen threads are just shitposting because for some reason retards who know literally nothing about the game always feel the need to come into the threads anyway.

At least, that's why I never post in these. Right now I'm just extremely bored.

>>381809083
Getting cash on hand now based on expected tax rebates in the future does make sense financially. However, getting a collateralized loan to raise more capital to fund the project that desperately needs more cash could also be a reasonable explanation. The best way to figure out which is which, is by figuring out the actual size of the loan? Does anyone know this?

>>381820452
Laughing at people who hope for the best and are inevitably disappointed.

>>381820525
well the tax credit they're talking about was around five million last year, so it shouldn't be too different this year

kind of small compared to what they put up as collateral, but i'm sure this is good for star citizen

>Scotland votes against independence from UK
>UK leaves EU
>Scam Citizen crashes UK with no survivors
Must be shite being Scottish.

in the time this game has been in development, space games have seen a renaissance. Thanks to everyone who threw their money into the fire, you showed there were shekels in this genre, too bad in this particular care there will be no game.

>>381820545

That's a pretty borring occupation isn't it?

>>381811826
Combination of those

>>381820732
If they get like a five or ten, maybe even fifteen million loan it probably isn't that bad, but anymore I would be worried, because that pushes out the time horizon too far from what their alleged explanation for the loan could reasonably cover.

>>381820829
even if there is eventually a game, it's going to come out after dozens of other space sims have killed the genre again

>>381820836
>occupation
nigger, the shitposts you get take like 10 seconds to make, tops

>>381821094
Nah, once EVE Online lets people walk in space stations millions will flock to that game.

Jonestown

>>381820836
yes this is all that i do online ever

and it is quite a satisfying occupation, thank you for asking

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>>381820829
It was in call of duty.

>>381821272
except everyone dies of thirst waiting for the flavor-aid

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>Derek Smart is still sperging out over this game
How fucking pathetic can you be?

>>381818214
They apparently are working on a proper X4.

>>381822998
oh sweet

are there any details yet?

>>381809329
Your parents are concerned. Pretending to be retarded when you were young was maybe a bit cute but now they are really concerned that you truly are a retard.

>>381823231
Even more X than X3. By the way what is X?

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>>381823479
>what is X?
baby don't hurt me
don't hurt me
no more

>>381823231
https://www.pcinvasion.com/x4-development-x-rebirth-vr

>>381823430
says the guy who gave money to chris roberts, lol

>>381823231

Pretty much what everyone bitched about. More flyable ships. I do hope they keep what worked in Rebirth like station scale and functionality and capital ships with targetable points.

>>381824517
sweet reddit meme, bro

you just owned all the haters for good, they'll never talk shit about star citizen again

>>381824240
It a shame they never got the first person style to work. I actually really liked that but it was executed horribly. I want to play a guy, not a ship but now they'll never go back to it again.

>>381809083
Threads about scam citizen are the gift that keeps on giving.
I hope this game remains forever in this limbo so we can witness the ultimate screeching battle between autists. Forever

>>381825971
same

>>381825971
Because autists are so much fun

Reminder that you literally cannot criticize this game on /v/ because a gay furry clan/mafia exists here and spends hours of their day in these threads voraciously defending it.

>>381826620

What's the link between SC and hentai ?

So, best estimates when will the game release?
No meme answers pls.

>>381826794
hahahahahahaha

>>381826794

We have no clue actually. 3.0 will (maybe) be realed in early August. After that, you can count for at least 2-3 years more.

>>381826794
5 years if we want to be optimists. Which means 5 years of memes please lord let this be

>>381826794

Singleplayer end of next year. If that's gud, MMO in a few years. If it's bad, ded.

>>381809083
Wait, why does this surprise people? Chris Roberts intentionally built his studios in Countries and American States that provide tax benefits to game development studios. Did you assholes miss the part where he spent our money building an international game development corporation?

>>381829176
maybe he should have spent that money making a game

>>381826794
I've been following Star Citizen for a long time now. I'm $1,000 deep in it and I don't regret it. I'll be honest with you: Even trying to answer that question is stupid.

This game's development has been a pitched battle of trying to turn raw cash flow into a triple A game studio and quality game while simultaneously attempting to force CryEngine to do what they want it to do. This has manifested in weird as fuck ways. For example, things that we never thought would be possible in the game engine are now quite possible like the Planet Tech some german software wizard worked up. Unfortunately all of this means the development schedule is a clusterfuck and nothing is ever on time, as best case scenario the game needs time to expand based on the new tech that gets put into it.

