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How do you feel about Sony leaving the handheld market?

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How do you feel about Sony leaving the handheld market?
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>>381801661
I thought the vita was great but I think the Switch will fill the void since I mostly played it at home and played indies.
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>>381801661
releaved
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It sucks PSP was the best handheld ever
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the ridiculous memory cards and the lack of any games except anime trash killed it
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>>381801661
source?
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Are they abandoning the Japanese market then? Japs don't buy home consoles.
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>>381802116
That's what you think!
Japs will SURELY buy a PS4 for Monster Hunter World
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>>381801661
Sony did fuck all with the PSP. They don't deserve to be in the market.

They just sit back and road its success by relaying on 3rd parties/MH to drive sales.

They thought that'd be the case again with the Vita but it backfired on their ass big time.
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>>381801661
Disappointed. Honestly what went wrong with the vita? Considering the PSP was pretty damn successful, I was excited for the vitas release only to be let down years later.
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Sony will release a portable ps4 that has built in LTE, can make calls/receive texts, works with any ps4 game the user owns.
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I LOVE MY VITAS
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Great. Now I don't have to put up with seeing cool looking weeb games, getting excited, and then seeing that it's only on Vita. Fuck playing games on a tiny screen with shit controls.
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>>381802086
How is that PS Vita successor shaping up?
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SHUT UP VITA WILL BE SAVED! NEOGAF TOLD ME IT WOULD!
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>>381802285
Like a smartphone?
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But the Vita is getting the greatest RPG ever made! Vita is still on top I would say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cph6XMXRKzY
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>>381802443
So no source then?
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>all these poorfags that don't own a 3DS & Vita
I thought you liked video games
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>>381802446
I have a vita tv, it's great to play vanillaware games on the big screen. And no I'm not a console warrior or anything, I buy anything that has at least 2 or 3 games that interest me
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>>381801997
This so much this
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>>381802704
Vita has nothing, Gravity Rush is now on PS4, weeb games are on Steam, indie games are everywhere
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>>381802446
/v/ is exactly the same as neogaf, but with nintendo instead of sony
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>>381802086

Basic reasoning skills.
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>Sony wastes money on VR but no new handheld

Feela bad man
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>>381802704
>Vita
>Games
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>>381803429
VR is the future.....
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>>381801997
3ds
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>>381804161
Kys u under8 fag
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>>381802704
>tfw you own both
Vita is such a great weeb machine holy shit.
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>>381801661
I wish they'd leave the gaming market as a whole.
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>>381804676
You shouldn't, the less competitors, the worse off for the consumer. No company is on your side.
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>>381804873
I'd rather stop being fucked by the long arm of the remaster cock.
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>>381801661
Handhelds are probably fucked period not just Sony's. All we will get anymore are these hybrid abominations from Nintendo. 3ds/Vita will probably be my last handhelds.
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>>381801661
Considering the Swtich's success Sony might consider making a similar hybrid-style device.
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>>381801661
Good riddance. Modern day Sony is retarded and doesn't know how to promote and support its products.
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>>381805068
>might consider
It's gonna happen. Sony cannot hold themselves back from cloning other, better products.
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Indifferent but a little bit glad because I didn't really care for the psp or vita and im glad because now Nintendo has complete control over tge handheld market for better or worse
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>>381801997
This.
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>>381804984

So long as todd is alive you'll never not be fucked by the remaster cock
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>>381805582
Thank you Todette.
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>>381801661
Bit sad since competition is always better than just giving one company all the power. Loved my PSP and Vita.
I do think it's nice that they turned it around from the PSP had piracy so bad it made localizations crawl to a snails pace, but the Vita got so much obscure and niche games localized for it that we never would have thought would come over in a million years. Its legacy will be it subsidized the weeb game market on Steam and PS4.
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>>381805068
This is what I was thinking
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>>381805582
I didn't buy the remaster, Toddette.
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>>381801661
Its for the best. Sony clearly stopped caring years ago.

the Vita was some nice hardware but Sony was shit at pushing it and constantly undercut reasons to get it (expensive memory cards, advertised as a PS3 accessory, kept releasing its exclusive games on PS3/PS4, Playstation TV).

shouldn't have even bothered making it.
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>>381805068
They have a patent out for this from back in 2015 so I don't think it's out of the question.

https://gamerant.com/sony-nintendo-switch-patent/
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>>381803193
>Everytime someone talks about the Vita's failure, someone brings up the Wii U
I wonder why its never compared to the 3DS, but we all know why
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>MUH EMULATORS that can play SNES games with speed/graphics hacks at 50fps

Why do people like the PSP again?
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>>381806331

Hey dont push around my sister her remaster is top tier
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>>381807389
The only SNES games that have issues are ones like starfox that had extra hardware in the cart.
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>>381801661
Shitty.

I love the PSP and Vita. I just wish it had 1st party support.
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>>381807560
That's complete bullshit and you know it. Even fucking Super Metroid has issues running on the PSP. It was a great portable emulator back in 2007, but you can get a fucking PSP shaped Android device for $50 that will run longer with a better screen and less emulation glitches.
The PSP is outdated.
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>>381807759
Super metroid ran fine for me, or am I just not autistic enough to notice minor problems?
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>>381807540
Why didn't you save the PSP Todd?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrWtz7M_OHc
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>>381807914
>Fog glitches
>Slow downs
>Having to either rescale the screen (make everything blurry) or crop it (cut off part of the screen) to make it fit on the 480x272 PSP resolution
>Audio glitches

I haven't done much with a PSP since 2013 or so, but given the hardware limitations I really doubt it's much better now.
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>>381806525
Looks more like a tablet attachment than a stand alone device. Or at least that how I see it.
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>>381802443
Where's the 3DS successor?
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>>381802384
>cool looking weeb games
>Neptunia
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>>381801661

a damn shame, I really liked my PSP
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>>381801997
honestly Sony should just keep pumping out cheap PSP consoles for poorer markets and people who actually want to play fun games
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>>381802649

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-06-sony-downplays-dream-of-playstation-vita-successor
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>>381808048
It does, but they specifically point out things like the charging port and headphone jack and that'd be a weird spot for those on a regular tablet.
That said, this is likely one of those patents they make just in case, not something they definitely plan to do.
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>>381801661
Sad, because I'll finally have to buy a PS4 for all the games and franchises that were on Vita and I don't want that shit, Switch has no games and won't get anything more than the same tired, rehashed franchises for little kids and normalfags, so it's not even an option.
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>>381807560
I bet you also think nothing is wrong with ZSnes and N64 emulation is perfectly fine.

Just because an emulator run a handful mainstream games doesn't mean it's good.
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>>381808597
Not even him but pic related.
GTFO
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>>381801661
F

Paying my respects. I loved my psp slim. I still boot it up every now and then to play vice city. Never owned a vita but it felt good in the hand and came packed with technology.
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>>381808734
>bait images
>2017

Reddit is that way.
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What's the range on remote play for vita?
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>>381801661
Ambivalent. I didn't care much for the PSP itself but it had some great games and CFW really expanded its functionality, and I very much wanted to like the Vita but it was overpriced and the games just didn't really do a lot for me.


>>381802704
I have a 3DSXL and a VitaTV, which was well worth the $40 even if it basically ended up being a dedicated ToukidenKiwami and Tittyninjas box.


>>381805031
>handheld with video out
>hybrid abomination

Nigger the Switch is basically just a modern PSP with full controls and a fancier video cable. Which is great, really, both from the relative power and HDMI-instead-of-component-cable aspects. Shame they overpriced it by about $50 just like the WiiU before it.
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>>381808965
>Trying this hard to avoid looking like a newfag
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>>381801661
>How do you feel about Sony leaving the handheld market?
They were never in it. The PSP and Vita were both dog shit with not a single decent game between them. The PS1 is the only good thing Sony has ever produced.
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>>381801661
>Sony will die in your lifetime

We did it bros
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>>381808853
Vita is great because there's some really neat niche stuff on it, not as much as the PSP but it has a really good library if you're the kind of guy who likes more experimental games, the hardware itself is great and being able to play PSP and PSX games on the go without even needing hacks is great, shame Sony is completely retarded and couldn't make it flourish like the PSP, between the home console and handheld market they chose home consoles, we'll see how that plays out, maybe focusing on one console will be the return of the PS2, but I doubt it, times have changed.
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>>381809278
Wii U was already being sold at a loss. Switch would be, too, if they dropped the price by $50. The price is really low for how much they cost to make.
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Sony cucked the Vita by making it use propitiatory memory cards. It's a shame really since it's a really great console.
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>>381807120
>Everytime someone talks about the WiiU's failure, someone brings up the Vita
I wonder why its never compared to the PS4, but we all know why
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>>381810010
wiiu wasn't sold at a loss dummy
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>>381808067
It's called the Switch, bitch.
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>>381810584
It really was. Nintendo lost 36.4 billion yen selling them.
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>>381802704
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It's a damn shame, the Vita and PSP were both great systems. At least most of the games that they were getting seem to be migrating to Switch.

Oh yeah I LOVE MY VITAS.
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>>381801661
Sucks because I use Vita more then my 3ds, Sony is just in a state of cockiness, and just being corporate dumbass that only thing saving it is PS4. A Vita 2 would be nice but I highly doubtful it'll happen since Sony can't do anything right for consumers. Especially since the PSP was so successful, and ALL they need to do is just let people use off brand sd cards, for the mobile Stuff let them choose what provider they want instead of just At&t, keep the OLED screen, and have a good battery life , and they'll hit the gold mine
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Happy but only if the Vita's traditional library finds its way onto the Switch.