Then, on top of that, you've got the fact that the game's actual development is iterative and a final release date is as meaningless. Actual release will be a quiet footnote and legal technicality when it arrives, especially since Squadron 42 and Star Citizen are now considered separate titles.

>>381829382
>he should have spent that money making a game
>with no staff or capital goods
Anon are you retarded? You do understand that producing a game requires a development studio yes?

>>381829382
...wow. Just wow. This is some high level of stupidity here.

"Hey guys, give me money, I will make a great game!
- Okay, here, take that, it's my money.
- Great, I will buy a computer with it and...
- WHAT? BUY A COMPUTER? YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A GAME!"

>>381829731
THANK. YOU.

>>381830116
>>381829884
lol whatever

five years and $150 million and you have a pile of wet shit to play with. keep on donating, morons

>>381829884
He is retarded, yes.

>>381830409
The thing you missing is that it's not what we can play with that matters, it what we will be able to play with when this will be finished.

Yeah it takes time, way more than we would have prefer, but could you prople stop acting like 12yo the night before christmas ? We're talking about a game where you could go from space to a mining station on a planet without a loading screen. It recquires new way of programing. They're working really hard on it and you're just here complaining how much of a scam it is because you don't have a clue how economy works (neither do I, I'll admit it).

If you don't want to spend money on a game that isn't ready, fine. It's a safer choice after all, but don't bash their work.

>>381830956
>it what we will be able to play with when this will be finished
ahhahahahahahahahaha

1. Take out a loan on your "IP's valuation"
2. Pay out "investors" and "shareholders" (read: CR, Ortwin, Elms bros, etc) with loan money
3. Default on the loan, dumping the shit sack of steaming nothingness that is Star Citizen on a bank
4. Peace right the fuck out.

I mean, it's genius really. And not even close to the kind of fraud that bankers got away with in the 2008 financial crisis.

Shitizens will blame the bank for robbing their dreams, while you scoot out to Cabo with the money. As long as they're not technically breaking laws they're untouchable.

>>381831395

But that would mean that it was a scam all along and that the plan was to ask money for a game and run away with it.

Could anyone be dumb enough to believe this ?

>>381818928

>by Protection

The same Protection that mains Androxous in Paladins? Please no.

>>381831395
>1. Take out a loan on your "IP's valuation"

You stupid retarded idiot, did you even read the thing?

" The UK Government rebate entitlement, which is audited and certified by our outside auditors on a quarterly basis, is the prime collateral."

They took out a loan on the rebate, Star Citizen isn't being used as collateral.

>>381809083
>Video game
>Tax
Yeah right, nothing fishy here, definitively no scam involved.

>>381832841
You realize that's why there's so many tech companies in California right? They receive tax benefits. Canada, Germany, the UK, etc. all do shit like that. They do it to attract expertise and create jobs.

>>381830956
sorry, but as an excuse, "they just need more time and money" gets kind of stale after a few years

>We're talking about a game where you could go from space to a mining station on a planet without a loading screen.
what, like elite dangerous?

>>381832841
>things
>money

My complotist sense is tingling

>>381833109
Nevada is giving Tesla $1.3 Billion over the next ten years to build the factory in Nevada. So, yeah it's nothing new.

>>381833237

Ahah. You could have been even more sarcastic and said "Like in spore ?"

>>381833791
or like in frontier, evochron, and no man's sky

looks like their groundbreaking tech hasn't really broken any ground

>>381834128

but those are on dead planets. Here we're talking about places full of players and NPCs interacting together.

Is this Damage Control? After $150 million, why do they still need more money? How much more money do they actually need, when does it end

>>381835974
No it is a we don't want to convert money from USD/EUR to GBP as the conversion fees are higher than bank loan interest rates so let us get a loan at a low interest rate and put up the government rebate we are going to get as collateral and get money right away.

>>381836297
Alright, I was a little worried about the 20k I put in

>>381836592
GBP currency is fluctuating quite a bit. They have no idea if it's going to go up or down one month to the next.

Foundry 42 the studio with the most employees operates in the UK because of the 25% tax rebate the UK government offers to game dev companies to operate there. This leaves them having to convert USD and EUR where the majority of the backers live to GBP to pay the bills there.

Because of GBP fluctuations and conversion fees, they decided to get a loan as the interest rate was cheaper than conversion fees they normally pay. When they get their rebate they pay that back to the bank.