There needs to be at least one high tier handheld out there for those who want to play games on the go.
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>>381811458
the only reason I haven't bought a vita is because I can run CFW on my psp with 128gb of memory so I can keep 80+ games plus emulators plus the entire season of my favorite anime.
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>>381811095
Which one do you normally use of the two vita's and why?
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How is the cfw -scene on vita?

Should I bother buying one at this point to use as a handheld emulator?
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>>381801661
vita means life
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>>381812269
good, if you didn't update

bad if you did update
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>>381801661
I think it's a terrible idea. The PSP and Vita were the greatest, and second greatest, handhelds ever made.
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>>381812234
Usually the OG 1k, but that's because I've got a massive backlog of shit on it. I think I might own more Vita games than games for any other system, it's got to be over 100 games at this point.

2k is my homebrew/JP PSN system. I mostly use it when I want to play Touhou songs in Taiko V.
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>>381801661
I'm pissed. The PSP was the best console ever and the Vita had potential to top that. PS2 classics support would have made it a godtier handheld.
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>>381801661
Mobile is the way of the future for mobile gaming, It's smart in the long run
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>3DS has a library comparable to the PS2
>but its weak as fuck and everything is 240p
why
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>>381801661

I dunno but this reminded me that I bought a PS Vita and it's sitting in a case somewhere unused for over a year.

I should probably check the used/clearance scene to see if I can find any good games like when the PSP finally passed away.
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>>381812269
Yes but before the 3.60, if it is then I'm not sure if you can reduce it back several updates, but over time people will find a way to get free games, and emulate on the current update
>>381812460
This
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>>381802232
You mean they did fuck all with the vita
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>>381812636
>Mobile is the way of the future for mobile gaming
haha, no

the switch is the future

hopefully sony releases a portable ps4
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>>381801661
totally fine with it, theyll keep halfass supporting the vita i get to play the copious amounts of games i own for it

and very rarely when something good comes for 3ds i can jump over no problem
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>>381801997
Hacked Vita is better
>can do everything a hacked PSP can do
>plus can play free Vita games
>plus superior emulation capabilities
The only thing worse is the memory cards, since there isn't a microSD adapter yet.
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>>381812687
if you care about pixels so much, play on your pc
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>>381813336
But you can't PC game on the go
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>>381802704
>I thought you liked video games
How the hell would you get this impression on /v/.
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>>381812874
Just a warning vita games are much much more expensive than psp games due to not nearly as many being produced and no "greatest hits" type reprints. Vita is also not really dead yet don't believe the memes, its got as many games on pre-order as the 3ds.
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>>381801661
Still a great emulation machine until the switch gets good homebrew somewhere a decade later.
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>>381813321
How's snes emulation? Thinking of hacking my Vita.
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>>381812687
>3DS has a library comparable to the PS2
Haha, no.
t. Owner of a hacked 3DS
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>>381813321
Only up to 3.60 cfw senpai. Everything released after it won't work.
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>>381813170
Pretty much. At least the PSP had its own GTA games (which put it on the map) and GoW games.

The Vita is merely just an anime machine. Lucky, for the Vita, that's what I like
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>>381813321
>The only thing worse is the memory cards, since there isn't a microSD adapter yet.

wouldn't this work ?
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Elite-X-64GB-microSDXC-Adapter/dp/B01G26R652
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>>381801661
A little sad and empty. The vita is my most played platform ever and I bought over 40 games for it, much more than I have for any other system aside from the 3DS, which I have 28 games for. This last generation of handhelds is probably the most fun I've had with video games.
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>>381813792
Vita has proprietary memory based off of the long dead M2 card standard. Sony also has another storage standard they can use for the mythical "Vita 2"
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>>381813664
Can't you uninstall updates?
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>>381813792
No. There is a micro SD adapter now though. You need a 3g fat vita for it to work. It replaces the 3g thingy with a board that holds a micro SD
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>>381814197
No. Even if you factory reset it it stays on the current firmware.
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>>381813536
Good. It's Retroarch, so I just use the SNES9X core.
>>381813664
Good thing most of the worthwhile games on Vita are pre-3.60. And even some games (like Caligula) have English patches for the pre-3.60 Japanese version.
>>381813792
No, the Vita uses overpriced proprietary memory cards, not standard microSD cards. The PSP was great because despite also using overpriced proprietary memory cards, there were unofficial adapters that allowed you to use microSD cards, saving you money while also allowing you more storage space
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>>381814380
>Retroarch
Into the trash it goes.
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>>381814380
How's the frame rate on the more graphics heavy snes games? 10/10?
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>>381814490
Without memeing, explain why it's bad.
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>>381813645
>Ever Oasis
>7th Dragon III: Code VFD
>Etrian Odyssey IV
>Etrian Odyssey V
>Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Milennium Girl
>Etrian Odyssey Untold 2: The Fafnir Knight
>Etrian Mystery Dungeon
>Persona Q
>Shin Megami Tensei IV
>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
>Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey Redux
>Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
>Devil Survivor Overclocked
>Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker
>Fire Emblem Awakening
>Fire Emblem Fates
>Fire Emblem Echoes
>Pokemon X/Y
>Pokemon OR/AS
>Pokemon Sun/Moon
>Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity
>Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon
>Final Fantasy Explorers
>The Legend of Legacy
>Bravely Default
>Bravely Second
>Fantasy Life
>Rune Factory 4
>Story of Seasons
>Monster Hunter IV Ultimate
>Monster Hunter Generations
>Monster Hunter Stories
>The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
>The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
>The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
>Star Fox 64 3D
>Xenoblade Chronicles 3D
>Tales of the Abyss
>Stella Glow
>Dragon Quest VII
>Dragon Quest VIII
>Project x Zone
>Project x Zone 2
>Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright
>Phoenix Wright: Spirit of Justice
>Phoenix Wright: Dual Destinies
>Hey Pikmin
>Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology
>Metroid: Samus Returns
>Culdcept Revolt
>Hyrule Warriors Legends
>Alliance Alive
I'm probably forgetting a shitload of titles too
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>>381814648
The Vita support sucks.
Also what's the point of a frontend anyway? Just make the cores available as standalone emulators.
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>>381801997
W R O N G
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Can i buy a regular PSVita and hack it still?
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I hope the next don't handheld is somewhat similar to the switch (the vita is also pretty similar to the wii u gamepad ala remote play) . Having the ability to go from couch gaming to car gaming with the simple press of a button is so goddamn awesome.
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>>381814808
Good library but still not PS2 tier.
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>>381814808
>5 EOs
>2 versions of SMT 4
>Port of SMT :SJ
>3 versions of Devil Summoner
>3 FEs
>10 pokemons
>2 zelda ports
>2 dq ports
>starfox port
>xenoblade port
>hyrule warriors port that barely works

really rivals the ps2
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>>381814808

Life isn't just about RPGs my friend try playing some other games and call us back.
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>>381802212
But the Japs have XX for the Switch
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>>381815321
Least intelligent comment of all time.
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It's hugely disappointing. My PSP was easily my favorite console I ever owned. I wish I still had it but my ex gf back in the day bricked it by being a retard. And pic related I just bought two weeks ago and I've been having an absolute blast, I already like it more than my 3ds.

The day Sony stops having a footprint in the handheld market is a sad day for vidya.
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>>381815321
>he doesn't play exclusively JRPGs
You have a point though.
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>>381814619
I just tested Kirby Dream Land 3 (a game that had an additional co-processor chip). It has slowdown in SNES9X 2010, but seems to work at 60fps on SNES9X 2005 Plus.
>>381814808
That's nowhere near PS2-tier. Not saying it's bad, though.
>>381814939
The frontend/API is what allows the cores to be easily ported to other platforms. For example, if it wasn't for Retroarch/Libretro, Genesis Plus GX would still be Wii-exclusive. The only reason it exists on other platforms is due to being added to Retroarch
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>>381812269
N3DS is better for 2D game emulation. The low res screen perfectly suit old games.

Both (3DS and Vita) stop at N64. Look into the Nvidia Shield or GPD Win if you're interested.
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>>381801997
Wrong.
Smartphones are.
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>>381814976
Just as long as it's 3.60 firmware or below (if below, you have to update it to 3.60).
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>>381815863
>N3DS is better for 2D game emulation.
I see where you're coming from but no fucking way. The dual screens are nothing but a nuisance when emulating old games, and the dpad is absolute shit.

Meanwhile the original vita has a better screen, 20x better dpad, and is more comfy to hold because the dpad is in a reasonable position.

3ds would be a lot better if they made a model where the circle pad and dpad were switched positions, and the dpad was a bit bigger
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>>381811034
Are white Wii U's rare or something? I got mine a month after launch and I didn't realize they had stopped being sold within a year.
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>>381801661
Same way I'd feel if Nintendo left the handheld market.

Nothing.

I have two vitas actually, I had an old OLED one, then the screen died and I got a new LCD/slim one. Then recently a cousin of mine fixed the screen on the first one and so now I have two (And one memorycard).

I got a couple games for it. But then again, I got a DS with a total of two games. I never could get into handheld gaming because I always play in sessions of 4+ hours and I just can't comfortably do that with a handheld, its a neat way to pass a little free time, but I never thought of handhelds as real gaming.
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>>381811095
Jesus christ those massive tits on the girl with the pink shirt, what game? I don't even care if it's some awful indie first person dungeon crawler, i'm just gonna jerk it to the cover.
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I love my Vita!
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>>381816616
I'm assuming you meant pink backpack.
That's be Umihara Kawase, game probably isn't what you'd expect based on that cover, but still one of the best 3ds games.
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>>381816514
The white ones were the worthless 8GB model. The black ones were 32GB. The discontinued the white ones because they were pointless.

>>381816616
You mean pink backpack? It looks like Umihara Kawase.
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>>381801661
Literally makes no difference. I barely even noticed Sony was in the handheld market. No one I've ever met has even heard or seen a PSP or Vita ever. It's the Bigfoot of handhelds.
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>>381816873
>>381816895
Yeah i meant backpack, i was focusing too much on her tits.

The game looks fun, i'm digging that spiderman gameplay with madoka backgrounds.
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>>381816163
I just like how the games don't actually look like a blurry mess (due to the low res screen) and the screen 5:3 is closer to 4:3 than 16:9.
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>>381816895
I remember that distinctly but I still went with the white one since I dislike black systems.
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>>381801997
amazing handheld

no amazing titles
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>>381817047
You must be fairly young. The PSP was pretty big back in the day, at least in the US. It wasn't DS big but you saw them around.
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>>381817418
Monhun freedom unite was all you needed, the point of it was nes/ps1 emulation.

>tfw bugs bunny lost in time made the psp crash

At least i got to play pepsiman, resident evil 3 and crash bandicoot 2 on the bus.
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>>381817258
Which is 15:9 closer to? 12:9 or 16:9?
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>>381815450

Variety is the spice of life my friend and you're cabinet is empty.
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>>381817703
>>381817418
Crisis Core was pretty GOAT.
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>>381813321
and you dumbasses wonder why the systems died off.
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>>381801661
the vita was so good, but unfortunately no gaems

what a shame
>>
It's no one's fault but their own. Support your platform better next time you garbage company.
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>>381817832
Looks like it's closer to 16:9

You can check around here

http://www.calculator.net/ratio-calculator.html?
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>>381813664
tfw snagged a 3.60 oled vita with 16gb memstick for $110 last year
>feelsgoodman
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>>381813719
I still play LCS on my vita with the 2nd analog patch. There's literally not a better way to play gta on the go
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>>381818225
Yeah. Gotta admit I never bought a single PSP game. My UMD drive was never used once.
>>
While I'm glad to see a Sony product fail as a result of their own incompetence, it's a somewhat bittersweet feeling because I actually have a Vita.
>>
Let me guess, the vita final good game (DT2-2) it got doesn't work on 3.60 meaning you'd lose one of the main reason to have a vita to begin with.
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>>381815450
jrpgs suck and you suck by proxy
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I wish we could go back and time and have them fix all the vita problems before its release. . .
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>>381819040
Which ones? Personally I think they should drop the touch screen and smartphone UI.
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>>381819040
So we get rid of the bullshit memory cards and spend more than 8 dollars marketing it.

Anything else?
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>>381801661
Good.
They only gave us trash that was good only for piracy and emulation.
The systems were ok but no fucking games for fuck's sake.
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>>381819183
The UI I can deal with. I wish it was XMB like the PSP and PS3 but the skittles isn't completely awful.
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>>381801661
I can't believe I fell for the Vita meme. It just looked so nice.
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>>381819331
>not wanting a pocket piracy and emulation machine w/ weeb games
I don't even know what would make you happy anymore /v/.
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>>381816163
>N3DS is better for 2D game emulation.
>I see where you're coming from but no fucking way. The dual screens are nothing but a nuisance when emulating old games
My N3DSXL has a nice dpa
>Meanwhile the original vita has a better screen, 20x better dpad, and is more comfy to hold because the dpad is in a reasonable position.
whatever, nothing beats the OG DS with it's big fat clicky dpad.
>3ds would be a lot better if they made a model where the circle pad and dpad were switched positions, and the dpad was a bit bigger
this, so much this, fuck 3d on portables. Most of the time I'm not so immersed in a game that I give a shit if it has nice graphics or not, much less on the go. I exclusively play romhacks and retro shit on my vita and 3ds respectively. Each is good for different things.

I really do feel like neither one is comfortable without a grip.
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>implying we won't get a switch-esque playstation in a few years

It's fucking bound to happen with how successful the switch is.
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>>381802704
Vita is a nothing system

>all of its best first party titles are on PS4
>no MH at all
>3rd party is lame
>no Crash, Spyro nor MGS1 on NA PSN
>Netflix and YouTube doesn't work on Vita anymore
>shit memory cards
>ain't even worth trying to emulate old games like SNES, GBA and Genesis

I rather have a Switch since its atleast the Vita's Hardware + design with the 3DS software.

I can get rid of both after Samus Returns drops and I beat it
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>>381819385
I just got mine a couple weeks ago and I'm loving it. Is it all downhill from here?

I've got about ten good games already...
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>>381801997
How did they fall off so hard. The original PSP and DS were neck and neck.
>>
People overestimate the memory card problem. $15 aren't going to stop someone from buying a system they want and most bundles come with a free memory card anyway.

The Vita biggest problem was always having no desirable, big selling software.

The Vita has nothing in the scope of Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Animal Crossing etc
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>>381819212
Give us L2/R2 buttons, remove rear touch, and make the handheld strong enough to play actual PS2 classics and not falsely advertise the handful of ports as HD remasters.
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>>381819874
Sony decided they hated the Vita and everyone who bought one.
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>>381820146
Should we get rid of the cameras too? We already had to sacrifice Tearaway since we ditched the back touchscreen, might as well lose the cameras too.
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>swing by fucking gamestop while out shopping to grab a copy of Nioh
>used Vitas are 180 bucks
>new ones are 200
>mfw I bought a PSTV online for 50 bucks
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>>381819874
The DS sold nearly twice as much as the PSP. Not as big a gap as the 3DS and Vita, but they were hardly neck and neck.
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>>381819874
>neck and neck.
lmao
PSP was my gateway to modded systems and I'll always cherish the thousands of hours I spent with it in junior high and high school but the DS had a fucking ridiculous library and even easier piracy
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>>381820453
>PSTV
It's so "compatibility list is same fraction as price"
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>>381820453
What country are you in? In the US the refurbed/recharged Vitas are 159.
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>>381820419
The cameras are fine. The backtouch didn't serve any practical use other than being a stand-in for the L2/R2 & L3/R3 buttons that it didn't have for some asinine reason.
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Hey
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>>381820453
Did you get the one with the ps3 pad and memory card? That was a great bundle

>>381820701
You can whitelist it to play any game lol.
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>>381801997
This. They just should refine remote play a bit and add more functionality for that.
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>>381820461
From where I come it honestly felt like PSP was much more popular (this of course is thanks to piracy).
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>>381819874
>The original PSP and DS were neck and neck.
Riiiiiiiight...
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>>381801661
No competition for Nintendo means they will sit their asses and do nothing
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>>381820650
DS had an assload of shovelware though. I had one because my gf bought one for me (she thought it would be fun for us to game together) and I barely ever played it when I had three of those chink flash carts with 50 games each on them. My PSP I played multiple times a week every week.
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>>381820803
Hello old friend. Remember all the years we spent together before Amanda killed you?
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I love my PSP and its emulation capabilities (not SNES, though).
But best handhelds for me are the whole Game Boy family and DS/3DS. So many games in each of these systems it's ridiculous.
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>>381817530
I've very old. And I'm in the US. Never saw anyone with a PSP except one kid on an airplane once. I just remember the local stores cutting down the shelf space for PSP within a year and it quickly faded away.
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>>381820945
>DS had an assload of shovelware though.
every single console released since the turn of the millenium and arguably before that has had an extremely high percentage of shovelware, this is the worst argument people ever use for console wars

I spent most of my PSP hours playing RPGs(phenomenal FF machine) and Dissidia, along with a bunch of puzzle games, while on DS I felt like I played a lot more genres
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>Vita dies
>Low budget anime weeb trash dies with it

>Muh Switch
>Muh Steam
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>>381821297
I'm old too, I graduated high school the year it came out. It wasn't a kid console, it was something I saw kids in hs and college playing. Hell no less than 3 of my friends in college had one.
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>>381821345
>I spent most of my PSP hours playing RPGs(phenomenal FF machine)
The hours spent playing Breath of Fire IV and Legend of Legaia in the backroom of the vitamin store I worked in after high school...those were the days.
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>>381801997
agree PSP was too good for it's era, the multimedia and emulation options were pretty good
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>>381821345
>every single console released since the turn of the millenium

Oh child. Shovelware is nothing now compared to how it was in the 80s. Only Steam is comparable.
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>PSP had an amazing library and was the best non-Nintendo handheld of all time
>Vita somehow lost the great third party support and became a dumping ground for shovelware and ports from budget devs
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>>381821234
I will forever be astonished that there are people on this planet that spent money on a game boy micro.
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>>381822069
Don't worry I have an NES with plenty of shovelware
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>>381819874
Smartphones absolutely destroyed the handheld market. People just use those to pass time on the bus or train now instead of games.
Last gen was 80M PSPs and 150M DS. Or about 230M total.
This gen is about 60M 3DS and 12M Vitas. Or about 72M total.
The market is now 3 times smaller than just last gen. 3DS couldn't even outsell the PSP. Hell, 3DS and Vita together couldn't even outsell the PSP.
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>>381822473
Hey that's the dev that made Where in the World is Carmen San Diego.
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>>381822473
One of these days I should get around to playing Action 52.
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>>381822331
It's got the best possible screen for GBA games in their original resolution, it's the crispest GBA games can ever look, more than on SP 101.
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>>381822081
>the best non-Nintendo handheld of all time

That's not really that big of an accomplishment. The Game Gear and the Lynx didn't exactly have stellar libraries.
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>>381813321

I dunno. The fucking vita memory cards really put a damper on things. I had to pay $50 for 32gb, and a 64gb card costs more than what I paid for the vita itself.

In 3 years, a modded Switch will be the best handheld ever.
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>>381801997
lel,it had no games don't kid yourself.
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>>381822550
It's 66 million, actually. And why would it be bad for Nintendo that Sony is out? Nintendo has proven with Switch there's plenty of demand for a handheld in the market.
>Hell, 3DS and Vita together couldn't even outsell the PSP
Hurr durr let's compare lifetime sales to a product that's still selling extremely well. Fucking retard
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>>381822679
I unironically prefer the SP 101. I don't care about 3 extra pixels, fuck that postage stamp screen.
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>>381801661
I'm not sure. Vita is popular in Japan, but 3DS is more popular among kids; every fucking kid is Japan has a 3DS with Pokemon or Yo-kai Watch. To be honest, I haven't seen a person playing something that it isn't Yo-kai Watch, Pokemon or Monster Hunter on their 3DS.
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>>381822819
I still play my Game Gear. It had the best Sonic games, even Sonic Labyrinth and Sonic Pinball are fun.
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>>381823029
That's fine, I can understand how some people might not like the tiny screen, but have in mind GBA games have originally very small resolution.
I can see everything clearly on the micro screen, so I enjoy the crisper picture.
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>>381823097
>Vita is popular in Japan

Not anymore. It sell 4000 units a week now. Even the PS4 sell 3x as it these days.
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>>381823097
What the hell Vita is that in the advertisement? I didn't even know they made a matte black version.
>>
Why did the Vita fail? It looked really good to me, like it should have been a success. I never bought one, but I didn't buy a 3DS either so that doesn't mean anything.
Was it just because no gaems? Why weren't there games, though?
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>>381801661
I have only the best...
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>>381823339
For one thing, the absurdly overpriced propriety memory cards.
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>>381823327
The 2000 model.
>>381823339
No GTA in the west, no MH in the east.
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>>381823416
Of the of the bunch.
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>>381801661
It was bound to happen. Sadly, thanks to smartphones, the age of handhelds is over. Even Nintendo isn't confident they can sustain themselves in that market which is why they're gradually moving to smartphones.
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>>381823510
There was a GTA game for it in the East?
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>>381801661
PSP was great, would have been better if they got all games on PSN
Vita had loads of potential but wasted all of it just because Sony is too fucking greedy to have a fucking microSD slot
>>
>>381822331
I've been wanting to get one for awhile. I'm interested in the super-portability. My SP works just fine, but with a micro I could have the ultimate portable experience.
>>
>>381823339
Too expensive in the era of mobile games. Nintendo knows you have to keep handheld prices low because a lot of these units will be purchased by parents for their kids. Sony wanted to make a "premium" handheld that would be expensive status symbol like an iPhone. That doesn't work.
>>
>>381801661
real bad, fucking normie phones man... over my dead body will I ever get one of those demonic tools of satan
>>
>>381823649
What I'm trying to say is that GTA is very popular in western countries, and Monster Hunter is popular in Japan. PSP has both things, but Vita doesn't have none of those games.
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>>381823510
I have a 2000 model though and it's glossy black, and I thought all of Japan's were too. Is it a special edition?
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>>381818225
It's even easier on 3ds so your logic is bad.
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>>381823894
Gotcha. You're right though, one of the reasons I got a PSP was Liberty City Stories.
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>>381818760
They have second analog patches for psp games?
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>>381822943
PSP is actually 82M and DS 154M too but that's not really important.
All I'm saying is the handheld market now isn't anything like it was just 7 years ago. It's good the Switch is selling, but they'll never get to the place they were at last gen. I'd be surprised if they got their numbers up in the 3DS + Vita numbers actually.
3DS is not still selling very well either. It and Vita are on the very tail end of their lives. It'll be a miracle if they even get the 3DS up to 72M total, which is still under PSP numbers from last gen.
>>
>>381824186
according to nintendo's financial report they only expect to sell about 6 million more 3DSes this fiscal year so you're about right, i don't see its lifetime sales going above 72-75mil
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>>381808047
>>381807759
>>381807389
There's a custom build of an certain SNES emulator on the PSP that actually works, but it's hard to find sadly. The only games I found that didn't work well on it were Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean (granted, those are understandably hard to emulate in general), and games that make heavy use of Mode 7. Hell, even Super Mario RPG with it's fucking SA-1 chip works perfectly save for a very minor FPS drop here and there. I'll dig it out of my PSP's memory card and post a download link if enough people care.
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>>381817703
>1 PSP game was all you needed, and you could use it to play games from other consoles

This doesn't help the PSP's point at all.
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>>381824661
I'm getting a 3001 delivered next week. Post it.
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>>381801997
>tfw you have probably a hundred PSX classics installed

If it only had another stick and two more bumpers.
>>
>>381824847
>implying this isn't what PCocks brag about and play the most
>>
>>381821297
My high school was 6:4 DS to PSP, but it means there's a lot of both.
>>
Great. Handhelds are shit. No reason to waste time or money on that crap.
>>
>>381822679
How can anyone play on such a small screen? Do you enjoy straining your eyes to see the game?
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>>381825246
>he says as he spends absurd amounts of money on consoles with no games or at Steam sales on shovelware and games he'll never play
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>>381825253
Have you tried one IRL? It's not as it seems. Yeah I can see everything clearly without straining my eyes.
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I want to get married with my PSP.
>>
Indie games get a lot of shit, but games like Binding of Isaac and hotline miami are comfy as fuck on vita. Its basically an indie game machine for me
>>
>>381825063

Done.
You might need to change a setting or two for each game, but this works somewhat well.

https://mega.nz/#!70tEkTgR!TMjiVbyYEHnUD-6b_U80ubDZBWRsbOeBlfhd8L8GoEU
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>>381825663
I'm not begrudging you spending your money on handhelds. I am saying no reason for Sony to waste time or money on something a large portion of their fans have no interest in. Let smart phones and Nintendo corner the handheld gaming market.
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>>381826408
Thank you.
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>>381816163
>the dpad is absolute shit
sounds like you've never held one
i use mine for all manner of 8bit and 16bit emulation and everything looks and plays much better than what you're getting on other systems
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>>381820945
>DS had an assload of shovelware though.
So did the PS2 and SNES and any other extremely popular console that had an amazing library.
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>>381801661
I feel like Sony should make a deal with Nintendo and corner both markets. The Switch is the next step toward Nintendo absolutely owning the handheld/mobile market, and the PS4 has dominated this generation otherwise. Why not approach Nintendo with the possibility of a partnership?

Sony will produce exclusive titles for the Switch as long as it is marketed as a mobile device (the new gameboy) and Nintendo will produce Nintendo console titles for the Playstation.
>>
>>381828506
no competition = bad for consumers, so I'm not sure why you'd want that
>>
How well emulated is PSP on phones now? I have a pretty cool bluetooth control pad
>>
Pretty bad.

Honestly, I loved the Vita. It didn't have a lot of good exclusives but the ability to play games I bought on PS4 on the go was cool. I can't tell you how many games of the binding of issac I played when I was away from home.
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>>381813321
Only this years they could enable ps1 emulation and other stuff
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PSP was definitely one of the top 3 portables of all time.

Vita shoulda honestly just been a Psp go with a modern smartphone look. Sony tries too hard to go "mini console in the palm of your hand" and it just comes off as gimped and the console is too fucking big.

I hope sony gives it one more shot because this gen of handhelds is honestly the worst. I remember having shit tons of DS games to play but the 3ds is just so trash
>>
>>381827583
I'm literally playing pokemon HG on it right now though
>>
I'm not happy about it as I love my PSP and Vita but they borked the Vita so I understand.

I enjoyed my PSP more then my DS, and my Vita more then my 3DS

I'll still use my Vita quite a bit for the foreseeable future.
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>>381829408
They had a PSP Go style prototype but it had overheating issues, so they instead opted for the design we got since it spread out the parts and handled heat better.
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>>381801661
sad

i had the original psp back in 2006 or near that
time

many fond memories of dynasty warriors, gta, metal gear acid and monster hunter

plus the design and two thumbsticks is a plus for me
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>>381801661
Sony has already confirmed a new handheld with micro SD support and a $199 launch price
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>>381831149
Source?
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>>381831606
Google it
>>
Sad, the PSP was ahead of its time and handhelds are much better than modern home consoles, smartphone gaming is also Tiger Handheld-tier.
All sony had to do was giving a shit about it on the western side and not going full overkike on memory sticks, and Nintendo is plotting to abandon handhelds too with the switch and mobile games.
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